If you have Steph and Magic on the same team. Who are you the most worried about? (Be honest) Of course Magic will get open looks because the defense will be running after Steph because he's a bigger threat than Magic. Despite his height dude gets rebounds too, I dont know how he rebounded well well they're undersized. If Magic was 6'3, he would be just a regular dude compared to if Steph was much taller.🤦🏾♂️ He's higher than Magic on my list. At some point, these old people except MJ will have to be left in the past. We recognize them but we just let them be in their own area. Physically, skillwise they dont match players in today's area.
As a Steph Stan I can sincerely say that we don't care if Steph is on Stephen A Smiths Mount Rushmore. Can't we just celebrate Steph? Wasn't the biggest knock to Steph was him not having a finals MVP? So now we gotta find something else to say about Steph now he's got the finals MVP 🤷🏽♂️🤔
I used to hate curry and the warriors because I love Lebron talent but after some time I had no choice but to love curry and what he brings to the game. I think we witnessed a great rivalry in Lebron and the warriors. I just hate the comparisons because their two different players and have completely different paths
I agree Bill Russell could/should be a Top 10 player but y’all overrating him the guy averaged 15 points on a loaded squad with only a few teams in the league. Chill out on the guy man smh 🤦🏾♂️
Doubters said when Kevin Durant left, Steph Curry would NEVER get back to a Finals. Doubters said he couldn’t be the LEADER of a FINALS TEAM. Doubters said he’d crumble under the pressure of Boston’s no.1 ranked defense. Let it be known he shut up a lot of doubters!
To be fair Mt Rushmore is way more subjective than top 10 or even top 5. It isn't necessarily the best 4 but includes resume plus impact...also really glad that SAS unlike anyone else pointed out Magic's stacked team.
@@trell439 championships are important. but it is how you obtained them, what role, etc. I question Lebron, KD, Curry Champions. There should be a debate show on that.
@@kcorpora1 If you look at the stats Lebron was absolutely the reason Miami won those championships. He led in so many stat categories and was insanely clutch on both ends of the floor, willing the team to victory in many games. You can't say that about the Durant championships where the team basically looked unbeatable.
My thing is greatness is greatness and you shouldn't have to put people on Mount rushmore's. If you're great, you're great. You shouldn't have to be compared to other players who are great
@@flyguy7825they criticized Russell for his era...but don't criticize babe Ruth for only playing against white players and never faced the great black players of that era...
I miss 90s basketball, players weren't always graded daily for their all time placement. Then players got to just play, we didn't talk about career placement til their career was over.
@@BlazerManiacNumber96 I mean he's right all these analysts talk about these players 24/7 and fans just talking trash to each other on the internet. lol
If there is one thing KD is right about it's the media and fans creating narratives and pushing them. Whatever in the moment fits is what's pushed. You can 10 straight years of great basketball and have one bad series and people say you're trash or vice versa.
Unfortunately Steph will never get the credit he deserves. His greatness gets taken for granted. We're so used to seeing him do it for so long. The man can shoot from anywhere. Running at or away from the rim, sideways, doubled, getting fouled. That's not even considering the attention he demands from opposing defenses and how he makes his team better by his unselfishness. Fact is he's too small. He doesn't have the frame to power through or over people unlike others mentioned and in the eyes of many, regardless of how many awards or championships he gets, it will never be enough.
In Mt.Rushmore or not, Curry will forever be remembered as one of the greatest offensive weapon, the greatest 3 point shooter of all time and how he impacted the game is unparalleled..Curry doesnt need to be in that foolish Mt.Rushmore..Curry just needs to be Curry..
As of now. It doesn't matter where Steph is ranked. We just need to know he is one of the best ever. A great champion. And an inspiration for millions. His legacy is set. His career and skills are unique and will never be replicated.
This season is dedicated to those who try to say… 1)GSW washed up and not the same anymore 2)GSW not the same after KD left and will not make finals while KD will dominate with the Nets.
Mount Rushmore isn’t “the best” it’s the men who got us to where we are today. At least the real one is. So in my eyes that’s Lebron, MJ, Steph, and Kareem
Mount Rushmore isn’t “the best” it’s the men who got us to where we are today. At least the real one is. So in my eyes that’s Lebron, MJ, Steph, and Kareem
@@rocheetoile649 Both crucial to the NBA, but I don’t think Bird evolved the game like the other guys. Magic is the next one up in my mind but if we only have 4 spots those are my picks just because I feel like someone else would’ve come along to revolutionize the PG position eventually.
So you leave Magic off your Mt Rushmore because of the teammates he played with but you have Russell on over Wilt while Russell played with 8 other Hall Of Famers while Wilt had none in Philly and 1 for his 2 championships with the Lakers.
It's his Mt Rushmore at the end of the day, mine is Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant. There's many players that can be on Mt. Rushmore but it's your opinion on who you want on it.
At this point lets stop comparing players and making mount Rushmore’s and just appreciate that every generation is fortunate to be able to experience greatness
At the end of the day, none of these commentators contributed to the game like Steph so what they say will never hold any weight. If his peers view him as such, that’s what it is. I enjoy sports commentary for entertainment but I’m not taking their word as law, Curry is a 1st Ballot HOFamer and as he continues to soar he can absolutely be a MT Rushmore player.
I'm glad you brought this up. It's all for entertainment. That's why they all are shook with this New Media movement. Draymond, Pat Bev and others will take over as commentators who they actually played the game (excluding Big Perk, JJ Reddick and JWill), but with an edge and not caring what the masses think.
I think steph should be in the Mount Rushmore because the my Rushmore should be players that have changed the game. Jordan changed the way the game is played. Lebron changed the way the game is played. And curry also changed the way the game is played
They literally changed 5 rules for Wilt. They have changed none for SC. They modified a few for Harden. Changing the game isn't the argument you probably want to hang your hat on.
@@cameronno6039 well teams shoots more 3s than dunking the ball..so he changed the game..shooting 3s is more watch then dunking in this era..thanks to Steph..
