1968 Chevrolet Biscayne Factory Drag Car 427
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- 1968 Chevy Biscayne Factory Drag Car, originally equipped with a 427ci engine, 4 speed, and 4.88 posi.
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I test drove a slightly used '67 425 horse 427 Corvette around the block once. Never has a car frightened me so much. Raw HP! Left that used car dealership and drove to the nearest Chevy dealer where I traded my '67 SS 396 Malibu for a factory fresh 300 horse '69 Camaro convertible Indy pace car replica. Except for the memories, my youth was misspent.
I would never trade a 67 chevelle SS 396 for camaro!
Terry Bruce: not really. The 67 corvette has raw to the bone hp with an old suspension and steering system. New vettes are setup to handle the hp and have safety mechanisms in place to keep you safe. You had to drive an old vette. The computer systems in the new vette drives you....
A friend had a 427/435 Vette for about six months before selling it for the same reason. I rode in it once and never again as it was like riding in a car on ice. I raced a 409 and an 11 second D/MP and felt safer in both of them…
I remember going on the Chevy lot and sitting in a new 1969 4 speed 427. It was hallowed ground
I went to the local Bakery and didnt really notice an old caprice until I saw that 427 emblem on the front fender. It was in original condition and was owned by a 70 year old lady that had it since it was new
When I was kid, back in the early 70's, a neighbor down the street had a '69 Biscayne with the 427, 4 speed. It was forest green and looked like grandma's grocery-getter. He suckered a lot guys (with their Camaros, Mustangs, 'cudas, etc.) with it. The only time I remember him getting beat was by a girl in a '69 Torino with the 429 Cobra Jet.
They actually built quite a few 427 Biscaynes for law enforcement use, I'm assuming with the 390 HP hydraulic lifter engine. Due to the 427's popularity and limited availability, the police interceptors ended up being a cheap source for racing engine builds so few if any remain today.
I agree. I'll bet a lot of them were ordered with the 335 horse 427 too along with the 390 horse version in some highway patrol cars. I highly doubt any law enforcement agencies ordered any L72 cars because they were way too high maintenance for fleet use. They needed a valve adjustment every few thousand miles because of their solid lifter valvetrain so they really weren't practical at all for how much police cars were driven. Many of them were probably were driven 1,000 miles a week
My Mother had a 1969 Impala convertible with a 390 horse 427.
Great car, bad tire mileage...........lol
That would be a great car. I actually like the 390hp version more because of the hydraulic lifters.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles but measuring and adjusting 16 tappets every 5000 miles is so.. Zen. Makes one feel part of the machine.
True, but I can't get my wife to do it.
I bet especially when you got to drive it.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Some women have no sense of humor, why is that? lol
The good old days ..when you could go down and buy a factory Drag Racer !
I'm a Mopar guy and I love the 61 Impala SS409 and 62 Bel Air 409/409 but the 66 and 68-69 L72 Biscayne's are my favorite BowTie's of the muscle car era. Not sure why the L72 wasnt offered in 67 but it wasn't for whatever reason. I love tire shredding monsters like this car that are disguised as your grandparent's Chevy. The only giveaway is the little 427 badges above the marker lights on the front fenders. Those big Biscayne's with the L72 and the right rear axle ratio were quicker than an L78 396/375 Camaro SS or Chevelle SS in the 1/4 mile and probably cheaper to buy also as long as you kept the options to a minimum...which pretty much all street/drag racers did back then to keep the weight and the price down. And for a full size car they are not nearly as heavy as most people think they are. Some of the coolest sleepers of all time were the 60s era Biscayne's with the solid lifter 409's(1962-65), L78 396/425(1965 only), and the L72 427/425( 1966 and 68-69)
Cool car. Back in the early 80's my Mom drove me around SF in a 1968 "Super Sport 427" (looks like a Caprice) which is still in the family.
Steel chrome-plated bumpers - so beautiful. I miss them.
My grandfather (RIP) was probably the head of the chrome shop at Chevrolet in Flint, Mi. when those bumpers were chromed!
gotta say i too miss cool bumbers. born 1951. 57 buick special front bumper. to die for.
My Mom had a sixty nine with the 427 in it and a four speed stick in it. I had access to it and drove it to HS quite often... she had a never ending problem with, those darned rear tires were ALWAYS wearing out! Dad blamed it on a bad suspension; I was able to deflected all the blame... we decided it was... Him!... not me, of course!
Wow. I don't think many high schoolers today would survive driving that car. It took a lot of skill to keep it out of the ditch when you put the pedal down.
i Had a 67' 2 door Chevy Impala 327ci Very Nice car it had 32,000 miles on it when i got it in 1972......
