Norse Myth Expert Reacts to God of War Ragnarok

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  • Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
  • Watch a Norse mythology expert react to God of War Ragnarok! We got Jackson Crawford, a Norse myth expert and media consultant for projects like Assassin's Creed Valhalla, back on IGN to react to the newly released God of War sequel. From God of War Ragnarok Odin's modern interpretation, to Ragnarok Thor's powerlifter body, shapeshifting, prophecies, and so much more, Jackson breaks down what works and what doesn't in Santa Monica Studio's God of War Ragnarök!
    00:00 - Intro
    00:19 - Loki Shapeshifting
    03:13 - Odin and Thor
    07:37 - Groa’s Prophecy
    09:17 - The Norns
    11:30 - Nidhogg
    13:26 - Garm
    14:21 - Heimdall
    16:26 - Final Thoughts
    #Gaming #GodOfWar #GodOfWarRagnarok
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  • @theslayer781
    @theslayer781 Год назад +15765

    Dude said never seen Asgard like that like if he saw it in real life

    • @jadenepia5960
      @jadenepia5960 Год назад +1289

      could you imagine a gow game written by this guy? zzzzzzz

    • @SithLordAnakin
      @SithLordAnakin Год назад +133

      🤣🤣🤣🤣☠

    • @noots_central1082
      @noots_central1082 Год назад +901

      Y’all never been?

    • @thegodofthegods1084
      @thegodofthegods1084 Год назад +497

      He’s seen different adaptations of it.

    • @WolfieGirlSheena
      @WolfieGirlSheena Год назад +630

      Pretty sure he's referring to the different versions in media. Like Marvel comics, MCU, Assassins Creed Valhalla and so on.

  • @JuT11
    @JuT11 Год назад +8369

    When you meet the Kelpie, Mimir says "You don't see many of those in these parts" and "In my land, they'd keep children away from the Lochs by telling them a Kelpie would drown them." - implying both Mimir and the Kelpie came from Scotland, something you could already guess from Mimir's accent in the game too

    • @kaloraan7987
      @kaloraan7987 Год назад +755

      Mimir is called Puck in the games and this more confirms than implies that he is a fairy from England/Scotland.

    • @essay2111
      @essay2111 Год назад +639

      @@kaloraan7987 there is a line in the game where he literally calls out the lady of the lake from arthurian mythology.

    • @MariNate1016
      @MariNate1016 Год назад +102

      This is common knowledge. Mimir says as much

    • @miamor2624
      @miamor2624 Год назад +300

      There are a lot of references to Celtic mythology and the British Islands in the Nordic saga, which makes me think they could be the setting for the next game. It would make sense, since Atreus is looking for more giants, and the Jotnar of Norse mythology have a lot of similarities with the Fomorians of Celtic myths. Not to mention, both territories are pretty close to each other.

    • @jordangoundry7491
      @jordangoundry7491 Год назад +97

      @@kaloraan7987 from Scotland not England, do not disrespect Scottish by calling them British or English or anything other than Scottish, we are a separate country and do not confuse that

  • @pv1866
    @pv1866 Год назад +7334

    Mjölnir did in fact bring a GOAT back to life. 7:15

    • @fernosbonos5394
      @fernosbonos5394 Год назад +70

      can the hammer bring dead humans back to life?

    • @RubenReacts
      @RubenReacts Год назад +93

      very funny comment 🤣

    • @juanfranciscozarate5283
      @juanfranciscozarate5283 Год назад +102

      True. In fact, Thor had 2 goats that carried him (like in Thor LAT). According to mythology he could ate them and brought them back anytime he wanted to thanks to Mjölnir.

    • @devilgene1083
      @devilgene1083 Год назад +158

      Yeah, he Literally bring THE GOAT back to life🤣🤣🤣

    • @RoyalKnightVIII
      @RoyalKnightVIII Год назад +5

      @@fernosbonos5394 no no, just delicious goats

  • @justice0911
    @justice0911 Год назад +7430

    Honestly, this is the most badass Thor I've ever seen. I'm keeping him, this is my thor from now on.

    • @neville2308
      @neville2308 Год назад +235

      Agreed. Love Ryan Hurst.

    • @peanut-junder
      @peanut-junder Год назад +405

      Thor and Surtr were my favorite new characters. When Surtr asked Atreus "You ever been in love? It's great" and he throws that little smirk...loved it.

    • @xSIJUx
      @xSIJUx Год назад +57

      @@peanut-junder yea that was cool. though it was hard not to look at DAT CHIN like he budget-Thanos

    • @peanut-junder
      @peanut-junder Год назад +57

      @@xSIJUx 😂. Surtr is Thanos if he snapped a few more times. Charred.

    • @jayln8613
      @jayln8613 Год назад +41

      That Thor was better then the marvel movie Thor that just came out

  • @Zara-tt7rh
    @Zara-tt7rh Год назад +3992

    Atreus is actually the grandson of Zeus on his fathers side, so that explains the shape shifting. (Loki could shape shift in the original myths, just cool writing incorporation)

    • @visionofsolace8961
      @visionofsolace8961 Год назад +1

      his mother's family, the jötnar, are also known for it so, yeah, he has the precedent

    • @dogge4649
      @dogge4649 Год назад +235

      Just gonna wait till atreus gets 30+ sons and daughter from different women

    • @Zara-tt7rh
      @Zara-tt7rh Год назад +27

      @@visionofsolace8961 very cool 🐺

    • @sigmaenjoyer7020
      @sigmaenjoyer7020 Год назад +192

      @@dogge4649 now that you think about it, both Loki and Zeus has the same taste of literally mating with anything.

    • @adderallsenpai
      @adderallsenpai Год назад +15

      No. Loki has always been a shapeshifter. Did you not watch the video?

  • @sahrotensf8997
    @sahrotensf8997 Год назад +3276

    They may have used the wrong sounds for them, but in the game they are referred to as Ravens, even if they accidentally used Crow sounds

    • @quantummidget
      @quantummidget Год назад +249

      Also Huginn and Muninn are shown to be notably larger, so maybe the rest are crows but his two hench-birds are ravens

    • @ManiinRD
      @ManiinRD Год назад +88

      Ravens and crows are on the same family basically almost same thing just some sizes differences

    • @Ceannadach
      @Ceannadach Год назад +27

      Yeah, but you’re a multiple million (or billion) dollar company and you can’t get the correct sound right? Seems kind of lazy.

