THE SARDAUKAR (House Corrino's Ruthless Imperial Military) DUNE EXPLAINED
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2022
- Featured throughout Frank Herbert’s Dune universe, the Sardaukar are legendary fanatical soldiers loyal to the Padishah Emperors of House Corrino.
Trained brutally from childhood, they were a near unstoppable force. With little or no resistance to their military strength, they ensured that emperor Shaddam IV remained in power and had control over the Imperium.
In this video, we’re going to explore the rise and fall of the Sardaukar.
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I like the creativity of the shields where nothing passes through unless under a certain velocity, that way people can move and breathe but not be shot. Definitely a creative way of bringing back sword combat into the far future.
Also super useful in space. No pesky debris blowing holes throw your spaceship.
Indeed.
so if your running as fast as you can will you just hit yourself with the shield?
Or just pass through the whole defense
Calling it a "membrane" feels more accurate to me, because it acts as a selective barrier
I dunno man I still think that *someone* would have thought of a gun that could do the job in however many thousand years passed
House Corrino essentially did with the Sardaukar what greedy companies do: they build up a reputation for quality and then once they have the market cornered, they abandon quality in favor of mass production.
And yet people know this and they still keep buying their shitty products, blame that to people lol
Simply put. Spitting truth out there. 👊🏻
It's more like the Sardaukar were trained and raised in an extremely harsh environment, they used this strength and hardiness to conquer the empire for House Corrino. Once they became essentially a police force for the Emperor, they got rich and lazy and lost their edge. The Fremen still have their edge considering the environment they live in on a daily basis. Hard times breed hard men and all that
It's more the Sardaukar are actually quality soldiers but, were getting evened out with other houses as they were used for a police force.
*Spoiler*
God Emperor Leto actually uses a marriage with House Corrina to gain control of the Sardaukar and enact his peace
From ehat i remember of the origonal series, the sarducar were actually pretty dam good. The reason the atradies were killed off was brcause their soldiers were getting comparable.
Honestly the Atreides defending those stairs were more intimidating than any Sardukar exhibited in the film.
Sadly there weren't enough of them
nahhh, i mean they looked cool but that scene with the sardaukar floating down into formation, that was cool af
Spoilers: in the books the Fremen are like 100x better than Sardukar. They've grown and prospered in an equally if not more inhospitable environment, indoctrinated into a life of "the tribe" the individual is nothing when compared to the success of the tribe. A handful of old men, women, and children. Kill literally a couple hundred Sardukar with a loss of about 2/50 while every Fremen are trained for combat. Those were far from the death commandos or higher class warriors. I can't wait for more movies :D
This was Thermopylae in miniature, if you think about it.
What made the Sardaukar more frightening than the Atreides forces was their method of silent approach. The Atreides were bold but they were loud, and they were trying to let them know they were there, and they were there to fight and defend. "Here I Am, Here I Remain". In contrast, while the Sardaukar weren't trying to hide either, their method of silent mass approach was far more psychologically effective because it lent credence to their image as an utterly unstoppable force. They didn't have to rush in because they were going to crush their enemies anyway. The elite fighting forces of the ancient Persian Empire, the Immortals, used the same tactics. Approach in a mass formation under cover of darkness, wear all black with a black veil over the face, and step quietly and do not utter a sound until the front ranks make physical contact with the enemy, and all while letting them see you all coming.
In the later novels, it is shown that the Sardaukar actually admired Duke Leto for his strong leadership abilities and honour. They also secretly held a deep contempt against the Padishah Emperor for his short-sighted pettiness and incompetence. If the Emperor hadn't been so stupid he could have betrothed Irulan to Paul and peacefully passed on his throne, but tyrants could never see past their own needs.
Makes sense that they eventually join the fremen for the god emperor.
Bethroned?? No such word pal! And you were wrong about that assessment.
Leto was at fault also. He could have pushed for that union and saved his house. Instead, he was trying to gain the throne for himself.
@@bjdaniels4228 What?
@@user-nz6dx2fj6h think about it the move would have been to wed Paul to Irulan beforehand. This ended up happening anyway after much upheaval and disruption. Again Leto’s ambition and the Emperor’s jealousy got in the way.
I love how in the book, after the initial Harkonnen/Sardukar Assault a fremen is telling Hawat about an assault the Fremen put down. He laments that they killed 100 Sardukar but, alas, lost 2 men.
