Collecting Addicts Episode 35: They're Back For More!
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- Edward, Manish, Neil, Chris & Chris are back and, after three weeks of rest Episode 35 is a big one!
90 minutes of pondering which is the best car of the past 30 years, the "reverse Tardis" of cars: big promises and falling short of delivering, ergonomic failures, Formula 1 becoming bigger and bigger, and of course: this week's two car garage for £40k!
Speaking of 2 Car Garage, YOU can now choose next week's two car garage! Put it in the comments below and the panel will select one as they're recording the next episode! Keep it short, sweet, but most importantly: interesting!
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(00:00) Intro
(01:10) Best car of the last 30 years
(14:00) Reverse Tardis - Big Promises - Not delivered
(37:38) Most annoying ergonomic feature
(58:45) Formula 1 & the Future
(01:13:58) 2 Car Garage
(01:28:55) Driving Tunes
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About Collecting Addicts Podcast:
Collecting Addicts is one of the leading automotive podcast hosted by Chris Harris along with fellow addicts Edward Lovett, Manish Pandey, Neil Clifford and Chris Cooper.
This eclectic bunch of car addicts gather online weekly to discuss all things automotive, from the minutiae of best gloveboxes to the latest happenings in top-tier motorsport.
They answer burning questions from listeners, debate the best and worst from the car world over the decades, and make time for regular features including ‘Two Car Garage’ and ‘Driving Tunes’.
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My dog died earlier this week and Chris’ line to Edd about so much money spent on the education yet so little return was the first time I’ve properly laughed in days. Thanks for cheering me up guys, welcome back
Keep well brother!
Don't change the format, it's perfect as it is. You could make each episode an hour longer than it is 😊
Saab key: It was a safety feature to save your knee from bashing into the (typically column located) key in case of a head-on collission.
Came here to say this.
Also doesn't it make sense ergonomically? You can go straight from start, engine on, first gear, hand brake off, done.
@@martinlaver4707 Well said sir,
In a head on collision a knee impacted by a key is the least of your worries!
@@jonathancarson1974anything that can easily be solved is dealt with, e.g Mercedes started pre-scoring their keys to snap off in a controlled manner starting with the W123, now everyone who uses a key does it.
I assume a cut in the wrong place near the knee can cause or contribute to bleeding out.
Mercedes even backed the pre scored wooden trim onto aluminium panels so it would be flexible but snap into squares when impacted 😂
I was having horrendous withdrawal symptoms! The format is perfect, best podcast hands down!!
Finally..
Anyone else having withdrawal symptoms 😂
Two Car Garage: You’ve been hired as the creative director for the new James Bond film. You have to chose 2 new cars for 007 from any brand of your choosing. One has to be a newer car to advertise a new product and the other is to be something vintage pre-80’s. You’ve been allocated a budget of 400k for both cars.
Great question, hope it wins👍
This is a very good question.
🕵very good
I really loved the Brosnan BMW era. I think peak was the Z8 for this, just created the mystique for it years later.
Very good question! Think Bond likes icons and could be seen in one. Think Roger in an Esprit Turbo and a 2CV within minutes!
and Bond-themed driving tunes! …or which artist would you most like to perform the next bond title song
Two car garage. Premium bonds winning middle aged butcher. 50k budget. One for ulez and one 80's classic. (Uno Turbo i.e. and an M3P 👍🏻)
Piss off Time Machine man
THE TWO CAR GARAGE: It's 2023, you're 27 again. Same budget you had when you were actually 27. Get set, go!
2 car garage entry for Episode 36.
(I am making small edits that I find fitting, the original will be commented below)
You are the chef extraordinaire of Porto Cervo. Having worked all your life for sparsely little, you have finally earned yourself a good living- owning 3 of the ritziest restaurants in the area.
You have 400.000 euros (300.000 more than you have in your bank account ) to buy two cars. The first, a 4 four door belter that goes completely under the radar of your wife- who you plan to leave for someone half her age.
The other is for you to enjoy on the weekends you aren’t in the kitchen. You don’t want something that is necessarily scary fast or brand new- but something that will keep you honest if you misbehave.
It would be nice if you could get out of them one day, without having lost money- but not at the cost of getting what you want.
The original 2 car garage entry for Episode 36.
You are the chef extraordinaire of Porto Cervo. Having worked all your life for sparsely little, you have finally earned yourself a good living-owning 3 of the ritziest restaurants in the area.