    • @l4nd3r
      @l4nd3r Год назад +162

      It's not an accident. It's the same with the bald eagle, they use the sound of a Red-tailed hawk because it's much more impressive (or at least someone thought so way back when they were doing television/movies with sound).

    • @dylanbrown6468
      @dylanbrown6468 Год назад +15

      @@l4nd3r awesome comparison

  • @supapoopatroopa6882
    @supapoopatroopa6882 Год назад +2552

    Very funny how they skipped the part where mimir LITERALLY SAYS the kelpie isn’t usually here making his comment redundant

    • @sfsin3380
      @sfsin3380 Год назад +256

      and that nothing in the Norins lair can be guaranteed to be real. Most of it is illusions taken from their memory.

    • @thewolfgirlexpert
      @thewolfgirlexpert Год назад +200

      @@IchigoMait His point was that kelpies aren't in NORSE mythology, they are however in Celtic which Mimir comments on by saying they are not common in that part of the world and that they are where he came from. Implying that both Mimir and the kelpie came from Scotland.

    • @hiimchrisj
      @hiimchrisj Год назад +71

      I’m sure they just gave him random clips to respond to rather than him shirting through all the content of the game to understand all the context

    • @CampingforCool41
      @CampingforCool41 Год назад +13

      They just gave him clips to react to

    • @dowfreak7
      @dowfreak7 Год назад +45

      @@IchigoMait Tf are you even talking about. Little spoiler for ya, Kratos also didn't exist in Norse mythology.
      The world of GoW includes more than just Norse mythology. Other mythologies also exist, starting with Greek and even going toward Indian/Egyptian. It was NEVER just about Norse myths, so acting like "oh, Kelpie aren't Norse myth, therefore they don't belong" is 100% wrong.

  • @tgatt5759
    @tgatt5759 Год назад +800

    So the Norns are basically shoulda, coulda, woulda

    • @ms-terious
      @ms-terious Год назад +20

      Now you're out of time.

    • @RJALEXANDER777
      @RJALEXANDER777 Год назад +47

      He's outta line, but he's right.

    • @mosquitopyjamas9048
      @mosquitopyjamas9048 Год назад +13

      But is he out of touch?

    • @dekesask
      @dekesask Год назад +11

      @@mosquitopyjamas9048 but, is he outta his head when you're not around?

    • @RiverInsanity
      @RiverInsanity Год назад +1

      Well. You're not wrong 😂

  • @bbjuice7837
    @bbjuice7837 Год назад +3483

    For the whole "Thor flying" thing, you can see his hammer glow cause he's using it to propel his jump, it's not flight.

    • @azraelwolfsblood2902
      @azraelwolfsblood2902 Год назад

      That’s what flying is dumbass

    • @Stephen-N
      @Stephen-N Год назад +447

      He meant he's never done that in the stories. It's his goats that pull his chariot, but thor has never thrown his hammer and hung on to pull himself through the air. That's a marvel thing

    • @taraishot100
      @taraishot100 Год назад +86

      Sit down bro you’re talking about the Thor from Marvel he’s comparing Thor from the REAL mythology to the Thor in the Game! Wake up fool not everything you see on tv is correct

    • @noamias4897
      @noamias4897 Год назад +32

      Well he’s basically flying, especially in the scene with Kratos

    • @leonrussell9607
      @leonrussell9607 Год назад +23

      He does fly at the start of the game

  • @cyberhawks774
    @cyberhawks774 Год назад +1185

    Dude... he was my professor. Guy was hilarious in lectures.

  • @kacperwoch4368
    @kacperwoch4368 Год назад +4379

    Paradoxically, in Valhalla the linguistic stuff was apparently handled pretty well.

    • @normative
      @normative Год назад +622

      Because this guy consulted on it.

    • @kacperwoch4368
      @kacperwoch4368 Год назад +119

      @@normative Really? That would make a lot of sense.

    • @IceBloo
      @IceBloo Год назад +455

      @@kacperwoch4368 he literally says it in this video

    • @euantweed2658
      @euantweed2658 Год назад +173

      @@normative He said he worked on ac valhalla

    • @Hjartulv
      @Hjartulv Год назад +18

      AS:V Adapted norse culture perfectly. As it is

  • @OddlyIncredible
    @OddlyIncredible Год назад +466

    One thing to bear in mind about GoW:R is that Kratos' presence and actions upset the Ragnarok prophecies and disrupted/changed their fulfillments and outcomes. Near the end of the previous GoW game, Mimir pointed this out to Kratos: "you've _changed_ things."

    • @wurmrave6831
      @wurmrave6831 Год назад +41

      Biggest example in the previous game being the death of Magni and Modi. Kratos destroyed fate

    • @victorkreig6089
      @victorkreig6089 Год назад +2

      Nah, see that's the worst part about the sloppy writing of the entire GoW series
      The only reason Kratos isn't a stain on the ground is because the ability to kill gods was also in Pandora's box and he gained that ability
      Problem is *that's only for the Greek gods*, by no stretch of the imagination should that carry over to other mythologies of any kind making his entire existence outside the Greek mythology pointless and only there for money grabbing because Sony needs a gravy train as they no longer have any actual first party IPs that anyone cares about

    • @TheMas925
      @TheMas925 Год назад +61

      @@victorkreig6089 He didn't carry over any of his abilities from the Greek land to Norse. There is a sequence in the lake where Mimir asks Kratos about the magic he wielded in Greek lands and if he can do it again. to which Kratos replies that he hasnt been able to even if he tried. to which Freya remarks that those abilities got lost when the Greek pantheon got toppled
      Conversely he gains the ability to kill Gods because in the 2018 game, his axe gets Eitr imbued by Jormungandr which is how he is able to kill Gods.
      hope that clears it up

    • @WombRaider001
      @WombRaider001 9 месяцев назад +19

      @@TheMas925also, Norse gods are not completely immortal, they age very slowly and are very durable, but unlike Greek gods there is nothing saying that they CANT be killed by mortals.

  • @azraelsblade
    @azraelsblade Год назад +1801

    Artistic originality… and then there’s The Mask from The Mask. Which is based on an artifact called “Loki’s Mask.”

