I think this should be a wake up call for USA, I feel like we got hammered on artistry, floor and beam. Flexed feet and lack of extension through leaps really really added up in quals and here. The Russians were insanely polished, their dance is perfect, their execution, even with some lower start values, was on fire. We could use some of that.
That’s the thing with US. They go by popularity of the athlete and leave the rest behind. Congrates to Russia and their well deserved Gold. Us needs to recognize all athletes and not just one. As we saw in these Olympics. Pressure? Every athlete has them.
I saw someone comment on instagram, “the judges want to see ARTISTIC gymnastics, not Athletic gymnastics”… the US has lacked in the artistry department for the last 2 quads and these judges in tokyo are not being shy with their deductions for artistry. Take Jade’s FX for example… 4 of the most difficult tumbling passes in the world, yet look at her dance n choice of music. Absolutely flat, no emption or passion in the dance… the music even puts me to sleep. I hope the best for team USA, but they should not be shocked that they are not receiving the scores that they do domestically.
It seems like the US program has regressed. For example, 2012 all girls had Amanar. 2021, none have Amanar (I know, Simone was a fluke.) But it hurt them.
Well said. And congratulations to the Russian gymnasts -- as someone who used to love gymnastics when I was a kid, their performances make my heart sing.💖
Because of Russia’s dance history, they’ve produced some of the best trained gymnasts (and skaters.) The U.S. gymnasts couldn’t even stand up straight at the medal ceremony.
I am from Russia. Congratulations to Our ROC team. But i have to say, being silver medal is not a loss. It is a win. They win silver. That is just happened. Last time USA won gold and Russia won silver. I want to see more of this type revival between USA and Russia other than political battle.
@@grigol101 ... You missed the point, bro. Jingo much,eh? p.s.:Миша was happy for the Olympics team of his country, winning gold after a contested final against good rivals. Then you come around and start btching about it. Can't you understand he's on your side? o.O
This really was... Something I'm super happy for the Russian girls, specially Melnikova who has worked so hard and now can finally say she's an Olympic champion. This is soooo different from what was expected, it feels like something went really wrong. At least we finally got exciting finals, I was in the edge of my seat the whole time.
Things did go wrong....USA Gymnastics let sexual predators roam free for years, they ran out the best coach the world has ever seen, and allowed everything to focus on Biles. It's the most dysfunctional organization in all of Olympic sports and it's not particularly close.
I wish I could have watched it live on the edge of my seat instead of waking up to all of the news. Oh well. I’m still going to watch it during prime time tonight!
Something has gone wrong for awhile now, Simone spread herself too thin, TV, advise, ads, photo shoots, when the devil was she going to be training??? and resting??? Building her relationship with her man??? Gabby did the same thing in 2016, tv, flying between gym and LA to film, has to be a big NO NO for all gymnasts and the amount of time they need to reach Olympic level performances and to allow their bodies to recuperate, as well as their minds and souls. The Landi's should know better and said NO tv, limited social media (Bela did this with Mary Lou prior to 1984 games) but they are not used to this- in France there isn't all the hype around the Olympics and the Gold medalists don't have the opportunities that they do in the US. Well if she opt's to drop out for the rest, her replacement is Jade in the All-Around and if she's drops out then Mykayla has the chance...if she drops out of Event Finals, Mykayla replaces her on vault, and if not it goes to a reserve athlete...Bars goes to Melanie de jesus dos Santos for France, Beam to Urara Ashikawa of Japan and Floor to Jennifer Gadirova from the UK!!!
I believe USA gymnastics is being allowed to be a propaganda instrument for nbc. NBC has exclusive coverage of Olympics thru 2032; so nothing major is going to change for US tv viewers. Too much media pressure is placed on these girls. They are the best in the world; but gymnastics followers want to see other teams compete and experience a full international competition. I’m sick of all things Simone or all things for whoever is the media darling of the quad.
The problem with USA is they only focus on Simone, it honestly felt like the other girls were just there to fill up the team. When USA won on 2012 and 2016 THEY WERE A TEAM and that’s why they were able to win.
@@ranojutro426 she’s just saying that for 2012 and 2016, they were looked at as a team that they really took the best from each member in each apparatus. This time around it almost felt like “simone and what others can add” from the USA. In 2016 though simone was there, kocian and gabby led the bars, laurie and aly led beam and floor. So literally it wasn’t about one person. This year USA quals as 2nd suddenly goes to simone not doing this or that. She literally scored high despite the penalties and yet she’s still blamed for qualifying at 2nd.
Exactly, it was always “Simone is unbeatable” and “any team with Simone on it will win” which puts so much pressure on Simone and isn’t good for the other team members either.
Руские ребята эделали все що они могли и въграли первое место в полнисти эаслужено. The Russians did everything they needed to and won the 1st place, that's that. Congratulations. I am Bulgarian but appreciate , like and respect their style and hard work.
You know what’s kind of weird? A friend of mine told me today, Mustafina has been through tons of Shit and she never really left the arena This got me thinking, of course I put simones health over everything, but how much of that was her ego telling her “this time won’t be easy for you”
@@sinhueherrera8984 thats all it is, ego. She just told reporters nothing but her pride was injured. The media's been hyping her for years and its never been a problem til now. Why? In the past, her scores BOOSTED the team total but there was amazing talent from others too so they werent DEPENDANT on her scores and could win (by a lesser margin) without her. But teammates of the past are injured, moved to ncaa, or retired and this team was not exceptional enough for her to coast to gold with errors. Suddenly a well balanced russian team made it necessary for her to COMPETE for the first time in years. Shes been winning with falls and out of bounds forever so she choked when she had to relearn what it means to strive for perfection. She took all that stress and neatly handed it out to her teammates instead. Suni, Jo, and Grace impressed me with their perseverance.
@@nabojsa I agree with you, you just dont think mid air to do only one and half twists, It felt like it was already planned, kinda weird... she should have withdrawn before competition started...
I can't find a single video of the Russian performance without it being cut. Why is NBC refusing to show Russias performance that won them the Gold? They only show Simon and highlights from the US? I smell BIAS
The twins with Amelie and Alice did team GB so proud.!!! So proud of our girls they’ve created history…. 93 years since the podium!!! Very emotional 😭 even if can’t watch most of it!!! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I know Americans are very patriotic. But what Valentina Rodionenko said turned out to be TRUTH. If they took Simone Biles off the team, the girls wouldn't win the gold. And that can be taken on a positive side! Don't put pressure on a single athlete to raise the scores for the entire team. It happened in 2008 with Liukin and Shawn. It happened in 2012 with Gabby and Raisman. It happened in 2016 with Biles. I hope that national coordinators learn to build a FULLY STRONG team that doesn't depend on ONE.
You know what? I'm not even mad about this, because USA gymnastics committee is in some need of a slice of humble, pie, for some time now. And a Lot of us fans and those commentators as well, especially Tim Dagget 🤮. But anyway, congrats to their silver medal, especially to Grace and Jordan, cause they won't have another chance to medal. Ps: Love your voice girl... Byeeee
Holy words! That's why competitions are never won beforehand. Anything can happen, anytime, anywhere, with anyone. You can have the best team, but if the best team does not perform to the best of their abilities or like today there is a problem with the superstar and nobody steps up, you win "only" a good silver.
I'm so glad my gb girls pull through, but them getting 3rd doesn't justify becky not being on the team! I'm so happy for Russia they did absolutely amazing! On all of the broadcasts being shown in England, ththry were so focused on simone and the us Russia rivalry, they showed only 2 gb routines and they ended up getting 3rd! It was amazing to come back to get 3rd after 2 rotations being in 7th place!
British media embarassed themselves, they were too Americanised, every minute it's USA this and Simone that. They even cut off routines to talk about Simone. They forgot there was a British team, it was only after eveything was over and GB won they realised it.
@@anomanderrake3593 Not entirely true. Our useless BBC were out-bidden by Discovery+ for the whole Olympics and can only show 2 live events at the same time (1 on TV and 1 online). They DO have a few camera crews out there but are not allowed to show anything live, hence all live broadcast material is chosen by the Discovery+ directors, NOT by BBC sport, and they have to ask for permission to show individual athlete performances afterwards. Its all about the money unfortunately, and it won't be any better for the next Olympics. If I could record Discovery+ I'd ditch the BBC completely, which I'm seriously thinking of doing anyway
I'm from a small non-western country and has been a great fan of Russian gymnastics for years. Even though I was rooting for Russia, I never expected them to actually win the Team final. Please don't hate me for saying this, but honestly I've been so sick of the "We Americans are the best" "The USA has the strongest athletes and will win with our C team" and "You can only wish for silver with Simone present" narrative from the media, coaches and commentators. Not only did it foster arrogance, it put US athletes with great pressure and expectations, as if winning gold is expected of them and silver is a 'lost'. All the attention and pressure finally push Simone over the edge, and I sincerely hope she will take the time to take good care of her mental health. I really hope this experience will humble the American media and learn that their athletes are human too. Athletes owe the public nothing, even if they didn't deliver as well as they could have, even if they 'only' won a silver or bronze or nothing at all, their fellow countrymen should be proud of them for representing their countries as elite athelets.
You are correct. I was glad to see the USA humbled. I love watching the Russian gymnasts and very happy to see them win gold. Hard earned and well deserved!
@@bostaurus1 yea its hilarious coz before the competition, bile's SKII commercial was playing. maybe she shouldnt have done that many commercials before the olympics. but i am sure she will still get the AA gold. she can afford to reduce her difficulty greatly and still get the gold
THE problem from the start was the constant cocky talk of “We can send in two teams and they will go 1-2 hands down” or else “It won’t come down to a few tenths in Tokyo”!!!! (P.s. #TomOUT). Putting SOO MUCH f**ing pressure on the girls and especially Simone every time NBC was on air - really did more harm than good! It’s impossible to meet any kind of expectations for these very young ladies no matter how they do! They even announced ‘Gold Over America’ tour months before the team was even announced. All this big talk from everyone who’s not actually going out and competing. I hope that this Team final will remind them that this is sport and anything can happen and hopefully bring everyone’s expectations down by at least 50%. They don’t say “don’t count your chickens before they hatch” for nothing. And I’m soo unbelievably proud of Russia (i know it’s technically ROC but i don’t care) and Great Britain! They did so well! 🎉🎉😭
Lol. I remember watching a video and the coach said simone was the whole team and without her they would fail or something like that. 😶 Guess she was right
I'm Russian. I am very pleased to read the comments of support to Russia. Thank you all! To hell with the politics that even got into the Olympic Games! To hell with the puppet media! Russians love sports and sincerely support every country, even if Russia did not pass
@@lilbatz True and same here, been rooting for her since 2017, now she is an Olympics Silver medallist. Was hoping she would make an individual event tho.
@@argoneonoble It's just Russia under a different name.....If they were suspended they shouldn't be allowed to compete at all. And ROC stands for Russian Olympic Commitee
As an American, I'm not even mad, I'm very, very happy for Russia. I'm sad about what Simone is going through, but Tom really annoyed me with his "I'm not worried about a few tenths" comments, not to mention Tim & Nastia's "USA could send 15 teams and all contend for gold" comments. That being said, silver is AMAZING and they put up a great fight for it. It makes me happy that they're genuinely happy with the silver. The '08 team always looked devastated when they got silver (which I guess is understandable, but IIRC they didn't really have a chance) and idk it's nice that they're so happy and proud of themselves and each other.
Listunova is so elegant and beautiful! I love her gymnastics. And the Russian gymnasts were all amazing and have beautiful lines. I have mixed feelings about Simone's decision.
The Russians will always be better gymnasts because they have artistry which the Americans don't. Laurie Hernandez came the closest. Because the Russians study ballet also. I think Biles pulled out because she was getting beat by the Russians.
I no longer care about Simone's decision. It is what it is let the games begin. In the end, it doesn't matter about Simone. Simone Biles is part of the past. Life & time go on. We're all human.