Good no-nonsense video and commentary about a great, historical car. Nice job. Thanks for showing us this time capsule.
I lived about 4 miles from Woodward ave in Madison heights h Michigan I was a firefighter in Royal oak pretty tough duty during the dream cruise for about 14 years. Every any anything you ever wanted to see .
neck snappin torque unlimited power. to blowaway the comp. all that wile sitting on a couch. how sweet it was.thank you,
Very cool!! Love full size Chevys but own a GTO. Thank you for sharing this gem!!
427 with .488 gears. Holy Launch Control Batman!
4.88 (4.88:1)
Yup, Lou is correct. That means the driveshaft spins 4.88 times for every one time the rear wheels go around.
Traction control right foot anti-lock brakes left foot
Lester Suggs,
Or it could have been said, "Holy Whiplash, Batman"! He, he, he.
He ran a better ET staying in 3rd with the taller rear end gear and letting the engine wind out. The 3-4 shift just cost more time in the quarter mile. I think there's a possibility that the car might run better with an automatic tuned for drag racing and the 4.88 rear end gear, but I still prefer muscle cars with 3 pedals.
Very nice. I drove a 1961 Biscayne from 73-77. It too was a butternut yellow 2 door. The guy that owned previously put a 327 Vette motor in. I added a turbo 350 trans. Also Cragers. Paid 100 for it sold it for 400. I had a lot of drivin while blind times in it.
LOLOL My HS car was a 60 Impala ragtop, STILL dream of it. It too had a 327/350hp in it out of a 65 Vette. Didn't take long to spin a rod bearing and 30 bucks later I dropped a 348 in it out of a 58. Chevy parts interchangeability was terrific for a kid with no money.
1978 a few months before my 16th birthday I bought my first car for $500 with paper route money from my cousin; it was a 1968 2 door dark gray Impala with a stock 396. Turbo 400 Auto transmission, factory A/C, AM-FM 4 speaker stereo(both of which were very rare), it was the car all us guys took on weekends, cruising and winning impromptu drag races. Even with a full load of guys, coolers, etc I could still beat the guys with souped up 350s and 327s. Only thing I ever did to it was a dual exhaust and a bore .030 over after one of the pistons let go and scarred a cyl wall. Otherwise kept it bone stock and drove it as my primary all thru college (grad in 1986). Towed a small enclosed UHaul behind it for my first USAF assignment and the car still accelerated like the loaded trailer wasn’t even there. I finally traded it in 1989 for an 84 CJ-7, mainly because I was tired of carrying around octane boost and lead additive every time I filled up.
Once back in high school I was on a double date with my buddy and the A/C compressor seized, so we cut the A/C belt off, rolled down the windows, opened the wing windows , and continued on our way. Another time a bunch of us hauled a trunk load of bean bag chairs and a full size cooler in the cavernous trunk to the midnight drive-in showing of Enter The Dragon, where in the 6 of us tossed the bean bags on the hood and roof and had a great time. The piston that caused the trouble back in the early 1980s is still on my workbench.
Cool story...had my grandpas 67 Caprice he bought new it was the cruiser all of us piled into and got in trouble with
They would sell a lot more new cars if they offered a stripped down cheap version like they used to. Too bad the big 3 are so greedy and stupid. Good video. Keep 'em coming!
People wouldn't buy cheaper versions of today's cars they want them fully equipped.
And you can't buy one minus the pollution and safety equipment. Steel door beams and bumpers covered in plastic.
Im a decade late born in 1967... should have been 1950😀😀😀
Me too. I was born in the wrong era. I wish I was a teenager in the mid 60's when the muscle car craze really took off
That car appears incredibly clean and damage free, not only for a mostly original car, but especially for one that was probably not babied on the strip exactly.
Many of these were built at the Lordstown, Ohio plant, now closed. This one was built in Janesville, WI
I am a MoPar and Pontiac man. However I love all American muscle from back in the day. As kid in Chicago the guy across the street. Had a 65 409 Biscayne. Another guy in the area had a 65 SS 396 he called Raid. From the Raid bug commercials in the 60's. Good no drama, no nonsense video. Others learn free from this.
Motion Performance sold these back in the day ,,called them street racer spl.
GREG, i really love your channel. you have such amazing in-depth knowledge. will you PLEASE PLEASE do a extensive look at the pby cat, black cat etc.
Thanks, I would like the cover the PBY, but that will be later.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles thank you for responding to my comment. i would be sooo stoked if you did cover the pby in the future. i know with videos as in depth and technical as your videos are it can probably take a while to gather all the material/info. on youtube there is only a couple decent pby docs. and i have watched them WAY TOO MANY TIMES...really looking forward to a new one. thanks again for all your effort and knowledge on the channel.
