I always like Livewire. She’s such a different type of villain compared to other Superman rogues. She’s the type of villain you can tell is always having fun doing what she does
Not unlike Harley in BTAS, who genuinely seems to revel in the chaos and destruction she helps the Joker cause. Honestly, Livewire kinda reminds me of a mix between BTAS Harley and the Danny Phantom villain Ember. She wants people to know and remember who she is while also reveling in causing havoc. Seems like the writers probably had a blast working on Livewire's character.
@@comettamerNot really. With Ember perhaps but not Harley. Harley Quinn was a psychologist who tried to treat the joker but was manipulated by him and to become his sidekick/pawn. Livewire was a shock jock who let herself be electrocuted after Superman tried to save her... It wasn't for the fact that she was a meta human she would have died.
I think it's kind of ironic, that she's a bit of a control freak, and wants to be the ringleader of her own life.... Yet she has barely any control over herself. if Toyman represents Superman's childlike innocence, and Metallo represents his heart and humanity, then I think Livewire representatives his self control.
I agree with this. Didn't take Livewire long to go a bit mad with power, to the point that despite having Superman in her grasp, her lack of self-control saw her easily goaded into foiling herself.
Lesley Willis seems to serve two thematic roles, as Casually Comics points out: 1. She serves as an avatar for the comic book reader audience that derides the idea of Superman as being lame and goody two shoes. It's important to note that even in real life, people doing good get unwarranted hate thrown at them 2. She's a semi feminist commentary on the male dominated shock jock industry, dominated usually by males. Her rhetoric makes her "one of the guys" in a way, which makes her such a popular voice in Metropolis,i think
1 - Brings into mind how the events of J.R.R. Tolkien's cut Lord of the Rings sequel "The New Shadow" came to be: good and peace can and will becomes inevitably boring and dull. 2 - A pity her becoming a villainess meant a lot of disillusionment from her fans. However, there's a chance she may still have admirers, not unlike some serial killers then and now.
One thing I like is, similar to how a lot of Harleys personality was inspired from her voice actress, Arleen Sorkin. A similar thing seems to have happened when developing Livewire with Lori Petty
3:35 She's a professional Bullshitter. It doesn't matter if she's right or wrong; she'll say whatever it takes to make you beleive in her. Real life politicians and business leaders thrive on this skill.
In other words, a grifter. It's questionable whether she even believed anything she said; she just knew that it got her ratings and a paycheck so she ran with it. She was just as immersed in the rat race as those against whom she appeared to rebel.
Also doesn't help she's in the kind of job that rewards that kind of behavior, except with other folks it's enough of a "bit" they usually don't become genuinely bigger assholes.
@@Chadius I mean I get that the writers wanted to let us know that she’s just a girl with a big mallet with no real superpowers while Poison Ivy is literally mother nature but c‘mon stop embarrassing her like that😭 I feel like they had no idea what to do with her character after season 3, they gave her all that character development for nothing That’s why her character and abilities are so inconsistent
I like Livewire as a character. She is literally the very power that runs society, personified. She doesn't just abuse power, she IS power. She's one of those great highlights on what makes Superman better than his enemies - they are among the most powerful people on Earth, as he is, but Supes remains uncorrupted by his power. Then teaming her up with Parasite? Backing her with Luthor? They're all great ideas. Superman was born of the idea that somebody needs to use their power for the common good, and I think STAS really nailed that aspect of the franchise. It's not as complex as the meaning behind most Batman stories, but just as important. And I think STAS did a fantastic job adding depth in unexpected places, and rather tastefully even in its innuendos.
Ive always thought Livewire was one of the most underrated Superman villains with a lot of potential, and Ive always liked her, and Lori Petty does a great job voicing the character. She's such a chaotic, fun, yet sassy villain that can hurt Superman, not just with her electricity powers but with her words. I've always loved the idea of her being a shock jock reporter/podcaster who has an irrational, cynical distaste for Superman as a so-called "boy scout" whose empathy and altruism is seen as boring and corny in today's 21st-century society. Livewire represents how the younger generation today considers the actions of good people. You could really play into her being an online presence before being a villain as a commentary of specific online influencers spreading false information, hateful propaganda, and unreliable fearmongering, all to get attention, manipulate the masses and profit off of them for their own gain. Livewire could be a personification of how the media has affected the world today juxtaposed by actual good media that seeks the truth and shares it with the world with the need of manipulating the masses, as represented by good reporters like Lois, Clark and Jimmy as well as the Daily Planet. Superman can act as a pillar of trustful, reliable and genuine news, with altruistic values that people should listen to, thus that could cause Leslie WIllis to create her own hubris by becoming Livewire through some specific set of events that leads to her manipulating electricity, similar to how she did to manipulate the public, and being a real symbolic threat to Superman as his first villain, all the while Superman would have to grapple if Leslie is right and whether his values and identity do have a place in this world today and whether being Superman is worth all the hate and xenophobia that is yet to come as if the idea of becoming Superman is just a naive fantasy from an equally naive farm boy from Kansas. I think that would be interesting to explore, taking elements from Whatever Happened To Truth, Justice, And The American Way comic storyline.
I had an idea for a film with her and Lex Luthor being the main villains, trying to keep the 90s Blade Runner type Metropolis a hellhole where the only source of joy is the fleeting feeling of pleasure. With Lex pretending to be an ally, trying to get Superman to sell out to him and livewire rallying public opinion against him. He even goes to Gotham and it looks like paradise in contrast despite being the posterboy for 1930s type major city. In the end, Metropolis made more of the likeness of Back to the Future part 2, making it clear that Superman intends to help turn Metropolis into the peak of atomic age optimism.
Livewire's character in the 90s show could work nowadays being skeptical of Supes and diving into conspiracy theorists nowadays. Reaching that spectrum but also Livewire showing she loves having power and doesn't want to change.
Both LiveWire and Volcana, in my opinion were like the Poison ivy and Harley Quinn to Superman. And I always had this theory about LiveWire on how she seems to be almost like borderline obsessive with Superman at times to where like it felt she was in love with the man of steel, I mean technically she gave him a “shock to the heart.”
yeah I also kinda wished they explored that, heck to me it would be even more interesting if she actually does hate superman but genuinely likes/was attracted to clark for all the same reason she finds superman fake. (would be a neat little twist on how lois is often presented as more romantic with superman vs clark)
@@TheChildofAuraReborn Both Livewire and Volcana were criminally underused on STAS, Volcana herself appearing in only 2 eps max. I think with BTAS, it was the perfect storm of factors: Harley Quinn was such an inspired character, who had an inspired look and a great VA to boot. She pairs extremely well with others in different situations, be it Ivy, Batman and especially Joker. I don't think Livewire or Volcana had that opportunity to pair like Harley did
I like the little detail that shows she stepped on a cable as she gets struck by the lightning and you can see the bolt going from her through the cable
"Villains use their bad day as an excuse to break the world, but heroes use their bad day as an excuse to fix the world." I think there's something interesting about how villains often feel they are owed something from the world whilst heroes feel that they owe the world something. The duality of selfishness and selflessness often being paired with obligations and debt. Just look at Titan from Megamind: A cautionary tale about the dangers of believing that the real world works the same way it does in comic books and fiction. But then you also have the Parallax arc: An example of what happens when heroes keep giving and giving only to suffer tragedy after tragedy. I suppose there is some merit to this quote then... "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain."