    • @antonoakenshield7362
      @antonoakenshield7362 Год назад +78

      I’ve Wouldn’t have known that if I’ve never seen Son of the Mask. 👍🏼

    • @azraelsblade
      @azraelsblade Год назад +19

      @@antonoakenshield7362 it’s in the comics that the movies were loosely based on

    • @kavalkahn
      @kavalkahn Год назад +82

      @@azraelsblade Not exactly. Jim Carrey's movie introduced the idea of Loki, but in the comic the mask is apparently of African origins and is made of jade, like Mayan's ruler Pakal.

    • @FarikoWishless
      @FarikoWishless Год назад +26

      @@kavalkahnLol of course the African thing gets changed to a European thing for no reason 😂 Hollywood

    • @barniehd8358
      @barniehd8358 Год назад

      @@FarikoWishless Just like every white thing turns black in releases the last 5 years or so

  • @angrygamer6584
    @angrygamer6584 Год назад +1198

    Honestly, love how they did Thor in Ragnorok. Love how he sounds and looks badass!

    • @Lemontarts01
      @Lemontarts01 Год назад +9

      Dudes literally a punching bag after kratos and him duke it once

    • @angrygamer6584
      @angrygamer6584 Год назад +25

      @@Lemontarts01 2 words, “Plot Armor”!

    • @rarecrom
      @rarecrom Год назад +22

      @@Lemontarts01 no, the only person that treats him like a punching bag is Odin

    • @jornavyr2459
      @jornavyr2459 Год назад +2

      Let's be honest, you guys would have loved it if Thor was a wiry little crack fiend.

    • @fambrough2394
      @fambrough2394 Год назад

      Gary Bertier from Remember the Titans

  • @CrepeSuzetteDance
    @CrepeSuzetteDance Год назад +336

    It's official: Kratos is GOAT

  • @chasesmith9681
    @chasesmith9681 Год назад +583

    As a bird person myself those are clearly Ravens. Not only in color and shape but the main teller is the low Croaking call they have as aposed to a crows cawing sound.

    • @clownsushi
      @clownsushi Год назад +41

      thank you!! That really bothered me when he said that

    • @HKNYN1
      @HKNYN1 Год назад +17

      Do you know bird law?

    • @craigstoner2632
      @craigstoner2632 Год назад +5

      What's the word?

    • @MrSkinnyWhale
      @MrSkinnyWhale Год назад +4

      I'm still not over what Tammy did to you 😢

    • @edwardarquette3884
      @edwardarquette3884 Год назад +2

      Remember Blood Ridge?

  • @SonnyFRST
    @SonnyFRST Год назад +163

    Trivia: in GoW 4 (or 2018, seriously they should've given it it's own name) the world serpent spits out the axe back to Kratos when it first shows up, but what many people don't notice is the a textbox saying "Eitr Imbued" in the corner of the screen.
    Likely the serpent's venom got imbued into the axe, which would explain why Thor still had that Axe cut in his stomach the next we see him.

    • @sneb1886
      @sneb1886 Год назад +21

      I've seen this fan theory thrown around a lot but it was shot down by devs as 'gameplay reasons only power up'.
      In mythology, Norse gods aren't immortal, they can die from any cause - natural or otherwise. Thor is still wounded as there's been no indication that Norse gods can heal at will, unlike the Greek (immortal) pantheon.
      Note: the plot kind of links to this with Odin wanting the same protection spell as Baldur to prevent wounding/death.

    • @SonnyFRST
      @SonnyFRST Год назад +7

      @@sneb1886 Welp, if devs said so can't argue.

    • @marc0lin00
      @marc0lin00 Год назад +3

      @@SonnyFRST devs never said something about it actually

    • @trapmoney780
      @trapmoney780 Год назад +4

      This theory schlaps, me like

    • @cdoggo3352
      @cdoggo3352 Год назад

      ​@@sneb1886 Source?

  • @malekithsilverheart2357
    @malekithsilverheart2357 Год назад +253

    This interpretation of mjolnir did bring a goat back to life. Kratos being the G.O.A.T.

  • @issyd2366
    @issyd2366 Год назад +767

    We do have adaptations of our own of the Norse myths here in Scandinavia and in those, both Thor and Odin and all the other gods have kept their original personalities and appearance including the chariot with the flying goats.

    • @Craig-pm2kc
      @Craig-pm2kc Год назад

      Are there hoes on the chariot?

    • @jcshark7023
      @jcshark7023 Год назад +14

      Why wouldn’t the professional expert in the video mention this

    • @nathantomaneng7259
      @nathantomaneng7259 Год назад +27

      Same reason he must’ve missed stating that Norse and Celtic mythology has deep roots in Germanic paganism.
      He may only be knowledgeable if it specifically pertains to Norse myth and language.

    • @DREADTHORN
      @DREADTHORN Год назад +39

      Or IGN just edited the video down. Most of these kinds of videos are edited to hell and back because there's a lot of content to go over and normies think all professors are boring if they labor any given point so this is probably like 18 minutes of 'greatest hits' from a 2+ hour recording.

    • @faust8218
      @faust8218 Год назад +6

      @@jcshark7023 Because he's an expert on the Norse languages and Sagas, not media adaptations of them.

  • @LazyDev27
    @LazyDev27 Год назад +326

    6:50 Thor wasn't flying, he was falling with style

    • @PartStupid
      @PartStupid Год назад +14

      He does fly a few times in the game without the hammer. Though could just be really high jumping.

    • @RustySkullBones72
      @RustySkullBones72 Год назад +9

      @@PartStupid he’s jumping, you see it later in the game

    • @nol1m1tz33
      @nol1m1tz33 Год назад +7

      @@PartStupid nah against the world serpent he was flying u could see the ball of lightning constantly hitting him back

    • @juliosalazar7273
      @juliosalazar7273 Год назад +1

      Reach for the skyyyy

    • @joshuajohnson1763
      @joshuajohnson1763 Год назад

      Thor doesn't really fly its like the hammer takes him to whereever the hammer points towards

  • @brodieknight772
    @brodieknight772 Год назад +639

    I'm a big fan of Professor Crawford. Not IGN, but I'll take it

  • @viper2785
    @viper2785 Год назад +300

    12:04 It's cool to hear the loose translation for some of these words. So this actually makes sense here now, as she seems to be trying to reveal something, like dispelling an illusion, as opposed to opening something. Also, the second part is her closing a portal they call realm tears, which is what cuts off the head, so in that context it makes a bit more sense even if it is an elementary, literal use of the words.