I do need to cover the PBY because it's a very important and almost forgotten piece of history. PBYs were at Pearl Harbor, at Midway, and performed many important missions during the war. I'm trying to get to the wreckage on Diego Garcia. If I do, I'll include that in the video.
I built a 1968 Caprice for a friend that was original 396 car with turbo 400. Purchased minus engine so I built a 454 with a few goodies and the 4200 lb car was pulling the wheels about 6" and running in the 7's in 1/8 mile. So I'm guessing around 12. s in 1/4 mile. This was running a 4200 stall convertor and 373 gears in the 12 bolt. It wasn't a high compression engine and was running a hydraulic camshaft. It was just a good combination. I could have built a lot more horsepower into it but kept it drivable. We put 275 60 Hoosier quick times on it and they did a fine job. I'll just say this big old street car surprised a lot of people that wanted to try it on. From big block big Chryslers to small block Nova's and Camaro's. Oh it wasn't bottle fed either.
So bottom line is these big old cars would roll!
According to the 'Engine RPM Calculator,' a 513 rear end ratio would have allowed 7154 RPM at the end of the 1/4 mile in 4th gear. I wonder why they didn't go with 513s? But it may have launched really well with the 456 gear, so there might not have been anything to gain from the 513. Plus your spending less time shifting.
Love those full-size Chevies! My first car was a '68 BelAir 4-door with a tired 307.Not a screamer by any means but I loved that car...
Launch control was your Brain.
Yes, and it took some serious effort. That's a skill that's just lost today.
I knew a girl in 1970/71 who dated a guy that had a 1968 ss427 chevelle I always wondered if it was original. Back then people around here weren’t into changing emblems. As they do today. Just curious! 4:17
Thank You! I am 54 and my childhood was filled with all the cars we love so much today!
Fun fun . Thank you. The Mt. plates add a lot to this. For me. 12.04 in yakama Wa . with 8" slicks first time through the lighs..In a 66 chevell .427ci. Got off the throttle and everything wanted to go side waise. This was about 76. Theery two barrles. Was fun , with breacker points. The t-10 will break 2nd gr. Munsy much better.Spun the tires getting out . but the dodeg was in my sights ,12.04 w/ breaker points ,a rear seat and sterio .
I saw a 427 Impala at the Mecum Kissimmee auction that was given to Lorne Greene by GM (sponsor of Bonanza). A few years ago I saw a '65, 396/375 Chevelle (Z 16) given to Dan Blocker. Both cars were yellow/black vinyl tops. Greg that might be muscle car to do a piece on.
I do discuss the Z16 in my Muscle car Part 2 video. I haven't talked too much about the big muscle cars, like the Impala. However, maybe I need to rethink. This 4 min video on the 427 Biscayne is outperforming nearly every video I have made. For example, it took only a few mins to make, has relatively little information and yet got more views in the first two days than my Muscle car Part 2 video has had in months, and that video took a long time to make. I'm really not sure what to make of this.
When you added a factory 8-track player in 1968 they gave you a demo cartridge. One of the songs.
"Ringo" by Loren Green.
Oh that's funny, I didn't know that. Thanks,.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles hey greg,then you should do a early 60s Pontiac sd 421 lightweight Catalina video,,,they dominated drag racing in the early 60s,you know,the" Swiss cheese,Catalina ",,,,how many of you youngsters know why they were called tbat?
@@tragiclife9760, probably less than 15%. But I'd say 95+% of car people born in the '50's know.
It's a real shame at the prices of these cars these days. Back in the early to late 70's you could buy these types of cars used for less than half of the new car price. Then some asshole named kelly came out with a book, then used car prices soared.
Yeah! That's excellent time in the quarter mile for a street car, even by today's standards.
1.2 seconds quicker on slicks?....OMFG....awesome.....sweet F'n Car!!!!!!
six-speed manual.....maybe 4.11's....or 3.92's....I'm thinkin' Hellcat/Challenger chaser Minimum....might even hang w/it....
cooker440 I know right?!!!
......no headers.........
I rebuilt a 68 -427 DRHT caprice triple black, very fast car,.
Amazing cars the 65-69 post cars are. Thanks for this.
Extremely interesting video, thanks for posting !!
12.2 on slicks may not sound that spectacular for (an aluminum block ??) 427...until you grasp the fact that this car's curb weight is probably around 4100 lbs 😊.
Iron block...and yeah 12.2 is smoking fast. 13s even in the 80s was considered a pretty fast st car
good old muscle car
wie bought an Chrysler Windsor in original goood condition. Do u think i should make an introduction too. it's an time capsule too.
I think you should!
I have to be honest, been Mopar most of my life...but, this is one cool ass car, when all the manufacturers had class
1968 and 9 kingswood Wagons had 427 also
Hello Greg!
