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    Death Grips is back online, teasing some new material that sounds pretty insane. But the real insanity surrounding the experimental hip hop outfit happened exactly 10 years ago. This is the INSANE Story Behind No Love Deep Web
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Комментарии • 271

  • @Cyranek
    @Cyranek 2 года назад +440

    I was very surprised to see the album cover unblurred when I bought the vinyl

  • @slyfan64
    @slyfan64 2 года назад +1322

    I never knew “I’m in Jimmy Page’s castle” had any context

  • @dingyQLF
    @dingyQLF 2 года назад +554

    Bro I remember how frustrating it was to catch these guys live 10 years ago
    Kept canceling or just flat out not show up 🤣
    Finally caught them live a few times
    Worth the wait
    Such intense shwos

    • @Megamon0001
      @Megamon0001 2 года назад +7

      I caught them once in 2017. Shit was great

    • @roy_for_real2674
      @roy_for_real2674 2 года назад

      saw them. they didn't have any other bands or artists play in the place that evening and they came like an hour late. Dicks on sticks.

    • @kinoepigrafe
      @kinoepigrafe 2 года назад +2

      Well, you have a new chance now, I suppose

    • @dsxa918
      @dsxa918 Год назад +2

      Shwos 2k23

    • @thecosmicblueautie
      @thecosmicblueautie Год назад +3

      Now that people are throwing shit at artists, they may not be as punctual again.

  • @DissectingtheDisco
    @DissectingtheDisco 2 года назад +418

    No mention of the alternate reality game they set up which teased the No Love Deep Web release date before it happened? That's like half the story! They sent their fans on an internet goose chase for a handful of days to promote the album, which was pretty cool imo.

    • @doxophobiac
      @doxophobiac 2 года назад +37

      Basically any death grips related video is going to either consist of missing information or a plethora straight up factual inaccuracy *coughsongpsychcough* (or both), it’s sadly just par for the course at this point since their history isn’t the most well documented out there.

    • @nolansalamander7953
      @nolansalamander7953 2 года назад +11

      Yeah, when this video popped up that's what I thought it was going to be about!

    • @DissectingtheDisco
      @DissectingtheDisco 2 года назад +7

      @@doxophobiac what was inaccurate about songpsych’s iceberg video? :((

    • @brendanberentschot5228
      @brendanberentschot5228 2 года назад

      Right??

    • @wackyclock
      @wackyclock 2 года назад

      @@doxophobiac Master Bate

  • @thecosmicblueautie
    @thecosmicblueautie 2 года назад +442

    A few people I know hate Death Grips because they seem to really embrace publicity stunts that piss off their biggest fans, but as one who enjoys their music, I wouldn't have minded if they cancelled the tour if it meant two things: 1) they say they are looking to fulfill their original promise of releasing two albums in the same year and 2) the album is good enough to justify the sacrifice. Luckily, to me, the album is pretty damn good. "Come Up and Get Me", "No Love", "Artificial Death in the West" and "Stockton" are personal instant faves.

    • @huntercurry8604
      @huntercurry8604 2 года назад

      "A few people I know hate Death Grips because they seem to really embrace publicity stunts that piss off their biggest fans"
      This has nothing to do with how the music sounds, glad they stopped listening.

    • @MonoKrohm_2020
      @MonoKrohm_2020 Месяц назад +1

      “Lock your Doors” is underrated af too. Beat is absolutely filthy

    • @sheninmypie
      @sheninmypie 19 дней назад

      i LOVE no love lmao

  • @williampamula290
    @williampamula290 2 года назад +109

    Learned about death grips in 2014 in 8th grade, my English teacher played npr tiny desk concert in the morning and he was great drummer in a friends band. He taught me a lot about punk rock history and gave a lot of material and reading, I asked him one day about death grips and he told me zack hill and his insane work ethic, and how he’s from sac which is where I’m from. He also told me about zacks old band hella which is NorCal classic.

  • @tokeryule5347
    @tokeryule5347 2 года назад +169

    First time I immediately clicked a RUclips notification ☠️

  • @Vuchatra
    @Vuchatra 2 года назад +23

    Great video man, loved the build up, it hits close, they're one of those bands that change you.

