Could've Been Bigger Than Lil Wayne! What Stunted JUELZ SANTANA's Growth?

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  • Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
  • In the early 2000s, The diplomats had one of my favorite artist of all time in Cam'ron. They also had a younger version of him that I could relate to and grew watching his rise. He was expected to be much bigger than he eventually became, and had the talent and everything else to do that. But he had so much going on around him, so much fueds within the camp and outside that the game left him froze and eventually his fans just moved on or grew to focus on other things.
    One thing's for sure is that Juelz was an original, even though he and Cam had so many similarities, you could tell he was his own kind of rapper. I love him coming up and hope he gets it going again, but for these reasons, his Growth was Stunted.. Enjoy.
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  • @stuntedgrowthmusic
    @stuntedgrowthmusic  3 года назад +203

    Could Juelz have been a bigger artist?

    • @jbindazone8849
      @jbindazone8849 3 года назад +29

      Not Wayne but he could have been the face of dipset for sure but he and camron were always neck and neck.

    • @michaelcarlock5493
      @michaelcarlock5493 3 года назад +6

      That's a good question. But yeah he should have been bigger..but as you know..egos are a mutha..i..dont think Juelz realized how good he was...i truly dont...when the ROC and DIP SET beefed?...there were casualties on both sides...DIP SET had a stable of dope artists..so did the ROC..but nobody had the answer to the question...WHAT WAS THESE CATS SUPPOSED TO DO?...it was messed up on so many levels..dudes careers were doomed..and it was of no fault of their own..it was and is a shame..because if any MC in the mid 2000s who got swagger jacked?..it was JUELZ...and i understand he did songs with FIFTY..but i cant blame him..when two guys who are icons in the game starts beefin?...and you HAVE to take sides?...what do you do?.

    • @macman21
      @macman21 3 года назад +3

      This is really interesting for me. I was in my last year of college when he and Wayne started buzzing. Andre 3000 was the 3rd option at that time. Wayne was always ahead of Juju. But I totally believe juelz could have been in the spot drake was behind Wayne from 09-11 ,when drake officially became the headline rapper .

    • @jucitylegends4626
      @jucitylegends4626 3 года назад +1

      Most definitely

    • @mommawemad3it975
      @mommawemad3it975 3 года назад +4

      Loving this hip hop stunted growth bro
      SHIT WAS GENIUS!!
      keep it going SALUTE 💯

  • @dripllc5088
    @dripllc5088 3 года назад +492

    Wayne is a chameleon. He went from southern, to dipset swag, to suburban skater dude. Lol. Gotta be able to reinvent yourself. Looks like he gave Drake the blueprint.

    • @COPESLANDmovemaKER
      @COPESLANDmovemaKER 3 года назад +46

      Gotta sell what people are buying at the time.

    • @Etnad85
      @Etnad85 3 года назад +3

      💯

    • @TheStefanp10
      @TheStefanp10 3 года назад +22

      He stole Soulja slim rapping style and try to steal clipse style hence their beef

    • @sneakez9644
      @sneakez9644 3 года назад +41

      He rode that dipset Harlem swag hard.. dont 4get the Gillie from Philly vibe he rode for a lil while too...

    • @ancientastronauttheoristss9345
      @ancientastronauttheoristss9345 3 года назад +18

      He also did rock at some point 😂

  • @nightmarefiles1
    @nightmarefiles1 3 года назад +256

    When I was in middle school, my basketball team would enter the gym to Dipset Anthem

    • @stuntedgrowthmusic
      @stuntedgrowthmusic  3 года назад +23

      No other better song for real! Dipset Dipset Dipset!

    • @301.allday
      @301.allday 3 года назад +24

      That's ill just imagining it. Please tell me y'all were good. Can't walk out to a song like that and be trash lol.

    • @nightmarefiles1
      @nightmarefiles1 3 года назад +7

      @@301.allday yea, we were good lol

    • @tristv8891
      @tristv8891 3 года назад

      And the other song part of that song is fire as well 🔥

    • @illatek
      @illatek 3 года назад +1

      That’s dope ! 😂

  • @KevLeaux
    @KevLeaux 3 года назад +289

    You could make a whole series of rocafella artists 😭😭😭

    • @jamaalcarter2883
      @jamaalcarter2883 3 года назад +3

      Facts💯💯💯

    • @t-god2439
      @t-god2439 3 года назад +1

      😭 not freeway 🛣

    • @SVGIN
      @SVGIN 3 года назад +4

      Fatzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........but Jay and dame was earning the spotlught up

    • @KevLeaux
      @KevLeaux 3 года назад +8

      @@SVGIN yea they also single handedly decided the fate of alot of careers after the split

    • @kjo2130
      @kjo2130 3 года назад +15

      Peedi crakk should’ve been a star

  • @TightMoneyGripp813
    @TightMoneyGripp813 3 года назад +279

    “Human Crack in the flesh/ I'm the last of the best/ One word to describe me, spectacular, YES!” - Juelz Santana

    • @enriquemonad2725
      @enriquemonad2725 3 года назад +32

      So stay calm shorty, when you see that palm 40, I pop it slow, you'll rock and roll like bon jovi!!!

