Thanks for the feedback! Well it sounds like you all really want to see me do the Gen 4 vs Gen 5 so that will be my next few videos. HAHA! JK! Thanks for watching everyone!
Kentucky Ballistics I would really like to see the difference in a long 6" or 7" Lone Wolff barrel vs a standard G20 barrel in the clay blocks. It will determine if I buy a G20 or G40 for bear. Thanks!
Its a John Browning"clone",the variations aren't that much different.I like the fact that the 10mm is fully compatable with the .40 S/W though,I thought that was really cool.
Similar penetration, the 10mm had a bit more cavitation, but the .40 S&W left more bits of metal in the clay. Either of them would make sure the other guy isn't getting back up, but the .40 S&W is cheaper and easier to find, even if the 10mm is a bit more powerful; after all, dead is dead.
A lot of people don't like it, but I'm glad people don't like .40s&w more ammo for me, where I'm from it's easier to find & like $10 cheaper than 9mm & .45acp.
I hate how people call the .40 wimpy. Is it weaker than 10mm? OF COURSE, but 10 set the bar pretty high. .40 has more power than 9(in an apples to apples test) while only loosing 1 to 2 rounds, all in the same size gun. That's a big deal. No body ever calls the .308 wimpy and it will never be as powerful as 30-06 (again, in a fair comparison) . There are plenty of reasons to pick a 40 over 10, if power were the only thing to consider, a desert eagle would be the only thing anyone would ever need to buy.
exactly. 10mm advocates hate on the 40 all the time, but without extensive practice, the excessive 10mm recoil makes accurate follow up shots more difficult, (and in self defense situations thats a big aspect to consider), while the 40 is much easier to control. and seeing how they both expand quite well in soft targets, the 40 still gets the job done, without the worry of over-penetration as well.
@@danielhet6286 I use Underwood for hunting, for about $15 I get boxes of 50 rounds of either S&B or Armscor to use at the range, and I buy Winchester white box 100 round boxes for my wife's 9mn and also my .45 ACP and my .40 S&W
I am sure that when you said slow and weak, you meant it facetiously. Calling .40 S&W Slow and weak compared to 10 mm is like calling Hulk Hogan Short and weak as compared to Andre the Giant. I personally witnessed a 400 lb black bear killed and dropped on the spot with 40 S&W in hardcast flat nose ammo at about 15 yards away from my camping buddy. He hit it right in the neck and it took a couple of steps then went right over. The boar face planted right into the pine needles and was done. If slow and weak can take out a bear, I'll trust it for my home defense. Great video as always. You always provide good educational and fun to watch material. Thanks!
@Mike Smith I would Still carry 40.......the bear WILL get dropped with a couple rounds. 10mm is NOT that much more powerful anyways, it's LITERALLY based off the 40 cartridge!!! LMAO
I carried 40 S&W in a few different issued handguns over 24 years USBP. In the earlier 7 years, I carried a duty 357 magnum revolver and 45 ACP. I liked the 40 S&W and own a few pistols and a carbine all in 40 S&W. Also a 10mm revolver but only shoot 40. The 40 is fun to shoot, if I need a more powerful handgun cartridge I'd take my Ruger Redhawk 44 magnum.
@@genejones02 the 40 has ammo available up to 200 grains pushing over a thousand feet per second. I carry a nine daily but while I'm hunting or in the woods I carry a glock 23 with 200 Buffalo bore or grizzly. Also 180 grain jacketed hollow points doing the same speeds as your 124 grain jacket at hollow points. There's a pretty big difference if you're comparing cartridges. Buffalo bore makes 140 grain jacketed hollow points pushing damn near 1400 ft per second for the 40 Smith & Wesson and extreme penetrators doing 1500 ft per second. I would agree that if you just bought standard Winchester or Remington green and white box ammo you're not getting a benefit and velocity just a heavier bullet. But if you start looking in to specialty and like Buffalo bore and Underwood the difference is substantial
I've been a ceramic artist since 1982. I've wedged my share of clay thousands of times. I like when you shoot the clay much better than watter jugs. It resembles human body much better.
BS! I've seen many bullet holes in bodies and have never seen an exit hole in a body as big as those in the clay blocks........ Vietnam Veteran, 1st Inf Div, 2nd Bn, 28th Inf, Alpha Company - m-60 machine gunner, 3/9/66 to 3/9/67 Lai Khe.
My daily carry is a Px4 Compact in .40 caliber and I love it. I think this comparison shows that you can achieve almost the same results with the .40 caliber with less recoil to manage. I carried a .45 and a 9mm in the service and I love them both but I love, love my .40 caliber especially in my Px4. I put a DPM recoil system in along with a new hammer spring and it shoots like a .22 caliber as far as recoil goes and it is very, very accurate. Great video.