    • @seanmesser3602
      @seanmesser3602 Год назад +12

      Was looking for this comment

    • @RJALEXANDER777
      @RJALEXANDER777 Год назад +2

      That's interesting. Thanks.

    • @sawri
      @sawri Год назад +1

      In norwegian «åpenbaring» means revelation. Seems similar to «opinbera» 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @undefeatedgaul3201
      @undefeatedgaul3201 5 месяцев назад +2

      all the old norse is wrong, all the runs are wrong, and its not debatable. Its a fundamental lack of understanding the language. They literally just googled a bunch of words and slapped them together

    • @rainbowsong909
      @rainbowsong909 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@undefeatedgaul3201 you must be fun at parties

  • @christiananthonyxd
    @christiananthonyxd Год назад +292

    Love how you picked apart the crow vs raven thing . Visibly they look like crows but the game does indeed confirm they’re ravens , as the game long mission describes them as Ravens , or Odins Eyes

    • @isaacwalker5290
      @isaacwalker5290 Год назад +10

      Ravens sound different and look different. If it looks like one and it “quacks” like one… it’s a crow. Call it what you want tho.

    • @graybonesau
      @graybonesau Год назад +23

      @@isaacwalker5290 looks like a raven to me

    • @tiagovanhoogdalem6572
      @tiagovanhoogdalem6572 Год назад +8

      Don’t forget that we have a load of species with ravens. Like to point that out. Also crows are related to ravens, so they’re a lot off similarities

    • @christiananthonyxd
      @christiananthonyxd Год назад +1

      @@tiagovanhoogdalem6572 very true , some things are simpler than we think lol

    • @Cazammaf
      @Cazammaf Год назад +10

      @@isaacwalker5290it’s a raven. The game specifically states so. Huginn and Muninn are Odin’s ravens. All throughout this game and the last game they’re referred to as ravens. They may look similar to crows, but they are ravens canonically so there’s no reason to argue.

  • @PapiBlackarot
    @PapiBlackarot Год назад +252

    Well the kelpie being there could be because Mimir is said to be from another land and Tyr has travelled to places with different pantheons. (Greece and Egypt are confirmed by the treasures in his temple)

    • @lemmisleep
      @lemmisleep Год назад

      Scotland is also confirmed from the seax and also as another person has said it could just have been an illusion made by the norns.

    • @paulgrattan3885
      @paulgrattan3885 Год назад +3

      Ra would bitchslap Odin and Thor. Ra basically battles his evil twin brother Apophis (the closest being to a devil the Egyptians had) every night until the end of the universe. Ra basically fights back the dark and cold the black void between the stars of the universe every night.

    • @vedbergsmagic3217
      @vedbergsmagic3217 Год назад

      @@paulgrattan3885 thor and odin were really weak in this game tho... :(

    • @michaelshahoe
      @michaelshahoe Год назад +3

      @@vedbergsmagic3217 Thor hit Jjormungandr back into the past isnt "weak". Odin killed Ymir in the game, the creator of the Norse mythology just like the actual mythology and we dont even know if Odin had help of his two brothers in the game. If he did it solo, it's even more impressive than the actual mytho.

  • @michaeldeely2044
    @michaeldeely2044 Год назад +244

    In the game Odin has his ravens. The crows are just other birds that he controls around the nine realms and at some point in the final fight he just starts throwing flocks of crows at you, but the birds that seem to have personalities and work along side oden in the game are ravens

    • @ilar1288
      @ilar1288 Год назад +50

      The birds around the realms are very much ravens, they're explicitly called ravens often

    • @XenoRaptor-98765
      @XenoRaptor-98765 7 месяцев назад +2

      In many cultures ravens,crows, and magpies are know to be the messengers of the divine.

  • @edwardvilla3228
    @edwardvilla3228 Год назад +270

    WIth the addition of Kratos as Loki's father meant that Faye, Loki's mother, defied Destiny by marrying Kratos instead of her destined partner, so they were wandering away from the destiny they were supposed to be on and Ragnarok begins earlier than expected.

    • @namastehindustan9879
      @namastehindustan9879 Год назад +2

      Is that what really happen?

    • @SWFK96
      @SWFK96 Год назад +71

      Kratos is Farbauti, it’s the giants name for him, just as Atreus is Loki.

    • @lgolem09l
      @lgolem09l Год назад +13

      Well, the entire canon prophecy of Ragnarök from "our world" turned out to be a lie to cloud Odin's vision

    • @phixter
      @phixter Год назад +23

      No, she did marry who she is supposed to, so destiny is intact, Kratos is his greek name, Farbauti is his norse name in GOWR.

    • @jonathanpilcher337
      @jonathanpilcher337 Год назад +3

      Like other's have explained Kratos is Farbauti

  • @thesaturdayproject6345
    @thesaturdayproject6345 Год назад +107

    Idk about the myths but the way norns function in the game seems to be in line with their names, what has happened to a person in the past shapes their choices in the present, which lets the norns know what should happen to them in their future so as they basically say in the game they dont decide fate, but through their knowledge of people they can read it pretty accurately

    • @betteroywoth2445
      @betteroywoth2445 Год назад +16

      They act like a narrator from a tragic comedy for me

    • @333dae
      @333dae Год назад +1

      they’re just magical profilers

  • @AlexJasso100
    @AlexJasso100 Год назад +89

    0:55 Hrolf Kraki is actually in-game as the Berserker King

    • @7heRequiem
      @7heRequiem Год назад +8

      And so is Bodvar as one of the berserkers with a partner!

    • @hochigaming14yearsago90
      @hochigaming14yearsago90 Год назад +4

      Yeah! It sounded familiar. Thanks for reminding

  • @victorrogalski9920
    @victorrogalski9920 Год назад +408

    Awesome vid! Love to see experts talk about their field!

  • @randomdaveUK
    @randomdaveUK Год назад +310

    Just wanted to point out in the second part the birds aren't crows. They're ravens and intrinsic to the huge twist in the game's story

    • @dragendebara1733
      @dragendebara1733 Год назад +21

      he saying the sound ravens dont sound like that

    • @Moonman209
      @Moonman209 Год назад +8

      @@dragendebara1733 So he's a bird expert now?

    • @TheBrokenSigma278
      @TheBrokenSigma278 Год назад +40

      @@Moonman209 you dont have to be an expert to tell the difference

    • @trunksbriefs4132
      @trunksbriefs4132 Год назад +20

      @@Moonman209 He's an enthusiast on birds, has said so on his channel.