    • @HipHopNerdHarryGusto
      @HipHopNerdHarryGusto 3 года назад +12

      Whether Bimmer, Benz, or Bentley, I be movin', I be movin'
      Making movies Tom Cruisin' if it's action then I'm shooting
      Pockets fat, necks studded, boy my nickname should be Ruben

    • @igspar007
      @igspar007 3 года назад +3

      that line weak

    • @igspar007
      @igspar007 3 года назад +2

      @@enriquemonad2725 that shit weak too

    • @MyDbzfan9000
      @MyDbzfan9000 3 года назад +6

      @@igspar007 lol write something better than nigga , right now

  • @HiphopPushpromo
    @HiphopPushpromo 3 года назад +110

    "There's nothing worst than wasted talent" - Sunny from "A Bronx Tale"

    • @johnnyjacuzzi7498
      @johnnyjacuzzi7498 3 года назад +7

      Worse* 🤦‍♂️

    • @dreadxplayzs7849
      @dreadxplayzs7849 2 года назад

      He made millions a d travelled the world in style,I doubt he waisted his talents 🤷‍♀️

    • @thomascrowley9122
      @thomascrowley9122 Год назад +3

      Sonny didn't say that. Lorenzo the dad did

  • @Dj2knitro
    @Dj2knitro 3 года назад +41

    He said in a interview he said his house was broken into and his music was destroyed or stolen in the process and he didn't have the will to keep rapping after losing all of his tracks. At least it stopped him for awhile,but by the time he tried to get back in the game it was too late the game had left him behind and he couldn't fit in with the new wave.

    • @MrMartellSincere
      @MrMartellSincere 2 года назад +1

      That's awful 😞😓

    • @UptownKash
      @UptownKash Год назад +10

      That man has made millions of excuses for not being productive 🤦

    • @KingStreetBrody
      @KingStreetBrody Год назад

      Lean

    • @kixinmaddick7424
      @kixinmaddick7424 Год назад +1

      Juelz is just lazy man. He had a buzz again when BBB came out with Lloyd Banks and he never capitalized. Some people just don’t want it. Wayne wanted it. Drake wanted it.
      You can clearly see the difference between those 2 and Juelz Santana. Lloyd Banks is another example of a guy who just didn’t want it bad enough. He just wanted to rap, get his money, and smash chicks. That’s it. He didn’t want the power and the stardom 50 wanted.

    • @daytonflyerr7608
      @daytonflyerr7608 Год назад +1

      What the GAME left behind

  • @MillionaireHoyOriginal
    @MillionaireHoyOriginal 3 года назад +195

    There are a few inconsistencies here.
    1 - Juelz was never a better lyricist than Cam.
    2 - The interview where Cam talked about Juelz drug addiction was years after the Jim and Juelz joining 50 on stage.
    3 - The feud with Jim and Tru Life played a MAJOR role in Dipset not moving around much, is what ultimately led to Cam's long hiatus, and him feeling even more betrayed with the 50 cent/Jim/Juelz situation.
    4 - After the success of "Ballin" and Byrdgang, Jim attempted to take lead in Dipset, and it appeared that Juelz was backing him.
    5 - As Wayne became more popular, he severed ties with Juelz. From interviews that I've watched, Juelz maintained that he was interested in CFMF, but Wayne stopped mentioning it altogether, and instead focused on Young Money.
    6 - Juelz drug issues played a HUGE role in his fall from grace. The quality of his music started to suffer and he took a really bad fall with the drugs... even leading to his gun and oxy arrest at the airport.
    7 - Despite all of this, he started to make a buzz for himself in the resurgence of NY rap between 2016-2018, but the gun arrest at the airport set him back even further.
    8 - Love & Hip-Hop set him back even further.
    With all of that being said, I'll always be a Dipset/Juelz fan and I think that his story is far from over.

    • @Brandonforever21608
      @Brandonforever21608 3 года назад +83

      Bro Juelz was 100% a better lyricist than Cam come on now 😒

    • @MillionaireHoyOriginal
      @MillionaireHoyOriginal 3 года назад +29

      @@Brandonforever21608 Not fronting on Juelz AT ALL, but you got Cam messed up. Cam has legitimate classic projects under his belt. Dips was solid and hungry Juelz was a PROBLEM, but Cam? ruclips.net/video/DGfIBSCYWgA/видео.html

    • @adilla121783
      @adilla121783 3 года назад +3

      That tru life New York New York still bang and that track he did with jay-z and then yeah that members of byrdgang put jimmy on top but that entire mixtape bangs rRIP my nigga STACK BUNDLES..... but you 1000 percent right tho

    • @MrYoungzay
      @MrYoungzay 3 года назад +25

      @@Brandonforever21608 na, Cam was better. 1 of the most underrated

    • @MrEOM41
      @MrEOM41 3 года назад +23

      Juelz would devour Cam

  • @whatsshakinbaconnothinjust2986
    @whatsshakinbaconnothinjust2986 3 года назад +45

    His verse on Cam'ron Losing Weight pt 2 still gives me chills. You could hear his hunger.

    • @johnnyjacuzzi7498
      @johnnyjacuzzi7498 3 года назад

      Hell yeah

    • @dxlxrated
      @dxlxrated 3 года назад

      Yo!!!! Hard!!!!!

    • @dxlxrated
      @dxlxrated 3 года назад

      “They wanna know why I’m so nice……..”🔥🔥🔥

    • @argylesmith9141
      @argylesmith9141 3 года назад +2

      @@dxlxrated when it comes to spittin that 🔥

    • @dxlxrated
      @dxlxrated 3 года назад +1

      @@argylesmith9141 “it’s reall dawg I live in the fire……..”

  • @kingofnewyork8818
    @kingofnewyork8818 3 года назад +26

    I remember when Dipset was fire in NYC. Santana had so much fucking swag

    • @dreadxplayzs7849
      @dreadxplayzs7849 2 года назад +2

      Everybody wanted to be Santana back then,around 2010 nobody cares anymore though

  • @familiathelabel7482
    @familiathelabel7482 3 года назад +35

    I’m so upset Juelz never became the artist he should’ve been. Him and Wayne was like a real dream team.

