So he should just sit there as someone slanders him in a campaign speech during a town meeting? I don't even know where this is but what the first guy did is ridiculous. They all should have gotten up and walked out while he was giving that speech.
Oh how true.......But at lest his papers in front of him where arranged so neatly over and, over and, and over...... It sure sounded as though the people at that meeting were in support of the bully stepping down by the sound of the applause in the room
Amazing how this guy Salafia expects everyone to stay quiet and listen to him yet throws a hissy fit when another council member reads a statement regarding the concerns of one thousand of his constituents that signed the petition.
You know this is a broken board. One leaves, one tells everyone to be quiet and have no say, one blames another, one says nothing (the lady), and one wants to move on from allegations. No one is on the same page.
He’s reading from a typed response. He was prepared for this. He knew how this meeting was going to go. And he still interrupted and behaved like a child?
Salifina sure has quite the speech lined out for Landry's "lies" It's almost like he know EXACTLY what he was going to say and what the accusations would be. Hmmm.
Andover is the home to one of the premier boarding schools in the world, I believe several presidents went to school there. Definitely not podunk. These people are acting childish though, seems like something corrupt going on.
Corruption is corruption Call it what it is Their thieves and liars just like the current administration in the White House And of course they get away with it just like well you know who Don’t play stupid or take up for evil men and women It’s disgusting and pathetic period
Really Ryan? It sounded to me like he was the one making the most sense when saying that the citizens deserve better which they do and how this environment of elected officials behaving like juvenile delinquents is not the right kind of environment to be in.
@@xyPERSON Really Ian? A board member who refuses to take a position but chides the board all the same for trying to address a conflict which has ground their progress to a halt. That is "making the most sense"? Vispoli was doing nothing but trying to stop progress and his delivery was pathetic.
As someone who has served my community as Township Supervisor twice and as Chairman of the Planning Commission and Vice Chairman of the Zoning Board of Appeals I can tell you this is not how to run a meeting. On the other hand as a comedy clip this thing is pure gold. This thing is local politics at it's worse. The good news is that the citizens there have the power to fix it. The problem is most people don't care enough to do something about it.
Notice that dude starts really losing it when the other guy says he illegally took campaign donations and kept them instead of spending them on a campaign; that’s known as fraud. He’s also accused of misappropriating the townships funding, with it being alleged he was lying or forging false expenses and either making them up or buying unneeded things and returning them and keeping the return. He allows people’s complaints to be heard but once fraud is brought up he tried real hard to shut this whole thing down.
our .local mayor was up in arms when someone questioned him. he was indicted and recently found guilty in federal court for extortion, money laundering, income tax evasion and accepting bribes. now awaiting the sentencing. so much for the people wanting to help the citizens.
LAVIN20 FINALLY! Someone who gets it! These "public servants" spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to get elected for a job that pays 30 to 50 grand a year. The president of the country makes something around 400 grand a year and yet HUNDREDS of millions of dollars are spent in elections. ARE we all so naive to actually believe that these guys have the interests of the public at heart? If so, I've got a bridge to sell......Our whole system needs to be overhauled. The guy bringing the charges is probably butt hurt because he wasn't invited to the trough enough times. I don't trust any one of them.
First problem and likely the main one is they are finctioning under color of law a nd not actual law that flag represents control and not freedom The US flag with out the fringe and presidential eagle represents freedom not that one. They are not functioning as a lawful asembly but a private board meeting
A good little primer on the difficulties of self-government. Lesson #1: why so few citizens volunteer for public service as representatives of the people. It's a thankless job. Why do it? The prestige? The perception of power? We the People are predisposed to distrust leadership. Yet we must elect someone. And then we prove that democracy can be a dangerous weapon. We elect a Trump. At the local level, we elect miserable sods like these fellas. The guy who walked out looked like his blood pressure was 220/150, so it's a probably a good thing he bailed. Yet that's not how you govern. You don't run away when the pressure is on. Neither do you stir up controversy merely for the pleasure of being perceived as doing something other than sitting on your ass.
