There are profession leveling guides that tell you which patterns to use and how much of each crafting material you need. My advice is to get two gathering professions and gather everything you need for the two crafting professions you will ultimately level later. Make a separate toon to take over gathering duties later. People will supply their own mats when they need things crafted and they will pay you so buying mats will also be an option later. You will always get the most out of you toon as long as you run engineering and another crafting profession of your choosing. Im partial to Engineering+Alchemy.
That's fine, but just understand that a lot of people will rush to 60 and those people will have a big head start when it comes to earning a raid spot and when it comes to accumulating gold
So far its monotonous, go here kill this go there gather some shit. Kill these and get drops. What am I missing exactly? At the very least later expansions have me more story. So far the only really story driven quest seem go be the atonement stuff. Which makes sense, and it's the coolest of shit. Not to mention hard and requires teamwork. But that's endgame content, otherwise the most fun I had leveling was the IF to DS gauntlet trying to freeze high level mobs, then a warrior rolled through and escorted me the rest of the way to MH. After that, just back to killing A for B. I'm not trying to shit on you or anything. I'm just trying to understand the appeal. So far the most fun is running Dungeons, and doing your class specific quest to unlock your skills. But all that said, to each their own. Soon as I dinged 60 I decided to work on professions.
@@lelouche25 i feel like op. Retail leveling might have more story but it is just an easy and boring grind. I enjoy more the leveling experience on vanilla as you have more challenge against mobs, when you get a boe, even a green one, it can ne an upgrade, cooking, first aid are useful, you get a talent point each level and you have new spells and for me as least it feels more rewarding
You don't need to mail BoE items to friends/guildies to disenchant the items, you can make a new character and disenchant it on an alt, because there's no skill requirement to disenchant gear in vanilla.
@@graog123 Well let's just put it this way, it'd be quicker to level a new character to level 5 and learn enchanting yourself than to wait an hour for some items to reach a friend/guildie's mailbox and then wait another hour for the mats to be sent back.
When I was a solo player in Vanilla I made many alts up to level 20 and leveled professions on them that weren't on my main, and just used those characters and their bank space for those professions. I don't know for sure if they will keep the requirement of level 20 to be able to max a profession or some of the recipes level requirements, but that is what I did so I didn't have to rely on other people to gain gear or food buffs or potions. I did however level my alchemist to 49 just so I could go into scholomance and use that alch table. My main was a Mining-Blacksmith, so I made all my own dark iron gear, and farmed Thorium and Mithril for many days just so I could afford the mats to level the other professions.
Punkrat dude, please keep uploading, I really enjoy your videos, you are clearly an expert at Vanilla. Keep the video grind up dude, I'm sure ur subs count will start skyrocketing soon.
My god I can’t wait to play this. The nostalgia i feel when i watch Classic WoW videos is insane.. I can’t imagine how it’s gunna feel to actually play it
Everyone: Dwarf priest for Fear Ward! Tremor totem, shorter cooldown, removes 5 fears at once, for more races, pulses fear removal: Am I a joke to you?
As I have posted before, my whole EQ guild went to WoW on a guild invite from Blizzard. We had static leveling groups, and streamed across the Barrens as newbies with 10 separate groups, often "fighting" each other for quest mobs (all in fun). We mostly all hit 60 within a week of each other. Maybe 10 fell behind due to work and family commitments. Yes, we have gotten older, if not wiser. So what did the 60s do besides tradeskills (engineering, alchemy, tailering, blacksmithing)? We ran dungeons to catch everyone up, and get everyone BIS gear. We even went back and ran Ony and BWL for a couple people. This was the old school way from EQ. Everyone was there to help, if you didn't help, you got kicked out of the guild. We owned EQ, and we owned WoW.
Level two gathering professions while leveling for money and keep one and grab the crafting profession that complements the gathering profession you'll want to keep at 60.
One quick note - I think tailoring can be very helpful for priests/mages and maybe even warlocks at 60. The Truefaith vestments are BOP, as well as the robe of the archmage.
One by one: - Tailoring gives you BiS chestpiece for each cloth armor class that is stronger than T1 even T2, for Priests replaced by T2, but mages and locks in that time are getting Bloodvine which require tailoring to get 2% crit chance. - To be able to craft Blacksmithing FR gear you need guild support via mats, and even then materials from Thorium brothers come in two waves, so it is a very long wait until you get there. Having Blacksmithing has its value only if you get Arcanite Reaper (Axesmith) or Lionheart helm (armorsmith) recipes early on to make a huge amount of money. - LW should be avoided on main char unless you are going to be guilds Ony Scale Cloak / Corehound Belt / NR gear crafter. - Enchanting is not required for enchanting your own gear, good advice would be to level bank alt to lvl 5 to be able to pick (dis)enchanting. This way you will have a steady amount of enchanting mats in your bank from only sending not needed greens and blues. - Enchanting as the main profession should only be on feral druids since BiS trinket comes from enchanting. - The most common setup for PVE will be herb/engi. The best combination is to level alt to lvl 35 (for 225+) for LW/Alch, which gives you the ability to learn most recipes, including transmutes and cured rugged hide. Being a high level professional in any other setup will require guild to support you. On rest: You have 10 players in UBRS raid, everyone enters 4 times and resets the instance with "/tar Jed", that is 40 tries on UBRS to get Jed ID, still not granted drop but most UBRS runs are with Jed ID.
One thing about the pre-raid BIS lists. The old lists aren't accurate anymore. With Blizzard announcing that when classic launched all items that existed at launch but had been updated throughout the life of vanilla will be in their 1.12 form right from the start. This will in some cases dramatically change the pre-raid BIS lists. To be clear, progressive itemization will only affect items added new in various patches. It does does not affect existing items that were changed at various times.
Eh, just take your time and have fun with it. We've all got friends and enemies in this shindig. Humans have the best racials for Ally, unless you wanna cast go Gnome. Horde has the most diverse mix of races, but the racials give a whole different feel to end game. In the long run, End game is nothing to worry about for the first few months. Even the streamers who got to play to 30 took days. My first time, it took my 3 months to get to lvl 20, but I was a kid. I believe in you. You've got this!