Russia was beautiful. They didn't just show excellence, but a lot of heart. Melnikova is a star. Her floor routine was anything but routine. Her face as she ended, it has me smiling right now. The first thing she did after celebrating with her team was ask Simone what was up and if she was okay. Class. Now USAG. I am not on the inside, but I talk to enough people who have insight to know that Tom is a very emotional person. I'm a feeler. I love emotions. However, Tom is exactly the same guy who was throwing tantrums on the sidelines while his ill-prepared gymnasts struggled 1996. I don't think he is necessarily a bad person, but I think he is too reactive to be making decisions that involve making or killing people's lives. Hell, his decisions can make or cost millions of dollars for people and companies/organizations. Furthermore, I find him to be narcissistic and vindictive. For various reasons.... I also know there's something wrong because of how wrong, in general, the gym fandom was. I was _really_ wrong. I thought we were unbeatable. Hell, I thought the B team would win gold. I thought leaving Becky was stupid because GBR had no chance at a medal in any situation and Becky was the only one who could win anything.
I’m going to say this as nicely as I can, Sunisa was the only gymnast that carried the team and delivered. The judges really hammered Grace and Jordan on beam for there form on the acro-series & leaps which were not 180°. Floor, Grace going out of bounds twice & Jordan going OOB & Falling was really the death of the gold hope. Suni really shined with a 15.4 on bars & 14.1 on beam and probably the best floor routine of the year for her. Unfortunately the rest of the team couldn’t help. Even tho Russia fell twice on on beam there form and execution & difficulty was way better. I just hope Suni can get a gold on bars so she can officially be an Olympic champion! And no disrespect to Simone because I really do feel bad for her and hope she gets better for finals but for her to say “y’all will be fine , I’ve been to an Olympics before” well kinda easy for her to say since she has an Olympic gold medal & now the rest of the team won’t!
I completely agree. Sunisa carried the night. I wish Mykayla had Grace's spot. Unfortunately vault and floor would've made all the difference here, and I think her scores were not high enough. Mykayla is always underscored in the USA, but has great scores abroad.
@@MsBlushing24 Did you watch qualifying? Mykayla got destroyed in execution. If her scores were used from qualifying in the TF, they would have scored even lower having to count her bars. This isn’t a dig at Mykayla either, the entire US program needs a wake up call that throwing poorly executed high difficulty skills isn’t going to cut in the COP going forward.
Right. I wish simone would've decided she didn't want to do her YDP on vault and just quit mid competition BEFORE they picked the team...it could've changed everything (the makeup of the team). I thought her delivering the YDP at the Olympics was...clutch for us on that apparatus. But I guess when the nerves get to you they get to you...cant she just be given an Ativan by the team dr and sent back out there?! Lol
First, congrats on your comments in this video, very respectful and fair. I don't think we can compare this 2021 team to the previous ones, just because the training system has changed dramatically. The Karolyis brought with them this sovietic way of doing, which was absolutely damaging for human beings, but efficient. Team USA always won just like USSR and Romanian teams always won at that time, because no one cared about those girls, no one. They were mistreated and abused, and held under control by fear. That's what we call winning at all costs, and it worked back then, just like it worked for team USA when coached by the Karolyis. Thanks god, this period is over. We can hope for non psychologically damaged athletes, but also expect very "human" athletes, who experience failures sometimes. And that's what happened today. I think the girl suddenly realized (Simone included) that they were not unbeatable, that they could be fragile too, and nervous, and it surely is a shock for those girls who were so sure they would win kind of easily. It's a shock for the public too because we were so used to it, we just took this victory for granted. And yes, Tom should be prepared to get himself an other job, but... The change was good though, we need to bring humanity back in this gym house! And human sometimes wins, and sometimes loses, that's just the way it is. And to be honest, I'm glad that suspens and drama are back into gymnastics competitions, it's kind of boring to watch it knowing already who's gonna win this. Anyway, full respect for all those girls out there, gymnastics is so beautiful, but soooooo hard and demanding too, so congrats to all of them. A special wow for Suni Lee, I love this athlete, and wish her all the best.
Exactly ! Winning is awesome but not when the training regimen includes fear and intimidation and the athletes feeling like they cant speak up for themselves.
@@StacyA1000 Winning is awsome. No matter how. And in every Win you have to submitt. Discipline. Or you are gifted, or you have to work your a*** of. But in any circumstance you have to sacrifice a part of your freewill and speach.
I actually was hoping that Russia would win. Even though I’m an American, I always find Russian gymnasts to be more artistic and elegant! I like watching their gymnastics more than ours. American gymnasts only do tricks and flip, but it’s the little dance elements that Russians excel at.
I'm happy Russia won. It's also kind of funny all the gymnasts from every country are falling everywhere and all the countries are giving each-other high fives that would never happen in a normal year lol. Goes with a crazy year of covid.
@@leighannjohnson1194 That’s outside media who know nothing about gymnastics putting that pressure on them. These athletes never stated they are going to win the gold.
@@JD-zd8tm Let’s see… in team finals I remember Russia, and the USA in 2008. For AA I remember Aly Raisman, Viktoria Komova, and Shawn Johnson. For beam I remember Laurie Hernandez, Sui Lu, and Nastia Liukin. For bars I remember Madison Kocian, He Kexin, and Nastia Liukin. I remember many silver medalists. Being 2nd best in the world at something is amazing! Let’s give silver the credit it deserves 🥈
This is a world competition and the USA isn't always going to earn the gold. But the USA athletics can still be proud to win silver or even bronze. So, yes, congratulations to all the medalists and also, to all the athletics who did their best, even if they didn't make it to the podium.
They underestimated the competition and felt untouchable, and by they I mean TF, USAG and the media not the team or the coaches. I feel like they were blinded, they only saw domestic scores and said we’re good. Also the judges were harsh on everyone but they did took deductions from dance elements and artistic elements and we know Russia is one of the best in that area and USA has room for improvement. I’m so happy for ROC they totally deserved it, as well as USA that silver was good considering all the adversities they had to pull through including being the Olympics their first international competition in a while and GB totally deserved that too. Felt a little bad for Japan, China and Italy but I guess not everyone can win :(
Viani, yes, everyone kept saying the US was so deep, and I didn't see it. I mean they're amazing but nothing as deep as the selection pool of 2016. Anyway, I am satisfied with results too and happy for GB, but would have been equally happy had Italy made the podium too.
@@lovely7983 What happened was completely unexpected. You're being harsh. It's hard not to feel like you have a good chance of getting gold when you have the best female gymnast in the world on your team, someone so good they have to underscore her because they think it's unfair that she's so much better than everyone else. What happened was so unexpected and the remaining girls were still able to pull of silver with a few big mistakes.
Some of you all just need to get used to not being in number one position all the time because a champion will never remain a champion forever so take your second place and stop whinning. Too much pressure was put on the young lady. The media and many people made it look like it will be a Biles game and not a team event.
So true. Simone brought in so many new fans, and deservedly so, so they are used to only seeing the wins. But if you've followed gymnastics for any length of time, you know it's just a matter of time before Russia or China (or someone else!) is back on top. It's cyclical.
Well, USA is just all about power and arrogance. You guys forgot that Russia(the former Soviet Union) was the original superpower of artistic gymnastics. Gymnastics back then during the cold war was dominated by the Soviets and it was very daring, creative and elegant that time. On the other hand, USA gymnastics lacks the charm and artistry that the gymnasts from the eastern europe posses.
I'm certainly not for abusing athletes, but as a former gymnast and coach I can tell you that the girls need discipline and consistency, they need a leader. We unfortunately didn't get that from Tom. Simone at only 24 years old speaks with more grace and maturity than he does.
Ironically the one person who would understand what simone is going through is gabby. She was the reigning olympic champion and the pressure to hit coupled with the knowledge people wanted her to fail (so they could hate on her more) was immense. Put some respect on Doug's name cuz she never let the team down. Maybe now simone will have more sympathy for why gabby was miserable in her comeback.
@@argoneonoble well its ironic because theyre not friends. So the one person who could empathise with the anxiety and panic and advise simone how to get thru it is the one person she cant talk to.
while their situations are rather different, honestly i think gabby had it worse. While simone has gotten backlash for her bailed vault and decision to withdraw, many people still rightfully respect and admire her. in gabby's situation she was flooded with hate and doubt in multiple senarios (2015 AA qualifications and marta's decisions to withhold maggie, her placing lower than skinner in trials, and the disappointing 3rd place AA finish in 2016 AA quals), gabby really got so much hate for no reason. the pressure that she faced vs simones are different imo, however i hope simone can deal with the pressure in the individual aa/ef.
I actually thought gabbys comeback was great! She won silver in AA at worlds, made the olympic team once again and was top5 AA in qualifying. I think that's a remarkable comeback and only a few gymnasts accomplished something similar.
I'm so glad it's come down to the other girls!!! It's their time now!!! It's so great that they get their own time to shine at their first Olympics!!! So excited to watch now!
The other girls ain't shit either way their asses got kicked too! Their gymnastics is ugly, boring & repetitive. LOL! Have a cry. When I see Russia, China, Japan, Italy, France, Brazil & other nations polished style I realize American gymnastics is hella political & ugly right now. There are a lot of individual gymnasts who are better. U.S.A wins because of its power in the world not because its gymnasts are great.
god ! Viktoria Listunova and the british twins !! these girls were all lit like hell , specially on floor , so fun to watch ! the artistries and elegance of the Russian team is beyond words ! a well deserved win !!! it was really refreshing to see all the great athletes from all countries come to shine here again ! even the Italians were on fire . really sorry for Simone and the us team , but well the times they are changing ..always..and artistic gymnastics is not just about who's the best tumbler .the us team looks more like bodybuilders than gymnasts these days ...and really lack in elegance a lot .... so I am happy for all these athletes who train so hard all their lives that they get a chance again to shine and be seen ....I hope for Jade to make some medals at individuals ..she is a real great athlete thou with grace and fun to watch !!
You must be Canadian or British? American TV coverage blocks out every gymnast who isn't American. We get to see nothing so I don't watch anymore. RUclips is all I can manage.
This proves anything can happen to anyone anywhere. Even with simone getting taken out and there rough prelims Grace, Suni, and Jordan all fought for it and didn't give up. Clearly proud is a understatement. Team USA really fought for it cause they wanted it more than anything.
I always thought Jade should have been on the team. Her vault and floor would help the team. Simone and Jade are the top gymnasts on floor and vault. Simone and Suni are excellent on bars and beam. Yes, US would lose a spot at the Olympic but it would be used to make the team better. The pressure got to Simone.
The committee did not have a contingency plan if Simone cannot compete - not her fault. They put everything on her (wrong) and just went with trials placements - Simone will take care of it. Too worried about hurting people's feelings to mold a fully top level team. Simone was like, "I'm out." I hope Mykayla is still in Japan and practicing.
@@danasuperstar Mikayla is retiring and so is Simone after the Olympics, not to be rude or anything but I feel like Mikayla should’ve taken Graces spot. With Grace as an individual that gives everyone a chance to win a medal instead they put mikayla as an individual when she could’ve really helped the team. She could hit all 4 routines on all events.
Jade on the team might have won them gold but she was already on the individual spot since before trials even happened by her own choice so it would've never happened anyways
@@danasuperstar I agree that not having a backup plan for a situation like this was something Tom and the committee completely failed at. Simone basically was forced to carry the whole vault rotation on her own with Jordan and Grace both only doing DTYs instead of an Amanar and a Cheng. Not a good plan at all.
@@eddieschultz3289 CBS media knew the Russian team was strong and consistent Yet they were selling streamable video of their view of the Olympics for 5 dollars a head.
Injuries really took a toll no Riley or Morgan. In my opinion Leanne should have made the team over Grace. Her floor and vault scoring was higher all year. She has excellent execution.
