Battlefield Pick-Ups: A Possibility, Not A Plan
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Battlefield Pick-Ups: A Possibility, Not A Plan
You'll often hear that during SHTF there will be battlefield pick-ups all over the place. But is that something you'd bet on? Even if history shows it's real?
What types of battlefield pick-ups do you think we'd likely see here in the USA? Even with the historical precedent of battlefield pick-ups being a realistic event, do you think that planning on it being a primary source of defensive measures is a good idea?
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Is a battlefield pickup your number one strategy for acquiring a weapon system? What scenarios do you think would make the most sense for battlefield pickup situation to actually occur?
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Main Strategy? No, no, no, no, HELL NO.
My SHTF weapons are chambered in the most popular calibers today, 556 NATO, 7.62 NATO, 12 gauge and 22lr. The only real out liar is .17wsm. And I’ve made sure each will eat even the junkiest ammo I can find.. Do I plan to throw my weapons that I’ve trained with to the side in favor of what I pick-up, especially if it has that switch everyone seems to wet their pants over? Nope, not at all. Ammo will be far too valuable to mag dump in full auto in my opinion. And why the hell would I drop what I’ve trained with all this time for something set up for someone else and I have ZERO training on it? I might pull some of the cool accessories tho. And damn sure not going to leave weapons lay if I can help it.. But one thing I’m not going to do is immediately run out to relieve someone of their gear they don’t need anymore.. That’s going to be a Darwin Award and snipers dream..
@@lanejohnson7656 agreed 💯
Absolutely not. But for extra parts to barter during shift may have high value
I’m thinking empty magazines might be plentiful.
@@danielandrews7028 I might barter firearms I pick up. However, call me a crook if you like. But I would render them useless unless repaired and hope like hell they don’t know what they are doing. Lol
Pro tip from a dude who was an 11B: if youre in a shitty environment where people want you dead, and you didnt put something there, dont fuckin touch it.
Truth.
An ATF agent steps from behind nearest cover, "Whatcha got there, buddy?"...that's more likely here even in complete societal breakdown.
Someone once told me: if you didn’t shoot it by yourself, dont touch it
Hooooaaa 11b airborne air assault here.
@@michalbarsfajny4268that’s what I’ve basically heard people reiterate who were over in the sandbox.
CAN'T SEE anyone in SHTF abandoning their weapon or ammo, unless they're already DEAD.
Like Chuck said, "From my cold, dead hands."
Battle field pick up is also a notorious trap that can get u shot. Its a technique similar to a sniper knee capping someone in ur squad to send out rescue and the sniper shoots the rescue guys
Spiked ammo... grenades tied to a pack by the pin... staging a scene to look like a camp that someone left in a hurry and seeding it with land mines... there are very few new dirty tricks under the sun.
Good point!
Ask charly😂😂
@@ReptilianLepton spiked ammo yea the thing that literally didnt work in vietnam. sorry bro if i watch you go down you certainly didnt put spiked ammo in the weapon you are using lolololol.
@joshmiller9783 that's not how the spiked ammo was done and yes it did do its job in Nam. It's job wasn't mass injury but rather to have the enemy lose faith in their equipment, lower morale, and lose confidence in leadership.... its on record that those things were accomplished
A battlefield pickup is only useful if you know the platform
We call that the N Y reload
One of the few things NY got right
People have a LOT of fantasies surrounding what's coming.
It does make me feel better when I hear them but I also feel I will have to help alot of people when it all comes down and I'm OK with that
Agreed. I've heard a lot of delusional thought expressed by too many of "our side." Including nonsense that matches or surpasses the foolishness of the rubberneckers who showed up to picnic at First Bull Run, thinking it would be a quick demonstration of a few vollies by the boys in blue followed by total decisive victory and a swift end to the war.
This is true.
yea like the 2A for being about shtf end of world and not for what its really meant for lololol.
@@joshmiller9783 Who is saying that’s what it’s meant for? Which do you see more plausible, SHTF or the true intent of the 2A? Seems pretty damn obvious to me with how comfortable most citizens seem to be SHTF is far more plausible..
The 2nd amendment is about the citizens being able to protect themselves from all threats, but the true intent and what the founders feared most was the citizens own government.. Who by the way created this disaster. And I can make a strong argument it was done on purpose.
The Taliban made out pretty well on a battlefield pickup recently.
FJB
@@nagaviper1169 100%
The best part about using your enemies' weapons after they have been deemed not being booby trapped is the report of them. The enemies know what their weapons sound like, and if they hear them behind their positions, they won't worry. If they hear our weapon reports well, they know we're behind them. But that only works with two different countries using different weapons in a SHTF situation. All kinds of weapons will ve used.
Great point!