  • @iliamasih
    @iliamasih 2 года назад +16

    Love your content I wish there were way more channels like this

  • @jimboweezer
    @jimboweezer 2 года назад +52

    I was just watching magic the gathering videos so funny seeing you talk about it here. Also I’ve listened to every death grips album multiple times except NLDW. I’m saving it for a day where death grips is no more and I need new music from them. Great video

  • @MultiWolfLink
    @MultiWolfLink 2 года назад +8

    This is the first time I'm hearing of your channel! Huge fan of the boys :) this was kick ass!!

  • @thenightbladefeeds
    @thenightbladefeeds 2 года назад +96

    Somebody needs to make a video about the strong connection between Death Grips and Western Esotericism/Thelema/Magick because it informs everything they have ever done as a band and I have never seen anyone talk about it.

    • @memphiskash
      @memphiskash 2 года назад +1

      facts

    • @dullknifefactory
      @dullknifefactory 2 года назад +15

      Most who know would prefer to keep it a secret.

    • @dullknifefactory
      @dullknifefactory 2 года назад +21

      I say this because it's one thing to acknowledge Ride's mysticism but we don't know anything about him really so it'd be 10 minutes of assumptions. He strikes me as the type to stare blankly at you if you mentioned Crowley.

    • @thecosmicblueautie
      @thecosmicblueautie 2 года назад +1

      Does this include their usual move to have 13 songs every album they release (except for The Powers That B)?

    • @thenightbladefeeds
      @thenightbladefeeds 2 года назад +1

      @@thecosmicblueautie Yes. Not only that, but they've released 13 albums/eps so far

  • @danielpowers2191
    @danielpowers2191 2 года назад +21

    Still think the most of their popularity and recognition is yet to come. Won’t be until they completely disband forever that people really appreciate the levels they were on.

  • @mutedsqueakerHD
    @mutedsqueakerHD 8 месяцев назад +2

    I remember downloading it when it dropped, albums almost ALWAYS dropped at least a week or two early by one leak or another, but when I heard that the band leaked their own album I was shook

  • @wallnut4654
    @wallnut4654 2 года назад +1121

    I still apologise to my mom that she opened my no love deep web vinyl 💀

  • @LK-428
    @LK-428 2 года назад +40

    In terms of DG stand alone projects, NLDW is my favorite (NOTM is my actual favorite but yk it's a half of the album), the insane deliveries from Ride sound like he's about to die the entire time and *will* kill you if you approach him because he's afraid of you alongside some of their most threatening instrumentals make it a hell of a record, and the backstory behind the album makes you think that, given the music, of COURSE this was the type of rollout it underwent. The fact that Zach went and said that this was the closest they had, at the time, gotten to their initial vision of Death Grips when they started the project is also chilling, as shown here is arguably the most insane from-the-pits-of-hell-or-Sacto recordings these guys ever threw on tape. And even after several listens, this album STILL makes me feel like I'm in danger, or like I shouldn't be hearing this alone. Great, great album, holy hell.
    Edit: especially when you take into consideration these guys essentially went into hiding after releasing this and its tour, not showing up to their own concerts, releasing Birds and then Government Plates, with music viddys for EVERY track as a complete and total surprise, and promising a double album but only granting the first half for so long, it's just wild overall where they ended up going after this

  • @vb2388
    @vb2388 2 года назад +182

    Literally started listening to Death Grips..
    Completed the first 4 studio albums and Exmilitary..
    Amongst the 5, NLDW is my favourite, every song is a banger 🔥

    • @johnmichaelkirisits2721
      @johnmichaelkirisits2721 2 года назад

      have you tried bottomless pit?

    • @vb2388
      @vb2388 2 года назад +1

      @@johnmichaelkirisits2721 my next album is Bottomless Pit

    • @johnmichaelkirisits2721
      @johnmichaelkirisits2721 2 года назад +15

      @@vb2388 Oh boy, you’re gonna like bottomless pit

    • @n0wh3r3f4s7
      @n0wh3r3f4s7 2 года назад

      bp and yots are my favs

    • @vb2388
      @vb2388 2 года назад +14

      @@johnmichaelkirisits2721 bro Bottomless Pit is ridiculous, so many great hooks!!