You have 400.000 euros to buy two cars. The first, a 4 four door belter that goes completely under the radar of your wife- who you plan to leave for someone half her age.
The other is for you to enjoy on the weekends you aren’t in the kitchen. You don’t want something that is necessarily scary fast or brand new- but something that will keep you honest if you misbehave.
Don't listen to the minges complaining about the music, I watch this exclusively for Pandey's beautiful selection of cinematic songs. Much love to Manish and the entire crew. All legends.
Glad to hear you’re back guys, hopefully rested and on good form
Fantastic, was beginning to believe that you were gone for good. TFI Friday (tomorrow) !
What a great podcast - it feels like hanging out with a group of old friends 👍
YES! Glad to have you back, thank you!
Glad your back
You’re…
@@WatchFascination…ditto..sigh.
Manish is correct! “Glitz is not gold” and I cringed when the debuted in Miami with the fake water and yachts. How will they tip that cheesiness 😂😂
Always listen to the podcast on a friday morning, working from home. It's a way to de-stress before the weekend truly arrives. Thanks chaps.
This is such a lovely gift from 5 talented, intelligent people to us. Take a break whenever you like chaps, you'll always have a hungry audience from us, I'd almost forgotten what it felt like to experience a new ep! Wonderful, cheers mateys.
That felt rather wholesome for YOutube so may I offset that by suggesting that you please, please do an 'after dark' episode where everyone's on the tipple and slagging off EVs and Chris Evans
So pleased that the famous 5 are back, seemingly fully energised and keen to entertain with well considered as well as off the cuff comment; don't change, it's a perfect format
Well already Chris Cooper has my vote, naming my two cars as their best in 30 years. ( The Golf mk 7 & MX5).
Welcome back boys and sorry I missed ( some of) you at the Combe recently.
PS I was checking all my devices , thinking I must have a bug when you all disappeared...
As someone currently listening to this on a road trip in a mk7 GTI, Cooper, you're the man.
loved the first segment on the best car of the last 30 years. I got the magazine in the mail fully expecting it to be a series 1 Elise or the 458. when I saw it was the i8 my jaw slammed on the floor like a cartoon. I couldn't believe it
it was avsolute rubbish yeah Mate if it was veryon it would have been fine
The fun thing about the jump the shark metaphor is that it is used to describe when something reaches its peak and fails. When Fonzie jumped the shark it was in season 5, they went on to make 6 more seasons, so it isn't a great metaphor for failure at all...
Two car garage: you’re a Hollywood film director in the late 2000s ready to take on the mantle of filming the greatest practical car chase in film history, attempting to top the likes of Bullitt, Ronin and The Spy Who Loved Me. You need to choose 2 understated yet powerful sports saloons that stylistically fit into the gritty vibe of a European action thriller film. The chase is set in a busy metropolis before finishing on the wide open-road, so something nimble for the city streets with a powerful V8, V10 or V12 is key. This being a Hollywood blockbuster, the studio has given you a generous budget of £250,000 to spend for both cars.
So happy the guys are back. My Friday mornings are complete again. I love to “favourite detail” things like dash, steering wheel, door handles, badge etc etc. get really geeky we love it.
Always a wonderful start to a Friday... Great to see you back, fellas!
I don't think you've done a bad episode yet... You all pull your weight and make an excellent contribution to the show. Definitely one of my favourites, and long may it continue!
I adore this. Its the one time a week I watch something just laughing.. smiling and forgetting the world outside! You brilliant chaps!!
Wife's away on holiday, i've had to make my own breakfast and it's pissing it down. Thanks for cheering me up lads. Top banter as ever. 👍
Neils statement on TopGear only talking about EVs etc is upsettingly accurate. I recently went on holiday, did the traditional stock up on car mags, sat down on my sun lounger, picked up TopGear mag, flicked through (as you do, back to front to assess the pics first), immediately put it down and picked up Evo. I won’t buy TopGear mag again, ever.
check out the new issue about being sustainable & green 😁😁😆😁😆
Two Car Garage Suggestion:
As a 45 year old, and newly devoiced, I find my self with considerable more time on my hands because I only have the kids ever-other week.
The devoice now being in the rearview mirror, a tidy sum of £50,000 is sitting in my skyrocket.