10mm is a definite bear gun. You don't need a bear gun for carry, so a .40 is fine. But a .40 cannot come close to what a 10mm can do on big game with premium ammo. These numbers are Underwood in a heavy stainless Tanfoglio, 4.75" stainless bull barrel. Chronographed. This 220 grain is going 1,240 fps and down to the 155 grain at 1,530 fps. 10mm 220 gr HC Underwood. KE- 750 ft-lbs, PF- 273, KOV- 15.6 10mm 200 gr HC Underwood. KE- 753 ft-lbs, PF- 264, KOV- 14.9 10mm 180 gr Fenix Ammo. 729 ft-lbs, PF - 244, KOV - 13.9 10mm 180 gr Underwood. KE- 688 ft-lbs, PF- 236, KOV- 13.5 10mm 165 gr (#237) Underwood. KE- 810 ft-lbs, PF- 245, KOV- 14.0 10mm 155 gr Underwood. KE- 803 ft-lbs, PF- 237, KOV- 13.5
Of course you could have had a 10mm that will shoot at those low levels like a .40, and go all the way up to high power in the woods when you need. It will have more recoil then, but that is because it is pushing the same bullet much faster. So a 10mm is a 180 gr at 300 to 750 ft-lbs, and a .40 is just a cut down 10mm limited to 300 to 450 ft-lbs with 180 gr. The .40 just lacks the ability to do that pure 500-750 ft-lbs thing. 10mm carry... www.tanfoglio.it/uploads/catalog/images/piccola3jpg20.jpg
Lighter bullets traveling faster tend to have more muzzle energy due to the ballistic formula being ft/lbs energy= (Projectile Weight in grains)×(Velocity, squared) ÷ 450,240 When the velocity increases, energy exponentially increases.
Heavier is always better. Would you rather get hit by a carpenter hammer or a sledgehammer? Which one do you think is going to hurt more and do more damage?
Going Grizzly hunting in Sept 2018. I put a 150grain/ 10mm/ Xtreme Hunter/Underwood through the doors of an old POS SUV. My friends are taking a 44mags, and 500 with FMJs as back ups. All are over 250 grain rounds for there guns. After they saw my results and are now pissed they are taking heavier guns. They gave me crap about using a 10mm, now they are not. Still haven't told them about the ammo though, I'll wait till we are in the field and tell them.
It's nice to see a video where the shooter actually does a little work instead of just shooting his guns and mouth off. Great demo! I have had a Glock 29 since 2008 and it is my carry weapon.
Justin Traupel never understood why people talk shit about this round or that round...at the end of the of the shot placement is the most important factor. 9, 38, 40, 10, 357 sig, 45 will do its job in a close range self defense
Perfect demo on why the .40 (or 10mm) is packed by people who know self defense. And for MY money, the .40 does the job just fine. I don't need the 10. (Wouldn't mind HAVING one, though.)
@@ytgsp Does in my SR1911 Ruger with factory mags, Kimber mags and Wilson Kombat mags. 1911s are more picky with ammo than glocks. If you notice at the start of this video he was using 40 in the 10..
Thanks for doing the demonstration. It shows there is no significant difference in calibers it is all about the ammo. Both stopped in the 2nd block and both mushrooms looked the same to me. Both are very effective. Thanks again
There was already a loss of compaction in the clay before going to the 2nd shot...Use separate clay for each round for accurate results. A for me, my goal is not to shoot thru a railroad timber, but to have the round stop the adversary, and not over penetrate, therefore the 40S&W JHP was the most Ideal for everyday life...just my .02.... Secondary wound cavity is primary goal
For concealed carry, I'd certainly choose the 40. A lot of people carry 10mm in bear country with powerful (and expensive) loads meant solely for penetration, as that's what will stop a large animal. JHPs are great for humans, but not great for bears. I own 10mm pistols, but I won't carry them. Where I live, they'd accuse me of using a bear gun on a human. Liberals are idiots.
😀😀😀👍 The 10mm has more power, but the .40 is more than enough. Being available in a smaller frame makes it a nice choice. I have a 9mm, .40, & .45.... I like them all, but carry a .40 S&W PC Sheild.
That was pretty cool. Thanks. I like the way the clay saves the temp wound cavity. The only problem with B gel and Clay tests is they don't have any of those darned bones to get in the way.
If you plan on shooting clay then yes. Its all Depending on what your weapons purpose will be. If i was you i would stick with 9mm if you want a good range/ home defense/personal defense round- i used to own a glock 23 and the recoil was not fun. I would buy a 10mm- just to go bear hunting though. It all depends on what you want to do
Wow....for the added cost of a 10mm, I'm thinking I'll go with the 40cal. Besides that my favorite CZ SP01 is offered in a 40cal version. Full steel frame....that's my thing. No plastic.
