I'd love to see your take on an Ultimate Innkeeper. A character that can use Demiplane, and long term beneficial spells, such as Hallow, glyphs of warding, etc.
Well now i have one of two uses for this amazing build. Either use it in an upcoming out of the abyss campaign my friend is setting up, or alter it for a gestalts rule one-shot based around Keys from the Golden Vault. Either way my DM is going to hate me as i will forever be in the walls when the time comes.
Hm. "Infiltration" I associate more with being in disguise, a double agent, impersonation and the like. In which case I would focus on Deception rather than Stealth.
Using the "Smurgteblim" you can easily out-rogue the rogue. Your standard rogue expertise max roll combo will likely be around a 30ish on average at mid to late game. Our build can almost double the total of these rolls. AND we get lots of other options for helping our party stealth too
Hm. It's got some really poor combat ability and terrible defenses until 7th level. So, be sure you know how your DM runs Stealth, Hiding, and Surprised. Also talk with your table about letting you get enemies with Surprised to buy them turns and keep you relevant. Do note that campaign-specific backgrounds are not usually expected to be allowed outside of those campaigns, so ask your DM if it's okay first. This would really only work well in a low-combat campaign that's all about sneaking and heists, kinda like Keys from the Golden Vault (which I'm playing in currently!) I would generally expect a well-built Druid to out-perform this for Stealth opportunities, and a Hexblade+Gloomstalker will probably deal five times as much damage while achieving most of the same Stealth abilities. There's also lots of room to optimize the build even as it is. But, it's a fun idea! Thanks for the video!
yeah, adding Hexblade and gloomstalker would definitely outperform this in quite a few areas. in the pursuit of a high meme stealth roll, we do lose out on some key features that could help us in other areas. but there are the features that this build does exceptionally well too
I'd love to see your take on an Ultimate Innkeeper. A character that can use Demiplane, and long term beneficial spells, such as Hallow, glyphs of warding, etc.
Thank you Gary, for you have blessed this channel with a build video I really want to make. More on this soon…
Well now i have one of two uses for this amazing build. Either use it in an upcoming out of the abyss campaign my friend is setting up, or alter it for a gestalts rule one-shot based around Keys from the Golden Vault. Either way my DM is going to hate me as i will forever be in the walls when the time comes.
LIVE IN THEIR WALLS. Embrace the sheet rock life
Hm. "Infiltration" I associate more with being in disguise, a double agent, impersonation and the like. In which case I would focus on Deception rather than Stealth.
We do have a build that does a lot more with that, but it involves more RP than stealth. I do get what you mean tho
I will start using "Smurfneblin" now. Does this build out-rogue the rogue?
Using the "Smurgteblim" you can easily out-rogue the rogue. Your standard rogue expertise max roll combo will likely be around a 30ish on average at mid to late game. Our build can almost double the total of these rolls. AND we get lots of other options for helping our party stealth too
Hm. It's got some really poor combat ability and terrible defenses until 7th level. So, be sure you know how your DM runs Stealth, Hiding, and Surprised. Also talk with your table about letting you get enemies with Surprised to buy them turns and keep you relevant. Do note that campaign-specific backgrounds are not usually expected to be allowed outside of those campaigns, so ask your DM if it's okay first. This would really only work well in a low-combat campaign that's all about sneaking and heists, kinda like Keys from the Golden Vault (which I'm playing in currently!)
I would generally expect a well-built Druid to out-perform this for Stealth opportunities, and a Hexblade+Gloomstalker will probably deal five times as much damage while achieving most of the same Stealth abilities. There's also lots of room to optimize the build even as it is. But, it's a fun idea!
Thanks for the video!
yeah, adding Hexblade and gloomstalker would definitely outperform this in quite a few areas. in the pursuit of a high meme stealth roll, we do lose out on some key features that could help us in other areas. but there are the features that this build does exceptionally well too