Experience Classic at your own pace, the fun part is leveling through different zones, creating friends through dungeons, and increasing profession skills while questing. I just looked on a forum, and it took someone 9 DAYS of in-game time /played to get to 60. And that was with questing add-ons and guides. Getting to 60 will be quite the achievement in its own.
honestly in my day one of the most valuable things i could do on my lowbie priest WAS tailoring. once you had the patterns for shirts - which were admittedly hard to get at times - you could basically farm money from the auction house. maybe it was because i was on an RP server, but in my experience people would KILL for a nice shirt to go with their prettiest gear. that being said, i'd definitely take it on an alt rather than on a main; you need a good farming character to get the cloth needed to actually make the shirts. my recommendation would be to have your main farmer be a BM hunter or demo warlock post-40, and to farm mainly silk and mageweave with professions like mining/herbalism or skinning/mining or something going at the same time to max out how much you can get out of a zone when you farm. you'll also need to have at least Journeyman, if not Expert, crafting level on your tailoring alt. your highest value shirts will be white/black/red swashbucklers' shirts, dark/rich purple/formal white silk shirts, orange/lavender/pink/orange martial mageweave shirts, and the stylish red/stylish blue/stylish green/gray woolen shirts if you end up with enough wool in the process. and if you get to mooncloth, take that alt up to level 35 to make them an Artisan and grind the fuck out of their tailoring until you can make mooncloth robes 'cause those things sell like hotcakes. i am not kidding. you will be rich beyond your wildest dreams and every night elf/troll priestess (the ones with the teeny weeny tusks and the babyface, you know who i'm talking about) on the server will love you. eventually, you'll be able to make bags too. but we all know you're going to be a good little grunt and put those in the guild bank, right? *right?* of course you are. -sincerely, An Old-Ass Lesbian What Has Played This Game Too Much PS: for the horde, y'all EDIT: for some reason it posted multiple times, youtube are you okay.
Thanks for all these videos you helped me decide im going undead mage with mining and engineering! Was going to play a priest but turns out my friends arent going to be playing so ill have more fun as a mage without my homies and ill make new ones
Thank you for making these vids! I played wow for years (For the Horde!) I have been wanting to get back and lately and watching all your vids! Unfortionatally I don't have a pc and dont know when I can afford one , but anyways keep up the good work you are doing here! Hope to get on and put alot of tour tips to use.
back in the day a buddy and I worked together. I did the blacksmithing and Mining. he did the herb and alc. then we would make things for one and other.
Engineering for hunters is a must have for crafting your thorium shells or thorium headed arrows. But overall yeah Herbalism / Alchemy is the best if you want to be self sufficient for raiding AND making money as well.
Regarding Briarwood Reed, the trinket off the rarespawn Jed Runewatcher in UBRS, it's actually BiS for all casters and healers IIRC. I've leveled a priest, shaman, warlock and druid on pservers. Collectively I must've done literally hundreds of UBRS runs with Jed in all of them (just do /tar Jed once you enter instance to see if he spawned. If not, reset the dungeon) and I never got it on any character xD
Let's get realistic here... the real game doesn't start untill phase 2. That's when PvP will be a thing, that's when pvp system will be a thing and that's when pvp sets are going to be a thing. That's when Dire maul and my endless income of gold is going to be a thing also. So, general plan : FULLY enjoy the lvling experience slow and nicely ( while lvling proffesions also), maybe start playing a few weeks after the initial release. And when u finally reach lvl 60, slow without ruining anything in ur life if phase 2 is not there yet, maybe u can aim for some Molten cores if you happen to find a guild. Then when phase 2 comes, that's when the real game begins.
Might wanna elaborate why phase 2 is so much better? Afaik Onyxia and MC is already available in P1. Ok, as fury warrior i could totally skip MC as there is like 3 items of value there, 2 of them from Ragnaros. The rest BIS items i get from Onyxia, craftables and dungeons. And why does Dire Maul gives you great fortune? You can message me if you don't wanna spread the word. I too plan to make loads of gold. I just want to know new things.
@@mezz9159 oh i don't mind spreading info...Most of the people already know, and the farming is locked inside the instance so it's not like a hidden spot out in the world. And the money comes from vendoring.. so server economy is irrelevant also. In DM, hunters and mages can basically make a fortune... hunters by soloing tribute runs ( u can watch videos about it) and for mages by farming DM East wing, the LASHERS ( also look into it in a video.). Now i think there are so other classes capable of farming the lashers.. like priest with holy nova, but it's a little bit more difficult and more mana intensive. Now since the gold making there can be done solo and has absolutly 0 connection to the world and the economy.. that means that u can steadily farm ur 100% mount... In less than 3 days and without a special burnout tactic with no sleep. And ofc making gold in general is usefull in vanila.. it's not in other expansions, but in vanila gold is actually a lot of "power". Also DM provides TONS of BIS for multiple classes and specs. The other reason why phase 2 is so important is as i said, the pvp. In my personal opinion, if a game doesn't include both pve and pvp, and it includes only 1 of them, then it's a half-incomplete game. And as a pvp player who plans on doing a little bit on raiding.. like mc-bwl and 20 mans, i really want the pvp rewards.. Battlegrounds comes in phase 3 but that doesn't bother me. I like the danger in the world.. and if there's a reward for ur head, that danger multiplies. If there's no reward people won't bother too much about pvp.. and with good reason. People need motivation and rewards to do stuff..
@@akhsdenlew1861 Thank you. I actually just saw a video for killing lashers as a mage yesterday. I was planning to play as a fury warrior though. I played hunter since classic but i was rather clueless back in classic beginnings . I made quite some gold Cataclysm though, when everyone and their mom wanted to have pets. There were raptor pets (eggs) that spawned on 4 particular points and i had my timer on them. My bank was completely full with raptor pets but i could ramp up the price on them since i was the only provider. They made me 140k gold i believe.
Good vid, i would add that every maradaun quest is avaible @ level 46 and with atleast 1 person who knows where to go you should be able to do a full quest run in 3-4 hours its worth the time if you do all quests and its fun to do atleast once, also sunken temple drops alot of usefull gear so if you are bored of leveling then you should go for a run or two
@@vasackvasac There's a warlock version that isn't as good but still viable. Though for warlocks tailoring is also great because you can make both normal bags and the soulshard bags, which as a warlock are super useful since you need to carry your soulshards in your bags. The mooncloth reagent has a long crafting cd so you could also sell that for profit.
@@vasackvasac Well it's one option for you. It depends on whether you think you will like it/get more benefit out of it than say alchemy. I'm still trying to decide for myself if I'll go tailoring like i did originally in vanilla or alchemy like I've done since tbc XD Just having your own bags easily is a huge bonus of tailoring though.
Id suggest starting BRD already at lvl 50. Some drops in there are easy to get and requiers low levels to use. Its a nice boost overall to farm some early bosses (like arena) over and over for that sweet loot :)
You may have mentioned this else where, but Hunter prefers Engineering as a crafting profession over leatherworking or blacksmithing. To pair up with Engineering Mining is probably the best bet to try and mitigate the cost of engineering.
Hey Punk, i've just discovered you're channel recently, and i like you're style, keep up a great work, i'm sure you will grove bigger and further, and i truly wish you that :)
To be honest I feel like all these private server guys talk to much about BIS items and preperation for raiding. Just do what you want - Get lets say full D1 set or start ranking up to get a few blue pieces and you'll for sure get a spot in a guild to start raiding MC. And no you dont have to bring a ton of consumables or have a lot on enchants - its not needed for alteast the early raids. This is from a guy who actually raided back in retail vanilla. But sure its nice if you want to follow the BIS list and want to maximize your character but the thing is that all the effort you put down will be wasted cause youll pick up much better loot pretty quickly even tho theres 40 people in the raid.