I really enjoy the content you are making!
If you need help, translating anything German, I can help you.
Thanks Peter.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles No problem, I am thanking you for the great content!
Had a 427 caprice for my senior year in high school. Cool headlights.
Great channel
There's a green 69 caprice 427 that goes to local car shows around here, all original.
C&D did the 427 Vette in 1967 and claimed 12.8@116 or so. But really they were 13.9-14 sec at 105 or so. Went to a Vette drag race at Fremont in 1988 and not one 427 broke 14 sec. 4:54 gears are approx 17mph/1000rpm. 488 =15.5 mph/1000rpm. I have a hard time with a 427 turning 7000 with any reliability. Anyhow, my 1959 Vette was a high 11 car in good tune. 350, 550hp@7800rpm 370 gears. Close ratio Muncie gave 72mph 1st gear but 88mph with 308 gears. Did about the same time with 308, one shift, 2nd gear=115mph.
I think that's a 66' Corvette you are thinking of. I'm not sure the 427 could turn 7200 with reliability, nobody is saying that. Drag race cars blow motors all the time.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles hi.I'll check my Car and Driver....have the Cobra test too. I was surprised to hear that they reved a 427 to 7000. Next door neighbor, Los Altos 1967, a had a 1966 L88 roadster, black on black. Straight side pipes. Lockheed guy, designed entire U2 cockpit arrays. It had L-60-15s that easily spuuuuunnnn, did high 10's. That car did rev to 7, but.... I sold my '59 but kept the 350 it sits quietly, waiting, waiting...need a project.
Happy, in the Jul 15 C&D they tested a 2015 Z06 and a '67 435/427ci Vette with the 3 deuce carbs (L71?). They listed the '67 test results from the May '67 issue.
1/4 was13.6@105. Top speed 142, but they didn't give the axle ratio. Curb# 3137. Redline 6500. Time seems reasonable with the '68 Bisc. And that a stock (one that hadn't been to Uncle Milt's) '65 360/389ci GTO could run 14.4s.
The Biscayne did take a prominent role in Chevy's racing culture. Great video!
Thanks for your comment. I'm glad you liked the video.
Sticker came in at $3474? Those were the days!
Just love old cars in good (this one is excellent) condition.
Super video, I drove a Biscayne in the USAF base here in UK and miss it terribly, are there any surviving models that can be restored in US?
There are a lot of surviving Biscaynes that can be restored. Finding an original L-72 car would be much more difficult, but a common small block automatic car is pretty easy to find.
I wonder how this car would stack up in a drag race against either a similarly set up SS396 L78 Chevelle or a SS396 L78 Nova from the same era? Seems like the power vs weight ratios for these three cars might be about the same.
With period correct tires, the Biscayne would win. Same or better power to weight ratio and more traction, which was super critical back in those days with the skinny bias ply tires.
Now that`s a GEM! Spot on, thank you very much Greg.
Good to hear you have more aviation videos in the pipeline!
My best friends mother who was also best friends with my Mother bought a 1966 Chevelle ss427 convertible with similar equipment and a 4 spd trans, she knew how to drive that car too. She left the Dealership with the car with both rear tires smoking, the salesman said to one of the people standing around "That's a car we're going to be seeing here often", lol. She never had to take it back for any warranty-related repairs or any body repairs. Thought I'd share that with all.
My friend's parents had a '67 Impala 2 door hard top with a 427 four barrel with dual exhaust from the factory.... it was dark blue.
The street in front of their house was striped with tire marks, that car was really cool and was famous in our neighborhood. 🤓🇺🇸🇨🇦
Sorry bob ,never was a 427 Chevelle from the factoy,,,,GM had a ban on A bodies having more than 400 cubes till 1970,when the 454 came around,,why do you think,Pontiac olds, and Buick all had 400s,,396 for the Chevy. till 69 then they all got 455s in 70 ,a nd chevelles got 454s
@@tragiclife9760 You are correct, Sir. I can confirm every word you wrote.
Bobby Tucker must have been mistaken.
All due respect.
Alex G. 🤓
@@alexgolovchenko3791 yep,alex,i was 16 yrs old in 69,grew up with these cars,,owned many of them,worked on literally hundreds of them ,ahhh,the old days were fun
And Biscayne is a post car so stronger body than pilarless cars. 1969 last year of 2 door post full size cars. Like the butternut color.
Hi Duke,, great point about the post. I should cover that in a future video. A lot of the youngsters don't know the difference between a 2 door coupe and a hardtop.
Great video. Even better story. I was in high school back then and saw a lot of desirable cars.
Amazing survivor with accumulated mileage added 1/4 mile at a time- that's some tough service duty cycling!