He is willing to shut the person down that is speaking out against him but when someone is acting a bystander and calm down the “Restless Natives” he is willing to let him go in and finish his statement. This leads me to believe that he is guilty of all the accusations.
better watch,,Salafia might be a member of the mafia!! hahahaha poor kawalski looks bored out of his skull, probably would prefer going through his grandfathers wrestling memorabilia at home.
How about ALL campaign money received on a federal, state, city and town level be received by a federal agency so that the federal agency could make sure that all campaign money is not pocketed by any politicians (including federal senators) to keep track of WHO donates campaign money and how that affects what bills the politicians vote for to eliminate conflict of interests.
When Salafia started screaming and saying your out of order and using his little wooden gavel and calling him a liar it only meant one thing. He was guilty of everything Mr. Landry said. Love watching guilty people squirm !!!!
Years ago, I was a Director of a neighborhood association (NOT an HOA). I encountered disagreements between board members but they behaved as mature adults. As an Andover outsider (I don't even know where Andover is located), this sounds more like a fight between 8th grade boys. "No, I didn't!" "Yes, you did!" "No, I didn't!" "Yes, you did!!" "You're a liar!" "No, I'm not!" "You're a dopey head!" "No, I'm not! YOU'RE a dopey head!" etc., etc. Maybe both of them should be removed. Good luck!!
That’s true, but the thing I do like about small government, is I might run into the person I elected at the grocery store. Where I can either berate or congratulate in person.
Why does a position of authority so often entice the very least capable people? This is not a commentary about this Board. This is a general observation across a wide spectrum of private and public sector administration.
Oh, they're capable alright. But there is a difference between political capabilities and administrative skill. In short, they know how to play the game. Administration is too political for the competent administrators, as crazy as that sounds.
Don't they follow Robert's Rules? Per 43:29 the chair is not supposed to participate in debate unless he officially relinquishes his authority, and maintaining order (i.e. no interruptions, not addressing people directly) is the entire justification for parliamentary procedure. If the Chairman felt he was being defamed he should've let Mr Landry speak & then sued him for damages.
I'm just bouncing around my recommended page for videos tonight, I'm watching this right after watching The Three Stooges. And they're practically indistinguishable from one another.
The Chair should have stepped down, while any question of his conduct might be under question. The Deputy should step in. Every accusation Must be investigated. But. Calling for temp. suspension cannot be used mischievously.
Who else is binging crazy meetings 😂
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I love meeting meltdowns!
You mean watching 👀 what the hell is binging tho 😂
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Salafia just proved by his outburst and interruptions that he is not fit for office.
I agree, Sloppy sure did!!
So he should just sit there as someone slanders him in a campaign speech during a town meeting? I don't even know where this is but what the first guy did is ridiculous. They all should have gotten up and walked out while he was giving that speech.
He could flourish in the trump administration
That kawalski guy that left was a coward!
I concur shirking responsibilities in the face of adversity and try to claim a moral High Ground on the way out patheticism
Idk what I’m even watching and I guarantee he’s a coward. Says his dumb little comment and runs away . I’m gonna guess he grew up sheltered
Beta male
Or involved too deep
I think we’re leaving he gave up his vote! Pussy cat!
The gaveling and interruptions are unacceptable for a chairperson. He should resign.
He should step down while investigated, not takeover the meeting to make a statement.
@No One I demand you speak the way I want you to.
Sounds a lot like Jerry Nadler
As soon as Kowalski heard "ethics" he got the hell out of there!
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I literally skipped forward 10 seconds and he was already tf up out of there 😂
😂🤣
Can't handle the truth, shameful,!
Kowalski should be removed from his seat for leaving. That guy's a joke and a sham. Don't know anything about the rest.
Agree
For leaving the childish display that was occuring?
Vispoli, a masterclass in saying absolutely nothing for a long time.
Ha ha...exactly. And then after his long winded drivel, he confirms it by saying: “I didn’t take a position at all”
Lol at least we could pay attention to everything he said without interruption from that crazy nut
Oh how true.......But at lest his papers in front of him where arranged so neatly over and, over and, and over...... It sure sounded as though the people at that meeting were in support of the bully stepping down by the sound of the applause in the room
The epitome of a casper milquetoast, i.e. Pussy.
