Redcat Ascent 18 VS Hobbyplus Evo Pro!

[@Steve_J81]

The logical answer on which one to get is both 🤣

[@2fmrc]

I totally agree!

[@iramirez95020]

It's a wash 😂

[@GNCRC]

Exactly!

[@jordannorman1314]

Its not a wash. Only reason any of these clowns on youtube is salesman. You're stupid if you think this clown any different

[@jordannorman1314]

Go get you a redcat and hit the trail. You'll be pissed and wondering why in minutes and ain't gonna be no custom redcats!!!!!!!! They are junk and this dude is fake a.f

[@charlieshankles]

True addicts will get both. I have been loving the evo pro, and the redcat is on the way. Great review

[@nathanross5406]

Well said. I too love my evo pro and I have a grey redcat on the way! Can’t wait!!

[@SingleSpeedRC]

I got the redcat for my 4 year old so he would stop asking to drive my Evo pro 😅. The Redcat def blows away any SCX or even FCX out of the box.

[@TheMumblingRonin]

The Redcat gives me the same feeling that the scx24's gave me 4 years ago, a great entry price and solid mechanical foundation that can be made better by playing with free mods and slowly investing to build up a super capable crawler that is uniquely yours. The CR-18 and Furitek platforms are very capable and you get a lot out of the box, but that honestly makes me feel like you are buying a mostly finished product, and finished with parts that as you said you may not necessarily have chosen. I would rather save the money up front and spend the difference making the Redcat even better in the exact ways that I want.

[@mattyf1492]

Just bought the redcat ascent 18 and did full brass on it, and it is such a beast! Really love it

[@joshfowler197]

I think it would be cool to do a truck shootout. Start with stock trucks, then put the same wheels and tires on all of them. And any mods done to 1, do to all of them. And keep a tally of how each performs. That would be a pricier series though

[@MrsRabbit8]

RedCat for the win IMO.
I was having a hard time figuring out why i skip every video on the EVO, and now i think i know why...
I don't like already upgraded RTR, and felt this way about the Furitek too.
I want a quality base to work from, with upgrades, and a base that is suited for modding... the RedCat seems to have that.
Also, when i make another trail-truck then i want a 2 speed, one speed for crawling, and one speed for the trail.
All of the 2 speeds that I've seen have not had the best ratios for that though, and I've found that i usually end up going for the ideal single speed transmission for crawling.
Thank you for the video, always looking for that 2fmrc icon to pop up!

[@PittsburghCrawling]

That’s a wild way to think, my evo pro is a mashup with fury wagon electronics, evo frame, and furitek venom. The evo pro is a fantastic starting point but the main issue is how large the big block motor is. I call my truck the Fury Wagon Pro, the evo pro is by far one of the best frames to work with. I kept the 2 speed tranny from the evo pro, I have unreal slow crawl and when I put it in high gear I can do probably 10+ mph doing donuts. It’s the perfect truck, sorry you haven’t tinkered with them enough to know.

[@MrsRabbit8]

@@PittsburghCrawling i see, you're probably correct.
I should try one out sometime.
Always fun making Franken-crawlers!
The last 2 speed i saw was definitely not ideal. The slow was too slow.
Gearing down all the way actually kindof sucks IMO.
There's no substitute for power.
I had one of these big can motors on my scx24 3 or 4yrs ago... stock everything, but with the big motor (Dynamite 280 i think). It had awesome slow crawl and incredible punch. Not good sidehill.
Burned my stock esc up of course.
But it was fun!
So the Evo has a great base to build from? I'll put that down for my next build. Thank you.

[@MrLenzotik]

I have both. Pre ordered the new cayman pro that's teasing me in the back. Can't wait to see a video on it!

[@bigtreesfall]

Redcat did good one this one.
They definitely put some pressure on the market.

[@DTW-bx2vy]

How exactly, you must be talking about the asking price right?

[@marcus-hoonigan7]

Just ordered the Redcat A. super stoked!!!! Thanks for the review bro!!! It's on sale right now for 99$

[@MrTimmyGT]

I literally just got both of these in the mail yesterday 😂. With my VERY limited running I can say that both trucks are a lot of fun and very capable out of the box but the Evo is definitely a better performer. Excited to get some upgrades on the Redcat to see what its really capable of!