Having a dad who was an airborne green beret kind of prepped me for these scenarios. I can picknup and use almost any weapon simply from the dozens and dozens of different types he bought and had us pick up and lesrn how to use it and clean it. Thank you dad😊
Solid dad move
Pickups have been written in doctrine since about WWII. The CIA dropped the deer pistol into France, and the m5 slam fire shotgun was developed for Filipino guerrilla. In modern conflicts, the FGC9 is being used to great effect by the rebels in Myanmar.
History has a lot to teach.
yea lol. the second amendment was nearly exclusively for guerilla activities and battlefield pick ups are basically the only way to rearm as a guerilla.
My bear creek arsenal will hold me through till I can get those sweet battle field pick ups bro. I’ll have that knights SR-15 in no time.
Ask Reno May what he thinks about that idea haha
selling my new bear creek anybody interested
If you never played with a "BFP" and can't strip it down, "DON'T" use it!!!!
File a few MM’s off the firing pin and barter it if you’re into the bartering game.. lol
Plan for it? No.
Plan to use it if it comes available? Yes.
I feel confident that I can pick up any weapon and use it within seconds. Military training gave me a lot of variation, including weapons from various other countries. That being said, I'm going to prep to have the best that works for me already. BPUs might be a backup, or might even be a rare upgrade, but I'm not going to plan to have to get one. One of the main reasons for that is that anyone better equipped than me, is not going to be giving up that gear easily. More than likely, I'd rather avoid that conflict. Add to it, that persons geared that well, will probably not be alone.
So, I'd advise not planning to get that gear, but plan to be able to use it if you do.
It's like advanced First Aid supplies, have them,
some one may know how to use them.
Exactly my thoughts as well!
Never pick up a deadman’s gun it didn’t do him any good
I would recommend that before you use ANY battlefield pickup, I would break it down and make sure it will work without blowing up. I would also not use the ammo in the mag. It may be booby trapped like we did in 'nam.....
Excellent point and suggestion.
like was failed spectacularly in nam. yea it happened but so insanely rarely lolololol. you really think sog was bringing in crates of ammo all the time with 1 or 2 rounds in the crate enough times to be effective? or enough times to create a psychological myth? i mean seriously think about the logistics of sneaking into enemy camps with enough bad ammo to actually be physically effective. hahahaha it was a psy-op through and through. a couple rifles blow up and the enemies believed it would happen more..........
Battlefield pickup sounds like the easiest IED 😅
No joke
Use fishing pole.
ok and what something sounds like vs real world experience is different. i havent heard of one single story of a battlefield pickup being used as a trap. sorry bro but that guy that was using his rifle when he went down didnt quickly sabotage his gun as hes pointlessly pleading with his god.
@@joshmiller9783 this is assuming you saw it dropped. A rule of thumb in the gwot was don't touch anything conspicuously left on the ground.
@@joshmiller9783 Real world experiences has taught me that enemy combatants have used grenades under their bodies so when you roll them off their weapon it goes off. Treating it like an IED is one of the safer tactics.
It is truly not a plan-it’s an opportunity
I mock train. I pretend my AR is an AK, and practice like it is, kinda like air guitar. XD
Haha now that is strategy
"Battlefield" pickups are an absolute roll of the dice and somewhat worst case scenario, any gun left on the field is suspect after being shot up, blown up or thrown up, the time to have foreign or obscure weapons fam does not include a non permissible/hostile environment...ymmv
It is certainly a gamble to bet on it rather than working on something now.
Since the Glock 19 and AR 15 are the most popular,
chances are in SHTF you would be most likely to come
across those ammo's. Not only that, it will probably be already loaded mags.
Also a good way to get; holsters, plates, fresh boots, etc... just say'in.
Beware of traps, unless you see the take down.
There is a reason they are preached about
I've never thought of battlefield pickups as whole systems. Mags, rounds, supply and medical, that's about it.
If you blindly grabbed my rifle, your in for a bad time. I'm a near sighted lefty. Good luck
Well…your plate rack shooting reminds me of that Meatloaf song - 4 out of 5 ain’t bad…as far as battlefield pick ups go, don’t ever pick them up people!…..more for me!