Word salad gobbledygook must be a Democrat
Thank you Mr. Vispoli for remaining neutral and adding literally nothing to the situation.
Haha! Literally adding nothing.
Maybe he drinks too much watered down red Kool Aid.
@@mumpygumboo8554 I thought it was Pedialite!
Thais shows that he's actually a skilled politician. When things get heated, standing aside and speaking from the fence can be the smartest move.
And the woman made sure to toss in all the expected bullet statements.
Amazing how this guy Salafia expects everyone to stay quiet and listen to him yet throws a hissy fit when another council member reads a statement regarding the concerns of one thousand of his constituents that signed the petition.
Is he a Democrat or Republican?
@Truth Teller I thought he was.
One thing's for sure, Mr. Kowalski wishes he were home watching The Simpsons.
Anything would be better than what he was sitting between...don’t blame him
@@nancykelley7735 I actually said out loud "get the fuck out of there" and then he did.
@@noone-ft9lw ???
@@noone-ft9lw 😂😂
There is always a Kowalski in a group.
Mr. Landry has balls for speaking the truth.
Strangely enough. The guy speaking the truth would be a good chairman.
He has balls of vibranium, while some of the rest of them have balls of paper mache
Took absolutely no balls to do what he did. It's actually quite cowardly.
@@JeffSmith-eq3kc: You wouldn't know balls if they were teabagged on your chin.
Thank you kindly...............
He’s reading a prepared response so he knew this was coming.
Weird. Point by point.
Your point being?
Exactly...
Head of board Layfayette co Wis just like this guy. What pc work
Like he saw the petition that over a thousand signed?
The guy who left is as dirty as Sal and was afraid he’d get called out too.
Or he just didn't want to take part in the 3rd grade behavior going on.
Not a doubt in my mind either. No joke.
“I’ll happily resign.”
One random in the crowd says don’t do it.
“Okay I won’t do it.”
He reeks of arrogance.
You know this is a broken board. One leaves, one tells everyone to be quiet and have no say, one blames another, one says nothing (the lady), and one wants to move on from allegations. No one is on the same page.
Wait, is this the next season of Carpentersville?! :D
Sarto still looking for that 2nd
@@richk1306 Literally laughed out loud!!
#SecondForSarto
ya it's a reboot
Binder gate is real.
He’s reading from a typed response. He was prepared for this. He knew how this meeting was going to go. And he still interrupted and behaved like a child?
This whole thing was a play
The childish behavior was pretty clearly the first guy. Pretty embarrassing behavior.
Salifina sure has quite the speech lined out for Landry's "lies" It's almost like he know EXACTLY what he was going to say and what the accusations would be. Hmmm.
To move on from allegations are in itself is a BIG problem and should NEVER be ignored.
Bravo Mr Landry. The chairman is obviously a liar because instead of defending himself he just called names which is the sign of a liar!
That ain't the way I heared it.
Amazing how crazy they act when the tables are turned…Rats and this brave man had the balls to stand up! Thank you Sir!
Corruption runs rampant even in small podunk cities
It’s actually a town, not a city. And I wouldn’t exactly call it “podunk”. It’s one of the wealthier towns in the region.
Especially small podunk cities!
Andover is the home to one of the premier boarding schools in the world, I believe several presidents went to school there. Definitely not podunk. These people are acting childish though, seems like something corrupt going on.
Corruption is corruption
Call it what it is
Their thieves and liars just like the current administration in the White House
And of course they get away with it just like well you know who
Don’t play stupid or take up for evil men and women
It’s disgusting and pathetic period
I make a motion that we officially changed the name
of the Town from Andover to Bendover MA.
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Or Carpentersville
I second!
Masshole discourse is never polite
Kowalski must’ve been an accomplice
It's funny how when someone starts spilling the truth, the Chairman becomes angry and threatening.
Kick his ass out!!!
Reminds me of our home owners association meetings. Corruption starts early in their career.