Tim didn’t change the game though. That does matter. The reason players no longer play like Tim is because of Steph and his impact. And yes I saw Tim’s entire career.
@@bluewave3417 I get your point... At the same time there hasn't been anyone like TD either ... Fundamentally sound cared about defense and could care less about the spotlight... Name another like him.. Garnett came close but arrogant and loud
Tim Duncan was dominant. 2 Regular season MVPs, 3 Finals MVPs 5 championships.The most accomplished power forward of all time. Time Duncan carried the offense in San Antonio when David Robinson retired he carried the defense in the paint which is why he has 15 All defensive selections. I guess you can say Shaq didnt change the game either.
Perk you GOTTA stop interrupting yourself whenever someone says a single word under their breath... Perk: "Steph Curry is the best PG! I mean-" Someone whispers: "Ok." Perk: "Yeah, yeah, I said best WUTCHU MEAN?!?" like Perk, stop interrupting yourself over every little thing and just keep going!!
1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul Jabbar 4.Magic Johnson 5. Larry Bird 6. Kobe Bryant 7. Shaquille O’Neal 8. Bill Russel 9. Hakeem Olajuwon 10.Stephen Curry
Mt. Rushmore four will always be picky depending on what era you came up in. Most of the newer generation don’t really know the game before 85, on a sophisticated level. The only way to settle this is for the Mt. Rushmore four to wear Olympic medals 🥇 with honorable mentions faces on it 🫡🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
I'm about to go real deep on Wilt's record against Russell, and why it's not exactly a fair comparison. Of Wilt's playoff losses to Russell, 4 of the series went to a game 7. Wilt's teams lost those game 7s by a combined total of 9 points. So these weren't blowouts - these games were decided by one shot. In the first of these 4 series, in 1962, Wilt was playing alongside one other all-star. Russell was playing with another 3. In the second series, in 1965, the count was even with 2 other all-stars apiece, but Wilt had just been traded to that team, they hadn't had time to develop chemistry yet. This was the core of the squad that would beat the Celtics (and win the championship) in '67. In the third of these, Bill had 2 other all-stars to Wilt's 1. In the 4th, Wilt was finally playing with the more talented team - Jerry West and Elgin Baylor to go up against Russell and Havilcek as the lone remaining Boston All-stars. The only problem? Wilt was playing for a coach named Butch van Breda Kolff, who famously hated him and forced him to stay on the bench during the final minutes of a very winnable game 7. van Breda Kolff was fired during that offseason. Now, obviously there were scenarios where Wilt underperformed in the finals. I'm just saying that Bill generally had a lot more help (let's not forget that he also had one of history's greatest coaches) and that it was close despite that extra help.
Yea that's kinda a similar argument to a lot of debates within the top ten players all time. Most people say Wilt was the better individual player, but Russell had the more success, so they end up being about even when it comes to ranking this arbitrary "greatness" that includes skill and accolades. Similar deal with KD vs Curry, where most years KD was the better individual player, but curry has the more success. Or magic vs bird where Magic had more help therefore more championships
Jordan - greatest player of all time Lebron - most versatile player of all time Bill Russell - greatest defensive player of all time. Steph Curry - greatest offensive player of all time. Note: I’m not a curry fan, but his impact and game is undeniable.
curry is the best shooter, MJ, Bron, KAJ, KD, Kobe, Wilt all better scorers. MJ, Bron KD and Kobe have the ability to score all 3 levels. Steph tho is a phenomenal shooter
It’s because they paved the way for the league. You have to really think about it. American sports were dominated but unathletic white men for a while until these pioneers came through… keyword “pioneers”
@@stonedecatur6602 2015 onwards. Every team wants to shoot the 3 now. He killed the era of big men dominating in the post, and instead we saw guards become the cornerstone of franchises (Lillard, Harden, Westbrook). Only recently we see an emergence of big men, and they have to shoot the 3 and/or be extremely multifaceted to build around (Jokic, Embiid, Giannis).
If Durant never hoped ship and he woulda won a title maybe were having a different convo but he will always be tainted by Durant joining , is what it is
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Other players don’t have him there too. Let’s not act like it’s disrespectful to have MJ, LeBron, Kareem, Russell, Magic, Larry, Kobe and Duncan ahead of Curry.
On what list? Iguodala said Curry is the best point guard, that's the only certain thing that Perk can go with - and with Iguodala being teammates with Curry you can take that line with a grain of salt. There's no way Lebron or Wayde has Curry in their top 4 players of all time and they didn't say that at all, Perk reaching on those.
If they stay major injury free, and some of the role players stick around, I don't think it's crazy to think that Curry and the Warriors could have 6 titles by the end of this run.
After a ring and FMVP next year, he’s potential GOAT status. I’m talking top 5 Mount Rushmore level status. Y’all gon get this narrative pushed. Let him win next year. He is coming..in his second prime rn
@@BillyBob-ky2px well he should have 3 mvps rn he got robbed in 2015 and 2018 so he should have three mvps and in 2016 him and bogut were hurt and lebron cried to Adam silver and in 2019 klay went down or else they would have come back from 3-1
I am a Kobe fan and I think the only fixture for an NBA Rushmore are MJ and LeBron. The other 2 spots can be rotated between Magic, Bill, Wilt, Bird, Kobe, Kareem, Duncan, Shaq and Olajuwon depending on player/style preference. Although Steph's achievements are really comparable to most of those players already.
Steph has a better resume than Magic, Kobe and Duncan. You can argue they were better players or you like them more but objectively what Steph has accomplished and how he's changed the game is more impactful than the guys I just mentioned.
