@@scantopup2226 I think it's more than 30 years coz freya said tyr temple is buried underwater for 150 winter which roughly 150 years and there's a relic about kratos being the ghost of sparta on the treasure vault, mimir that have been trapped for 109 winter know about kratos being the ghost of sparta which means kratos is likely been around for quite a long time and if the blades is following him, it will likely be more than approx more than 190 years
For those of you saying that Ares is the one who cursed the blades. Yes its true that the narrator says "the blades were fused to his arms, never to be removed" Now that doesn't necessarily means that the blades are cursed , it just means that kratos is cursed to never remove them. However this curse was lifted during the ending of gow 1 when Ares took the blades back. The curse I'm taking about in this video is a new one ( I guess you haven't read fallen god) in the comics the blades of chaos keep appearing in front of him whenever he wakes up. He even accuses Athena of being the one responsible for such a curse. This is a new curse, totally unrelated to the one from gow 1 that got lifted by Ares himself. If you still want to say Ares put this new curse on Kratos you have to provide evidence that Ares is at least Alive, which he's not.
Well, the problem is that Athena didn't even know where the blades were, and for some reason, she could just curse them? I do not think it was Ares' curse, but I think the blade is a plot hole, put into the fourth game for fanservice without further thought, then, they attempted to explain the plot hole in Fallen God, but it didn't work (at least for me). Honestly, it wouldn't have been as much of a problem narrative-wise had they just added Blades of Exile instead of Blades of Chaos.
The blades are simply kratos destiny. There’s a scene when Brock ask him “is that a family air loom” and kratos says “no and nor will they ever be.” I believe when kratos die so does his bond to the blades.
Problem is, he died some 4 times by now and they're still there. They actually went with him to hades every single time he died. When he says they'll never be an heirloom he is implying such curse and the terrible deeds done by those blades will never ever be passed on to his son.
And the fact that he kill them with the blades anx then immediately their entire bodies are made ash and put on him by the old Witch. Leaving nothing physical to tether their souls to the blades.
When I played the first God of war game,I thought these blades were just another weapon in another game.Never ever thought it would be of such importance in future games. 😂😂😂 Great video btw. 👍🏻
That's how they are presented in the first games, the fact that you get the blades of Athena and the blades of exile should tell you they are that important lol
@@KaptainKuba If You Played The Zelda Series Than The Same Goes For Link Because He Was CURSED By Demise To Be Eternally Bound To The Master Sword And When There Is Trouble He Will Always Return To The Master Sword So I Believe The Blades Are Link And Zelda's Souls Eternally Trapped Within Kratos's Blades Are Always Returning To Him Due To Demise's Curse Keeping Them From Escaping Back To Hyrule The Eternal Cycle Of Chaos Hyrule Had Some BRUTAL Wars In The Distant Past So Everytime Link
In Muspelheim, I'm pretty sure the voice Atreus hears from the sword is Surtr, and once you beat the Valkyrie there he does take an interest in you, and it's where you get the last Blades of Chaos upgrade, so Surtr helping kratos in some way with the Blades of Chaos isn't too out of left field
The blades are like a symbiote they will seek their host and bond until their host is dead and gone only Kratos is very hard to kill and refuses to stay dead.
I always thought that the Blades might be semi-sentient. They have a mind of their own but stay true to their simple purpose: sticking to Kratos. I would even be open to the blades having a consciousness and would whisper to Kratos from time to time
@@marvelismarvelous8987 no, not at all, if they are trully forged with Chaos it means they hold the soul of one of the most powerful beings/forces in gow, it would only make sense that the traped chaos would act out every now and then
kill all gods...ALL gods chu say.....tats popycock he.ll kill ALL the gods 😄 tats impossable simply becuz 1 his sons a god and also soo ish he 😄 and as we know the prev. gods made it soo he cant die by his own hand 😄
When loki was sick, his death would have changed the future since we know the world serpent already went through Ragnarok and its Loki's son so it would have changed the whole outcome of ragnarok
I just agree with kuba that Santa Monica just wants to forget about the other 2 sets of blades, because thats what i thought when the game first came out and i first saw the blades of chaos
@@marvelismarvelous8987 not really unless sms didn't really think about this but in tyr's vault the vase that depicts kratos he's holding the blades of exile
I honestly think this is one of the best theories you've had. I personally think athena is cursing the blades to follow kratos, has a reminder that he can't outrun his destiny. She even tells him that he can't when he goes back to the house to get them. "There's nowhere you can hide, Spartan. Put as much distance between you and the truth as you want, it changes nothing. Pretend to be everything you are not... teacher... husband... father... ...but there is one unavoidable truth you will never escape. You cannot change. You will always be a monster"
Ares made a bond, with Kratos with chains that seared into his own arms. To be a servent of Ares but also symbolic of being a slave to his own rage and violence which is channelled through those blades. I believe those blades have somewhat become a part of him, and just as he was cursed to wear his ashes of his family, he's also cursed to wield the blades that killed them.
Kratos was in another dimension when he lost the Blades, at which point Ares could have taken them in the real world. Just as Zeus holds Kratos (in GoW 3) and he starts fighting inside himself, but in the real world Kratos is just "passed out". So the Blades would be with Ares in the real world and so Kratos was able to retrieve them. This is not possible Kuba? Congratulations on the video!
Another possibility is that Kratos never lost the blades of chaos. Ares only ripped off the physical chains but the metaphorical chains are still connected and are what bring the blades back to Kratos. Seeing how Ares is the one who had the most involvement with the blades.