I want to complete the oddball sets, Dungeon 2 upgrades, the Tier 2.5 set from AQ, the ZG sets, etc. Just for fun really. I don't care about clearing MC and grinding best in slot. Been there, done that.
Tailoring creates a super pre-bis robe for Warlocks, Mages, and Priests. I can't speak for mages and warlocks but I know the priest one is only replaced by tier 2. Also the likelihood of the devilsaur mafia existing on retail classic is very low. The entire system relied on cross-faction collusion that was only allowed by poor moderation on private servers.
The Mage robe is very good, with having a lot of spell damage, crit, and an attached Mana gem. The Warlock one is probably the weakest of them in terms of raiding. While it offers 46 spelldmg, which is still BIS at that level, it has no crit or hit. And the On Use effect is worthless in a raid. Still a very good robe, until the Bloodvine set arrives. Just not on the power level of the other two.
I remember the Fire Resist grind. It is really painful to have to wear green FR gear because you cant get to 100 or 150 FR and leave off your BIS gear because you can't make the required FR. It just takes hours in BRD unless you get really lucky. You can get a pretty good set together in no time without the FR, maybe not BIS but not far off, but that FR is a hard number that you have to reach, and doing it with gear that has 10FR each hurts your stats really badly.
Why would you farm fire res gear? Fire protection pots and you're good. MAYBE the one tank that is tanking up Ragnaros might want to get some fire res. For the rest of the raid it's pure waste. Get an engineer to create you loads of Flame Defelctors. These bad boys block 600 fire dmg and don't share potion CD afaik.
@@mezz9159 This is the problem with private servers. They just are not accurate. You are going to need 100-150 unbuffed FR for MC, even if you are ranged. Flame deflectors require engineering to use in the real game. And FR Pots are going to be prohibitively expensive until the top guilds are through MC. Without FR, things like the bomb will one shot you.
@@TheToledoTrumpton This is simply not true. I raided extensivly in classic, and nobody had fire-res gear. The geddon bomb doesn't kill you. I didn't touch private servers. MC is a cakewalk really. You can do it with 25 well equipped people, or 40 green equipped.
@@lolwhatever7307 That's fair, I could see dropping them for the 8 piece bonus. I've never made it that far, just the first tier of raiding on a private server. Looking forward to pushing things on live in a few months.
chances of getting Ironfoe is about as great as winning in lottery, are they also setting dungeon limits as they were at the end of vanilla or at the beginning, UBRS was a 15 man raid for a long time?
Hey great video Punkrat, I was just going to throw out a suggestion. Could you do a video on Raid preparation on melee characters and healing characters and range characters? These would be some great videos I think that would help bring some more traffic to your channel as well. As well as consumables for each. Thanks!
Tailoring chests are BIS for casters and they are bop. The Thorium brotherhood is not there at launch and will be available at bwl patch if Im not wrong. Leatherworking for the Devilsaur is not worth as you can just get the mats and get someone else to make it for you. Not worth an entire proff unless you plan to sell.
More of a question than a comment; Which endgame dungeons should be ran over others for each piece of pre-raid gear? I was thinking Scholomance before UBRS or Stratholme, but I'm fairly new to gearing for Classic raids so any suggestions would be helpful for run order.
Ever thought about a gearing guide for each class? Which faction to grind first, which recipes to farm, which profession to level, which dungeons to farm and so on. I would watch it (btw warrior pls :D)
Ima go fishing at 60. Just fish and fish and fish. Many will say they will, but they won't. They'll fish 50-80 times and be done. Not me tho. Daves fish. That's right, step right up
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hey Punk love your content, are you from Montreal too with the logo?? i am Deadmoon on twitch, have a question, i know you are not big on warlocks but what would you recommend for leveling/60 professions as a Lock? great content
When Deathwing sundered Azeroth, he came across Chuck Norris who gave him such a nasty look that Deathwing decided to imprison himself underground again and apologize
Warrior BS/Mine, but I do think Eng might be better as you can farm for the resistance gear. Hunter Eng/Mine for the ammo and guns. Druid Alch/Herb or LW/Herb. Priest, Mage, Warlock Ench/Tailor. Rogue Eng/Mine. Shaman anything. Paladin anything.
Don't omit tailoring, robe of the archmagi and truefaith vestiments are seriously good bop items. Once you get that yeah, you can drop it but it's THAT good that you get it for that one thing. Also if your in it for money, bags never go out of style.
I played vanilla wow back when it came out and never really got to do end game content at all. Will guilds take inexperienced players if they do all the things you laid out here? I'd love to be a part of raids. And thanks for all the videos, they are making me want to play classic so bad.
Only ~ 12, 5 % of all 7 mill subscribers got to do eng game content. Ofc you will found raiding guild. Important question is - do you want it? I started playing on TBC, played last year on Elysium and after I hitted 60 - game suddenly transformed into BFA, I mean I farmed all preraid gear and then there was only - farm gold for raids -> raid -> farm gold for raids -> raid. I was like "Ok, leveling is cool 1000 times cooler than retail, but I leaved BFA cause all I was doing - farm gold and azerite -> raid -> azerite and gold -> raid." I think that WoW in 2005 gathered every casual, that hated MMO, but loved warcraft. Like really - very few guilds on my server in TBC were doing hardcore raiding and I was playing on high pop server. Same goes for all next expansions. I guess 90 % of people always were just doing their own shit instead of end game content. Like running random BGs, gathering etc. I remember how in my guild we had like 30 active members and 70 - 90 that were logging 2 - 3 times per week. An anomaly of a game indeed, game for those who like social aspect of MMO, but hates grind aspect of MMO.
there r many errors for BIS Warrior. I prefer the Elysium Guide for Warriors (prot). It also includes Fire and Nature Resistance. But nice Video. I like it.
People are going to realise that they dont have the time to play as they used to have. People aren't going to want to farm longer then to play the actuall content of the game
True. The more I research wow classic I now realize I've forgotten so many details. Especially how much grinding we had to do to raid. It actually almost gives me anxiety to remember the amount of time I put in to Wow.
Yeah. people that were old enough to understand the end game raiding in vanilla have kids/work/wifes today. They will never be able to put the amount of time they used to do in vanilla. I just wish they added the dungeon finder tool. Because if you have a life outside of wow you aren't going to be invited to groups. because people with better gear and more time are going to take those spots.
There is a very faint shadow of a picture of a speaker or something similar on the bottom of the screen slightly left from the middle. Anyone else notice that?
There is no progressive itemization meaning items won't change from their 1.0 to 1.5 to 1.12 state but items that only drop when AQ is out for example won't start dropping until the AQ patch.