Car no. 1 - something ULEZ compliant is needed, that has space for the kids, and cater for the sun/winter trips to the French alps. Plus offer a bit of style/sex appeal for when I am back in the game…
Car no. 2 - now feels like the time to fulfil the dream of owning a car from the 80s that I never could afford when I was a teenager/early twenties. However, I would like a car that I could modify in my newly found free time, but still be able to drive to and from the odd track day throughout the year (importantly, not a car that will show up my lack of talent on a track).
Love the show - glad to have you back.
Two car garage -
1. You have £1k /month to lease a car through your vat registered business (bearing in mind co2 as you don't want an outrageous tax bill at the end of the year). It doesn't need to to be a family car but has to be able to get 2 youngish kids in it if you have to do a school run.
2. You have £50k to spend on a family car which will need fit in the 2 kids and a hungarian vizsla for dog walks in the country, and it will also occasionally need to take the family on 600 mile round trips for Cornwall holidays. It needs to be at least 18 months inside its manufacturers warranty.
You were truly missed. My Friday mornings felt very incomplete with all the wonderful chat. Thank you so very much for this much needed therapy each week.
BLOODY HELL I MISSED YOU LOT!! AWESOME TO HAVE YOU GUYS BACK!!
More than happy for every episode to be this long! Hope the gang enjoyed their well earned time off but it’s fkn great to have y’all back ✌️ don’t stop doing music at the end pls it’s one of my favourite segs, been following the Spotify playlist since day one it’s been a bloody brill journey.
Great to have you back, my wife and I met 4 of you at Bicester and she confirmed you are all 'top blokes' !!
I'm getting an mx5 nd after having owned a golf GTD. The mk7 golf is one hell of a car, peak golf imo👌
Welcome back. Could you all include what your first cars were in one of your episodes? I've seen all episodes and can't remember hearing what you all started in?
I enjoy the music bit at the end , I hope you keep it in !
I can’t believe when we are talking driving songs no one has picked a led zeppelin track , Trampled Under Foot that’s my favourite driving track .
Absolute tune !
On "spending $400m for the Vegas GP" thing, I have a different view: If FOM can pull off the Vegas race on $400m, it's very good value for money. It always cost that amount of money to build an F1 track. Shanghai's F1 track cost $350m to build. That was based on China's labor cost 20yrs ago. To do it in 2023, in US, in Vegas, for $400m, is kind of impressive.
This is an excellent point
So glad you guys are back, hope you all had a ripper break 👍
What a great episode! Always interesting, funny and quirky and a cherry on top for the Tame Impala tune reference at the end
Was beginning to have withdrawals … great to have you guys back…!!! 🎉
Great to have you back lads. The place wasn't the same without you.
Please don't change the format - I love the two car garage and driving tunes sections especially.
Thank god they’re back. My work from home Fridays were missing this crucial cog!
was worried this wouldn't come back, please don't stop, its superb
I’m so excited you’re back.😁
Hey Neil, that hat… pure class 😂
I just wanted to reach out to ask if I may have been one half of the Scottish couple that you met at Bicester? It was a real pleasure to meet you all (Manish, wish you were there mate) and I wanted to remind you of the hotel we were discussing (it was Fonab Castle outside Pitlochry) 😊
Loving your work gents ❤ hopefully catch you at another coffee run soon 👍
I have missed the banter and repartee! So much to catch up on…by the way, the rail for attaching scopes and other stuff on most firearms is called a Picatinny rail.
The Boys are back in town!!!!
I love your podcast lads, it's so similar to my friends and I talking about what we'd do in what situations with what budget. Keep it up!
I missed these terribly! Glad you’re all back!
I want to hear a two car garage with a kit car requirement! 😮
Awesome to see you guys are back. One thing I will say is how much you don't need to go into your main screen on a Tesla once you have put in your navigation address.
Dare I say it, it might be because I am in my 30's and stuff like that does not bother me too much....
so pleased this is back! Fridays just haven't been the same...
Love that you're back!!!
So happy that you are back 😊
I remember a brand new Gutmann turbo look 205 GTi in pearl white in the Peugeot College Green site .. Bristol .. now a collage .. ( Gutmann uk was colin mitchell )
Glad you are back boys. Entertaining as always 👍👌
So happy to see the next episode drop. Missed the best podcast going around!
TCG - you’re an Englishman that lives in New York. You have $75k to buy a family motor that can handle the battle scarred roads and that won’t depreciate to heavily, AND a hot hatch from your youth (you’re bald, handsome and 44) but that must be over 25 years old, because that makes importing easier.