Do you think God of War will ever really touch on Christianity, though? I really don't know... It would start a shitstorm for sure for Karen's and soccer moms that think Santa Monica mean to disrespect the religion.
@@KaptainKuba They don't have to be "Evil" for Kratos to kill them you know? Just an overwhelming amt of rage, probably from the gods sacrificing Loki for the greater good, could do the trick. Yeah I think the gods are saving up Atreues for a grand Sacrifice in the future.
@@doubleh2002 i don't know why but i have a hunch that we may get to see Penelope again after fighting Thor and losing and needing to go back to Greece to get the geared up again
I’ve been wondering how Brok knew that Atreus’ powers of communication. When you meet him at Landsuther Mines he tells Atreus to talk to the ring despite knowing about his ability to communicate with animals/spirits.
I always thought when he said “the world” was reacting, I thought he was referring to the previous world changing events like in God of war 3 when a God would die the “GREEK” world reacted. With a natural disaster.
I don’t think they wanted us to forget about the blades of exile. When helhiem showed the blades of chaos, that may just have been an elusion all around. Remember the vase with the picture of kratos? If you look closely those were the blades of exile that kratos was holding
I don't think Loki being ill will affect other Pantheons just like whatever happened in Greece didn't affect Egypt and Norse. Cory was talking about the "Realm" of Midgard getting affected by his illness (that may be connected to Ragnarok). As in Norse, there's one world with nine realms in it, Maybe? And the higher plain of existence wants to keep Krato's insanity level low. Atreus is the only being keeping Kratos in his peace of mind right now. After losing everything and he loses Atreus now imagine the state Kratos will be. It'll be hard for anyone to negotiate anything with Kratos and Athena for whatever reason she has will have a very difficult time manipulating him (if she's evil).
i think the blades of chaos as well as the leviathan axe are here to stay. I think they will be very significant storywise. I agree with the surtr theory too. I do hope there will be a game involving the higher plain of existence
I wonder if Kratos’ destiny is to destroy all the pantheons and free humanity of the God’s Influence. Since Kratos is helping to bring Ragnarok closer. He already killed the Greek Gods and the developers want Kratos to go to Egypt next which will most likely result in their death too.
I have a theory .. Do you remember when Athena put hope in Pandora's box? It is possible that Athena put part of her energy into swords so that she could find Kratos's place wherever he went so that it would appear to him even in other worlds like Egypt and Scandinavia .
Connecting to Bain’s comment below about when Brok asked if the blades is a heirloom and Kratos said “no” What if Brok actually sensed magic in the blades to make weapons family heirlooms; making sure that the son will receive the weapon when the father dies? Maybe, Athena wanted Kratos alive to make sure Loki exist, lives, train, and 1 day receive the blades for their plans. It can go back and connect to the wall at Jotemheim where Kratos sees himself in Atreus’ arms, and the “snake” thing in the painting from Kratos to Atreus IS actually the Blades. Another thought, Loki is the catalyst of Change and Chaos, the blades represent both, changing the Greek relm and bringing chaos.
Great video, but I don’t think the question of who cursed the blades is the idea that Santa Monica is trying to introduce. If you ask me the blades always returning to him will serve a greater purpose come when Kratos dies to Thor and is sent to Valhalla. What if your possessions don’t follow you so the axe is left behind but the blades are still with you, this could be their way of doing fan service since we would get to fight our way out of death ☠️ underworld style once more.
exactly what i think is going to happen: Kratos dies Shirtless in Valhalla Only blades are there we fight our way out We fight heimdall before getting out of asgard.
@@youssefyoussef9418 man I can totally see how that would play out it makes sense for it to be near the start too so we can build him up with the blades first instead of the axe
I honestly would love to see a mod in a cutscene he's calling the Axe back but the blades are jealous and come flying in instead and kratos's reaction being priceless and just madder causing more "chaos"😂
In the novel, it was the Norse God's who were trying to stop Kratos from getting to the Blades. Whether it was stop him from saving Loki or from killing the Gatekeeper isn't said.
I think Athena is responsible for the curse. She knows how good kratos can fight with the blades. This could also explain why she did not gave him the blades in God of War 3, what I mean is maybe Athena was just trying to see how well kratos can fight with weapons that are not cursed to return to him
We know from Ragnarok that the Blades of Chaos contain primordial fire, which allows them to function in other worlds while all of his other Olympian weapons ceased to work once Olympus was destroyed. If Athena and Thoth are indeed responsible for the Blades of Chaos being cursed to remain in his possession, this is why. It's quite literally the only thing they can do to better his chances in whatever realm he journeys to next.
Hey Kap!!! What if Tyr is also part of the Higher Plane of Existence? So far Kratos’ Destiny has led him to Norse where Tyr is nowhere to be found or dead.
I think the blade of chaos is literally CHAOS itself.. because like freyja said he cant use his axe becoz it was made in midgard.. technically the blade of chaos is like a key to some places.. i.e his axe is useless on some places in midgard becoz it was made from midgard and thus blade of chaos comes in becoz that weapon was not from midgard.. surely those both weapon has some kind of curse and blessing..
Your theory make sense. And it'sone of the most powerful weapon in God of War because Zeus manage to destroys all of Kratos Godly weapons at the end of God of War 3 but only the Blade of Chaos is still intact. Which means it's was forge by the ores that's was once the blood of the Ancient Primordial God Chaos the most powerful entity in God of War.
@@timeportal2859 I actually think blade of chaos is some kind of a key to restart the world thats why Zeus cant or didnt destroy 😅😅.. I have this theory that if Kratos is somewhat immortal and could go in every major pantheon he will end the reign of gods and let human kind advance without the gods..