    • @dreadxplayzs7849
      @dreadxplayzs7849 2 года назад +3

      He had the potential to be the best NYC artist and one of the goats,crazy how other people's issues lead to his own demise as an artist.

    • @Iamsandivo
      @Iamsandivo 2 года назад

      facts

  • @YungGokuOver
    @YungGokuOver 3 года назад +30

    I'm pretty sure Wayne flat out admitted at some point that Can't Feel My Face never got done cause Julez just didnt really work as hard as Wayne and it just wasn't syncing up. It basically sounded like nice way of saying my Homie just is lazy or not quite as driven.

  • @IcebergSlim03
    @IcebergSlim03 3 года назад +26

    When Julez was going bar for bar with Wayne on that i can’t feel my face mixtape, i just KNEW Juelz was up next. I’m a big dipset fan and i always wanted juelz to blow up. His verse on losing weight pt 2 with cam 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️ Juelz went in. Juelz had it.

    • @onesharpsagittarius9377
      @onesharpsagittarius9377 3 года назад

      He still big what's the problem? I mean, the lean did more damage than anything. His mouth got Bobby Brown jaw and you can hear it when he spit. He still lyrically tough. Punchlines and Metaphors are still up.

    • @IcebergSlim03
      @IcebergSlim03 3 года назад +1

      @@onesharpsagittarius9377 he didn’t live up to his full potential when you look at him being right next to Wayne, jeezy, and T.I. I’m still dipset fan. I’ll always be a dipset fan but he didn’t live up to his full potential. The lean messed him up along with his work ethic. And he caught that case too. He’ll always be a legend to me regardless.

    • @onesharpsagittarius9377
      @onesharpsagittarius9377 3 года назад +3

      @@IcebergSlim03 that's true. But he still had a nice run and solidified himself as a solid MC.

    • @IcebergSlim03
      @IcebergSlim03 3 года назад +1

      @@onesharpsagittarius9377 oh yeah absolutely!! I love dipset. I’ll never disrespect any of them ever lol.

  • @H2DaOhhVee
    @H2DaOhhVee 3 года назад +42

    I remember when 50 Cent was hosting an episode of Rap City on BET and Jim Jones popped up as a guest while 50 was beefing with Cam!! I was so disappointed as a Dipset fan at that point!! It felt like some divide & conquer shit 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @PhilMiCoochie
      @PhilMiCoochie 3 года назад +3

      He tried way to mf hard to act cool and snaked just about everyone

    • @dominiqueosorio-davis6781
      @dominiqueosorio-davis6781 3 года назад +4

      I remember that shit 50 was hosting Rap City all week cause they didn't have a host.

    • @dreadxplayzs7849
      @dreadxplayzs7849 2 года назад +3

      I remember that,I was disappointed to,I was getting ready for a Juelz vs 50 beef but I think Camron pissed Juelz off to much with him not siding with cam fully in jayz beef then cam calling him a drug addict put the nail in the coffin and even though cam was out of line for that Jelz killed his own buzz when he stooped to cam level by appearing with 50 cent,it was a sucker move that destroyed his reputation as a loyal dude to the public eye with his group and against the leader of his diplomats group camron.

    • @dreadxplayzs7849
      @dreadxplayzs7849 2 года назад

      It was divide and conquer what 50 did which was his plan all along when he found out thier situation which he shouldn't had known.he even tried to put jimmy against cam when he had jimmy close in his ear telling jim that he would be the better as the boss of dipset which was an even worse idea considering jimmy had no real connections outside of dame.50 knew what he was doing by gassing jimmy,50 the king at that chit he learned that in the streets divide and conquer.

    • @soulofachristian8704
      @soulofachristian8704 2 года назад +1

      Yes bro. They could of had the best group beef in history, but Jimmy was stupid n weak and got fooled by the Gunit Boss

  • @raviolihands5347
    @raviolihands5347 3 года назад +112

    There was a alternate reality where juelz santanna was the BEST rapper in nyc for about 90 days!!! He directly influenced lil wayne he brought weezy to harlem for a summer and sent him back home wearing acg boots and wallet chains

    • @jamalvines2133
      @jamalvines2133 3 года назад +9

      BUT ACG NIKE BOOTS IS A D.C. THING

    • @raviolihands5347
      @raviolihands5347 3 года назад +7

      @@jamalvines2133 ok???????!!!! Did i say it wasnt or something?? I know acgs originated in chocolate city

    • @jamalvines2133
      @jamalvines2133 3 года назад +2

      @@raviolihands5347 THANKS FOR THE CREDIT. BUT POPULARIZED NOT ORIGINATE.
      WANT ME TELL YOU WHO POPULARIZE TIMBS TOO LLS

    • @childof83
      @childof83 3 года назад

      @@jamalvines2133 it was nyc first in the 90s but was akso a dc thing too in the late 90s then poppin again in dc in the early 2ks

    • @childof83
      @childof83 3 года назад +1

      wayne basically took Juelz style and saturated it.

  • @fahblizza
    @fahblizza 3 года назад +27

    Laziness stunted his growth.

    • @hemme100
      @hemme100 3 года назад

      Drugs not laziness

    • @fahblizza
      @fahblizza 3 года назад +2

      @@hemme100 that didn't stop Cam or Wayne

    • @onesharpsagittarius9377
      @onesharpsagittarius9377 3 года назад

      I have to disagree with you on that. He not lazy. He will put in the work.

