Frieren Episode 20's Necessary Killing for Ultimate Power...
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- Опубликовано: 25 янв 2024
- Both Denken and Wirbel were much more complex characters than I first thought and with episode 20 we can see why so many will kill when this is the reward...
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In a world when any spell can be yours, what is and isn't necessary killing gets harder to differentiate...See my full uncut live reaction to the episode over on Patreon www.patreon.com/BrandonReviews
A thing about this exam that I like is that everyone has the resolve to kill if necessary, but none of them are actually psychopathic killers. Even Ubel who seems the most eager to kill has so far only been shown killing bandits in self defense, which even Kraft mentioned in a previous episode that he can’t fault her for that.
the "judge" will kill ubel if she's actually a killers. not the exam judge. but the title judge.
I think because Fern is trained to be a demon slayer. Her cold face and deceptive words are all to achieve victory. I love when she has that blank look and starts flexing on fools.
Fern's team easily breezed passed the other party. Denken said it best, "the young are too hot-blooded."
Oh yes you should not mess with Fern which that other team did learn
Basically I think it was about making your own luck. Finding and catching the bird is impossible without luck, but Frieren had a way to increase luck and so did Fern.
Fern did not have luck. She is a bird magnet shown in different Episodes starting with Episode 2.
@@Airwave2k2 lol there's no such a thing as bird magnet. fern did have luck and ubel said so in this episode, they ran into a nest of birds and frieren had taught fern the spell to catch a bird so she used it. frieren was the only test-taker who didn't rely on luck at all and instead made up a whole plan to catch the bird.
@@lisakulig3140 Yes it is said they stumbled over a nest and caught one. But even without that coincidence Fern still is a bird magnet. There are a couple times birds are sitting on top of Fern or close to her.
@@Airwave2k2 again there's no such thing as bird magnet lol, I'm pretty sure the scenes you're mentioning fern was just meditating or whatever and random birds landed on top of her. Stile are a different thing, fern just got lucky to ran into one.
@@lisakulig3140 Ah so you've taken it literally as in "bird magnet" would be a spell. Na i said that in figuratively speech.
I'm starting to feel like Frieren could actually fail the test and it's all up to Fern. One first class mage in the party is enough to continue the journey, right?
Glasses guy was pretty crafty as well, considering he had a clone/illusion on the whole time.😅 The guy who turned flowers into metal shavings' ability was pretty sick as well.
Can't wait till next ep.
Trust me, glasses guy not just 'pretty crafty', he's a 5d chess player. Man played nearly everyone with his tricks
@@ghostofkyiv2481 foreshadowing
If I could have any spell it would be a spell to make Frieren episodes one hour long, I can't get enough!
Y’know putting aside the other things in this episode-today’s episode actually made me laugh a few times! Lol like the bird casually being spotted after everything is said and done (and Wirbel’s teammates’ interactions with him) and just how the bird is so easily caught by his abilities and idk the way it casually falls and just lays there-had me giggling 😂
Just one little comment. Ubel already knows Fern didn’t kill that girl, that’s why she called her a good liar as soon as the guy left
5:30 remember that she doesn't even care about the title, she is only participating cuz Fern told her to
You know, when I first watched this episode, I thought it was kind of slow-paced relative to others, with lots of characters talking about fighting when they're supposed to be actually fighting. But as I thought back, I realized, no, these characters are well aware that they're supposed to be fighting and are consciously choosing to talk instead. Most notably Wirbel, Frieren, and Denken. And I guess also Fern, who could have taken a more violent approach to rescuing Uebel from Wirbel and chose not to.
What I love about this arc is different from what we get in other arcs. In the Aura Arc, we get a first real look at how humanoid demons work in the world of Frieren, and it's fascinating, as well as some world building, some wonderful action, and some Frieren backstory.
This arc has a bit of all of that (minus the demon analysis), but the best thing it does is introduce us to some wonderful, complex characters. None of them will be supplanting any of our party members for plot importance, but most of them are well-rounded, interesting, and fairly unique, not just within this story, but compared to characters in other works as well. The author of Frieren really has a knack for doing things just enough like other writers that you're lulled into a comforting sense of the ordinary, but there's always a bit of the unexpected to shake things up and make things memorable.