Have y’all played the first game? Aries bound the blades of Chaos to Kratos after Kratos gave his life to Aries. There honestly shouldn’t be a theory of a higher existence bounding the blades to Kratos.
I believe it could be Persephone as she said that his suffering would never end and because the blades are a reminder of his past and his were used to kill his family they make him suffer in some kind of way....
I have a theory about the death of kratos and the birth of jormungandr To keep it simple i think atreus will use kratos' tattoos to bring life to jormungandr and i know that sounds pretty crazy but hear me out. The mural on the wall depicts atreus holding a dying man in his arms, now at first i didn't think it was kratos because of the lack of tattoos but it also shows a giant serpent like creature being born which is presumably jormungandr. There is theories that kratos is the world serpent but what if the world serpent is only a remnant of kratos, a reminder of him. Atreus would use his own mind and soul to create jormungandr out of kratos' tattoos in kratos' image but its not him jormungandr is an amalgamation of kratos and atreus and you might be wandering "well wouldn't he be red?" as i said atreus created jormungandr in kratos' image he is not kratos and the red he has from those tattoos is concentrated in jormungandr's eyes. If you read all my ramblings i appreciate it! But if there is a hole in the theory or you wanna add to it please just reply to this comment! (also sorry for any grammar mistakes 😅) have a nice day and tell me what you think!
They could use reincarnation for kratos in future games or he dies, comes back with no memory but he's drawn to the blades and finding out about his past. I'd love to see kratos with Egyptian closing/silk skirt and arm bangles/pads. Egyptian weapons would be awesome too.
I thought the storm was because modi was telling the aesir about magnes death and the pantheon was grieving 🤔 and modi getting the sh*t beat out of him by daddy thor
I think that the blades were being cursed/semi-sentient and that they would always have followed Kratos after they bounded to him for the first time and would have done so for as long as Kratos lived, if they weren't kept at bay by Athena's magic. By giving Kratos the Blades of Athena (weapons he didn't necessarily need, he was the God of War, he could wield any weapon he wanted) and replacing them with the Blades of Exile after the River Styx ruined the original blades, she shielded him for their curse. However, when he casted aside the Blades of Exile and "betrayed" Athena, she didn't renew her protection and allowed the curse to return to ever haunt Kratos, now an immortal...
It kind of reminds me of a boomerang when you roll the way it comes back but this time with the blades it even worse because no matter how much you throw them away they always come back to haunt you
I also prefer the old design. The new Blades look much thinner and with rounded details, the Greek Blades seem to be heavier... I dunno, but something makes me like the OG Blades more too
Hey i got a theory what if kratos was just imagining that he was carrying the blades of athena and exile but in reality he was using the blades of chaos some reasons why i say this is kratos doesn’t want to use the blades of chaos but he has to so he imagines it’s different blades and in helheim we see that kratos was holding the blades of chaos not exile this obviously is just a theory but its a good excuse for not focusing on it too much
Hey I just have a theory... The world (higher god's ) didn't want Atreus to die because that could cause Odin to win in Ragnarok in another timeline, my theory is that when Odin hung from the world tree and got all the wisdom he also learned about the higher plane, if he wins he could try and go to the higher plane and conquer it
Athena: You will always be a monster Kratos. Kratos:Yes but I am your monster no longer. (Athena dissappears as Kratos leaves his home with the Blades of Chaos on his arms once more.)
This is basically a narrative that Santa Monica created in order for the Blades to always remain with Kratos, no matter what game he appears in. The Blades are an integral part of Kratos. You can't have a Kratos centered God of War without the Blades.
So I think that the blades themselves have cursed him. He had to kill his family because it was a wife and a daughter. Where as Atreus is a son, so Kratos can pass them down
@@KaptainKuba I didn't watch the fallen God one since I wasnt interested in the fallen god but seems like I need to watch it the last theory I watched was a month ago 😁
THIS MAN HAS COVERED THE WHOLE FUKKIN STORY OG GOD OF WAR RAGNAROK.... NOW NO FUN TO PLAY THE GAME CUZ THIS MAN ALREADY TOLD WHAT WIL HAPPEN IN ALL HIS THEORY VIDS
most people i talk to consider the newest novel secondary canon, mostly because there are a decent amount of contradictions within it too, for example, baldur impales kratos with a rock in the game, in the novel it says he used the leviathan axe, the second attack from modi didn't happen either :/
the god who "cursed" Kratos with the Blades of Chaos I think it could be Mars, the Roman God of war or maybe even Horus the Egyptian God of war. I personally think Horus would be the one to actually do it mainly because of his aspects which are War but also Protection, but then again I might be think to much about Loki NEEDING to be alive.
Both Thoth and Athena are God's of knowledge/wisdom You could also technically make a case for the idea that Odin could be a God of knowledge in a way, or at the very least he is very knowledgeable Maybe the higher plane gods have to be Gods of extreme knowledge/wisdom because if they do, they'd have the mind to realize that there even is a higher plane of existence
I can’t wait till Kratos does Egypt, him and Atreus can be taking a vacation there and wouldn’t ya know it, Ra is not happy about it and shenanigans ensue.
@@anonymousperson8211 You’re right now I imagine a montage of him killing Egyptian gods to the tune of Hoku-Perfect day with Kratos in a Hawaiian shirt and Atreus looking mortified 😂
Sounds like a Great Reset it's in our movies, games and all media. Gods stepping down and Gods taking thrones a giant restructuring of respective societies and cultures. Kratos Even talks about how the cycle must end that it must be be better !
