The biggest problem for me is that they tried to do the semi live action but really just a bunch of cgi route with this like hello the original lion king is one of your most successful and beloved ANIMATED movies and if the mufasa story was something they actually cared about they should have made it more in the style of the original it is really dumb they went like with the style of the remake when will Disney learn like it should be something so easy for Disney to do hire decent animators to do the work needed to make a decent movie but no they had to go the dull route and make a really terrible looking movie that probably cost way too much to produce rather than actually animating it where it would probably cost less and make them more money what a joke
Dont worry, this movie never happened! I refuse to watch it! Might as well be a fan film because as far as Im concerned, NONE of this is canon! The 2020s needs to stop violating my childhood! 😭
that is 100% my biggest beef with it. it retcons the story and suddenly you're like "well if this is true, I get why Scar would be pissed" but it's not. it's just shitty storytelling.
@@laurendiane1244 EXACTLY!!! A better Lion King prequel could focus on a Cain and Abel-style story between Scar and Mufasa, showing how their relationship was shaped by their father’s favoritism. The father favors Mufasa, the physically strong and charismatic heir, while Scar struggles to measure up and earn his approval. Scar’s jealousy grows even more when Mufasa wins over Sarabi, who Scar secretly admires. Around the middle of the movie, Mufasa becomes king, and Scar tries to sabotage his reign multiple times but always fails. The film ends with Simba’s presentation, where it’s revealed that Scar was there, watching from the shadows. His sadness turns into anger, setting up the events of the original movie. See how I made a better plot in like 5 minutes lol? 🤣
Nothing drains the majesty and mystique of a rock formation like Pride Rock like finding out it was formed in less than afternoon and within the life times of the supporting characters
The fact they literally crap on Mufasa's "kings of old" dialogue is enough to make it awful, but not only that, making Mufasa THE actual usurper of the throne is disgusting.
I liked how this movie essentially took the canon of Simba coming from a long line of great kings of the past as Mufasa said and just completely destroyed it to make a soulless prequel story.
@@royallyrain glad you liked it. For me, it comes off as a bad cash grab that tries to pull elements from the original which was an amazing movie with a good story and compelling characters. No one really asked for this movie. And everything that made the first movie good is done worse here. The brother song is a rip off of can't wait to be king. Bye bye is a really poor version of be prepared. The elephant stampede is a rip off of the one that killed mufasa. In fact they use it twice when they do the fast zoom in on mufasas face when the flash flood happens. Same as when Simba sees the stampede. My biggest gripe though is why scar so easily capitulates to the bad lions after he literally murdered his whole family and wants to murder him. It felt really forced to me. And then the white lions aren't actually beaten by mufasa and the other animals. The earth literally opens up and eats them and the rock squashes the bad lion...just like in land before time. In trying to explain things in the first movie, they make more plot holes like the one atraina said: Mufasa is not royalty in this movie. He is made king after rallying the other animals into...doing whatever to defeat the white lions. Then in the original, he tells Simba he comes from a long line of great kings. Except he doesn't. Scar is the royal bloodline. So I was expecting his parents to show up in the great valley and tell mufasa he was royalty all along to try to fill said plot hole. But they didn't. So....long story short, Simba is not from long line of great kings.
@@supermodestmouse I understand people are upset because the story "was changed" mainly how he's not nobility and how Taka was always rightful king. To anyone, it's really weird and shocking. I'm not new to TLK though, as many I grew up on it, I was 6 when I first watched it and now I'm 36. I even read the books back then and before anyone says they're not canon yes I know, you don't need to tell me but they're still Disney property and the books are where Taka's name came from and now they used it in Mufasa, so maybe the books can be considered semi-canon now. But I'm just trying to see it in a way like, TLK's story was always changing, as a 6 year old you're not going to understand what canon means or even is, you're just a kid watching/reading this story and our canon was that Simba had a son named Kopa and then he's nowhere to be seen as it was changed to Kiara, then Kion comes along almost 2 decades later. I see TLK as an everchanging and growing story to have fun with. I'm also an artist so I grew up following other artists who made their own headcanons and "what if?'s and mixing and matching the movie canon with the books and it was really fun. So I suppose that's why I'm not so upset, it's another AU, another canon made to the story and I think that's alright.
