Not to say he is wrong or right but him as a Xhosa man i would like to hear more about his own nation history. I am yearning for other tribes to tell their history. When Zulus talk about themselves some people get offended and say why is it that only Zulus have history. I am still waiting for a person who will come in and educate us about the history of other tribes in South Africa. We hear too much about Zulus and nothing about other tribes even from the people who come from those tribes don't want to talk about their tribes. I do appreciate new information but i think we need to know that before there was Shaka, there was someone called Zulu. Shakas real name is Sgidi kaSenzangakhona no reference of Zulu father there. Zulu was a name of a person that existed generations before Shaka (Sgidi). I think he focused on Shaka without starting at the beginning of the lineage leading to Shaka to conclude that Zulu is a creation of the British empire. In actual fact other clans under the Zulu kingdom still have chiefs in their own lands. Maybe we must look at how unity should have been under an older ancestor that is common to all Zulu people and not under Zulu. Just a thought.
Why would they stab him when his telling the truth many mixed/coloureds come in different skin shades guyz there sre Indian/Black. ARAB/BLACK, DUTCH/BLACK KOISAN/Dutch, portuguese Isreali infact nations who came to Africa or wherever wars were fought Deals being made mixed/coloured children were being born. Thexwhole world these groups of peoplexwere born. Later depending who u marry yr children some became lighter. Some became darker etc Penial X u so much for bringing our Brother here eho is finally telling Truths about past historys, the coloureds etc Its just like today Chinese/Black mix see their children their mixed/coloured this group of people come in different colour shades when they go nd marry Blacks or white indian some children will hv darker skin some like your complexion Penuel. Very interesting.
But Shaka Zulu founder of Zulu Nation before John Dunn was born in fact this John Dunn was close to King Cetshwayo, why don't he teach us about his own history, the obsession about Zulu history is too much
😂😂😂 he missed one point, each surname has it own king in KwaZulu with Zulu as the king of kings who United all these surnames so that in future they stand against the enermy... Some people should teach us about their history, the obsession about Zulu history is too much, yet they don't teach us about their history 😔
He’s right about Amalawu kwaXhosa though especially kwaBomvane. We have pure Xhosa families whose surnames are Nightingales etc some don’t really have English surnames but still belong there. It was always weird, I was kinda too young to comprehend that history tbh😂 But definitely not all of us, it’s just a very small number maybe less than 1%. I’m not sure why he was dismissive when Pen said it was a mixture.
if you truly are Zulu then you should know NkosinKulu Mnguni kaNkosinKulu Luzumana kaMnguni Malandela kaLuzumana Zulu kaMalandela are the fathers of true bloodline Zulus so obviously we had history before Shaka
But being Zulu did not start with Shaka.And secondly he is distorting and conscruing information.Why does he not begin with xhosa does not exist as a nation he is not saying his information properlly
This brother, he may smoke his weed but he is intelligent and knows what most do not know and is here today teaching us new things. I just researched and he is telling the truth
@@bekithembandebele9393but then the Khoisan have the oldest DNA in the world and they don't fall under Bantu. You see their writings in caves. So before Shaka Zulu where were the Zulus? Because the first people in SA were Khoi and San
@JuicyJLee khoisan are the indigenous tribe of South africa but we as nguni tribe came from Central Africa around the years of 1400. Mnguni was the king until the great grand son "Zulu" inherit the the kingdom he then formed Zulu tribe. In 1652 when Jan Van Riebik came to South Africa Zulu kingdom was already in existence. Not lamasimba akhulunywa ilomasaka
John Robert Dunn came in the times of King Cetshwayo who reigned in 1856 and was made chief after being a close diplomatic and trade ambassador for the Zulus and Colonial Countries. He was given an ultimatum to disown the Zulu Kingdom after the wars and chose to align with Britain and was awarded land by the Colonies where he took wives and made them all Christians and exempted black people. The Zulu Kingdom though is older than King Cetshwayo's reign. What he is saying is true, we do have a lot of Black Mixed race Zulu people whom themselves have been denied the history of their forefathers and some who actually know it as its not that old but choose to ignore it just like how some Coloured Mixed race ignore their Black history and acknowledge only their White or Khoi/San/Nama history. But all the Zulu families of Dunn were Christians and grew their families in Missionaries and became Exempted Blacks/Zulus back then seen as collaborators of the colonial masters. This is the part he forgot to mention that the Zulu Kingdom started before the 1600s by Luzumana kaMnguni/Ngoni. But he is saying the truth and just lacks aligning or articulating what he wanted to say and misled people. Malandela kaLuzumana divided the kingdom into two clans, the Qwabe and the Zulu and this is when the Kingdom was officially born in the 1700s. This is the proper lineage outside insango. Sigidi kaSenzangakhona (King Shaka) only started his reign in 1816 of the Zulu clan after killing Sigujana kaSenzangakho to ascend to the already existing Zulu kingdom. Shaka then consolidated other kingdoms and chiefdoms into the Zulu kingdom through diplomacy or war. Hayi insango has no problem, the problem is the person who abuses it 🤣🤣🤣
He is full of envy that he resorts to manipulating knowledge to suit a false narrative. His own Xhosa people have bo Jantjies,Booi,Grootboom etc but doesn't recognize Xhosa people as whites. Idakiwe lenja, msunu ka Bob Marley.
@@RastaAfricanGentleman you just hate the truth You are everywhere crying Go research the guys he mentioned, why are you so comfortable kangaka with lies? You only want to be the best? You don't want to admit the truth about the ugly side of your tribe?
This is so painful that a man from the street can speak with our kingdom like this. He is not a renowned Afrikan historian, not an academic. I don’t know why he chooses to speak about the Zulu Kingdom when he is a Xhosa Rastafarian. Zulu Nation was never promoted by the British settlers. Britain tried everything to wipe away our kingdom, even today they are fighting to finish us as the Zulu Nation in South Africa. In one day on the 22nd of January 1879 British Army killed more than 10 000 Zulus at the Battle of Isandlwana. We nevertheless defeated them in that day. Before that war, we had many battles with both Afrikaners and British Armies. The likes of Blood River Battles, and many more before Isandlwana under King Dingane. Even nowadays in the 1990”s British propagandists caused a war in South Africa to get rid of the Zulus, about. 12000 Zulus died in the process. They failed to finish us. We fought a lot to keep a name of the province. They wanted to remove a name Zulu in the name of the province. We ended up having a compromised name of KwaZulu Natal. They changed the name of Radio Zulu to be Ukhozi FM to move away from this name. Yes we have a family of John Dunn in KZN, even today they are coloureds. They stay in Mangethe, Mandeni under INkosi Mathaba eMacambini. That clan cannot institute even 1% of the Zulus. We are 16 million as the Zulus in South Africa, Dunn family still uses that surname and they are not more than 200.
And there he is as high as ever saying Natal shows ukuthi the British made us, yahlanya lo he has no respect for the Zulu nation uthi we were defeated kuzo zonke izimpi, ay ulasta 😂😂😂
You guys do not do your research, Shaka never fought with the English instead he partnered with them. Same thing happened eswatini when the dlamini partnered with the English to defeate and dethrone the Ncamane people from Swaziland
This is the same guy that said Afrikaans has mandarin in it 🤣😭he knows a lot of things but he also talks a lot of bullshit Our problem as africans is that we think people who are articulate are smart clearly he should know the Zulu kingdom formed before any British member landed (although not by name until Shaka formalised it )in South Africa💀🤣 and to say Zulus are white because of one white ancestors is like saying. Boers are black because of one black ancestors that might’ve done something during the Anglo Boer war it really doesn’t hold any water if Zulus are so much as 30% white it wouldn’t matter because the majority of the genetic make up is African I can refute this guys argument using actual documented history
@@Januarieswealth. Danko! Once you can express yourself we think you are a gem. This man is poison, imagine how many young minds he is polluting. If he knew our history and respected our culture, he would not have become a Rastafarian, praising Haile Selassie, who explained vehemently to the founders of the Rastafarianism that he is not a deity incarnate, that he will be replaced like any other human and he belongs to the Coptic Church and must not be venerated in any way or shape. Kodwa ba fosta bamenza u God wabo ngenkani.