  • @xxxxbigrich5752
    @xxxxbigrich5752 3 года назад +23

    Juelz is still that dude. In Washington heights he's adored and in Harlem he's still the king. I'm deadass! 🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴 But on the real Cam had a choke hold on his contract. Juelz couldn't move without Cam. They had a dispute for 8 years.

    • @yellowdiamond1239
      @yellowdiamond1239 3 года назад

      🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴👌🤗 I agree!

    • @theuniversejr
      @theuniversejr 2 года назад

      @Bold&Black MuvA facts and im sure juelz wasnt trying to ride the coattails of lil wayne... he tried to do it his own way but i think he took too much time between dropping music and wasnt consistent enough to keep pace with how fast music was starting to get pumped out.

  • @johnnyjacuzzi7498
    @johnnyjacuzzi7498 3 года назад +13

    The Cam vs 50 situation was hilarious. Cam got so deep (pause) under his skin that 50 had to change his album name to convince us it didn’t bother him.

    • @flip849
      @flip849 2 года назад

      We gotta add pause on every sus statement when speaking about cam 😂😂

  • @DerwinDaDestroyer
    @DerwinDaDestroyer 3 года назад +61

    My 44 piece talking
    Do mo mo street talking
    Than Stone Cold Steve Austin

    • @jameshamilton5947
      @jameshamilton5947 3 года назад +1

      Damn!!!

    • @DerwinDaDestroyer
      @DerwinDaDestroyer 3 года назад +2

      @@jameshamilton5947 that boy Santana had some quotables

    • @staynez
      @staynez 2 месяца назад +1

      You about to see a preview of the Matrix 12!

  • @Mileswayv
    @Mileswayv 3 года назад +54

    This is all facts. Juelz still a legend tho ask fredo

  • @travisghost5067
    @travisghost5067 3 года назад +12

    This hurts me the most as a inner city kid from ny growing up in his reign he could have been king he had it all and was a beast everything he dropped as far as projects are fire his freestyles were goat level he had nyc going crazy

  • @hl5032
    @hl5032 3 года назад +13

    For me Santana and CamRon was one of the best to do it for real. Hey mah was a legendary hit and Santana made that song back in 02 with CamRon 20 years ago at 20. Definitely one of the best to do it and most definitely paved away for most rappers today especially in New York its sad they ain't spoken about as much.

    • @RostaNarudboi
      @RostaNarudboi 3 года назад +1

      But there names are the most mentioned in the game even as of today

  • @Rellbronjames9
    @Rellbronjames9 3 года назад +38

    I'm really feeling this new stunted growth page bro. Santana was one of my favorite rappers at one point. Everybody in my hood was running around wearing pink, rocking bandanas to the side, that shit was epic. I have to agree with you 💯 percent.

  • @raphael9783
    @raphael9783 3 года назад +8

    By 07 Wayne was killing everything.

    • @bornreadytrill
      @bornreadytrill 3 года назад +3

      Facts while juelz was caught up in drama wayne was taking over

    • @raphael9783
      @raphael9783 3 года назад +4

      @@bornreadytrill right cuz by then wayne had already remixed jay song "show me what you got" and tore it to shreds.

  • @brendonwallace5941
    @brendonwallace5941 3 года назад +77

    Dipset! Dipset! Dipset! Juelz is one of my favs, but Cam’ron was my favorite outa Dipset. Juelz had lyrics also!

    • @Rellbronjames9
      @Rellbronjames9 3 года назад +1

      💯💯💯

    • @djcastano1180
      @djcastano1180 3 года назад +6

      Cam def a better lyricist than Juelz and artist too. None of Juelz albums compare to Purple Haze, SDE, Come Home With Me etc. saying that though, i still love Juelz music.

    • @Rellbronjames9
      @Rellbronjames9 3 года назад +3

      @@djcastano1180 Damn Santana never gave us the fans the opportunity to make that comparison but the one thing I can say is when he was under Cam wing the flow was impeccable same thing in Vado case he left the nest and the music and fans suffered

    • @jonnyboy1064
      @jonnyboy1064 3 года назад +2

      @@djcastano1180 S.D.E. is def a classic and still is better than any watered down shit that's out today

    • @jameshamilton5947
      @jameshamilton5947 3 года назад +1

      @@djcastano1180 Cam a better lyricist than Juelz Santana???? Idk bruh....they both spitting too much heat for me to even decide

  • @ddavis1393
    @ddavis1393 3 года назад +17

    What the game's been missing album was a classic album and it's hella underrated bruh

  • @staten84
    @staten84 3 года назад +29

    And then he makes a fool of himself during a Verzuz and Jadakiss puts him in a coffin

  • @paul734
    @paul734 3 года назад +11

    Yoooooo you officially the GOAT for this opening. Cant wait to see this series grow!

  • @FnIggnent
    @FnIggnent 3 года назад +34

    The whole damn gang in here, like Kurt Cobain in here chea chea chea!
    Used to be my shit lol

  • @lisadavis9849
    @lisadavis9849 3 года назад +8

    Juelz will prove substance over style is always everlasting.

  • @ighsight
    @ighsight 3 года назад +23

    The gulf in skills between Wayne and Juelz is so large, how could he ever be bigger. Let's not blame it on drugs, Wayne was doing the same shit he was.