Mr vispoli expert on how to say nothing for 4 mins
Really Ryan? It sounded to me like he was the one making the most sense when saying that the citizens deserve better which they do and how this environment of elected officials behaving like juvenile delinquents is not the right kind of environment to be in.
@@xyPERSON Really Ian? A board member who refuses to take a position but chides the board all the same for trying to address a conflict which has ground their progress to a halt. That is "making the most sense"? Vispoli was doing nothing but trying to stop progress and his delivery was pathetic.
That is one of the basic proficiencies required for success in politics.
A mediator, born to keep all sides tougher, and never succeeding
If none of it is true then why did the board chair become so aggressive?
Because when someone accuses you of something thats not true in a public settings any innocent man would be pissed
The anwer to your question is within your question: The board chair became so aggressive because none of it was true. [at least that's what he said]
Yeah he lookds guilty as hell!!
because it wasn't true? falsely accused?
@@ChristopherSalisburySalz just curious, what "looks guilty as hell" in his words or actions?
As someone who has served my community as Township Supervisor twice and as Chairman of the Planning Commission and Vice Chairman of the Zoning Board of Appeals I can tell you this is not how to run a meeting. On the other hand as a comedy clip this thing is pure gold. This thing is local politics at it's worse. The good news is that the citizens there have the power to fix it. The problem is most people don't care enough to do something about it.
Kowalski looks like a coward. Must of been coddled as a child and this made him uncomfortable. Vote em all out.
No matter who's right, this is not a flattering glimpse of politics in Andover.
I love these petty bureaucracies. They are so full of hot-air merchants who love the sound of their own voices.
Notice that dude starts really losing it when the other guy says he illegally took campaign donations and kept them instead of spending them on a campaign; that’s known as fraud. He’s also accused of misappropriating the townships funding, with it being alleged he was lying or forging false expenses and either making them up or buying unneeded things and returning them and keeping the return. He allows people’s complaints to be heard but once fraud is brought up he tried real hard to shut this whole thing down.
Wrong.
@@andrewvelonis5940 prove it’s wrong
@@Dontyouwish101 random RUclips idiots never come with facts. It’s prolly a bot to be honest lol.
our .local mayor was up in arms when someone questioned him. he was indicted and recently found guilty in federal court for extortion, money laundering, income tax evasion and accepting bribes. now awaiting the sentencing. so much for the people wanting to help the citizens.
Rather than making the country/state/town better, politics seems to be 70% just a bunch of people fighting one another to be 'top dog.'
Welcome to Democracy.
@@42ouncesofPAIN welcome to life.
This looks like the trial of Ceaucescu. Kowalski appears to have dirty hands also.
Never fails. Chairman of any board or HOA attracts the doucebags of society. This video proves my case.
Is it just me or does it look like Mr. Vispoli has a rather large baby bottle with juice right next to him?
Hey no need to bash a man who’s well hydrated!
Think about this. These people are usually paid very little yet the people run for office. What is the their motivation, corruption, kickbacks etc.
Ya'll miss my point. These people aren't paid enough to put up with thus shit so they all have ulterior motives
brides business
Don't they get Health Care?
@@seantompkins6129 yes. Still most make 30 to 50 k which tells you they do it for something el$e
LAVIN20
FINALLY! Someone who gets it! These "public servants" spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to get elected for a job that pays 30 to 50 grand a year. The president of the country makes something around 400 grand a year and yet HUNDREDS of millions of dollars are spent in elections. ARE we all so naive to actually believe that these guys have the interests of the public at heart? If so, I've got a bridge to sell......Our whole system needs to be overhauled. The guy bringing the charges is probably butt hurt because he wasn't invited to the trough enough times. I don't trust any one of them.
The chairman's actions need to be addressed with him interupting the person talking
That guy has totally forgot who he works for. He should not be speaking to the public like that. Very rude and unprofessional.
How dare you hold him accountable lol
“I will happily resign my seat if it made the people happy”
*crowd erupts in cheers*
One person: “Don’t do it!”
“Fine I won’t do it”
His wife or girlfriend?
If the allegations turn out to be proven true then you also have them for perjury as well!