    • @SoulxWeaver
      @SoulxWeaver Год назад +19

      @@Moonman209 crows Caw, ravens croak
      Also ravens are like twice the size of crows

  • @jarlbregadan914
    @jarlbregadan914 Год назад +24

    So glad to see Jackson getting gigs like this. This man is a bloody cultural treasure. Everyone, go read his translations.

  • @azulesmalls5514
    @azulesmalls5514 Год назад +202

    Actually, the special power that Mjolnir has to bring goats back to life does happen in Rick Riordan's Magnus Chase series.
    It's played off as a way for Thor to get infinite food.

    • @Fly-the-Light
      @Fly-the-Light Год назад +25

      That’s what it is in the myth too

    • @Tattle-by-Tale
      @Tattle-by-Tale Год назад +1

      I've not read anything by Riordan since the Percy Jackson series and a couple of the Roman books. Didn't know he had something about Norse gods

    • @darthplagueis13
      @darthplagueis13 Год назад +7

      It literally is a way for him to get infinite food. Every evening he butchers the two rams who pull his chariot and eats them and every morning they come back to life. He just needs to be careful not to break any bones whilst doing so because that would result in an actual injury that would need to heal naturally.

    • @lizardkid666
      @lizardkid666 Год назад

      ​@Rune Kristensen Marvels take on Loki in the show just had me mentality laughing because remember sleipnir

    • @RichardStrong86
      @RichardStrong86 Год назад

      The goats coming back to life is also covered in the Iron Druids book series, in which Thor was universally hated.

  • @zachanderson7338
    @zachanderson7338 Год назад +21

    Always thought Thor was using the momentum from the hammer to get so high not that he was flying. It would make sense given this is Ragnarok and all the aesir should have developed their skills and tactics to the fullest by the end times.

  • @reilley26
    @reilley26 Год назад +77

    Would have loved to see his review of the entire game storyline rather than just occasional clips.

  • @odinsonthered9226
    @odinsonthered9226 Год назад +541

    Homie is finally getting the recognition he deserves

    • @akkibajaj705
      @akkibajaj705 Год назад +4

      What did he do?

    • @Largentina.
      @Largentina. Год назад +30

      @@akkibajaj705 He's doing it in this video. What kind of question is this?

    • @urbainleverrier1
      @urbainleverrier1 Год назад +49

      @@akkibajaj705 He's pretty renowned in his field of expertise but he's not exactly known everywhere else, basically he's one of the guys that makes us understand old mythological stuff that would otherwise be just random symbols and logos

    • @ddarkman1festt
      @ddarkman1festt Год назад +8

      @@akkibajaj705 he translated the poetic edda into English

  • @foodannihilator8744
    @foodannihilator8744 Год назад +91

    if I'm not mistaken when Freya cut off niddhogs head, she closed the gateway so that the gateway took the head with it, hence why she said lock whatever also, Loki/Atreas later in the game became able to control what he turned to (to some degree at least). The not controlling what he turned into was just his baby steps into what he would become

    • @obliviouscrab3125
      @obliviouscrab3125 Год назад +8

      Ur rite, they didint explain wtf was going on to the guy

    • @the_real_rascal
      @the_real_rascal Год назад +1

      ​@Oblivious Crab yeah. It's like he watched a bunch of clips with zero context.

  • @TheHarracane
    @TheHarracane Год назад +44

    4:33 when you get to the part where Atreus goes to Asgard, it is mentioned that the birds are Ravens

  • @filiphovland2462
    @filiphovland2462 Год назад +29

    So disappointed he didn't go into the story and especially Ragnarokr as the event. Would be really interesting to hear his thoughts on how they handled that

  • @T.BG822
    @T.BG822 Год назад +66

    Couple notes:
    - Loki learns to control the shapeshifting.
    - The game doesn't really, truly differentiate between ravens and crows - neither do some old myths, to be fair - but what's depicted in the game is something I'd call NotRavens more than anything. They're raven-sized, crow shaped, crow sounding, but move like hawks.
    - Thor doesn't fly in the game, no more than Hulk typically does; you picked it up that they were going for powerful jumping.
    - A general note about the type of poetic license taken by the game: 'son' and 'daughter' are taken as, at different times, created, revived, cared for, et al.
    - Mimir and the Kelpie are both foreigners to The Nine in the canon of the game - it's heavily implied that the various pantheons have entirely separate bubbles, containing worlds and realms which can be travelled between but not in a typical method of land, sea, or air.
    - The fate speaking as others do isn't speaking 'the future' she's speaking 'the path one is on,' she's being used as a proof of possibility being accounted for, which seems in line with her more historical interpretations.
    I really hope they do get a linguist on the team going forward though, especially with the implications of the ending, the artefacts you find in game, and a few other sprinkled bits.

    • @ratchetfuture2
      @ratchetfuture2 Год назад +11

      Maybe I’m remembering wrong, but wasn’t Thor flying in his fight with jormungdr at the end of the game?

    • @T.BG822
      @T.BG822 Год назад +7

      @@ratchetfuture2 Strictly speaking, I'd say 'no' but a simple answer might be yes.
      Similar to Odin's transporting, Thor seemed able to move through lightning and through controlling Mjolnir - I'd call it indirect flight at best, and assisted flight is in line with Norse 'canon' such as it is

    • @graybonesau
      @graybonesau Год назад +1

      they're raven sized and shaped

  • @gingerdom5623
    @gingerdom5623 Год назад +24

    Yeah there are a couple pieces of lore which address some of the things he mentioned such as the norns defining someone's actions by their predicitibility and fafe and that garm hrothvindnr is garm and doesn't have a soul, hence atreus put fenrir's soul into him. (Fenrir being a seperate being with, originally, no significance)

  • @TMLF_81
    @TMLF_81 11 месяцев назад +6

    Someone should’ve gave him the context behind the freya words cause they definitely made sense😂

  • @TimL1980
    @TimL1980 Год назад +92

    There is a danish animated film (probably from the 70s or so) that features the "goat trick"! It's simply called "Valhalla"

    • @notwokevikingrules401
      @notwokevikingrules401 Год назад +2

      1986

    • @TimL1980
      @TimL1980 Год назад

      @@notwokevikingrules401 😁was too lazy to look it up - but my son watched it 2 weeks ago 🙂

    • @speedyspaghetti437
      @speedyspaghetti437 Год назад +1

      Love that movie

    • @jompe84
      @jompe84 Год назад +2

      It’s based on the comicseries with the same name (Valhalla) by danish cartoonist Peter Madsen.