It's an amazing car.
Fun, nice work and thanks for sharing. That was a fast car on slicks! Keep up the great work.
well sorted facts, it makes one hungry for more videos like this one
i would much rather spend half of this cars.....supossed worth n get a car lots faster n with a fact. warr. like the new c-8 corvette comming out next year or the gt-500.
A valid argument can certainly be made for that. I look forward to a video of your new C8 or GT500.
I remember when these roamed the roads. Its hard to believe that there are so few of them left. Although there were never very many. Those few that were there made an impression that has not faded. There was no mistaking the rumble of that engine as it rolled slowly down the street. Or the roar of the engine revving which drown out everything else. Or the keen joy of hearing it. When the light went green you could hear that magnificent growl as it faded away down the lane. There was no missing the 427. If it was running you'd hear it before you'd see it. And long after it was over the hill out of sight. Even in the peak of the muscle car era, few cars sounded so fast when they were going slow. None could match the awesome speed of the dimning roar that announced its presence so well you could track it with your ear. As a boy my friends and I would run around, and race our bikes towards the sound hoping to get a glimpse of the racer with all the excitement of a rocket launch on race day. The guy who owned the one in my neighborhood would revv the engine to show off to us. Then he'd race it down the road making distant intersections in the sort of incredible time that made our gaggle of kids with gear head brothers swoon with the fantasy of being Nascar racers and space pilots. Which of course we all were until we could drive. Many people in the neighborhood hated that guy, and his car for the noise, and nuisance. Particularly the old women. But we were thoroughly intoxicated by the spell of the Biscayne. In our minds eyes it was us roaring those engines, and crossing an infinite number of finish lines alone. What a shame that they're nearly gone. Whoever is fortunate enough to gain it should take good care of it. And remember that it turns increasingly poorly with speed. Most of these are gone because they were no longer being maintained, but more than their fair share ended up in terrific, terrible wrecks. The intoxicating power is a sirens song for the leadfooted gearhead. Be wary, she bites.
It does seem like yesterday when the sound of the big V-8's pulling away from the stoplight was common. There were indeed many Biscaynes, Impalas, and Caprices running around, and every now and then you would see one with a 427. However of all those, very few had the L-72 427. About 500-600 big Chevys had this motor in 68' and only 124 Biscaynes. Of those 124 only about a dozen were in the drag racing configuration!
It was the same as most everything of the time made to go in a straight line and don't even think about turning or wait stopping either that was all afterthought ever drive a stripped down road runner or something with drums all around and a 383 or heaven forbid a a 426 hemi hold tf on in a straight line but no away bars soft coil springs and a ton of body roll to throw the weight in the wrong places oh yeah tires lmao 14 or 15 inch maybe bias ply not even as wide as today's 70 series tires w a nothing tread pattern how they got them off the line is a wonder most didn't they sat and spin most of the way down the track and if you didn't have a locker rear. Or limited slip forget it Chevy's weren't much better lol but chrysler was the worst for going fast and not doing anything else well when someone says would you want a new Camaro or an old one I say new all day cuz it turns and stops ona dime a dz 302 z28 was a death trap for real even with the standard disk brakes up front and heavy duty away bars the still did not have the suspension or tires to match performance
@@glennmanchester1568 There's no doubt cars are safer now. Even the new hemi's and chargers are safe as a volvo now.
Thank u for the video! What an exceptional car! I own 2 1967 impalas both have there factory 327 engine!
Thanks Racer. I love the 327, it's a great engine, plenty of performance, not too bad on gas, easy to work on, just all around a great engine.
That was enjoyable I'm the owner of a 1966 Caprice with the 396 package I am second owner of the car it's all original matching numbers.
She's not the youngest Belle at the ball but she still turns heads
That's a fabulous car!
Greg, growing up in the tristate area (ny, nj, ct) their was a car dealership called Baldwin Chevrolet. That in 1968 would build you a drag racer special a biscayne like this for about $3,400 out the door. They would also do this to corvettes, camaros Google Baldwin Chevrolet you will not believe what they offered!! Thanks great video
Yes, in 68' there were a few dealers that did their own installations to work around G.M.'s 400 cubic inch limit for the mid size cars. There were also what we would now call tuners, like Hurst who put a 455 into the Olds 4-4-2. That's the reason I referenced factory installed 427s. For 1968, that engine was only in either the big cars, or the Corvette. Now for 1969 there were a very small number of exceptions. That's another story.
Baldwin took them around the corner to Joel Rosen, the owner of Motion Industries. Hence the Baldwin-Motion cars. 427s were either transplanted or built to achieve a performance level with traction aided suspension, 4.56 gears and a Hon-o-drive overdrive. Every one of them, not mattter what body they were in came with the guarantee of running 11.50 1/4 times with a Motion driver or your money refunded. NO ONE ever collected on that. Awesome killer cars. Motion even had the government on them when Vega models appeared with Big Block power and no catalytic convertor.