Just seeing now what Loki would ask Kratos on his adventures to Norse Land and Kratos would say "I meet a warrior who had a shovel for a weapon. I don't know why but he is now the Ghost of Shovels" and with this resent one even Kratos would say "I killed a Hippo as for it was my destiny to do so". Sorry still can't wrap my head around that Dark Horse Comic.
I've a theory if kratos does die. I think he'd go to the higher plane of existence and Loki carries on with the journeys. Whether he uses his father's blades or not I don't know. You could have kratos appearing to Atreus throughout the games to help him on his journey. If he uses the blades maybe there's an enchantment or material that protects the wearer from burning when they use the blades.
Perhaps Athena being an immortal wraith of some sort has cursed him for releasing the power of Hope to the realm(/realms) as she showed disfust before at end of GoW3 and in 2018.
im pretty sure every pantheon exists on a different world or dimension, so when Cory Barlog said 'world' i think he just means the world of the norse pantheon and not all of existence. If thats the case it would make sense for the persians to attack greece because they would be from the same world. Tho im not sure so i could be wrong
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(2:20)Kratos: "I must dig up a past I swore, would stayed buried."
Blades of Choas: "Hey Cap....on your left."
lmao
kratos; I must dig a past I swore, would stay buried
blades: you've been asleep cap, for 30 years
You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me. Blades of Chaos
@@scantopup2226 I think it's more than 30 years coz freya said tyr temple is buried underwater for 150 winter which roughly 150 years and there's a relic about kratos being the ghost of sparta on the treasure vault, mimir that have been trapped for 109 winter know about kratos being the ghost of sparta which means kratos is likely been around for quite a long time and if the blades is following him, it will likely be more than approx more than 190 years
In the Norse mythology 'Loki' was the catalyst for change (even for ragnarok), I think in upcoming games he will play a big role.
Someone has watched untangling gow
True , but I am a student of ancient history of word so I get the chance to read different religion.
That’s kinda like a huge duhh tho, they made him kratos’s son for a reason and theyve made it perfectly clear hes gonna play a huge role.
And Loki is able to change his gender which is how he gives birth to journangandr
@umar b he is a shapeshifter
For those of you saying that Ares is the one who cursed the blades.
Yes its true that the narrator says "the blades were fused to his arms, never to be removed"
Now that doesn't necessarily means that the blades are cursed , it just means that kratos is cursed to never remove them.
However this curse was lifted during the ending of gow 1 when Ares took the blades back.
The curse I'm taking about in this video is a new one ( I guess you haven't read fallen god) in the comics the blades of chaos keep appearing in front of him whenever he wakes up.
He even accuses Athena of being the one responsible for such a curse. This is a new curse, totally unrelated to the one from gow 1 that got lifted by Ares himself.
If you still want to say Ares put this new curse on Kratos you have to provide evidence that Ares is at least Alive, which he's not.
Ohhhh
Well, the problem is that Athena didn't even know where the blades were, and for some reason, she could just curse them?
I do not think it was Ares' curse, but I think the blade is a plot hole, put into the fourth game for fanservice without further thought, then, they attempted to explain the plot hole in Fallen God, but it didn't work (at least for me).
Honestly, it wouldn't have been as much of a problem narrative-wise had they just added Blades of Exile instead of Blades of Chaos.
I think it's Keeping him Alive
makes me curious that blades are sentient and it has some sort of bind to its master. knowing chaos is prime goddess it details we don't know yet
hell yeah i'd like to get your take on a MCU style GOWU vid
The blades are simply kratos destiny. There’s a scene when Brock ask him “is that a family air loom” and kratos says “no and nor will they ever be.” I believe when kratos die so does his bond to the blades.
Fyi *heirloom*
Most likely unless you know them they goin to throw a catch in there and kratos will die but be reborn
Not only does his bond with the blades end when he dies, he would not want his son to have the weapons he used to kill his previous family.
The Blades will be an Heirloom The Blades of Chaos for the God of Chaos.
Problem is, he died some 4 times by now and they're still there. They actually went with him to hades every single time he died.
When he says they'll never be an heirloom he is implying such curse and the terrible deeds done by those blades will never ever be passed on to his son.
How bout this: kratos carries the ashes of his wife and daughter in his skin, BUT their souls in each blade correspondingly.
I love you for this
I likes this. Needs to be canon.
You're too good
I mean that would be great if we didn't already see Calliope's soul in the Elysium Fields
And the fact that he kill them with the blades anx then immediately their entire bodies are made ash and put on him by the old Witch. Leaving nothing physical to tether their souls to the blades.
When I played the first God of war game,I thought these blades were just another weapon in another game.Never ever thought it would be of such importance in future games. 😂😂😂
Great video btw. 👍🏻
That's how they are presented in the first games, the fact that you get the blades of Athena and the blades of exile should tell you they are that important lol
@@KaptainKuba If You Played The Zelda Series Than The Same Goes For Link Because He Was CURSED
By Demise To Be Eternally Bound To The Master Sword And When There Is Trouble He Will Always Return
To The Master Sword So I Believe The Blades Are Link And Zelda's Souls Eternally Trapped Within Kratos's Blades Are Always Returning To Him Due To Demise's Curse Keeping Them From Escaping Back To Hyrule
The Eternal Cycle Of Chaos Hyrule Had Some BRUTAL Wars In The Distant Past So Everytime Link
@@KaptainKuba No Matter How Many Times Link Kills Ganondorf He Always Comes Back
In Muspelheim, I'm pretty sure the voice Atreus hears from the sword is Surtr, and once you beat the Valkyrie there he does take an interest in you, and it's where you get the last Blades of Chaos upgrade, so Surtr helping kratos in some way with the Blades of Chaos isn't too out of left field
The blades are like a symbiote they will seek their host and bond until their host is dead and gone only Kratos is very hard to kill and refuses to stay dead.