So happy my Russian girl got the gold medal!! And same for a new historic medal for GB!!!!! EDIT: Both the Russians women’s and men’s team won gold!!!!
You can’t just show up and expect a gold medal, which is the sense I was getting from the US team and selection committee. Like at Trials, it seemed they were already celebrating their medals. I def got the feeling that’s why MyK was so upset, she thought just making the team would ensure her a gold. Just me? I hope Simone is ok. She’s probably really frustrated at herself and I hope she takes time for herself. She’s still the GOAT, no matter what. Just a human one that has bad days, like the rest of us. The timing of hers was just really unlucky.
@@leykimayri Glad I’m not alone, lol 😝 Trouble always follows when you start to believe your own hype. Hype doesn’t win. The Russians showed up with fires in their bellies and that made all the difference. 🔥🔥🔥 TBH, I don’t even care who got which medals. I just love seeing people live their dreams, USA or not. 🥰
yea your right. she literally said in a video that making the team is guaranteed gold. this mindset is what screwed them over. This was a humbling lesson and hopefully usag will change their ways
I don’t like how this reported sounds. Blaming this on one man is ridiculous. The media should take most of the credit for Simone’s exit. The media is the one that puts the pressure on.
She bedazzles a goat on the back of every leo even though shes only the 17th most accomplished olympian in gymnastics history (by medal count). She needed humbling but i am sorry shes getting bullied.
@@kareharpies Gymnastics is not only an Olympic sport. She’s the most decorated gymnast in the history of the sport with 24 world championship medals, 19 of them being gold. This number doesn’t even include the 3 golds and 1 bronze from Rio, national titles, and medals from other competitions. She’s absolutely the GOAT. This is just 1 competition out of her entire career. No one comes close to the the skill, difficultly, or amount of medals she has.
Simone accepted far too many projects in this pre-Olympic year, she should have turned off the social media and trained, refused TV and just invested quality time into herself...she is obviously a much more private person and introvert than she let's on.....
@@kareharpies Finally, someone said it. She began the whole GOAT thing herself. Of course it began as a light-hearted "joke" as she put it and I'm glad that she was able to shut her haters down rightfully so, but I would've hoped her PR team would've told her how it her self-declaring she's the GOAT would be sopped up by the media and be branded on her for life/at least the Olympics. She thought that she would be able to handle her GOAT declaration and carrying it out and tbh she has done so well and lived up to expectations, except for now when it counts (at least to her and her team) the most. I think that she is a humble person though, except for that brief reckless moment in which she decided to stick it her haters by GOATing herself; I feel like she likely even regretted it soon after, but it was already done.
Regarding "why". The team in London and especially in Rio were crazy strong. Simone, Ali - both super capable on the floor, good on beam. Laurie - great on beam, decent on the floor, Madison excellent on bars, Gabby - great all-arounder competing as team-member and experienced Olympian. Sorry, but Grace and Jordan don't come close. This win showed, that balanced, good enough in everything team can beat a team with a superstar on couple of apparatus (apparati?)
Ethan Tam Grace wasn’t top three on any event. Leanne, MYK, or Riley would have been better choices. It’s a crime Jade was never considered for the main team.
Tbh in some ways I feel like this is also the judges finally hammering US gymnasts for things they usually get away with. Yes, there's definitely unique circumstances behind the scenes but I also think that the US was no longer allowed to glide on big tumbling and massive vaults for once. It's like the judges suddenly remembered that form and landings matter, and no you can't just rely on robotic tumbling.
I am very happy, I waited for this great moment for 9 long years, Russia is finally gold medalist. Now about US team, this was overconfidence fueled by the toxic media they have, Tim and Nastia saying that US could fill 3 teams and still get the gold, not true at all. Then this whole pressure on Simone "The GOAT", they forgot she was human, they dehumanised Simone. Then arrogance plays its part too, this culture of "we are the best", finally honestly its lack of discipline, they spent some time without a coordinator and Tom is too soft, he wants to change the abuse culture but discipline, dieting(eating right, but not overeating and not starving too) , control, methodism is crucial.
You are so right about US media. As soon as qualifications started I could see right away that Tim and Nastia had way over-hyped the depth of talent in the US. They are part of the problem. Russia was amazing and they deserved the gold.
@@Ludovica.storti.godunko good diet is needed. Healthy and balance nutrition as fuel and energy for the athletes NOT to be mistaken as starving/anorexic culture.
@@guardianofthegalaxy2051 but were do you get they don’t eat healthy? They are olympians of course they do, if your comment comes because of the way they look you are wrong.
I’m supper happy for Russia. And super happy for Grace, Suni and Jordan. And respect 100% Simone’s decision. But let’s just say that this final really proved how Tom Forster doesn’t know shit on what he’s doing. MyKayla Skinner is a more older gymnast who has more experience, she would manage this team final really well. Jade Carey could throw some huge scores in two big events. It’s not about Grace and (Jordan I guess), they were wonderful and handled the pressure really well.. it’s just that this is the Olympics not some US competition, and every score counts. That’s one of only things I can compliment about Martha, she knew how to make an Olympian team. Ps: also I loved how, this final showed US how their not the center of the world, even on gymnastics, that there’s plenty of gymnasts like them that are working hard and are as also good all around the globe. And I’m not praising the Karolyis at all. Their system was un-human and they should be condemned for that.
But has Mykayla been consistent, no… If Martha was still over them, I really believe Mykayla would’ve been an alternate again. She just looks stiff as board imo.
MyKayla got what she earned. End of story. Thankfully we won't have to go through this nonsense in the next quad without her revving up her fans to make them believe she is a better gymnast than the facts have always shown. And Jade chose to be an individual competitor. She competed to qualify for that spot and she reiterated her choice in trials when she said she would NOT give up that spot.
just accept the fact that the Americans girls choked under pressure and were not the best. Listunova and Urazova have been eating Americans since juniors worlds of 2019. No one was surprised they dominate again. Melnikova and Lilia meanwhile were the perfect example of improvement and perseverance
@@jimaglonzoa.m6368 even from a completely unbiased perspective, things have been bizarre. and i’m not directing that toward any team or athlete. i agree with nearly all the scores, praises, and critiques, but that doesn’t mean it hasn’t been a strange competition 🤷🏼♀️
@@jimaglonzoa.m6368 i’m just trying to analogize to another bizarre olympic situation! the vault error in 2000 affected athletes from *ALL competing countries* … so i’m not using the example to discredit any one team or make an excuse for another. i apologize if the comparison offends or angers you, but i hope you can understand where i’m coming from.
It’s the classic saying “Pride comes before a fall” the amount of crap we’ve seen spilling out of the US leading up to the games was ridiculous. They’re always over scored in the domestic meets so when they compete internationally and do the same routines scoring almost half a point lower it demoralises them. Also the constant “Simone vs herself” “no one can beat Simone” “she could do what she did in Rio and still win by 3 points” (courtesy of Timmy) has totally put so much pressure on Simone and sadly she just felt it too hard today and couldn’t continue. We all scoffed at V-Rod saying that russia could win without Simone, well they did. Whilst counting 2 falls. However saying all that, a silver is still a fantastic recovery for the girls and certainly proves that USA doesn’t need to rely on Simone all the time, brought the other talented gymnasts to the front. I am hoping Simone is ok and can manage to shake off some of the pressure, she should think back to what her mum said to her before Rio “I want you to go out there and be the best Simone you can be and whatever the outcome is we’ll take it”
Given what the girls were facing with the departure of their leader and top performing gymnast, these girls did amazingly well. They are champs in my book. The pressure of being considered the favorite, the jet lag and lack of time to acclimate to the time difference, and the blowback as to who made the team and who didn't, it is a massive mental exercise for girls that literally are barely out of their teen years. They should all be proud of themselves. And, congratulations to Russia. They were the better team out on the floor today.
I'm Russian (living in Australia) and while I love the US gymnasts, I'm so happy we won. The commentators were always so focused on Biles and I really hope that this is a big reality check for US gymnastics, as everyone including themselves just thinks that they'll win no matter what.
I agree with you , but I also like the American team and Simone as a person and support them as they were all sexually abused by the same doctor so they have huge mental health pressure to push through also and if you watch videos on these athletes you'll see that they dont even expect to win , they just compete with themselves and the Gold medals just sometimes happen . So I was also going for them and russia too , and im Australian
I also hated how people act like team USA is nothing without Simone. Like yeah she’s amazing but so are the rest of them??? And also like…. The Russians beat them in quals when Simone was there? Yes she wasn’t on her A games but she’s human and that’s perfectly normal.
Chinese athletes are brillant, but so inconsistant, that's the problem. I was sur they would make a podium, I was impressed by what I saw during preparation. They'll get medals on beam though.
I watched them and I feel like they were so underscored on beam... like they got 13'9s with a great execution (i might be wrong but i thought it was good)
Sadly Tim and Nastia commented on the edited primetime version, when they already knew the results. I would love to watch them reacting live to that night event.
@@JonnyMason I am not in the US. Is there any chance watching on RUclips? I really wanna watch US team in Gymnastic final. Pls share links if you have. TIA.
I think a huge problem for the US team is the over-inflated and inaccurate scoring at domestic events. People are actually complaining about Grace/Jordan/Simone getting too low scores? Just compare their execution to the ROC and the lower scores are deserved. Execution scores at US domestic meets are simply too high, and USAG is just setting up their gymnasts to fail since they can't fix problems before hitting the international stage and being hammered on them. Also think team selection/placement at trials would've been different had execution been accurately scored. The inflated E scores across the board really hurt US gymnasts with actually good form like Leanne.
IMO...Only Grace and Jordan were over scored nationally. Simone just had a bad day and was still number one. Simone lost almost a point on her beam dismount and had a huge OOB on FX. Riley and Leanne had superior execution to Jordan. Grace just has not been consistent since 2018. She never seemed to hit her best routines. It’s why I felt she shouldn’t have been on the team. It’s kind of crazy MYK had better execution scores then Jordan on floor.😂
Competing at the Olympics is super hard, winning, well, MEGA hard. Martha and Bela new that and coached accordingly and I now wonder whether the new administration and coaches know what it takes. Happy for the Russian team they just make gymnastics enjoyable- the grace the humility, well deserved
and is kinda ironic that when that Russian coach said "Remove Simone and we will easily beat them" everybody bashed her but well, apparently she wasn't that crazy 😂😂😂😂
My thought is that maybe social media is having a negative effect on the girls emotionally. I feel like they need to be isolated from it when they are at something as important as the Olympics. I could be wrong but it seems with everyone having their phones out all the time it just invites the whole world into the minds of these athletes.
yesterday, THE GOLDEN BOYS 💪✊🤟 today, THE GOLDEN GIRLS ✌🎶😎 ... and I think you're right, time for changes in team USA. ....... indeed, Simone is a human, as all of us.
I said it once, and I'll say it again - Marta Karolyi was right when she said "There are lots of wonderful talented athletes, but when the pressure is on they collapse". That's exactly what happened with Simone I think... She is one of the most capable athletes of all time, but the team was relying too much on her and she was not ready for that, combined with the difficult covid situation.... This is a result of Tom's poor strategy while selecting the team, lack of international experience for the athletes and training and covid...Plus all of them had recent injuries...I think Tom doesn't have to be fired but he has to change his strategy an altitude dramatically, he's good just not at selecting teams and preparing the girls for the pressure that's to come... But I think if he's to get fired I think Valeri Liukin might be next....
In my opinion suni was carrying this team on her back and shoulders and gave her all and Tom definitely needs to be fired I noticed throughout these games that they were smiling laughing a lot and wasn’t really focused and they didn’t have a team Captain like Aly to get together and give them a peptalk before the last event.