When Hawat points out they were Sardukar he is visibly delighted, saying it was a pretty good fight. 😂
Moments later a fremen kamikaze runs a Sardukar transport of 300 with a single Ornithopter. The guy just watches and casually calls it a good exchange.
I was so hoping they put this scene in the movie!!! But....
We got the Duncan Hallway scene! Flick flickering!!
And yet, 5 mins later, those same Fremen gets ambushed and wiped by another Sardaukar unit they did nto see coming because a lot like the Sardaukar, they think high of themselves and didnt expect to be attacked after that.
And I think the two that they lost were adolescents. The Fremen were amused with the Sardukar's spirit and fighting abilities but not at all intimidated. It makes me ask if any former Sardukar came to Dune in order to join Emperor Paul's elite fighting Fremen. They were probably really good building material with the warrior mindset of constant training and fighting spirit.
My theory is that this scene will be in the second film, like at the start of the movie. bc this part of the books show just how nonchalant the Freman are at fighting or exchanging troops
I just thought it house harkonnnen on its own who attacked atreides
I think an important point has been overlooked: The Emperor did not deploy the Sardukar to conquer the Fremen. A "small" force of Sardukar were sent to secretly ensure House Atreides was destroyed, and this succeeded. The Emperor could not openly move against Leto, or it would have upset the balance of power between the Throne and the Landsraad.
Facts!
Ummmm no, sardaukar were deployed en mass after the attack in house atreides to wipe out the fremen in a pogrom which was abandoned because too many sardaukar were getting killed.
Game of thrones things
Exactly
Haven't read the book but if how it was, what did they told happened to Atreides? Did the Harkonnens got all the blame and the Emperor managed to keep his hands clean? Wouldn't there have been any political consequences for the Harks? I mean, it's just like NoKor just levelling SoKor, sure there would be reactions from other countries.
The shields didn't protect users from lasers. Hitting a shield with a laser gun basically triggered an explosion which would kill both people
Yes that's right, which is why they stopped using the lasgun against shields
@@filmcomicsexplained I absolutely love that concept in the books. Mutually assured destruction. Was also used on purpose in the Brian Herbert books
According to the 3-book prequel they FIRST discovered WHY you don't shoot a "Lazgun" at a shield. It results in a literal small nuclear reaction. So not just the target AND shooter die BUT apparently everyone else in the area goes too. So that wasn't a good idea for the movie. Good for a scene but not everyday in verse ise
not just any kind of explosion either. an atomic one. that wont just kill people in the battle, but people out of it, and contaminate the area.
A solution to this would be to fabricate small flying robots with laser guns, or larger humanoid robots with laser guns. Ensuring that anyone that fights with shields against you has no hope of survival, but you would by virtue of not being in the fight personally.
Can we PLEEEAASSE get more vids on this universe? I do love it so.
Check out Quinn's ideas. He is the definitive source on Dune Lore imo
@@tonysan4762 You beat me to it. Quinn’s Ideas and Comicbookgirl19 a close 2nd…
The sardaukar lost because the fremen lived on a much harsher planet and their population was trained to military discipline. In the book, fremen lost 1 for every 50 sardaukar. That left thufir howat shocked when he found out. It wasn't that they got soft. They just ran into a people who were much better than them.
Harsh environment doesn't produce strong soldiers and definitely doesn't produce Military discipline
The Fremen were bragging
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl It does if you train them in it.
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl lmao yes it does harsh lived tribals have almost always beaten "civilized soldiers"
@@mondaysinsanity8193 the reason for these tribes living in marginal land in the first place is because these 'weak' civilized people pushed them there. No one wants to live in the desert or the steep.
According to the book, Selusa Secundus was the original seat of government for the Corrino empire. A rogue house nuked it and the seat of government was moved to Kaitan. The emporer turned into a prison planet where they could recruit and train those prisoners that found a way to survive into fanatical warriors for the Emporer. Hardened by the conditions of the nuked planet they became the most formidible warriors in the universe...for a time.
Correct. Most of this video is NOT Dune canon. Salusa as you said was the seat of power, a lovely plant until nuked. This video is rubbish
Exactly. As a Dune nerd when I watched the movie I was like:"This is how it happened in the book" or the opposite. That prisoners turned Sardaukar theme wasn't at all explored in the movie, while in the book, at least as I understood it, both the Harkonnens and Atreides figured out that Arrakis could be the new Salusa Secundus and that the Fremen could be the new Sardaukar, because of their tough life and fanatical warshipping.