The problem is that our history as Southern Africans blacks was never written, it was shared verbally from generation to generation and that process spieces were added and the real truth was lost
The problem was that, with written history it was easy for invaders to lay their hands on it and learn things about our secrets(knowledge)as it was not meant for outsiders (non blacks) then. So our elders resorted to verbal information,to some extent,even passing it through DNA or the all(consciousness) to protect it from non blacks. Non blacks invaded Africa, went into our libraries, killed the elders and the griots, by so doing they were ensuring that future generations are left with no information at all. With the information they so brutally stole, they went in different places to open their organisations( free masonry,Illuminati, brotherhood etc) That is why most blacks know nothing about who they are, where they come from, and most importantly about their history! So let's keep on learning, if it resonate with you, good. You can always rely on common sense! Peace
These type of conversations happen in Centane, Eastern Cape, in the context of history of amaXhosa. It brings uncomfortable facts and distortions in narrative that seeks to erase the real truth.
@@MjoliQubulashe The truth is that the Zulu people come from Mnguni. The Nguni people are part of the Bantu people. The Bantu people moved from Central Africa down South. While other Bantu people settled in other parts in the south to form their own tribes, the others continued further down south and settled in some parts of the land in a Country we now call "South Africa".
Yes the Dunn history is true but I can't agree that those less than 50 descendants out of 100s of thousands of black people at the time, define what it is to be Zulu. It just means that a few Zulu today carry those white gene but that's really all it is
Well....I just happen to be an absolute direct dependant of John Dunn...and he had 49 wives...my grandfather,Leonard Arthur Dunn,being the very last born child...in 1895...the year John Dunn died...and yes,we are many...of all shapes and colours...some chocolate, with curly hair,some blonde,straight hair and blue eyes...some with blonde curly hair...some very dark,with very curly hair...but we are family....😂
@@SipheSithole100% correct. It's the same argument that some people make claiming all Tsongas are Zulus because of uSoShangane. Soshangane didn't create Tsongas, he found them an existing nation.
@@fazelsoza3406 Exactly what he said about John Robert Dunn, him being given Zulu wives and making a lot of kids with them. Check it out because I can't tell you everything, it's been a while.
IT IS A FACT...MY MOTHER uMAZULU, A WOMAN FROM EBUKHOSINI, KNOWS IT...THEY KNOW OF THIS FACT. IT'S JUST THAT NOT MANY PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF IT. YOU CAN ALSO FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF..ASK ABOUT USOMTSEWU & JOHN ROBERT DUNN & THEIR INTERACTIONS IN THE ZULU ROYAL FAMILIES... OR JUST SIMPLY GOOGLE IT.
This mansangwini man is narrating the history of Coloureds in KwaZulu, so many are found in places like Wentworth, Mangethe, Tugela. Zulus was already an established nation before John Dunn a.k.a Jontoni by Zulus. This man should stop spreading lies that will be consumed as the truth by idiots like him ezingazi lutho nge history yakwa zulu. Uqamba namanga enjalo uth uJon'toni uSomtswewu🚮
Many coloured children in Zimbabwe nd South Africa infact African continent were told nd raised to say they are Black they r just light skin from some of the ancestors genes they had to say that to avoid being austrasized by their Black familys md people so the children did as they were told. I have a cousin who went through that. The storys are deep. I bet many Koisans fell in2cthese brackets Many of these children have coarse hair nd some a little finer. Tom Jones went through that people adking him if his mixed race he finally took dna nd whala his mixed. This is deep we spend time fighting hateing eachother when we are all One. Every Race has its own traits bc its embedded in yr dna. Seriously pse keep these vloggs going with this our smart informative Bro. Blessings keep them coming
A nation a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory. The Zulu has history from way before colonisation what in the world is he talking about
The guy is correct. Some of these Kingdoms & Chiefdoms were consolidated because the colonist & the missionary wanted permanent leaders who were going to serve as their contacts when they visit. ..Professor Ntsebeza from UCT & other scholars from SA & overseas who write extensively about land do alude to these facts in their papers.. The journals of the missionaries & other writings from the 1800s also mention this 😮. All these chiefdoms & kingdoms need serious reviews
Lol it funny because John Dunn was born after Shaka Zulu died , so he was close to King Cetshwayo, to add to that he had 117 children, Shaka Zulu had 30 000 army , 😂😂😂 all this happened before John Dunn.. so the guy smoke too much weed
The Zulu Kingdom it been there before white people,The Zulu nation even fought against British.That why the White people respect Amazulu because we know how to stand our ground...🎯
The Zulu people were in Africa before the whites, but the whites were in western cape long before any black tribe. I exclude the koi and San people who there when the whites arrived so for any black tribe to claim South Africa belongs to them is false , they have ownership in a way to land northwards of the line in the sand and the boers ownership south of the line in the sand on the day the two met on that faithful day. The whites colonised the original inhabitants the koi and San they were there when they arrived and the blacks ( Zulu ) colonised the various weaker Bantu tribes that were in their path when they moved south . Those are the ugly facts and true history.
The family of Dunn are in Plettenbergbay and they are coming from KZN.interestings.All coloured are not mix race.Most of them are purely indigenous Khoi or San.Apartheid put them all as coloured
Simple thing is why are Zulu's and Sotho's called nations but others are called tribes. There is no khoi san Nation because this form of monarchy came with the British.
No the Zulu and the Sotho and Pedi were a forced to be reckoned with they beat the British in many battles although they lost the wars hence they were rewarded respect from the British hence when they took ZULU LAND they didn’t use Zulu people to do the slave work (they declined) but they used indentured slaves from India that’s responsible for the current Indian population then they turned Lesotho into a British protectorate meaning mshoeshoe could still rule over Lesotho region and the Pedi beat the Boers and British with Skoekoene (name might be spelled wrong) although the Swati ended up selling them out that’s another strory then their history as a nation was overshadowed by the Boers who turned Pedi land into transvaal then later expanded into now modern day Gauteng (lots of holes in my story but that’s the summary)
This man is a troll. There were different nations in this area called KwaZulu & they were united by the Zulu clan. Hence, KwaZulu. OMlotshwa & oMakhanya couldn't be European by the furthest stretch of the imagination. Mayepa is Sotho. Tembe were a Tsonga clan also united by Zulu. Eswatini also had different nations & clans but were united by Dlamini, Nkosi, Ngwane & Mswati. This man is dangerous & leading people astray. Without Britian, Zulu history would still exist just as Maasai history would still exist without German occupation of their land.
Shaka kaSenzangakhona became king and created the Zulu kingdom in 1816 and the first British settlers arrived in KwaZulu in 1820, way after Shaka was already king 🤷🏿♂️ Nangu umuntu edakwa🤞🏾
Thev1720 Settlers landed in what they named the Cape Colony. That's why out there we (Xhosa) called ourselves "abasekoloni"There were no 1820 Settlers in Natal.
@@nomagcisacawe3297Barthalomue Dias and Vas goda gama who were Portuguese found Port Natal(Natalie) but 17 hundreds Britain took over the port of Natal
@@sikhumbuzomthethwa201 Dias circumnavigated the Cape and went up the RSA coastline until he landed in Mocambique. On that voyage he would never have avoided passing thru Natal. Even the name Natal is attributed to him.
Facts!! The colonists gave most of Africa their tribal identities. This is true for most of Africa and most of the Native American tribes as well. And you see how proud African people are of their tribe. The yt man named you. You don’t even know it.
Why ppl are so obsess abt Zulus..Zulu this,Zulu that.. Cant they talk abt other nations or culture hhay mani...obvious history is long we knw that..are they trying to degrade Zulus or what hhay mani!
Yes it became a kingdom because of him, prior to that, the Zulu were just a Nguni clan just like the Ndwander and Mthethwa. It became a kingdom after Shaka started invading the neighbouring smaller tribes.
Pen you cannot condon this on your show I think this guy must be summoned to the king of the Zulu so that he can elaborate further with regards to the remarks he is uttering
So you want to embarass your king that he be taught history by a commoner? Don't be like that go do your research he just told you if don't believe research.
@@tautebellojames7661but Senzangakhona, Shaka were there before John Dunn guy 😂😂 John Dunn was close to King Cetshwayo.. and he doesn't understand that every surname under Zulu monarchy has it own king with Zulu the king of kings. So Mthembu, Mthethwa, Mbatha, etc have their own kings
there are people who are descendants of Zulu Malandela, eg Gumede, Ntombela, Biyela, Ndaba and many more so are those people not Zulu? since Zulu is their Great-Grand father how can you say zulu people don't exist?? my self i'm a Zulu by blood not by conversion so you are saying i don't exist?? Zulu kaMalandela Mageba kaZulu Ndaba ka Mageba xhoko kaNdaba(Xhoko son of Ndaba is the patriarch of Biyela) same with surnames like Gumede ( Gumede ka Zulu) Ntombela kaMalandela.... tthis is why you should learn about your lineage
@@shayababibiyela6754 but even before Zulu or xhosa we came from East Africa, so what language did we speak? And what will we called because colonizers gave us the names Zulu and xhosa. Unfortunately I might not be xhosa as I was told by my parents 🤣🤣😂😂😂
@@bongani_menze my point is maybe colonizers gave you the name xhosa grouping you into a tribe you don't belong to .. what i am saying is that, that is not the case for all of us.. some of us are Zulu by Blood because we are the decedents of a man called Zulu. so maybe others were grouped into us but we were not given that name by whites
Ngaze nga phoxeka. I watched this man speak intelligently on Castle Milk Stout’s podcast … this is such a sharp turn to that. You can’t tell me that an entire Zulu nation only began 3 or 4 generations ago. And that it is white??? 😅😅😅😅
Ntsangu....only helps people Born with Intelligence. Lesser minds should not smoke the Queen of Plants, it will only confuse them. This Brother is a Wise Man, all respect to Him.