1968 leaves fond memories for me because my dad bought a new 2 door Impala in March of that year. It was a 307 with three on the tree with overdrive.
Because of the overdrive the rear end was geared quite low. Even with the 307 two barrel you could rev the engine and pop the clutch and it would leave two 8-foot black marks on the pavement.
My dad ordered the car with posi traction and heavy-duty suspension. The 68 full size Chevrolets were great looking cars.
Now to a really great story. In 1970 my older brother bought a new SS 454 LS5 with a four speed.
It was cranberry red no strips with black bucket seat interior. Beautiful car.
My brother only had it one year because it was stollen out of the GM Truck & Bus parking lot while he was in the plant working. This is where the story gets really good.
My brother refused to take a pay off from the insurance company and demanded another 1970 SS Chevelle.
Well, my brother found one for sale and the price was in the ballpark for the insurance company to pay for the car.
This Chevelle was not factory stock. It was a black with white strips, beach seat black cloth interior with an automatic collum shifter car.
Nothing fancy about this SS Chevelle except what was hiding under the hood.
Sitting nicely in the engine bay was a balanced and blue printed 472 big block, open chambered heads, roller cam, long tube headers, twin points distributor, electric fuel pump, large single Holley carburetor, 4:88 rear end posi traction torque monster.
The engine in this car was amazing. The guy who owned the car before selling it to my brother said at MI Lapeer Dragway with the single carb it ran in mid to low 11's.
He also ran the car with a staggered dual quad set up which ran in the mid 10's. He told my brother that with the single carb it was 600 HP and with the dual quad set up it was 700 HP.
In the summer my brother would cruse Woodward Ave after dark looking for someone to race. I was not with him at the time, but he told me the best and closest race he had was a 1970 Baldwin Motion 454 Camaro.
The torque of that 472 was absolutely incredible and when it hit second gear it would walk away from anyone trying to keep up with it.
After my brother lost interest in the car somewhere around the year 1975, the guy who sold it to my brother bought it back and said he was going to take it back to Ohio and completely rebuild the engine and restore the car back to its former glory. I have no doubt he did just that.
decades
I had a1967 ex Wisconsin State Patrol Biscayne 427 with 3 on the tree.It wasnt quick but it was fast,rear end was for highway cruising.Had a system off the carb to transfer gas to a stranded motorist. Still had the 2 tone paint> Dealer was forced to call the car back in to be repainted all one color.Some of the other buyers were playing state patrol..Cost a fortune even back in 1970 for gas to make our runs to the beer bar.Speedometer went to 140 certified,at which time the front end wanted to become an airplane
Great video.
When i came back from Vietnam i bought a new 67 chevelle 2 door sedan (bench seat rubber mat) 396 4 speed. Put a solid cam 427 in it. Now that's America. Still have the 396 sitting in my shop.
I love sleepers like this!!!!
I saw factory 4:88s and clicked.
Planes too?
If you're ever out and about , stop by airport 44N!
Ill click subscribe when I'm done typing here.
(For those who don't know, Google "airport 44n" and the location is revealed)
I haven't been into 44N, although I have been to a lot of airports. I looked it up, and it looks really nice.
Thank you sir, I grew up around the area.
I love the airport community here, you already know probably.
A bunch of older fellas are always around ready to tell war tales and i wouldn't trade it for anything.
Around here at least, if you start chatting with someone you might get a free airplane ride.
These guys wanna go for a ride but being alone is boring.
Did your friend Les sell the car and if os, do you recall the sale price?
That's a good question. I haven't talked to him in a while, and I don't know. Plus with Les, he could have decided to keep it, so that's possible too.
Sweet!
What an era in automobiles. Made no difference what the model, you had the total array of options available for the line. You may have had some limitations, but they were items that were model specific.
There was a huge array of choices when ordering cars in the 60's.
How can I contact you? I am doing some research on a 68 Biscayne L72 for a friend. We are wondering if it's a COPO car but not sure how to find the information. The car is, as it was on the showroom floor. 15K original miles.
Hi David, I have no way of knowing if a car is a COPO or not, I am not a Chevrolet expert.
I hope you bought it why mess around? A L72 car with 15k just buy it who cares if its copo or not
So what happened 3 yrs later?