  • @Existence_denied
    @Existence_denied Год назад +6

    What’s funny is that the music industry did this previously with other bands for example kenna’s new sacred cow the actual album was released in 1997 and was delayed until 2003.

  • @GandalfGreyhame3
    @GandalfGreyhame3 2 года назад +3

    Thanks i was hype for this whole vid!!

  • @docutheo76
    @docutheo76 2 года назад +43

    Why refer to death grips as a pair when they are a trio? I feel bad for flatlander... :(

    • @producedbyAntonio
      @producedbyAntonio 2 года назад +10

      Especially since he's probably the most pivotal member. But I have a feeling there's not much info about him out there

    • @gustave7619
      @gustave7619 2 года назад +16

      he is also not called flatlander at all but yeah

    • @docutheo76
      @docutheo76 2 года назад +2

      @@gustave7619 hey i was not aware of that. Thank you.

    • @noreverie
      @noreverie 2 года назад +1

      @@gustave7619 not anymore, he used to go by flatlander as an alt name

    • @scum1217
      @scum1217 2 года назад +15

      @@noreverie flat lander was never Andy’s name it has always been a term for referring to the group instead of just saying death grips they also went by flatlander… it’s been a misconception that it’s Andy for so long now and he’s even said that it’s not him it’s the group as a whole

  • @omartheauxgod
    @omartheauxgod 2 года назад +14

    Rest in peace Angelica Cobb-Baehler ❤️

  • @ChainikVlad
    @ChainikVlad 2 года назад +14

    The most insane thing is that DG still didn't released new albums, bruh.

  • @jesoos7426
    @jesoos7426 2 года назад +7

    Another classic by Middle 8!

  • @noahdommaschk
    @noahdommaschk 2 года назад +3

    Fantastic video with fabulous visuals!

  • @BBpoltergiest298
    @BBpoltergiest298 2 года назад +2

    Never thought you'd make a death grips video, this is such a surprise

  • @beckjj._.2990
    @beckjj._.2990 2 года назад +3

    amazing video, keep up the good work!

  • @Antonio_Ortiz
    @Antonio_Ortiz 2 года назад +10

    Always was curious about this band. Time to check them out.

  • @yijunhong
    @yijunhong 2 года назад +14

    There was a whole ARG they made for this album that you missed

  • @patriciadillen6059
    @patriciadillen6059 2 года назад +2

    Was waiting for Middle 8 to talk about Death Grips 👏🙌

  • @mileslemon
    @mileslemon 2 года назад +12

    cant believe its been 10 fucking years man

  • @REDACTED0451
    @REDACTED0451 2 года назад +9

    Ex-Military was their first mixtape but you forgot to mention their first release, the Death Grips EP.

  • @cyrusreese5813
    @cyrusreese5813 2 года назад +38

    “The duo?” What about Andy? And you cut him out of the picture?

    • @thecosmicblueautie
      @thecosmicblueautie 2 года назад +3

      I think he was saying that No Love Deep Web was purely made as a duo.

    • @cyrusreese5813
      @cyrusreese5813 2 года назад +1

      @@thecosmicblueautie wait was it?

    • @Middle8
      @Middle8  2 года назад +26

      From what I was reading, much of No Love and their LA hotel stay was just the two of them. I think Andy aids in production occasionally and in live performances

    • @wavybonez183
      @wavybonez183 2 года назад +23

      @@Middle8 Andy is THE production guy. He's been with them since the beginning, he just wasn't present because even though they weren't supposed to tour for NLDW following the Epic situation, they found a loophole by only performing as 2/3rds of the group. Andy was elsewhere either fighting the legal battle or working on the next album.

    • @someone-iv2nt
      @someone-iv2nt 2 года назад +4

      @@Middle8 Listening to Andy's personal work, I'd say he had a hand in it more than production. Definitely was the star of GP though.