I swear, the more of this I see the more I love it, and I'm already an up-to-date weekly reader of the manga.
Ubel spells are basically Sukuna’s slashes,that is just so cool and fits how brutal she is. I wonder if Wirbel’s spell can be broken by a physically gifted monster like Stark,maybe that’s the one disadvantage of his spell,if the being is strong enough without mana they can break free
imagine if she has the dimension slash and Sukuna's domain.she'd be slaughtering the world😂
if she has the dimension slash she could cut through those shields too
When this arc began, I was unsure whether the story could accommodate so many new characters. However, I love how every character is being fleshed out and feels real.
They did a great job of showing the power escalation of mage's in this universe - especially describing the first class mage's.
I can't wait for next week's episode. Thanks again for the analysis 😊
This magic tournament arc is incredible.
Ubel against Wirbel was cool to watch. She has slashing attacks that you can't predict and it was doing quite a bit of damage and then Wirbel caught them in a cool spell but if he isn't watching their whole body it's not very useful but in a one on one it definitely is like a cheek mate spell.
Unfortunately for him Fern is a great mage and also a great liar that even Ubel was snickering at her attempt.
I almost thought she did kill his party member but she just lied her way out of it and it was really clever play.
There's so much to discuss about this episode like Damon against Frieren and what that fight is gonna look like.
That guy was cold in the last episode but in this one he is much more collected and not as insane as I thought he'd be... His partner though... He's insane... He wants to kill 2 kids for his own selfish gains but like the thumbnail says power indeed does corrupt the soul.
That wish is very tempting to take with a spell of whatever you can probably think of.
Frieren would definitely be interested if it was the old her.
Don't feel like writing this for too long but I really loved the episode as always since you can't really pick a favourite episode but this arc is insane thus far.
Great review Brandon.
I think this changes the significance of what Denken did last episode. When they found the dead team, he checked the blood first to determine if they were still alive. Had they been alive, I suspect he would have risked triggering the monster bird's trap. But since they were dead It just wasn't worth it to risk his team's lives. Just a matter of practicality. I'm pretty sure he would also have intervened had they walked on that team being attacked. As Denken puts it, the title isn't worth human lives.
Denken had a good teacher, he learned everything from someone who doesn't act really human
They messed up, Frieren can't be motivated by legendary magic.
now if it was a spell to make the dishes wash themselves she might just slaughter everyone that gets close.
she can have that spell, she can have any spell she wants. it's the perfect motivation she just won't put the lives of her companions in danger to get it cause she's developed since her first party
@@AHBrandonReviews yeah I love the development shown so far. Makes me wonder how she'll handle the old guy, unless the girls can handle it on their own I assume she'll have to beat him fast to help them. I don't think she'll kill him but i do hope she does something cool.
That would be fern’s dream spell since she’s the one who is probably responsible for dishes
Next week I imagine we might see a sakuga fest with the battle. I will say this has to be the best produced anime in the past few years. You would be hard pressed to find an issue in the animation. It was interesting when we learned more about Wirbel. Genau intentionally rigged the exam with those damn birds lol. Sense, the other exam proctor, calls him out on it despite him rationalizing how luck and harsh conditions are necessary for first class mages. Ubel is an interesting character and the characters are deeper than expected. There’s a lot of unnecessary killing discussion here. And I appreciate the series for being dark and real without being edgy per se. It strikes a good balance. And the story will never have characters over stay their welcome or they will have them stay for however necessary they are. I can see this exam being the rest of this cour although I wonder who will reach first class. Presumably both Frieren and Fern should although I can see only Fern becoming first class with Frieren not caring since it’s just a title. Also the first class exam is definitely a scheme set up by Serie lol. Also I think it’s interesting to note how Ehre did mention something about her grandfather also being in this exam too
I love how Fern just pulled the magic equivalent of a machine gun on Ehre.
Maschine gun was against Lügner. Here she showed of the Gatling gun.
Serie. I'm a first class mage now.
I want a spell that makes my hair grow back.
No, I don't need a spell that makes chicks want me.
If I get my hair back, I won't need that spell.
That would be a legendary spell
It might not have been completely lucky that Wirbel’s team just stumbled onto a Stille when they did. At the time two of them were completely out of mana, and given that the Stille detects mana and flees if it senses too much…
True!