I really like Livewire and honestly wish they stayed the idea of her redemption...but I am a sucker for those. It's a shame comic stuff rarely lets those stick
Lesly is the type of person to complain that life aint fair when thing dont go her way yet never realizes half the times its just a coincidence and the other half is her own dang ego fault
I remember being unreasonably jazzed when I realized she was both playable and voiced in Lego DC Supervillains. Nice to see the character do stuff again, even if she's probably never going to be as enormous as Harley.
I think she's the sort of villain that benefits from a redemption arc. Great design and powers, and she could be a good person and hero if she worked on her horrific ego and thought about helping others
One time in the comics she actually became a hero and became a part of a superhero team created by Superman. Her powers were overloading and Superman gave her his suit from when he had those eletric powers
Oh my stars and garters you're finally doing her I can't wait she's hella underrated and one of my favorite Superman villains. Definitely in my top 10.
I don't know much about Livewire, but I find her interesting. I think the most interesting thing about her is that she seems to have the wits, guts, and smarts to get whatever she sets her mind to. The only thing that's stopping her is that she tries to take shortcuts and disregards things keeping her safe, which always end up sabotaging her. Her worst enemy is herself, and it's probably the only thing holding her back. It is a shame that the show squanders Livewire's redemption arc, but I don't think it's entirely out of character. Also, I just have to say that I love 2:52 where the lightning and the words "News Flash!" happened together. That's got to have been intentional.
S: TAS didn't squander it, it's the fault of sequel series Justice League+Unlimited, in what may be a need to stay away from the otherwise great comics so to avoid "Continuity Lockout". Didn't stop them from featuring Deadman and Mister Miracle without a proper first introduction though.
One thing that's interesting about Parasite in the DCAU is that his face bears the resemblance of the Raymond Jensen incarnation, while the rest of his body is more like the Rudy Jones version of the character from the comics. While he doesn't appear to have any leech teeth like his comic counterpart, there is a slight reference to that aspect during Rudy's gruesome transformation in "Feeding Time". "Two's a Crowd" also references a similar incident that happened to Parasite in the comics. Also, similar to btas, stas shows how despite his monstrous form, Parasite is given some humility by having characters (including Superman) refer to him as "Rudy" in most of his appearances.
With how social media is huge thing , as well all the grifters using it to lash out on others, Livewire is one those villains that I'm surprise DC didn't use it in their films yet. I really hope she appears in the DCU Superman movies. Not only she would be the first female main villain in a Superman film but also could easly work as foe for both Superman as well Clark and Lois, since they are reporters trying to expose the truth while Livewire uses her influence in media to twist the truth for her own selfish goals.
thank you so much for doing a vid on her! she’s my all time favorite superman villain! wish volcana could have reached the same popularity. love lori petty as her voice! i can’t imagine anyone else voicing her now!
Honestly, the creators had some sort of idea in their minds of Livewire being some kind of Harley Quinn type character... Except for the fact that Harley Quinn was a figure created by tragedy. Leslie however, brought all this on her own head. But, she is rather interesting. However, I just wish that the writers would know what to do with her more often.
@@seeleunit2000 it may have to do with the gothic nature of Batman and Harley's design that makes her more long lasting in appeal. Livewire is a character study in man's relationship to power and what to do with it, which can be said for so many Superman rogues. I think Superman's rogues are great, but mainstream i think is attracted more to the macabre and tragicomic of the Batman villains
Livewire is honestly one of the most interesting characters. She proved to be a great elemental threat to Superman and her personality was quite..LIVELY😄. Although she doesn’t really understand that even men especially Superman have hard if not harder struggles. She’s basically addicted to attention and feeling more validated than others. Kinda wish she had more appearances because of well written she was. So much more potential for this villain.
Well, I think her hatred of Superman is a commentary on surface level feminism. She places all the blame for her troubles on “men in general”, but never targets the specific men in power. She works for Lex Luther, the man who pays most of the men she sees as getting a free pass. Does she try to go independent and offer some criticism of this? Network with other acclaimed women in news, like Lois Lane, to bring attention to the subject? Offer any support to other women facing these struggles? No. She doesn’t want a better lot in life for all women; she wants one of the lots the patriarchs already have. She doesn’t want equality for all, she wants to be equal to those in power
I like that My Adventures with Superman decided to put Livewire in the spotlight by having her be one of the main villains for most of the first season.
I have mixed feelings about MAWS's Livewire. Sure they gave her electricity powers and more, but they really Nerf down her personality. The original was a shockjocker turn anarchist, the new one is just a thief. I guess they had to abandon the whole "shock jock" thing since the government put leash laws on them IRL. But I do like the relationship she has with Heatwave. They gave her a sort of this hopeless romantic side of her that I can respect. "Love is NOT for Coward."
Seeing Livewire team up with Harley and Ivy reminded me of Darkwing Duck's adversaries The Fearsome Five, but only 3/5th's of the way, as they were lacking expies of NegaDuck and Liquidator at the time.
With the way her character was going in the comics, if the New 52 didn't happen, I could imagine the Young All-Stars being brought back with Livewire as one of its members.
@chickadeestevenson5440 She's kind of a waste in MAWS. She's visually boring even after she gets powers, and has almost no character, which is a shame because she's one of my favorite characters in the og show.
In the DC Super Hero Girls (2019) iteration, she's an internet troll/bully and it really feels like a natural evolution of her previous STAS lore and character, modernizing her.
Honestly I kinda think the reason why Livewire’s powers hurt Superman is because she’s created from the same “energy wavelength” that’s coming off of Clark due to the yellow sun. It’s basically being hit with his own bio-electricity essentially
@@jeggsonvohees2201Superman's a Kryptonian but he still has a nervous and muscular system Edison demonstrated the danger of Telsa superior AC electricty by using to kill an elephant.
Livewire was such a fun Superman TAS villainess (alongside Volcana, but my simping over her will have to be for another time, lol). Despite being an absolutely awful person, she was loud, flashy, confident, and had so much charm as a character; she was a train crash that you couldn't look away from. I think the biggest missed opportunity was not having her team up with Lobo; the Parasite team up was a good episode in showing how teaming up with someone who has just as much ill intent as you do makes for an unreliable alliance, but the dynamic between her and Lobo would have been legendary. And I don't care if people make fun of Bruce Timm's design process for female characters (even though it's A) very efficient for animation and B) Great and easy at visually implying what kind of power or theme the villain has), the blue color palette and lightning dip is iconic, especially since the lore is that she chose it for herself. She may hate unwanted attention but she likes to be sexy and flaunt herself. And I'm sure I'll catch flak for it but I'll say it: the MAWS version of Livewire has to be the most boring cartoon incarnation of her to ever exist. The ugly-ass haircut, the lack of lightning motif in her design, the horrible character origin switch from a loudmouth radio personality to a boring merc-type weapons dealer in a show where apparently EVERYONE is a merc-type character. Also not to mention the absolute lack of sexiness. They did her so dirty.