I've always loved the fast land yachts! My 1st car back in 83 was a 72 Pontiac Catalina with the 400 and it moved! The 73 Chrysler Town & Country with a 440 4bbl in it was a moving monster too boy! Then that 440 ended up in a 72 barracuda, since some scumbag stole my 70 Dart GT it was originally going into. And thus the muscle car fever turns to a full blown sickness,eventually morphing into a life long disease/love affair ! Lol! And i wouldn't have it any other way! Thanks for sharing this with us. ▪☆☆☆▪
Remember when cars were beautiful and real.
Yea, I was always Mopar, but I gotta be honest, all the cars from this time had character, class, and truly beautiful machines
@@artbrookey3341 Yup had 1973 Plymouth Duster 440 & 1970 Plymouth Cuda 383 purple white vinyl top and bucket seats mag wheels oh I miss those cars with the cheap plastic toy cars they make today so sad what cars have become.
Greg , this is so Nice that it hurts . This is really special for someone that drove Vehicles with Big V-8s and shared the road with Cars like this . So many neat cars owned by little old Ladies are still turning up after being tucked away in a Garage some where . Thank you for this unplanned Video .
Thanks Mark.
Hi Greg, love your channel, both the choice of aviation and automotive topics. Is there a way to send you a private message or email? Thanks again for the great content!
sure, go to hpsimotorsports.com and find an email there.
Dad was a decorated F6F pilot in the Pacific in 1944, and I was an auto racing aficionado in my teens and 20s, so either one of Greg's series on WW II combat aircraft or muscle cars hits my particular sweet spot. My flight time is a mere 20 minutes in the front seat of a T-6, but I did win a handful of trophies with my "Formula 'S'" 1967 Barracuda - 3:55 differential, 4-speed, 9 (that's NINE) mpg in what I regarded as "normal" street driving. My best time (strictly stock and with the factory tires) was 15.3 @ 89 mph - a 427 Chevy was WAY out of my league. Keep 'em coming, Greg!
Thanks Ray. The Barracuda Formula S was a great car. Overshadowed by the Mustang, but I like the Barracuda more.
Ray, I flew a T-6 at "Warbirds" outside of Orlando. Just great.
My parents had this insurance man back in the 60s .Back then he would stop buy and pickup the ins. payment once a month, he drove a car just like that. I’m sure the gears were different in his. My older brother was making fun of him for driving a grandma car until he showed him the front fender where it said 427, then he opened the hood. Well you could have herd a pin drop, then he pointed out the 4 speed shifter. It was dark blue , plane Jane with poverty caps . What a sleeper, we didn’t pick on him anymore. I still think about that car from time to time, wondering if he still has it.
Love cars like this. Awesome.
Thanks for sharing this video 📹of this unmolested 68 Chevrolet Biscayne And are Extremely Rear And Real lcon muscle 💪car that you just don't see any where
1955 to 1972. Detroit Iron. The Best.
I can't disagree. There really is something about those cars.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles -- And it's not just the power plants. The styling and design make them rolling artwork.
It's hard to put my finger on it, but for some reason, it's exciting just to sit in a 1966 GTO. I don't get that feeling in any new car, not even the exotics. Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of new cars, but the feeling isn't the same. I know others feel the same way, and it's not nostalgia either. My evidence is that in the 60's there were a lot of popular songs about cars, that's not true today.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles -- Chevrolet had an ad where they showed a 1963 Split window Corvette from the back with a caption that says, "They don't write songs about Volvos." My brother had a 1964 Impala with a 409. I've been in a lot of cars; that one was FAST.
Wow! Thanks for sharing that! Not just one of many! One of a kind!
It sure is. For me, what makes this car so special is that it was ordered specifically as a drag race car, has a real race history from the 60's and is still in it's as raced condition from 1969! It would be very rare to find any car that actually raced in 1969, let alone one still in its as raced condition. So, at least to me, what's special here isn't just the car, which is awesome in and of itself, but the history is represents.
That is certainly a fine example,,especially in as raced condition very cool,,But, not one of a kind,they made many of them,,,not.many have survived so to see one like this is very rare indeed
I’m a Ford guy but GM was at the top of their game in the 60’s
Complete with steelies and dog dish caps - beautiful, perfect. Biscaynes are #1 👍
Thanks for watching Bruce. I appreciate it.
We really appreciate your always being on the lookout for ways to keep us entertained. It's working.
Even stripped down , still looks like a tank.
Nice let's see some MOPAR now
I have a fair bit of Mopar in my Muscle Car pt 1 and 2 videos.
@slade bonge ha... you sound like a Chevy man
@slade bonge no problem,,I give Ford owners hell. I don't mean nothing by it I just like the rivalry.
@John Carosi your right, cars today all look the same and have parts from everywhere. You cant beat the old American cars
@slade bonge, jealousy is not good.
Great video! Brings the American Graffiti era back! The beer tasted better, the girls were cuter and I was. . . Notice the HUGE amount of space around the engine!