Ok I see all these comments about "Poor Simone!" but did ANYONE feel this way about Gabby Douglas in 2016? Nope. Hardly anyone. You are the same people who came online and raked that poor girl over the freaking coals. I have been decrying her treatment for YEARS. No one even remembers that poor girl, and if it wasnt for her, Simone would not have had the door open. People made fun of her looks, her hair and her face. It was horrible. People were cruel and negative to Gabby just for fun. Now Simone feels a TINY BIT of the pressure Gabby had to contend with, and she flops like a wet rag. Simone ALWAYS had EVERYONE cheering for her, and she STILL couldnt perform. Gabby had to perform WHILST EVERYONEwas hating on her. For no bloody reason. This will teach you all. Dont hate on people for no reason. Gabby suffered, and no one cared. Now Simone is feeling it too. But where is the sympathy for Gabby? How many evil people came on RUclips and talked about that girl like a dog. Funny now that you have all the sympathy in the world for Simone, yet none for Gabby.
What happened to Simone being the GOAT? People will drop you so quickly Please respect the USA team as a whole Silver is still better than bronze and Congrats!!! to Team Russia.
@@You-dh1du Simone said that she didn’t want to continue compete in team final because she mentally didn’t feel she could go out and do her job. And she didn’t want to do more mistakes so her teammates would not get a medal, as they deserved. She just wanted to give her teammates their medals which they could without her. And I mean… all the pressure the world has put on Simone. I understand that it was too much pressure. She’s only a human, and a kind one who does what she thinks is the right for her fellow teammates. But she is still a part of the team, and of course she is allowed to celebrate her silver medal with her team.
@@simonheinsen5418 yep it's as if they were expecting Simone to win it all by herself. I don't want to imagine the pressure they put on her. She has already proven so much in this sport and her team mates did really well to keep up. I hope for Simone that she is able to still compete and finish on a positive note for herself.
I know you probably didn’t mean to disrespect the Bronze medal but I am proud of team GB 🇬🇧 for getting it, and it’s a touch arrogant to be so dismissive of any podium position.
Can anyone tell Tim (and Nastia) that nothing is guaranteed in gymnastics, no matter whether it is Simone or anyone else? Because they keep making the same stupid comments at the olympics, and it's so unfair to gymnasts. Remember 2012, about Jordyn Wieber: "Whoever wins the American Cup in the olympic year wins the olympic games" - really? Also in 2012, re. McKayla Maroney: "she will be olympic gold medalist on vault, no doubt about it" - oh, wait. And now, Simone and team USA, with the "guaranteed gold medal".
Well done Russia, Beautiful performances! It's hard to beat Russia in gymnastics. Their gymnastic program is their Crown Jewel. It always has been. God bless them.
It was clear after the qualifications that Russia was on the rise and if they hadn't won today they would certainly have been a stronger competitor in the future. They have upped the technical difficulty and combined with their polished moves they are very dangerous. The US is definitely stagnating and needs a fresh vision. There will be no more 5+ point victories where they can simply out power and muscle everyone and still win with mistakes or subpar execution.
potocatepetl C’mon that was with falls from the American team. Russia hit every routine in qualifying. If the American team had not counted falls. They would have had the lead even with Simone’s bad day.
I wonder how Aimee Boorman would have handled this. I don't think she would have let Simone quit. There are no more adults in the room. There's also no more team USA, if your top athlete and team leader can give up. The rebuilding process has to start with some discipline and making everyone accountable to the team.
Well what’s the alternative ? She continues to compete in that poor state of mind and suffers an injury ? What they do is insanely dangerous if you’re second guessing yourself and your ability. Which Simone clearly has been doing since day 2 of trials. She recognized she was going to put the team at risk of no possibly not medalling and worse yet injuring herself. She comes first.
Aimee wouldn’t have let her do all those crazy “Biles” skills. They only increased the hype and pressure every time she debuted one. It set her apart even more and in retrospect was a huge mistake.
We have come along way from the Cold War haven’t we. Now we got Americans sitting out events because stress levels are to high. This is what happens. Congrats to rest of team USA for picking up the slack. And congrats to Russia for wanting it more!
I don’t really think it’s fair to say that she was right. The usa would have put up a different team if they knew Simone wouldn’t compete and it the other girls wouldn’t have been thrown in last minute
I wouldn't say this is the fault of the USA, but the hard work that ROC has displayed. All the the other countries are eying on the gold, that the US has reign supreme in the past 12 years. Just brush it off and comeback stronger in the next summer Olympics.
clearly team ROC proved their superiority. And amusingly one particular team's over confident strategy that backfired miserably relied only on one member to do all the job. Guess which team was that?
USA brings body builders to the gymnastics... Just to compare with gymnasts from other countries. It looks like the USA gymnasts hammer the nails when they run to jump or jump.
This was such a great final. For those of us who love the sport it does not matter who wins. We want the best to win! I will say this though... If Simone really is not in the headspace to compete as she likes, she should graciously give up the rest of the competition so reserves can compete. If she does not, it will look like she was only out for herself. She has nothing to prove. She is already the best, and those of us who love her would not be mad. It's OK to admit when you have reached you mental capacity for stress.
Hopefully Tom realizes he can’t put all his faith in one woman because literally anything can happen. He’s going to have to really look at strengths and put together the highest scoring team next time
Hope this kills rank order forever. Why he choose an athlete that wasn’t top three on any event is beyond me. Especially, when he had better options in MYK and Leanne.
I’m happy about it. They were so above themselves claiming that they would have won the olympics even with a B or C team. There you have it. Work and be humble. Congratulations for these Russian queens🎊
I watched with pleasure! Thank you team USA for good gymnastic and thank you my country for gold 💕 Girls, You are rock ❤️Proud of you! Они забрали у нас гимн, флаг, но они никогда не смогут забрать характер и волю! Российская сборная, вы лучшие!
Listunova and Suni were DEFINITELY the superstars of this team final
Yes!
Yes, absolutely!
Yes certainly! they were the stars of the show
they should sub or remove one of Melnikova or Urazova in the all around
@@fashionfgurl18 Wouldn't this be a bit harsh?
I wish aliya mustafina was there to witness this historic russian team gold finish.she is legend she deserve it.
My thoughts exactly hahah
Same
Absolutely agree. She is the first person that comes to mind when I think of Russian Gymnastics. heck, Gymnastics in general.
Me too. I loved watching her.
Yeah
I think this should be a wake up call for USA, I feel like we got hammered on artistry, floor and beam. Flexed feet and lack of extension through leaps really really added up in quals and here. The Russians were insanely polished, their dance is perfect, their execution, even with some lower start values, was on fire. We could use some of that.
That’s the thing with US. They go by popularity of the athlete and leave the rest behind.
Congrates to Russia and their well deserved Gold. Us needs to recognize all athletes and not just one. As we saw in these Olympics.
Pressure? Every athlete has them.
I saw someone comment on instagram, “the judges want to see ARTISTIC gymnastics, not Athletic gymnastics”… the US has lacked in the artistry department for the last 2 quads and these judges in tokyo are not being shy with their deductions for artistry. Take Jade’s FX for example… 4 of the most difficult tumbling passes in the world, yet look at her dance n choice of music. Absolutely flat, no emption or passion in the dance… the music even puts me to sleep. I hope the best for team USA, but they should not be shocked that they are not receiving the scores that they do domestically.
It seems like the US program has regressed. For example, 2012 all girls had Amanar. 2021, none have Amanar (I know, Simone was a fluke.) But it hurt them.
Well said. And congratulations to the Russian gymnasts -- as someone who used to love gymnastics when I was a kid, their performances make my heart sing.💖
Because of Russia’s dance history, they’ve produced some of the best trained gymnasts (and skaters.) The U.S. gymnasts couldn’t even stand up straight at the medal ceremony.
I am from Russia. Congratulations to Our ROC team. But i have to say, being silver medal is not a loss. It is a win. They win silver. That is just happened. Last time USA won gold and Russia won silver. I want to see more of this type revival between USA and Russia other than political battle.
Well said, Nikolai
Как тыможешь обзывать нашу команду РОК, тут даже американцы называют её Россией.
@@grigol101
Don't be mad at Nikolai, but at WADA for being corrupted hacks.
@@stefanradev7034 Это не твоего болгарского ума дело. Англосаксы нагнули ВАДА и вас, болгар тоже. А русский не должен этого делать.
@@grigol101
... You missed the point, bro. Jingo much,eh?
p.s.:Миша was happy for the Olympics team of his country, winning gold after a contested final against good rivals. Then you come around and start btching about it. Can't you understand he's on your side? o.O
This really was... Something
I'm super happy for the Russian girls, specially Melnikova who has worked so hard and now can finally say she's an Olympic champion.
This is soooo different from what was expected, it feels like something went really wrong.
At least we finally got exciting finals, I was in the edge of my seat the whole time.
Things did go wrong....USA Gymnastics let sexual predators roam free for years, they ran out the best coach the world has ever seen, and allowed everything to focus on Biles. It's the most dysfunctional organization in all of Olympic sports and it's not particularly close.
I wish I could have watched it live on the edge of my seat instead of waking up to all of the news. Oh well. I’m still going to watch it during prime time tonight!
@@jetmech9287 who is the best coach that you are referring to?
Something has gone wrong for awhile now, Simone spread herself too thin, TV, advise, ads, photo shoots, when the devil was she going to be training??? and resting??? Building her relationship with her man??? Gabby did the same thing in 2016, tv, flying between gym and LA to film, has to be a big NO NO for all gymnasts and the amount of time they need to reach Olympic level performances and to allow their bodies to recuperate, as well as their minds and souls. The Landi's should know better and said NO tv, limited social media (Bela did this with Mary Lou prior to 1984 games) but they are not used to this- in France there isn't all the hype around the Olympics and the Gold medalists don't have the opportunities that they do in the US. Well if she opt's to drop out for the rest, her replacement is Jade in the All-Around and if she's drops out then Mykayla has the chance...if she drops out of Event Finals, Mykayla replaces her on vault, and if not it goes to a reserve athlete...Bars goes to Melanie de jesus dos Santos for France, Beam to Urara Ashikawa of Japan and Floor to Jennifer Gadirova from the UK!!!
I believe USA gymnastics is being allowed to be a propaganda instrument for nbc. NBC has exclusive coverage of Olympics thru 2032; so nothing major is going to change for US tv viewers. Too much media pressure is placed on these girls. They are the best in the world; but gymnastics followers want to see other teams compete and experience a full international competition. I’m sick of all things Simone or all things for whoever is the media darling of the quad.
The problem with USA is they only focus on Simone, it honestly felt like the other girls were just there to fill up the team.
When USA won on 2012 and 2016 THEY WERE A TEAM and that’s why they were able to win.
What do you want to say that other girls are bad
@@ranojutro426 she’s just saying that for 2012 and 2016, they were looked at as a team that they really took the best from each member in each apparatus. This time around it almost felt like “simone and what others can add” from the USA. In 2016 though simone was there, kocian and gabby led the bars, laurie and aly led beam and floor. So literally it wasn’t about one person. This year USA quals as 2nd suddenly goes to simone not doing this or that. She literally scored high despite the penalties and yet she’s still blamed for qualifying at 2nd.
This is what I've been saying the whole time. It was more about Simone than the team
SO true. They forgot that team means team, not a soloist with back-up.
Exactly, it was always “Simone is unbeatable” and “any team with Simone on it will win” which puts so much pressure on Simone and isn’t good for the other team members either.
So proud of the russians for coming though! They really made history today, давай Россия! 🇷🇺
i get used to watch this sport since i saw Aliya from her prime until now.shes the queen on this sport
Руские ребята эделали все що они могли и въграли первое место в полнисти эаслужено.
The Russians did everything they needed to and won the 1st place, that's that. Congratulations. I am Bulgarian but appreciate , like and respect their style and hard work.