@@batssama Magic has *1* more championship than Steph after playing with Kareem Abdull Jabbar who is arguably the 3rd greatest to play the game, in a time period where the West was weak and their competition was the Bird's Celtics in the East. Magic has 3 finals MVP's and Steph has 1, but we can clearly agree Steph was 100% robbed of his first one in 2015. Additionally, Steph didn't win FMVP in 2017 and 2018 but we can still clearly see that the team is built around him and that he was the reason that team was great - look at KD in the Celtics series this year without Curry drawing the defense; they get gentlemen swept. Even if KD puts up a nicer looking statline Curry is the real MVP of the series and driving force behind that teams success. Also, you say Magic revolutionised the PG position but so did Curry. Every team wants to shoot the 3 now, he made big men irrelevant even though they were the most important players for almost all of basketball history prior to Curry. If you want to be a star centre int he current league, you have to be extremely multifaceted like Jokic, Embiid, Giannis. Finally, the biggest reason I put Curry above Magic is intangibles and factors you can't put on paper. Magic is flashy but Curry's the most selfless superstar in history. Just because he doesn't get the assist doesn't mean he didn't create for his team. He averages 6.5 assists for his career but what about all those points that are created just because he's on the floor? He creates so much space and even if the official assist doesn't belong to him he creates much more for his teamates through the spacing he creates and his willingness to move the ball until it reaches a teamate that is open because of him. Russel Westbrook is the opposite; a guy that will only pass with the intention of getting the assist, not a true creator like Curry.
I think people are too nostalgic about the past, like we are when we think of our childhood. You don't wanna admit it but Curry is objectively better than Magic and has also changed the game. He creates just as much for his team if not moreso through his presence on the floor and unselfish basketball, and that's why people overlook him. It's the same for Tim Duncan. Duncan was a 5 time champion, 3x FMVP, 2x MVP, and the cornerstone of his franchise, yet he barely cracks the top 10 list for most people because he isn't flashy. Meanwhile, Kobe who played 2nd fiddle to Shaq for 3 of the chips he won is ranked higher than Duncan on almost every list, some people even put him on NBA mount rushmore. And this is just because he's flashy and they get nostalgic thinking about him. Selfless players don't get the recognition they're due for because they're less flashy, but Magic is more appealing because "showtime"
Stephen held Magic playing with stars against him but Lebron has played with more superstars and top 75 hall of fame talent than anybody else in League history and he didn’t hold that against him. Inconsistency is what I don’t like
@@nbassasin8092 well if he wins another chip, let’s be honest, his accolades still doesn’t put in in the same place as Bron, MJ, Kareem, Magic, Duncan, Kobe. He would have similar rings, but everything else is still inferior. Lemme be honest with you, my issue with Steph is this, Lebron, Kobe, Wilt, Russell, MJ, Kareem I have seen some part of the media, Journalist, teammates, former players, and current players make a case at one point that one of those is the best basketball player ever. Like, someone at some point has said Kobe, MJ, LeBron, Kareem, Wilt, Russell is the best ever, whether we agree or not. On all these debates in the media or players about Steph, no one has ever even stated or tried to make the argument is the best basketball player ever. That tells us something. Steph biggest ticket to top 5 ever is he changed the game, and that for me cannot put him top 5, because in the moment, those things are overvalued. 50 years from now, it would not matter as much as, how much rings, FMVP, MVP do u have. How many total points, assists, rebounds do u have and how many records is your name one. In that regards, Steph has only three points records going for him, and it will be hard, 20 years from now for people to say he is top 5 ever just because of that.
Think about it... when Kobe became the 1st player to do 30k pts 6k assist and 6k rebs the media show or sports analysts said nothing...they made a bigger deal about lebron passing Kobe in scoring than they did Kobe passing mj...I understand Kobe isn't everyone's cup of tea but the disrespect was always kinda real
Is this the same SAS that said Kevin Durant is the best player in the world?! That he is better than LeBron and Steph?! How is it that KD is not on the top 10? Steph is better than KD! Steph can just sit on the court and draw two defenders on himself!
u realise lebron is better than bird right? steph gawkers and warriors fanboys are so cringy bro cry to people about giving ur boyfriend his props but act butthurt when bringng up lebron even tho u know hes top 2
Also Wilt was a post season loser. He was carried to his rings. Wasn't even the best or 2nd best scorer in his teams in the playoffs believe it or not.
lol these narratives are crazy somehow 1 ring got curry from top 20 to top 10 and according to u if he wins another 1 it will get him to top 5. what exactly did we learn from curry in this championship that we didn't already know from the 2015,2017,2018 ones? if anything he played worse and the team all together played worse. so that just means one thing the competition wasnt up to par.
The people on Mount Rushmore changed and help create the country we live today… Steph changed the game of basketball with the way he shoots from three point land. He’s the literal example of someone who changed the game of basketball.
jay williams is clearly biased. Steph moves on ball and off ball like no one we’ve ever seen. yes he’s the greatest shooter of all time but he’s also the best mover we’ve ever seen too.. he’s literally running circles around everyone out there and he can also be an assist god. so Jay will, how does it make sense to have 4 big guys represented on mt rushmore but no little guys?
I would say this should be the top 5 list based purely off position during a time when basketball was at the highest levels. No disrespect to Bill and Wilt, but they played in an era of 8-10 teams. PG: Magic Johnson SG: MJ PF: Tim Duncan SF: Lebron C: Kareem
If Perk was a Lawyer, ALL his clients would be convicts!
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Facts 😂
If you have Steph and Magic on the same team. Who are you the most worried about? (Be honest) Of course Magic will get open looks because the defense will be running after Steph because he's a bigger threat than Magic. Despite his height dude gets rebounds too, I dont know how he rebounded well well they're undersized. If Magic was 6'3, he would be just a regular dude compared to if Steph was much taller.🤦🏾♂️ He's higher than Magic on my list. At some point, these old people except MJ will have to be left in the past. We recognize them but we just let them be in their own area. Physically, skillwise they dont match players in today's area.
As a Steph Stan I can sincerely say that we don't care if Steph is on Stephen A Smiths Mount Rushmore. Can't we just celebrate Steph? Wasn't the biggest knock to Steph was him not having a finals MVP? So now we gotta find something else to say about Steph now he's got the finals MVP 🤷🏽♂️🤔
warriors Champions again next year and the year after that
curry greatest player of all time and getting greater he is mount rush more
I used to hate curry and the warriors because I love Lebron talent but after some time I had no choice but to love curry and what he brings to the game. I think we witnessed a great rivalry in Lebron and the warriors. I just hate the comparisons because their two different players and have completely different paths
Finals mvp was the argument vs him not being a top 10 player. Top 4 is different.