I would like to point out that at the moment She was struck by the lightning, it first passed through Superman, and then to her. My theory is that when it struck Superman, it gain his alien/sun-powered energy, which then was infused into Livewire when the lightning jumped to her.
I love the detail from the TAS comic that Livewire is one of the rare metahumans whose powers have no limits. She can absorb and channel infinite amounts of energy. I like that she has so much power but is so petty.
She also had a little brother in the comics who went full-on yandere for Lois, and the B-plot of her debut involved him teaming up with a newly freed-from-the-US-Tax-Code (it makes sense if you have the context, I swear to God it does) Queen of Fables to try and win Lois' heart.
@mitchfletcher2386 can't remember how she got stuck in the show, but in _Midsummer's Nightmare_ the JL trapped her within the Tax Code because her magic is powered by fiction and it was assumed that sealing her in a book of law would render her powerless. Turns out that rich people will make up as much nonsense as they can to keep their money, so she was able to quite literally exploit loopholes to get free.
I like that Leslie and Lois are given a prominent scene to interact with each other precisely to contrast their respective cynical attitudes. They're both reporters of a fashion, both women with the cool, sarcastic exterior of a hard-bitten urbanite, both highly critical of Metropolis' state of affairs. But where Lois' cynicism is a mask of safety, the armor of a jaded idealist who felt as though she had to "toughen up" to continue making a positive difference in the way she ultimately desires, Leslie's mask cynicism is inverted: a mask of Lois' mask. Lex Luthor's controlled opposition, co-opting the archetype of girlboss feminist speaking truth to power to spread antisocial propaganda. And much like that second type of cynic, all of this is ultimately just a facade to mask a desire for attention and control, a cynicism born out of dissatisfaction purely with one's own alienation in society, and not the broader injustices affecting everyone. Hence, why her "shock jock" gimmick doesn't stick around after she becomes Live Wire. If Lois got superpowers, would she quit journalism? You already know the answer. Superman didn't even do that, and he isn't even really as passionate about journalism as a profession. It's a quiet job that gives Clark Kent a roof over his head and a place to be for the day, while Superman gets to hear about trouble at the source and do *his* job easier. Clark Kent writes good articles, sure, but Lois Lane wins Pulitzers. Leslie, though? She puts herself on billboards, on TV, she robs banks, she has girl's nights, she certainly isn't clocking in at the station now that she's a metahuman. Radio was simply her greatest expression of power, to be replaced when it was surpassed.
I found Livewire very similar to Roxy Rocket from the New Adventures, but she was just cooler. Kinda liked the idea of Metropolis finally getting their own version of J.Jonah Jameson. She was one of my favorite things about STAS, but Lori Petty, Tank Girl her self, being cast was the chef's kiss that made her perfect
I really, really wish they would put her against Punchline, as Punchline feels like the 202X version of a woman Shock Jock in a lot of ways. Going with how Livewire has accumulated at least some interesting ideas over time, it would be interesting to pit this character who came from the same period as Harley against her, but without just using Harley, as a twist to how people see Punchline as a new HQ in the first place.
The interesting mirror livewire shows to the struggle women suffer from, is that among the valid movement, there hide selfish people. But at the same time, only cause they are selfish, doesnt mean the problems arent real. Live wire doesnt care about women, only herself. But despite her selfishness, she still faces the same problems as other women. But through her actions and behavior, she doesnt get the sympathy or moral highground that most women "punching up" get. In short, every group has their bad eggs. Livewire is one of those.
I've been stuck watching your content, it's soo good and wonderfully made!! Have you ever thought, or have already done, some coverage on the Batman audio adventures?
I always find Livewire is done dirty in comic adaptations. In TAS we see she is incredibly powerful, able to travel through power cables within Metropolis, putting herself on every screen and later absorb more electricity in order to gain greater power and strength as seen when she picks up and throws a turbine for the hydo-dam. The tie-in comics for Superman TAS continued to show us this level of power, even having Livewire be a key character in the final two issues where she is to be a battery for Darkseid's new doomsday weapon. But in the comics she is just a low level female Electro. Often only able to blast people with lightning and having no higher level of strength/durability, people like Batgirl are able to beat her with relative ease, providing their costume is insulated. She goes from being a tricky threat to handle/contain to a jobber who has only one trick.
Ive had this vision of Livewire of making her a bigger deal, I see this potential where what if she was like Superman's equivalent of J Jonah Janerson but actualy becoming a villian, besides her actual powers she could use her voice a radio jockey to cause doubt & anger towards Superman, Livewire could be a bigger & very interesting theart.
You know what’s funny? Modern incarnations of Harley Quinn basically have Livewire’s rude, crass, violent, sexual “Tank Girl” personality. Thus it’s funny how Livewire isn’t as popular as Harley since they had to basically make Harley into Livewire personality wise.
Livewire was a great villain for Superman. It is a shame she did not get a major role in JLU, but with so many characters, I guess the creative team did not have enough time to feature her. I am almost glad she is not as popular as Quinn because if she was, DC and warner brothers would overexpose her (of course when you consider her personality, I doubt she would have a problem with that).
Livewire had such a unique voice, a shame they never got the actress back after Justice League. Modernizing her would be pretty easy thanks to plenty of jerks and conspiracy nuts on Social Media.
Yeah, Livewire being voiced by Hawkgirl of all folks just didn't seem right. Then again, in the same ep, Metallo wasn't voiced by Malcom McDowell either, though he did return in JLU's "Chaos at the Earth's Core".
The original Livewire is my absolute favorite version of Livewire, mostly because, no matter what she’s doing you can tell she’s having fun while doing it.
I'd be interesting to see her referenced in the new Superman film, even if just as a voice. Maybe they could adapt her as a podcast host/TikToker that her entire content is her trashing not only Supes but all heroes altogether, considering how hate culture is stronger than ever
So I just had a realization: Livewire's weakness is water since it causes her electricity to get conducted back onto her. So does that means she can't drink? I mean I'd assume being a living electricity conduit makes her able to survive purely off electricity, but with some superheroes and villains who otherwise can't do things like eat or sleep or need or perform normal human functions... Sounds horrifying.
StAS Livewire always struck me as an example of a person who feigns victim hood for clout, and to stroke their ego. I feel like a good redemption ark for her would have involved her getting humbled by people who really had gone through what she claimed she had, and/or people who she couldn’t claim being victimized by. She would have made for some really great Wonder Woman focused Justice League episodes.
You know Superman really doesn’t have enough villains that can hurt him physically or even have a J.Jonah Jameson type character who doesn’t like the hero and I always get confused with her and Killer Frost as they have the same colour scheme and a sadistic personality as she is just a female Electro.
One of the plot threads cut by the Flashpoint/New-52 was Livewire eventual redemption arc. In one of the last issue of the New Earth Superman she received the old contaiment suit from the "energy Superman" era, since she was at risk of turning into pure energy. Apparently, this gave her both more control over her powers and a way to "think more clearly", implying that channeling all that electricity was scrambling her mind.