Which professions do you guys reccomend for someone who is going to be doing a combination of PVE and PVP semi-hardcore? Herb+Alch for consumables? or Mining + Engi for pvp shit?.. I would also like to have some good gold making which makes me lean towards herb+alch.
Best tip for professions in the early max lvl game, if you play with friends: plan your professions, like you plan you classes, do not stack all the chars on one. Most professions do not have inherent bonuses, which are worth it, at that time in game, but they all have stuff they can do for others. You do not need 5 engineers or 7 enchanters. Make one of your friends the main char for one of the professions and try to pool the mats to them, so they can get high end recipes early. That way they can not only make the expensive enchants, pots and ammo, they can sell those, while they are expensive. You also want to have at least one enchanter, miner, herbalist and skinner in every dungeon run, if applicable. Those mats you get in dungeons are some of the more expensive ones. Try to make friends with people who have the right professions, if you do not have any. Making friends is almost natural in vanilla. Your most important investment in early max lvl game is your firendslist, not your gear. Remember good players and try to be remembered by them. Even if you have your 50 people for your raid group ready, it never hurts to have that tank on the friendslist who will run LBRS at 0300 for a recipe you need, because he is bored. PS. Engineering is the best profession for every class, but it is a gold sink. If you want to main tank or do much of PvP, take it, but expect to put more gold into it, than you will ever get out. Alchemy+herbalism is close second imho, without going tryhard and you can make some nice gold with it. Especially early, using your pots regulary is a huge advantage.
I never played vanilla, i started it Cata but i played thoughout whole of MoP (best expansion) and the only thing i cared about was PvP, (Battlegrounds and Arenas), now i know there are no arenas in vanilla, but is it worth grinding to 60 in vanilla if the only thing im am going to do is PvP?
@punkrat 15:10 idk on most private servers i played rogues where a meme i farmed full pre bis gear, farmed leatherworking, enchanting and did everything to minmax my gear. Still a lazy mage got spot before me........
Pretty new to wow and playing hunter right now, aint I suppose to wear mail after lvl 40? Why use leather after 60? He talked about leatherworking and getting devilsaurs
It was like this all the way up to wotlk. In cata they gave classes a bonus for wearing the gear they are supposed to wear mail for hunters etc but in vanilla TBC and wotlk a warrior could also wear leather because if the stats on the leather item is better then your plate why not?
Are dungeon/tier 0 and tier 0.5 sets any good? (I know tier 0.5 is a massive grind so there is no point going for it if you're going to raid). Specifically I'm looking to play a hunter, but I don't think I will be joining a raiding guild due to inconsistent timewindows for playing (unable to show up in raids consistently). I will be looking to just farm world content for gold, gank some people for fun, and do a lot of BGs when they are released. So what I'm wondering is if the hunter dungeon set is worth it? Ofc raid gear is the best, but will I get totally trashed to the ground by anyone in even half MC or BWL gear with my dungeon 4 piece and some pre raid BiS? And I think hunters are a good class for players without that much gear, since they have a good toolkit for kiting, loads of range. And I hear their dmg is better than most classes when badly geared, but they don't scale as well with gear as other classes. And I thought of going 21 marks for aimedshot crits, range, 5% ranged crit and scatter shot, while specing 30 in survival for 10% max hp, 5% parry, deterrence and the 3% hit, 3% crit, and the huge 15% agi. I feel like those base stats you get from talents kind of compensate for having meh gear.
Engineering > BS as a tank
yep, i mentioned that in my tank guide
if you don't have both as a tank you can't even be mentioned as tank
@daniel482363 engi is better than bs as a tank..
There are profession leveling guides that tell you which patterns to use and how much of each crafting material you need.
My advice is to get two gathering professions and gather everything you need for the two crafting professions you will ultimately level later. Make a separate toon to take over gathering duties later.
People will supply their own mats when they need things crafted and they will pay you so buying mats will also be an option later.
You will always get the most out of you toon as long as you run engineering and another crafting profession of your choosing. Im partial to Engineering+Alchemy.
@@ACCAW11 Excellent comment, thank you!
First thing for probably any of us upon hitting 60 on classic: have a damn shower.
for me: start rerolling for 36 hours to get better build and then go with shit one and repeat
but only during a long flight path
@@shadowkingd0m Hahaha
It will take me months (old hc player but now I only have time to play casual) so that shower will be really usefull
You'll be lucky to see any players in the first month at level 60 not unless they're playing all the time
Im not gonna rush to 60. Raids are great and all, but the journey to 60 was why vanilla was a great experience, for me anyways. 😎👍
That's fine, but just understand that a lot of people will rush to 60 and those people will have a big head start when it comes to earning a raid spot and when it comes to accumulating gold
@Username imagine min-maxing an easy af old game. lol.
So far its monotonous, go here kill this go there gather some shit. Kill these and get drops. What am I missing exactly? At the very least later expansions have me more story. So far the only really story driven quest seem go be the atonement stuff. Which makes sense, and it's the coolest of shit. Not to mention hard and requires teamwork. But that's endgame content, otherwise the most fun I had leveling was the IF to DS gauntlet trying to freeze high level mobs, then a warrior rolled through and escorted me the rest of the way to MH. After that, just back to killing A for B.
I'm not trying to shit on you or anything. I'm just trying to understand the appeal. So far the most fun is running Dungeons, and doing your class specific quest to unlock your skills. But all that said, to each their own. Soon as I dinged 60 I decided to work on professions.
Joined classic a year late and had such a fun time questing and doing dungeons
@@lelouche25 i feel like op. Retail leveling might have more story but it is just an easy and boring grind. I enjoy more the leveling experience on vanilla as you have more challenge against mobs, when you get a boe, even a green one, it can ne an upgrade, cooking, first aid are useful, you get a talent point each level and you have new spells and for me as least it feels more rewarding
You don't need to mail BoE items to friends/guildies to disenchant the items, you can make a new character and disenchant it on an alt, because there's no skill requirement to disenchant gear in vanilla.
but mailing only one item at a time is suuuuper annoying! :D
TheValinov you will be able to send 12 iems or more per mail in classic
Level 5 is required.
You need to reach level 5, but otherwise yes this is valid
@@graog123 Well let's just put it this way, it'd be quicker to level a new character to level 5 and learn enchanting yourself than to wait an hour for some items to reach a friend/guildie's mailbox and then wait another hour for the mats to be sent back.
Dude you're the new Preach for me, im stuck binge watching all of your classic videos. Soaking up all the knowledge!
When I was a solo player in Vanilla I made many alts up to level 20 and leveled professions on them that weren't on my main, and just used those characters and their bank space for those professions. I don't know for sure if they will keep the requirement of level 20 to be able to max a profession or some of the recipes level requirements, but that is what I did so I didn't have to rely on other people to gain gear or food buffs or potions. I did however level my alchemist to 49 just so I could go into scholomance and use that alch table.