[@2fmrc]

Yep! Definitely feels more planted than the Redcat. I think over time the Redcat will be more of a truck to build with than the Evo though.

[@CK4RC]

This is the comparison I've been waiting for. Thanks for this!

[@JacobScherer]

Heck yeah thanks for the video. I agree with you, I can't wait to see what we can do with the RedCat in the aftermarket gets bigger.

[@andrewrichey7374]

Awesome Matt, here watching now 9:22 AM Thursday morning rainy day no work cool. Well I like the looks of the Hobby plus. 👍👍😎

[@2fmrc]

Hope you have a great day! I definitely think the hobbyplus looks a little better. Both are great trucks for the price!

[@timsheldon6367]

I've had the Evo Pro for several months now, and just got the Redcat yesterday.... all those that are saying "just get both"...YUP! That's the answer... Can't go wrong with either and Matt summed up the differences perfectly. Really wish there was more aftermarket for all the CR18P variants, because there are a bunch of really good ones out there...but what little support there is, is kinda pricey....that said, it's great the Redcat came out will all the hop-ups right away, because outside of Redcat, there's nothing for the Ascent 18 yet.... Hoping to see that develop over time. And all you Makers out there....let's support this platform and get those Ascent 18 STLs posted up on Thingiverse!!!

[@PittsburghCrawling]

All the parts you need to look for are for the fx118. They’re the same thing

[@DTW-bx2vy]

Best thing about the CR18P Evo Pro & FX118 models is they do not really needs any modifications compared to others vehicles in there class to perform excellent. Anyone that owns one of these rigs already knows this.

[@mikeobrien4104]

The redcat got me back into the micro. I’ve been extremely impressed with it so far.

[@jimbo4203]

I'm all about....bang for the buck 😊 And RedCat wins !

[@DTW-bx2vy]

Yep cheap always wins, until you find out other wise. Like the saying goes "You get what you pay for".

[@andrewrichey7374]

Oh yeah i’m always here to the end, got out yesterday to test my FCX 10 I love it it performed great all the functions work great the dig disengage is when you disengage it, my axial early bronco, You have to kind of take a little reverse to disengage. Ready love the justable drag break on the radio. And the super slow control crawl I just felt I had control of a truck in any situation . Next to my Vanquish hi do believe my favorite crawler 👍👍 well as always appreciate you sharing, I’ll watch for the next one until then peace and chicken grease 😁😁👋👋😎

[@user-xd8ng9fc2m]

Run that collared spring down on the Hobby n should fix that up a bit.
Gr8 video n info!!!
Definitely getting that redcat when in stock ..

[@stefan-norge]

Really good comparison 👍🏻 Would take the Redcat, but cannot buy it here in Switzerland and shipping from the States means double the prize 🤪

[@jonathanmcdonald5411]

Great vid bro! I'm gonna go with the Redcat. The money you save can go towards some upgrades to make it heavier and more capable. I really like that the Redcat has full bearings out of the box too.

[@ynadworks8163]

The most surprising on the redcat for me is the options for the link adjustment. On the transmission side. You can tilt it down if desired or better place the links to be parallel to each other.
With just the electronics and battery repositioned plus heavier wheels it outperforms my modded rigs.

[@LowLyfe7583]

Can you share details on where you mounted your parts? I'm new to this hobby but already have 2 Ascend 18s. 1 stock and 1 with brass injoras and JC monolithic tires. They're a ton of fun

[@AnyAssumptionBanter]

Thanks for your honesty. I have a lot to say which is very similar to what you show here. I was saying similar things regarding the con's of the ascent and ppl were just busting me up. Redcat had the opportunity to do better and more innovation and they missed the opportunity.

[@matthewcopeland4441]

Appreciate the video!
Both rigs will bind to the same transmitter, they share the same protocol.
CR18P platform has OD gears available from Furitek, HobbyPlus, and Power Hobby.
Redcat having hobby shop support is definitely a big plus.

[@2fmrc]

Yeah but for some reason the drag brake don’t work on the Redcat when you use other controllers. It just free rolls too easily with any of the other transmitters I’ve tried.

[@matthewcopeland4441]

@@2fmrcTo be fair I never even tried the stock TX, but am disappointed with the drag brake. Maybe that is the issue.