    • @ChrisH421
      @ChrisH421 3 года назад +13

      It's not the drugs Wayne had a drive to be great Juelz just didn't have that and thought he would fall into being great because of his skill

    • @bigjay2627
      @bigjay2627 3 года назад

      @@ChrisH421 he was skilled tho

    • @ChrisH421
      @ChrisH421 3 года назад +1

      @@bigjay2627 I know I said he didn't have the drive to be great just wanted to rely on his skill and skill is not enough

    • @joshuajarod1909
      @joshuajarod1909 3 года назад

      @@ChrisH421 What else on top of skill

    • @ChrisH421
      @ChrisH421 3 года назад +1

      @@joshuajarod1909 what do you mean I'm saying juelz was highly skilled he has interesting rhythm schemes, unique flow, good punch lines, and was lyrical he just got lazy and stopped putting out consistent music where Wayne kept grindin and kept pushing to evolve his style

  • @neishneish5268
    @neishneish5268 3 года назад +23

    The I can’t feel my face is legendary for both of them. That’s when Wayne up the level. Next was drought 1,2, n 3!!

    • @jameshamilton5947
      @jameshamilton5947 3 года назад +2

      Wayne was even repping "I Can't Feel My Face" in Da Drought 3

    • @jameshamilton5947
      @jameshamilton5947 3 года назад +1

      Wayne was even repping "I Can't Feel My Face" in Da Drought 3

    • @neishneish5268
      @neishneish5268 3 года назад

      @@jameshamilton5947 facts that was a good lil era da clue and dj k Slay had some bangers too wit em

    • @cube5884
      @cube5884 3 года назад +2

      LMAO theres no such thing as I cant feel my face its just fake ass mixtapes with leaked collabs between them

    • @neishneish5268
      @neishneish5268 3 года назад +1

      @@cube5884 damnnnn I thought that was official. Them rumors hit different back then lol

  • @MrEOM41
    @MrEOM41 3 года назад +7

    I love that era of the mid 2000s where Juelz/Dipset and Wayne were collabing they definitely gave Wayne the keys to take over the rapgame

    • @beb5407
      @beb5407 3 года назад +1

      Wayne used them n took the ball n ran with it - he seen that door open n ran all the way through it

  • @ZzZzZz0123
    @ZzZzZz0123 3 года назад +76

    Juelz shouldve signed to young money when wayne was on top

  • @karimamos
    @karimamos 3 года назад +9

    He was also in the streets .... that kept him financially comfortable that’s why was stagnant 2012- and up

  • @MissingMyPeeps
    @MissingMyPeeps 3 года назад +24

    Wayne is in a League of his own and makes his point clear whenever he feels like it....

    • @dreadxplayzs7849
      @dreadxplayzs7849 2 года назад +1

      Lil Wayne the clown that says BLM do not matter lol no

    • @holdencaulfield621
      @holdencaulfield621 2 года назад

      Lil Wayne > Jay Z

    • @imjusttrollingyou4014
      @imjusttrollingyou4014 2 года назад

      @@dreadxplayzs7849 this didn't age well with BLM now being exposed as a scam by greedy black women.

  • @Al3xg13
    @Al3xg13 3 года назад +10

    Lil wayne did create an offspring of mumble rappers. That’s definitely a fact

  • @NottyGurlStyle
    @NottyGurlStyle 3 года назад +7

    Julez was all fire back then..out of all of Dipset I bought his album and would play it every damn day. It’s a shame he could take off because he was definitely on the rise.

  • @carlosg4342
    @carlosg4342 3 года назад +6

    I swear to you I’ve been hearing “the album is done” or “the album is coming” since bush was in office. I know he got raided and whatnot, but take 6 weeks and really lock in with a single producer and you’ll have a CLASSIC.

  • @iamdominichorne
    @iamdominichorne 3 года назад +7

    Juelz admitted that he got lazy.
    In an interview, Juelz spoke on losing his studio and having the fire to go to any other studio to record songs and/or do features because having the access to an at-home studio spoiled him.

    • @sbdent.4321
      @sbdent.4321 3 года назад +1

      That’s a bad excuse. He still wasn’t releasing music in his at home studio.

  • @igethighhighhigh
    @igethighhighhigh 3 года назад +5

    His versatility reminds me of herb, not too flashy but flashy enough to show you he’s a born star

  • @childof83
    @childof83 3 года назад +5

    Juelz went kinda commercial on the second album in my opinion. Juelz coulda been like currenssy and had a solid cult underground following. Juelz can still do his thing honestly if he doesnt worry about making popular music and just make his own style of music like he use to. He might not get to be super big but he def will gain a solid following.

  • @KeetAAmor
    @KeetAAmor 3 года назад +3

    JC I love what you doing with the channel. You also deserve more subscribers. As a New Yorker I remember all of this. You Diiiid leave out a couple points though. You didn't give a reason why Cam took a hiatus. His mother had two strokes. Also Cam admitted to blocking Juelz features and official "Can't feel my face". Juelz was on hot97 explaing why he disappeared. Even saying "I need he to have a talk with Cam". Cam later came out and say Juelz wasn't lying and he wasn't approving Juelz to do features or an official "Can't feel my face" 'cause he wasn't feeling Juelz developing syrup habit. This all end of '08 top of '09. Between Hot97 and Cams XXL cover story. So he wasn't lazy he was dead ass benched.

  • @chrislagoa1386
    @chrislagoa1386 3 года назад

    I already had major respect for the stunted growth NBA page but you out doing ya self with this one keep the amazing content flowing my g one love.

  • @elmayimbe_the_amateur_mechanic
    @elmayimbe_the_amateur_mechanic 3 года назад +5

    Being born and raised in Brooklyn I have Fab and Jada in my top 5 of all time (you heard that correct). People look at me crazy when I say Juelz is on that level.