Livewire has such a great design and the kind of extreme personality that stands out. Plus I do appreciate that she is truly her worst enemy. And her problem with Superman being so misplaced just works. Just a really selfish person that twists anything into both being not her fault and being an excuse for her to lash out.
Just love Lori Petty!❤️ Our sexy Badass Tank Girl was perfect to play a gal who gives no bucks about our favorite boy scout! Though brash and obnoxious, she's definitely one of the few memorable villians welomed in TAS!❤️ I personally love Girls Night Out as it has all my fave gals in one episode! Sad she got relegated to a few cameos and some redemption comics. Still, love her as another villian in the DC rogues...and is funny with Heateave in My Adventures with Superman!
Honestly, I find that the message of LiveWire is not how women are treated worse, but how this disposition can be radicalized and exploited as well. It basically shows toxic feminism/victimhood: a sound base, but completely selfish and wrong.
Im not sure why but Livewire always reminded of Electro from The Spectacular Spiderman but also opposites on how they treat their Elec. powers. Max hated his power and wanted to find a cure to turn himself back to normel, meanwhile Leslie loved getting her powers and used it for herself. I wonder if Electro was the thing they got some of the ideas for Livewire.
@@michaelnally2841 yeah i really dont know much of the other Electros. The only ones i know are from Spectacular Spiderman, Amazing Spiderman 2, and the PS4 Spider Man game.
Her last appearance in the DCAU is just her key art from the STAS days seemingly pasted in next to a number of Secret Society members. It's like they couldn't actually get her to join and they instead made a cardboard cutout.
Livewire is honestly quite a decent commentary on women in media. As, despite being designed in a very shreksual way: She's *only* allowed to follow the status quo. Like, in YJ, she *could* comment on innuendos. But ONLY if they were said by a man. And the innuendo was male inclined. The show eagerly showed men without clothes. But, Mist, was pushed to the background and shamed. HQ is also a perfect example. It has a very strict... "What women are allowed to say and do". All under the guise of "progress". And this spread across all media. It's kinda... weirdly interesting to what I've noticed during all my years of researching it.
Honestly, if Lobo was like a representation of the Id, then Livewire is very much that of the Ego in this equation. As she very much is the victim of her own hubris in more ways than one. And as such, is almost pitiable in how much potential is wasted, due to her inability to put her own ego aside and really re-evaluate things.
Excited to watch this Parasite video you've got planned. Also still patiently waiting for a video on Batman Beyond's Ratboy, aka Patrick. He's still my favorite Batman Beyond villain, & I wanna hear your opinions on him Serum.
Always did enjoy the fun, interesting yet uncomplicated design for Leslie. And it's absolutely hilarious to see how getting actual superpowers did nothing but amp up her already selfish attitude to the point she went a bit mad with power and despite having Superman in her grip, still managed to foil herself.
Darkseid’s going on the next STAS villains poll. The video I put out on Monday was partially about Lex Luthor, but there’s an awful lot more to say about him!
Can we take a moment to appreciate that Live Wire's origin is basically just a pun for the term "Shock Jock?"
no. lol
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Shock Therapy
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I love Leslie’s pre-livewire transformation look. It just screams late-90s edgy alt chick.
thats what I was thinking! her character design is so fun to look at
Lol that was me, glasses, Wet N Wild black pencil for my whole face, and everything. God, I was so clueless back then.
I know. Who cares if it's a period piece, her look and attitude, for it's a Schway period piece!
I would give multiple appendages for a Leslie lookalike
DUDE I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE!
I always like Livewire. She’s such a different type of villain compared to other Superman rogues.
She’s the type of villain you can tell is always having fun doing what she does
Well, she is interesting
That’s probably why I liked her when watching STAS as a kid.
The reality of being the one without powers on a team of those who do have them
Not unlike Harley in BTAS, who genuinely seems to revel in the chaos and destruction she helps the Joker cause. Honestly, Livewire kinda reminds me of a mix between BTAS Harley and the Danny Phantom villain Ember. She wants people to know and remember who she is while also reveling in causing havoc. Seems like the writers probably had a blast working on Livewire's character.
@@comettamerNot really. With Ember perhaps but not Harley. Harley Quinn was a psychologist who tried to treat the joker but was manipulated by him and to become his sidekick/pawn.
Livewire was a shock jock who let herself be electrocuted after Superman tried to save her... It wasn't for the fact that she was a meta human she would have died.
I think it's kind of ironic, that she's a bit of a control freak, and wants to be the ringleader of her own life.... Yet she has barely any control over herself. if Toyman represents Superman's childlike innocence, and Metallo represents his heart and humanity, then I think Livewire representatives his self control.
@@nexik680 i like how there are parallels to be drawn between Superman and his rogue gallery.
Kinda like between Batman snd his rogues
@@KNadoli all great villains represent pieces of the heroes.
That's so cool to me.
I agree with this. Didn't take Livewire long to go a bit mad with power, to the point that despite having Superman in her grasp, her lack of self-control saw her easily goaded into foiling herself.
Leslie's superpower isn't electricity. It's the uncanny ability to be the only known person alive to look good in a hospital gown.
She can have both powers.
Shinji Ikari would disagree with you.
Lesley Willis seems to serve two thematic roles, as Casually Comics points out:
1. She serves as an avatar for the comic book reader audience that derides the idea of Superman as being lame and goody two shoes. It's important to note that even in real life, people doing good get unwarranted hate thrown at them
2. She's a semi feminist commentary on the male dominated shock jock industry, dominated usually by males. Her rhetoric makes her "one of the guys" in a way, which makes her such a popular voice in Metropolis,i think
1 - Brings into mind how the events of J.R.R. Tolkien's cut Lord of the Rings sequel "The New Shadow" came to be: good and peace can and will becomes inevitably boring and dull.
2 - A pity her becoming a villainess meant a lot of disillusionment from her fans. However, there's a chance she may still have admirers, not unlike some serial killers then and now.
One thing I like is, similar to how a lot of Harleys personality was inspired from her voice actress, Arleen Sorkin. A similar thing seems to have happened when developing Livewire with Lori Petty
Yeah her voice defines Livewire for me, its sad other portrayals don't try and channel her version of Livewire.
Petty's distinctive voice absolutely made Livewire
Lori Petty is an icon, and I agree, she absolutely made Live Wire.
A lesser role who actually got the "Can't Unhear It" trope treatment. Quite impressive.
3:35 She's a professional Bullshitter. It doesn't matter if she's right or wrong; she'll say whatever it takes to make you beleive in her. Real life politicians and business leaders thrive on this skill.
In other words, a grifter. It's questionable whether she even believed anything she said; she just knew that it got her ratings and a paycheck so she ran with it. She was just as immersed in the rat race as those against whom she appeared to rebel.
42nd 👍,
Powerscalers sometimes use the same tactics too
We really need to have penalties for that sort of thing.
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Can't blame her for her sassiness, but can blame her for her rudeness.
There's always a difference between confidence and over confidence.