There are many offerings in a full steel frame 1911 style pistol chambered in 10mm. That being said they are expensive and the ammo is expensive too. I prefer the. 40 for carry, but I would love to have a 10mm just to play with.
Damn, I’m seeing a lot of 40 S&W fans coming out of the woodwork. I have nothing against the caliber or how it performs personally, I just don’t like it. It may not get the recognition it deserves, but I was just reading an article about how much the 9MM and 45ACP crowds HATE 40 S&W.
Most people here are talking about pistols. I'm debating between Ruger Pistol Caliber Carbine that have 9mm and .40. Anyone have experience? my goal is home defense and small-med game( rabbit to hog). I feel like anything bigger then these won't have much rabbit meat left as you see the clay hole.
What was the point of this video? Everyone who knows anything about firearms and the different calibers already knows that the 10mm has more velocity and more actual stopping power than the 40 SW. That being said i would still carey the 40 over the 10 because the difference isnt that great and the 40 is much less expensive and much more readily available.
brent bakke, i think you answered your own question, "What was the point of this video? ...." when you said "...because the difference isnt that great ..." this was just to see what that difference actually is. for some, the answer might be there is no real difference, yet for others, maybe it's just enough to make them go with a 10mm. (not trying to be rude, just makin' an observation.)
Love my Colt Delta Elite 10mm, and when I can get it put on my permit in NY, I will have an HK USP Compact 40S&W. Thank you for the the great comparison between the short&long .40cal
10mm is one of my favorite caliber's, I just like the history of it, I have a G20 sf and I do carry it in the winter...a little large for summer carry.
@@jamesritch5245 hard to hide a gun that big under a t-shirt and shorts... I live in central California...it's hot in the summer, I have a small gun for summer
I carry .40sw 180 grain jhp and 9mm 124 grain jhp. Both will stop a human threat. 10mm is expensive and for somewhat larger game i.e. bear country. Should I need something more powerful I have my 12 gauge.. 00 buckshot or 438 grain 1700 fps hp slugs.
For factory loads there doesn’t seem to be much difference between the 10 mm and 40. I think the differences are when you start to work up hot hand loads for the G20 vs G22. I always wonder if there would be a difference using a dedicated .40 chambered pistol vs one chambered for 10mm.
10mm really starts to shine when you push it to its limits. They'll shoot anything the .40 will, just considerably faster. 10mm is great, but you really need to take up reloading if you want it to shine, or pay a fortune to buy ammo from a company that will.
I’m sure it’s been said but next time bring a thin wire and cut the first block in 1/2. Would love to see that cavity unadulterated and it wouldn’t be any harder to put back together. Otherwise keep it up! Love the idea.
I could've bought a M&P 40 or M&P 10mm for around the same price. I chose the 40. 180 gr. HST can be reloaded to 1100 fps, factory ammo is weak compared to what .40 S&W is actually capable of. Also the upper can be converted to both .357 Sig and 9mm, giving you practically 3 guns in one. I would prefer .45 ACP over them all but I'd rather carry 15+1 than 10+1 in the world we live in now.
40 was the Crackhead Killer!... I grew up outside DC, so yeah it's 40 at the minimum... Fools were brushing off 9mm like a damn JOKE!......Every day in the paper "officer fired 9 shots at the suspect, and he managed to flee".......LOL....once cops switched to 40, that kinda stopped....
@@WaxDat8800 The idea of a more powerful round is.... People don't always face you with their arms at their sides and stand still. You will take whatever shot you can get. More power means better penetration and energy transfer. Shot placement,shot placement? Reality shot,reality shot!
Where I'm from violent attackers are taking 5 or 6 shots of 9mm from police to be neutralized & most of them are not even drugged up. This started happening when police departments switched from .40s&w to 9mm.
Thanks for the feedback! Well it sounds like you all really want to see me do the Gen 4 vs Gen 5 so that will be my next few videos. HAHA! JK! Thanks for watching everyone!
Kentucky Ballistics I would really like to see the difference in a long 6" or 7" Lone Wolff barrel vs a standard G20 barrel in the clay blocks. It will determine if I buy a G20 or G40 for bear. Thanks!
Kentucky Ballistics Be careful Rayland Givins may be lurking around!!
If you don't make it as a Farmer _...start a ceramics business!_
Its a John Browning"clone",the variations aren't that much different.I like the fact that the 10mm is fully compatable with the .40 S/W though,I thought that was really cool.
at 2:40 the rooster salutes the 10mm lol. then again with the hollow point 10mm :)
I love how many say that a 40 and 45 are slow and weak but yet to this day I still haven't seen a single person outrun one
Love this comment bro. My glock 27 gen 5 is just laughing as well 😂
Only person ik who survived a 45 was Phora. And that was to the neck of him
@@maniksaq9 45 lame asf
@@SoWavvyy then stand in front of one
@@ikebiggons119 No u
Similar penetration, the 10mm had a bit more cavitation, but the .40 S&W left more bits of metal in the clay. Either of them would make sure the other guy isn't getting back up, but the .40 S&W is cheaper and easier to find, even if the 10mm is a bit more powerful; after all, dead is dead.