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I agree Bill Russell could/should be a Top 10 player but y’all overrating him the guy averaged 15 points on a loaded squad with only a few teams in the league. Chill out on the guy man smh 🤦🏾♂️
I bet you can’t name anyone else on that “loaded” squad without looking it up 🤷♂️
@@topsykretts2264 Bob Cousy…
@@mitchellajieroh John Havelecik
@@topsykretts2264 sam jones
Facts
Doubters said when Kevin Durant left, Steph Curry would NEVER get back to a Finals. Doubters said he couldn’t be the LEADER of a FINALS TEAM. Doubters said he’d crumble under the pressure of Boston’s no.1 ranked defense.
Let it be known he shut up a lot of doubters!
I'm a Knicks fan.. He sure did!
Took him forever
@@ramzitg2357 Okay Gordan Ramzi.
No other team won while putting up 100 threes a game.
@@ramzitg2357 but he got the job done.🤷♂
To be fair Mt Rushmore is way more subjective than top 10 or even top 5. It isn't necessarily the best 4 but includes resume plus impact...also really glad that SAS unlike anyone else pointed out Magic's stacked team.
Lebron chased Championships
@@kcorpora1 it’s almost as if championships are the entire point of the sport haha
@@trell439 championships are important. but it is how you obtained them, what role, etc.
I question Lebron, KD, Curry Champions. There should be a debate show on that.
@@kcorpora1 If you look at the stats Lebron was absolutely the reason Miami won those championships. He led in so many stat categories and was insanely clutch on both ends of the floor, willing the team to victory in many games. You can't say that about the Durant championships where the team basically looked unbeatable.
@@johnhachey9239 and the reason they lost them 2
“Do we have listening skills” 😂😂
I laughed so hard when he said that
i was just about to comment that lol bro was fed up
I totally get what Perk is saying. Greatness is greatness and people have their own way of showing appreciation for that 🧡
My thing is greatness is greatness and you shouldn't have to put people on Mount rushmore's. If you're great, you're great. You shouldn't have to be compared to other players who are great
curry greatest player of all time and getting greater he is mount rush more
What's up perk where is your mouth now Boston sucks
@@flyguy7825 Nothing wrong with healthy comparison, its natural human behavior to help you become the best version of yourself.
@@flyguy7825they criticized Russell for his era...but don't criticize babe Ruth for only playing against white players and never faced the great black players of that era...
I miss 90s basketball, players weren't always graded daily for their all time placement. Then players got to just play, we didn't talk about career placement til their career was over.
This has mad boomer energy
@@BlazerManiacNumber96 I mean he's right all these analysts talk about these players 24/7 and fans just talking trash to each other on the internet. lol
@@RiruKrypto_ I don't disagree. Just the phrase "I miss 90's baskerball" is pretty cringey lol
@@BlazerManiacNumber96 what a newbie
If there is one thing KD is right about it's the media and fans creating narratives and pushing them. Whatever in the moment fits is what's pushed.
You can 10 straight years of great basketball and have one bad series and people say you're trash or vice versa.
curry broke the 3 point record, won all star mvp, won conference finals mvp, won the championship and final mvp all in one season!
And he graduated college!
Hakeem the Dream won mvp,dpoy,championship and finals mvp all in 1 year.
Yeah, won the ASG but Lebron won the game last shot 🤷🏻♀️ Curry always disappear when the team needs him the most !!, 💅🏼
@@latinaforever4892 tf u talking about go watch the NBA finals 2022 smh your probably another skip Bayless
@@latinaforever4892 at this point your logic is Blake Griffin is better then Michael Jordan smh
Wth is Stephen A Smith talking about the 60’s 😂😂😂 cmon bro
He has to bring up racial issues in every conversation that’s why
Exactly we don’t care about that in these times lol
Poor Perk was agitated with Jay and Stephen A lmao!
I’m tired Of the Kobe disrespect
Mannnn
Okay get some rest.
Unfortunately Steph will never get the credit he deserves. His greatness gets taken for granted. We're so used to seeing him do it for so long. The man can shoot from anywhere. Running at or away from the rim, sideways, doubled, getting fouled. That's not even considering the attention he demands from opposing defenses and how he makes his team better by his unselfishness.
Fact is he's too small. He doesn't have the frame to power through or over people unlike others mentioned and in the eyes of many, regardless of how many awards or championships he gets, it will never be enough.
Perk asking if there are listening skills on the show is a very valid question.
Yeah, but not coming from him 😂
Bro this is a weird take! Steph just won his 4th chip. Leave the man alone, just appreciate his greatness
In Mt.Rushmore or not, Curry will forever be remembered as one of the greatest offensive weapon, the greatest 3 point shooter of all time and how he impacted the game is unparalleled..Curry doesnt need to be in that foolish Mt.Rushmore..Curry just needs to be Curry..
@Content Pirate lol
@Content Pirate Chill
@Content Pirate facts
Perk when he doesn’t have a counter argument makes for some of the funniest takes 🤣😂🤣
As of now. It doesn't matter where Steph is ranked. We just need to know he is one of the best ever. A great champion. And an inspiration for millions. His legacy is set. His career and skills are unique and will never be replicated.
If he wins another one next year, I'd put him 2nd greatest all time
This season is dedicated to those who try to say…
1)GSW washed up and not the same anymore
2)GSW not the same after KD left and will not make finals while KD will dominate with the Nets.
I didnt even know people said no2
Forgetting steph beat kd several times when he was with okc. That's why he left in the first place.