Sooooo proud of Russia but wish Mustafina was there to share this moment she’s worked her whole life for 😕❤️
You know what’s kind of weird? A friend of mine told me today, Mustafina has been through tons of Shit and she never really left the arena
This got me thinking, of course I put simones health over everything, but how much of that was her ego telling her “this time won’t be easy for you”
@@sinhueherrera8984 thats all it is, ego. She just told reporters nothing but her pride was injured. The media's been hyping her for years and its never been a problem til now. Why? In the past, her scores BOOSTED the team total but there was amazing talent from others too so they werent DEPENDANT on her scores and could win (by a lesser margin) without her. But teammates of the past are injured, moved to ncaa, or retired and this team was not exceptional enough for her to coast to gold with errors. Suddenly a well balanced russian team made it necessary for her to COMPETE for the first time in years. Shes been winning with falls and out of bounds forever so she choked when she had to relearn what it means to strive for perfection. She took all that stress and neatly handed it out to her teammates instead. Suni, Jo, and Grace impressed me with their perseverance.
@@kareharpies I just feel like how you gonna leave the team like that but show back up for yourself…
@@mikegarcia597 its crazy how the pr machine has alreay spun this 🤯!
@@nabojsa I agree with you, you just dont think mid air to do only one and half twists, It felt like it was already planned, kinda weird... she should have withdrawn before competition started...
I can't find a single video of the Russian performance without it being cut. Why is NBC refusing to show Russias performance that won them the Gold? They only show Simon and highlights from the US? I smell BIAS
All the full replays are now on the Olympics web site. 😊
Russia has deserved gold for a long time
Great Britain was a awesome surprise! Those 2 sixteen year olds came through for ROC Nation!
The twins with Amelie and Alice did team GB so proud.!!! So proud of our girls they’ve created history…. 93 years since the podium!!! Very emotional 😭 even if can’t watch most of it!!! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I know Americans are very patriotic. But what Valentina Rodionenko said turned out to be TRUTH.
If they took Simone Biles off the team, the girls wouldn't win the gold. And that can be taken on a positive side!
Don't put pressure on a single athlete to raise the scores for the entire team.
It happened in 2008 with Liukin and Shawn.
It happened in 2012 with Gabby and Raisman.
It happened in 2016 with Biles.
I hope that national coordinators learn to build a FULLY STRONG team that doesn't depend on ONE.
They should’ve put MyKayla Skinner in!🤦🏻♀️
@@indakgalak my thoughts exactly
@@indakgalak It’s like u didn’t really read what he said
@@indakgalak instead of who? Grace and chiles delivered
2016 wasnt biles alone. the entire team was rather strong and the russians were weak back then. they were 8 points ahead of russia
Finally Russia defeated USA team even with their "goat" on the game. 👏👏👏👏🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺
You know what? I'm not even mad about this, because USA gymnastics committee is in some need of a slice of humble, pie, for some time now. And a Lot of us fans and those commentators as well, especially Tim Dagget 🤮. But anyway, congrats to their silver medal, especially to Grace and Jordan, cause they won't have another chance to medal.
Ps: Love your voice girl... Byeeee
Holy words! That's why competitions are never won beforehand. Anything can happen, anytime, anywhere, with anyone. You can have the best team, but if the best team does not perform to the best of their abilities or like today there is a problem with the superstar and nobody steps up, you win "only" a good silver.
Biles fans are so rude and arrogant.
I can still remember Tim saying "Team USA will absolutely win gold" something along those lines at trials...
@@albertitomoon5002 & the classic “USA could send a B TEAM and still win” ah yeah
@@natalieblackmore4134 "USA could send 3 teams and they would place 1, 2, 3"
I'm so glad my gb girls pull through, but them getting 3rd doesn't justify becky not being on the team! I'm so happy for Russia they did absolutely amazing! On all of the broadcasts being shown in England, ththry were so focused on simone and the us Russia rivalry, they showed only 2 gb routines and they ended up getting 3rd! It was amazing to come back to get 3rd after 2 rotations being in 7th place!
British media embarassed themselves, they were too Americanised, every minute it's USA this and Simone that. They even cut off routines to talk about Simone. They forgot there was a British team, it was only after eveything was over and GB won they realised it.
Congratulations on the bronze. I hope the team gets the recognition they deserve in GB and totally agree about Becky. That was awful.
@@anomanderrake3593 Really? Wow so bizarre
@@eimardgomes1128 Yeah unfortunately.
@@anomanderrake3593 Not entirely true. Our useless BBC were out-bidden by Discovery+ for the whole Olympics and can only show 2 live events at the same time (1 on TV and 1 online). They DO have a few camera crews out there but are not allowed to show anything live, hence all live broadcast material is chosen by the Discovery+ directors, NOT by BBC sport, and they have to ask for permission to show individual athlete performances afterwards. Its all about the money unfortunately, and it won't be any better for the next Olympics. If I could record Discovery+ I'd ditch the BBC completely, which I'm seriously thinking of doing anyway
I'm from a small non-western country and has been a great fan of Russian gymnastics for years. Even though I was rooting for Russia, I never expected them to actually win the Team final.
Please don't hate me for saying this, but honestly I've been so sick of the "We Americans are the best" "The USA has the strongest athletes and will win with our C team" and "You can only wish for silver with Simone present" narrative from the media, coaches and commentators. Not only did it foster arrogance, it put US athletes with great pressure and expectations, as if winning gold is expected of them and silver is a 'lost'. All the attention and pressure finally push Simone over the edge, and I sincerely hope she will take the time to take good care of her mental health.
I really hope this experience will humble the American media and learn that their athletes are human too. Athletes owe the public nothing, even if they didn't deliver as well as they could have, even if they 'only' won a silver or bronze or nothing at all, their fellow countrymen should be proud of them for representing their countries as elite athelets.
The public saying was that "when Simone Biles is around, you are playing for second place".
That narrative cause more harm than good for Simone
You are correct. I was glad to see the USA humbled. I love watching the Russian gymnasts and very happy to see them win gold. Hard earned and well deserved!
@@bostaurus1 yea its hilarious coz before the competition, bile's SKII commercial was playing. maybe she shouldnt have done that many commercials before the olympics. but i am sure she will still get the AA gold. she can afford to reduce her difficulty greatly and still get the gold
As an American, I completely agree. Arrogance is our biggest downfall. Not just in gymnastics just in general. The sad part is we never learn 😔
THE problem from the start was the constant cocky talk of “We can send in two teams and they will go 1-2 hands down” or else “It won’t come down to a few tenths in Tokyo”!!!! (P.s. #TomOUT). Putting SOO MUCH f**ing pressure on the girls and especially Simone every time NBC was on air - really did more harm than good! It’s impossible to meet any kind of expectations for these very young ladies no matter how they do! They even announced ‘Gold Over America’ tour months before the team was even announced. All this big talk from everyone who’s not actually going out and competing. I hope that this Team final will remind them that this is sport and anything can happen and hopefully bring everyone’s expectations down by at least 50%. They don’t say “don’t count your chickens before they hatch” for nothing.
And I’m soo unbelievably proud of Russia (i know it’s technically ROC but i don’t care) and Great Britain! They did so well! 🎉🎉😭
happy for Russia, i guess that the Russian coach manifested this??? lol proud of their hard work
Lol. I remember watching a video and the coach said simone was the whole team and without her they would fail or something like that. 😶 Guess she was right
@@stacy-annfrederick3680 Well partially. Because it was simone herself that errored and quit. She wasn’t injured.
@@LuciaGarcia-pe1uu i saw one video saying that her leg was wrapped up! so maybe she did get injured? idk hopefully not thoug
also, no hate to the USA they killed it but i just thought it was weird what the coach said then it happened
Nah, with Biles working good they will reach 2 more global points, not enought for the win.
This was basically Russia vs. Suni.
Hahahahahahahah
I was surprised on how well composed Sunisa was s
Lmao, Russia vs Suni and the absence of MyKayla and Jade...
I love suni. Hope she gets gold in the AA.
who is Suni?
HacksignKT Sunisa Lee, she carried the team.
I'm Russian. I am very pleased to read the comments of support to Russia. Thank you all!
To hell with the politics that even got into the Olympic Games! To hell with the puppet media!
Russians love sports and sincerely support every country, even if Russia did not pass
The fact that the USA was still able to get second is amazing but congrats to Russia! They won the men and women team competion.
Congrats to Jordan for really stepping up. Her first big deal international senior meet, and having to really up her game.
So proud of her ❤
@@lilbatz True and same here, been rooting for her since 2017, now she is an Olympics Silver medallist. Was hoping she would make an individual event tho.
The Russians were suspended, allegedly. This is the 'ROC' team. So technically, Russia didn't win.
@@argoneonoble It's just Russia under a different name.....If they were suspended they shouldn't be allowed to compete at all. And ROC stands for Russian Olympic Commitee
@@argoneonoble ROC literally stands for "Russian Olympic Comitee".
So yes, it IS Russia, just with a different name and flag.
As an American, I'm not even mad, I'm very, very happy for Russia. I'm sad about what Simone is going through, but Tom really annoyed me with his "I'm not worried about a few tenths" comments, not to mention Tim & Nastia's "USA could send 15 teams and all contend for gold" comments. That being said, silver is AMAZING and they put up a great fight for it. It makes me happy that they're genuinely happy with the silver. The '08 team always looked devastated when they got silver (which I guess is understandable, but IIRC they didn't really have a chance) and idk it's nice that they're so happy and proud of themselves and each other.
Listunova is so elegant and beautiful! I love her gymnastics. And the Russian gymnasts were all amazing and have beautiful lines. I have mixed feelings about Simone's decision.
The Russians will always be better gymnasts because they have artistry which the Americans don't. Laurie Hernandez came the closest. Because the Russians study ballet also. I think Biles pulled out because she was getting beat by the Russians.
I no longer care about Simone's decision. It is what it is let the games begin. In the end, it doesn't matter about Simone. Simone Biles is part of the past. Life & time go on. We're all human.
Russia was beautiful. They didn't just show excellence, but a lot of heart. Melnikova is a star. Her floor routine was anything but routine. Her face as she ended, it has me smiling right now. The first thing she did after celebrating with her team was ask Simone what was up and if she was okay. Class.
Now USAG. I am not on the inside, but I talk to enough people who have insight to know that Tom is a very emotional person. I'm a feeler. I love emotions. However, Tom is exactly the same guy who was throwing tantrums on the sidelines while his ill-prepared gymnasts struggled 1996.
I don't think he is necessarily a bad person, but I think he is too reactive to be making decisions that involve making or killing people's lives. Hell, his decisions can make or cost millions of dollars for people and companies/organizations.
Furthermore, I find him to be narcissistic and vindictive. For various reasons....
I also know there's something wrong because of how wrong, in general, the gym fandom was. I was _really_ wrong. I thought we were unbeatable. Hell, I thought the B team would win gold. I thought leaving Becky was stupid because GBR had no chance at a medal in any situation and Becky was the only one who could win anything.
I’m going to say this as nicely as I can, Sunisa was the only gymnast that carried the team and delivered. The judges really hammered Grace and Jordan on beam for there form on the acro-series & leaps which were not 180°. Floor, Grace going out of bounds twice & Jordan going OOB & Falling was really the death of the gold hope. Suni really shined with a 15.4 on bars & 14.1 on beam and probably the best floor routine of the year for her. Unfortunately the rest of the team couldn’t help. Even tho Russia fell twice on on beam there form and execution & difficulty was way better. I just hope Suni can get a gold on bars so she can officially be an Olympic champion! And no disrespect to Simone because I really do feel bad for her and hope she gets better for finals but for her to say “y’all will be fine , I’ve been to an Olympics before” well kinda easy for her to say since she has an Olympic gold medal & now the rest of the team won’t!
I completely agree. Sunisa carried the night. I wish Mykayla had Grace's spot. Unfortunately vault and floor would've made all the difference here, and I think her scores were not high enough. Mykayla is always underscored in the USA, but has great scores abroad.