Is why I love my 40 I did not think it was going to do that good next to 10mil.
40 it's a great Round.
Great video thank you.
40 S&W rarely gets the respect it deserves.
As long as it's stop's a man in his tracks the 40 cal is good enough.
A lot of people don't like it, but I'm glad people don't like .40s&w more ammo for me, where I'm from it's easier to find & like $10 cheaper than 9mm & .45acp.
Because it doesn’t deserve it, most all pistol calibers can do just about the same
@@skinwalker69420 bs
Anybody else flinched when he sneezed, then realized the video was made in 2017..😭🤧
Covid has made some a bit crazy
Only if you fell for the propaganda
yeah man I did 🤣
The most interesting fact I learned in this one is that you can shoot 40s through a 10 MM pistol.
Or you can technically shoot mini shells out of a gun mean for full size shells
Just like .357 and .38, short and long.
you definitely should not shoot a .40 in a 10mm. headspace is different. look it up instead of using RUclips as a ammo guide. stay safe
@@wk3702 On the Glock 20 it will run just fine.
I watched a guy shoot 40 S&W out of his 10 mm Colt Double Eagle(1911 I think). It jammed up on every round. Maybe Glocks are different.
Nice demenstration I'll stick with my .40 S&W.
I hate how people call the .40 wimpy. Is it weaker than 10mm? OF COURSE, but 10 set the bar pretty high. .40 has more power than 9(in an apples to apples test) while only loosing 1 to 2 rounds, all in the same size gun. That's a big deal. No body ever calls the .308 wimpy and it will never be as powerful as 30-06 (again, in a fair comparison) . There are plenty of reasons to pick a 40 over 10, if power were the only thing to consider, a desert eagle would be the only thing anyone would ever need to buy.
exactly. 10mm advocates hate on the 40 all the time, but without extensive practice, the excessive 10mm recoil makes accurate follow up shots more difficult, (and in self defense situations thats a big aspect to consider), while the 40 is much easier to control. and seeing how they both expand quite well in soft targets, the 40 still gets the job done, without the worry of over-penetration as well.
Good analogy of the 40 S&W vs 10mm...
That slow and weak 40 caliber bullet blew a pretty big hole into that first piece of clay. Fuck 9mm lol.
Now I know the most effective bullet to defend against Gumby and friends.
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Yep I will stay with my 40 S&W too!
i got it in a Taurus pt100 pick it up for 350 $ at a pawn shop like new
40 s&w / $15.00 for 50 cartridges, 10 mm / $600,000,000.99 for 50.
Not true, the price of 10mm has come down about $5000 LOL
9mm 8.50$
@@danielhet6286 box of 50 10mm $14.99 and a lot more punch than 9mm
@@bdr32965 I like Underwood though:) full 10mm for like 24$ but yeah you can get magtec cheap and it runs great
@@danielhet6286 I use Underwood for hunting, for about $15 I get boxes of 50 rounds of either S&B or Armscor to use at the range, and I buy Winchester white box 100 round boxes for my wife's 9mn and also my .45 ACP and my .40 S&W
It amazes me how powerful even the .40 is. Makes me Love my G27's
I am sure that when you said slow and weak, you meant it facetiously. Calling .40 S&W Slow and weak compared to 10 mm is like calling Hulk Hogan Short and weak as compared to Andre the Giant. I personally witnessed a 400 lb black bear killed and dropped on the spot with 40 S&W in hardcast flat nose ammo at about 15 yards away from my camping buddy. He hit it right in the neck and it took a couple of steps then went right over. The boar face planted right into the pine needles and was done. If slow and weak can take out a bear, I'll trust it for my home defense. Great video as always. You always provide good educational and fun to watch material. Thanks!
@Mike Smith I would Still carry 40.......the bear WILL get dropped with a couple rounds. 10mm is NOT that much more powerful anyways, it's LITERALLY based off the 40 cartridge!!! LMAO
@@94SexyStang 10mm is damn stronger when comparing them with the same type of bullet
I've also heard of someone killing a bear with a 22 LR with a single shot through the ear canal that went into the brain.