    • @blindphilosopher
      @blindphilosopher Год назад +2

      If you read "Norse Mythology" by Neil Gaiman you will also encounter this "goat trick".

  • @YesThatWasa
    @YesThatWasa Год назад +389

    "Hasnt bought a goat back to life"
    Kratos is G.O.A.T.
    your move

  • @andrewwilson803
    @andrewwilson803 Год назад +72

    This dude just dropped some bird law on us.

  • @CaptainMera
    @CaptainMera Год назад +162

    When Atreus turned into a wolf, it reminded me of the story of Cú Chulainn. Celtic myth has been hinted at and maybe it's a nudge to it. Perhaps in an upcoming game.
    *edit: autocorrect changed Atreus to Asterius for some reason. 😑

    • @celticrebel5229
      @celticrebel5229 Год назад +4

      But Santana didn't change into a wolf he grew in size and strength with a bloodlust

    • @madmaddox3451
      @madmaddox3451 Год назад +33

      who tf is asterius

    • @jeromes9186
      @jeromes9186 Год назад +1

      @@madmaddox3451 lol

    • @marseldagistani1989
      @marseldagistani1989 Год назад +1

      @@celticrebel5229 and his skin shifted ans peeled

    • @lopezroilans.8384
      @lopezroilans.8384 Год назад +1

      @@madmaddox3451 isn't Asterius the true name of the Minotaur?

  • @tauruzzilverz7511
    @tauruzzilverz7511 Год назад +104

    Mjolnir did bring a goat back to life, Kratos is the GOAT! :D

  • @ianprososki6804
    @ianprososki6804 Год назад +57

    Anybody else notice, Odin's hat looks like an old school Santa hat?

    • @ernestschmidt8761
      @ernestschmidt8761 Год назад +8

      That's because the legend of Santa borrowed heavily from legends of Odin :^)

    • @W1ckedshort
      @W1ckedshort Год назад +2

      Odin IS Santa. Father Christmas himself. Almost everything about the legend is about Odin.

  • @lurkr00
    @lurkr00 Год назад +36

    Ey pretty thrifty editing when he said that mjolnir brings goats back to life and then cutting it with kratos being shocked back to life. You can put 2 and 2 together and basically get the metaphor.

  • @eruannster
    @eruannster Год назад +9

    On the point of language, when using one of his runic bow attacks Atreus shouts "Uppnhopa!" (or something similar to that) which sounds very similar to the Swedish expression "upp och hoppa" which is something you say to people who have overslept and should get out of bed. (It literally translates into "up and jump" but is used as a more of a "go and get them" or "get out of bed, you lazy bum" kind of thing.)
    It just sounds a little bit weird and out of place when used in that context that he's shouting at his arrows to get out of bed.

  • @Ecclesia_
    @Ecclesia_ Год назад +15

    Freya saying 'opinbera' which apparently means 'to make public' sounds very much like 'openbaar' which means 'public' in Dutch... interesting :)

    • @jarls5890
      @jarls5890 Год назад +4

      I'm pretty sure it is "Åpenbar/Åpenbarelse" which means Reveal/Revalation in modern day Norwegian.
      The word for public in Norwegian would be "offentlig".

    • @willmurphy4073
      @willmurphy4073 Год назад +1

      @@jarls5890 men på norsk kan du jo si "åpenbar" som betyr lik "open" med betydningen av "transparent" så kan den nok brukes "til å gjøre offentlig". Tror det ikke er galt å vurdere.

  • @ZippiestArc2206
    @ZippiestArc2206 Год назад +25

    4:35 He says Odins birds should be ravens not crows, within the game you hunt down Odin’s Ravens

    • @badfriction4247
      @badfriction4247 Год назад +6

      They say they are in the game but they're too small to be Ravens

    • @graybonesau
      @graybonesau Год назад

      @@badfriction4247 they certainly aren't, they are quite large

    • @KC-gb4vr
      @KC-gb4vr Год назад +2

      They sound and look like crows though

  • @ishlahulfikri9333
    @ishlahulfikri9333 Год назад +20

    ive been waiting his reaction video 😂

  • @AtomicTitan1954
    @AtomicTitan1954 Год назад +13

    4:43 They are Ravens, they just look like Crows because honestly crows and ravens look similar.

  • @cuklyxd9031
    @cuklyxd9031 Год назад +3

    6:49 if you see the scene frame by frame you will see that has his arm full stretch, that will be thor calling mjolnir while still is on his belt, lifting him up in the air

  • @caseyrogers573
    @caseyrogers573 Год назад +7

    Hey, I’m a linguist and a gamer and I’m so happy seeing Jackson here!

  • @jordan9503
    @jordan9503 Год назад +29

    please do another video explaining what the 9 realms were described as vs what they are in game

    • @Kez_DXX
      @Kez_DXX Год назад +1

      Jackson might have a video about that on his channel actually, just without any comparison to the realms as depicted in the games.

  • @user-ol7bt4wp1j
    @user-ol7bt4wp1j Год назад +93

    On the kelpie point and so on
    The Celtic "realm" or culture and norse culture have interacted with each other as well as are kinda entrenched in each, kinda also goes a little for slavic mythology.
    Norse, Celtic and Slavonic Mythology and culture have heavily borrowed and influenced from each other or are generally just similar in dynamic
    Similar to how greeks and romans did
    Or in a similar way to lots of Asian culture and beliefs for example india and china or China and Japan.

    • @vergil8833
      @vergil8833 Год назад +5

      No they're just all indo-european. They come from the same root so they have alot of things in common.

    • @JohnnyWalker1077
      @JohnnyWalker1077 Год назад +9

      @@vergil8833 Yes, this is true but overall the mythology of the northern people (Norse, Celtic & Slavic/Baltic) is in general more similar to each other than the greek one is. It is of course due to the territorial connection throughout the centuries.

    • @cuchulainnenjoyer
      @cuchulainnenjoyer Год назад +10

      There's a theory that the Vanir are an accommodation of the Celtic Gods by the Norse after some time of cultural interplay

    • @vergil8833
      @vergil8833 Год назад +4

      @@JohnnyWalker1077 Theres a source bias there since we have few sources about the northern european mythologies, so similarities are easier to assume. But for the greeks we have alot of the mythology avaliable to us, giving us more opportunities to find differences.