Very deep stuff here. Difficult on the ear, shocking to the heart, but makes sense to the brain. The Zulu nation is less than 200 years old. Who were ‘Zulus’ before Shaka Zulu? Why has there been such a strong historical interest on the Zulu nation by the British? Had Shaka not emerged, what tribe would we call Zulu’s today?
This guy is KING i would love to meet him someday...Check it out... What i truly appreciated was how refugees came to Xhosa land... From history i got from the families around Eastern Cape and Western Cape... Xhosa had accommodated many tribes with in their own land... Thats why till this day there's land of Xhosa in Kwa Zulu Natal...
Sorry as far as I now history. When theXOSA people inhabited this land. The Hesipwa (my indigenous heritage) the chochokwa, koraner, San,koi koi and other aboriginal people where here before the Xosa and Zulu people.
So u could have a thousand black ancestors kodwa ube umlungu because of the genes of one white man? And klento ya Robert dunn clans don't come from the women so there's only one clan yakhe and yes it does exist
John Dunn died on 5 August 1895 of dropsy and heart disease and was buried at Emoyeni in the Colony of Natal,[3]: 64 having married 48 wives and fathered 117 children. He was survived by 23 wives including Catherine, besides 33 sons and 46 daughters. Catherine died on 27 January 1905, at age 72. All of Dunn's dependents were settled on a 40 km2 reserve near the Tugela River. Their ownership of the land was confirmed by the John Dunn Land Distribution Acts of 1902 and 1935.[2]
I guess 2024 is all about the Zulu Nation. Ay kubi!😂 Not all these people coming here to talk about Zulu people. Ay bakwethu. Evolve or die...nathi we found a strategy that worked for us back then. There is a Zulu Nation now thats all that matters.
Truth bra sihlukene bafo silwa zodwa 😂😂 and different kings like umkhanyakude Untembe like my suename is ndimande which they were running for king shaka for disrespectful at him my clan name Gcwensa,dumisa,Nkalane and Mzululwini
No no the British came in 1824 which was known as natal and king Shaka was still alive and at that time he had already established the Zulu Kingdom,he had fought many battles to build the Zulu empire
The plight plight of Zulu indepence was more known than the anc.The initial liberation of the zulu from britian and succision from south africa as a country was more internationally know hence the anc was formed initially by the Zulu hence prixley ka Seme was sent by the Zulu Royal family to go abroad.Then Later Mangosutho appointed as Prime Minister of the zulu nation.Oliver Tambo and Joe Modise wre shocked abroad when Mangosutho got a standing ovasion as he represented hence some members of the anc had to reduce Buthelezi's strength as thry felt sidelined hence his betrayal by Oliver Tambo and. They felt a strong Zulu presence within the anc.To save south africas economy uthelezi was favoured to becime President if South Africa.Wich alot of non zulu anc members were opposed to it and approached and convinced america to support the anc and not Mangosutho Initially both Britain and America were in favour of Mangosutho especially Britain but later britain helt back as America supportd the anc.Most of what people think thry know is not true.There are no xhosa people its a buch of seperate clans thatvwere grouped by the British xhosa is not a nation its a british arrangement .Similar to Batswana the mapedinbecame a nation after mzilikazi lost there war he was incharge of huge areas lin limpopo mpumalanga gauteng touching portion of the north west he was a leader of a small clan barote who origimate from betweennzimbabwe and zambia ,the basotho as a nation where formed a bit later after shaka had already mobilised his people so to say the zulu are the youngest is a political.ply or laziness and peoole must syop following mapinga snd the faje king bhungane those a gaslighter and some of these fake historians are fundef by ngo's.The shona was never a nation just a grouping classified as the ethnic peoole found in zimbabwe by Mzilikazi so the shona as a nation are younger that the zulu even.Idrologies can twist .Xhosa history is basef on fabrications and bapedi git guns from the boers and some of their groups assisted thr nritish in only one major war wich was the voirtrekker ndebele war.Those vetwern mapefi and the europeans were mini battles also amongs the different xhosa clans.Shaka was a monarch you cannot compare his leader shief to that of leaders of small clans.This guy needs to inform himself and understand linguistic and stop fabricating history to suite his people.Shaka was the chosen one.Guys remember most of thr information on shows like penuel is personsl opinion not factvesoecially informarion on the social media and youtube channels.And people have a way of depicting information in a manner of being bias and making assumtions to boost their egos.Prople very well thos guest wa pota
Guys i love your podcast and i am a top fan, please do incorporate English subtitles where isiZulu or any other language is used knowing that there are other Africans that are watching the podcasts.
Arr we ignoring Facts this brother is dropping just because he smoke weed... Or we feel uncomfortable with what he saying... Lets not take ourselves that low Some of you cannot even talk about 3 generations of their families From there great grand parents
Lo uyahlanya futhi angekeke esasizakala. Zulu nation was only colonized around the late 1800s when whites arrived in the SA in 1652. What does he think was happening between 1652 and when King Shaka died?
Yey bakhiti amanga ahlaza lawa! … isizwe sakwa Zulu kade sikhona before isilo uShaka in fact the name AmaZulu is misinterpreted it is originally ABAZULU which means “them who are for/with Zulu … why ??? Because of umlando waka Zulu no Qwabe abahlukanisa isizwe esaziwa ngokhut amaNguni that were led by uMalandela because he wasn’t a Zulu king but a Nguni king , uShaka wanted to rebuild and reinstate that chiefdom of his forefather by forcefully uniting the demi clans that existed within amaNguni so lento ekhulunwa lana ayaziwa bakwethu
Its true. There was never a Zulu nation but a tribe with induna but the British wanted a brutes in southern Africa to pamper, manipulate and used against other tribes that's why the Zulus can only attributed to violence, wars and fights.
@@LindaSibeko-j2vlol yet Shaka is older than the John Dunn this weed smoker is talking about, the John Dunn was close to King Cetshwayo 😂😂 he doesn't understand that all surname in AmaZulu has their own king's with Zulu the king of king's. He should teach us about his history and stop the obsession about Zulu history.
firstly there are people who are descendants of Zulu Malandela, eg Gumede, Ntombela, Biyela, Ndaba and many more so are those people not Zulu? since Zulu is their Great-Grand father how can you say zulu people don't exist?? my self i'm a Zulu by blood not by conversion so you are saying i don't exist?? Zulu kaMalandela Mageba kaZulu Ndaba ka Mageba xhoko kaNdaba(Xhoko son of Ndaba is the patriarch of Biyela) same with surnames like Gumede ( Gumede ka Zulu) Ntombela kaMalandela.... this is why you should learn about your lineage
@@mzwandileluthuli2857 firstly there are people who are descendants of Zulu Malandela, eg Gumede, Ntombela, Biyela, Ndaba and many more so are those people not Zulu? since Zulu is their Great-Grand father how can you say zulu people don't exist?? my self i'm a Zulu by blood not by conversion so you are saying i don't exist?? Zulu kaMalandela Mageba kaZulu Ndaba ka Mageba xhoko kaNdaba(Xhoko son of Ndaba is the patriarch of Biyela) same with surnames like Gumede ( Gumede ka Zulu) Ntombela kaMalandela.... this is why you should learn about your lineage
@@BongieBala firstly there are people who are descendants of Zulu Malandela, eg Gumede, Ntombela, Biyela, Ndaba and many more so are those people not Zulu? since Zulu is their Great-Grand father how can you say zulu people don't exist?? my self i'm a Zulu by blood not by conversion so you are saying i don't exist?? Zulu kaMalandela Mageba kaZulu Ndaba ka Mageba xhoko kaNdaba(Xhoko son of Ndaba is the patriarch of Biyela) same with surnames like Gumede ( Gumede ka Zulu) Ntombela kaMalandela.... this is why you should learn about your lineage
That's a global story among the people of Africa. Even today our people are being whitened even through new scientific means with artifical transplantation.