[@snorrevonflake]

I really wonder why there are so few aftermarket parts and even hard to get spare parts for the Evo Pro/CR18 platform. Imo thats much better and more interesting than the Traxxas, FMS and Redcat Crawlers. Injora introduced TONS of parts for the Ascent 18 within a few weeks. But left out the CR18 completely.

[@MysticRiverRC]

Ascent 18 first must do mod: get a Deadhead sticker on it! LOL! I ordered inner/outer portal covers, diff covers, and steering links in heavy brass all from Injora. I'm saving the free mods for the fine tuning, as it makes no sense to make tiny changes just to then slam brass on it. So big steps towards the goal, then the baby steps.

[@BangForYourBuckRc]

Really nice side by side comparo! Out of the box, both of these perform well. I don’t go crazy on mods but I do do Some brass. Everything from Redcat seems to be friendlier to my wallet, which is the deciding factor for me in the end. RBI’s price is just a tad more than I want to pay. Maybe I’ll catch one on sale, but for now I’ll just enjoy my Redcat! Again great job on this!👊🏼😎👍🏻

[@brandonwynn9801]

Great comparison. Now I'm gonna need you to swap axles and run this video back lol

[@timrunnels8505]

Got the redcat on the way ❤🎉🎉🎉

[@Casitascrawlers]

Nice view & comparison I’m surprised how well the Redcat did if it’s stock I’m definitely getting one I have a Evo Pro brushless that has a bunch of upgrades metal axles Reefs brushless servo full bearings aluminum high clearance links & front steering links & Meus 1.3 wheels n tires. I have my driveshaft switched in the rear & have front brass outer portal covers & aluminum inner. It has some good weight to it now & goes up 1:10 scale lines it’s a serious little Crawler. I have the 1:10 Ascent so for that price I’ll definitely take one. 👍

[@RedRoxRc]

Great video. Awesome side by side looks. Good job sir.

[@mzondi1970]

I don't have the redcat but I do have a Evo pro with stainless steel little guy racing Black label tires and wheels and some other small things like weights and it's a beast

[@teambrorc2495]

Let’s go!! 👏👏I was about to see which I buy lol😂. Thanks for the video.

[@DeliberateNRandom]

I bought the RedCat because I have a few SCX24s, FMS Atlas 6x6, Panda Hobbies Mercedes 4x4, Easy RC Triton and TRX-4M. I think this does well, but being top-heavy is the weakest link. I got around our indoor course just fine, others in our RC group that had theirs like it and say it performed well, but it would roll, but we're thinking better than the SCX24 bone stock, and cheaper.

[@yiarkungfu]

Got both of them. Should get both in a few days.

[@GarryWiles]

You can add a lot of Redcat upgrades to the Ascent for the price difference between the two.

[@archerash6695]

Crazy.. right out of the box and the servo hits the motor..
Sometimes I wonder as to how thing stuff gets passed.

[@jayfarthing]

Really liking the look of the Redcat, hoping it becomes available in the UK - looks to be a bit of hassle ordering it from Redcat directly right now, no shipping to the UK without spending more. The narrow axles, turning circle and lack of drive slop appeal massively to me. It would make a nice contrast to the FCX24 and CR18P I already have, even though I'd prefer a nice compact transmitter. Big appeal on the small scale stuf is chucking it in a bag and being portable, having a full size transmitter is a little annoying.

[@nathanross5406]

Just so you know the small fms radios work with axial trucks, maybe it would work on redcat?

[@jayfarthing]

@@nathanross5406 yeh, it does. One of the other videos showed this, but mentioned that it stopped the drag brake working, annoyingly!

[@nathanross5406]

Oh that sucks

[@JUSTHAVEFUNRC]

Matt, if you get the chance I’d love to see the ascent full stock, vs the cayman pro with the Evo pro body. The most budget rtr vs the most expensive RTR. I know how it’ll go but it would be cool to see two ends of the class face off.

[@2fmrc]

Well idk? Had a little issue with the cayman pro servo so at the moment the Redcat would walk it 😆

[@JUSTHAVEFUNRC]

@@2fmrc well that’s a shame… lol

[@erikcastillo4254]

These after market parts need to come out sooner 😂 I’m about to bite the bullet and buy the redcat stuff. I’m itching for some upgrades. 😂

[@knightmare4385]

🧐Cayman V2 hanging out lol👀😎💪

[@danielfox3199]

Red cat for me ! Much love from Michigan ty sir!