@@94SexyStang actually the 40 is based off of the 10mm , just saying the 40 came from the 10mm's nut sack, know your facts Bud 👊🤘😎
But yes you can most definitely drop a bear with both, just with the 10mm you don't have to use as much ammo 🤷♂️😅
I guess the .40 wasnt as short and weak as you thought. 🤣🤣
I carried 40 S&W in a few different issued handguns over 24 years USBP. In the earlier 7 years, I carried a duty 357 magnum revolver and 45 ACP. I liked the 40 S&W and own a few pistols and a carbine all in 40 S&W. Also a 10mm revolver but only shoot 40. The 40 is fun to shoot, if I need a more powerful handgun cartridge I'd take my Ruger Redhawk 44 magnum.
Yes, agree sir. .. I just got a 10mm just because. I've carried 40s since I graduated the academy in1998 . I own 4 Glock .40s. And now 1 Glock 10mm.
The FMJs looked admit the same to me. The .40 made a bigger hole in the lost block tho
".40 slow and weak" said nobody whose ever been shot by one.
they said nothing their all pushing up dasiys
Love how a lot of people complain about the 40 being weak and yet they carry a 9 ????
9 is plenty potent in 147 grain or +p.
.40 isnt much stronger than that
@@genejones02 or +p+ in some cases too and it's more available for less money then 40 is
Short and Weak is just a Joke, stemming from the FBI transition from 10mm to 40 S&W. .40 is a fine cartridge. So is 9mm, So is10mm.
@@genejones02 the 40 has ammo available up to 200 grains pushing over a thousand feet per second. I carry a nine daily but while I'm hunting or in the woods I carry a glock 23 with 200 Buffalo bore or grizzly. Also 180 grain jacketed hollow points doing the same speeds as your 124 grain jacket at hollow points. There's a pretty big difference if you're comparing cartridges. Buffalo bore makes 140 grain jacketed hollow points pushing damn near 1400 ft per second for the 40 Smith & Wesson and extreme penetrators doing 1500 ft per second. I would agree that if you just bought standard Winchester or Remington green and white box ammo you're not getting a benefit and velocity just a heavier bullet. But if you start looking in to specialty and like Buffalo bore and Underwood the difference is substantial
@@shalomreardon6363
They also make it (buffalo bore) in 125 grain Jhp 1,420 fps and almost 500 foot lbs and a 155 grain jhp 1,300 fps and 582 foot lbs
I think people get too caught up in the caliber comparisons and the technical aspects. Shot is shot and dead is dead.
40 slow & weak joke got me 😭😭
I've been a ceramic artist since 1982. I've wedged my share of clay thousands of times.
I like when you shoot the clay much better than watter jugs.
It resembles human body much better.
BS! I've seen many bullet holes in bodies and have never seen an exit hole in a body as big as those in the clay blocks........ Vietnam Veteran, 1st Inf Div, 2nd Bn, 28th Inf, Alpha Company - m-60 machine gunner, 3/9/66 to 3/9/67 Lai Khe.
Looks like if a have a 40 don't need a 10. THANK YOU!
Looks like a fantastic way to make environmentally friendly bird houses
Dam, if you hate the .40 that much u must really hate the 9mm.
Moral of the story.....don’t hide behind clay in a gun fight
Yeah...".40 slow and weak" yet you couldn't manage the recoil. Look at that muzzle flip when you fired it hahahaha.
My 1992 gen 2 glock .22 has never let me down. Love it. Still my go to. Everytime. Trust me...itll do the job. Nice review.
When you sneezed I said bless you and my brother said, "I didn't sneeze"
Cool story bro
That's what I call a pro gamer move
And then everybody clapped
i like how the comment was two years ago but the replies are recent
I would say that if you get hit with a 40 or a 10mm, you're still gonna be taking the room temperature challenge.
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Well depending on whether you’re inside or outside. Either way it’s a good idea to cover your ASP!!
Holy crap that first .40 fmj blew thru all 4. .40 is no slouch I love my gen 3 g27
I have one too. Put a alpha wolf 9mm barrel and glock 17 mag with a x grip spacer for target practice. It's a little cheaper. It's a Swiss army glock
Thomas Owens I've thought about it, but wondered if the reliability is still Glock Perfection ?
I'm surprised James Jeager didn't show up and lecture us on how the .40 sucks. Cool video.
My daily carry is a Px4 Compact in .40 caliber and I love it. I think this comparison shows that you can achieve almost the same results with the .40 caliber with less recoil to manage. I carried a .45 and a 9mm in the service and I love them both but I love, love my .40 caliber especially in my Px4. I put a DPM recoil system in along with a new hammer spring and it shoots like a .22 caliber as far as recoil goes and it is very, very accurate. Great video.
10mm is a definite bear gun. You don't need a bear gun for carry, so a .40 is fine. But a .40 cannot come close to what a 10mm can do on big game with premium ammo. These numbers are Underwood in a heavy stainless Tanfoglio, 4.75" stainless bull barrel. Chronographed. This 220 grain is going 1,240 fps and down to the 155 grain at 1,530 fps.