Also doesn't help she's in the kind of job that rewards that kind of behavior, except with other folks it's enough of a "bit" they usually don't become genuinely bigger assholes.
I swear they did Harley so dirty in Girls Night Out. She was basically bullied and treated like an incompetent idiot for 20 minutes😭
Yeah, I know she's about to be the comedy relief sometimes, but that was painful.
All she does in that ep is hit things with a mallet but deal no damage, it's infuriating
@@Chadius and a few episodes later she casually kidnapped and almost killed Batman like it was nothing on a normal afternoon😭
@@Chadius I mean I get that the writers wanted to let us know that she’s just a girl with a big mallet with no real superpowers while Poison Ivy is literally mother nature but c‘mon stop embarrassing her like that😭
I feel like they had no idea what to do with her character after season 3, they gave her all that character development for nothing
That’s why her character and abilities are so inconsistent
Foreshadows her Gotham Girls self, in a way.
I like Livewire as a character. She is literally the very power that runs society, personified. She doesn't just abuse power, she IS power. She's one of those great highlights on what makes Superman better than his enemies - they are among the most powerful people on Earth, as he is, but Supes remains uncorrupted by his power. Then teaming her up with Parasite? Backing her with Luthor? They're all great ideas. Superman was born of the idea that somebody needs to use their power for the common good, and I think STAS really nailed that aspect of the franchise. It's not as complex as the meaning behind most Batman stories, but just as important. And I think STAS did a fantastic job adding depth in unexpected places, and rather tastefully even in its innuendos.
Ive always thought Livewire was one of the most underrated Superman villains with a lot of potential, and Ive always liked her, and Lori Petty does a great job voicing the character. She's such a chaotic, fun, yet sassy villain that can hurt Superman, not just with her electricity powers but with her words. I've always loved the idea of her being a shock jock reporter/podcaster who has an irrational, cynical distaste for Superman as a so-called "boy scout" whose empathy and altruism is seen as boring and corny in today's 21st-century society. Livewire represents how the younger generation today considers the actions of good people. You could really play into her being an online presence before being a villain as a commentary of specific online influencers spreading false information, hateful propaganda, and unreliable fearmongering, all to get attention, manipulate the masses and profit off of them for their own gain. Livewire could be a personification of how the media has affected the world today juxtaposed by actual good media that seeks the truth and shares it with the world with the need of manipulating the masses, as represented by good reporters like Lois, Clark and Jimmy as well as the Daily Planet. Superman can act as a pillar of trustful, reliable and genuine news, with altruistic values that people should listen to, thus that could cause Leslie WIllis to create her own hubris by becoming Livewire through some specific set of events that leads to her manipulating electricity, similar to how she did to manipulate the public, and being a real symbolic threat to Superman as his first villain, all the while Superman would have to grapple if Leslie is right and whether his values and identity do have a place in this world today and whether being Superman is worth all the hate and xenophobia that is yet to come as if the idea of becoming Superman is just a naive fantasy from an equally naive farm boy from Kansas. I think that would be interesting to explore, taking elements from Whatever Happened To Truth, Justice, And The American Way comic storyline.
I had an idea for a film with her and Lex Luthor being the main villains, trying to keep the 90s Blade Runner type Metropolis a hellhole where the only source of joy is the fleeting feeling of pleasure. With Lex pretending to be an ally, trying to get Superman to sell out to him and livewire rallying public opinion against him. He even goes to Gotham and it looks like paradise in contrast despite being the posterboy for 1930s type major city. In the end, Metropolis made more of the likeness of Back to the Future part 2, making it clear that Superman intends to help turn Metropolis into the peak of atomic age optimism.
You took the words right outta mouth, I too saw too see that potential in Livewire.
Livewire's character in the 90s show could work nowadays being skeptical of Supes and diving into conspiracy theorists nowadays. Reaching that spectrum but also Livewire showing she loves having power and doesn't want to change.
As politics is a big issue for American audiences now these days...she thrive on the manipulation and try to change the world for the "Better".
"In charge" - I see what you did there! 😂🤣😂🤣😂
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@@SerumLake please make a video explaining the history of the dc comics and Static Shock cartoon series villain named HotStreak please
@@SerumLakeDo you have any intentions on covering the Watchmen animated trailer?
@@marktheshark7588 No
Both LiveWire and Volcana, in my opinion were like the Poison ivy and Harley Quinn to Superman. And I always had this theory about LiveWire on how she seems to be almost like borderline obsessive with Superman at times to where like it felt she was in love with the man of steel, I mean technically she gave him a “shock to the heart.”
yeah I also kinda wished they explored that, heck to me it would be even more interesting if she actually does hate superman but genuinely likes/was attracted to clark for all the same reason she finds superman fake. (would be a neat little twist on how lois is often presented as more romantic with superman vs clark)
Someone once lamented that Volcana could have been the Catwoman of Superman TAS, and honestly I feel that being a missed opportunity.
@@TheChildofAuraReborn Both Livewire and Volcana were criminally underused on STAS, Volcana herself appearing in only 2 eps max. I think with BTAS, it was the perfect storm of factors: Harley Quinn was such an inspired character, who had an inspired look and a great VA to boot. She pairs extremely well with others in different situations, be it Ivy, Batman and especially Joker. I don't think Livewire or Volcana had that opportunity to pair like Harley did
Sounds more like a headcanon than a theory
I like the little detail that shows she stepped on a cable as she gets struck by the lightning and you can see the bolt going from her through the cable
I wish we'd gotten to see her sharing the screen with DCAU Lobo. Those two would be a volatile combination.
Or even battle Static in Static Shock.
Just commented something along the lines of this and didn't even see your comment, I wholeheartedly agree.
@@michaelandreipalon359she fought Black Lightning in SS. It was as innuendo charged as you can expect
@@nyetloki The mainline universe comics, you mean, not the DCAU cartoon.
@@michaelandreipalon359 whoops I was thinking Batman assault on Arkham, but nope it was Young Justice ruclips.net/video/esTpliFBQ6E/видео.html
"Villains use their bad day as an excuse to break the world, but heroes use their bad day as an excuse to fix the world." I think there's something interesting about how villains often feel they are owed something from the world whilst heroes feel that they owe the world something. The duality of selfishness and selflessness often being paired with obligations and debt.
Just look at Titan from Megamind: A cautionary tale about the dangers of believing that the real world works the same way it does in comic books and fiction.
But then you also have the Parallax arc: An example of what happens when heroes keep giving and giving only to suffer tragedy after tragedy.
I suppose there is some merit to this quote then...
"You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain."
I really like Livewire and honestly wish they stayed the idea of her redemption...but I am a sucker for those. It's a shame comic stuff rarely lets those stick
Just what were the JL+JLU creators thinking, not wanting to keep the tie-in comics canon?
Lesly is the type of person to complain that life aint fair when thing dont go her way yet never realizes half the times its just a coincidence and the other half is her own dang ego fault
what's really awesome about her is that lori petty (tankgirl) did her voice
I remember being unreasonably jazzed when I realized she was both playable and voiced in Lego DC Supervillains. Nice to see the character do stuff again, even if she's probably never going to be as enormous as Harley.