  • @AaronLaZox
    @AaronLaZox 2 года назад +7

    never clicked on a middle 8 video so fast and ive been loving a lot of them

  • @swaggerdagger8976
    @swaggerdagger8976 2 года назад +2

    Bro perfect timing i just re-listened to NLDW a few days ago and was wondering if there was a vid about the arg they did

  • @chinchirap2
    @chinchirap2 2 года назад +14

    Awesome video, a lot things I didn't know were here. But why did you not include Andy Morin in any part of the video lol, I reckon he has a lot to do with the production (even though it's mostly Zach) and he does a lot live too.

    • @youtubeuserdan4017
      @youtubeuserdan4017 2 года назад +3

      Yeah weird editing choice.

    • @Middle8
      @Middle8  2 года назад +11

      From another comment: [Andy's] been with them since the beginning, he just wasn't present because even though they weren't supposed to tour for NLDW following the Epic situation, they found a loophole by only performing as 2/3rds of the group. Andy was elsewhere either fighting the legal battle or working on the next album.

    • @youtubeuserdan4017
      @youtubeuserdan4017 2 года назад +3

      @@Middle8 Understandable but I don't remember this information being explained or included in the video even though I think it could have benefited from doing so.
      Not saying it's a bad video- the storytelling was great and easy to digest; the visuals are awesome and kept me engaged.

    • @alexmaur8817
      @alexmaur8817 2 года назад +11

      That's cause he was in Iceland fucking Bjork and recording the source material for NATM lol

    • @youtubeuserdan4017
      @youtubeuserdan4017 2 года назад +2

      @@alexmaur8817 Bruh 💀

  • @agustmi04
    @agustmi04 2 года назад +4

    loved this video, you should talk about king krule whos also starting to put on some new album thing after almost 3 years now

  • @geordiejones5618
    @geordiejones5618 Год назад

    The thing that'll always keep Death Grips mysterious is that we're never gonna see the release of outtakes or B Sides or hear any behind the scenes stories. This is as close as we get to context for any one DG project. It is funny that what many consider either their best album or at least their most accessible, was done under the watch for a few key individuals as major record label that heard these guys and gave them a chance, but once the label wanted to put them in their place, that's where they really took their artistry into their own hands.

  • @Spinorez
    @Spinorez 2 года назад +7

    What the song playing at the beginning and the end of the video? Is it some remix?
    Great video, btw!

    • @Middle8
      @Middle8  2 года назад +4

      Mix by Joywalk

    • @guilhermeporto7128
      @guilhermeporto7128 2 года назад +1

      @@Middle8 i didn't find this mix :(

    • @joywalk
      @joywalk 2 года назад +5

      @@guilhermeporto7128 I haven't uploaded it, but I will be doing a big dump of a ton of tracks soon, including this one ✨

    • @guilhermeporto7128
      @guilhermeporto7128 2 года назад +2

      @@joywalk Thanks a lot man

    • @TadValente
      @TadValente 2 года назад +2

      @@joywalk fire track bro

  • @IceAgeProductions
    @IceAgeProductions 2 года назад +1

    great as always

  • @melm4251
    @melm4251 2 года назад +57

    i feel old cus i remember a lot of this as it happened. had a ticket to see em on that tour they cancelled, they did come back though after nldw was released and the show was amazing. also fantano blowing fans can stfu no love is their best album

    • @wallnut4654
      @wallnut4654 2 года назад +1

      for me it's ether no love or the power that's B

    • @trololo5540
      @trololo5540 2 года назад +2

      what does fantano have to do with any of this 💀💀. Also its pretty handily their worst

    • @someone-iv2nt
      @someone-iv2nt 2 года назад +7

      Why do people always manage to call out Fantano when talking abt DG music 💀
      I like his stuff and I also really like NLDW lol. Not their best record, though (my opinion). The Powers that B easily ups it. However, it (nldw) might be the most noided album they made.

    • @vertical2923
      @vertical2923 2 года назад +1

      steroids>>>>>

    • @mydrillasanjay5397
      @mydrillasanjay5397 Год назад

      ​@@trololo5540just flat out wrong

  • @dpo2078
    @dpo2078 2 года назад +1

    Yooo middle8! I had a hard time reading the red text on your RUclips banner against the background. I'd suggest tweaking it, but, that's just my opinion, anyway. The banner is dope banner tho, I had no idea of the meaning behind middle8!