The way i know it. zulu was a clan like other kzn clans kzn. When shaka took over it became a big clan. colonizers then claimed everyone from kzn who spoke some type of dialects of zulu , as zulu. All kzn clans were identified as zulu by colonial britian to make their job easy to identify indigenous people. But i am open to different opinions
It is said Shaka forcefully and violently took over other clans & annexed them under his kingdom. What really influenced him to do that remains a mystery
@@richardohaletse7396 apparently what propelled him to do that is one of his forefathers had the same dream but it didn't come to pass. The same dream came back to Shaka and he drove with all his power.
@@sikhumbuzomthethwa201 Remember that the king is born and not chosen. Even though he grew up under the Mthethwa kingdom he always knew who he was. Also remember what did the Sanusi say whilst he was a you boy.
Even if the Zulu’s became a unite nation during the British period it’s still a nation. Many states and nations that we know today came to be within the last 6 to 500 years. Japan, Italy and many others were once small warring factions that only recently came to form a collective state. Even the British at one point was made up of small tribal regions that only started to unite and became a nation from the 1400’s.
To add on what you saying Dunn was born in a white settlement that did not become a colony until 1843.And John Dunn father was born in 1795 in Scotland. In 1820 he emigrated to South Africa and settled on the eastern Cape.
Shaka is older then John Dunn 😂😂 forgot to understand that each surname I'm KwaZulu has it own king , Zulu as king of all king's, he should teach us about his history... because he mentioned John Dunn who was close to King Cetshwayo 😂 weed
people who smoke too much weed are dangerous.
People who smoke weed and get on platforms with millions of viewers🙆
Uyagula vele lo. Akayekele lensangu ayihuqayo
Provide a counter argument so I (we) can learn. Insulting adds nothing.
Ignorance is bliss🤦🏾♂️
People perish because of lack of knowledge. Research before you talk
It's true,without britain there's no Zulu kingdom.
For us that dont speak Zulu, it would be nice to have subtitles
He's not speaking Zulu either 😅
@@Nawal_SA Oh my word! I don't understand why SA podcasters don't setup their videos so the world understands what they are trying to convey.
@@RodneyDouglas101 She lied
He does speak Zulu
I am Xhosa, I know what Zulu sounds like
Not to say he is wrong or right but him as a Xhosa man i would like to hear more about his own nation history. I am yearning for other tribes to tell their history. When Zulus talk about themselves some people get offended and say why is it that only Zulus have history. I am still waiting for a person who will come in and educate us about the history of other tribes in South Africa. We hear too much about Zulus and nothing about other tribes even from the people who come from those tribes don't want to talk about their tribes.
I do appreciate new information but i think we need to know that before there was Shaka, there was someone called Zulu. Shakas real name is Sgidi kaSenzangakhona no reference of Zulu father there. Zulu was a name of a person that existed generations before Shaka (Sgidi). I think he focused on Shaka without starting at the beginning of the lineage leading to Shaka to conclude that Zulu is a creation of the British empire.
In actual fact other clans under the Zulu kingdom still have chiefs in their own lands. Maybe we must look at how unity should have been under an older ancestor that is common to all Zulu people and not under Zulu. Just a thought.
There can't be smoke without fire
Well said.. Shaka United different king's under 1 kingdom, but you will find king Mthembu, king Mbatha, king Mthethwa, every surname has it own king
Why would they stab him when his telling the truth many mixed/coloureds come in different skin shades guyz there sre Indian/Black. ARAB/BLACK, DUTCH/BLACK KOISAN/Dutch, portuguese Isreali infact nations who came to Africa or wherever wars were fought Deals being made mixed/coloured children were being born. Thexwhole world these groups of peoplexwere born. Later depending who u marry yr children some became lighter. Some became darker etc
Penial X u so much for bringing our Brother here eho is finally telling Truths about past historys, the coloureds etc
Its just like today Chinese/Black mix see their children their mixed/coloured this group of people come in different colour shades when they go nd marry Blacks or white indian some children will hv darker skin some like your complexion Penuel. Very interesting.
But Shaka Zulu founder of Zulu Nation before John Dunn was born in fact this John Dunn was close to King Cetshwayo, why don't he teach us about his own history, the obsession about Zulu history is too much
Bafo It explains why us black South Africans isn't as dark as the rest of Africa, we are coconuts = black on the outside an white on the inside 😂
Lol. Not really. We are also far from the Equator😅 But seriously, people in countries like Mauritania and Eritrea are generally fairer than us.
Keep on lying to yourself 😅😅
We do you people keep lying to yourselves? You know Africa is diverse. We have a lot of people with fair complexion around the equator
😂😂😂 he missed one point, each surname has it own king in KwaZulu with Zulu as the king of kings who United all these surnames so that in future they stand against the enermy... Some people should teach us about their history, the obsession about Zulu history is too much, yet they don't teach us about their history 😔
I think my mind just melted 🥶🥶🥶🥶
Ave uwakhuluma amasimba wena
He’s right about Amalawu kwaXhosa though especially kwaBomvane. We have pure Xhosa families whose surnames are Nightingales etc some don’t really have English surnames but still belong there. It was always weird, I was kinda too young to comprehend that history tbh😂 But definitely not all of us, it’s just a very small number maybe less than 1%. I’m not sure why he was dismissive when Pen said it was a mixture.
With you theres nothing called amanga.
This man is telling the truth, our history didn't start with Shaka Zulu
if you truly are Zulu then you should know NkosinKulu
Mnguni kaNkosinKulu
Luzumana kaMnguni
Malandela kaLuzumana Zulu kaMalandela are the fathers of true bloodline Zulus so obviously we had history before Shaka
But being Zulu did not start with Shaka.And secondly he is distorting and conscruing information.Why does he not begin with xhosa does not exist as a nation he is not saying his information properlly
@@shayababibiyela6754It is how you say it the guy is justvtesting waters .He always gets the wrong tale
Sho Mara ekgcineni ubeyinkosi nd ayiyphathi I family
Ubhemile lo
My mother's grandfather is Dutch - Alan Boesak. I look black because they've been marrying black for generations.
That means you're black! With some European DNA.
But it would be insanity to call yourself white when u have a thousand more black ancestors than the white ones
Know thyself ✊️
This brother, he may smoke his weed but he is intelligent and knows what most do not know and is here today teaching us new things. I just researched and he is telling the truth
Am not educated broe but black kingdom was there before white settlers came to our land other thing that you must know every tribe there was a king
@@bekithembandebele9393but then the Khoisan have the oldest DNA in the world and they don't fall under Bantu. You see their writings in caves. So before Shaka Zulu where were the Zulus? Because the first people in SA were Khoi and San
@@JuicyJLee
Wrong.
Please differentiate between these 3:
San
Khoikhoi
Khoisan
@JuicyJLee khoisan are the indigenous tribe of South africa but we as nguni tribe came from Central Africa around the years of 1400. Mnguni was the king until the great grand son "Zulu" inherit the the kingdom he then formed Zulu tribe. In 1652 when Jan Van Riebik came to South Africa Zulu kingdom was already in existence. Not lamasimba akhulunywa ilomasaka
So they were all over South Africa or? @@JuicyJLee
John Robert Dunn came in the times of King Cetshwayo who reigned in 1856 and was made chief after being a close diplomatic and trade ambassador for the Zulus and Colonial Countries. He was given an ultimatum to disown the Zulu Kingdom after the wars and chose to align with Britain and was awarded land by the Colonies where he took wives and made them all Christians and exempted black people. The Zulu Kingdom though is older than King Cetshwayo's reign. What he is saying is true, we do have a lot of Black Mixed race Zulu people whom themselves have been denied the history of their forefathers and some who actually know it as its not that old but choose to ignore it just like how some Coloured Mixed race ignore their Black history and acknowledge only their White or Khoi/San/Nama history. But all the Zulu families of Dunn were Christians and grew their families in Missionaries and became Exempted Blacks/Zulus back then seen as collaborators of the colonial masters. This is the part he forgot to mention that the Zulu Kingdom started before the 1600s by Luzumana kaMnguni/Ngoni. But he is saying the truth and just lacks aligning or articulating what he wanted to say and misled people. Malandela kaLuzumana divided the kingdom into two clans, the Qwabe and the Zulu and this is when the Kingdom was officially born in the 1700s. This is the proper lineage outside insango. Sigidi kaSenzangakhona (King Shaka) only started his reign in 1816 of the Zulu clan after killing Sigujana kaSenzangakho to ascend to the already existing Zulu kingdom. Shaka then consolidated other kingdoms and chiefdoms into the Zulu kingdom through diplomacy or war. Hayi insango has no problem, the problem is the person who abuses it 🤣🤣🤣
Now we talking 🎉
He is full of envy that he resorts to manipulating knowledge to suit a false narrative. His own Xhosa people have bo Jantjies,Booi,Grootboom etc but doesn't recognize Xhosa people as whites. Idakiwe lenja, msunu ka Bob Marley.