  • @jaywilliams4985
    @jaywilliams4985 3 года назад +7

    Digging these music stunted growth! You def from my era with the music and hoops! Keep up the good work! oh yea, you been doing the ROC might as well do the Young Gunz :)

  • @blueblack4035
    @blueblack4035 3 года назад +26

    "I get the shooters shooting, the boosters boosting and the looters looting." Camrom.

    • @tnglilsean5198
      @tnglilsean5198 3 года назад +25

      nah It's '' I get the boasters boasting, I get computers putin Y'all get shot at, call me, I do the shootingI do the recruiting, I tutor the studentsI nurture they brain, I'm moving the movement Whether Buddhist or Buddha, that's Judist or Juda''

    • @jeremiahmarshall8848
      @jeremiahmarshall8848 3 года назад +2

      @@tnglilsean5198 jeff Hamilton genius

    • @tnglilsean5198
      @tnglilsean5198 3 года назад +2

      @@jeremiahmarshall8848 Leather Time Bitches Say I'm The Man I Tell Em Nevermind

    • @jeremiahmarshall8848
      @jeremiahmarshall8848 3 года назад +2

      @@tnglilsean5198 they getting nice they got some ice

    • @captivesojourner
      @captivesojourner 3 года назад +4

      Computers Putin

  • @T_TYME
    @T_TYME 3 года назад +9

    "Who am I" one of my favorite tracks all time 💯 .....do Lloyd Banks‼️

  • @Captain_ObviouslyRight
    @Captain_ObviouslyRight 3 года назад +11

    I get chills thinking about Come Home wit Me (the song)

    • @Nostalgic-J
      @Nostalgic-J 3 года назад +1

      ...have you in court, kids that ain't yours...

    • @BAMADAN
      @BAMADAN 3 года назад +1

      One of the greatest songs

    • @Captain_ObviouslyRight
      @Captain_ObviouslyRight 3 года назад

      Come home with me, dog where the beef is seeking
      Kids don't trick or treat, they get tricked for treating

  • @Nala-xf6rz
    @Nala-xf6rz 3 года назад +14

    Very slim chance Juelz could have been bigger than Wayne. He could've been a platinum rapper/a success. Wayne is an icon who carried a whole label on his back for years. The next step from being a success is not Wayne yall gotta relax 😂

  • @MrHipHopIsLife
    @MrHipHopIsLife 3 года назад +5

    Thank you for this, I’ve always wondered what happened to Juelz.. he was up next..

  • @franklavere2924
    @franklavere2924 3 года назад +1

    I really enjoy this channel its fresh and in-depth

  • @yungflyandflashy12
    @yungflyandflashy12 3 года назад

    Great vid. Juelz was my fav back in the day that I can’t feel my face mixtape with Wayne 🔥

  • @ryanroad1646
    @ryanroad1646 3 года назад +4

    Damn bro this was nice. I rock with this.

  • @naimlloyd
    @naimlloyd 3 года назад +13

    In nyc we never looked at santana in the way u talk about him lol. Maybe because we heard alot of his music before other areas or maybe because Cam is the king of harlem. We listened to him but we never put him high on our list and we definitely would never say he's a better lyricist than Cam or big L or ma$e or tones of other rappers from NYC.

    • @marcuscole1994
      @marcuscole1994 3 года назад +12

      Us down south niggas fucked wit Santana heavy

    • @jayday1503
      @jayday1503 3 года назад +4

      Definitely wasn't better than Cam or Big L, but everyone fucks with Santana!

    • @mobmanstopit5708
      @mobmanstopit5708 3 года назад +2

      Juelz always was that nigga

    • @ShyCashual
      @ShyCashual 3 года назад +2

      I agree with the cam and big L shit but juelz definitely had young niggas dressing like him from bandanas and all that but truthfully without cam none of them niggas would be popping and I'm talking post Big L mid 99 shit

    • @yungfly321
      @yungfly321 3 года назад +1

      crazy cuz im from RI and i have cousins that live in the city and they never understood why i liked juelz so much. they never seen dipset as a big deal. but in ri they were huge. i remember i would go to the city and always play dipset and they would be suprised at how big of a fan i was cuz NY wasnt really big on dipset like that. it was like jay z or nothing for them.

  • @TristanCinemas
    @TristanCinemas 3 года назад +1

    I feel this! I waited for juelz the be the one top guy in rap. This video series a breath of fresh air. Keep em goin pleeez!

  • @Pimp2g6
    @Pimp2g6 3 года назад

    Glad to see you still dropping 🔥💯

  • @chucknastyness
    @chucknastyness 3 года назад +7

    Julez was my favorite out of Dipset. He let his time pass him by, he was satisfied with just being one of the guys and not Thee Guy

    • @Iamsandivo
      @Iamsandivo 2 года назад

      perfect description of his situation

  • @sstworld08
    @sstworld08 3 года назад +7

    You forgot his studio got raided

  • @Det1911
    @Det1911 3 года назад +1

    This is about to be my favorite channel

  • @sselevolmusic6584
    @sselevolmusic6584 3 года назад +2

    I used to want to be like Julez so bad in middle school that’s how much of a influence he had . Respect for the content! 💯

  • @1turboo
    @1turboo 3 года назад +6

    Y’all remember when Santana showed his jewelry on the come up ? Classic

  • @kalcine
    @kalcine 3 года назад +12

    I think he was too young back then to choose side. Cam helped him enough by signing him and featured him enough times but to raise him as a huge solo artist to an other level was not his task cause he was also trying to help himself and his own career at the time, that1s why he dissed Jay and 50 cause he also had to fight for attention.