  • @ohshiit9112
    @ohshiit9112 2 года назад +12

    I LOVE DEATH GRIPS!

  • @jdixon390
    @jdixon390 2 года назад +1

    Yooooo you're doing Death Grips!

  • @emstudies8791
    @emstudies8791 Год назад

    @Gattsu must be hype for new music

  • @JustAJauneArc
    @JustAJauneArc 2 года назад +1

    What's the name of the song that starts at 0:21? Is it a Death Grips song? The beat goes insane.

  • @pixie7639
    @pixie7639 2 года назад +4

    FINALLY DEATHGRIPS

  • @Poxyquotl
    @Poxyquotl 2 года назад +17

    Glad Deathgrips is getting some wider attention

    • @sher618
      @sher618 2 года назад

      Why?

    • @kg7219
      @kg7219 2 года назад +1

      they are pretty well known lol they had a song in westworld and have been memed a bunch since the early 2010s...

  • @Mrdered-xn5dm
    @Mrdered-xn5dm 2 года назад +2

    my favorite album of all the time

  • @my_wheelhouse
    @my_wheelhouse 2 года назад +1

    Do you take suggestions?
    If so can you please do some sort of video on the band Black Dice.

  • @everyvillainislemons7583
    @everyvillainislemons7583 2 года назад +3

    I miss them

  • @gonnabeamovie
    @gonnabeamovie 2 года назад

    This is dope!

  • @kraftyhandz
    @kraftyhandz 2 года назад

    Finally. Someone did it. Thank you.

  • @TheBigWhiteGun
    @TheBigWhiteGun 2 года назад +1

    Nice editing fam

  • @silverman1601
    @silverman1601 2 года назад +2

    oh boy i love this story

  • @GUNSFORTOES
    @GUNSFORTOES Год назад

    i've seen a meme version of the album cover but i didn't know it was an actual album lol

  • @pixie7639
    @pixie7639 2 года назад +7

    Do a Yves Tumor one pls

  • @soyboy9899
    @soyboy9899 2 года назад +7

    Good video but this doesn't even touch on the ARG

    • @Middle8
      @Middle8  2 года назад +4

      It ended up being cut from the script. Really cool what they did, but it just didn’t flow into the narrative

    • @soyboy9899
      @soyboy9899 2 года назад

      @@Middle8 I was thinking of that myself, I think it worked out for the sake of cohesion!

  • @liquidchato
    @liquidchato 2 года назад +1

    It goes it goes it goes

  • @DrJellyFanguzzz
    @DrJellyFanguzzz 2 года назад +2

    Why isn't flatlander included in death grips ☠️

  • @Illegiblescream
    @Illegiblescream Год назад +1

    To be fair, this is really the record labels fault for thinking that the people who would release Exmilitary could be reasoned with.
    Death Grips is some old forgotten angry deity from a time before language.

  • @benji_tunez
    @benji_tunez 10 месяцев назад

    If there’s people who can produce faster, Insanely high inputs than their Label requirements, I think there shouldn’t be a Limit, or you can have a Main Project + a smaller project that can still fit the whole label criteria, without taking all resources from the main project.
    Best of both worlds.
    Thats just me anyways

  • @julianoncrack
    @julianoncrack 7 месяцев назад +1

    wdym "pair"

  • @franta7294
    @franta7294 2 года назад +4

    why did you cut out andy throughout the whole video?

    • @Middle8
      @Middle8  2 года назад +1

      From what I was reading Andy wasn’t with them during their LA escapades. Maybe I’m wrong.

  • @ds101
    @ds101 2 года назад +2

    peak grips 🙏

  • @sierradeltaNL
    @sierradeltaNL 2 года назад +1

    sick!

  • @PhoctorDill
    @PhoctorDill 2 года назад

    Bro i been listening to death grips for a minute and i never knew half this shit😂 well done

  • @b1rdsong
    @b1rdsong 2 года назад +1

    what song in the intro and outro of video?? Please...