@@MsBlushing24 Did you watch qualifying? Mykayla got destroyed in execution. If her scores were used from qualifying in the TF, they would have scored even lower having to count her bars. This isn’t a dig at Mykayla either, the entire US program needs a wake up call that throwing poorly executed high difficulty skills isn’t going to cut in the COP going forward.
@@allisonmarygallagher She scored higher than both grace and Jordan in qualifying.
@@MsBlushing24 myk would of been worse.
Right. I wish simone would've decided she didn't want to do her YDP on vault and just quit mid competition BEFORE they picked the team...it could've changed everything (the makeup of the team). I thought her delivering the YDP at the Olympics was...clutch for us on that apparatus. But I guess when the nerves get to you they get to you...cant she just be given an Ativan by the team dr and sent back out there?! Lol
Go Russia, I love you so much! Your people are the best! Greetings from Germany!
First, congrats on your comments in this video, very respectful and fair. I don't think we can compare this 2021 team to the previous ones, just because the training system has changed dramatically. The Karolyis brought with them this sovietic way of doing, which was absolutely damaging for human beings, but efficient. Team USA always won just like USSR and Romanian teams always won at that time, because no one cared about those girls, no one. They were mistreated and abused, and held under control by fear. That's what we call winning at all costs, and it worked back then, just like it worked for team USA when coached by the Karolyis. Thanks god, this period is over. We can hope for non psychologically damaged athletes, but also expect very "human" athletes, who experience failures sometimes. And that's what happened today. I think the girl suddenly realized (Simone included) that they were not unbeatable, that they could be fragile too, and nervous, and it surely is a shock for those girls who were so sure they would win kind of easily. It's a shock for the public too because we were so used to it, we just took this victory for granted. And yes, Tom should be prepared to get himself an other job, but... The change was good though, we need to bring humanity back in this gym house! And human sometimes wins, and sometimes loses, that's just the way it is. And to be honest, I'm glad that suspens and drama are back into gymnastics competitions, it's kind of boring to watch it knowing already who's gonna win this. Anyway, full respect for all those girls out there, gymnastics is so beautiful, but soooooo hard and demanding too, so congrats to all of them. A special wow for Suni Lee, I love this athlete, and wish her all the best.
Exactly ! Winning is awesome but not when the training regimen includes fear and intimidation and the athletes feeling like they cant speak up for themselves.
@@StacyA1000 Winning is awsome. No matter how.
And in every Win you have to submitt. Discipline.
Or you are gifted, or you have to work your a*** of.
But in any circumstance you have to sacrifice a part of your freewill and speach.
I actually was hoping that Russia would win. Even though I’m an American, I always find Russian gymnasts to be more artistic and elegant! I like watching their gymnastics more than ours. American gymnasts only do tricks and flip, but it’s the little dance elements that Russians excel at.
Somewhere out there, the Karolyi's are shaking their heads and yelling at their tvs.
Anyways, congrats to team Russia! Well deserved.
LMAO Imagine that 🤣😭
the Karolyi's should be in JAIL periodttt. They should never be back like ever again
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.
Marta would never stand for any of this.
@@kda4003 Are you implying that it would be worth it for the athletes to be under Marta and abused to have a better shot at gold.... 🤢🗑
@@kda4003 Martha is a terrible human being. I don't care if she wouldn't like this. Abuse is NEVER okay.
I'm happy Russia won. It's also kind of funny all the gymnasts from every country are falling everywhere and all the countries are giving each-other high fives that would never happen in a normal year lol. Goes with a crazy year of covid.
It’s not a “loss” the US earned the silver.
After all the hype around USA winning the gold, it does seem like a loss.
@@JD-zd8tm everyone??? The team is literally simone, suni, Jordan and grace. Everyone remembers The 08 team and the Russian teams from 12 and 16.
@@leighannjohnson1194 That’s outside media who know nothing about gymnastics putting that pressure on them. These athletes never stated they are going to win the gold.
@@JD-zd8tm Let’s see… in team finals I remember Russia, and the USA in 2008. For AA I remember Aly Raisman, Viktoria Komova, and Shawn Johnson. For beam I remember Laurie Hernandez, Sui Lu, and Nastia Liukin. For bars I remember Madison Kocian, He Kexin, and Nastia Liukin. I remember many silver medalists. Being 2nd best in the world at something is amazing! Let’s give silver the credit it deserves 🥈
Because all the other teams were way worse and basically had no chance of top 2
Congratulations to all the medalists 🥇🥈🥉👏
Best comment!
This is a world competition and the USA isn't always going to earn the gold. But the USA athletics can still be proud to win silver or even bronze. So, yes, congratulations to all the medalists and also, to all the athletics who did their best, even if they didn't make it to the podium.
They underestimated the competition and felt untouchable, and by they I mean TF, USAG and the media not the team or the coaches. I feel like they were blinded, they only saw domestic scores and said we’re good. Also the judges were harsh on everyone but they did took deductions from dance elements and artistic elements and we know Russia is one of the best in that area and USA has room for improvement.
I’m so happy for ROC they totally deserved it, as well as USA that silver was good considering all the adversities they had to pull through including being the Olympics their first international competition in a while and GB totally deserved that too.
Felt a little bad for Japan, China and Italy but I guess not everyone can win :(
Viani, yes, everyone kept saying the US was so deep, and I didn't see it. I mean they're amazing but nothing as deep as the selection pool of 2016. Anyway, I am satisfied with results too and happy for GB, but would have been equally happy had Italy made the podium too.
@@lovely7983 I think it was the arrogance. Not from the gymnasts but fans, media, etc.. We were not unbeatable like in 2016.
@@duranca With Simone competing at the level she usually does it would have been an easy win.
@@lovely7983 What happened was completely unexpected. You're being harsh. It's hard not to feel like you have a good chance of getting gold when you have the best female gymnast in the world on your team, someone so good they have to underscore her because they think it's unfair that she's so much better than everyone else. What happened was so unexpected and the remaining girls were still able to pull of silver with a few big mistakes.
@@katepaulson9688 Only if they ALL hit, including Simone. Remember then went into the finals in 2nd place behind ROC.
Some of you all just need to get used to not being in number one position all the time because a champion will never remain a champion forever so take your second place and stop whinning. Too much pressure was put on the young lady. The media and many people made it look like it will be a Biles game and not a team event.
YES! Thank you!
So true. Simone brought in so many new fans, and deservedly so, so they are used to only seeing the wins. But if you've followed gymnastics for any length of time, you know it's just a matter of time before Russia or China (or someone else!) is back on top. It's cyclical.
The pressure has always been on the other young ladies of years past as well. But congrats to our silver and the Russian team on their gold.
yes I agree!
I’ve been a fan of USA gymnastics since 1991. I was used to definitely not being number one.
Well, USA is just all about power and arrogance. You guys forgot that Russia(the former Soviet Union) was the original superpower of artistic gymnastics. Gymnastics back then during the cold war was dominated by the Soviets and it was very daring, creative and elegant that time. On the other hand, USA gymnastics lacks the charm and artistry that the gymnasts from the eastern europe posses.
If treating athletes as humans means coming second place, I'm all for it!
You couldn't explain this comment in 100 yrs. It's complete nonsense pretending to be virtue signalling.
I'm certainly not for abusing athletes, but as a former gymnast and coach I can tell you that the girls need discipline and consistency, they need a leader. We unfortunately didn't get that from Tom. Simone at only 24 years old speaks with more grace and maturity than he does.
@@94gymnast as a former gymnast and coach I agree they need guidance but guidance or not they are not omitted from health issues.
@@jetmech9287 virtue signaling, really? are you unaware of the disaster of USA gymnastics and the abuse that has gone on for years?
@@KaitCervi what does that have to do with Simone walking off the floor?
Ironically the one person who would understand what simone is going through is gabby. She was the reigning olympic champion and the pressure to hit coupled with the knowledge people wanted her to fail (so they could hate on her more) was immense. Put some respect on Doug's name cuz she never let the team down. Maybe now simone will have more sympathy for why gabby was miserable in her comeback.
True, but how is that 'ironic'?
Why people wanted Gabby to fail? I always thought that she was very popular
@@argoneonoble well its ironic because theyre not friends. So the one person who could empathise with the anxiety and panic and advise simone how to get thru it is the one person she cant talk to.
while their situations are rather different, honestly i think gabby had it worse. While simone has gotten backlash for her bailed vault and decision to withdraw, many people still rightfully respect and admire her. in gabby's situation she was flooded with hate and doubt in multiple senarios (2015 AA qualifications and marta's decisions to withhold maggie, her placing lower than skinner in trials, and the disappointing 3rd place AA finish in 2016 AA quals), gabby really got so much hate for no reason. the pressure that she faced vs simones are different imo, however i hope simone can deal with the pressure in the individual aa/ef.
I actually thought gabbys comeback was great! She won silver in AA at worlds, made the olympic team once again and was top5 AA in qualifying. I think that's a remarkable comeback and only a few gymnasts accomplished something similar.
I'm so glad it's come down to the other girls!!! It's their time now!!! It's so great that they get their own time to shine at their first Olympics!!! So excited to watch now!
The other girls ain't shit either way their asses got kicked too! Their gymnastics is ugly, boring & repetitive. LOL! Have a cry. When I see Russia, China, Japan, Italy, France, Brazil & other nations polished style I realize American gymnastics is hella political & ugly right now. There are a lot of individual gymnasts who are better. U.S.A wins because of its power in the world not because its gymnasts are great.
@@ctruth6185 so true!
god ! Viktoria Listunova and the british twins !! these girls were all lit like hell , specially on floor , so fun to watch ! the artistries and elegance of the Russian team is beyond words ! a well deserved win !!!
it was really refreshing to see all the great athletes from all countries come to shine here again ! even the Italians were on fire . really sorry for Simone and the us team , but well the times they are changing ..always..and artistic gymnastics is not just about who's the best tumbler .the us team looks more like bodybuilders than gymnasts these days ...and really lack in elegance a lot .... so I am happy for all these athletes who train so hard all their lives that they get a chance again to shine and be seen ....I hope for Jade to make some medals at individuals ..she is a real great athlete thou with grace and fun to watch !!
@@nicolemariebrown4076 ruclips.net/video/qCPymBEKOtQ/видео.html
You must be Canadian or British? American TV coverage blocks out every gymnast who isn't American. We get to see nothing so I don't watch anymore. RUclips is all I can manage.
This proves anything can happen to anyone anywhere. Even with simone getting taken out and there rough prelims Grace, Suni, and Jordan all fought for it and didn't give up. Clearly proud is a understatement. Team USA really fought for it cause they wanted it more than anything.
Russia really deserved it! I’m so happy they got the gold!
I always thought Jade should have been on the team. Her vault and floor would help the team. Simone and Jade are the top gymnasts on floor and vault. Simone and Suni are excellent on bars and beam. Yes, US would lose a spot at the Olympic but it would be used to make the team better. The pressure got to Simone.
The committee did not have a contingency plan if Simone cannot compete - not her fault. They put everything on her (wrong) and just went with trials placements - Simone will take care of it. Too worried about hurting people's feelings to mold a fully top level team. Simone was like, "I'm out." I hope Mykayla is still in Japan and practicing.
@@danasuperstar
Mikayla is retiring and so is Simone after the Olympics, not to be rude or anything but I feel like Mikayla should’ve taken Graces spot. With Grace as an individual that gives everyone a chance to win a medal instead they put mikayla as an individual when she could’ve really helped the team. She could hit all 4 routines on all events.
Jade on the team might have won them gold but she was already on the individual spot since before trials even happened by her own choice so it would've never happened anyways
@@danasuperstar I agree that not having a backup plan for a situation like this was something Tom and the committee completely failed at. Simone basically was forced to carry the whole vault rotation on her own with Jordan and Grace both only doing DTYs instead of an Amanar and a Cheng. Not a good plan at all.