You little effin dancer, glad to see you back lads 👏💚
Chris Harris has a clutch pedal under his computer desk that he steps on just to feel comfortable. And I bet the click button on his mouse is a paddle shifter.
2 car garage: you're a newly graduated engineer at an F1 team. You're getting paid well but working consistent 45 or 50 hour weeks.
You want to do your commute in a car that will always work in the winter and be fun to drive at the end of an arduous day at work. You also want a fun car for roadtrips to Scotland and Wales with your best mate. You have £15k to spend.
Brilliant, glad your back
Fantastic! Love from Shanghai.
One of the best episodes yet!
Friday evening's restored. It's great to have you back. I knew the automotive podcast world was fully back on its axis when Neil casually mentioned he had bought an Alpina. Please be a Daytona Violet B5 GT wagon with the special cloth interior!
🙌🏽 Yes 🙌🏽 great to see these legends back!
Fridays are complete again! Great comeback episode 👍🏻
Brilliant episode, great to have you back! Liked the discussion on F1… it’s a business looking for somewhere to go but not sure about USA, even with celebrities attending
I suggest a slot on: best sounding road car(s). The noise is for many a fundamental part of the enjoyment of a car but I don't recall you covering this topic.
Bloody hell, I think I like Barry Manilow.... What a welcome return to form lads. Great to meet some of you at Bicester too. Looking forward to the next coffee run
Great to have you back guys...next time give us addicts a bit of notice before you disappear so that we can arrange Friday therapy sessions 🤣
BMW i8 ....are you serious TG?
Reverse Tardis can be a good thing in certain (nonautomotive) areas of life?!
Most annoying ergonomic failure - any car with the bonnet release on the passengers side!
F1 for me is now reduced to watching a YT 4 minute highlights....I just cant waste any more time on it.
Two car garage - main car R129 or R230 SL500, great , beautifully engineered practical mile munchers. Classic cabriolet Triumph Stag, (best restored car you can find). Both have really good Hardtops for the midge season. Manish's 300 ME is a good call, but NOT a cabriolet which the brief stated, BTW the original Peter Bohanna vehicle displayed at the Racing Car Show (I was there in 72) had a Maxi engine and gearbox, before AC took the project over.
2 car garage.
South of Ireland roads, so quite bumpy - nothing to stiff or it will feel very crashy. You love a hot hatch but would like to stand out at a car meet so nothing too generic.
You commute to the capital once a week so a motorway cruiser is essential but something interesting enough to keep you awake and possibly tempt you to take the backroads home every once in a while.
Budget is a FIRM (you hear that cooper!) 20k euros.
My Fridays are finally back to normal.. top content, I've missed it
Here we go. Been waiting for this. Hope you all had a great break but time to crack on now 😂😂😂😂😂
damn i wasn’t prepared for how much id miss this 😂
Chris Cooper - the typically attachment system for firearms is Picatinny Rail but other rail systems are available!
Interesting fact. My old boss invented one of the systems rail systems and is also connected with the automotive industry.... probably can't elaborate further on that one.
The handguard surrounding the barrel of an AR-15 that appears to be ventilation is another system. The most popular of which is M-Lok.
Gun nerdery aside, great to have you all back!
I can't wait for Chris's book!
Going to bore you with a fact about the SAAB key... In the 70s/80s SAAB did research into crashes and realised that people were smashing their kneecaps in the key causing the kneecap to shatter. They therefore decided to move it into the centra console where as you all pointed out it need to be in reverse to release, this made it incredibly difficult to access and damage the ignition barrel to steal the car.
I always thought it was quite nice ergonomically especially if you have a lot of keys on your keyring :)
My submission for Two Car Garage: He’s 35, married with a 2 year old daughter, his father raced a Sprite in the 70’s and our man grew up watching the hey day of Formula Ford. He’s finally able to start racing and has bought a lovely Reynard 84F with plans to run the Champion of Brands in ‘24. After purchasing the race car and trailer our man has 25,000 to spend on a vehicle that can tow the race car, haul the young family to town and the seaside and pass for acceptable in the company parking lot. GO!
Glad you’re back! Oh how we’ve missed you.
Anyway here’s a 2 car garage that should make you think outside the box.
You’ve favourite period in time is the mid 80’s to the mid 90’s and you have a penchant for the quirky. You have a limited budget of £30,000 to buy 2 vehicles, a daily driver that has to be a family car. The other can be anything rare (possibly imported) and something to take to coffee run.
Both vehicles must be from 1985-1995 and be quirky and give you a buzz when driving, but also get nods of appreciation from fellow petrolheads.