    • @sfsin3380
      @sfsin3380 Год назад +1

      The game make it clear that nothing in the Norrin lair can be trusted to be real and much of it is illusion taken from Kratos, Freya and Mimir's memories.
      Mimir is heavily implied to be a Celtic fae who like Kratos jumped ship and went to the 9 realms. Mimir also specifically say the Kelpie was a creature from his homeland.
      I'm pretty sure the Kelpie wasn't real and the whole thing was just a way for the Norins to have a grand entrance. They clearly like messing with people

  • @bobiborisov6784
    @bobiborisov6784 Год назад +39

    It was soooo cool when he said the hammer can bring goats back to life and then it shows Thor bringing Kratos back to life. Cuz he’s the goooooaaaat !!!

  • @merlinwizz3997
    @merlinwizz3997 Год назад +39

    "Here's a toothpick with Muffins spirit in it".
    That got me 😂

  • @Geeler
    @Geeler Год назад +50

    12:30 She is literally locking the portal back up, ripping his head off. Come on man

    • @undefeatedgaul3201
      @undefeatedgaul3201 5 месяцев назад

      again more complaining when you literally know 0 about the language or how its used lmfao. embarrassing

  • @Thejigholeman
    @Thejigholeman Год назад +95

    Thor having the power lifter physique actually makes a bit of sense, considering how absurdly heavy mjolnir is.
    He literally has a magical weight lifting belt which more than doubles his great strength (Megingjörð) and magical weight lifting gloves (Járngreipr)

    • @stevenbishop1782
      @stevenbishop1782 Год назад +4

      Yeah but it contradicts What Kratos said about the strength not coming from his body and smaller characters have lifted Mjolnir with ease which means they most likely went with an inheritance approach because Odin and Thrud lifted it easy without such equipment.

    • @trillsam7726
      @trillsam7726 Год назад +2

      @@stevenbishop1782 well nobody else tried to lift it. Kratos tried to catch it in full speed (not lift it)

    • @Noone-wp6vj
      @Noone-wp6vj Год назад

      @@trillsam7726thors daughter did it with ease

    • @trillsam7726
      @trillsam7726 Год назад

      @@Noone-wp6vj yup but she didn’t do it when Odin threw it at her tho…

    • @randomman8775
      @randomman8775 Год назад

      Do you not remember Odin hurling mjolnir in ragnarok

  • @bquetzal
    @bquetzal Год назад +5

    On the thing about Thor flying: he actually doesn't fly at all, but you can see that whenever he launches himself that Mjolnir starts to glow. That implies that he uses Mjolnir on his hip to propel himself upward.

  • @kriegsmariner_14
    @kriegsmariner_14 6 дней назад +1

    The walls of Asgard were, at least in this game series, built by Hrimthur Thamursson, a Jötunn. Given that the Jötnar have a close association with mountains, the devs probably figured he’d make the walls like those in his homeland.

  • @angelcardona5511
    @angelcardona5511 Год назад +1

    It’s funny cause mimir references that the kelpie is something he saw in Scotland when he would travel

  • @ic6721
    @ic6721 Год назад +4

    "They probably do not know what lions are."
    Fylgja: Am I a joke to you ?

  • @HowManyTimes234
    @HowManyTimes234 Год назад +13

    Just so you know, for most of the sound effects used for ravens in film, they also use crow caws. They have a stronger and more impactful sound profile for the human ear.

  • @n-tree3003
    @n-tree3003 Год назад +7

    Dr. Crawford, what do you think of GOW Ragnarok’s portrayal of Thrúd? I’m very curious of that character.

    • @whisped8145
      @whisped8145 Год назад +3

      Thrud is not an active character in the mythology. The only story involving her by name is when she wants to marry a dwarf and her father, Thor isn't too happy about that nonsense, and keeps talking with the guy throughout the night, asking him questions upon questions, until the sun comes up and the dwarf turns to stone. Problem solved.
      There is no description of Thrud, and the way she looks in the game my bet is on some self-insert from the company that made the game. She does not come after Sif at all.

  • @GrayCatbird1
    @GrayCatbird1 9 месяцев назад +1

    It does raise the question of how an adaptation that's slavishly faithful to each and every known detail about the mythology would look like. Really fascinating stuff.

  • @DyrianLightbringer
    @DyrianLightbringer Год назад +15

    Freya said the write words "lock" and "rift" but in many fantasy stories, casting spells doesn't always use the same linguistic rules as a normal conversation. Perhaps to cast a spell, you do need to speak a different conjugation of the verb.

  • @YouTubeHandleEtc.
    @YouTubeHandleEtc. Год назад +58

    It's funny seeing everyone in the comments get annoyed about the accuracy of a game series about a demigod who single handedly destroyed the entire Greek pantheon.

    • @garyhall2770
      @garyhall2770 Год назад +5

      Aphortite is still alive. And possibly had Kratos' kid too.

    • @TGPDrunknHick
      @TGPDrunknHick Год назад +1

      @@garyhall2770 most of the gods are alive. he didn't even kill all the olympians. Artemis, Apollo, Dionysus, Hestia, Demeter all surived let alone the hundreds of minor deities. it'd be funny if it wasn't so frustrating that people keep using the 'killed an entire pantheon' thing in arguments.

    • @KC-gb4vr
      @KC-gb4vr Год назад +3

      @@TGPDrunknHick the whole "killing an entire pantheon" thing is mostly just an exaggeration, plus, Kratos killed the main Gods in Greek Mythology (Zeus, Poseidon, Hades, etc.) and wrecked the entirety of Olympus, which probably caused the deaths of the others Greek Gods as well indirectly.

  • @lordhooty639
    @lordhooty639 Год назад +24

    wait, the use of 'opinbera' makes a lot of sense in this context. Freya is 'making public' the hidden location of her ability to be human in the other realms. it is literally making something invisible visible.

  • @TheZarcasm
    @TheZarcasm Год назад +2

    What Freya said kinda makes sense as a mistake of language. In swedish ”riva” could translate to scratch in some context but most common would be tear, as in tear something apart. Just happens they call these portals ”tears” so that would explain the confusion.

  • @kingshadow8782
    @kingshadow8782 Год назад +11

    Very interesting!

  • @WisdomThumbs
    @WisdomThumbs Год назад +3

    This guy does great videos on old Norse language and culture, and its neighboring languages and cultures.