Hey, remember back in the day when fans griped about the original character design, and they all bitched so hard that the filmmakers stalled the initial release date just to update the character model? A jolly-good time, that was…
Sonic destroyed Bird Of Prey in 2020 Sonic destroyed Morbius in 2022 And now Shadow has dethroned Mufasa in 2024 EDIT: ALRIGHT! I’ve seen your comments about Birds of Prey, let me explain. After BOP bombed at the box office, Birds of Prey fans were trying to sabotage Sonic Movie 1 by saying a lot of nasty things about the movie and to go see BOP instead, keep in mind this was before Sonic 1 released in theaters, and majority of those BOP fans were from Twitter. Regardless, Sonic 1 had the upper hand regarding box office numbers. I might see BOP one day to judge it for myself, but the only thing I knew about BOP was their fans trying to hijack Sonic 1.
On a tangentially related note, it's wild how Shadow's game went from near universally panned in 2005 to me unironically excited to hopefully see Black Doom in a movie.
I felt so alone as a kid when all of my friends were saying that shadow the hedgehog game was bad, but i actually really liked it T.T The multiple endings and paths were the selling point for me
in the original Lion King, it wasn't just implied that Mufasa was king because he was Scar's older brother, so therefore next in line, but Scar out right makes a snide remark about it in that first scenes after Simba's ceremony in the very beginning when Mufasa gives Scar a stern talking to for not attending. and if you were really into the Lion King there were stories about Scar and Mufasa's past, that outright states they were non-adopted siblings, and Mufasa was the older one who was next in line to be king. I haven't seen this new film, but I already was soured on it when I heard about this retcon of Mufasa being adopted.
Honestly I have mixed feeling with the fact that Mufasa is adopted brother because it makes sense to avoid incest plotline like real life lion pride but at the same time it completely destroyed the whole narrative of Lion King and I'm not even a hardcore fan; still I think it sucks & I felt 'betrayed'.
Scar was EXPLICITLY stated to be Mufasa's GENETIC SIBLING. Scar even states, "As far as brains go, I got the lion's share, but when it comes to brute strength, I'm afraid I'm at the shallow end of the gene pool." Why would he have said that if he KNEW he had no relation to Mufasa whatsoever? The prequel is NON-CANONICAL!! Disregard it completely!
Disregard it because it's non-canonical or disregard it because you guys think nobody liked it? I thought it was a fun movie, never once did I watch it thinking my understanding of the original would be changed because it wasn't supposed to
Oh my God that movie is fucking tripping!!!! Best Transformers I’ve seen maybe ever. Better than the original ‘86 classic. Successfully portrays Megatron as a tragic figure.
its not just Disney, literally every new thing that comes out is in an attempt to become the next big franchiese. Its just sad that now, a lot of CEO from other studios are making it a popular idea to completely phase out true animated productions in favor for more celeb focused releases.
@@sarahhenry3607mb, i never saw any ads or anything for it. Ive seen some reviews about it but probs forgot if they mentioned it. Either way its a sobering reminder of how the charm and magic is kinda lost lately.
@@sarahhenry3607I didn't hear about it until after it was released so depends on your media diet. All I saw was an extremely mid-looking Disney film and ignored it. Then when I saw the concept art of the Star-Boy they cut from the movie I became angry at it instead of forgetting about it.