I think she's the sort of villain that benefits from a redemption arc. Great design and powers, and she could be a good person and hero if she worked on her horrific ego and thought about helping others
One time in the comics she actually became a hero and became a part of a superhero team created by Superman. Her powers were overloading and Superman gave her his suit from when he had those eletric powers
Which comic is this?
Oh my stars and garters you're finally doing her I can't wait she's hella underrated and one of my favorite Superman villains. Definitely in my top 10.
Just finished Superman last week. Her episodes were definitely some of my favorites.
Always been kinda funny to me how she's an obnoxious egotistical type of person but also undeniably sexy and fun to watch as a villain.
I don't know much about Livewire, but I find her interesting. I think the most interesting thing about her is that she seems to have the wits, guts, and smarts to get whatever she sets her mind to. The only thing that's stopping her is that she tries to take shortcuts and disregards things keeping her safe, which always end up sabotaging her. Her worst enemy is herself, and it's probably the only thing holding her back.
It is a shame that the show squanders Livewire's redemption arc, but I don't think it's entirely out of character.
Also, I just have to say that I love 2:52 where the lightning and the words "News Flash!" happened together. That's got to have been intentional.
S: TAS didn't squander it, it's the fault of sequel series Justice League+Unlimited, in what may be a need to stay away from the otherwise great comics so to avoid "Continuity Lockout".
Didn't stop them from featuring Deadman and Mister Miracle without a proper first introduction though.
Leslie: I need someone to blame for my problems, otherwise it's all my fault.
That's her about what happened to her.
One thing that's interesting about Parasite in the DCAU is that his face bears the resemblance of the Raymond Jensen incarnation, while the rest of his body is more like the Rudy Jones version of the character from the comics. While he doesn't appear to have any leech teeth like his comic counterpart, there is a slight reference to that aspect during Rudy's gruesome transformation in "Feeding Time". "Two's a Crowd" also references a similar incident that happened to Parasite in the comics. Also, similar to btas, stas shows how despite his monstrous form, Parasite is given some humility by having characters (including Superman) refer to him as "Rudy" in most of his appearances.
With how social media is huge thing , as well all the grifters using it to lash out on others, Livewire is one those villains that I'm surprise DC didn't use it in their films yet. I really hope she appears in the DCU Superman movies. Not only she would be the first female main villain in a Superman film but also could easly work as foe for both Superman as well Clark and Lois, since they are reporters trying to expose the truth while Livewire uses her influence in media to twist the truth for her own selfish goals.
I like the voice they cast for Livewire, works really well.
Tank Girl herself!
Rare is a casting misfire in the DCAU.
I like that her STAS design resembles Superman’s electric form, not sure what came first
thank you so much for doing a vid on her! she’s my all time favorite superman villain! wish volcana could have reached the same popularity. love lori petty as her voice! i can’t imagine anyone else voicing her now!
Honestly, the creators had some sort of idea in their minds of Livewire being some kind of Harley Quinn type character... Except for the fact that Harley Quinn was a figure created by tragedy.
Leslie however, brought all this on her own head. But, she is rather interesting. However, I just wish that the writers would know what to do with her more often.
@@seeleunit2000 it may have to do with the gothic nature of Batman and Harley's design that makes her more long lasting in appeal.
Livewire is a character study in man's relationship to power and what to do with it, which can be said for so many Superman rogues. I think Superman's rogues are great, but mainstream i think is attracted more to the macabre and tragicomic of the Batman villains
Livewire is honestly one of the most interesting characters. She proved to be a great elemental threat to Superman and her personality was quite..LIVELY😄. Although she doesn’t really understand that even men especially Superman have hard if not harder struggles. She’s basically addicted to attention and feeling more validated than others. Kinda wish she had more appearances because of well written she was. So much more potential for this villain.
Well, I think her hatred of Superman is a commentary on surface level feminism. She places all the blame for her troubles on “men in general”, but never targets the specific men in power. She works for Lex Luther, the man who pays most of the men she sees as getting a free pass. Does she try to go independent and offer some criticism of this? Network with other acclaimed women in news, like Lois Lane, to bring attention to the subject? Offer any support to other women facing these struggles? No. She doesn’t want a better lot in life for all women; she wants one of the lots the patriarchs already have. She doesn’t want equality for all, she wants to be equal to those in power
I like that My Adventures with Superman decided to put Livewire in the spotlight by having her be one of the main villains for most of the first season.
@kamikazelemming1552 too bad MAWS version of Livewire is pretty underwhelming.
@@kamikazelemming1552 A shame they wasted all of the screen time by not giving her an interesting character or costume design.
I have mixed feelings about MAWS's Livewire. Sure they gave her electricity powers and more, but they really Nerf down her personality. The original was a shockjocker turn anarchist, the new one is just a thief. I guess they had to abandon the whole "shock jock" thing since the government put leash laws on them IRL. But I do like the relationship she has with Heatwave. They gave her a sort of this hopeless romantic side of her that I can respect. "Love is NOT for Coward."
@@tylerbertram7065Most of the villains in my adventures are underwhelming, except for Brainiac, Mxy and Parasite.
@@tayojones9460 well you're not wrong
Seeing Livewire team up with Harley and Ivy reminded me of Darkwing Duck's adversaries The Fearsome Five, but only 3/5th's of the way, as they were lacking expies of NegaDuck and Liquidator at the time.
With the way her character was going in the comics, if the New 52 didn't happen, I could imagine the Young All-Stars being brought back with Livewire as one of its members.
This definitely my favorite villain from the show
Still disappointed by how little she appears in stuff
Well I hope you enjoy the video once it goes live 🫡
She's in MAWS a lot
@chickadeestevenson5440 She's kind of a waste in MAWS. She's visually boring even after she gets powers, and has almost no character, which is a shame because she's one of my favorite characters in the og show.
holy shit i love Livewire's pre transformation look. the clothing, the glasses?!
Yeahh its pretty cool
In the DC Super Hero Girls (2019) iteration, she's an internet troll/bully and it really feels like a natural evolution of her previous STAS lore and character, modernizing her.
Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn and Livewire make a deadly trio.
Honestly I kinda think the reason why Livewire’s powers hurt Superman is because she’s created from the same “energy wavelength” that’s coming off of Clark due to the yellow sun. It’s basically being hit with his own bio-electricity essentially
@@dejaypage1575 That makes more sense than him just being vulnerable to electricity.
Considering that she's currently a metahuman made out of pure electricity, any living being would get hurt being smacked by lightning
Honestly I still think she can mess with his Bio-energy field. Given she wears a suit for a bit that Blue-Energy Clark wore
@@jeggsonvohees2201Superman's a Kryptonian but he still has a nervous and muscular system
Edison demonstrated the danger of Telsa superior AC electricty by using to kill an elephant.