My main was a Mining-Blacksmith, so I made all my own dark iron gear, and farmed Thorium and Mithril for many days just so I could afford the mats to level the other professions.
Punkrat
dude, please keep uploading, I really enjoy your videos, you are clearly an expert at Vanilla. Keep the video grind up dude, I'm sure ur subs count will start skyrocketing soon.
came across your channel searching classic content...Love you're video's keep up the good work!
My god I can’t wait to play this. The nostalgia i feel when i watch Classic WoW videos is insane.. I can’t imagine how it’s gunna feel to actually play it
Fuck dude August 27th seems so far away. I CANT WAIT
ikr!!!!
How you doing a year late
My plan for being raid ready is just using a dwarf priest.
This annoyed me throughout Vanilla. Benching better players for Dwarf Priests.
Everyone: Dwarf priest for Fear Ward!
Tremor totem, shorter cooldown, removes 5 fears at once, for more races, pulses fear removal: Am I a joke to you?
@@ygma1460 Alliance doesn't have em
@@DIEGhostfish yeah and Horde also doesn't have Dwares lmao.
As I have posted before, my whole EQ guild went to WoW on a guild invite from Blizzard. We had static leveling groups, and streamed across the Barrens as newbies with 10 separate groups, often "fighting" each other for quest mobs (all in fun). We mostly all hit 60 within a week of each other. Maybe 10 fell behind due to work and family commitments. Yes, we have gotten older, if not wiser. So what did the 60s do besides tradeskills (engineering, alchemy, tailering, blacksmithing)? We ran dungeons to catch everyone up, and get everyone BIS gear. We even went back and ran Ony and BWL for a couple people. This was the old school way from EQ. Everyone was there to help, if you didn't help, you got kicked out of the guild. We owned EQ, and we owned WoW.
Level two gathering professions while leveling for money and keep one and grab the crafting profession that complements the gathering profession you'll want to keep at 60.
Love your videos punkrat! Listening to them as I do the hard grind of leveling a prot warrior!
One quick note - I think tailoring can be very helpful for priests/mages and maybe even warlocks at 60. The Truefaith vestments are BOP, as well as the robe of the archmage.
One by one:
- Tailoring gives you BiS chestpiece for each cloth armor class that is stronger than T1 even T2, for Priests replaced by T2, but mages and locks in that time are getting Bloodvine which require tailoring to get 2% crit chance.
- To be able to craft Blacksmithing FR gear you need guild support via mats, and even then materials from Thorium brothers come in two waves, so it is a very long wait until you get there. Having Blacksmithing has its value only if you get Arcanite Reaper (Axesmith) or Lionheart helm (armorsmith) recipes early on to make a huge amount of money.
- LW should be avoided on main char unless you are going to be guilds Ony Scale Cloak / Corehound Belt / NR gear crafter.
- Enchanting is not required for enchanting your own gear, good advice would be to level bank alt to lvl 5 to be able to pick (dis)enchanting. This way you will have a steady amount of enchanting mats in your bank from only sending not needed greens and blues.
- Enchanting as the main profession should only be on feral druids since BiS trinket comes from enchanting.
- The most common setup for PVE will be herb/engi. The best combination is to level alt to lvl 35 (for 225+) for LW/Alch, which gives you the ability to learn most recipes, including transmutes and cured rugged hide. Being a high level professional in any other setup will require guild to support you.
On rest: You have 10 players in UBRS raid, everyone enters 4 times and resets the instance with "/tar Jed", that is 40 tries on UBRS to get Jed ID, still not granted drop but most UBRS runs are with Jed ID.
I was looking for comment about chests lol, thanks !
Another amazing video! You are awesome mate! I have forgotten so many thinks about pre raid preparation and you reminded them to me! Thanks dude!
One thing about the pre-raid BIS lists. The old lists aren't accurate anymore. With Blizzard announcing that when classic launched all items that existed at launch but had been updated throughout the life of vanilla will be in their 1.12 form right from the start. This will in some cases dramatically change the pre-raid BIS lists. To be clear, progressive itemization will only affect items added new in various patches. It does does not affect existing items that were changed at various times.
I'm freaking new to WOW I've never played it and this is a lot to take in, but thank you though I appreciate it. 🤘🙏
Eh, just take your time and have fun with it. We've all got friends and enemies in this shindig. Humans have the best racials for Ally, unless you wanna cast go Gnome. Horde has the most diverse mix of races, but the racials give a whole different feel to end game.
In the long run, End game is nothing to worry about for the first few months. Even the streamers who got to play to 30 took days. My first time, it took my 3 months to get to lvl 20, but I was a kid.
I believe in you. You've got this!
As said, you shouldn't worry about anything really, just kind of experience it as It happens
@@sennath6227 yep, just like how we did it before. And that's actually the most valuable experience.
You will understand why it's called the WORLD of Warcraft. I'm so jealous of you. Do us all a favor and commit to this game 🙏🙏
Experience Classic at your own pace, the fun part is leveling through different zones, creating friends through dungeons, and increasing profession skills while questing. I just looked on a forum, and it took someone 9 DAYS of in-game time /played to get to 60. And that was with questing add-ons and guides. Getting to 60 will be quite the achievement in its own.
You can use /target Jed when running into UBRS, and reset until you hit him. He should be targetable from the entrance if he's in there.
Yeah I remember doing that in vanilla and Nost alot.
honestly in my day one of the most valuable things i could do on my lowbie priest WAS tailoring. once you had the patterns for shirts - which were admittedly hard to get at times - you could basically farm money from the auction house. maybe it was because i was on an RP server, but in my experience people would KILL for a nice shirt to go with their prettiest gear.
that being said, i'd definitely take it on an alt rather than on a main; you need a good farming character to get the cloth needed to actually make the shirts. my recommendation would be to have your main farmer be a BM hunter or demo warlock post-40, and to farm mainly silk and mageweave with professions like mining/herbalism or skinning/mining or something going at the same time to max out how much you can get out of a zone when you farm. you'll also need to have at least Journeyman, if not Expert, crafting level on your tailoring alt. your highest value shirts will be white/black/red swashbucklers' shirts, dark/rich purple/formal white silk shirts, orange/lavender/pink/orange martial mageweave shirts, and the stylish red/stylish blue/stylish green/gray woolen shirts if you end up with enough wool in the process.
and if you get to mooncloth, take that alt up to level 35 to make them an Artisan and grind the fuck out of their tailoring until you can make mooncloth robes 'cause those things sell like hotcakes. i am not kidding. you will be rich beyond your wildest dreams and every night elf/troll priestess (the ones with the teeny weeny tusks and the babyface, you know who i'm talking about) on the server will love you.
eventually, you'll be able to make bags too. but we all know you're going to be a good little grunt and put those in the guild bank, right? *right?* of course you are.