Jades bars is good too!
That was a give in as I don't feel the U.S is all that strong this year with or without Biles.
@@eddieschultz3289 CBS media knew the Russian team was strong and consistent Yet they were selling streamable video of their view of the Olympics for 5 dollars a head.
Injuries really took a toll no Riley or Morgan. In my opinion Leanne should have made the team over Grace. Her floor and vault scoring was higher all year. She has excellent execution.
So happy my Russian girl got the gold medal!! And same for a new historic medal for GB!!!!!
EDIT: Both the Russians women’s and men’s team won gold!!!!
You can’t just show up and expect a gold medal, which is the sense I was getting from the US team and selection committee. Like at Trials, it seemed they were already celebrating their medals. I def got the feeling that’s why MyK was so upset, she thought just making the team would ensure her a gold. Just me? I hope Simone is ok. She’s probably really frustrated at herself and I hope she takes time for herself. She’s still the GOAT, no matter what. Just a human one that has bad days, like the rest of us. The timing of hers was just really unlucky.
@@leykimayri Glad I’m not alone, lol 😝 Trouble always follows when you start to believe your own hype. Hype doesn’t win. The Russians showed up with fires in their bellies and that made all the difference. 🔥🔥🔥 TBH, I don’t even care who got which medals. I just love seeing people live their dreams, USA or not. 🥰
yea your right. she literally said in a video that making the team is guaranteed gold. this mindset is what screwed them over. This was a humbling lesson and hopefully usag will change their ways
I don’t like how this reported sounds. Blaming this on one man is ridiculous. The media should take most of the credit for Simone’s exit. The media is the one that puts the pressure on.
Bet you don't feel that way when they praise her.
She bedazzles a goat on the back of every leo even though shes only the 17th most accomplished olympian in gymnastics history (by medal count). She needed humbling but i am sorry shes getting bullied.
@@kareharpies Gymnastics is not only an Olympic sport. She’s the most decorated gymnast in the history of the sport with 24 world championship medals, 19 of them being gold. This number doesn’t even include the 3 golds and 1 bronze from Rio, national titles, and medals from other competitions. She’s absolutely the GOAT. This is just 1 competition out of her entire career. No one comes close to the the skill, difficultly, or amount of medals she has.
Simone accepted far too many projects in this pre-Olympic year, she should have turned off the social media and trained, refused TV and just invested quality time into herself...she is obviously a much more private person and introvert than she let's on.....
@@kareharpies Finally, someone said it. She began the whole GOAT thing herself. Of course it began as a light-hearted "joke" as she put it and I'm glad that she was able to shut her haters down rightfully so, but I would've hoped her PR team would've told her how it her self-declaring she's the GOAT would be sopped up by the media and be branded on her for life/at least the Olympics. She thought that she would be able to handle her GOAT declaration and carrying it out and tbh she has done so well and lived up to expectations, except for now when it counts (at least to her and her team) the most. I think that she is a humble person though, except for that brief reckless moment in which she decided to stick it her haters by GOATing herself; I feel like she likely even regretted it soon after, but it was already done.
Regarding "why". The team in London and especially in Rio were crazy strong. Simone, Ali - both super capable on the floor, good on beam. Laurie - great on beam, decent on the floor, Madison excellent on bars, Gabby - great all-arounder competing as team-member and experienced Olympian. Sorry, but Grace and Jordan don't come close. This win showed, that balanced, good enough in everything team can beat a team with a superstar on couple of apparatus (apparati?)
uhhhh i wouldn't say they are superstars on a couple of apparatus. they are pretty well rounded too.
@@ethansPOV Suni and Simone tho...
@@queenofnevers6990 well suni and Simone are pretty well rounded, that’s why they won aa. They’re just GOD tier at certain apparatuses
Ethan Tam Grace wasn’t top three on any event. Leanne, MYK, or Riley would have been better choices. It’s a crime Jade was never considered for the main team.
Tbh in some ways I feel like this is also the judges finally hammering US gymnasts for things they usually get away with. Yes, there's definitely unique circumstances behind the scenes but I also think that the US was no longer allowed to glide on big tumbling and massive vaults for once. It's like the judges suddenly remembered that form and landings matter, and no you can't just rely on robotic tumbling.
True. But Suni was underscored too. And her form is pretty good.
Well stated.
team usa womens gymnastics is diverse in their team members, in specialization and skill, as they should be. team russia looks like robotic clones.
@@LWC8 she was not
@@callinfordooty5502 Woah somebody's pissed they won they gold lmao
I am very happy, I waited for this great moment for 9 long years, Russia is finally gold medalist. Now about US team, this was overconfidence fueled by the toxic media they have, Tim and Nastia saying that US could fill 3 teams and still get the gold, not true at all. Then this whole pressure on Simone "The GOAT", they forgot she was human, they dehumanised Simone. Then arrogance plays its part too, this culture of "we are the best", finally honestly its lack of discipline, they spent some time without a coordinator and Tom is too soft, he wants to change the abuse culture but discipline, dieting(eating right, but not overeating and not starving too) , control, methodism is crucial.
Agree with everything, but the dieting comment.
You are so right about US media. As soon as qualifications started I could see right away that Tim and Nastia had way over-hyped the depth of talent in the US. They are part of the problem. Russia was amazing and they deserved the gold.
You had me until dieting and control. No gold medal should come at the cost of lifelong physical and mental health.
@@Ludovica.storti.godunko good diet is needed. Healthy and balance nutrition as fuel and energy for the athletes NOT to be mistaken as starving/anorexic culture.
@@guardianofthegalaxy2051 but were do you get they don’t eat healthy? They are olympians of course they do, if your comment comes because of the way they look you are wrong.
The USA didn't loose.. they literally got 2nd place.. that's not loosing. They are 2nd in the world. That's gotta count for something.
They lost.
@@Appaddict01 hater
ayden hudson LOL...I’m an American STAN. But, the truth is the truth. They could have chosen a better team.
The USA lost because their star player threw her team under the perverbial bus, no mention of that?
I’m supper happy for Russia. And super happy for Grace, Suni and Jordan. And respect 100% Simone’s decision. But let’s just say that this final really proved how Tom Forster doesn’t know shit on what he’s doing. MyKayla Skinner is a more older gymnast who has more experience, she would manage this team final really well. Jade Carey could throw some huge scores in two big events. It’s not about Grace and (Jordan I guess), they were wonderful and handled the pressure really well.. it’s just that this is the Olympics not some US competition, and every score counts. That’s one of only things I can compliment about Martha, she knew how to make an Olympian team.
Ps: also I loved how, this final showed US how their not the center of the world, even on gymnastics, that there’s plenty of gymnasts like them that are working hard and are as also good all around the globe.
And I’m not praising the Karolyis at all. Their system was un-human and they should be condemned for that.
But has Mykayla been consistent, no… If Martha was still over them, I really believe Mykayla would’ve been an alternate again. She just looks stiff as board imo.
@@Creole164 she overscored both Grace and Jordan on this Olympics..
i hope Mckayla will make it to the vault finals.
I don't care if the US comes in last place. We do not need abusers like Martha Karolyi. A silver medal is a great accomplishment.
MyKayla got what she earned. End of story. Thankfully we won't have to go through this nonsense in the next quad without her revving up her fans to make them believe she is a better gymnast than the facts have always shown. And Jade chose to be an individual competitor. She competed to qualify for that spot and she reiterated her choice in trials when she said she would NOT give up that spot.
this has been the most bizarre few days… i get “sydney 2000 vault height error” vibes
just accept the fact that the Americans girls choked under pressure and were not the best. Listunova and Urazova have been eating Americans since juniors worlds of 2019. No one was surprised they dominate again. Melnikova and Lilia meanwhile were the perfect example of improvement and perseverance
@@jimaglonzoa.m6368 even from a completely unbiased perspective, things have been bizarre. and i’m not directing that toward any team or athlete. i agree with nearly all the scores, praises, and critiques, but that doesn’t mean it hasn’t been a strange competition 🤷🏼♀️
@@lollymae3079 then why correlate with a vaulting error?? Are you pertaining that this is also an error???
@@jimaglonzoa.m6368 i’m just trying to analogize to another bizarre olympic situation! the vault error in 2000 affected athletes from *ALL competing countries* … so i’m not using the example to discredit any one team or make an excuse for another. i apologize if the comparison offends or angers you, but i hope you can understand where i’m coming from.
It's the absence of spectators. So many athletes, especially Simone, feed off the applause and support to power through.
It’s the classic saying “Pride comes before a fall” the amount of crap we’ve seen spilling out of the US leading up to the games was ridiculous. They’re always over scored in the domestic meets so when they compete internationally and do the same routines scoring almost half a point lower it demoralises them. Also the constant “Simone vs herself” “no one can beat Simone” “she could do what she did in Rio and still win by 3 points” (courtesy of Timmy) has totally put so much pressure on Simone and sadly she just felt it too hard today and couldn’t continue. We all scoffed at V-Rod saying that russia could win without Simone, well they did. Whilst counting 2 falls.
However saying all that, a silver is still a fantastic recovery for the girls and certainly proves that USA doesn’t need to rely on Simone all the time, brought the other talented gymnasts to the front. I am hoping Simone is ok and can manage to shake off some of the pressure, she should think back to what her mum said to her before Rio “I want you to go out there and be the best Simone you can be and whatever the outcome is we’ll take it”
This was perfectly stated
The U.S. did not send their bed team. Grace should have never made the team and everyone that said so was proven right.
Given what the girls were facing with the departure of their leader and top performing gymnast, these girls did amazingly well. They are champs in my book.
The pressure of being considered the favorite, the jet lag and lack of time to acclimate to the time difference, and the blowback as to who made the team and who didn't, it is a massive mental exercise for girls that literally are barely out of their teen years. They should all be proud of themselves. And, congratulations to Russia. They were the better team out on the floor today.
the 3 girls should be proud of themselves. They stayed in there.
I'm Russian (living in Australia) and while I love the US gymnasts, I'm so happy we won. The commentators were always so focused on Biles and I really hope that this is a big reality check for US gymnastics, as everyone including themselves just thinks that they'll win no matter what.
As an American I think it was a humbling experience for us. Congratulations to Russia on winning gold 🇷🇺🥇
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I agree with you , but I also like the American team and Simone as a person and support them as they were all sexually abused by the same doctor so they have huge mental health pressure to push through also and if you watch videos on these athletes you'll see that they dont even expect to win , they just compete with themselves and the Gold medals just sometimes happen . So I was also going for them and russia too , and im Australian
Congrats to Russia!!!!
Well played Comrades
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Congratulations to Russia on a win well deserved.
honestly suni lee has a chance to win all around gold if simone doesnt pull it together. I predict Suni Lee will win all around!
I would feel so conflicted if that happens (and if Rebeca Andrade manages to snatch up AA gold either); so happy for Suni, but so sad for Simone!!
people moving over simone and putting the pressure now on miss suni. pathetic.
Simone is out of AA. So Suni is the only chance US has as Jade doesn't have the difficulty for medal.
You were right!👍🏼
potocatepetl It’s crazy, if this had happened in 2016 the team would have had Gabby, Aly, or Laurie as legit gold medal threats.
I also hated how people act like team USA is nothing without Simone. Like yeah she’s amazing but so are the rest of them??? And also like…. The Russians beat them in quals when Simone was there? Yes she wasn’t on her A games but she’s human and that’s perfectly normal.
But can we talk about what happened to China?!!!! :(
I was so hurt to see how they placed.
I don’t think this Chinese girls team is as good. I watched the olympic qualifications for both countries, tram USA is much better!
This truly broke my heart. Things went as wrong as they could go.
Chinese athletes are brillant, but so inconsistant, that's the problem. I was sur they would make a podium, I was impressed by what I saw during preparation. They'll get medals on beam though.