In the game I play id leave a gun or other loot out in the open while I lay and hide waiting for someone to come by
A risk indeed
Tarkov? 😅
The amount of scavengers who think its viable for long term survival without preparation that will end up dead is staggering
It's a "plan"
I remember an old guy back in the 90's and I was doing remodeling at his house. He showed me some drum fed auto he picked up like that in WWII. He said he mailed it back to his parents house in 2 or 3 boxes at different times and when the war was over and he was sent back he got his boxes his parents put in a corner and assembled his "spoils of war" trophy 🏆
John Brown had the ultimate BFP at Harpers Ferry
Magic, in the coyote story I was telling you about, I almost made a rookie mistake. Everything I run has a RDR of some variety. My truck gun that I used has a Vortex 1-4 on it. I remember looking for the dot for a second before I actually dropped the first coyote. I'd say you'd need to apply this to picked up weapons as well,
Good advice. Thanks
Battlefield pickups are probably best used for buddy guns and building up your MAG.
when you have armor, night vision, night sights, silencer, subsonic ammo option and brains enough to stay in a tunnel all but 1 hour per night and scan 360 with thermal every 5 minutes, the odds of you getting "pickups" go WAY up. :-)
I agree with your point that relying on battlefield pickups as a primary plan for acquiring a weapon system is a bad idea. However, I am excited about the possibility of collecting battlefield pickups as replacement weapons systems, weapons to issue new group members, and weapons to be used as spare parts. Also, battlefield pickups are not just weapons. You can get some good equipment, gear, uniforms, and boots from the battlefield. Take what they got; they don't need it anymore. Only get battlefield pickups when it is safe to do so. Don't risk your life to pick something up! If you think something is booby-trapped, tie some 550 cord to it, get behind some cover, and pull the cord.
Try battlefield pickup of a similar type, such as AR-15 to M4, very similar types. Not to foreign types until your familiar with them. My opinion
Doesn’t matter how much you have stocked , whatever you can get from the group that you defeated or you stumble on a scene where a battle went down it should be a priority of stripping all bodies down to keep your stocks up as much as possible. Eventually you run out of stuff and anything you can get will be a GOD send.
Spot on MP
"Eldest Son" magazines.
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The ONLY safe battlefield pickup is either a Ford or Toyota
Hilux or Land Cruiser....very few places on earth where one of those two hasn't driven across, over or around.
It’s the Toyota Hilux man. With a rocket pod or heavy MG BOLTED to the bED. It’s that or nothing
Even grenades. If army retreats they can leave boxes of grenades with timer set to less than second. And you expect 3.4-4.5 seconds when you activate. Surprise in your hand
Well, there's battlefield pick-ups and then there's captured weapons like trophies. I'd stay away from dropped weapons, I mean, there's probably a reason it was dropped.
Just watch battle footage from Ukraine and you will see all kinds of platforms. Some is really cool stuff.
There is a lot of variety over there right now
and they pick up ammo all the time form deadmens backpacks and use it right away. yea stuff can be booby trapped but you have to be pretty dumb to booby trap your own guns before you pass or as you pass........ like im not carrying 1 bad round in 1 of the 8 mags in my pack prepared for someone to kill me and then use that one bad round in that one specific mag. thats quite literally planning to die.
This is the one justification I can see rentals actually being worth it.
Not a bad idea.
Thank you Magic !!!
Thank you as well!
Look at the Korean War, 1500 would charge, only half would have a gun, when one gets shot or killed, his weapon would go to someone behind him, A crazy way to fight, charge into battle hoping someone gets killed so you can get armed.
If you’re in the US, it’s prolly some cheap AR. If you’re in many countries, it’s a rusty AK
Everyone at Midway can thank me for sending their kids to college 💲💲
This would never happen lol. Im just gonna walk into to woods and find a rifle ? Slim chance but not impossible. Just make sure you have your own weapon
Having your own is a good idea
Can you make a video on your favorite brand of pistol freedom seeds, range & defense please.? Or Did you make one a while back.? I heard Winchester is the worst.
Hopefully, they are sighted correctly...
Yeah. I don't plan on battlefield pick up. But I have been thinking I should know the manual of arms and basic field stripping of odd guns I might find. G3's and FALs ect. I'm sure if I had time I could work it out. But time is not always available. That SKS I used to joke about maybe a lifeline in desperate times.
This is why semi auto, pump, bolt, lever, single and double capable firearms will be everybody's best friend. You don't want to be spraying and praying intermediate to large caliber, when there is no resupply around the corner.
As for battlefield pickups ammo & mags and high tec kit like NV , thermals & optics are high on my list. Rigs & beltfeds & rockets next. Lol. Grenades are always handy.
Any "battlefield pickup" these days will be rfid'd apple air podded and or booby trapped. Pick it up, take it back to your bunker and the drones and robot dogs will be knocking on your door with small ordinance to dispatch you expeditiously.
“Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation” - 2 Corinthians 6:2
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@@MagicPrepper changing subject; we have not had that much of a spike in crime from the migrant situation around here.
Curious and concerning....
Hey Matt if you listen to this in 1.5 speed it sounds like you’ve gone full auto 😝
We don’t have any AKs in Canada so I’ll stick with my banned AR 😂
Yall have a big pile of SKS up there though.
@@jbissonette45 😆 yup, we sure do lol but it still doesn’t beat what you guys have, get em while you can my friend, the future is looking very uncertain.