6:45 This 100%. The prequel botched it so bad. The circle of life is presented like its a deep law of nature, not just between the lions, but shared by all living creatures. Almost like a religion, passed down and shared by all animals, and his position as king isn’t a reward, its a responsibility, just as Mufasa’s father told him, right? Nope, Mufasa just freestyled it on the fly according to the prequel lol
Ever since the trailer came out I've been thinking about other ways they could have written this story to make it work with what we're told about Mufasa and Scar in the first movie. Mufasa and Scar should have been biological brothers, and they should have been born in a litter of 3 cubs. Mufasa being the first born and immediate heir to the throne, a middle cub and Scar as the runt. Scar struggles and is jealous of his brothers, but is cunning from an early age. As cubs they are playing he slyly creates an "accident" that gets the middle cub killed and gives him his Scar in the process. This shows he was always the bad guy and would add more weight to the look of realisation in Mufasa's eyes when Scar betrays him and throws him off the cliff. Their parents (rightfully) blame Taka for the death of the middle cub, and thus refer to him as Scar as a reminder that they don't forgive him for not being the one that died. This adds to his resentment and explains why he is so hellbent on getting rid of Mufasa.
I’m not justifying the “creative decision” they made regarding this storyline - it seems like the main concern with this and the 2019 version was making it “more realistic” to nature. In real life, young adolescent male lions are exiled from their prides by the adult male (there can only be one male - to reduce any competition for mating privileges with females in the pride). If the exiled males survive into adulthood, they’ll come back or find another lion pride and fight the dominant male to the death or until the leader submits. So I see what they were going for with this storyline, but I think most people would agree that the Lion King and its lore don’t NEED to be realistic to nature. We as humans have very different rules for our societies; it feels like the emotional impact of the original 2D movies is far greater than the recent “live action” saga because these characters were put into scenarios that we as humans would relate and connect to. Long story short, Disney putting these characters into “more realistic” scenarios just made the storyline SUCK.
I am sick and tired of that whole "Oh he's not actually evil, he's missunderstood." No Scar is not missunderstood, he's a jealous, selfish and narcissistic character, not hesitating to kill his own brother and nephew to be in power. So what's next Disney ? Trying to give judge Claude Frollo a sympathetic backstory ?
honestly the musical does do this (quasi is jehan frollo's bastard child and Claude's racism/"faith" directly lead to the death of jehan the thing is that it works because it isn't really played for sympathy and doesn't justify Claude's actions-rather, it contextualizes his later atrocities
@andrew23456able Well which musical are you referring to here? The French musical Notre Dame de Paris? Or the musical stage adaptation of the Disney movie that went to Papermill Playhouse? I've seen both versions, read the book, and I love the Disney movie. So I'd be happy to discuss any of them.
@@AaaaNinja Bro, I really don't think someone like Rafiki would lie about something like this. Unless he really was that whimsical and decided to just mess with the kids. It's still a dumb premise.
One "no" from a girl with the personality of a boiled potato and mommy issues that came out of absolute nowhere. Yep, that's definitely the same Scar from the 1994 classic. Not bastardized at all.
All this movie did was show us scar had a damn good reason not to like mufasa "I invited an orphan to stay with my family and then he stole the fucking throne from me."
Well that's technically how lion pride works where foreign young male lion challenge other lion pride or tribe for leadership position and it makes more sense to avoid incest. Unfortunately reality & escapism don't go well together because lion king is supposedly hereditary royal title where two biological brothers fought for the throne but it turned out that it's similar to real life lion's tribal hierarchy with few modifications to adjust for family-friendly oriented audiences.
@@royallyrain Lion King is made by Disney and I think they want to remake it based on real life lion pride and maybe immigration/adoption issues commentary for social justice points I guess.
In many cultures parents give children lame and bad names out of hope that the evil spirits wont want to take them. Considering Scar was constantly whining about being the weak one in the OG, i can imagine him being a runt as a kid. Thats my headcanon anyway, im well aware Disney just gave him lame name because hes the villain
Wait, so Scar is called Taka, he awkwardly pursues Sarabi, makes a deal with the villain when she falls for Mufasa, and ends up getting his Scar as a result of saving Mufasa... Are they actually cribbing from 90's Lion King fanfiction?!
To be fair, there was a tie-in book series where Scar was called Taka. They didn't just make that up out of nowhere. But the books weren't considered canon, just a basis for fanart and fanfic back in the day.