I think ares was the one to put a contract on kratos even after his death
@thE tEST Problem is Ascension more or less retconned that.
Which begs the question, why would anyone ever swear an oath that can't be upheld?
What if Odin's plan was to get thr Giant's knowledge not for ragnarock, but to ascend to the higher plane?
Maybe that's his real ultimate goal
The fact that u hit right on the spot is quite impressive🤣
@@samyr6131 out of 100 shots, one of them was surely to hit lmao
Brooooo......are you a time traveler? 😂😂😂
I always thought that the Blades might be semi-sentient. They have a mind of their own but stay true to their simple purpose: sticking to Kratos. I would even be open to the blades having a consciousness and would whisper to Kratos from time to time
Thats a little out there don't you think
@@marvelismarvelous8987 no, not at all, if they are trully forged with Chaos it means they hold the soul of one of the most powerful beings/forces in gow, it would only make sense that the traped chaos would act out every now and then
I'm telling you. One day kratos will destroy every God in higher plan of existence.
I can feel it.
That Will be in 2030+ probably egpyt greece game
In that case Kratos will have to go head to head with Asura, who is literally too angry to die lol. And that will be a crazy ass battle.
kill all gods...ALL gods chu say.....tats popycock he.ll kill ALL the gods 😄 tats impossable simply becuz 1 his sons a god and also soo ish he 😄 and as we know the prev. gods made it soo he cant die by his own hand 😄
@@shadowdragonx07 We shall see
@@s.dreviews7208 I wonder who would win
When loki was sick, his death would have changed the future since we know the world serpent already went through Ragnarok and its Loki's son so it would have changed the whole outcome of ragnarok
Blades of chaos sounds so much more badass than the blades of exile... Probably that's why they put blades of chaos in God of war 4 😅
I just agree with kuba that Santa Monica just wants to forget about the other 2 sets of blades, because thats what i thought when the game first came out and i first saw the blades of chaos
Blades of Athena got destroyed in the beginning of GOW3 blades of exile got destroyed fighting Zeus that's why.
@@ragnarokpxn5196 dafaq? When did those blades of exile got destroyed. Kratos just thrown them on the ground.
@@sartire.dx1 facts. They weren’t destroyed
@@marvelismarvelous8987 not really unless sms didn't really think about this but in tyr's vault the vase that depicts kratos he's holding the blades of exile
The other issue is why would Kratos see this version of Athena when he already met the higher plane of existence one before coming to Norse.
Maybe athena cause ragnarok to kill kratos
I honestly think this is one of the best theories you've had. I personally think athena is cursing the blades to follow kratos, has a reminder that he can't outrun his destiny. She even tells him that he can't when he goes back to the house to get them. "There's nowhere you can hide, Spartan. Put as much distance between you and the truth as you want, it changes nothing. Pretend to be everything you are not... teacher... husband... father... ...but there is one unavoidable truth you will never escape. You cannot change. You will always be a monster"
5:15 the blades of chaos being the essence of chaos is pretty interesting, as loki is kind of the same thing in the norse pantheon
Ares made a bond, with Kratos with chains that seared into his own arms. To be a servent of Ares but also symbolic of being a slave to his own rage and violence which is channelled through those blades.
I believe those blades have somewhat become a part of him, and just as he was cursed to wear his ashes of his family, he's also cursed to wield the blades that killed them.
That what i think that the blade will be apart of them forever
Kratos was in another dimension when he lost the Blades, at which point Ares could have taken them in the real world. Just as Zeus holds Kratos (in GoW 3) and he starts fighting inside himself, but in the real world Kratos is just "passed out". So the Blades would be with Ares in the real world and so Kratos was able to retrieve them. This is not possible Kuba? Congratulations on the video!
No because he gets the blades of athena after that.
5:45 wow you actually kinda were right about that, to a certain extent.
Another possibility is that Kratos never lost the blades of chaos. Ares only ripped off the physical chains but the metaphorical chains are still connected and are what bring the blades back to Kratos. Seeing how Ares is the one who had the most involvement with the blades.
Kuba u gone basically predict the hole game before it even comes out lmao 😂
I wonder if he will feel more excited that he is right, or dissapointed that certain plot points won't be a surprise to him? Lol
It be funny if “The Higher Plane” was either a) The Christian Heavens, or b) where Cthulhu and his buddies hang out
It’s god of war anything possible
@@kingartison , I really want to see great Kratos take on Cthulhu
Do you think God of War will ever really touch on Christianity, though? I really don't know... It would start a shitstorm for sure for Karen's and soccer moms that think Santa Monica mean to disrespect the religion.
@@anonymousperson8211 , I get your point, besides it’s just a joke
@@Omnitrickster0207 oh I know you were joking! Haha But it did get me thinking about how that would play out 🤔
What if Kratos sacrifices himself for Atreus and goes to the higher existence...
To KILL those gods as well.
Well from what we saw in Fallen they don't seem to be evil, they are just in charge with upholding the destiny of the realms
@@KaptainKuba They don't have to be "Evil" for Kratos to kill them you know? Just an overwhelming amt of rage, probably from the gods sacrificing Loki for the greater good, could do the trick.
Yeah I think the gods are saving up Atreues for a grand Sacrifice in the future.