@@Idonthaveahandke they played just once in the playoffs though
@@Idonthaveahandke they only beat them once
This the only credible championship they won. Every other chip was by default
1:25 KP got real emotional about Vietnam. Respect
No he didn’t, he does the same thing at 2:35
@@conceitedfication what is bro talking about 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@kiwavy foo trippin 🤣🤣🤣
@@conceitedfication on god 😭💀
Only team that could face a healthy Warriors is 96 Bulls
LBJ 2016s Cavs actually beat them🤦🏽♂️ Do you think b4 you even write something? They were 73-9 and fully healthy. 💯
@@christiantorres8220 You gotta remember the gift nba gave lebron during that series lol
@@Joker-jz9cn Whay the back to back 41 point games 🤡
The Warriors had Draymond for game 6 and 7 and they still lost
@@Joker-jz9cn if thays the case why did GS beg KD to join them. If they were so confident they could beat LBJ and Kyrie🤡🤔
As a Basketball fan from Europe I read the title and thought: "who cares what Stephen A. says?
You care that’s why you’re watching
@@harrissr.615 exactly lmao.
clearly you thats why your here. like it or not the guy has been studying the game for almost 40 years, he knows better than you.
“Do we have listening skills” 😂
MJ, Lebron, Kareem, Wilt
That's the Mount Rushmore because for many years they were widely recognized as the best player in the world
Mount Rushmore isn’t “the best” it’s the men who got us to where we are today. At least the real one is. So in my eyes that’s Lebron, MJ, Steph, and Kareem
Mount Rushmore isn’t “the best” it’s the men who got us to where we are today. At least the real one is. So in my eyes that’s Lebron, MJ, Steph, and Kareem
@@eddietonore2813 ''The men who got us where we are today.'' and you don't have Magic or Bird?
@@eddietonore2813 technically Magic and Larry saved the game in the 80s… and without Russell there are no MJs, Kareem’s, Bron’s, etc..
@@rocheetoile649 Both crucial to the NBA, but I don’t think Bird evolved the game like the other guys. Magic is the next one up in my mind but if we only have 4 spots those are my picks just because I feel like someone else would’ve come along to revolutionize the PG position eventually.
Kobe needs to be on the Mount Rushmore he’s on mines
Nah.
Nah.
No
He should be bro.
Kobe is a worse version of MJ, don't need 2 of them
Perk speaking facts right here for once
he been on a roll last few months lol
lmao whaaat? perk didn't even address the question
Fr they be thinking that there Mount Rushmore means something more then the players
@@kentekuzan there wasn't a question to begin with lmao it was a discussion.
So you leave Magic off your Mt Rushmore because of the teammates he played with but you have Russell on over Wilt while Russell played with 8 other Hall Of Famers while Wilt had none in Philly and 1 for his 2 championships with the Lakers.
Hal Greer is in HOF.
Wilt played with 9 Hall of Famers.
@@reyesrn1935 he averaged 50 points in a season tho regardless of playing against welders or firefighters lol. 50
Wilt is in a different category than even MJ in my opinion!! Google him and his all time records!!!!
It's his Mt Rushmore at the end of the day, mine is Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant.
There's many players that can be on Mt. Rushmore but it's your opinion on who you want on it.
Perk: do you have listening stills?
At this point lets stop comparing players and making mount Rushmore’s and just appreciate that every generation is fortunate to be able to experience greatness
never happening
That doesn’t play well on socials so that will never come to pass in this current day and age.
shut up it’s literally a show for entertainment everyone is still enjoying their greatness
Brah it’s all for fun they all know these players are great they are here to debate
At the end of the day, none of these commentators contributed to the game like Steph so what they say will never hold any weight. If his peers view him as such, that’s what it is. I enjoy sports commentary for entertainment but I’m not taking their word as law, Curry is a 1st Ballot HOFamer and as he continues to soar he can absolutely be a MT Rushmore player.
But at the end of the day, they still get paid lots of money to give their 2 cents.
I'm glad you brought this up. It's all for entertainment. That's why they all are shook with this New Media movement. Draymond, Pat Bev and others will take over as commentators who they actually played the game (excluding Big Perk, JJ Reddick and JWill), but with an edge and not caring what the masses think.
do we have hearing issues? 😂
Perk like: I thought I had finish school 20 years ago 1:28 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
I think steph should be in the Mount Rushmore because the my Rushmore should be players that have changed the game. Jordan changed the way the game is played. Lebron changed the way the game is played. And curry also changed the way the game is played
They literally changed 5 rules for Wilt. They have changed none for SC. They modified a few for Harden. Changing the game isn't the argument you probably want to hang your hat on.
To be on the Mount Rushmore you have to have more than 4 all NBA 1st team selections
@@cameronno6039 well teams shoots more 3s than dunking the ball..so he changed the game..shooting 3s is more watch then dunking in this era..thanks to Steph..
if someone like Tim Duncan who has more accolades and rings then Steph isn't on Mt Rushmore.. Steph is good but I agree with SAS
Tim didn’t change the game though. That does matter. The reason players no longer play like Tim is because of Steph and his impact. And yes I saw Tim’s entire career.
@@bluewave3417 I get your point... At the same time there hasn't been anyone like TD either ... Fundamentally sound cared about defense and could care less about the spotlight... Name another like him.. Garnett came close but arrogant and loud
Tim Duncan was dominant. 2 Regular season MVPs, 3 Finals MVPs 5 championships.The most accomplished power forward of all time. Time Duncan carried the offense in San Antonio when David Robinson retired he carried the defense in the paint which is why he has 15 All defensive selections. I guess you can say Shaq didnt change the game either.
@@jamesvzfighter well said 💯👏🏼
I have tim in my mount rushmore, over wilt that is
Perk looks high as heck!
He’s definitely in the top 10 players of all time
Na he’s like 12
@@krndevil313 it’s arguable, I’d put him in the 10 spot
No way kid. Who you taking out, Lebron? Lol
@@supervong1 Russell and Wilt. Hakeem is there at 8, 9 shaq then Curry
I'd take out Oscar Robertson
Perk you GOTTA stop interrupting yourself whenever someone says a single word under their breath...
Perk: "Steph Curry is the best PG! I mean-"
Someone whispers: "Ok."
Perk: "Yeah, yeah, I said best WUTCHU MEAN?!?"
like Perk, stop interrupting yourself over every little thing and just keep going!!