10mm 220 gr HC Underwood. KE- 750 ft-lbs, PF- 273, KOV- 15.6
10mm 200 gr HC Underwood. KE- 753 ft-lbs, PF- 264, KOV- 14.9
10mm 180 gr Fenix Ammo. 729 ft-lbs, PF - 244, KOV - 13.9
10mm 180 gr Underwood. KE- 688 ft-lbs, PF- 236, KOV- 13.5
10mm 165 gr (#237) Underwood. KE- 810 ft-lbs, PF- 245, KOV- 14.0
10mm 155 gr Underwood. KE- 803 ft-lbs, PF- 237, KOV- 13.5
Of course you could have had a 10mm that will shoot at those low levels like a .40, and go all the way up to high power in the woods when you need. It will have more recoil then, but that is because it is pushing the same bullet much faster. So a 10mm is a 180 gr at 300 to 750 ft-lbs, and a .40 is just a cut down 10mm limited to 300 to 450 ft-lbs with 180 gr. The .40 just lacks the ability to do that pure 500-750 ft-lbs thing. 10mm carry... www.tanfoglio.it/uploads/catalog/images/piccola3jpg20.jpg
In FBI testing the .40 in 165 grain performs better than 180 grain.
Lighter bullets traveling faster tend to have more muzzle energy due to the ballistic formula being
ft/lbs energy=
(Projectile Weight in grains)×(Velocity, squared) ÷ 450,240
When the velocity increases, energy exponentially increases.
Heavier is always better. Would you rather get hit by a carpenter hammer or a sledgehammer? Which one do you think is going to hurt more and do more damage?
@@michaelsaupe1356basic physics. Mass×velocity squared=energy. I'd rather get hit by a Buick doing 10mph than a 9mm doing 1100 fps.
I like my S&W 40.
What a fantastic gun.
With your results I'll stick with the 40. Interesting demo with the clay
Good video. 40 did respectable, thats why I like it. A hot loaded 40 is like a light loaded 10mm, cheaper and easier to find.
“Make this whole a little bigger so we can see in there.” That’s what the Gynecologist said! 🤣
Would be cool to see a "9mm vs .40 vs Clay" since there is so much debate about 9mm vs .40.
Going Grizzly hunting in Sept 2018. I put a 150grain/ 10mm/ Xtreme Hunter/Underwood through the doors of an old POS SUV. My friends are taking a 44mags, and 500 with FMJs as back ups. All are over 250 grain rounds for there guns. After they saw my results and are now pissed they are taking heavier guns. They gave me crap about using a 10mm, now they are not. Still haven't told them about the ammo though, I'll wait till we are in the field and tell them.
a 22lr will go through both doors of a car don't know if that's such a good test lol
Do you carry 10mm for SD in a lighter load?
It's nice to see a video where the shooter actually does a little work instead of just shooting his guns and mouth off. Great demo! I have had a Glock 29 since 2008 and it is my carry weapon.
That 40 mm doesnt look that slow to me. The 40 caliber is still a pretty viable ammunition that can get the job done against an attacker/intruder
The 40 slow and weak
.40: say what now
Gaping anus
I have always used the 40. People always talk sht to me about it, not sure why everyone hates the 40s&w so much?
Justin Traupel never understood why people talk shit about this round or that round...at the end of the of the shot placement is the most important factor. 9, 38, 40, 10, 357 sig, 45 will do its job in a close range self defense
Don't quite know.. but took advantage of low prices on surplus .40's recently and am very pleased with the guns and the round.
Perfect demo on why the .40 (or 10mm) is packed by people who know self defense. And for MY money, the .40 does the job just fine. I don't need the 10. (Wouldn't mind HAVING one, though.)
I just have a 10mm and run 40S&W in it while at the range and carry 10mm. One gun shooting 2 calibers is a win
.40 feeds ok in a 10? Using the same mag?
@@ytgsp Does in my SR1911 Ruger with factory mags, Kimber mags and Wilson Kombat mags. 1911s are more picky with ammo than glocks. If you notice at the start of this video he was using 40 in the 10..
Brandon Taylor - I was too busy watching that clay liquefy momentarily as those rounds did major impact. I will watch again.
Damn dude. I can hardly recognize you
No joke! He has came a long way. Good for him.
I just said the same thing 😂
I love the clay tests, they keep the cavity size, unlike the gel tests.
i got an ad with your flexable body armor video before the video
same
Love my 40S&W
Thanks for doing the demonstration. It shows there is no significant difference in calibers it is all about the ammo. Both stopped in the 2nd block and both mushrooms looked the same to me. Both are very effective. Thanks again
As far as which calibre is " better " I am sure that I don't want to get hit by either one
You probably don't want to get shot period
40 short and weak did pretty damn good.