@@KaptainKuba I think this is a good idea kill those gods too
@@doubleh2002 i don't know why but i have a hunch that we may get to see Penelope again after fighting Thor and losing and needing to go back to Greece to get the geared up again
Nah
Blades of Chaos = Blade of Olympus power level
And it's was the only weapons besides Blades of Olympus that didn't get destroyed by Zeus in his Spirit Form at the end of God of War 3.
I’ve been wondering how Brok knew that Atreus’ powers of communication. When you meet him at Landsuther Mines he tells Atreus to talk to the ring despite knowing about his ability to communicate with animals/spirits.
At the beginning of the the game Atreus Was talking to Brock's animal that's how he knew he had those powers
Bro you were right about the surtur upgrade
My theory is that preparing Kratos to finish the world of god's in every realm and every culture so that higher existence will rule
I always thought when he said “the world” was reacting, I thought he was referring to the previous world changing events like in God of war 3 when a God would die the “GREEK” world reacted. With a natural disaster.
A rebirth of the sword of Olympus in the next games would make up for the excitement I got when retrieving the blades 🧨🫀
"You will never dicover that, Kuba.
(cough)
You will forfeit your life in trying."
of all the lives you should worry about, Helios. Mine is not one of them.
@@GowSpeedrunsAndMemes
FEEL THE POWER OF THE SUN!
@@Killer-Body **INSERT KRATOS' GRUNT**
*Insert Kratos Tearing Helios’s Head Off*
I don’t think they wanted us to forget about the blades of exile. When helhiem showed the blades of chaos, that may just have been an elusion all around. Remember the vase with the picture of kratos? If you look closely those were the blades of exile that kratos was holding
The blades love Kratos. They miss their fwend and want to be with him!
you are right about surter
Bro predicted it
I don't think Loki being ill will affect other Pantheons just like whatever happened in Greece didn't affect Egypt and Norse. Cory was talking about the "Realm" of Midgard getting affected by his illness (that may be connected to Ragnarok). As in Norse, there's one world with nine realms in it, Maybe? And the higher plain of existence wants to keep Krato's insanity level low. Atreus is the only being keeping Kratos in his peace of mind right now. After losing everything and he loses Atreus now imagine the state Kratos will be. It'll be hard for anyone to negotiate anything with Kratos and Athena for whatever reason she has will have a very difficult time manipulating him (if she's evil).
Hey bro your voice is very flexible for listen . It's become reason sometimes for my sleep.
Is that good? 😅
Probably Ares since he pulled them Off in Gow 1 and could have possibly cursed them while at it.
Yeah but he's dead
@@KaptainKuba I know but The Oracle is also dead and his white ashy skin still remains too Kuba
I think the thought process behind the Persian invasion is Sants monica using the actual historical event and adapted it into the GOW universe.
i think Tyr is in this higher existence
i think the blades of chaos as well as the leviathan axe are here to stay. I think they will be very significant storywise. I agree with the surtr theory too. I do hope there will be a game involving the higher plain of existence
Dude you're a genius
Lol thanks
I wonder if Kratos’ destiny is to destroy all the pantheons and free humanity of the God’s Influence. Since Kratos is helping to bring Ragnarok closer. He already killed the Greek Gods and the developers want Kratos to go to Egypt next which will most likely result in their death too.
I have a theory .. Do you remember when Athena put hope in Pandora's box? It is possible that Athena put part of her energy into swords so that she could find Kratos's place wherever he went so that it would appear to him even in other worlds like Egypt and Scandinavia .
Kratos really changed he went from:killing his son with the blades to saving his son with them.
Connecting to Bain’s comment below about when Brok asked if the blades is a heirloom and Kratos said “no”
What if Brok actually sensed magic in the blades to make weapons family heirlooms; making sure that the son will receive the weapon when the father dies? Maybe, Athena wanted Kratos alive to make sure Loki exist, lives, train, and 1 day receive the blades for their plans. It can go back and connect to the wall at Jotemheim where Kratos sees himself in Atreus’ arms, and the “snake” thing in the painting from Kratos to Atreus IS actually the Blades.
Another thought, Loki is the catalyst of Change and Chaos, the blades represent both, changing the Greek relm and bringing chaos.
Ironically the blade of chaos is the one who will prevent the chaos
Thank God Kuba... Finally you changed the Background music to a suitable one..
Great video, but I don’t think the question of who cursed the blades is the idea that Santa Monica is trying to introduce. If you ask me the blades always returning to him will serve a greater purpose come when Kratos dies to Thor and is sent to Valhalla. What if your possessions don’t follow you so the axe is left behind but the blades are still with you, this could be their way of doing fan service since we would get to fight our way out of death ☠️ underworld style once more.
exactly what i think is going to happen:
Kratos dies
Shirtless in Valhalla
Only blades are there
we fight our way out
We fight heimdall before getting out of asgard.
@@youssefyoussef9418 this^
@@youssefyoussef9418 I wonder if he’s gonna be raging out of his mind at the thought of leaving Atreus behind when he dies
@@D_MEISTER15 he will im pretty sure. thats how old kratos will return. Atreus is the key. If he is gone, the Destroyer of Worlds will return.
@@youssefyoussef9418 man I can totally see how that would play out it makes sense for it to be near the start too so we can build him up with the blades first instead of the axe
I honestly would love to see a mod in a cutscene he's calling the Axe back but the blades are jealous and come flying in instead and kratos's reaction being priceless and just madder causing more "chaos"😂
In the novel, it was the Norse God's who were trying to stop Kratos from getting to the Blades. Whether it was stop him from saving Loki or from killing the Gatekeeper isn't said.
I think Athena is responsible for the curse.