-sincerely, An Old-Ass Lesbian What Has Played This Game Too Much
PS: for the horde, y'all
EDIT: for some reason it posted multiple times, youtube are you okay.
Very informative, I’d watch more BiS advice videos
I'd like to see prot warr pre raid bis vid
Dang dude sick video! Alot of details, I'm glad it got alot of views bro!
Thanks for all these videos you helped me decide im going undead mage with mining and engineering! Was going to play a priest but turns out my friends arent going to be playing so ill have more fun as a mage without my homies and ill make new ones
Great video, solid work all around, thanks for making it!
Thank you for making these vids! I played wow for years (For the Horde!) I have been wanting to get back and lately and watching all your vids! Unfortionatally I don't have a pc and dont know when I can afford one , but anyways keep up the good work you are doing here! Hope to get on and put alot of tour tips to use.
Dude, just come back, its too good :)
tailoring for robe of the archmage mage lasted me till t2.5
This. Also, making bags. Early on bags will be in HIGH demand. Gotta disagree with punkrat here. Tailoring will be great.
@Thelondonbadger tailoring also has mooncloth cd
Literally screamed JET SET RADIIOOO at the end xD awesome guide tho!
back in the day a buddy and I worked together. I did the blacksmithing and Mining. he did the herb and alc. then we would make things for one and other.
Dude I'm so amped for classic
Engineering for hunters is a must have for crafting your thorium shells or thorium headed arrows. But overall yeah Herbalism / Alchemy is the best if you want to be self sufficient for raiding AND making money as well.
Regarding Briarwood Reed, the trinket off the rarespawn Jed Runewatcher in UBRS, it's actually BiS for all casters and healers IIRC. I've leveled a priest, shaman, warlock and druid on pservers. Collectively I must've done literally hundreds of UBRS runs with Jed in all of them (just do /tar Jed once you enter instance to see if he spawned. If not, reset the dungeon) and I never got it on any character xD
Yeah when he said mages and warlocks I'm looking at it thinking uh that would like nice on my shaman!
Let's get realistic here... the real game doesn't start untill phase 2.
That's when PvP will be a thing, that's when pvp system will be a thing and that's when pvp sets are going to be a thing.
That's when Dire maul and my endless income of gold is going to be a thing also.
So, general plan : FULLY enjoy the lvling experience slow and nicely ( while lvling proffesions also), maybe start playing a few weeks after the initial release.
And when u finally reach lvl 60, slow without ruining anything in ur life if phase 2 is not there yet, maybe u can aim for some Molten cores if you happen to find a guild.
Then when phase 2 comes, that's when the real game begins.
Might wanna elaborate why phase 2 is so much better? Afaik Onyxia and MC is already available in P1. Ok, as fury warrior i could totally skip MC as there is like 3 items of value there, 2 of them from Ragnaros. The rest BIS items i get from Onyxia, craftables and dungeons.
And why does Dire Maul gives you great fortune? You can message me if you don't wanna spread the word. I too plan to make loads of gold. I just want to know new things.
@@mezz9159 oh i don't mind spreading info...Most of the people already know, and the farming is locked inside the instance so it's not like a hidden spot out in the world.
And the money comes from vendoring.. so server economy is irrelevant also.
In DM, hunters and mages can basically make a fortune... hunters by soloing tribute runs ( u can watch videos about it) and for mages by farming DM East wing, the LASHERS ( also look into it in a video.).
Now i think there are so other classes capable of farming the lashers.. like priest with holy nova, but it's a little bit more difficult and more mana intensive.
Now since the gold making there can be done solo and has absolutly 0 connection to the world and the economy.. that means that u can steadily farm ur 100% mount...
In less than 3 days and without a special burnout tactic with no sleep.
And ofc making gold in general is usefull in vanila.. it's not in other expansions, but in vanila gold is actually a lot of "power".
Also DM provides TONS of BIS for multiple classes and specs.
The other reason why phase 2 is so important is as i said, the pvp.
In my personal opinion, if a game doesn't include both pve and pvp, and it includes only 1 of them, then it's a half-incomplete game.
And as a pvp player who plans on doing a little bit on raiding.. like mc-bwl and 20 mans, i really want the pvp rewards..
Battlegrounds comes in phase 3 but that doesn't bother me.
I like the danger in the world.. and if there's a reward for ur head, that danger multiplies.
If there's no reward people won't bother too much about pvp.. and with good reason.
People need motivation and rewards to do stuff..
@@akhsdenlew1861 Thank you. I actually just saw a video for killing lashers as a mage yesterday. I was planning to play as a fury warrior though. I played hunter since classic but i was rather clueless back in classic beginnings . I made quite some gold Cataclysm though, when everyone and their mom wanted to have pets. There were raptor pets (eggs) that spawned on 4 particular points and i had my timer on them. My bank was completely full with raptor pets but i could ramp up the price on them since i was the only provider. They made me 140k gold i believe.
Yeah, you COULD do this, OR go to IF and have a drinking party with some guildies to celebrate you got max lvl and have fun playing the game :D
Good vid, i would add that every maradaun quest is avaible @ level 46 and with atleast 1 person who knows where to go you should be able to do a full quest run in 3-4 hours its worth the time if you do all quests and its fun to do atleast once, also sunken temple drops alot of usefull gear so if you are bored of leveling then you should go for a run or two
You're incorrect about tailoring not being useful. You can get truefaith vestments for example early on and they're t2 equivalent for priests.
I haven't played vanilla before but i plan to,is it good for a warlock?
@@vasackvasac There's a warlock version that isn't as good but still viable. Though for warlocks tailoring is also great because you can make both normal bags and the soulshard bags, which as a warlock are super useful since you need to carry your soulshards in your bags. The mooncloth reagent has a long crafting cd so you could also sell that for profit.
@@bluumberry so would you recommend me to take tailoring as a crafting profession?
@@vasackvasac Well it's one option for you. It depends on whether you think you will like it/get more benefit out of it than say alchemy. I'm still trying to decide for myself if I'll go tailoring like i did originally in vanilla or alchemy like I've done since tbc XD Just having your own bags easily is a huge bonus of tailoring though.
@@bluumberry I'll probably go for herbalism and alchemy since I can make money off it and also have potions and stuff ready.
just here to support wow classic.
Id suggest starting BRD already at lvl 50. Some drops in there are easy to get and requiers low levels to use. Its a nice boost overall to farm some early bosses (like arena) over and over for that sweet loot :)
You may have mentioned this else where, but Hunter prefers Engineering as a crafting profession over leatherworking or blacksmithing. To pair up with Engineering Mining is probably the best bet to try and mitigate the cost of engineering.
Hey Punk, i've just discovered you're channel recently, and i like you're style, keep up a great work, i'm sure you will grove bigger and further, and i truly wish you that :)
Great content man, keep the videos coming!