On the subject of luck, I have heard it said that the best at something thend to make their own luck and Frieren definately does that through the series and i have a feeling we are going to see it next episode to.
Must remember not to play poker with Fern because she's clearly good at the bluff.
I have a feeling Lawine and Kanne are actually going to put Richter out the game or at least hold him up till Frieren turns up, like i know he's powerful and the two are about as stable as nitroglycerin, but they do have the numbers advantage and both of them are good at working together, like Frieren did say their team work was good and she says so they have to be good.
Also personal note but i would rather like a spin off with Lawine and Kanne i think it would be intresting and certianly funny.
In an episode named necessary killing, there is no killing. Seeming to say that killing is rarely if ever necessary.
What a lovely episode I really did love all of the interesting discussion and interaction in it. Like some of the guys where not cold hearted dudes especially Wirbel and Denken. As Wirbel seems like he could be a psycho but he is actually a sweetheart deep down. Just fighting demons and protecting the northern lands so that his old love interest. Could one day return to him as her family moved away out of security concerns. But he still is able to kill anyone including women and children if he really needs too. Which makes his morality so much more complex. Also seeing how the northern lands sometimes use child soldiers was pretty brutal. Then we had Denken who was strongly against killing the kids mages in Frieren’s party. As he deemed that unnecessary unlike his teammate. He thought that just putting them under a sleep spell would be enough. So despite Denken seeming very cold and calculating he still care about the life of other people.
But then I also loved seeing the magic used in this episode as well. Like how Fern overwhelmed Ehme with her magical blasts until she could not take it anymore. Then Wirbel spell was pretty good as well as he could bind one creature with it. But only if he did maintain eye contact with it. Which reminded me about the weeping angels from doctor Who. Then we also saw how good Fern was at lying to him that she killed his teammate. Thus making him give up and walk away on the spot there.
This show does such a great job of making characters three-dimensional, like when Übel backs down from insisting on fighting Wirbel as he's leaving because Fern tells her to cool off and she acknowledges that Fern's right and complies even though she clearly wanted to fight him and she would probably have done it if Fern hadn't said anything. So Wirbel is a killer who only kills when necessary and is actually far more heroic and kind than he lets on, and Übel is a psychopath who can be reasonable given the context. Other shows wouldn't have given those two characters that level of depth given the archetypes they represent. I also loved how they established just how powerful the two First Level mages who are the test's proctors are just by showing them having tea discussing the test while a couple of stilles flutter around their little camp and even perch on the woman proctor completely unbothered by these powerful mages' mana because they're roughly as skilled at controlling it as Frieren and Fern.
This episode……flew by……and the just stopped. What a cliffhanger.
You simply don't need other offensive magic when you can just spam and win
i'm looking forward to the Denken moment in next episode lol
I loved your use of “cut like a biyotch”
xD
Funnily enough, with an episode named that, everyone who had the chance to kill didn't. Also love all the characters. I feel like Wirbel's team could have a whole anime to themselves and Ubel is mysterious and cool.
So Denken, Richter and Laufen have already lost. Fern lying about killing Ehre was cute though, like nobody believed that. But Wirbel seems to be too idealistic to see through it. He obviously has seen death but it has not yet fully corrupted his morals yet. Unlike Übel. Übel is capital E - Evil.
Missing Stark a little though, but I get why he doesn't play a role in this.
This arc is shaping up to be better than I would've imagined when the exams were first mentioned. Bet the finale will be Fern fighting Übel to the death, learning the weight of killing a person for the first time ever, that would only make sense as logical character development.
There was no cuteness there, it was in ur head.
She was a total stranger to him
@@huntermad5668 I see where you are coming from, but sure.
I'm sure not killing Ubel will bite Wirbel back in the future since he's most likely successfully passed the first round, especially now that she knows his weakness. It was amusing to watch him carry his party members lol. Allowing mages deaths because that's all they were worth seems to be an odd reason to me, especially when a lot of it seems to be the younger ones. They could have potential to one day reach the standard but their lives are cut short because of the ruthless exam, but I guess they're all informed of this and it's a well-known part of the exam.
prolly not. it's kinda shown throughout the ep that's she's outclassed and even she even has that scene where she realizes he could've just one shot her at the start of the fight. and wirbel isn't even the most bonkers mage there, it's arguably the glasses guy (foreshadowing).