She knows how good kratos can fight with the blades.
This could also explain why she did not gave him the blades in God of War 3, what I mean is maybe Athena was just trying to see how well kratos can fight with weapons that are not cursed to return to him
I always wondered why kratos kept the blades around him. This makes since.
We know from Ragnarok that the Blades of Chaos contain primordial fire, which allows them to function in other worlds while all of his other Olympian weapons ceased to work once Olympus was destroyed.
If Athena and Thoth are indeed responsible for the Blades of Chaos being cursed to remain in his possession, this is why. It's quite literally the only thing they can do to better his chances in whatever realm he journeys to next.
Hey Kap!!! What if Tyr is also part of the Higher Plane of Existence? So far Kratos’ Destiny has led him to Norse where Tyr is nowhere to be found or dead.
I think the blade of chaos is literally CHAOS itself.. because like freyja said he cant use his axe becoz it was made in midgard.. technically the blade of chaos is like a key to some places.. i.e his axe is useless on some places in midgard becoz it was made from midgard and thus blade of chaos comes in becoz that weapon was not from midgard.. surely those both weapon has some kind of curse and blessing..
Your theory make sense. And it'sone of the most powerful weapon in God of War because Zeus manage to destroys all of Kratos Godly weapons at the end of God of War 3 but only the Blade of Chaos is still intact. Which means it's was forge by the ores that's was once the blood of the Ancient Primordial God Chaos the most powerful entity in God of War.
@@timeportal2859 I actually think blade of chaos is some kind of a key to restart the world thats why Zeus cant or didnt destroy 😅😅.. I have this theory that if Kratos is somewhat immortal and could go in every major pantheon he will end the reign of gods and let human kind advance without the gods..
@@kiplingin5023
And begin the new age of Anno Domini and modern religions.
Have y’all played the first game? Aries bound the blades of Chaos to Kratos after Kratos gave his life to Aries. There honestly shouldn’t be a theory of a higher existence bounding the blades to Kratos.
I believe it could be Persephone as she said that his suffering would never end and because the blades are a reminder of his past and his were used to kill his family they make him suffer in some kind of way....
I have a theory about the death of kratos and the birth of jormungandr
To keep it simple i think atreus will use kratos' tattoos to bring life to jormungandr and i know that sounds pretty crazy but hear me out.
The mural on the wall depicts atreus holding a dying man in his arms, now at first i didn't think it was kratos because of the lack of tattoos but it also shows a giant serpent like creature being born which is presumably jormungandr. There is theories that kratos is the world serpent but what if the world serpent is only a remnant of kratos, a reminder of him. Atreus would use his own mind and soul to create jormungandr out of kratos' tattoos in kratos' image but its not him jormungandr is an amalgamation of kratos and atreus and you might be wandering "well wouldn't he be red?" as i said atreus created jormungandr in kratos' image he is not kratos and the red he has from those tattoos is concentrated in jormungandr's eyes.
If you read all my ramblings i appreciate it! But if there is a hole in the theory or you wanna add to it please just reply to this comment! (also sorry for any grammar mistakes 😅) have a nice day and tell me what you think!
Hey kuba my man whats up👍🏻👍🏻😉😉😉😉😉
Just finished the theory and it makes a lot of sense thanks for another great theory Kuba! 😀
They could use reincarnation for kratos in future games or he dies, comes back with no memory but he's drawn to the blades and finding out about his past. I'd love to see kratos with Egyptian closing/silk skirt and arm bangles/pads. Egyptian weapons would be awesome too.
I thought the storm was because modi was telling the aesir about magnes death and the pantheon was grieving 🤔 and modi getting the sh*t beat out of him by daddy thor
Hey Kuba! I love the blades lore and theories keep up the great work!
I think that the blades were being cursed/semi-sentient and that they would always have followed Kratos after they bounded to him for the first time and would have done so for as long as Kratos lived, if they weren't kept at bay by Athena's magic. By giving Kratos the Blades of Athena (weapons he didn't necessarily need, he was the God of War, he could wield any weapon he wanted) and replacing them with the Blades of Exile after the River Styx ruined the original blades, she shielded him for their curse. However, when he casted aside the Blades of Exile and "betrayed" Athena, she didn't renew her protection and allowed the curse to return to ever haunt Kratos, now an immortal...
because they're magnetically attracted to his back, that's also why they just stick to his back.
It kind of reminds me of a boomerang when you roll the way it comes back but this time with the blades it even worse because no matter how much you throw them away they always come back to haunt you
Am I the only one who prefers the OG blades of chaos design? The one in the thumbnail
I also prefer the old design. The new Blades look much thinner and with rounded details, the Greek Blades seem to be heavier... I dunno, but something makes me like the OG Blades more too
yeah i hope they fix it. Brok and Sindri yall better do sonething about this
They look too big to me but I'm not a 6'6 god that kills for fun so...
This is so confusing...the Fallen God comics really didnt clear things up
Yeah, I definitely left with even more questions
I skipped this video a couple times bcuz I thought it was just a repeat video, bcuz I didn’t get a notification, but NEW VIDEO😩😩😩
Yeah youtube can be a pain in the ass lol
Hey i got a theory what if kratos was just imagining that he was carrying the blades of athena and exile but in reality he was using the blades of chaos some reasons why i say this is kratos doesn’t want to use the blades of chaos but he has to so he imagines it’s different blades and in helheim we see that kratos was holding the blades of chaos not exile this obviously is just a theory but its a good excuse for not focusing on it too much
You should do a what if video about Artreus and how kratos tells him about his other family that died
Hey I just have a theory... The world (higher god's ) didn't want Atreus to die because that could cause Odin to win in Ragnarok in another timeline, my theory is that when Odin hung from the world tree and got all the wisdom he also learned about the higher plane, if he wins he could try and go to the higher plane and conquer it
I think Kratos has unintentionally cursed them himself, even though he wants to forget about the past, he doesn’t allow himself to ever forget
If Kuba doesn't heart this comment, then hades is gonna come for his soul.