Given how this movie is doing at the box office, its crazy that Disney is having to relearn why these types of movies used to only be released straight to video. Just a complete failure of corporate management
What they should really do is innovate on the structure of a sequel just the same way Rice and Ashman innovated the structure of a kid's animated movie musical back in the 90s
its not just that. There is a big CEO who is making it their mission to completely phase out animated works in their own studios/getting others to follow his design. Its a bit of a rabbit hole to get into, but CartoonNetwork is gonna be the first to fall completely.
The second they decided To retcon the brotherly aspect and they actually tried to give Scar a reason to be sympathized knowing this is the same character who killed his brother and tried to kill his nephew
But is it actually a retcon? This is a story being told by Rafiki to Kiara. Not a literal visit backwards in time. Why do people not understand that? When your mom tells a story about what happened to her the other day does she not embellish things? Rafiki is telling the story and he gave himself magical soothsaying powers above what you'd be able to reasonably expect from someone who just performs duties as a shaman.
It’s totally ok to make deeper characters but the way Disney does these things don’t really work. Either you create a sympathetic villain who redeems themselves, or a sympathetic villain who is good but has flaws that you can see so them turning into a villain with those unchecked flaws becomes too much. Disney CAN do it. But I’d never trust modern Disney for it. Their last good movie was Encanto. And that’s it.
As far as style goes, I'll give it credit that it seems to be a bit more colourful, and the lions seem to have some more expression on them but. Why are people so scared of embracing animation? What's with this insistence on doing "live action" realism? There's nothing wrong with just doing an animated film and embracing it as a medium
animated films are more expensive for them to make, its why Disney refuses to do it now and stick to live-action or CG instead... you'd think the multi billion dollar company would have money to spare but... hey ho I guess not.
Adendum that 2D animation is only "more expensive" cuz the animators are unionized. It's not more expensive so much that they don't think people should be paid fairly for their craft - hence 3D animators being treated like shit during productions.
@@taloscal It's not more expensive to make at ALL. Please compare the actual budgets of these movies to the 2d movies they used to make, it's a lie. The real reason is that 2d animators are unionized and they can't exploit them, nothing else
@@pancakes8670For my taste, it had a bit too much magic. As in, actual Magic: Scar getting revived as a Volcano Monster, Kion making rocks float with his roar..... The Lion King had stuff like Mufasa speaking through the clouds and Rafiki communicating with the wind, but that was more....spiritual stuff.
I’m so glad someone else hated Timon and Pumbaa. I couldn’t stand how much they shattered the fourth wall in a movie franchise dedicated to looking photorealisic and immersive. I think Timon said something about getting “letters from legal” and “he’s gonna launch a fragrance soon” and I almost left the theater.
I feel a lot of people really either hate them or love them . And those who do (Nostalgia critic) even tend like them where they movie is built around them
I think the big problem with the Timon and Pumba duo is they completely erased Pumba. Timon was the narcissist that loved to be the center of attention were as Pumba knew that but let him have his way most of the time because Timon accepted him. Pumba was the zin of the duo. With the live action version Pumba is Timon as well so it comes off like they are competing to get laughs at an amateur comedy night the whole time but it’s not landing.
@@kam_is_too_cute you’re so right! I loved LK 1 1/2 but they butchered this version. It felt like they kept trying to remind us, “remember how much you loved these two characters? Remember???”
I saw the original Lion King (animated, I'm old) twice before it hit the theaters. At the time, I worked at a laser tag joint with a theater around the corner. We had this symbiotic relationship. We gave free laser tag games, and we got to see movies early. Lion King was one of the first films we all got to see. We also got to see Ed Wood, Pulp Fiction, and Mars Attacks early. I miss those times.
@captainmidnight I wrote a paper on Ed Wood for my film class in college. I got a good grade, but I got called out because their was no arc. Ed just goes... My teacher was a huge Joseph Campbell fan. And in hindsight, my teacher wasn't wrong.