So, so, so good. Hurrah you’re back 🎉
Every single one of Cooper’s cars of the thirty years are bang on.
If you were going to choose a hybrid it’d have to be a Prius.
Two car garage idea based off a recent experience. You have a budget of £100,000 to buy two cars for two separate trips with you and your partner. The first trip is a drive from the south west of England to Marseille to watch the rugby and the second trip is from the same start point to Lille remembering that the cars have to fit your luggage for the trips and two comfortably. This was a recent trip by my parents and the cars they took where A Porsche 997 Turbo Sport Chrono manual for the first one and a Mercedes R129 Sl 320 Auto on the second. No restrictions on country of origin just the budget.
PLEASE do not do away with the music section. I have learned so much from Manish, and experienced such emotions...everyone else's suggestions are great too, I've been getting into ZZ Top, and love all the quirky 80s pop songs from the others.
Also may I request an 'after dark' episode where everyone's on the booze and slagging off EVs?
The Saab ignition down by the gears/hand break was there to stop keys ending up in your knees in head on collision, so DL your point about why not having the key next to the steering wheel is explained by Saab design.
56:16 The Saab key placement was initially (70s, I think) to prevent your knee from getting stabbed by it in the case of an accident, something they just kept for the sake of being different!
Just superb Gents 🎉
I’ve had three 320d’s and now have a FWD 118d which I really like. Plus it has the right combination of touchscreen and buttons. It all just works
Two car garage: collecting cars has introduced the 5 year 50k mile bumper to bumper warranty which can be applied to any car purchased on the site for $6k.
You are a man in your mid 20’s who works from home and volunteers with a Greyhound rehoming non-profit in the evenings requiring you to drive dogs around the country semi frequently. On the weekends you race in the hot hatch championship in your Honda civic race car which requires you to tow your car to tracks around the UK.
You have 25k to spend on two cars, one of which needs to be your new daily driver. The cost of the warranty must be factored into your budget, IF you decide to purchase it for one (or more) of your vehicles.
I understand Ed's pet peeve with the FWD BMWs but I have to say the 128ti is brilliant. However, the original 1-series has more "driving pleasure" cooked into it for sure. Due in large part of course to the RWD.
Great to have yous back Fort William manish loved the accent 😂 my hometown great playground for 🏃♂️ 🚴♂️ and 🏎️ 😜
2 Car Garage. A nice English lady marries an American. They are deeply in love and both of them decide they want to buy the other a car. She wants to buy him what the English think is the perfect American car and separately, he wants to buy her what an American thinks is the perfect English car. They has $25,000.00 each and neither knows the other is car shopping. Thanks for a great show. Pat. New Hampshire USA
Here you go lads, 2 car garage.
Chris Cooper can come up with the narrative of who might be in the need for these 2 cars.
1) A petrol SUV that ticks as many boxes as possible (interested to see what Chris Harris picks 😂). For under 55k.
2) An early 2000's hot hatch for under 10k.
it been long, glad your back
Two car garage with also an idea to chat about past F1 drivers alongside the currently format. You and your wife and dog are planning a trip from the South, through Mid Wales to North Wales for a 4 day break in two cars including a track day for one car on Anglesey (as you are meeting the team there). On the way you want to visit Tom Pryce’s home and small memorial (F1 link). You want it to be make you feel special car to you, good on road and track but nothing two expensive (I did it my old gen 1 Evora). Your wife goes onto the cottage you have booked just outside Abersoch where you join her later but she won’t drive around the narrow lanes so you’ll be doing the driving around the area with her and the dog. Vehicle has to be able to navigate the lanes and also fit in with the visiting wealthy set (by being cool) that have holiday homes there. Budget say £70k
Saab's key placement was a safety feature. In a crash the key can jam into your knee when placed behind the steering wheel.
Two car garage - carrying on from Aberdeen mentioned on this episode. Husband and wife, £30k budget, one car for commuting Banchory to Aberdeen preferably SUV (bigger the better) with minimal servicing/run costs for 2/3 years for wife and one classic car for classic car enthusiast husband. Classic car must be suitable for taking daughter, Penelope, to nursery and Sunday drives around Royal Deeside with the family and dog. Classic car can have some tinkering required to satisfy the inner mechanic
I agree with most of the things you say and you are now my most favourite weekly, holidays permitting☺️
Ahhhhh Zen is Restored. Welcome back gentlemen.