Oh dam 😂
@@KaptainKuba 😂😂😂😂
GAHAHAH Nc one
Athena: You will always be a monster Kratos.
Kratos:Yes but I am your monster no longer.
(Athena dissappears as Kratos leaves his home with the Blades of Chaos on his arms once more.)
At least its still canon the boc and boa/boe are different blades
Your video is still valid even after the comics and thats great
I'm guessing it's a curse...
Gowu 😆👍 the surtur theory seems natural
This is basically a narrative that Santa Monica created in order for the Blades to always remain with Kratos, no matter what game he appears in. The Blades are an integral part of Kratos. You can't have a Kratos centered God of War without the Blades.
PLEASE give us an "MCU-like" timeline for various God of War games and its plan/story:)
So I think that the blades themselves have cursed him. He had to kill his family because it was a wife and a daughter. Where as Atreus is a son, so Kratos can pass them down
It's been long since you last made a theory video this will be great
I made one last week lol
@@KaptainKuba I didn't watch the fallen God one since I wasnt interested in the fallen god but seems like I need to watch it the last theory I watched was a month ago 😁
THIS MAN HAS COVERED THE WHOLE FUKKIN STORY OG GOD OF WAR RAGNAROK.... NOW NO FUN TO PLAY THE GAME CUZ THIS MAN ALREADY TOLD WHAT WIL HAPPEN IN ALL HIS THEORY VIDS
He had the blades the hole time in his armory when he became the god of war he just never used to the blades because he hated what they represented.
You should talk in a future video about Mimir's past .... The knife Kratos and Atreas found in Tyr's temple had to do with Mimir's Homeland
Sgian-dubh is the name of that knife
I suggest that in order to understand the GoW world better because Mimir had also a journey before coming to Midgard
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@@nick30fillou Yeap
most people i talk to consider the newest novel secondary canon, mostly because there are a decent amount of contradictions within it too, for example, baldur impales kratos with a rock in the game, in the novel it says he used the leviathan axe, the second attack from modi didn't happen either :/
Its weird but in a way, I consider the book more canon than the game because they do things like eat 😂 but I see what you're saying
The most dope weapon in game history..
the god who "cursed" Kratos with the Blades of Chaos I think it could be Mars, the Roman God of war or maybe even Horus the Egyptian God of war. I personally think Horus would be the one to actually do it mainly because of his aspects which are War but also Protection, but then again I might be think to much about Loki NEEDING to be alive.
Didnt Ares Cursed him too? Btw very good points in video keep up.
Not follow him tho, this is a new curse
Both Thoth and Athena are God's of knowledge/wisdom
You could also technically make a case for the idea that Odin could be a God of knowledge in a way, or at the very least he is very knowledgeable
Maybe the higher plane gods have to be Gods of extreme knowledge/wisdom because if they do, they'd have the mind to realize that there even is a higher plane of existence
I can’t wait till Kratos does Egypt, him and Atreus can be taking a vacation there and wouldn’t ya know it, Ra is not happy about it and shenanigans ensue.
Vacation? Poor Atreus, dont get his hopes up, since Kratos' idea of relaxation is combat training (as said in Lore and Legends) 😅😂
@@anonymousperson8211 You’re right now I imagine a montage of him killing Egyptian gods to the tune of Hoku-Perfect day with Kratos in a Hawaiian shirt and Atreus looking mortified 😂
@@donsolo7860 lol amazing 😂😂
Great theory like always
thanks man
@@KaptainKuba glad that you replied btw I’m not sure if you remember me but I’m abdullah
Wich blades are your Favorite, I love the Blades of Exile the most design wise.
Nostalgia wise the blades of Chaos
Sounds like a Great Reset it's in our movies, games and all media.
Gods stepping down and Gods taking thrones a giant restructuring of respective societies and cultures.
Kratos Even talks about how the cycle must end that it must be be better !
If this theory is true, then Kratos continues to be Athena's monster even when he believes he's not anymore. Interesting theory!!
I find it interesting that Loki (mcu) has 2 daggers he fights with and holds similar to kratos- Homage, perhaps?
Just seeing now what Loki would ask Kratos on his adventures to Norse Land and Kratos would say "I meet a warrior who had a shovel for a weapon. I don't know why but he is now the Ghost of Shovels" and with this resent one even Kratos would say "I killed a Hippo as for it was my destiny to do so". Sorry still can't wrap my head around that Dark Horse Comic.
I've a theory if kratos does die. I think he'd go to the higher plane of existence and Loki carries on with the journeys. Whether he uses his father's blades or not I don't know. You could have kratos appearing to Atreus throughout the games to help him on his journey. If he uses the blades maybe there's an enchantment or material that protects the wearer from burning when they use the blades.
Perhaps Athena being an immortal wraith of some sort has cursed him for releasing the power of Hope to the realm(/realms) as she showed disfust before at end of GoW3 and in 2018.
im pretty sure every pantheon exists on a different world or dimension, so when Cory Barlog said 'world' i think he just means the world of the norse pantheon and not all of existence. If thats the case it would make sense for the persians to attack greece because they would be from the same world. Tho im not sure so i could be wrong