Fr
He a little sensitive
Yes he does be doing that lol
If one person has to go from the top 10 is Oscar Robertson
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
4.Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Shaquille O’Neal
8. Bill Russel
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10.Stephen Curry
NBA Mount Rushmore -
• Jordan
• Kobe
• Russell
• Kareem
Steph curry is not just a shooter, he handles the basketball better than any player alive
Kyrie is the greatest handler of all time, curry ain’t on that level of handles. I’d take Crawford Ai and kyrie before steph
Mt. Rushmore four will always be picky depending on what era you came up in. Most of the newer generation don’t really know the game before 85, on a sophisticated level. The only way to settle this is for the Mt. Rushmore four to wear Olympic medals 🥇 with honorable mentions faces on it 🫡🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
I grew up watching Jordan but I agree with SA
Im 22 and my Mt. Rushmore is mj lbj kareem and magic
Perk lookin straight hungover
Ya he looks horrible lol
I'm about to go real deep on Wilt's record against Russell, and why it's not exactly a fair comparison.
Of Wilt's playoff losses to Russell, 4 of the series went to a game 7. Wilt's teams lost those game 7s by a combined total of 9 points. So these weren't blowouts - these games were decided by one shot.
In the first of these 4 series, in 1962, Wilt was playing alongside one other all-star. Russell was playing with another 3.
In the second series, in 1965, the count was even with 2 other all-stars apiece, but Wilt had just been traded to that team, they hadn't had time to develop chemistry yet. This was the core of the squad that would beat the Celtics (and win the championship) in '67.
In the third of these, Bill had 2 other all-stars to Wilt's 1.
In the 4th, Wilt was finally playing with the more talented team - Jerry West and Elgin Baylor to go up against Russell and Havilcek as the lone remaining Boston All-stars. The only problem? Wilt was playing for a coach named Butch van Breda Kolff, who famously hated him and forced him to stay on the bench during the final minutes of a very winnable game 7. van Breda Kolff was fired during that offseason.
Now, obviously there were scenarios where Wilt underperformed in the finals. I'm just saying that Bill generally had a lot more help (let's not forget that he also had one of history's greatest coaches) and that it was close despite that extra help.
wow. never knew that about Kolff not letting Wilt back in the game. Horrible.
Very good points!
Yea that's kinda a similar argument to a lot of debates within the top ten players all time. Most people say Wilt was the better individual player, but Russell had the more success, so they end up being about even when it comes to ranking this arbitrary "greatness" that includes skill and accolades. Similar deal with KD vs Curry, where most years KD was the better individual player, but curry has the more success. Or magic vs bird where Magic had more help therefore more championships
you wasted your life to type all that
@@AnicolasHardy you wasted yours to type that
Steph literally changed how and where guys shoot the ball from lol
@SuperPunch76 you’re right it makes him the greatest player of all time
@@JohnDoe-og1ur lmao what .so curry is the GOAT curry fans??🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@JohnDoe-og1ur bruh got finally 1 finals mvp and his fans acting like steph is the GOAT what a delusional
@@budrud it’s okay you’re just a jealous hater who cannot accept greatness but being a hater must run in your bloodline so I don’t blame you✌️
Jordan - greatest player of all time
Lebron - most versatile player of all time
Bill Russell - greatest defensive player of all time.
Steph Curry - greatest offensive player of all time.
Note: I’m not a curry fan, but his impact and game is undeniable.
What offensive stats is Steph #1 in other than 3 pointers?
curry is the best shooter, MJ, Bron, KAJ, KD, Kobe, Wilt all better scorers. MJ, Bron KD and Kobe have the ability to score all 3 levels. Steph tho is a phenomenal shooter
The overvalue of some of these older players is ridiculous haha
Smh , they will not give Kobe the respect he deserves. Absolutely ridiculous
It’s because they paved the way for the league. You have to really think about it. American sports were dominated but unathletic white men for a while until these pioneers came through… keyword “pioneers”
Stephen changed the game
How? And what year?
@@stonedecatur6602 2015 onwards. Every team wants to shoot the 3 now. He killed the era of big men dominating in the post, and instead we saw guards become the cornerstone of franchises (Lillard, Harden, Westbrook). Only recently we see an emergence of big men, and they have to shoot the 3 and/or be extremely multifaceted to build around (Jokic, Embiid, Giannis).
Not sure we can easily remove Larry Bird from top 10. 3 time champ (2 fmvp), 3 mvps, 9 time all nba 1st team, Come on now
Larry legend is 5th or 6th in my eyes no way I'm removing him for steph who BTW I believe he's 12th all time
@@aggelostzimagiorgis good thing your opinion don't matter. Curry at 12 is ludacris. Curry is 8th
@@mmsmith3341 and your opinion does ? 😂
@@DeeboGreen i'd say general consensus is the big O gotta get bumped out to let curry in
@@DeeboGreen no but me putting curry top 10 is way more sane
How is Steph so great but still underrated
Steph has just been placed on mt. Rushmore by Perk, with one questionable finals MVP. And underrated?
If Durant never hoped ship and he woulda won a title maybe were having a different convo but he will always be tainted by Durant joining , is what it is
That boy perk tired lol 😂
“Do we have listening skills”😂😂😂😂😂😂. Perk is a national treasure😂.
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Interesting other great NBA players have Steph on their list, while "analysts" refuse to put him there. They're purposely being stubborn 😄
Other players don’t have him there too. Let’s not act like it’s disrespectful to have MJ, LeBron, Kareem, Russell, Magic, Larry, Kobe and Duncan ahead of Curry.
On what list? Iguodala said Curry is the best point guard, that's the only certain thing that Perk can go with - and with Iguodala being teammates with Curry you can take that line with a grain of salt. There's no way Lebron or Wayde has Curry in their top 4 players of all time and they didn't say that at all, Perk reaching on those.
Perk faces when Steve is talking is hunny
Perk looks like he's ready for a nap 🤣 Stephen talking his head off
If they stay major injury free, and some of the role players stick around, I don't think it's crazy to think that Curry and the Warriors could have 6 titles by the end of this run.