You’re correct. Have no idea what this video is about. Video is completly off
I've never read that in Frank Herberts books. Ever!
@@user-nz6dx2fj6h You're right, this discussion is based on the Prelude to Dune books, written by Brian Herbert and based off Frank Herbert's notes that he used to keep the storylines straight. That being said, this video is off by quite a bit imho.
I think you are missing the main reason most military forces in the Dune universe became sword oriented. It was less about the protection the personal shield offered or sudden lack of effectiveness for lasguns. The change was wholly due to the reaction of a lasgun when interacting with a personal shield. Accidentally or intentionally shooting some one using a shield was instant death for both your own and enemy soldiers as the reaction was similar to setting off a small nuke. Imagine the situation where you in close quarters battle hit a shield with a lasgun and all of a sudden everything within a kilometer is superheated dust that smells faintly off fuck-up.
They abolished Nuclear war in a convention between the Great Houses and therefore had to fight using other methods such as shields and swords/knives. Lazguns were not abolished but were rarely used because of the lazgun/shield interactions!
So the Atreides where sitting ducks with all their nuclear shields. Just as much as a random group of Sardukar
@@2adamast Think of the early book Atreides as chivalric knights who are prepared for war, but don't know the enemy does not follow the chivalric code. Then once Paul gain power with the fremen it is his turn to go all Henry V and bring low class archers to a knight fight.
@@rustknuckleirongut8107 It was about the small nuke effect of the shields. With that it's easy to destroy a packed army group with one well placed shot.
At Azincourt the French had also "low class" archers. French nobility was paid by the year for at most one month of military service to their faction. Already in 700 that was considered a questionable response to external threads.
@@2adamast All I meant was that the Atreides prepared for an enemy who fought like them and paid the price when the enemy surprised them. Don't bring a Knight to a longbow fight. Also much like the English, the French nobility expected ransoms to pay out big like it did for the English in earlier battles in the 100 years war. No one saw Henry V`s strategic mass execution of prisoners when he thought his rear was threatened coming. It was the literal death of chivalry that day.
I can’t wait for the 2nd part of this movie and this time I’m definitely making sure to watch in imax
The Sardaukar - the history, rise and fall - remind me of the Ottoman's Empire Janissary soldiers.
Or the Mamluks
Loved this deep dive into the Sardaukar! The extra media apart from the movie is amazing and really complements the storytelling. Would absolutely appreciate one for the Fremen.
Hamburger, cheese burger, hamburger cheese.
~ Sardaukar
😂
I would love to see you cover the "Children of Dune" series and especially James McAvoys Leto. Been years since I saw it.
Also an video on the Fremen would be awesome.
Check out Quinn's Ideas on RUclips if you want Dune Lore.
Omg, yes please! I am loving your Dune episodes. The Series is an amazing work.
awesome more new content. thanks for all the work you are putting in 👍
Glad you enjoy it!
Yes. A video covering the Fremen. Please and thank you.
The chanting reminds me of ancient Bezerkers. Excellent video! Thank you! Yes to Fremen video!
Fremen, the Fedaykin, Fish Speakers, would be great to see you cover more. Great as always!
Absolutely master piece part 1 cant wait for part two!!! This movie was awesome and i never knew about the story lines or anything
Excellent video! Thank you and please continue to add more, a video on the Fremen would be most intriguing.
Mongolian like language, Aztec like religion, Spartan like Culture, Berserker like warfare, Varangian like loyalty.
What????
@@user-nz6dx2fj6hread history
Dont forget big flappy dongs too
"Take men rejected by all, place them in unbearable living conditions, let the weak die. Take the survivors and persuade them that they are a chosen group, superior beings called to a great destiny. Give them a religion to control them, a leader to worship. Offer them better living conditions and the certainty that they are invincible and you will have formidable soldiers."
This is the credo applied by the Corino house to create the Sardaukar.
Wrong. There was no religion added to their training. Where did you get that from?
@@user-nz6dx2fj6h The original text is vague on this subject, but the Sardaukar's reverence for the emperor is close to religious, it is suggested several times.
@@huguesroland6308 I think you’ll find that’s called fanaticism, not religion!
@@huguesroland6308 So vague you thought you’d put your own ideas onto it?
@@user-nz6dx2fj6h It's the same thing. Two horses of the same cart.
Thanks for the solid info, as usual ✊
No problem 👍
good stuff as always
Cool. I like when you explore these topics. Keep going strong.