As soon as I heard in the trailer that they made Mufasa an orphan, I disregarded this movie as non-canon. In "The Lion King: A Tale of Two Brothers" it explains how Taka got his Scar. He was trying to make Mufasa look bad by antagonizing a cape buffalo, but ended up getting attacked by its' herd, thus receiving his scar. Once healed, his father told him that the scar would serve as a reminder for his recklessness and mistakes and that he should rid himself of his anger. Taka relented and asked to go by Scar from then on. This is also the reason why Zazu is Mufasa's "eyes and ears" of the Pride Lands, as their father appointed Zazu's mother, Zuzu, as his majordomo and it became tradition for their hornbill family to be stewards to the kings of the pride lands. They really sat on this book and the series it came from, they had these at their disposal. The fact that Scar's first attempt to harm Mufasa was not actually as adults in the first movie but rather when they were kids, and by the same type of animal too, made sense and wrapped things up as an origin point. This movie is so non-canonical to me, it's an unfunny joke that makes no sense. Why would Ahadi and Uru name their biological son "Garbage" and make an orphan their next heir? Why would Scar have said he got the "shallow end of the gene pool" when it came to brute strength in reference to Mufasa? These things do not make sense to those that grew up consuming Disney stories at their maximum and remember what was already established. We have extensive Lion King family trees and they're really expecting us to just snip Mufasa's whole branch like that. Lol, fat chance.
Most valid criticism I've read so far although takas parents told mufasa to protect taka. They didn't really choose mufasa although it was obvious mufasa was braver and stronger at that point. That's insane of them to just make mufasa an orphan in the first place and change the story though
This movie feels like one of those matpat videos. Not enough research on the source material. Throwing around random stories together that doesn't make sense. And all and all just terrible pieces of bad entertainment!!
mufasa retcons the 2019 film itself, when Zazu flies to Mufasa after the interaction with the hyenas, he says to be easy on Simba since he is a cub and remembers when Mufasa was a cub. i know this is probably a nitpick but its just another case of all those details said by the characters getting swept under the rug and forgotten about.
not a nitpick when the entire first series was intending them to be brothers, and the 2019 film was made with the intentions of copying the first series which was intending them to be brothers
from the clips ive seen on the internet.... THE. CAMERA. NEVER. STOPS. MOVING. It's always pivoting around, zooming like its on a track, making swooping shots. it just always....moves... why?!
I`ve said this once and I'll say it again. That Disney has lost it`s ability to tell a story. This story contradicts the story of king and succession that was laid out before in the original. If you are going to tell a prequel story then the prequel can`t lead to different conclusions. Such as Mufasa and Scar were blood brothers in the original. Mufasa was king because he was first born then Simba became king because he was of Mufasa's bloodline. Thus making Scar further down for the throne. That is why Simba needed to be killed or out of the picture so Scar could ascend to the throne. This one takes all that out and makes maybe a good story in what they told but, it completely removes the reason as to why Simba was going to be king. Because any one can be king by the standards of this new story. So my criticism of the movie is if you are making a prequel make it so both stories of past and present go hand and hand. Else wise the prequel story doesn't work.
I think "It looks expensive- and Im sure it was- but narratively there isnt much meat on the bones here" is the perfect description of how Disney feels recently Excellent video
I think the craziest thing about this is the fact that there are officially Lion King Stories out there telling you exactly what Mufasa's and Scar's origin was and that Scar was originally called Taka. So the fact that they had that knowledge clearly put a nod to it in here but still changed it to the exact thing Scar's OG name was is crazy.