Perk was on go!!!😂😂😂
Remove larry bird? Lmao nice try
What? You never take Larry Bird out in top 10.
Kobe 🤔
After a ring and FMVP next year, he’s potential GOAT status. I’m talking top 5 Mount Rushmore level status. Y’all gon get this narrative pushed. Let him win next year. He is coming..in his second prime rn
ongg
You can't just add a 5th person to the Mount Rushmore. Otherwise it's not the Mount Rushmore.
Zero defense, glass ankles aaand carried by role player Iguodala...Not even top 10. Also blew a 3-1 lead. 🤡
He isn’t jumping up to top 5 even after a ring next year
@@BillyBob-ky2px well he should have 3 mvps rn he got robbed in 2015 and 2018 so he should have three mvps and in 2016 him and bogut were hurt and lebron cried to Adam silver and in 2019 klay went down or else they would have come back from 3-1
Perk had me dying
Why isn't First Take covering Montrezl Harrell's weed news??? I'm still waiting for Stephen A Smith rant!!!!!
I am a Kobe fan and I think the only fixture for an NBA Rushmore are MJ and LeBron. The other 2 spots can be rotated between Magic, Bill, Wilt, Bird, Kobe, Kareem, Duncan, Shaq and Olajuwon depending on player/style preference. Although Steph's achievements are really comparable to most of those players already.
Thank you
Kobe is ahead of lebron to me
Curry is not on Mount Rushmore or top 5 all time yet.
Cuz he’s better than all of them
@@BK-zf6jh Nah it's cause he's not as good, well rounded, or accomplished as the players on Mount Rushmore.
Wilt rebounded 22 points per game? That’s a wild stat ngl
With plumbers
I'm sorry Mr. Smith, to leave Kobe off of Mt. Rushmore?? yall have become delusion. just cuz he's deceased doesn't mean you forget about him 🙄
I kind of agree with that Mount Rushmore, those players had the most impact on their generation for the longest amount of time respectfully.
But Steph has dominated Lebron so called era
A healthy GSW is unstoppable
they lost to lebron and Kyrie healthy now if you talk about the kd warriors version that’s a different story.
Leave W. Chamberlain...out? No way.
So this is gonna be the conversation until football season begins-gotcha lol
Mount Rushmore would be top 4 of all time. Jordan, Kareem, Magic, Bill Russell, Duncan, Kobe, Lebron. Hasn't passed them for sure.
He has passed magic for sure steph best pg all time
Steph has a better resume than Magic, Kobe and Duncan. You can argue they were better players or you like them more but objectively what Steph has accomplished and how he's changed the game is more impactful than the guys I just mentioned.
@@batssama Magic has *1* more championship than Steph after playing with Kareem Abdull Jabbar who is arguably the 3rd greatest to play the game, in a time period where the West was weak and their competition was the Bird's Celtics in the East. Magic has 3 finals MVP's and Steph has 1, but we can clearly agree Steph was 100% robbed of his first one in 2015. Additionally, Steph didn't win FMVP in 2017 and 2018 but we can still clearly see that the team is built around him and that he was the reason that team was great - look at KD in the Celtics series this year without Curry drawing the defense; they get gentlemen swept. Even if KD puts up a nicer looking statline Curry is the real MVP of the series and driving force behind that teams success.
Also, you say Magic revolutionised the PG position but so did Curry. Every team wants to shoot the 3 now, he made big men irrelevant even though they were the most important players for almost all of basketball history prior to Curry. If you want to be a star centre int he current league, you have to be extremely multifaceted like Jokic, Embiid, Giannis.
Finally, the biggest reason I put Curry above Magic is intangibles and factors you can't put on paper. Magic is flashy but Curry's the most selfless superstar in history. Just because he doesn't get the assist doesn't mean he didn't create for his team. He averages 6.5 assists for his career but what about all those points that are created just because he's on the floor? He creates so much space and even if the official assist doesn't belong to him he creates much more for his teamates through the spacing he creates and his willingness to move the ball until it reaches a teamate that is open because of him. Russel Westbrook is the opposite; a guy that will only pass with the intention of getting the assist, not a true creator like Curry.
I think people are too nostalgic about the past, like we are when we think of our childhood. You don't wanna admit it but Curry is objectively better than Magic and has also changed the game. He creates just as much for his team if not moreso through his presence on the floor and unselfish basketball, and that's why people overlook him. It's the same for Tim Duncan. Duncan was a 5 time champion, 3x FMVP, 2x MVP, and the cornerstone of his franchise, yet he barely cracks the top 10 list for most people because he isn't flashy. Meanwhile, Kobe who played 2nd fiddle to Shaq for 3 of the chips he won is ranked higher than Duncan on almost every list, some people even put him on NBA mount rushmore. And this is just because he's flashy and they get nostalgic thinking about him. Selfless players don't get the recognition they're due for because they're less flashy, but Magic is more appealing because "showtime"
Bird in peak prime is better than Kobe Magic Russell Steph...
Curry is still active in the league so yeah, he isn't on there yet because he's still making a case 🤷🏿♂️
Stephen held Magic playing with stars against him but Lebron has played with more superstars and top 75 hall of fame talent than anybody else in League history and he didn’t hold that against him. Inconsistency is what I don’t like
molly was mourning at the end lul
So Disrespectful to Kobe wow .
Stephen A makes a great point. I won’t have Steph top 4 or top 5.
What if the BOI wins another chip?
@@nbassasin8092 so who would you replaced?
@@xpact83 I'm just asking if him winning the 5th would make a difference
@@nbassasin8092 well if he wins another chip, let’s be honest, his accolades still doesn’t put in in the same place as Bron, MJ, Kareem, Magic, Duncan, Kobe. He would have similar rings, but everything else is still inferior.
Lemme be honest with you, my issue with Steph is this,
Lebron, Kobe, Wilt, Russell, MJ, Kareem
I have seen some part of the media, Journalist, teammates, former players, and current players make a case at one point that one of those is the best basketball player ever. Like, someone at some point has said Kobe, MJ, LeBron, Kareem, Wilt, Russell is the best ever, whether we agree or not.