[@JS-ji5bl]

Dude I been wanting to see them on the rocks together...

[@TYLERLOVESBMX1]

what aftermarket axles/driveshafts would fit the ascent18? are there any axles or shafts that work made for other trucks like trx4m or fcx18? trying to put a cart together but cant figure out axles, links and shafts for the ascent18. thanks

[@Thedutchman110.]

Is it possible to swap the new Evo pro angled chassis onto the recently released Furrytek wagon?

[@TrokaRC]

#Ascent18 should arrive at my door next few days, excited 💯 %

[@ChrisMesser]

The drivetrain slop in the Evo Pro is driving me insane in practical usage - makes controlled starts and descents very difficult. Anybody have a solution for this?

[@SingleSpeedRC]

Just figured out fyi that the Redcats esc/transmitter will bind to the fms/furitek/hobby plus transmitter.
Makes sense since the Gen2 SCX electronics that came with the same controller as the redcat also would bind with those transmitters.

[@2fmrc]

Yeah I tried it but for some reason all of the other transmitters I’ve been able to bind to it there’s no drag brake on the Redcat with them. It’s odd lol

[@SingleSpeedRC]

@@2fmrc damn your right I only drove it around the living room, put it on a little incline and it rolled right back down. Though I was onto something 😂

[@PittsburghCrawling]

I also don’t want to be that guy but a true comparison would be these trucks on the same tire wheel setup. That would be a better demonstration and put the evo pro further ahead.

[@PittsburghCrawling]

I am half tempted to send my rig to you and test it against a modded ascent. It’s a evo pro combined with the furitek fury wagon.

[@RCplamodel]

Thank you for sharing a good video with a nice car! 💯👍👍

[@nxprss8326]

Have you tried putting the evo pro body on the redcat?? If so how does it fit ??

[@Friskee62]

Get both, I did...

[@orechova1]

What about that Orange Cayman V2 in the back????

[@Bonitacreekrc2]

will any scx24 links fit on the redcat

[@DearDiaryMe]

tbh im skeptical there will be available aftermarket parts on red redcat in the future.

[@FiveFourRacing]

Is the skid spacing the same between them I'm thinking redcat of evo chasis and body

[@MrJohney]

Both look like awesome little rigs. I just don't like the bodies.

[@DEENRC]

I need to drive the £1000s of trucks I already have

[@2fmrc]

Same here! Lol

[@GNCRC]

Great video! 🔥🔥🔥

[@2fmrc]

Really appreciate it!

[@rcjoe406]

Hate to bring up scale cause people go nuts but the accent 18 is the size of a scx24 deadbolt and not one review says anything about this unless you have 😊

[@2fmrc]

I mentioned it in my original ascent video and compared it to others but not in this one

[@woody2578]

I see the v2 Cayman in the background, anything changed or improved from the szx besides the body? Hopefully you’ll do a side by side comparison. On the fence with preordering the v2 Cayman or Katana.

[@2fmrc]

It’s pretty decked out. Just needs a servo 😆

[@woody2578]

Hopefully the overdrive gears fit without issue 😉

[@fuse557]

Evo Pro all day!

[@2fmrc]

It is a killer truck!

[@AgeOrmstad]

Nice video 🤙

[@patrickgeorge4306]

Are there any benefits to the redcat chassis being narrow at each end? Like, why do you think they made that design choice?

[@2fmrc]

Not sure why they did that honestly. It makes modding it tough for sure

[@rickhenson-ct7bc]

Both lol, Redcat first

[@TOYitCUTE]

which 😅ne ?
yes

[@archerash6695]

📖 I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me ✨️

[@josephhoover5737]

If the Redcat looked better...

[@BIKE_BEERS_AND_DEATH_METAL]

🤘🛻🏔🍻

[@jordannorman1314]

I thought dude was legit till this. Redcat is absolutely garbage. No support and dude is so fake and plays it off . 60$ difference yes but everything on the other is better and parts much cheaper. Dude is fake and anyone who knows anything at all about rc knows redcat is junk

[@2fmrc]

Wow! Not a Redcat fan huh? So every part on the hobbyplus is better? Hobbyplus?!!! Really? Do you even have both? I know the answer to that lol. Both great trucks imo but you don’t wanna hear an opinion obviously because you know it all already and no one else knows anything. Get out of here ✌️