To be honest I feel like all these private server guys talk to much about BIS items and preperation for raiding. Just do what you want - Get lets say full D1 set or start ranking up to get a few blue pieces and you'll for sure get a spot in a guild to start raiding MC. And no you dont have to bring a ton of consumables or have a lot on enchants - its not needed for alteast the early raids. This is from a guy who actually raided back in retail vanilla. But sure its nice if you want to follow the BIS list and want to maximize your character but the thing is that all the effort you put down will be wasted cause youll pick up much better loot pretty quickly even tho theres 40 people in the raid.
I want to complete the oddball sets, Dungeon 2 upgrades, the Tier 2.5 set from AQ, the ZG sets, etc. Just for fun really. I don't care about clearing MC and grinding best in slot. Been there, done that.
Really enjoying your content bud. Keep it up!
Man I’m so excited. I have no plans or goals! I just wanna play classssiiiiic!
Tailoring creates a super pre-bis robe for Warlocks, Mages, and Priests. I can't speak for mages and warlocks but I know the priest one is only replaced by tier 2.
Also the likelihood of the devilsaur mafia existing on retail classic is very low. The entire system relied on cross-faction collusion that was only allowed by poor moderation on private servers.
The Mage robe is very good, with having a lot of spell damage, crit, and an attached Mana gem. The Warlock one is probably the weakest of them in terms of raiding. While it offers 46 spelldmg, which is still BIS at that level, it has no crit or hit. And the On Use effect is worthless in a raid. Still a very good robe, until the Bloodvine set arrives. Just not on the power level of the other two.
An organic variant of the Devilsaur Mafia will definitely occur, people will naturally highly contest the Devilsaur leather
Barely played the game on my laptop at like 10 yrs old. Now I have a desktop and working on my first lvl 60 character.
I remember the Fire Resist grind. It is really painful to have to wear green FR gear because you cant get to 100 or 150 FR and leave off your BIS gear because you can't make the required FR.
It just takes hours in BRD unless you get really lucky. You can get a pretty good set together in no time without the FR, maybe not BIS but not far off, but that FR is a hard number that you have to reach, and doing it with gear that has 10FR each hurts your stats really badly.
Why would you farm fire res gear? Fire protection pots and you're good. MAYBE the one tank that is tanking up Ragnaros might want to get some fire res. For the rest of the raid it's pure waste. Get an engineer to create you loads of Flame Defelctors. These bad boys block 600 fire dmg and don't share potion CD afaik.
@@mezz9159 This is the problem with private servers. They just are not accurate. You are going to need 100-150 unbuffed FR for MC, even if you are ranged.
Flame deflectors require engineering to use in the real game. And FR Pots are going to be prohibitively expensive until the top guilds are through MC.
Without FR, things like the bomb will one shot you.
@@TheToledoTrumpton This is simply not true. I raided extensivly in classic, and nobody had fire-res gear. The geddon bomb doesn't kill you. I didn't touch private servers. MC is a cakewalk really. You can do it with 25 well equipped people, or 40 green equipped.
ah - Troll.
Spend those DPK point so you get a chance at that loot for the first time this month! Nostalgia!
Tailoring is insanely good for Priests Truefaith Vestments available at launch, can be crafted at lvl 57, and will last you until Naxx!
until 8/8 t2 tho
@@lolwhatever7307 That's fair, I could see dropping them for the 8 piece bonus. I've never made it that far, just the first tier of raiding on a private server. Looking forward to pushing things on live in a few months.
chances of getting Ironfoe is about as great as winning in lottery,
are they also setting dungeon limits as they were at the end of vanilla or at the beginning,
UBRS was a 15 man raid for a long time?
Got my [hand of justice] at lvl 59 doin 3 rogue stels run on marshall 15 times, 2 pf us got it, and all got his sword
Hey great video Punkrat, I was just going to throw out a suggestion. Could you do a video on Raid preparation on melee characters and healing characters and range characters? These would be some great videos I think that would help bring some more traffic to your channel as well. As well as consumables for each. Thanks!
Tailoring chests are BIS for casters and they are bop. The Thorium brotherhood is not there at launch and will be available at bwl patch if Im not wrong. Leatherworking for the Devilsaur is not worth as you can just get the mats and get someone else to make it for you. Not worth an entire proff unless you plan to sell.
Funny you said Ironfoe + HoJ would be a dream i had both and Dragons call at 53 xD havent seen an epic since!
Tailoring is so useful for cloth raid BiS.
Definition of treating raiding like a sweaty fucking job instead of just a fun game to fail and succeed in
More of a question than a comment; Which endgame dungeons should be ran over others for each piece of pre-raid gear? I was thinking Scholomance before UBRS or Stratholme, but I'm fairly new to gearing for Classic raids so any suggestions would be helpful for run order.
You can begin pre-q's at 55, would be worth atleast beginning on them.
Ever thought about a gearing guide for each class? Which faction to grind first, which recipes to farm, which profession to level, which dungeons to farm and so on. I would watch it (btw warrior pls :D)
Ima go fishing at 60. Just fish and fish and fish.
Many will say they will, but they won't. They'll fish 50-80 times and be done.
Not me tho.
Daves fish. That's right, step right up
Fishing is the best, nothing like having a good ol' fishing weekend in the comfort of your own home
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I’m surprised you didn’t talk about the ubrs key
Truestrike Shoulders... Enough said ;)
Great content man loved it
hey Punk love your content, are you from Montreal too with the logo?? i am Deadmoon on twitch, have a question, i know you are not big on warlocks but what would you recommend for leveling/60 professions as a Lock? great content
When Deathwing sundered Azeroth, he came across Chuck Norris who gave him such a nasty look that Deathwing decided to imprison himself underground again and apologize
It's all about chance to hit and increased base crit chance!
I dont think i can wait for vanilla much longer :(
Are there any reasons to level blacksmithing and alchemy by myself or is it possible just to take mining and herbalism and let others craft the stuff?
Warrior BS/Mine, but I do think Eng might be better as you can farm for the resistance gear.
Hunter Eng/Mine for the ammo and guns.
Druid Alch/Herb or LW/Herb.
Priest, Mage, Warlock Ench/Tailor.
Rogue Eng/Mine.
Shaman anything.
Paladin anything.
Engi will always be better than BS
Don't omit tailoring, robe of the archmagi and truefaith vestiments are seriously good bop items. Once you get that yeah, you can drop it but it's THAT good that you get it for that one thing. Also if your in it for money, bags never go out of style.
I played vanilla wow back when it came out and never really got to do end game content at all. Will guilds take inexperienced players if they do all the things you laid out here? I'd love to be a part of raids. And thanks for all the videos, they are making me want to play classic so bad.