@@sibongakonkedube869 🤣🤣🤣🤣 muxolele Bhuti usumgwazile kwazwela, insango lena
People just hate Zulu people for what we don't know..
Hai this guy uyabheda mannnn😅
I can confirm what his saying, its true many british at that time married and had kids with many African tribes.
Am sure he ruffled some feathers 😂
Lol too much
It's his nature he never misses on screwing things a bit
@@RastaAfricanGentleman you just hate the truth
You are everywhere crying
Go research the guys he mentioned, why are you so comfortable kangaka with lies? You only want to be the best?
You don't want to admit the truth about the ugly side of your tribe?
This is so painful that a man from the street can speak with our kingdom like this. He is not a renowned Afrikan historian, not an academic. I don’t know why he chooses to speak about the Zulu Kingdom when he is a Xhosa Rastafarian. Zulu Nation was never promoted by the British settlers. Britain tried everything to wipe away our kingdom, even today they are fighting to finish us as the Zulu Nation in South Africa. In one day on the 22nd of January 1879 British Army killed more than 10 000 Zulus at the Battle of Isandlwana. We nevertheless defeated them in that day. Before that war, we had many battles with both Afrikaners and British Armies. The likes of Blood River Battles, and many more before Isandlwana under King Dingane. Even nowadays in the 1990”s British propagandists caused a war in South Africa to get rid of the Zulus, about. 12000 Zulus died in the process. They failed to finish us. We fought a lot to keep a name of the province. They wanted to remove a name Zulu in the name of the province. We ended up having a compromised name of KwaZulu Natal. They changed the name of Radio Zulu to be Ukhozi FM to move away from this name. Yes we have a family of John Dunn in KZN, even today they are coloureds. They stay in Mangethe, Mandeni under INkosi Mathaba eMacambini. That clan cannot institute even 1% of the Zulus. We are 16 million as the Zulus in South Africa, Dunn family still uses that surname and they are not more than 200.
And there he is as high as ever saying Natal shows ukuthi the British made us, yahlanya lo he has no respect for the Zulu nation uthi we were defeated kuzo zonke izimpi, ay ulasta 😂😂😂
@@marciandlovuNatal is not even an English name, he is confused
@@marciandlovuNatal is not even an English name, he is confused
And Shaka was there before John Dunn guy 😔😂
You guys do not do your research, Shaka never fought with the English instead he partnered with them. Same thing happened eswatini when the dlamini partnered with the English to defeate and dethrone the Ncamane people from Swaziland
The guy said, 'PLEASE DON'T BELIEVE ME' GO RESEARCH.
DID YOU RERSEARCH ABOUT ROBERT.?
no need to research go to Zimbabwe , you find zulu descendant, or go to Hillbrow you will find Khumalo from zimbabwe
Kodwak u can't have a thousand black ancestors and yet say u are white because of one white ancestor that's dumb it's insanity
@@XolaniNdlovu-h6p according to African traditions... you are who your father is
Most Zulu people can be traced back to White people😂😂
AmaZulu just hate the truth
Most Zulus don't come from Robert dunn@@zibelebruciebenubrucieb8850
He try to say white man wrote our history, not that we didn't exist.
If you listen to him carefully you will hear that's not what his trying to say.
This is the same guy that said Afrikaans has mandarin in it 🤣😭he knows a lot of things but he also talks a lot of bullshit
Our problem as africans is that we think people who are articulate are smart clearly he should know the Zulu kingdom formed before any British member landed (although not by name until Shaka formalised it )in South Africa💀🤣 and to say Zulus are white because of one white ancestors is like saying. Boers are black because of one black ancestors that might’ve done something during the Anglo Boer war it really doesn’t hold any water if Zulus are so much as 30% white it wouldn’t matter because the majority of the genetic make up is African I can refute this guys argument using actual documented history
@@Januarieswealth. You speaking applicable sense my bro
He is sickening me.
@@Januarieswealth. Danko! Once you can express yourself we think you are a gem.
This man is poison, imagine how many young minds he is polluting. If he knew our history and respected our culture, he would not have become a Rastafarian, praising Haile Selassie, who explained vehemently to the founders of the Rastafarianism that he is not a deity incarnate, that he will be replaced like any other human and he belongs to the Coptic Church and must not be venerated in any way or shape. Kodwa ba fosta bamenza u God wabo ngenkani.
Legenge yensangu ave ithanda ukuhlaziya upayi into engekho
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Baqondisa into engenasdingo.. Iyabasanganisa ngempela lensangu yabo
😅😅😅Singama ngamla sonke mos la emzantsi
@@LindaSibeko-j2v😂😂😂ey kunzima
Angibhemi kodwa research if ungakholwa ... Don't blame weed blame your small brain
The problem is that our history as Southern Africans blacks was never written, it was shared verbally from generation to generation and that process spieces were added and the real truth was lost
That's the real problem b/c oral history can easily distorted to suit different interests.
The problem was that, with written history it was easy for invaders to lay their hands on it and learn things about our secrets(knowledge)as it was not meant for outsiders (non blacks) then.
So our elders resorted to verbal information,to some extent,even passing it through DNA or the all(consciousness) to protect it from non blacks.
Non blacks invaded Africa, went into our libraries, killed the elders and the griots, by so doing they were ensuring that future generations are left with no information at all.
With the information they so brutally stole, they went in different places to open their organisations( free masonry,Illuminati, brotherhood etc)
That is why most blacks know nothing about who they are, where they come from, and most importantly about their history!
So let's keep on learning, if it resonate with you, good. You can always rely on common sense! Peace
These type of conversations happen in Centane, Eastern Cape, in the context of history of amaXhosa. It brings uncomfortable facts and distortions in narrative that seeks to erase the real truth.
But nje asibona abelungu ubhemile lo
Hhayi Ras qhubeka uzibhemele.
It's amazing how stupid we are siyaphikisa without checking the facts the brother said do your own research silima then you can talk
😂😂😂 siyaphikisa, siyathuka but we don't have facts 🤷
Lomjita uyahlanya nawe futhi uyahlanya mawuvumelana naye
@@wandilesithole3710 wena ongahlanyi khuluma silalele. Lithini iqiniso?
@@MjoliQubulashe The truth is that the Zulu people come from Mnguni. The Nguni people are part of the Bantu people. The Bantu people moved from Central Africa down South. While other Bantu people settled in other parts in the south to form their own tribes, the others continued further down south and settled in some parts of the land in a Country we now call "South Africa".
😹😹😹🍻
He's right, Zulu is a family and they became the dominant clan during Imfecane concuring other Nguni clans.
Zulu started as a family but when they conquered a Nation just as many other Nations
Yabona lempi yamathembu namazulu ihlanyisa abantu bakithi
@@Biiee-tn9gq It's true aniwona amaZulu
@@zibelebruciebenubrucieb8850 ukudelelwa yizizwana sekwaba yinto encane ngiyabona
@@Biiee-tn9gq yes... ngoba your competition is OTHER black people
You'll do anything to look dominant to a W man.
What his saying about Robert Dunn is correct I learnt this a long time ago, the Benny family as well
Benny McCarthy is a Zulu man, his mom is a Dlamini and his dad is a Makhathini.
Yes the Dunn history is true but I can't agree that those less than 50 descendants out of 100s of thousands of black people at the time, define what it is to be Zulu. It just means that a few Zulu today carry those white gene but that's really all it is
Well....I just happen to be an absolute direct dependant of John Dunn...and he had 49 wives...my grandfather,Leonard Arthur Dunn,being the very last born child...in 1895...the year John Dunn died...and yes,we are many...of all shapes and colours...some chocolate, with curly hair,some blonde,straight hair and blue eyes...some with blonde curly hair...some very dark,with very curly hair...but we are family....😂
@@SipheSithole100% correct. It's the same argument that some people make claiming all Tsongas are Zulus because of uSoShangane. Soshangane didn't create Tsongas, he found them an existing nation.
Uyihlabe esikhonkosini @@SipheSithole
"Do not believe me, do your own research" I like that. I went quickly to check John Robert Dunn.