Yes, I miss that space.
Oh look, a Thunderbolt without wings.
Yes kids, low 13s used to be a very respectable 1/4 mile time. Tech for tires and heads have come a long way.
Low 13s - high 12s is still what your Mustang GT and Camaro SS will run with factory tires. If you go nuts and go for something like a Camaro ZL1 1LE, you might see more of a difference in that time, but even the fastest street cars run high 9s. Right now you're not going to see anything better than that.
this baby didn't even have headers..... had factory ignition (low quality). not even roller rockers.... long live the 427.
A question unrelated to this video... in the run-up to World War 2, (this is a question you may already have addressed) did the War department ever consider separating the capabilities of the B-17 and B-29's bombers, so that they would be laden only with bomb loads and pilots, but without gunners, guns, armor and ammunition, and then building separate planes with no bombs but more and better-equipped gunners, who could have accompanied the bombers as the fighters did? I'm thinking that both the bombers and armament planes would have been faster & could have flown higher and farther, among other advantages. If built to the same specs, the armed planes might also have been mixed in with the bomber formations, so that Nazi fighters wouldn't know which to attack. Christopher28fair@msn.com
The actually did do that, or at least something similar. They had super heavily armed B-17's with no bombs, basically trading bomb payload for more machine guns, and mixed these into the formations. However the plan didn't really work. Once the actual bombers dropped their payload, they would have to fly home at a reduced speed to allow the heavy gunships to keep up. Nobody want's to slow down when escaping enemy territory, so the whole idea died out. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YB-40_Flying_Fortress
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Hi @Mark Travner , I can be contacted via email, greg @ hpsi motorsports dot com. Eliminate the spaces.
Nice, thanks. Would have like a close up of the build sheet. Like those old dollar numbers. Price when new?
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$3600. I snap a photo then you can enlarge it that’s how I saw the price.
Lol can you imagine buying that car new and put it away for all these years. Same for a lot of them like the 1970’ Road Runner Superbird. They’re worth over 100k these days. If you had one original with 1000 miles it would probably bring you $1,000,000 easy.
@@dontellgucci1117 Tried a screen shot but the resolution when enlarged turn to mush. $3600 was a lot of money back in 68. Think I would have sprung for the SS package. Bucket seats, console, badges, tack. This car would have been called a sleeper. Like the color, red, yellow just got the police attention.
a six speed Richmond, or a tremec, manual trans....and the 4.56's....OMFG....Orgasm time....7200 RPM shifts? WOW.....my 340 Duster Motor (mech. lifter) I would not get that high....they said 7000 was okay, but like 6600-6800 was fine...this ride must be rarer than the 426 hemi cuda convertible (comparable to how the cars would be set-up)….I grew up drivin' a '70 Charger 440-6 car....3.54 (highway gears) but awesome at 120 plus.....727TF car....sweet ride here.....and this car is in Granite county in Montana.....about 60 miles NW of me.....recognize the tag (#46)….awesome.....
my bad....from 4.88 to 4.56's....a bit more....streetable that way too....love this car!!!
Thanks, the car is in Tulsa, and has been for a least a couple years. I think that plate is on it for shows, I'm guessing because that's where it raced or something.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles there are 56 counties in Montana.....done by 1 thru 56.....46 is Granite County....about 60 miles from the Silver-Bow county seat.....Phillipsburg, or "P-Burg" as the locals call it....only get 4-5 months out of the year to drive the nice cars up here....sold both of my 'Merc's a few years ago trying to save my house.....damned nice car that '68 though.....had a souped-up '72 Duster in the mid 90's....
~Nice little tidbit, thanks!
Very 👍....thanks
In 1965, you could order a Drag Pack option for the Biscayne. 425hp 396 and 4 speed. In 2000, I saw an original for $75K. I think all original car prices are insane. Instead I bought a 1965 Bicayne and made my own idea of a drag pack option. I built a 550hp 454 and a Richmond 6 speed. Added 3:42 posi giving me the best of both worlds. On the hwy, it acted like 3:00 gears but around town, it felt like 4:56 gears. Including the price of the car, I had $20K into it.
I'm right there with you Rick. That's more or less what I would do. The small block automatic cars are still affordable, and with modern engines, you can have all the power you want and with modern transmission, you can have the 4.56 acceleration with the 3.00 highway cruising. This particular car is about history, not the best possible modern build.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Worked for a guy late 80s who had a 65 with the 425hp 3964 spd..had no idea. Asked me to go move it handed me the keys. Soon as it fired up, choke/high idle I heard the cam and he started laughing when i stuck my hed out the window with a wtf look
Wish I could have afforded it then. 100% stock survivor turn key 5k
nice car