Rooting for Chenchen in beam finals.
I watched them and I feel like they were so underscored on beam... like they got 13'9s with a great execution (i might be wrong but i thought it was good)
The ROC Rocks!!
Sadly Tim and Nastia commented on the edited primetime version, when they already knew the results. I would love to watch them reacting live to that night event.
I cannot wait to see what Tim and Nastia are gonna say for the night broadcast.
Do you know what time it's going to be aired?
@@flavinhaluiz4147 Should be during the prime time coverage around 8pm Eastern on NBC.
@@JonnyMason than you!
@@JonnyMason I am not in the US. Is there any chance watching on RUclips? I really wanna watch US team in Gymnastic final. Pls share links if you have. TIA.
@@JonnyMason is it going to be on the NBC olimpic app?
I think a huge problem for the US team is the over-inflated and inaccurate scoring at domestic events. People are actually complaining about Grace/Jordan/Simone getting too low scores? Just compare their execution to the ROC and the lower scores are deserved. Execution scores at US domestic meets are simply too high, and USAG is just setting up their gymnasts to fail since they can't fix problems before hitting the international stage and being hammered on them. Also think team selection/placement at trials would've been different had execution been accurately scored. The inflated E scores across the board really hurt US gymnasts with actually good form like Leanne.
IMO...Only Grace and Jordan were over scored nationally. Simone just had a bad day and was still number one. Simone lost almost a point on her beam dismount and had a huge OOB on FX. Riley and Leanne had superior execution to Jordan. Grace just has not been consistent since 2018. She never seemed to hit her best routines. It’s why I felt she shouldn’t have been on the team. It’s kind of crazy MYK had better execution scores then Jordan on floor.😂
Awsome! Both the Russian men and the Russian women won gold !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Competing at the Olympics is super hard, winning, well, MEGA hard. Martha and Bela new that and coached accordingly and I now wonder whether the new administration and coaches know what it takes. Happy for the Russian team they just make gymnastics enjoyable- the grace the humility, well deserved
and is kinda ironic that when that Russian coach said "Remove Simone and we will easily beat them" everybody bashed her but well, apparently she wasn't that crazy 😂😂😂😂
My thought is that maybe social media is having a negative effect on the girls emotionally. I feel like they need to be isolated from it when they are at something as important as the Olympics. I could be wrong but it seems with everyone having their phones out all the time it just invites the whole world into the minds of these athletes.
I agree! They should not be allowed access.
I said this very thing back in 2012 when the attacks came at Gabby Douglas and here we are almost 10 years later and they aren't isolated from this.
they are all old enough to decide to turn off their phones. no need to isolate them.
I've wondered the same.
@@lisakiara10 of course they're old enough, but it's a matter of safety.
yesterday, THE GOLDEN BOYS 💪✊🤟
today, THE GOLDEN GIRLS ✌🎶😎
... and I think you're right, time for changes in team USA.
....... indeed, Simone is a human, as all of us.
Congratulations to the ROC women’s Gymnastics team, well deserved victory.
Russia, never ROC
Russia is great at gymnastics Im so happy for them.
and that is historically true they value excellence with artistry.
I said it once, and I'll say it again - Marta Karolyi was right when she said "There are lots of wonderful talented athletes, but when the pressure is on they collapse". That's exactly what happened with Simone I think... She is one of the most capable athletes of all time, but the team was relying too much on her and she was not ready for that, combined with the difficult covid situation.... This is a result of Tom's poor strategy while selecting the team, lack of international experience for the athletes and training and covid...Plus all of them had recent injuries...I think Tom doesn't have to be fired but he has to change his strategy an altitude dramatically, he's good just not at selecting teams and preparing the girls for the pressure that's to come... But I think if he's to get fired I think Valeri Liukin might be next....
Valeri held the position of coordinator of the women’s team and resigned not long after taking the position.
yep, he did not take the time of make the effort to Understand each team member for their weakness and strengths. what a slob of a coach.
Tom selecting by rank order is moronic.
Congratulations to the ROC, USA and GB! Well done, all!
In my opinion suni was carrying this team on her back and shoulders and gave her all and Tom definitely needs to be fired I noticed throughout these games that they were smiling laughing a lot and wasn’t really focused and they didn’t have a team Captain like Aly to get together and give them a peptalk before the last event.
Aly was a fricking rock
The Russians really deserved it, congratulations
Congratulations to team Russia well done ladies, your hard work shined in your performance.
Winning and losing is part of a game as simple as that....
But they didn’t lose...
@@eca2998 well... they lost the gold so technically they did lose. Overall they did great with a silver and should be very proud !
@@daisymae3258 Great Britain & Italy were better the judges held U.S.A up.
Ok I see all these comments about "Poor Simone!" but did ANYONE feel this way about Gabby Douglas in 2016? Nope. Hardly anyone. You are the same people who came online and raked that poor girl over the freaking coals. I have been decrying her treatment for YEARS. No one even remembers that poor girl, and if it wasnt for her, Simone would not have had the door open. People made fun of her looks, her hair and her face. It was horrible. People were cruel and negative to Gabby just for fun. Now Simone feels a TINY BIT of the pressure Gabby had to contend with, and she flops like a wet rag. Simone ALWAYS had EVERYONE cheering for her, and she STILL couldnt perform. Gabby had to perform WHILST EVERYONEwas hating on her. For no bloody reason. This will teach you all. Dont hate on people for no reason. Gabby suffered, and no one cared. Now Simone is feeling it too. But where is the sympathy for Gabby? How many evil people came on RUclips and talked about that girl like a dog. Funny now that you have all the sympathy in the world for Simone, yet none for Gabby.
Go Sunisa Lee hope for USA 🇺🇸
So proud of our Russian girls and congrats to team of USA,everyone was perfect in this final,they all make a great job🇺🇸🇷🇺🤍💙❤️
What happened to Simone being the GOAT? People will drop you so quickly Please respect the USA team as a whole Silver is still better than bronze and Congrats!!! to Team Russia.
@@You-dh1du Simone said that she didn’t want to continue compete in team final because she mentally didn’t feel she could go out and do her job. And she didn’t want to do more mistakes so her teammates would not get a medal, as they deserved. She just wanted to give her teammates their medals which they could without her.
And I mean… all the pressure the world has put on Simone. I understand that it was too much pressure. She’s only a human, and a kind one who does what she thinks is the right for her fellow teammates. But she is still a part of the team, and of course she is allowed to celebrate her silver medal with her team.
@@simonheinsen5418 yep it's as if they were expecting Simone to win it all by herself. I don't want to imagine the pressure they put on her. She has already proven so much in this sport and her team mates did really well to keep up. I hope for Simone that she is able to still compete and finish on a positive note for herself.
I know you probably didn’t mean to disrespect the Bronze medal but I am proud of team GB 🇬🇧 for getting it, and it’s a touch arrogant to be so dismissive of any podium position.
Can anyone tell Tim (and Nastia) that nothing is guaranteed in gymnastics, no matter whether it is Simone or anyone else? Because they keep making the same stupid comments at the olympics, and it's so unfair to gymnasts.
Remember 2012, about Jordyn Wieber: "Whoever wins the American Cup in the olympic year wins the olympic games" - really? Also in 2012, re. McKayla Maroney: "she will be olympic gold medalist on vault, no doubt about it" - oh, wait. And now, Simone and team USA, with the "guaranteed gold medal".
Well done Russia, Beautiful performances! It's hard to beat Russia in gymnastics. Their gymnastic program is their Crown Jewel. It always has been. God bless them.
Hard to beat them?!? The American team beat them in every major competition since 2011.
@@Appaddict01 they're talkin abt rhythmic gymnastics
Jordan’s front double to front full always makes me scared
Very true!
FR! super risky!
It was clear after the qualifications that Russia was on the rise and if they hadn't won today they would certainly have been a stronger competitor in the future. They have upped the technical difficulty and combined with their polished moves they are very dangerous. The US is definitely stagnating and needs a fresh vision. There will be no more 5+ point victories where they can simply out power and muscle everyone and still win with mistakes or subpar execution.
the USA has lost its way hadn't ya heard?
Don’t put all your eggs in one basket.
So what the Russian coach said was true. Take away Biles and they would beat them
They were second even with her.
potocatepetl C’mon that was with falls from the American team. Russia hit every routine in qualifying. If the American team had not counted falls. They would have had the lead even with Simone’s bad day.
@@Appaddict01 If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas
potocatepetl Russia counted two fall in TF. Let’s not pretend they were 2012 or 2016 type team.
potocatepetl Ohh....and with Tom’s absolutely terrible picking of the team. Rank order is a moronic way to pick a team.
I wonder how Aimee Boorman would have handled this. I don't think she would have let Simone quit. There are no more adults in the room. There's also no more team USA, if your top athlete and team leader can give up. The rebuilding process has to start with some discipline and making everyone accountable to the team.
Well what’s the alternative ? She continues to compete in that poor state of mind and suffers an injury ? What they do is insanely dangerous if you’re second guessing yourself and your ability. Which Simone clearly has been doing since day 2 of trials. She recognized she was going to put the team at risk of no possibly not medalling and worse yet injuring herself. She comes first.
Poor coaching is bad leadership just like the country.
Aimee wouldn’t have let her do all those crazy “Biles” skills. They only increased the hype and pressure every time she debuted one. It set her apart even more and in retrospect was a huge mistake.
We have come along way from the Cold War haven’t we. Now we got Americans sitting out events because stress levels are to high. This is what happens. Congrats to rest of team USA for picking up the slack. And congrats to Russia for wanting it more!
Politics ... agreed.
Congratulations to the ROC on their gold medals.
When this happened i literally thought about that Russian coach you did a video about. Welp cant say she didnt hit the nose on that one!
I had the exact same thought! She sounded cocky at the time, but she was right
Someone needs to check the Russians coaches luggage for VooDoo Dolls!
@@kevinjewell233 ...I had this same thought while I was watching...lol!
I don’t really think it’s fair to say that she was right. The usa would have put up a different team if they knew Simone wouldn’t compete and it the other girls wouldn’t have been thrown in last minute
@@M011y. how? Shouldn’t you send the best with or without Biles?
I wouldn't say this is the fault of the USA, but the hard work that ROC has displayed. All the the other countries are eying on the gold, that the US has reign supreme in the past 12 years. Just brush it off and comeback stronger in the next summer Olympics.
clearly team ROC proved their superiority. And amusingly one particular team's over confident strategy that backfired miserably relied only on one member to do all the job. Guess which team was that?
USA brings body builders to the gymnastics... Just to compare with gymnasts from other countries. It looks like the USA gymnasts hammer the nails when they run to jump or jump.
This was such a great final. For those of us who love the sport it does not matter who wins. We want the best to win! I will say this though... If Simone really is not in the headspace to compete as she likes, she should graciously give up the rest of the competition so reserves can compete. If she does not, it will look like she was only out for herself. She has nothing to prove. She is already the best, and those of us who love her would not be mad. It's OK to admit when you have reached you mental capacity for stress.
Hopefully Tom realizes he can’t put all his faith in one woman because literally anything can happen. He’s going to have to really look at strengths and put together the highest scoring team next time
yes in most business models this is called "single point of failure"...we try not to have those lol
Hope this kills rank order forever. Why he choose an athlete that wasn’t top three on any event is beyond me. Especially, when he had better options in MYK and Leanne.
the us gymnast should still be proud of themselves since its just even a honored to compete at the Olympics
I’m happy about it. They were so above themselves claiming that they would have won the olympics even with a B or C team. There you have it. Work and be humble. Congratulations for these Russian queens🎊
I watched with pleasure! Thank you team USA for good gymnastic and thank you my country for gold 💕 Girls, You are rock ❤️Proud of you!
Они забрали у нас гимн, флаг, но они никогда не смогут забрать характер и волю! Российская сборная, вы лучшие!