On all these debates in the media or players about Steph, no one has ever even stated or tried to make the argument is the best basketball player ever. That tells us something.
Steph biggest ticket to top 5 ever is he changed the game, and that for me cannot put him top 5, because in the moment, those things are overvalued. 50 years from now, it would not matter as much as, how much rings, FMVP, MVP do u have. How many total points, assists, rebounds do u have and how many records is your name one. In that regards, Steph has only three points records going for him, and it will be hard, 20 years from now for people to say he is top 5 ever just because of that.
Greatest PG of all time in my book.
Let Perk speak ya'll. He's not saying these things, he's bringing them up. Let the man finish then rebuttle, dayum, haha. Go Warriors!
We don’t speak about Kobe enough real snap
Think about it... when Kobe became the 1st player to do 30k pts 6k assist and 6k rebs the media show or sports analysts said nothing...they made a bigger deal about lebron passing Kobe in scoring than they did Kobe passing mj...I understand Kobe isn't everyone's cup of tea but the disrespect was always kinda real
nah shii he isn’t top 4 lmao
Kobe Bryant really Steven A Smith
Is perk ok?
Nah he picked Celtics and now he looks bad bc he was wrong 😂 and he was on them cavs teams when they faced the Warriors in the finals he bitter 😂😂😭
Most of Bill Russell's titles came with only 8 teams in the league. His last title had only 14 teams in the league.
So why didn't those other teams win? They only had 7 opponents too.
@@peskypesky Celtics were the most stacked team during that era
@@Rexlee1123 but would they have won all those championships without Russell? No.
Is this the same SAS that said Kevin Durant is the best player in the world?! That he is better than LeBron and Steph?! How is it that KD is not on the top 10? Steph is better than KD! Steph can just sit on the court and draw two defenders on himself!
PG- Curry
SG- MJ
SF- Bird
PF- Rodman
C- Shaq
This starting 5 doesn’t lose. Any era. Change my mind!
u realise lebron is better than bird right? steph gawkers and warriors fanboys are so cringy bro cry to people about giving ur boyfriend his props but act butthurt when bringng up lebron even tho u know hes top 2
Magic
Kobe
LeBron
Duncan
Kareem
Best of 7 26 chips right here over 15 MVPs
Stephen Anita Smith isn’t on my Mount Rushmore of First Take analyst
If Steph wins 1 more ring he is on Mt. Rushmore
Bill Russell ain't no mount Rushmore or top 10 player.
He top 10 in acomplishments
For 1960s players he was.
This. Weird af how they praise wilt and bill when they played in 3 round playoffs and mailman
Dawg wth was perk even getting at in this segment lmao
1.) Jordan - 6 rings, 6 FMVPs, 5 MVPs.
2.) Kareem - 6 rings, 2 FMVPs, 6 MVPs.
3.) Bron - 4 rings, 4 FMVPs, 4 MVPs.
4.) Magic - 5 rings, 3 FMVPs, 3 MVPs.
5.) Duncan - 5 rings, 3 FMVPs, 2 MVPs.
6.) Kobe - 5 rings, 2 FMVPs, 1 MVP.
7.) Shaq - 4 rings, 3 FMVPs, 1 MVP.
8.) Bird - 3 rings, 2 FMVPs, 3 MVPs.
9.) Curry - 4 rings, 1 FMVP, 2 MVPs.
10.) Hakeem - 2 rings, 2 FMVPs, 1 MVP.
I'm not ranking Wilt and Bill in my top 10 because they're simply to big of an outlier. Era was far too different with 8 teams.
Also Wilt was a post season loser. He was carried to his rings. Wasn't even the best or 2nd best scorer in his teams in the playoffs believe it or not.
I mean I don't watch Steph because he's a top 5 All-time I watch because he's fun. Steph will have to win another ring if he wants to be in that top 5
lol these narratives are crazy somehow 1 ring got curry from top 20 to top 10 and according to u if he wins another 1 it will get him to top 5. what exactly did we learn from curry in this championship that we didn't already know from the 2015,2017,2018 ones? if anything he played worse and the team all together played worse. so that just means one thing the competition wasnt up to par.
And he will and still say he’s not top 4
Curry is Top 2 offensive player ever.. despite being 6’3 .. in terms of gravity and most lethal he is No. 1
Kobe and mj? How is he top 2?
Ever heard of MJ? Lol curry is no where near as lethal as MJ.
no bro, delete this comment
Nowhere near kobe and mj
I’m only putting MJ ahead of him as a offensive weapon .. Kobe 3rd
Ahahahah PERK has really found his plug for life.
Top 10
1. Jordan
2. LeBron
3. Kobe
4. Kareem
5. Magic
6. Russell
7. Wilt
8. Duncan
9. Shaq
10. Curry
11. Bird
Nice list
Steph is not better than Larry Bird.
The people on Mount Rushmore changed and help create the country we live today… Steph changed the game of basketball with the way he shoots from three point land. He’s the literal example of someone who changed the game of basketball.
Based on that rationale James harden would be on Mt. Rushmore. I see your point, but I think it’s a little more complex than that.
@@charlesjones190 why James harden? And yeah I get it’s flawed but I always hated how they said that.
@@lochnloaded6905 drawing fouls and rule changes on whats a shooting foul. aswell as the stepback.
@@gvgaming3603 And what else has James Harden accomplished besides an MVP and all star appearances?
@@charlesjones190 just stop
jay williams is clearly biased. Steph moves on ball and off ball like no one we’ve ever seen. yes he’s the greatest shooter of all time but he’s also the best mover we’ve ever seen too.. he’s literally running circles around everyone out there and he can also be an assist god. so Jay will, how does it make sense to have 4 big guys represented on mt rushmore but no little guys?
Why are these guys so damned serious about the top 10...
I would say this should be the top 5 list based purely off position during a time when basketball was at the highest levels. No disrespect to Bill and Wilt, but they played in an era of 8-10 teams.
PG: Magic Johnson
SG: MJ
PF: Tim Duncan
SF: Lebron
C: Kareem