Wat did u find?
@@fazelsoza3406 Exactly what he said about John Robert Dunn, him being given Zulu wives and making a lot of kids with them. Check it out because I can't tell you everything, it's been a while.
Brother did not lie
AmaZulu are scared of finding out who they really are
Zoll is Dangerous....this man is high
🤣🤣🤣😜😜
Definitely
😂😂😂 Very high
💀
His stoned this one 😂😂😂😂😂🤥🥴🤢🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🤮🤮🤮🤮😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵😵🤤🤤🥱🤒weed is very much dangerous 😂😂😂😂
Someone who actually knows history
😂😂😂He's lying about ama Zulu, maybe he knows I history yakwa Xhosa 😂😂
Myb to the Xhosas not to the Zulu's
He said FACTS, the Truth Hurts as usual 😅
@@khayablack3305 what facts am Zulu I'm not a white person myb you cause your surname is black
IT IS A FACT...MY MOTHER uMAZULU, A WOMAN FROM EBUKHOSINI, KNOWS IT...THEY KNOW OF THIS FACT.
IT'S JUST THAT NOT MANY PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF IT.
YOU CAN ALSO FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF..ASK ABOUT USOMTSEWU & JOHN ROBERT DUNN & THEIR INTERACTIONS IN THE ZULU ROYAL FAMILIES...
OR JUST SIMPLY GOOGLE IT.
This mansangwini man is narrating the history of Coloureds in KwaZulu, so many are found in places like Wentworth, Mangethe, Tugela. Zulus was already an established nation before John Dunn a.k.a Jontoni by Zulus. This man should stop spreading lies that will be consumed as the truth by idiots like him ezingazi lutho nge history yakwa zulu. Uqamba namanga enjalo uth uJon'toni uSomtswewu🚮
Many coloured children in Zimbabwe nd South Africa infact African continent were told nd raised to say they are Black they r just light skin from some of the ancestors genes they had to say that to avoid being austrasized by their Black familys md people so the children did as they were told. I have a cousin who went through that. The storys are deep. I bet many Koisans fell in2cthese brackets
Many of these children have coarse hair nd some a little finer. Tom Jones went through that people adking him if his mixed race he finally took dna nd whala his mixed. This is deep we spend time fighting hateing eachother when we are all One. Every Race has its own traits bc its embedded in yr dna. Seriously pse keep these vloggs going with this our smart informative Bro. Blessings keep them coming
Uyasidakelwa wena.
😂😂😂😂
Shaka yingamla😅
@user-ci9fe6lr3t 😂😂😂his real name was shark😂😂, udakiwe lo
Olunye uhlobo lwe nsangu lolu
@@curiousk4083 Shake😅
A nation a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory. The Zulu has history from way before colonisation what in the world is he talking about
Him saying Amazulu are whites was total bullshit , he could’ve said SOME house hold have whites genes not ALL
Nami I was confused as fuck. One royal family member sleeps with a white man and the whole population inherited his white genes…
Absolutely true. I agree
😂😂,,so robert dunn is our ancestor befor dunn there was no black people mmmmm insangu guys
Exactly, he sounded very diluted. I used to trust him but now after this. He sounded like destructor.
Its hit the mighty pride of Zulu given by British
The guy is correct. Some of these Kingdoms & Chiefdoms were consolidated because the colonist & the missionary wanted permanent leaders who were going to serve as their contacts when they visit. ..Professor Ntsebeza from UCT & other scholars from SA & overseas who write extensively about land do alude to these facts in their papers.. The journals of the missionaries & other writings from the 1800s also mention this 😮. All these chiefdoms & kingdoms need serious reviews
Very wrong
But Zulu kingdom was there before whites came. And other kingdoms were there before whites came
This is a load of bollocks.
@bakoena82 Enjoy the fables while they still last. Deep down, you know the Truth
Shaka sent his delegates to meet kingdom
Please do t believe me, go research! If you haven’t done that! Keep quiet 🤫
Lol it funny because John Dunn was born after Shaka Zulu died , so he was close to King Cetshwayo, to add to that he had 117 children, Shaka Zulu had 30 000 army , 😂😂😂 all this happened before John Dunn.. so the guy smoke too much weed
John Dunn had 300 black wives and one European Wife
And she was pisses 😂😂😂 about it
🙆🏾♀️
Same with the Moyo people of Zimbabwe who are actually male line Portuguese.
I tried looking for evidence.i can't find it.can you share the source
The Zulu Kingdom it been there before white people,The Zulu nation even fought against British.That why the White people respect Amazulu because we know how to stand our ground...🎯
The Zulu people were in Africa before the whites, but the whites were in western cape long before any black tribe. I exclude the koi and San people who there when the whites arrived so for any black tribe to claim South Africa belongs to them is false , they have ownership in a way to land northwards of the line in the sand and the boers ownership south of the line in the sand on the day the two met on that faithful day. The whites colonised the original inhabitants the koi and San they were there when they arrived and the blacks ( Zulu ) colonised the various weaker Bantu tribes that were in their path when they moved south . Those are the ugly facts and true history.
@@Buildinc1you forget about the Pygmy?
@@m0t10n80 yup , they were likely also there before the Zulu invasion
I'm always happy to see Penuel smile. He rarely does, but his smile is magical.
He's mr know it all... When you buffle such people all they do is smile
The family of Dunn are in Plettenbergbay and they are coming from KZN.interestings.All coloured are not mix race.Most of them are purely indigenous Khoi or San.Apartheid put them all as coloured
Simple thing is why are Zulu's and Sotho's called nations but others are called tribes. There is no khoi san Nation because this form of monarchy came with the British.
No the Zulu and the Sotho and Pedi were a forced to be reckoned with they beat the British in many battles although they lost the wars hence they were rewarded respect from the British hence when they took ZULU LAND they didn’t use Zulu people to do the slave work (they declined) but they used indentured slaves from India that’s responsible for the current Indian population then they turned Lesotho into a British protectorate meaning mshoeshoe could still rule over Lesotho region and the Pedi beat the Boers and British with Skoekoene (name might be spelled wrong) although the Swati ended up selling them out that’s another strory then their history as a nation was overshadowed by the Boers who turned Pedi land into transvaal then later expanded into now modern day Gauteng (lots of holes in my story but that’s the summary)
This man is a troll. There were different nations in this area called KwaZulu & they were united by the Zulu clan. Hence, KwaZulu. OMlotshwa & oMakhanya couldn't be European by the furthest stretch of the imagination. Mayepa is Sotho. Tembe were a Tsonga clan also united by Zulu. Eswatini also had different nations & clans but were united by Dlamini, Nkosi, Ngwane & Mswati.
This man is dangerous & leading people astray. Without Britian, Zulu history would still exist just as Maasai history would still exist without German occupation of their land.
You were brainwash its like saying Africa its nothing without Americans 😂😂😂😂
Shaka kaSenzangakhona became king and created the Zulu kingdom in 1816 and the first British settlers arrived in KwaZulu in 1820, way after Shaka was already king 🤷🏿♂️ Nangu umuntu edakwa🤞🏾
Imisebenzi yensango
Thev1720 Settlers landed in what they named the Cape Colony. That's why out there we (Xhosa) called ourselves "abasekoloni"There were no 1820 Settlers in Natal.
@@nomagcisacawe3297Barthalomue Dias and Vas goda gama who were Portuguese found Port Natal(Natalie) but 17 hundreds Britain took over the port of Natal
@@sikhumbuzomthethwa201 Dias circumnavigated the Cape and went up the RSA coastline until he landed in Mocambique. On that voyage he would never have avoided passing thru Natal. Even the name Natal is attributed to him.
@nomagcisacawe3297 Portuguese were here in Thongaland(kzn) in 14 88
Facts!! The colonists gave most of Africa their tribal identities. This is true for most of Africa and most of the Native American tribes as well. And you see how proud African people are of their tribe. The yt man named you. You don’t even know it.
There's nothing wrong with what this man is saying. What he should do is to substantiate his assertions with facts. That's all we're asking for.
Why ppl are so obsess abt Zulus..Zulu this,Zulu that..
Cant they talk abt other nations or culture hhay mani...obvious history is long we knw that..are they trying to degrade Zulus or what hhay mani!
Why so many people makes it as if Zulu kingdom began with King Shaka🤔
Ba high nabo, njengalo leli lasta 😂😂
Yes it became a kingdom because of him, prior to that, the Zulu were just a Nguni clan just like the Ndwander and Mthethwa. It became a kingdom after Shaka started invading the neighbouring smaller tribes.