I hate these "realistic" CGI remakes for a big reason: colors. I was paused at the moment in this video...I guess where Scar feels betrayed by Mufasa? I don't fucking know, it was around 9:51. Anyways, I looked at that, and without even looking at any pictures, thought back to the OG Lion King, where Scar says "Precisely" to the hyenas for an example in my head. You look at this video here, what do you see? You can see he's maybe coming out of a cave, the sun is in his face or it's night and there's a full moon, but his expression in that split second is like...I thought it was hope, but I NEEDED the video to play a bit to find out it was realization, and then his face went to betrayal. Right as soon as Scar says precisely in the OG movie, the green color taking over the background tells you there's evil afoot. The fact the green is blending with Scar's entire color palette tells you it's him that's evil, not that he's, like, walking into it or trying to coerce it or anything. His cheeky, big smile, mixed with the green, and his teeth being sharply expressed, tell you he's being menacing, and he's possibly concocting a plan (which he is). And the fact the green background make his green eyes pop even more, rather than blend in, also tells you he's the mastermind behind whatever is going to happen. His paw being under his chin says he's arrogant and thinks too high of himself, looks at himself as royalty already. But again, mixed with the green, tells us that something or someone is in his way, and he needs to expel the obstacle, and not in a heroic way. The fuck do you get from the CGI bullshit? Absolutely nothing from a still. Because REAL LIFE does not accentuate an event unless it just happens to. Your parent can die on a bright, sunny, but still brilliant and cool day that would be perfect otherwise. The top of Mt. Kilimanjaro is BREATHTAKING, figuratively and literally, but a picture of it doesn't make you feel like death is knocking at your door, it makes you full of awe and wonder. Because photographers plan it that way. And you can have started driving home from your own birthday party a friend set up, get into a car accident, and wind up needing surgery to amputate your legs, but you get into the hospital and you hear laughter everywhere. It could be a joyous time, and usually that's exactly what it is, but for Hollywood, it's someone's insecurities creeping into their head, the people laughing at them, and the colors will suddenly darken. In real life if this happens at this exact moment, it's because night's starting to turn, or there's clouds blotting out the sun, in Hollywood, it's because this person's beginning to spiral into negative thoughts, and everything goes bright again when someone walking in snaps them out of it. By trying to be too real, disney has sapped all of the fun, all of the creativity, all of the wonder out of these remakes, and it makes them boring, dull, and stuff no sane person wants to watch. We have the 2D animated movies, where color was remembered, where it always meant something because it's ALL fantasy in a sense, and where the whimsy and menace and heroism can be felt IN A SINGLE FRAME because people knew what to do back then, how to direct back then. You take the music and speech out of these two lion kings, and there's NOTHING there. You take the music, the singing, the sound in total out of the original? You can still tell exactly what's going on. We need vibrancy disney. Bring it back.
I agree with everything you said, except it isn't the CGIs fault... It isn't real, nothing you're seeing is real, it's all been created in exactly the same way that the painted animation was so you COULD create all those things with CGI as well (just look at Shrek for an example) it's not the CGI, it's their artistic choice that's the issue
@@dundeeangel2496 i think what they meant is the fact disney is pushing for realism in their CGI and not letting the CGI be colorful and expressive and fun and whimsical is what's killing these films and i agree- even as a kid when they would release gray live action CGI stuff i hated it, and always preferred the bright colorful and expressive cartoons... the last time disney made a decent live action remake was beauty and the beast, maybe maleficent, and like alice in wonderland- those are the only 3 movies where the live action/CGI and reworking of the story WORKED but in all of them they were still colorful and fun and magical and stylized and artistic and not fucking dark and drab and realistic like today's garbage- also alice in wonderland had tim burton and johnny depp and you just cannot go wrong with those two ever-
there's poetic irony in a series that ditched the cartoony aspect to go realistic getting beaten by the series that tried to do realistic, failed, and went cartoony instead
On one hand, I'm glad they aren't doing straight-up remakes of classics and are trying to create original stories. On the other hand, I can't remember the last time Disney made a good, original movie since Encanto.
in the original after Mufasa scolds Simba for going to the elephant graveyard, Mufasa says to Simba that he wants to tell him something that his father told him, explaining that the great kings of the past are watching down on him. To me it implies that Mufasas family have been monarchs for a very long time and he was close to his father. Not that he lost his father, was adopted and usurped the throne. Also, in the Lion King 2, Kiara had no brother. She was going to be queen.
@@ssssnnnnzzzzFirst WB, later Sony, now Disney. Will Sonic and Paramount be ready to face Mario with Universal? 👀 (Or against Universal with Nolan, Sonic vs Odyssey: Sonidyssey)
I can't imagine that the parents who felt ripped off by Moana 2 were going to spend more money on a clearly subpar product so soon. Especially after the recent passing of James Earl Jones, when everyone has his original performance in the best Lion King fresh in their minds.