Livewire was such a fun Superman TAS villainess (alongside Volcana, but my simping over her will have to be for another time, lol). Despite being an absolutely awful person, she was loud, flashy, confident, and had so much charm as a character; she was a train crash that you couldn't look away from. I think the biggest missed opportunity was not having her team up with Lobo; the Parasite team up was a good episode in showing how teaming up with someone who has just as much ill intent as you do makes for an unreliable alliance, but the dynamic between her and Lobo would have been legendary. And I don't care if people make fun of Bruce Timm's design process for female characters (even though it's A) very efficient for animation and B) Great and easy at visually implying what kind of power or theme the villain has), the blue color palette and lightning dip is iconic, especially since the lore is that she chose it for herself. She may hate unwanted attention but she likes to be sexy and flaunt herself.
And I'm sure I'll catch flak for it but I'll say it: the MAWS version of Livewire has to be the most boring cartoon incarnation of her to ever exist. The ugly-ass haircut, the lack of lightning motif in her design, the horrible character origin switch from a loudmouth radio personality to a boring merc-type weapons dealer in a show where apparently EVERYONE is a merc-type character. Also not to mention the absolute lack of sexiness. They did her so dirty.
Definitely my favorite superman villain thanks for covering her!
I would like to point out that at the moment She was struck by the lightning, it first passed through Superman, and then to her. My theory is that when it struck Superman, it gain his alien/sun-powered energy, which then was infused into Livewire when the lightning jumped to her.
10:21 "being groped" shows Livewire forcing a kiss on a man 💀
But in all seriousness, cool video, dude 👍
I love the detail from the TAS comic that Livewire is one of the rare metahumans whose powers have no limits. She can absorb and channel infinite amounts of energy. I like that she has so much power but is so petty.
She also had a little brother in the comics who went full-on yandere for Lois, and the B-plot of her debut involved him teaming up with a newly freed-from-the-US-Tax-Code (it makes sense if you have the context, I swear to God it does) Queen of Fables to try and win Lois' heart.
Is the context similar to how she got trapped in a book in the Harley Quinn TV series?
@mitchfletcher2386 can't remember how she got stuck in the show, but in _Midsummer's Nightmare_ the JL trapped her within the Tax Code because her magic is powered by fiction and it was assumed that sealing her in a book of law would render her powerless.
Turns out that rich people will make up as much nonsense as they can to keep their money, so she was able to quite literally exploit loopholes to get free.
@@nicholasfarrell5981 Not the Superman Adventures tie-ins, I assume?
@michaelandreipalon359 no, this was in the main continuity.
I like that Leslie and Lois are given a prominent scene to interact with each other precisely to contrast their respective cynical attitudes. They're both reporters of a fashion, both women with the cool, sarcastic exterior of a hard-bitten urbanite, both highly critical of Metropolis' state of affairs.
But where Lois' cynicism is a mask of safety, the armor of a jaded idealist who felt as though she had to "toughen up" to continue making a positive difference in the way she ultimately desires, Leslie's mask cynicism is inverted: a mask of Lois' mask. Lex Luthor's controlled opposition, co-opting the archetype of girlboss feminist speaking truth to power to spread antisocial propaganda.
And much like that second type of cynic, all of this is ultimately just a facade to mask a desire for attention and control, a cynicism born out of dissatisfaction purely with one's own alienation in society, and not the broader injustices affecting everyone. Hence, why her "shock jock" gimmick doesn't stick around after she becomes Live Wire.
If Lois got superpowers, would she quit journalism? You already know the answer. Superman didn't even do that, and he isn't even really as passionate about journalism as a profession. It's a quiet job that gives Clark Kent a roof over his head and a place to be for the day, while Superman gets to hear about trouble at the source and do *his* job easier. Clark Kent writes good articles, sure, but Lois Lane wins Pulitzers.
Leslie, though? She puts herself on billboards, on TV, she robs banks, she has girl's nights, she certainly isn't clocking in at the station now that she's a metahuman. Radio was simply her greatest expression of power, to be replaced when it was surpassed.
Livewire was and still is my favorite villainess. I believe it was a missed opportunity to explore her life as a hero.
I found Livewire very similar to Roxy Rocket from the New Adventures, but she was just cooler. Kinda liked the idea of Metropolis finally getting their own version of J.Jonah Jameson.
She was one of my favorite things about STAS, but Lori Petty, Tank Girl her self, being cast was the chef's kiss that made her perfect
I really, really wish they would put her against Punchline, as Punchline feels like the 202X version of a woman Shock Jock in a lot of ways.
Going with how Livewire has accumulated at least some interesting ideas over time, it would be interesting to pit this character who came from the same period as Harley against her, but without just using Harley, as a twist to how people see Punchline as a new HQ in the first place.
One of my favorite characters from the animated Superman Series. I was always excited whenever she popped up in a new episode.
The interesting mirror livewire shows to the struggle women suffer from, is that among the valid movement, there hide selfish people.
But at the same time, only cause they are selfish, doesnt mean the problems arent real.
Live wire doesnt care about women, only herself.
But despite her selfishness, she still faces the same problems as other women.
But through her actions and behavior, she doesnt get the sympathy or moral highground that most women "punching up" get.
In short, every group has their bad eggs.
Livewire is one of those.
Livewire is Superman's J Jonah Jameson
“BRING ME PICTURES OF SUPERMAN!”
I’ll disagree. He is misguided like Livewire, but unlike her Jameson actually cares about the people of NY.
@Victor-qx3vx yeah, I know.
@@SerumLake Ha Good one 👍
@@SerumLake "Sexy pictures."
It's honestly baffling that they didn't make her into some sort of podcaster
In that context I can see her working especially given controversial radio hosts/podcasters are still relevant.
I adore Livewire. I wish we could have seen more of her.
Same.
I wish I can see a “zap!” On screen when she shocks someone.
I've been stuck watching your content, it's soo good and wonderfully made!!
Have you ever thought, or have already done, some coverage on the Batman audio adventures?
I hadn’t really considered it because I tend to focus on the DCAU (and the tangentially related projects) but never say never!
I would love to see a modern live action LiveWire as an insufferable social media influencer
If I'm remembering right, I'm pretty sure that "DC Superhero Girls" did that.
I always find Livewire is done dirty in comic adaptations. In TAS we see she is incredibly powerful, able to travel through power cables within Metropolis, putting herself on every screen and later absorb more electricity in order to gain greater power and strength as seen when she picks up and throws a turbine for the hydo-dam. The tie-in comics for Superman TAS continued to show us this level of power, even having Livewire be a key character in the final two issues where she is to be a battery for Darkseid's new doomsday weapon. But in the comics she is just a low level female Electro. Often only able to blast people with lightning and having no higher level of strength/durability, people like Batgirl are able to beat her with relative ease, providing their costume is insulated. She goes from being a tricky threat to handle/contain to a jobber who has only one trick.
Ive had this vision of Livewire of making her a bigger deal, I see this potential where what if she was like Superman's equivalent of J Jonah Janerson but actualy becoming a villian, besides her actual powers she could use her voice a radio jockey to cause doubt & anger towards Superman, Livewire could be a bigger & very interesting theart.
I can definitely see livewire work as a potential villain given that many Alex Jones esc radio hosts are still relevant
Livewire is in my favorite category of villains. She's destructive and dangerous because she's wants to. She's a woman who wants to have fun.