Only ~ 12, 5 % of all 7 mill subscribers got to do eng game content. Ofc you will found raiding guild. Important question is - do you want it? I started playing on TBC, played last year on Elysium and after I hitted 60 - game suddenly transformed into BFA, I mean I farmed all preraid gear and then there was only - farm gold for raids -> raid -> farm gold for raids -> raid. I was like "Ok, leveling is cool 1000 times cooler than retail, but I leaved BFA cause all I was doing - farm gold and azerite -> raid -> azerite and gold -> raid." I think that WoW in 2005 gathered every casual, that hated MMO, but loved warcraft. Like really - very few guilds on my server in TBC were doing hardcore raiding and I was playing on high pop server. Same goes for all next expansions. I guess 90 % of people always were just doing their own shit instead of end game content. Like running random BGs, gathering etc. I remember how in my guild we had like 30 active members and 70 - 90 that were logging 2 - 3 times per week. An anomaly of a game indeed, game for those who like social aspect of MMO, but hates grind aspect of MMO.
You should start the video witg that Illidan intro, but no visually just put the 'you are not prepared'. What do you think.
there r many errors for BIS Warrior. I prefer the Elysium Guide for Warriors (prot). It also includes Fire and Nature Resistance. But nice Video. I like it.
People are going to realise that they dont have the time to play as they used to have. People aren't going to want to farm longer then to play the actuall content of the game
True. The more I research wow classic I now realize I've forgotten so many details. Especially how much grinding we had to do to raid. It actually almost gives me anxiety to remember the amount of time I put in to Wow.
Yeah. people that were old enough to understand the end game raiding in vanilla have kids/work/wifes today. They will never be able to put the amount of time they used to do in vanilla. I just wish they added the dungeon finder tool. Because if you have a life outside of wow you aren't going to be invited to groups. because people with better gear and more time are going to take those spots.
Great video! But you did leave out one crucial piece of information:
The track you used for the background music. It's very nice. ^.^
added it to the description lol, i forgot to do that...legally im supposed to :D
Love the videos, keep it up
There is a very faint shadow of a picture of a speaker or something similar on the bottom of the screen slightly left from the middle. Anyone else notice that?
jsrf song in the outro. classic
Still listening to the OST on Spotify to this day. I miss that game!! Understand the concept of love!
My server has a low horde pop so I can’t really find any groups. Really bored now that I’m 60
i thought they said there wasn't going to be progressive itemization??
#metoo
There is no progressive itemization meaning items won't change from their 1.0 to 1.5 to 1.12 state but items that only drop when AQ is out for example won't start dropping until the AQ patch.
@@IVeNoMII progressive loottable != progressive itemization, ergo still no progressive itemization in classic.
first thing im gonna do, is get super rich by farming cloth
this man gets it. Every1 and their mom gonna need bags in industrial amounts.
Best content out bro
Endless players eating nothing but Adderall and cereal for weeks will be a thing once again.
Good times
What do you mean "the version we'll be getting"? We are getting the final version of classic, right before TBC, not some old release patch.
some top level dungeon/raid content will not be released right at the release so items from this content will not be available for some time
Dude, why the Tailoring hate? Its the perfect match with Enchanting since you can de the things you make in Tailoring.
Tailoring is a MUST as a cloth
Which professions do you guys reccomend for someone who is going to be doing a combination of PVE and PVP semi-hardcore?
Herb+Alch for consumables? or Mining + Engi for pvp shit?.. I would also like to have some good gold making which makes me lean towards herb+alch.
Solid guide dude. Thank you!
tailoring is great man
Best tip for professions in the early max lvl game, if you play with friends: plan your professions, like you plan you classes, do not stack all the chars on one. Most professions do not have inherent bonuses, which are worth it, at that time in game, but they all have stuff they can do for others. You do not need 5 engineers or 7 enchanters. Make one of your friends the main char for one of the professions and try to pool the mats to them, so they can get high end recipes early. That way they can not only make the expensive enchants, pots and ammo, they can sell those, while they are expensive. You also want to have at least one enchanter, miner, herbalist and skinner in every dungeon run, if applicable. Those mats you get in dungeons are some of the more expensive ones.
Try to make friends with people who have the right professions, if you do not have any. Making friends is almost natural in vanilla.
Your most important investment in early max lvl game is your firendslist, not your gear. Remember good players and try to be remembered by them. Even if you have your 50 people for your raid group ready, it never hurts to have that tank on the friendslist who will run LBRS at 0300 for a recipe you need, because he is bored.
PS. Engineering is the best profession for every class, but it is a gold sink. If you want to main tank or do much of PvP, take it, but expect to put more gold into it, than you will ever get out. Alchemy+herbalism is close second imho, without going tryhard and you can make some nice gold with it. Especially early, using your pots regulary is a huge advantage.
EVERYBODY needs engi btw!
I never played vanilla, i started it Cata but i played thoughout whole of MoP (best expansion) and the only thing i cared about was PvP, (Battlegrounds and Arenas), now i know there are no arenas in vanilla, but is it worth grinding to 60 in vanilla if the only thing im am going to do is PvP?
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@punkrat 15:10 idk on most private servers i played rogues where a meme i farmed full pre bis gear, farmed leatherworking, enchanting and did everything to minmax my gear. Still a lazy mage got spot before me........
Forgot about lionheart helm for BS, bis for a long time
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You forgot the words "nukular" and "aluminum". Also an American exclusive.
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Pretty new to wow and playing hunter right now, aint I suppose to wear mail after lvl 40? Why use leather after 60?
He talked about leatherworking and getting devilsaurs
It was like this all the way up to wotlk. In cata they gave classes a bonus for wearing the gear they are supposed to wear mail for hunters etc but in vanilla TBC and wotlk a warrior could also wear leather because if the stats on the leather item is better then your plate why not?
@@simkont6793 ah thanks!
Are dungeon/tier 0 and tier 0.5 sets any good? (I know tier 0.5 is a massive grind so there is no point going for it if you're going to raid).
Specifically I'm looking to play a hunter, but I don't think I will be joining a raiding guild due to inconsistent timewindows for playing (unable to show up in raids consistently). I will be looking to just farm world content for gold, gank some people for fun, and do a lot of BGs when they are released.
So what I'm wondering is if the hunter dungeon set is worth it? Ofc raid gear is the best, but will I get totally trashed to the ground by anyone in even half MC or BWL gear with my dungeon 4 piece and some pre raid BiS?
And I think hunters are a good class for players without that much gear, since they have a good toolkit for kiting, loads of range. And I hear their dmg is better than most classes when badly geared, but they don't scale as well with gear as other classes. And I thought of going 21 marks for aimedshot crits, range, 5% ranged crit and scatter shot, while specing 30 in survival for 10% max hp, 5% parry, deterrence and the 3% hit, 3% crit, and the huge 15% agi. I feel like those base stats you get from talents kind of compensate for having meh gear.
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When the "Summary" screen popped up I paniced and thought my phone was dying. My stoned brain thought it said "Samsung" like when my phone shuts off 😂
Ubrs was actually a 15man early vanillam