  • @whiskeywayne91
    @whiskeywayne91 2 года назад +1

    "the Sacto asshole!" I fucking love this line

  • @Zxlxya
    @Zxlxya 2 года назад

    Money Store and Powers That B are classics

  • @flabbyfella6397
    @flabbyfella6397 2 года назад +1

    What about Andy

  • @slunkzilla
    @slunkzilla 2 года назад +3

    How do you talk about the release of that album and not even mention ARG?????

  • @rosswalkman9652
    @rosswalkman9652 2 года назад +4

    I got the nasty in my taxi……

  • @sebastian_the_fool3726
    @sebastian_the_fool3726 2 года назад +1

    WOOOOOOO DEARH GRIPSSSS

  • @IlliterateBreadsTV
    @IlliterateBreadsTV 10 месяцев назад

    I’ve been saying this forever. NLDW is their best album bar none. It shows off most upfront what makes Death Grips Death Grips

    • @oofyboi5357
      @oofyboi5357 2 месяца назад

      It may not be the best album for me, but it‘s definitely second or third and better than the money store in my opinion

  • @kingking44gong4
    @kingking44gong4 2 года назад +2

    please do a breakdown of 4:44

  • @dunndorr5651
    @dunndorr5651 6 месяцев назад +2

    Bro why do you keep cutting out Andy ? He’s just as important as ride and hill

  • @TheGOAT-j9u
    @TheGOAT-j9u 2 года назад

    No love deep web is top 3 album from them so at least the work paid of

  • @huyivant5190
    @huyivant5190 2 года назад +2

    Pretty crazy.

  • @JonathanRodriguezz
    @JonathanRodriguezz 2 года назад +1

    Yessssss

  • @13polygons
    @13polygons 2 года назад +1

    Could you do a video on Royal Blood? Please

  • @joshlincoln3184
    @joshlincoln3184 2 года назад +2

    what song plays at the start?

    • @joywalk
      @joywalk 2 года назад

      just uploaded the mix to my channel

  • @HoussamNekkaa
    @HoussamNekkaa 2 года назад +1

    Rip Angelica Cob-Baehler

  • @andrewwilson4733
    @andrewwilson4733 2 года назад

    dont forget them putting them record lable boss home details on fbook so fans could send hate mail lol

  • @a.j.animations2235
    @a.j.animations2235 2 года назад +2

    6:28 i guess they're anti anti

  • @mercurialfunk
    @mercurialfunk 2 года назад +11

    Wait there's new Death Grips material?

    • @Middle8
      @Middle8  2 года назад +13

      They teased a little snippet on their instagram page back in May

  • @danielreyna7897
    @danielreyna7897 2 года назад +2

    Deat grips is online ptm te amo flatlander

  • @budgetlifter
    @budgetlifter 2 года назад +1

    Mc Ride 😍

  • @sebastian_the_fool3726
    @sebastian_the_fool3726 2 года назад +1

    DEATHHH GRIPSSSS

  • @bxezcr.m4a
    @bxezcr.m4a 2 года назад

    🐐

  • @microwavedonut6412
    @microwavedonut6412 2 года назад +4

    New album confirmed!!

  • @Jake-fk3se
    @Jake-fk3se 2 года назад

    No

  • @kaasisyi
    @kaasisyi 2 года назад +2

    when you want something, u do what u can or search everything to do it

  • @waldo719
    @waldo719 2 года назад

    i had no idea that was zach hill's

  • @epictom3423
    @epictom3423 2 года назад +1

    Epic

  • @joshuareyna5624
    @joshuareyna5624 Год назад

    Control decks FTW.

  • @cameronscottcairney8852
    @cameronscottcairney8852 2 года назад

    Why do you keep saying “pair” DG is 3 are they not?

  • @youtubepolice1463
    @youtubepolice1463 2 года назад +2

    Middle 8 can you make a twenty one pilots video pls?

  • @twoh.am_
    @twoh.am_ Месяц назад

    So freakin crazy

  • @BearJew840
    @BearJew840 2 года назад

    Whats the song at the start

    • @bersano5161
      @bersano5161 2 года назад +1

      Death Grips - No Love (Joywalk Remix)

  • @Red-Makes-Videos
    @Red-Makes-Videos 2 года назад

    you should do a video about "How to Save a Life" by Frayed it has a great story behind it