  • @fosu2006
    @fosu2006 3 года назад +2

    Excellent video JC this video was amazing you nailed it on everything with Juelz Santana. Next video you have to do is Remy Ma or Chief Keef both had stunted growths in music.

  • @cipherP9
    @cipherP9 3 года назад +2

    Look this is how I see it, Juelz & Jim Jones were literally on the same boat. Juelz was said by many to have the most potential coming out of Dipset and not many thought Jim would step out to be as nice as he is on the mic. Jim dropped one big hit and then he latched onto that opportunity then didn’t stop moving, he networked to the point he’s getting collabos from all coasts. Juelz had hits, made a highly anticipated mixtape with Wayne and got more shine when Chris Brown started his career. I put this all down to Juelz not putting his foot on the gas when the time was right. Once he got in he settled for where he was at instead of keeping himself on top.

  • @bellzo5
    @bellzo5 3 года назад +10

    Juelz was the chosen one since from me to you

  • @LEGIONOFKNICKSPODCAST
    @LEGIONOFKNICKSPODCAST 3 года назад +5

    Wow this is a great great idea. Santana was def supposed to be that dude. From NYC, he was the prince...damn man. salute

  • @lgjulius32
    @lgjulius32 3 года назад

    Great video keep them coming shout out from Westminster California ✌🏽😎

  • @s.o.gshowtime
    @s.o.gshowtime 2 года назад

    i totally forgot about this! you brought back mad memories

  • @Kennyisdarkvanilla
    @Kennyisdarkvanilla 3 года назад +19

    Can you do Lloyd Banks next. Dude was literally the best lyricist in G-Unit and should have been one of the all time greats.

    • @kbtitan2464
      @kbtitan2464 3 года назад +1

      He already is

    • @user-jk6ch6py1l
      @user-jk6ch6py1l 3 года назад +1

      Buck was cold too

    • @78grafikal
      @78grafikal 3 года назад +2

      No one up to today can match his bars

    • @bigjay2627
      @bigjay2627 3 года назад

      @@78grafikal cassidy. Wayne. Fab. Em. Papoose

  • @Trill104
    @Trill104 3 года назад +13

    Juelz could’ve been another Lil Wayne for sure; He was one of the few up top rappers that the South would’ve supported heavily. He had no where near the same output as Wayne tho. He’s never had a classic album either. He was a dope rapper tho and had the talent he just didn’t have a versatile flow that would make him sound fresh like a Wayne or a Jay Z.
    Plus Juelz never changed is “swag”... He should’ve taken some pointers from Fabulous as far as going into that grown man status.

  • @debrunskihenry515
    @debrunskihenry515 3 года назад +2

    You got me cuz! I subscribed. You was in your element here! Real journalism 👏! You had me already with the hoop! But this one and the Beanie. How can I be on the research team?

  • @jrjlr2004
    @jrjlr2004 2 года назад +2

    First off much respect for the detail and topics you choose! Will def be studying to start my own channel! These dudes were iconic and the legacy/impact they had makes it hard to say they’re potential was stunted, but I agree there was something left to be desired. Especially after the Verzuz disaster lol. It’s Dipset 4 L tho - some Elz bars definitely still hold up today ✊🏾we can’t erase the wave and movement they gave us on top the dope music!

  • @kingimmanuel3411
    @kingimmanuel3411 3 года назад +4

    watching from Zimbabwe in Africa. your reach and content is amazing man. props for expanding into a music edition of stunted growth.

  • @RC-rc8xh
    @RC-rc8xh 3 года назад +5

    Juelz was dope ASF....💯🥃🍾

  • @junkdawg2740
    @junkdawg2740 Год назад

    Man bro I appreciate the love you showed that verse in the beginning because these ppl don’t know man

  • @hemp4206
    @hemp4206 3 года назад +2

    My boy expanded 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

  • @mumblescapone5143
    @mumblescapone5143 3 года назад +3

    Juelz definitely could have been the goat. One of the only people to go bar for bar with Wayne back then and be just as good as not better

  • @DoloRomeG
    @DoloRomeG 3 года назад +16

    Santana fell off after doing that “I can’t feel my face mixtape” with lil Wayne.. Ain’t been the same since.. smh 🤦🏾‍♂️ Moral of the story.. Cocaine one helluv a drug..

    • @TekkLuthor
      @TekkLuthor 3 года назад

      Be careful who you bring in, they her hex powers and they will steal your thunder

    • @Kingsmyth18
      @Kingsmyth18 2 года назад +1

      It never released dicchead

    • @DoloRomeG
      @DoloRomeG 2 года назад

      @@Kingsmyth18 think you’re referring to your daddy 🤡

  • @ODGamerz
    @ODGamerz 3 года назад

    Fam you nailed this video 💯👈🏿

  • @kidsdontdobrack9166
    @kidsdontdobrack9166 3 года назад

    Bro I didn’t know you had a hip hop RUclips channel I think that’s though keep grinding man keep doing what you do love the content brotha

  • @s4mp_founder
    @s4mp_founder 3 года назад +5

    Young and being so use to being told what to do, stagnated his talent. And when he lost those hard drives that had years of his music on it that he was going to release. Sunk him into the place that left the effects of what we as fans are now starting to see.

  • @Jairusd88
    @Jairusd88 3 года назад +4

    At one point Juelz was considered the prodigy of hip hop, I always thought that I can’t feel my face album hurt juelz career that was going to cement his legacy in hip hop.