I don't live here and I don't know who is right or wrong but I love this show
@@StephenKershaw1 all politicians lie, moron.
@@StephenKershaw1 Pretty sure none of this was in NH it was MA and Salafia chose to not run again in 2019. I don't think he was removed.
Dog and pony show, or a 3 ring circus...take your pick!
The old bald guy drinking the red kool-aid cracks me up.
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Jeff Harris he looks like Woody Allen lol lol
Dont drink the kool aid!
Its nit kool aid, its cherry vodka
It seems this chairman is far more concerned with his reputation than he is with the issues of the town and it's taxpaying citizens.
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That flag there makes it seem split screen.
Holy shit... it really does. I thought something looked odd.
Was thinking the same thing.
First problem and likely the main one is they are finctioning under color of law a nd not actual law that flag represents control and not freedom The US flag with out the fringe and presidential eagle represents freedom not that one. They are not functioning as a lawful asembly but a private board meeting
I like how Salafia had typed, prepared rebuttals for the allegations Landry brought forth mere minutes before.
Are you saying he had previous knowledge of the allegations that were to brought forward at this meeting ?
@@markdigiacinto2457 yes
@@paulden3158 crazy right?.......... whowouldathunk haha
Could it be due to the fact that the statement and intended vote were on the board's calendar and were therefore not a surprise?
@Truth Teller No, why?
Pretty typical small town new england politics.
Mr. Urbelis has my vote! 😝 ( he of the strong & silent type.)
4:04 "I'm going on a campaign to prove your lies!" lol job done.
A good little primer on the difficulties of self-government. Lesson #1: why so few citizens volunteer for public service as representatives of the people. It's a thankless job. Why do it? The prestige? The perception of power? We the People are predisposed to distrust leadership. Yet we must elect someone. And then we prove that democracy can be a dangerous weapon. We elect a Trump. At the local level, we elect miserable sods like these fellas. The guy who walked out looked like his blood pressure was 220/150, so it's a probably a good thing he bailed. Yet that's not how you govern. You don't run away when the pressure is on. Neither do you stir up controversy merely for the pleasure of being perceived as doing something other than sitting on your ass.
Hire a group of homeless people next time.
He who loses his cool first....loses the argument regardless
why do I keep hearing "talapia"?
Because there's clearly something fishy going on...
There is something fishy.
wasn't Kowalski a professional wrestler at one point?
and they say mexico and other countries are corrupt
ameirca is just as corrupt in every little town, city and state and im sick of it
No its not you fucking airhead.
He is willing to shut the person down that is speaking out against him but when someone is acting a bystander and calm down the “Restless Natives” he is willing to let him go in and finish his statement. This leads me to believe that he is guilty of all the accusations.
I love this guy. He's got guts! He knows that Landry is right.
Landry, you've got guts. That's what we need now in Andover, keep up the good work.
Real DJ Restless Actually I know Paul Salafia and Landry made up lies about him.
"Shut up! You are saying mean things about me! You can't do that! I'm important, damnit!"
When the lights turn on, the roaches scatter.
This shit is why I quit serving on our local school board ( where I was paid $ZERO. I was attacted.
Attacted and you were on the school board ?? 🤣🤣🤣
I was at this meeting and the proposal for funding a midget strip club was not addressed. I'm am livid.
You were short changed............
So...you enjoy a little nakedness huh?
@@MrMistrEnigma Actually it's amusing nothing sexual.
@@remorselesscuckslayerii8276 so was my comment...read it again.
lol 😂
Elected official to the public: “I don’t care who you are, be quiet”
Here we are folks, full circle. It’s the hunger games
The correct response to that is "Come over here and make me."
Excellent Mr. Landry!!
better watch,,Salafia might be a member of the mafia!! hahahaha poor kawalski looks bored out of his skull, probably would prefer going through his grandfathers wrestling memorabilia at home.
How about ALL campaign money received on a federal, state, city and town level be received by a federal agency so that the federal agency could make sure that all campaign money is not pocketed by any politicians (including federal senators) to keep track of WHO donates campaign money and how that affects what bills the politicians vote for to eliminate conflict of interests.