Mr stop misleading people if you don't accept it that you don't know where the Zulu come from stop lying
Pen you cannot condon this on your show I think this guy must be summoned to the king of the Zulu so that he can elaborate further with regards to the remarks he is uttering
For what?😂
What is freedom of speech, or you're hallucinating
Thats bs
So you want to embarass your king that he be taught history by a commoner? Don't be like that go do your research he just told you if don't believe research.
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@@tautebellojames7661but Senzangakhona, Shaka were there before John Dunn guy 😂😂 John Dunn was close to King Cetshwayo.. and he doesn't understand that every surname under Zulu monarchy has it own king with Zulu the king of kings. So Mthembu, Mthethwa, Mbatha, etc have their own kings
Smoking weed, wearing funny looking clothes, doek, not cutting your facial hair… doesn’t make wise… this oke is just spewing nonsense
Mr Pen this is the best episode ever, I was literally taking notes for my own research, I loved it ✊
there are people who are descendants of Zulu Malandela, eg Gumede, Ntombela, Biyela, Ndaba and many more so are those people not Zulu? since Zulu is their Great-Grand father how can you say zulu people don't exist?? my self i'm a Zulu by blood not by conversion so you are saying i don't exist?? Zulu kaMalandela Mageba kaZulu Ndaba ka Mageba xhoko kaNdaba(Xhoko son of Ndaba is the patriarch of Biyela) same with surnames like Gumede ( Gumede ka Zulu) Ntombela kaMalandela.... tthis is why you should learn about your lineage
@@shayababibiyela6754 but even before Zulu or xhosa we came from East Africa, so what language did we speak? And what will we called because colonizers gave us the names Zulu and xhosa. Unfortunately I might not be xhosa as I was told by my parents 🤣🤣😂😂😂
@@bongani_menze my point is maybe colonizers gave you the name xhosa grouping you into a tribe you don't belong to .. what i am saying is that, that is not the case for all of us.. some of us are Zulu by Blood because we are the decedents of a man called Zulu. so maybe others were grouped into us but we were not given that name by whites
@@shayababibiyela6754 yeah you make a good point, I hear you
@@shayababibiyela6754you're correct mfowethu. It's more like us the Bhaca people, we're called Xhosas yet we're not.
I see people on the comment section who doesn't know history, John Dunn was a big friend of king cetswayo
Ngaze nga phoxeka. I watched this man speak intelligently on Castle Milk Stout’s podcast … this is such a sharp turn to that. You can’t tell me that an entire Zulu nation only began 3 or 4 generations ago. And that it is white??? 😅😅😅😅
Ubhema kakhulu insangu lo leyaseSwazini useyahlanya, ingwanekwane yodwa le he actually believe his lies and confusion!!!
Ntsangu....only helps people Born with Intelligence. Lesser minds should not smoke the Queen of Plants, it will only confuse them.
This Brother is a Wise Man, all respect to Him.
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Queen of plants🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
@mishaguevara did u also smoke coz wow 😂😂😂😂😂
Very deep stuff here. Difficult on the ear, shocking to the heart, but makes sense to the brain.
The Zulu nation is less than 200 years old. Who were ‘Zulus’ before Shaka Zulu? Why has there been such a strong historical interest on the Zulu nation by the British? Had Shaka not emerged, what tribe would we call Zulu’s today?
This guy is KING i would love to meet him someday...Check it out... What i truly appreciated was how refugees came to Xhosa land... From history i got from the families around Eastern Cape and Western Cape... Xhosa had accommodated many tribes with in their own land... Thats why till this day there's land of Xhosa in Kwa Zulu Natal...
You are talking about the border between KwaZulu-Natal and Eastern Cape 😮
Uphambene even Umzikhulu is not Xhosa land, Xhosa came as a result of mating between Ngunis and Koisans,
@@Mmiseli enkosi ngokuphambana
Sorry as far as I now history. When theXOSA people inhabited this land. The Hesipwa (my indigenous heritage) the chochokwa, koraner, San,koi koi and other aboriginal people where here before the Xosa and Zulu people.
@@manyananihlwatika726 what is a King?
So u could have a thousand black ancestors kodwa ube umlungu because of the genes of one white man?
And klento ya Robert dunn clans don't come from the women so there's only one clan yakhe and yes it does exist
Atleast someone knows the truth about Zulu's, they are just a family
No they were a family until they conquered other clans there's a Zulu family and there's a Zulu Nation
John Dunn died on 5 August 1895 of dropsy and heart disease and was buried at Emoyeni in the Colony of Natal,[3]: 64 having married 48 wives and fathered 117 children. He was survived by 23 wives including Catherine, besides 33 sons and 46 daughters. Catherine died on 27 January 1905, at age 72. All of Dunn's dependents were settled on a 40 km2 reserve near the Tugela River. Their ownership of the land was confirmed by the John Dunn Land Distribution Acts of 1902 and 1935.[2]
Thanks for this history
I have a friend who's surnamed Dunn and he once mentioned John Dunn as his progenitor
But the first Zulu King, Malandela lived in the 1600s.....so your research confirms nothing.
I guess 2024 is all about the Zulu Nation. Ay kubi!😂
Not all these people coming here to talk about Zulu people. Ay bakwethu. Evolve or die...nathi we found a strategy that worked for us back then. There is a Zulu Nation now thats all that matters.
Lapho they don't talk about their history 😂😔😔 they should teach us about their history
Udakwa yinsangu lomuntu, uzodukisa abantu 😂😂😂😂😂
Truth bra sihlukene bafo silwa zodwa 😂😂 and different kings like umkhanyakude Untembe like my suename is ndimande which they were running for king shaka for disrespectful at him my clan name Gcwensa,dumisa,Nkalane and Mzululwini
And if it was true, what difference does it really make
No no the British came in 1824 which was known as natal and king Shaka was still alive and at that time he had already established the Zulu Kingdom,he had fought many battles to build the Zulu empire
Hence Queen Elizabeth always asked mandela about Buthelezi
The plight plight of Zulu indepence was more known than the anc.The initial liberation of the zulu from britian and succision from south africa as a country was more internationally know hence the anc was formed initially by the Zulu hence prixley ka Seme was sent by the Zulu Royal family to go abroad.Then Later Mangosutho appointed as Prime Minister of the zulu nation.Oliver Tambo and Joe Modise wre shocked abroad when Mangosutho got a standing ovasion as he represented hence some members of the anc had to reduce Buthelezi's strength as thry felt sidelined hence his betrayal by Oliver Tambo and. They felt a strong Zulu presence within the anc.To save south africas economy uthelezi was favoured to becime President if South Africa.Wich alot of non zulu anc members were opposed to it and approached and convinced america to support the anc and not Mangosutho Initially both Britain and America were in favour of Mangosutho especially Britain but later britain helt back as America supportd the anc.Most of what people think thry know is not true.There are no xhosa people its a buch of seperate clans thatvwere grouped by the British xhosa is not a nation its a british arrangement .Similar to Batswana the mapedinbecame a nation after mzilikazi lost there war he was incharge of huge areas lin limpopo mpumalanga gauteng touching portion of the north west he was a leader of a small clan barote who origimate from betweennzimbabwe and zambia ,the basotho as a nation where formed a bit later after shaka had already mobilised his people so to say the zulu are the youngest is a political.ply or laziness and peoole must syop following mapinga snd the faje king bhungane those a gaslighter and some of these fake historians are fundef by ngo's.The shona was never a nation just a grouping classified as the ethnic peoole found in zimbabwe by Mzilikazi so the shona as a nation are younger that the zulu even.Idrologies can twist .Xhosa history is basef on fabrications and bapedi git guns from the boers and some of their groups assisted thr nritish in only one major war wich was the voirtrekker ndebele war.Those vetwern mapefi and the europeans were mini battles also amongs the different xhosa clans.Shaka was a monarch you cannot compare his leader shief to that of leaders of small clans.This guy needs to inform himself and understand linguistic and stop fabricating history to suite his people.Shaka was the chosen one.Guys remember most of thr information on shows like penuel is personsl opinion not factvesoecially informarion on the social media and youtube channels.And people have a way of depicting information in a manner of being bias and making assumtions to boost their egos.Prople very well thos guest wa pota
Were you there, when Mandela was asked, Niyathanda ukuzifaka hhaybo
@@kgaogelonkadimeng988 know your History don't be emotional buddy
Exactly!!! FACTS
The guy is supporting Oranio yet he try to criticise Kzn independent 😂😂😂😂
Kzn can be independent from SA nobody is stopping them
Guys i love your podcast and i am a top fan, please do incorporate English subtitles where isiZulu or any other language is used knowing that there are other Africans that are watching the podcasts.