    • @raisinbigdaddykane9723
      @raisinbigdaddykane9723 3 года назад

      ICFMF was like the original DOOM/STARKS album. Exciting to imagine but knew it wasnt ever coming

    • @Jairusd88
      @Jairusd88 3 года назад

      @@raisinbigdaddykane9723 yeah man I wanted that to happen bad, just found out a year ago it didn’t happen due to Wayne label issues.

  • @allblacksun84
    @allblacksun84 3 года назад

    Great video!!, I was gassed when him and Wayne was supposed to do i cant feel my face. You should Shyheim, lost generation was dope, manchild was good. Dude was on TV, doing movies and big things and now its like he's a shadow.

  • @onesharpsagittarius9377
    @onesharpsagittarius9377 3 года назад +1

    Juelz is still a big artist to me. Run it was a huge record. Juelz walked on that joint effortlessly. It solidified him as a mainstay. "I caint feel my face is getting started, and weezy is my accomplice"🗣️ juelz still will walk all over your favorite rapper.

  • @Thelyricalangel7
    @Thelyricalangel7 3 года назад +6

    No
    Man Wayne on a whole nother level from any artist that Eva came out period

  • @DamnMixes
    @DamnMixes 3 года назад +5

    I disagree with you on this one. Juelz was never that nice to begin with, his bars were too simple, outdated and not strong enough. He was being marketed like one of those 00s big clothing fashion dudes where a lot of his fans came from. He made some nice songs for sure, but Cam, JR, Hell Rell, 40 cal, A-Mafia could rap circles around him. And Cam being one of the very best rappers of the 00s.
    If Juelz was a basketball player, he'd be that inefficient guy, who has quite a few fans who does some cool moves from time to time, but gets carried by the better more skilled teammates. Basically the kind of player who has a short 6-7 year NBA career, because of not having great enough technical skills to keep him longer in the league.

    • @DamnMixes
      @DamnMixes 3 года назад +1

      @@iamanobody2805 Yeah image and production is what he had. Him and Jim Jones were hella overrated and both needed to surround themselves with spitters cause they were nothing but an image to get more fans. Like Dipset B team is nothing but spitters. JR Writer's Block mixtapes are classic, Hell Rell would oftenly drop the best verse on a track. A team is overrated, B team is underrated.

    • @edg810
      @edg810 3 года назад

      I actually agree with A LOT of the stuff you guys said here. I used to love Juelz and Dipset, but damn his music did not age well for me at all! Jim was also super overrated, but damn was Balling fire back in day...Thinking back it was fucking stupid how crazy that record was. However in recent years he's actually gotten better, like waaayy better. He's not the like Jadakiss or anything, but I did enjoy El Capo.

  • @CastaneArias
    @CastaneArias 3 года назад

    I’m 4 videos In and I’m a huge fan of the content dude

  • @luisr1595
    @luisr1595 3 года назад +1

    Love this channel

  • @jeffp130
    @jeffp130 3 года назад +5

    Wayne the goat how can you say such truth. I miss 07 juelz, prime juelz

  • @raybaby1866
    @raybaby1866 3 года назад +3

    Juelz didn’t want to go to those private parties!!!😂😂

  • @enzomazerati5632
    @enzomazerati5632 3 года назад

    4min into this video and it’s Pissin’ Me Off!!!!! Bc I Was There and I Agree with Everything You Saying So Far... Damn 😢

  • @bacoleone5756
    @bacoleone5756 3 года назад

    Dope video 😎📸

  • @badger297
    @badger297 3 года назад +3

    His verse on rewind was legendary

  • @fatheroftwo5482
    @fatheroftwo5482 3 года назад +49

    If you ask me Wayne actually took off after hanging around the dips he got his whole swag from them at that time (and Wayne is my favorite rapper of all time so don’t debate with me)

    • @brotherLee340
      @brotherLee340 3 года назад +20

      Yep. Between Dipset and Gillie. Wayne became more east coast. But it's still crazy to think Wayne was already a Vet in the game before his Big run lol

    • @isvvx
      @isvvx 3 года назад +10

      Big facts, dipset had everyone switching to fitted jeans & Ts/skull belts lol seems like that's when Wayne started reppin Piru too..

    • @PopOutPaulie
      @PopOutPaulie 3 года назад +3

      @@isvvx Don't forget the wallet chains 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @hotrod1812
      @hotrod1812 3 года назад

      Where u from ny

    • @leonardojacob804
      @leonardojacob804 3 года назад +2

      @@isvvx Rap Facts

  • @rollobeatz1671
    @rollobeatz1671 3 года назад

    jus found your channel today instant subscribe after hearin you reference the cant feel my face song.. i always debated with myself who had the better verse on that.

  • @jrjlr2004
    @jrjlr2004 2 года назад

    First off much respect for the detail and topics you choose! Will def be studying to start my own channel! These dudes were iconic and the legacy/impact they had makes it hard to say they’re potential was stunted, but I agree there was something left to be desired. Especially after the Verzuz disaster lol. It’s Dipset 4 L tho - some Elz bars definitely still hold up today ✊🏾

  • @mizzymilesdancmc1270
    @mizzymilesdancmc1270 3 года назад +22

    In my opinion, juelz started getting lazy with the bars and sounding trash during his skull gang era

  • @vegascityd4678
    @vegascityd4678 3 года назад +13

    Yall need to stop He ain't never out did Wayne or came close to me

    • @ailee3034
      @ailee3034 3 года назад

      Lmaoo facts . Not out do

    • @354allday
      @354allday 3 года назад

      C'mon now niggas know Wayne had a bunch of writers

  • @jaymonee317
    @jaymonee317 3 года назад +1

    Maaaaaaan u gotta music channel too! W. Subscribed