*build them...we will build them.
Im planning/hoping that I find me a ak or something cool with lots of ammo.
Weapons abandoned in afganistan, never used, only dropped once.
Wait 2 weeks…whole bunch of bass pro Rambo’s and AR walkers looking for food…do i currently own these? No. Can I run them? Yes. I’m old so I’m gonna play defense from over watch from at least 500yds. Defense for me so don’t FAFO!
Good video, thanks for sharing YAH bless !
Cacunk cacunk.. 30 cal. ...
Well thus actually happened to Russian soldiers and another country. Both countries had the same guns so the Russians changed there ammo. They put a lip on the caseing so there rifles would fire it and the other countries guns would hold the bolt open a smidge and blow up when they fired the gun. That's why you get 7.62x54"R" for Russian compliant ammo.
Love the rifle
It's a really fun setup.
That's it... ya boy is going to be doing "zero to hero" during conflict. I'll even get it on GoPro for content. Obviously, it's a joke... unless...
I’m still betting most people will die from tainted water and poop related diseases.
It’s not hard to get a a few sawyer mini filters for on the move and and a few of the several gallon hanging bags that drain through a tube into a vessel below.
But hey. I know I and my family is good 🤷🏼♂️. (You can actually learn a lot about yourself, weather, abilities, mentality and gear through going backpacking btw… especially in the mountains)
Aside from tactical cool guy stuff rucking a pack in the mountain is probably one of the best way to see how you do under different conditions and what gear works for season and what stuff breaks after a week.
What foregrip is that?
I have taught my boy's well, they can run any gun
AR15 for battlefield supremacy.... Being in America Ar15mags are prevelant and universal compared to AK47 mags. Especially how you will find more glock mags compatibility with all glock clone pistols. :D
Honestly….I’m trying to figure out how stash a tank😂😂😂😂 piss on small arms…joke.
Here's what I think about battlefield pickups:
Buy your own rifle and ammo, and train with it to proficiency. Don't depend on scavenging for resources unless you have no other choices. That's like being a benchwarmer for your team and not bringing any of your own equipment, assuming you'll just use your teammate's stuff when they get fouled out. It's lazy and irresponsible.
Hell in Canuckistan (Canada) we’re screwed for even being able to train with most semis now. Hopefully the OIC (order in council) for forth by our communist government gets reversed with the new elected government seeing how the OIC was justified by false claims and disinformation about LAGO,s ( lawfully abiding gun owners). We will see what happens very soon.
Watch out for booby traps on the Battlefield pick up
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Some good information in these comments. Loot at your own risk.
Running and gunning in full auto during SHTF? Boy it sure sounds fun up until you realize you’re not Rambo with plot armor, its not call of duty in real life, you’re not in the US military with a massive logistics system and an entire country feeding it and keeping it stocked.
Get in a firefight and take the people out that you can see then run out to grab their gear? Sounds amazing until you figure out you missed one guy heavily concealed with some patience. You’re not going to live to enjoy your trophies…
I’m WAYYY more into old west firearms than what the government calls evil weapons of war. When I first started prepping I had to make the hard decision to sell of the wheel, lever and bolt guns I love the most to give me a good start on my prepping journey. I kept a couple of them but the vast majority went bye bye to help me where I wanted to be as quickly as I could. If I subscribed to the loot pickup theory I would have kept what I had..
Direct quote from a Marine combat veteran I’ve trained with. “In SHTF my trigger finger will run plenty fast enough, I won’t be in the Marine corps..”…
Interesting perspective and well thought out.
lolol the 2A isnt for shtf end of the world. the founding fathers wrote articles and articles and articles of what its about.
@@joshmiller9783 I know exactly what the true intent of the 2nd amendment is.. It’s not about self defense from common street thugs, home invasions and carjackings either.. From the looks of how comfortable the citizens are SHTF is more plausible than what the 2nd amendment is about. Open your eyes. You have half the country wanting to disarm the US citizens and the majority of the other half thinking a billionaire playboy, business man was sent by god to ride in on a white horse and save us in 4 years. And that’s after he already was president and advocated to disarm the US citizens via the backdoor and making it harder for citizens to exercise their 2nd amendment himself..
Even during what the 2nd amendment is about, only an idiot would be running around mag dumping in full auto.. You’re not in the movies, it won’t be a video game turning into reality and you won’t be in the military..
@@joshmiller9783 News for you. Running around mag dumping in full auto during what the 2nd amendment is about is just as retarded as doing it in SHTF.
Watch out for a frag under your prize .Just saying
Don't forget those dog tags and ID cards during your Battlefield pickup perfect propaganda material
For the algo.
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bro battlefield pick ups are generally the only way a guerilla rearms. lol yall think the 2A is about shtf and not what its quite literally actually for.
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