They are a lot like the Spartans in almost every way
Not really. The Spartans were landowning military aristocrats while the Sardaukar are privileged and professional slave soldiers. I'd compare them more to the Mamluks or the Janissaries.
Love your content Niyat. You make me interested in things I normally wouldn't bother with because you care about what you make 🐢🐢🐢
Awesome content!!! 👏👏👏 Thabks 😁👍
Yes, please cover the Fremen! Well done!
Yesssssss another dune video 😄!
More dune content?
Heck yes!!!
This was one of my favorite scenes from Dune. Loved the ritual chant
Hell yeah please do a video on the fremen!
Great video, I loved that you implemented the comics also, gave me some new outlooks on style and weps they had that other channels didn't keep it up! thank you!
Perfect dune video and analysis.
Thanks Damian!
@@filmcomicsexplained don’t mention it !
great presentation
Interesting video, subscribed! 👍
More dune I love this... read all the books and was addicted to the games on pc growing up so the love its finally getting now I couldn't be more happy about!
Great vid and well put together mate ✌
They have served the dark will of Padishah Emperors for over 8000 years. Eyes, as dark as night. Teeth, filed to fang. Soulless. The personal army to Emperor Shaddam IV Himself, the Imperial Warrior Elite. The deadliest fighting force in the Known Universe... the Sardaukar!!!
300
Heathen sardaukar 😆
You are talking about the Immortals used by Darius, the Persian King. Herbert never described the Sardaukar as that, more like Nazi-looking men really. Where did you get that?
Until the Fremen!
Awesome content dude :)
Love the video!
Imagine this Sardaukar Imperial Military vs. the Clone Troopers from the Star Wars Universe, a true battle of the Space Operas!
basically sardukar are melee fighters with shields ., so shooting them wont make the cut - if your a clone trooper ., you blaster is more useful as a club than a gun 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@anticlickbait Storm Troopers
Both sides would get wiped out in the first volley of blaster shots since the shields would go nuclear and kill everyone.
@@Operator2l4160 well they deal with the invincible to blaster fire enemies habitually. They'll just use the EMP grenades every clone has and keep shooting.
DUNE should have been made in series format. They could have made 10 epic episodes for every house in DUNE..
Love this channel
Love your videos.
I loved that praying scene, so dark, evil in a way.
I will never stop loving Hans Zimmer's scores. They're SO good 😭🤤
great insight! fremen next !? :)
Yes, please do the Fremen next
Can't wait for part 2 :)
The scene where they silently drop down was so cool in the film!
Can’t wait for part 2 of the movie so hyped
I didnt know a thimble full of that!! Excellent yt Liked Subscribed saved to Favs
Denis Villeneuve"s Sardaukar, from the first moments of the scene on Salusa Secundus, perfectly presented them as the terror troops feared by all, and it was easy to understand in your gut why, with no further explanations needed. Contrast that with David Lynch's, the most feared pastry chefs in the known universe.
Edit to acknowledge that I confused the David Lynch production with the Dune 2000 mini-series. The Sardaukar/pastry chefs I was thinking of were in the mini-series.
I fear the Swedish Chef even more with the war cry of "Bork Bork Bork"
Dune content!
Hell yeah!
the best explanation of the culture i have ever seen well done
These guys have cool designs but got absolutely sunned by the Fremen warriors.
They cannot compete against the fremen secret technique throw your infant baby on the enemy to distract them
This was great loved the Dune movie please more of its lore.
Watch Quinn’s ideas if you want to get deep into the lore
Looking forward to more
Yes! More dune stuff pleaaaaase..
Yes please do the fremen
We owe A LOT to Frank Herbert
Its a pleasure too. Thank you!
Amazing throat singing at the beginning.
I'm really looking forward to part 2 , hope it still will be made.
They're filming right now:)
@@keanenfulton4696 they've completed filming.
@@Vilakazi Yep! Cant wait to see what they've been up to
With a new dune game comeing out im definitely glad i wached this
great video. Do the Freman please.
Denis, using the throat singing as a backdrop to the human sacrifice and preparation for war, was ingenious.
They’re essentially Space Janissaries who are loyal only to their Sultan/emperor
Fun fact, these chaps were the influence for the Rogue Trader era Adeptus Astartes.
Yes please do a video on the Fremen.
Thanks for the video!! See you later!! Stay safe.
YAY MORE DUNE CONTENT!
DUNE PART 2, November 17, 2023.