This video makes me appreciate my town. And I hate my town.
U live in Minneapolis, too?
Everybody on that board looks like they're trying to hold in a fart.
Bill Sarto could handle these jokers.
Bill Sarto 😂
Sarto still looking for that 2nd
Saturday night! At the Springfield Colosseum! Sarto vs. Salafia in a steel-cage deathmatch!
It's clear who is at fault. He is acting like a spoiled child.
The only way to get passed it is to get rid of the corruption
When Salafia started screaming and saying your out of order and using his little wooden gavel and calling him a liar it only meant one thing. He was guilty of everything Mr. Landry said. Love watching guilty people squirm !!!!
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They don't like having their corruption brought into the light, do they?
Sounds like this board is disfunctional and incapable of making decision beneficial towards it's community.
Smoke cigarettes....
" I didn't do nuthin".
I din do nuffen
Vispoli said it four times so cheers for saying it again Ms Gregory
The sweaty lil guy should say what he wants to say, and quit messing with the papers in front of him🤡
SOUNDS LIKE ' SOMEONE ' IS PISSED OFF THAT HE GOT CAUGHT WITH HIS ASS OUT!!
Is this how you feel important...sit on a council? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Selectmen Salami at it again
So this happened in Massachusetts and I never heard anything on the news about this
THAT IS WHAT WE EXPECT, IF YOUR DIRTY, THEN THE HOLE WORLD SHOULD BE ABLE TO HEAR IT!!!!!
Years ago, I was a Director of a neighborhood association (NOT an HOA). I encountered disagreements between board members but they behaved as mature adults. As an Andover outsider (I don't even know where Andover is located), this sounds more like a fight between 8th grade boys. "No, I didn't!" "Yes, you did!" "No, I didn't!" "Yes, you did!!" "You're a liar!" "No, I'm not!" "You're a dopey head!" "No, I'm not! YOU'RE a dopey head!" etc., etc. Maybe both of them should be removed. Good luck!!
Mary Clark Andover is in northeast Massachusetts, in a region called the Merrimack Valley. (The Merrimack River flows through the area).
I don’t like big government, but small government doesn’t look promising either.
That’s true, but the thing I do like about small government, is I might run into the person I elected at the grocery store. Where I can either berate or congratulate in person.
Landry was rocking it OLD SCHOOL!
Why did Kowalski leave? No backbone?
Barrier Boy Lol!
Guilt?
Does Kowalski drive a white Challenger ?
The only thing that can catch a Mopar, is another Mopar.
Leave then cry baby, then they can elect a new chair...
Get rid of the old man he is not. Trust worthy and is trying to shut up the truth
So the only ones not given time to speak are the ones who raise concerns about him
Rumor has it that Vispoli is still waiting for the board to come together.
"Nice job, Landry." LMAO
That woman would be in my bed doing my bidding. What a turn-on to hear her!
Why does a position of authority so often entice the very least capable people? This is not a commentary about this Board. This is a general observation across a wide spectrum of private and public sector administration.
Oh, they're capable alright. But there is a difference between political capabilities and administrative skill. In short, they know how to play the game. Administration is too political for the competent administrators, as crazy as that sounds.
Who knows what's true anymore
Kowalski the coward. This guy should have been driving the Italian army tanks in WW2 - 1 speed forward, 5 reverse
Except you would need balls to do that...those things were coffins..
He threw out the “fake news” 😂
Don't they follow Robert's Rules? Per 43:29 the chair is not supposed to participate in debate unless he officially relinquishes his authority, and maintaining order (i.e. no interruptions, not addressing people directly) is the entire justification for parliamentary procedure. If the Chairman felt he was being defamed he should've let Mr Landry speak & then sued him for damages.
I'm just bouncing around my recommended page for videos tonight, I'm watching this right after watching The Three Stooges. And they're practically indistinguishable from one another.
The Chair should have stepped down, while any question of his conduct might be under question. The Deputy should step in. Every accusation Must be investigated. But. Calling for temp. suspension cannot be used mischievously.