  • @itstheref
    @itstheref Год назад +40

    Love this series. 🔥

  • @Ferz2006
    @Ferz2006 Год назад +1

    7:16 There is a scene in the animated film Valhalla from 1986, where Thor uses Mjölnir, to resurrect goats

  • @striderm
    @striderm Год назад +60

    It’s just videos like this that make me wish they could get the expert in with the devs so they could have a discussion

    • @anothnypitt443
      @anothnypitt443 Год назад +39

      They do usually
      Crawford (guy in the vid and my former professor) was consulted for work on AC Valhalla.
      The issue though is that for GoW they aren't trying to be "beat for beat" an accurate representation of the Norse-Celt-Pict-etc mythos, they are just using it as a background for telling their story. Versus something like Valhalla that has actual historical clashes between Anglo/Saxon and Norse raiders, so in that case they sorta HAVE to have consultants on the history of the cultures at war.

  • @slumpywumpy4166
    @slumpywumpy4166 Год назад +19

    “Here’s a toothpick with Muffins in it” 😭😭😭

  • @jigssscupid8836
    @jigssscupid8836 Год назад

    Respect to Dr Crawford. Best in the field of Norse mythology.

  • @lieongaming3874
    @lieongaming3874 Год назад +23

    THEY SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THIS GUY FOR THE LANGUAGE!! HE IS AWESOME👏🏽👏🏽

  • @jacksonhuesman7925
    @jacksonhuesman7925 Год назад +24

    thor actually did bring the GOAT back to life in the game

  • @tobiaschemnitz5649
    @tobiaschemnitz5649 Год назад +5

    In regards to Mjølner bringing goats back to life, there is a Danish Cartoon, simply called Valhalla. He does it there.

  • @QUANTUMJOKER
    @QUANTUMJOKER 4 месяца назад

    What's the reference Jackson makes during the segment about Nidhogg?
    Something something Los Sandwiches?

  • @WarsunGames
    @WarsunGames Год назад

    3:44 The description was he was Red woolly hair and a thick red beard and swarthy in color. An was as big as a bear. Odin was also by the same description except he was only described by his beard and missing eye.

  • @connormasten
    @connormasten Год назад +36

    Jackson also did work on AC Valhalla for the runes in the game, his channel is a wealth of knowledge on the subjects and his translations are very linguistically friendly for non-academics.

  • @jrsviking215
    @jrsviking215 Год назад +30

    opinbera is close to åpenbære in norwegian meaning reveal so im guessing thats what they meant by it. a direct translation is open-bare so the use here isnt to bad considdering she revealed the hidden roots

  • @Sunaki1000
    @Sunaki1000 Год назад +3

    It sould be noted what Niddhogg was eating the Roots of the World Tree to damage it, it did not protect it.
    And Garm was the one who killed Tyr so thats interesting considering he became Fenrir, and Odin became Tyr.
    Oh and Tyrs Weapon of Choice was apparently a Sword not a Spear.

    • @TGPDrunknHick
      @TGPDrunknHick Год назад +1

      Tyrs weapon may be interesting because by name you've probably realised Tyr was Odin all along. Odin famed for his spear. might have been foreshadowing. there was quite a lot of it.

  • @flik9149
    @flik9149 Год назад +1

    When she cuts off Nidhoggs head shes closes the portal it was trying to escape with. So with its head already through the portal she closes it cutting off its head.

  • @ELPRES1DENTE45
    @ELPRES1DENTE45 Год назад +9

    He's one of the best people to ask. Love his books.

  • @maniacalmurderer4123
    @maniacalmurderer4123 Год назад +14

    The reason that Thor flys in the GOW universe is actually because of the physics surrounding the hammer.
    Moljnir is magnetically connected to thors body which allows him to summon it to his hand when nesscary but the pull relationship doesn’t only apply to the hammer, it for some reason can pull him as well. So Thor flying, it’s really just the hammer gliding with Thor attached, Thor himself has no power other then his lightning.

    • @ramasaputra6205
      @ramasaputra6205 Год назад +2

      Nah bro that doesn't make sense, you can see thor grappling against kratos in the air without using mjolnir as this magnetic stuff

    • @sliceofham3737
      @sliceofham3737 Год назад +4

      @@ramasaputra6205 and yet pretty much every time that happens he mostly just follows the trajectory from where he launched and then crashes, almost as if he can't fly on his own.

    • @vic_cresss
      @vic_cresss Год назад +4

      @@ramasaputra6205 coz they’re falling

  • @thomasalva9263
    @thomasalva9263 Год назад

    It would be great to see a reaction video from Santa Monica Studios.

  • @juliosilva2301
    @juliosilva2301 Год назад +1

    It brings one GOAT back to life!

  • @gryox5098
    @gryox5098 Год назад +6

    Was waiting for the textures on his shirt to load in but it never happened :/

  • @JudgeMagistR
    @JudgeMagistR Год назад +5

    Really wish he gave it a look on Praey for the Gods also, But since IGN slammed the game due to a very bad reviewer don't think that will be happening any time soon.

  • @lordnul1708
    @lordnul1708 Год назад

    The previous game actively reveals that this Mimir is basically combined with Puck from A Midsummer Night's Dream.

  • @zaappz
    @zaappz 9 месяцев назад

    6:14 mjölnir is similiar to the swedish word for the sound of thunder from a distance, which is muller, often pronounced as möller.

  • @muzzler24
    @muzzler24 Год назад +4

    Has this dude ever done a commentary on the Sandman comic's depiction of Norse mythology?

  • @BladeCuttervita
    @BladeCuttervita Год назад +11

    What about when Thor attacked the Giant he was in a duel with from above after the giant was tricked to think Thor was tunneling underground and put his shield under him. The one were Thor smashed the Giant head but the Giant knocked door out with that rock he threw and landed on top of the Thor. That story at very least suggests Thor can jump extremely high if not fly.

  • @LouiLoeve
    @LouiLoeve 11 месяцев назад

    12.07: Opinbera kinda sounds like "åbenbare/åpenbare" in Danish/Norwegian (Bokmål), which means to make evident or to make smth appear, or like "åbenbaring/åpenbaring" which means revelation or epiphany.

  • @FrankGhal
    @FrankGhal 5 месяцев назад +1

    The kelpie is explained by mamir saying "thats a rare sight, he's far from home