Arr we ignoring Facts this brother is dropping just because he smoke weed... Or we feel uncomfortable with what he saying... Lets not take ourselves that low
Some of you cannot even talk about 3 generations of their families
From there great grand parents
When they want viewers use AmaZulu
Lo uyahlanya futhi angekeke esasizakala. Zulu nation was only colonized around the late 1800s when whites arrived in the SA in 1652. What does he think was happening between 1652 and when King Shaka died?
I realised this Truth after reading up on The Rise and Fall of the Xhosa Kingdom
Obviously the Zulu nation is about 200 years
Yey bakhiti amanga ahlaza lawa! … isizwe sakwa Zulu kade sikhona before isilo uShaka in fact the name AmaZulu is misinterpreted it is originally ABAZULU which means “them who are for/with Zulu … why ??? Because of umlando waka Zulu no Qwabe abahlukanisa isizwe esaziwa ngokhut amaNguni that were led by uMalandela because he wasn’t a Zulu king but a Nguni king , uShaka wanted to rebuild and reinstate that chiefdom of his forefather by forcefully uniting the demi clans that existed within amaNguni so lento ekhulunwa lana ayaziwa bakwethu
Mina nje angnaskhathi seyngane encane who probably high I worry about the relay of false information on such big platforms
Its true. There was never a Zulu nation but a tribe with induna but the British wanted a brutes in southern Africa to pamper, manipulate and used against other tribes that's why the Zulus can only attributed to violence, wars and fights.
46 wives "whats happening here!!" while im struggling with only 1 gf
brooooooo🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
someone told me when you smoke weed you will see things after watch this, i believe it true people see things when they smoke weed
Shaka is also white no Zulu 😅
@@LindaSibeko-j2vlol yet Shaka is older than the John Dunn this weed smoker is talking about, the John Dunn was close to King Cetshwayo 😂😂 he doesn't understand that all surname in AmaZulu has their own king's with Zulu the king of king's. He should teach us about his history and stop the obsession about Zulu history.
Its true my grand mother who gave birth to my Dad was a coloured portugues but she get married to black man and gave birth to my dad he was black
I just researched and he is actually telling history and is there in the internet
But Shaka is older then the John Dunn
@elphimasinga7420 who wrote that on a internet?????
Penuel this guy will cost you viewership, he smoked too much weed before coming to the podcast
😂😂😂
he is right bro don't be offended
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The episode got 104k views in 3 days already BKS….. what are you talking about man? Please chill.
Give thanks
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True.AmaLawu is not a derogatory term.
hahaha, it so funny when someone says don't believe what I'm saying ,do your owe research and people still comment based on emotions
So the was no Zulu before Dunn?
firstly there are people who are descendants of Zulu Malandela, eg Gumede, Ntombela, Biyela, Ndaba and many more so are those people not Zulu? since Zulu is their Great-Grand father how can you say zulu people don't exist?? my self i'm a Zulu by blood not by conversion so you are saying i don't exist?? Zulu kaMalandela Mageba kaZulu Ndaba ka Mageba xhoko kaNdaba(Xhoko son of Ndaba is the patriarch of Biyela) same with surnames like Gumede ( Gumede ka Zulu) Ntombela kaMalandela.... this is why you should learn about your lineage
@@shayababibiyela6754Mxoleleni bo, usuthi
All nations are formed by certain families it's an idea udakwa insangu lembuzi.
But that's exactly what he's saying 🤷.
You can't be uMandlanduna ujike ube uZulu
Zulu does not mean your surname is Zulu Shaka could have chosen any other name but he chose his surname does not mean our ancestors are from Zulu
@@mzwandileluthuli2857 firstly there are people who are descendants of Zulu Malandela, eg Gumede, Ntombela, Biyela, Ndaba and many more so are those people not Zulu? since Zulu is their Great-Grand father how can you say zulu people don't exist?? my self i'm a Zulu by blood not by conversion so you are saying i don't exist?? Zulu kaMalandela Mageba kaZulu Ndaba ka Mageba xhoko kaNdaba(Xhoko son of Ndaba is the patriarch of Biyela) same with surnames like Gumede ( Gumede ka Zulu) Ntombela kaMalandela.... this is why you should learn about your lineage
@@BongieBala firstly there are people who are descendants of Zulu Malandela, eg Gumede, Ntombela, Biyela, Ndaba and many more so are those people not Zulu? since Zulu is their Great-Grand father how can you say zulu people don't exist?? my self i'm a Zulu by blood not by conversion so you are saying i don't exist?? Zulu kaMalandela Mageba kaZulu Ndaba ka Mageba xhoko kaNdaba(Xhoko son of Ndaba is the patriarch of Biyela) same with surnames like Gumede ( Gumede ka Zulu) Ntombela kaMalandela.... this is why you should learn about your lineage
Hhayi, cha!
He says there wouldn't be a Zulu Kingdom if it wasn't for the British 😮
He explained how iNkosi uShaka built the Zulu Nation and still went on to say that 🤦🏾♂️
That's a global story among the people of Africa. Even today our people are being whitened even through new scientific means with artifical transplantation.
The way i know it. zulu was a clan like other kzn clans kzn. When shaka took over it became a big clan. colonizers then claimed everyone from kzn who spoke some type of dialects of zulu , as zulu. All kzn clans were identified as zulu by colonial britian to make their job easy to identify indigenous people. But i am open to different opinions
You're telling the truth.
It is said Shaka forcefully and violently took over other clans & annexed them under his kingdom. What really influenced him to do that remains a mystery
@@richardohaletse7396 apparently what propelled him to do that is one of his forefathers had the same dream but it didn't come to pass. The same dream came back to Shaka and he drove with all his power.
@MjoliQubulashe, but Shaka, everything he knows was thought king Dingiswayo because he grew up under Mthethwa's kingdom
@@sikhumbuzomthethwa201 Remember that the king is born and not chosen. Even though he grew up under the Mthethwa kingdom he always knew who he was. Also remember what did the Sanusi say whilst he was a you boy.
Just checked the Robert Dunn guy and there he is with 48 wifes and 117 children's.
"Am a Nigerian, but this Man is teaching and I swear, am learning..
Even about the DNA explanation.
You have to be high on drugs in order to believe that rubbish
@dariusKnight you will also find that "all"to most of the present leaders in Africa has (by design) great great grandfathers that came from Europe,,.
They use the statue of Henry Cele as Shaka Zulu just think about it befor believing the history writen by the colonizer.
"Do not believe me, do your own research".
Powerful.
Even if the Zulu’s became a unite nation during the British period it’s still a nation. Many states and nations that we know today came to be within the last 6 to 500 years. Japan, Italy and many others were once small warring factions that only recently came to form a collective state. Even the British at one point was made up of small tribal regions that only started to unite and became a nation from the 1400’s.
ukuthi there's no Zulu Kingdom without whites. yinsangu le eyenza ucabange ukuthi ungasihlaza kanjani lesizwe sikaZulu.
I like how he says "do your research" 😂🤦
I once said this and I was attacked.... The English don't called themselves Windsors
The Windsors are Germans. Their real name is Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. They only took on the name Windsor in 1917
Bro smoked a lot and His spirit ended up half naked, the brain only half of it was functional and the other was dead sleeping. 😖
Shaka Zulu was born 1787 and died 22 September 1828 Robert Dunn was born 1834 and 5 August 1895.
Why are you even entertaining him.
So Dunn had more Zulu children than Shaka
To add on what you saying Dunn was born in a white settlement that did not become a colony until 1843.And John Dunn father was born in 1795 in Scotland. In 1820 he emigrated to South Africa and settled on the eastern Cape.
Don't worry about it.
It's all washed out of the bloodline.
Zulu people was always beautiful
@@philapaul2389 😂😂😂😂
Cry Harder
I still not believe how on earth they forget about Dingaan who won the fight in Sandlwana not Shaka who was friend of settlers
Wow, Abba, is a fountain of Knowledge, great historian and philosopher etc, reminds me of the great credo mutwa.
Lo udakiwe yaz
The danger of smoking weed is that your beliefs becomes undisputed truth to ourself no matter how bizarre they can be.
Weed is in any case better than alchohol it is food for thought and good for the body
@@zephaniarutlokwana2891oh yea 😂😂
Shaka is older then John Dunn 😂😂 forgot to understand that each surname I'm KwaZulu has it own king , Zulu as king of all king's, he should teach us about his history... because he mentioned John Dunn who was close to King Cetshwayo 😂 weed