I enjoy the clay videos, and comparison cal to cal are interesting. I think 30-30 to.. 300 blk would be interesting :) Thanks for what you do Scott!
I shoot 40sw so of course hands down it's superior
You mean inferior
@@kamikazeoutdoors7997 Hey now. Ballistics, it maybe inferior. But you also gotta think, a .22 in the hand is better than a .45 in the safe.
@@blakenoble4014 that’s true indeed but I was just staring a fact lol
I’m a .45 sort of guy but I Love the 10mm devastating
There was already a loss of compaction in the clay before going to the 2nd shot...Use separate clay for each round for accurate results. A for me, my goal is not to shoot thru a railroad timber, but to have the round stop the adversary, and not over penetrate, therefore the 40S&W JHP was the most Ideal for everyday life...just my .02.... Secondary wound cavity is primary goal
For concealed carry, I'd certainly choose the 40. A lot of people carry 10mm in bear country with powerful (and expensive) loads meant solely for penetration, as that's what will stop a large animal. JHPs are great for humans, but not great for bears. I own 10mm pistols, but I won't carry them. Where I live, they'd accuse me of using a bear gun on a human. Liberals are idiots.
The chicken after the 10mm hollow point 🤣🤣🤣
That made me laugh so hard I almost couldn't breathe 😂😂😂
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The 10mm has more power, but the .40 is more than enough.
Being available in a smaller frame makes it a nice choice.
I have a 9mm, .40, &
.45.... I like them all, but carry a .40 S&W PC Sheild.
Nothing wrong with .40 S&W
Stfu 40 is ass
Spidercla Dayz until you get shot in the ass with it...
40 is a wanna be 10mm, but yeah if it shoots and is able to do substantial ballistic damage, there’s nothing wrong with it.
It seems the .40 S&W did the same damage as the 10mm. I’ll go with the more available and affordable .40. Good video
A lot of the store bought 10mm is squibbed down to .40 standards. But fuller power 10 loads are available.
Im going to habe to find a way to custom order better bullets for my ten because having a 10 and feeling like its a .40 is gonna get old lol
@@richardparsons614 or start reloading...
A 357-sig vs 9mm comparison would be good.
The .40 "slow and weak" still seemed to make your wrist go limp.
40 stronk and worthwhile!
Clay has always been my favorite thing to shoot. I love these tests
Alfred T looks more fun than making pottery !
That was pretty cool. Thanks. I like the way the clay saves the temp wound cavity. The only problem with B gel and Clay tests is they don't have any of those darned bones to get in the way.
Henry Harle and the clay can be re molded and re used. I thought it was neat after watching.
You can just see how deadly bullets are when the make cavities that big that smashes arteries and turns organs to pulp... Cheers for the video
I would like to see .38 Special +P vs .327 Federal Magnum vs .357 magnum. A .32 H&R Magnum would be also interesting
looks like i'm sticking with the .40 shorty.
If you plan on shooting clay then yes. Its all Depending on what your weapons purpose will be. If i was you i would stick with 9mm if you want a good range/ home defense/personal defense round- i used to own a glock 23 and the recoil was not fun. I would buy a 10mm- just to go bear hunting though. It all depends on what you want to do
Clay is interesting you can see what the shock waves do as the temp cavity does not contract.
Lay the blocks on the side and fill with plaster or some hardening material, remove the clay and get a 3D of the cavity.
Lests see a 9mm vs .40 clay shoot.
Do more of these clay shots with all calibers please!
Wow....for the added cost of a 10mm, I'm thinking I'll go with the 40cal. Besides that my favorite CZ SP01 is offered in a 40cal version. Full steel frame....that's my thing. No plastic.
There are many offerings in a full steel frame 1911 style pistol chambered in 10mm. That being said they are expensive and the ammo is expensive too. I prefer the. 40 for carry, but I would love to have a 10mm just to play with.
Soooo Mr. Rooster says that the 40 isn't that much different than the 10mm. Thats what I heard the rooster saying after each shot.
He said 40 slow and weak... gun almost falls out of his hands 😆
Even with the .40, his wrists act like he's shooting a 500 magnum.
Damn, I’m seeing a lot of 40 S&W fans coming out of the woodwork. I have nothing against the caliber or how it performs personally, I just don’t like it. It may not get the recognition it deserves, but I was just reading an article about how much the 9MM and 45ACP crowds HATE 40 S&W.
Just Turned my sis bf from a 9mm guy to a 40 just gotta shoot the right guns love the Glock 22 and M&p40C
Lol I dont discriminate. Bedside is a 40 cal iwi baby eagle . Couch is a g19 9mm . And being the boomer I tend to be ...I carry a commander 45 haha
Most people here are talking about pistols. I'm debating between Ruger Pistol Caliber Carbine that have 9mm and .40. Anyone have experience? my goal is home defense and small-med game( rabbit to hog). I feel like anything bigger then these won't have much rabbit meat left as you see the clay hole.