Lmao you are just over thinking my boy, they all cool with each other
I thought this was a great episode of Frieren. Some good fighting and fake-outs, and we're even getting to see some of the proctors' pov as well.
denken's backstory is gonna hit so hard in the anime
best character btw
Can't wait for next weeks episode
It would be hilarious if Frieren passes the exam, gets to Serie, who can give her the cure for all illness or unlimited power, and she just asks for a very simple but useful spell like cleaning rock statues or sth, and Serie doesn't have it because why would she care about folk magic?
I think we already far enough into anime and currently i feel like it a good time to ask you this
Have you noticed thay we never see Frieren using "signature" spell
We have seen some human, demon have their own "signature" but so far we never seen Frieren use/have this (even in manga)
Also Serie is.... Nah nvm i will hold it lmao
But one thing all agree this anime will go on history one best out there same status cowboy bebop or ghost shell 😊
Imagine sparing a child murderer.
What is is interesting is the girl who is name is Ubël if translate that word from German it literally translates to bad or evil.
all the names actually translate to a meaning that matches their character which is interesting
@@AHBrandonReviewsyeah love when studios and authors do that ir provides more meaning to characters them self and it can even reflect their personality
@@AHBrandonReviewsthis made a friend kindaaaa stop watching the series because he felt like it sorta spoiled the characters and their involvement in the story lol 😅
Next week is gonna be full of GUTS! Oh, you thought mages were nerds? You ain't seen the old man in action.
I´ve played enough RPGs where LUCK is an actual skill, so I wouldn´t be surprised if it was a real thing in this world. (Or any anime.)
You missed or forgot that Übel called Fern out that she lied about killing her opponent. Also this mage society is rly interesting. I dont believe as a mage they are going to let you die BUT you need a rank and that rank likely means you are now a mage that can understand what is and is not in their capabilities. And given that there is always more dead than sucsesfull candidates it really makes you wonder also there could be some hidden aspect of this test like you killed you cant become 1st class mage even tho you completed 1st test.
Denken my boy, waiting for next ep for the cqc
El Dorado Arc is straight up 🔥 for Denken's character
If we don't get a second season i might just have to go read the manga.
For real.
Currently manga has the best arc after the First Mage Exam, S2 will be 🔥! Also, Denken would be the MVP of the next big arc.
@@il3fortunato664 get yourself together and stop spoiling all over the place.
I think the killer dude is wrong, as well as immoral. The rules only said they all had to be present, not necessarily alive.
I think the fact that Frieren was unfazed when Lawine and Kanne were separated from her tells us that she thinks they're going to win that fight. If she thought that the separation would lead to her loss, she would have done something about it. She's not only unfazed, but unhurried, because she's confident that her team has plenty of time to both win this fight and track down the teammate with the stille.
Mommy fern lezzgo
to clarify serie and her magic. she has the most spells of the human school of magic (hence her title as the living grimoire), there's another school of magic that's called goddess magic and only priests (implied to be chosen by the goddess) can use that school of magic beyond basic spells. it's also vaguely mentioned that barely any goddess magic has been deciphered from her scrolls/texts.
True but a small correction, it's not human magic. It's Elf magic. Serie is the oldest mage in the world and she was teaching magic when humans didn't even know what magic is.
Human magic is nothing more than a euphemism used to describe the magic that the humanoid races use, meaning Elves, humans and dwarves. Humans in lore learned magic from the Elves, so Serie could be seen as the progenitor of the magic that the humans learned from Flamme, since Flamme (spoiler)...........
was Serie's student. And according to Serie not even her best student if I'm not mistaken.
there's no such thing as "school of magic", you just made that up. I don't know what's wrong with people, why do y'all keep making up stuff and go around spreading misinformation. Serie is described to know almost every single spell known to humanity, that's it, that's what the manga says. Then we also have the magic of the goddess whose scripts have barely been deciphered by humanity. It's not another school of magic.
Frieren would abandon all things just for a legendary tier spell 😭
in her OG party id agree but with who she is now she values the lives and time of her companions so she would still put them first
You would be surprised on how she responds to the privilege.