You know what’s funny? Modern incarnations of Harley Quinn basically have Livewire’s rude, crass, violent, sexual “Tank Girl” personality. Thus it’s funny how Livewire isn’t as popular as Harley since they had to basically make Harley into Livewire personality wise.
She’s the character I wish modern DC turned into their Deadpool wannabe
Honestly I could see it costly annoying everyone funny never shutting up
I always thought in my head that condimint king could work as a dc villan deadpool because hes a joke character
Thats what they Did with Harley
Livewire was a great villain for Superman.
It is a shame she did not get a major role in JLU, but with so many characters, I guess the creative team did not have enough time to feature her. I am almost glad she is not as popular as Quinn because if she was, DC and warner brothers would overexpose her (of course when you consider her personality, I doubt she would have a problem with that).
Livewire had such a unique voice, a shame they never got the actress back after Justice League. Modernizing her would be pretty easy thanks to plenty of jerks and conspiracy nuts on Social Media.
Yeah, Livewire being voiced by Hawkgirl of all folks just didn't seem right.
Then again, in the same ep, Metallo wasn't voiced by Malcom McDowell either, though he did return in JLU's "Chaos at the Earth's Core".
I like double dose was the writers experimenting and seeing how far can they push the network.
The original Livewire is my absolute favorite version of Livewire, mostly because, no matter what she’s doing you can tell she’s having fun while doing it.
I'd be interesting to see her referenced in the new Superman film, even if just as a voice.
Maybe they could adapt her as a podcast host/TikToker that her entire content is her trashing not only Supes but all heroes altogether, considering how hate culture is stronger than ever
Lori Petty actually autographed my Point Break DVD, talked about Katherine Bigelow
Very cool!
I never noticed the Lex Luthor connection in her debut. But wow.
So I just had a realization: Livewire's weakness is water since it causes her electricity to get conducted back onto her. So does that means she can't drink? I mean I'd assume being a living electricity conduit makes her able to survive purely off electricity, but with some superheroes and villains who otherwise can't do things like eat or sleep or need or perform normal human functions... Sounds horrifying.
StAS Livewire always struck me as an example of a person who feigns victim hood for clout, and to stroke their ego.
I feel like a good redemption ark for her would have involved her getting humbled by people who really had gone through what she claimed she had, and/or people who she couldn’t claim being victimized by.
She would have made for some really great Wonder Woman focused Justice League episodes.
Imagine if Livewire and Lobo got together. The surrounding cities don't stand a chance.
You know Superman really doesn’t have enough villains that can hurt him physically or even have a J.Jonah Jameson type character who doesn’t like the hero and I always get confused with her and Killer Frost as they have the same colour scheme and a sadistic personality as she is just a female Electro.
Livewire is basically DC’s Electro
But cool (hot take here oh boy)
One of the plot threads cut by the Flashpoint/New-52 was Livewire eventual redemption arc. In one of the last issue of the New Earth Superman she received the old contaiment suit from the "energy Superman" era, since she was at risk of turning into pure energy. Apparently, this gave her both more control over her powers and a way to "think more clearly", implying that channeling all that electricity was scrambling her mind.
Livewire has such a great design and the kind of extreme personality that stands out.
Plus I do appreciate that she is truly her worst enemy. And her problem with Superman being so misplaced just works. Just a really selfish person that twists anything into both being not her fault and being an excuse for her to lash out.
We also got another live action Livewire in the Arrowverse's "Supergirl" series.
Given the characterization, I'm surprised she'd hate the new look. :]
12:31 Boo. They gave her blonde hair. I wish they keep her original civilian look. Its shame we never got more goth/alternative styled characters.
Just love Lori Petty!❤️ Our sexy Badass Tank Girl was perfect to play a gal who gives no bucks about our favorite boy scout! Though brash and obnoxious, she's definitely one of the few memorable villians welomed in TAS!❤️ I personally love Girls Night Out as it has all my fave gals in one episode! Sad she got relegated to a few cameos and some redemption comics. Still, love her as another villian in the DC rogues...and is funny with Heateave in My Adventures with Superman!
Don't you mean Heatwave in My Adventures with Superman?
@@ShyBiiteVT yeah got the name mixed
Honestly, I find that the message of LiveWire is not how women are treated worse, but how this disposition can be radicalized and exploited as well. It basically shows toxic feminism/victimhood: a sound base, but completely selfish and wrong.
So, did Livewire technically predict the modern “Girl Boss” character concept? Because…yeah; she kinda fits the idea to a T!
Im not sure why but Livewire always reminded of Electro from The Spectacular Spiderman but also opposites on how they treat their Elec. powers. Max hated his power and wanted to find a cure to turn himself back to normel, meanwhile Leslie loved getting her powers and used it for herself. I wonder if Electro was the thing they got some of the ideas for Livewire.
Although it may depend on which version of Electro because almost all of them are different but Livewire is a lot more consistent between adaptations
@@michaelnally2841 yeah i really dont know much of the other Electros. The only ones i know are from Spectacular Spiderman, Amazing Spiderman 2, and the PS4 Spider Man game.
Her last appearance in the DCAU is just her key art from the STAS days seemingly pasted in next to a number of Secret Society members. It's like they couldn't actually get her to join and they instead made a cardboard cutout.
Livewire is honestly quite a decent commentary on women in media. As, despite being designed in a very shreksual way: She's *only* allowed to follow the status quo. Like, in YJ, she *could* comment on innuendos. But ONLY if they were said by a man. And the innuendo was male inclined. The show eagerly showed men without clothes. But, Mist, was pushed to the background and shamed. HQ is also a perfect example. It has a very strict... "What women are allowed to say and do". All under the guise of "progress". And this spread across all media. It's kinda... weirdly interesting to what I've noticed during all my years of researching it.
Seeing that my adventures with superman design was actually painful. My god did they even try!?
Honestly, if Lobo was like a representation of the Id, then Livewire is very much that of the Ego in this equation. As she very much is the victim of her own hubris in more ways than one. And as such, is almost pitiable in how much potential is wasted, due to her inability to put her own ego aside and really re-evaluate things.
Is it just me, or did Leslie get hotter after being transformed by the lightning?
Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!
We love Livewire cause deep down we all need a rock/goth chick dommy mommy.
Excited to watch this Parasite video you've got planned. Also still patiently waiting for a video on Batman Beyond's Ratboy, aka Patrick. He's still my favorite Batman Beyond villain, & I wanna hear your opinions on him Serum.
Patrick the Rat Boy will be in the next Batman Beyond villain poll, which will go live after the Stalker video 🫡
Always did enjoy the fun, interesting yet uncomplicated design for Leslie. And it's absolutely hilarious to see how getting actual superpowers did nothing but amp up her already selfish attitude to the point she went a bit mad with power and despite having Superman in her grip, still managed to foil herself.
Very clever. Nice, after Parasite, I hope that you can cover Lex Luthor, and later Darkseid.
Darkseid’s going on the next STAS villains poll. The video I put out on Monday was partially about Lex Luthor, but there’s an awful lot more to say about him!
I love that she is voiced by Tank Girl (Lori Petty)