Lets go!
Please do one on the fremen
Hope we get too see more of the sardaukar in part 2
Fire vid
I love Dune as much, if not more than, Star Wars. Thanks for the lore dump! What about the Swordmasters of Ginaz after your Freman vid? Or the many lives of Duncan?
SOunds great!
The history of the Sardaukar presented here totally ignores the established history of the Butlerian Jihad, the nuking of Salusa Secundus and the establishment of the Imperium.
BH's stuff isn't canon, just cringe fanfic.
Probably, or rather obviously, because this video is based on the 2021(?) Movie.
@@RTYB but it is cannon……
@@673AWSFNot to Hardcore Dune fans.
@@jamesmunn576 I’m a hardcore Dune fan. Been reading them since the 90s. I didn’t like the second run of books, theyre not written good……. but I liked the ideas brought fourth in them. So….. Canon.
Yes, plese cover the Fremen.
Yassss!! Cover the fremen!!
So did gurney negotiate his ‘freedom’ with the sardaukar rather than the Harkonnens? Missed that bit in part 2
It's kind of a cool little tidbit to watch duncan fight the guys and in some of the scenes the "killmove" is actually him stopping his blade short/mid-air so the other guys can walk into it and kill themselves.
Interesting..... especially the sound they produce as their communicativelanguage
Still bingeing 🤩
These guys were the apparent inspiration for the Adaptus Astarties from WH40K
According to the appendix in the original "Dune" novel, the Sardaukar were equal to a tenth level Ginaz adept - not quite a Ginaz swordmaster, but still impressive, and well above the levels of every other force. That is, until the Atreides started to train a highly skilled, potent, and loyal force. They did this using techniques of the Ginaz, their own personal charisma, and borrowing whatever techniques were effective. The Sardukaur were weakened by overconfidence and excesses of a "warrior mystique" - they started to believe their own press clippings. A Bashar of the Sardukaur (roughly equivalent to a modern captain) lived an extravagant life, equal to a very rich man, while generals lived in luxury comparable to that of a ruling family of a Major House.
Baron Harkonnen mentioned to Count Fenring he thought about using Dune as a prison planet to create a new, more brutal force. Count Fenring duly reported this to Shaddam, and they turned against the Harkonnen. Pitre DeVries was horribly alarmed when he heard about that conversation. Duncan Idaho, however, believed the Fremen were already just about as good as the Sardukaur, and it wouldn't take much to train them up. The popularity of Leto among the Lansraad and the military power of the House made them Shaddam's target - before they could build a force equal to his own fifty legions of Sardukaur and took the throne.
My reading of the Dune series was that Bashar was more like that of a 5 star general / Field marshal. See Miles Teg references.
I doubt it. The real issue was that the Sardaukar had never known defeat, and that made them vulnerable. Too arrogant.
I love your content can you please do a video on Ice Pirates?
The Atreides forces depicted in the movies gave me the vibe that they can fight the Sardukar on equal terms and smoke the Fremen.
It's so fascinating seeing a future where humanity isn't relying on technology as much as they are with religion and perfecting the human mind.
They had been almost hopelessly dependant upon AI until it was discovered that those AI had begun manipulating mankind for their own goals, slowly supplanting us as the dominant species. The Butlerian Jihad followed and for 10.000 years, the Empire of house Corrino enforced the dogma that no machine may replace a human. That lead to fun creations like the Mentats to handle the calculations of a galaxy spanning bureaucracy and even the Ornithopters used biological components sometimes, having large insects implanted into the wing assembly as larvae and the imago stage would then be controlled via electric currents to move the wings.
This is simply incredible. What concerns the mind is just as important as our craftiness
“Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind.” Once that became accepted in human civilization something else would HAVE to replace AI.
I wish there could be more videos on Dune lore...
I watched the reissue in the cinemas yesterday, farkin Epic 🙌
Excellent detail. Thank you!
The Fremen remind me of the Aiel of the wheel of time series. Every single one of them trained from birth to be a survival/killing expert. Basically you never want to fuck with them no matter how powerful you imagine you are. Fighting them is like fighting the desert.
Fremen came before the Aiel, so if anything, Robert Jordan was likely inspired by Dune to make his Aiel.
I never read the books so the movie is all I know and there are so many things I want to know more about, including the Fremen.
Keep dune coming
so happy seeing Finnstark's artwork here!!!
*silently drops down behind you
"Nothing personal kid"