@@christophertsai4928 9mm would probably leave a cleaner hole over penetrating. The 40 might leave a bigger hole definitely would drop them tho.
1:56 BLESS YOU
Sort of a test with apples and half apples. 135 grain 1400 fps 588 foot lbs. Not to short and weak.
Interesting how different terminal ballistics are in plastic vs elastic material.
Damn, Scott's humble beginnings!
What was the point of this video? Everyone who knows anything about firearms and the different calibers already knows that the 10mm has more velocity and more actual stopping power than the 40 SW. That being said i would still carey the 40 over the 10 because the difference isnt that great and the 40 is much less expensive and much more readily available.
Brent Bakke carry
“Stopping power” lol 😂
brent bakke, i think you answered your own question, "What was the point of this video? ...." when you said "...because the difference isnt that great ..." this was just to see what that difference actually is. for some, the answer might be there is no real difference, yet for others, maybe it's just enough to make them go with a 10mm. (not trying to be rude, just makin' an observation.)
Love my Colt Delta Elite 10mm, and when I can get it put on my permit in NY, I will have an HK USP Compact 40S&W. Thank you for the the great comparison between the short&long .40cal
10mm is one of my favorite caliber's, I just like the history of it, I have a G20 sf and I do carry it in the winter...a little large for summer carry.
Why does it make a difference whether it's summer or winter? Asking for a friend..
@@jamesritch5245 hard to hide a gun that big under a t-shirt and shorts... I live in central California...it's hot in the summer, I have a small gun for summer
Pretty sweet. I have never shot a 10 millimeter
I carry .40sw 180 grain jhp and 9mm 124 grain jhp. Both will stop a human threat. 10mm is expensive and for somewhat larger game i.e. bear country. Should I need something more powerful I have my 12 gauge.. 00 buckshot or 438 grain 1700 fps hp slugs.
It sounds like you shot the family rooster on that last shot with the 10mm hollow point.
For factory loads there doesn’t seem to be much difference between the 10 mm and 40.
I think the differences are when you start to work up hot hand loads for the G20 vs G22. I always wonder if there would be a difference using a dedicated .40 chambered pistol vs one chambered for 10mm.
Byron Langley thats because a .40 is basically a cut down 10mm.
10mm really starts to shine when you push it to its limits. They'll shoot anything the .40 will, just considerably faster. 10mm is great, but you really need to take up reloading if you want it to shine, or pay a fortune to buy ammo from a company that will.
A video with a .40 cal in it finally
When the clay tries to take over, looks like we'll be safe. 😁
I’m sure it’s been said but next time bring a thin wire and cut the first block in 1/2. Would love to see that cavity unadulterated and it wouldn’t be any harder to put back together. Otherwise keep it up! Love the idea.
The .40 is still a better choice than a
9mm
Absolutely
FBI left the group😂
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bruh 😂😂😂
Because the lawyers and accountants couldn't handle a real fighting caliber. 🤣
Living in Alaska, my 10 mm is my best friend.
I could've bought a M&P 40 or M&P 10mm for around the same price. I chose the 40. 180 gr. HST can be reloaded to 1100 fps, factory ammo is weak compared to what .40 S&W is actually capable of. Also the upper can be converted to both .357 Sig and 9mm, giving you practically 3 guns in one. I would prefer .45 ACP over them all but I'd rather carry 15+1 than 10+1 in the world we live in now.
1:56 bless you
🤣 I said it out loud!!
I am surprised at how big a hole pistol rounds are leaving in clay
First time seeing one of your old videos, after seeing many of your latest. You're like a totally different person now...
Trt does wonders
40 was the Crackhead Killer!... I grew up outside DC, so yeah it's 40 at the minimum... Fools were brushing off 9mm like a damn JOKE!......Every day in the paper "officer fired 9 shots at the suspect, and he managed to flee".......LOL....once cops switched to 40, that kinda stopped....
Shot placement, shot placement, shot placement.
@@WaxDat8800 The idea of a more powerful round is....
People don't always face you with their arms at their sides and stand still. You will take whatever shot you can get. More power means better penetration and energy transfer. Shot placement,shot placement? Reality shot,reality shot!
Where I'm from violent attackers are taking 5 or 6 shots of 9mm from police to be neutralized & most of them are not even drugged up. This started happening when police departments switched from .40s&w to 9mm.
Calls 40 cal slow and weak ? U just proved urself wrong 🤔 Didn’t think this out too well huh
It is. Compare a real 10mm to a .40 and it’s not close.