Disney, pre-‘Lion King’: “Eh, this isn’t going to be as great as ‘Pocahontas’, let the B-Team handle it”. Disney, post-‘Lion King’: “Holy sh*t, this is a success! Let’s milk this baby as much as we can!”. Disney, thirty years later: “…yep, still milking it. 🤷🏻♂“.
And now Lion King (at least the original, non-butchered version) is known as one of Disney's greatest movies of all time, while Pocahontas is now known as that one racist Disney princess movie.
@@johndreibelbis1354 They were both made around the same time. Pocahontas was intended to be the main star of the Disney Renaissance while Lion King was just the supplementary movie to hold people over.
Lion King= Hamlet Lion King 1 1/2=Rosencrantz and Guildenstien are Dead Lion King 2= Romeo and Juliet This shouldn't be about Mufasa this shouldve been Scar= Richard III. Scar could have been the orphan with no name and already had the scar. He couldve just done Shakespeare villain monologues. Would've been fun at least lol.
@@chasehedges6775 Last time I checked, in the original Lion King, (Not the CGI version) It was actually Scar who was the adopted child. Either that, or he was planned to be adopted before a rewrite. And that always made the most sense to me. Kinda like how Jafar in either version of Aladdin wanted to be Sultan, but couldn't since he wasn't blood related. So making Mufasa the adopted one makes zero sense. Disney really is losing their touch. Heck, they probs been out of touch for much longer.
The "king of the past" scene is the explicit one which was reconned by this story. The light touches scene is a safe call out too. And in spirit, it seems like the story goes against the "divine right of kings" which the scene of the rains coming when Simba takes his rightful place. If his dad was the first king of his line, that's a much weaker idea.
So you know how in the first movie, when Mufasa is trying to scale up the mountain and Scar uses his claws to stab into Mufasa's paws and makes sure to look into Mufasa's eyes as he murders him? I love how this movie used that same move not once but TWICE, only this time he was saving Mufasa's life. It's supposed to twist the knife and make you remember that the next time he does it, he's flinging Mufasa off a cliff to his death, but it just really highlights how soulless this whole thing is (and how it picks and chooses what "matters" from the animated one, since they made sure to keep that but threw out a ton of other stuff). Also, the music sucked.
I do think it was at least a little more ambitious to do this story than just do a shot for shot remake of Simba's Pride. Even if it ultimately didn't work.
they couldn't cuz incest (perceived despite it being obviously not real) and disney made another continuity error awhile ago when they created lion guard- this was them trying to fix that issue by presenting another issue so they can keep the lion guard IP since it was so popular back then- mufasa is them setting up to do a simba's pride remake- they just failed miserably in doing so
WAIT- So they’re saying that Mufasa and Scar are not ACTUAL brothers?! Well, that just f*cks with just about everything, now doesn’t it? Not just is the brother betrayal storyline a lot weaker now but a lot of key things in the Lion King mirrored real life animal kingdoms and many fans appreciated that. For instance, in the original film, it made perfect sense for two brothers in the wild to stick together and form a coalition before one betrays the other because that’s what happens in real life a lot of time. It was neat to see the film reflect the wild in impactful, deep ways. The powerful messages about brotherhood and family have also been pissed on by this movie. And to add insult to injury, now Scar isn’t even Simba’s true uncle! Man, Disney sucks!
@@KnightEclipser One, I didn’t say that. And two, you are completely missing the POINT and the connections I pointed out in my comment about the real animal kingdom and how fans greatly appreciated the deep, genius parallels made between the original movie and real life. Also, just because many appreciate that the film emphasized the importance of blood and family, doesn’t mean we are rejecting adopted kids! 😂 Give me a break. You’re being ridiculous. It’s like me being upset that a movie was remade and ruined a message about being a good father by replacing him with a mom, and then you tell me that it means I don’t appreciate moms or accept that they can raise kids just as well! Me saying the deep messages about blood and family have been ruined doesn’t mean I don’t think families can be built in other ways or in even stories about adoptive or extended families that AREN’T The Lion King.
Actually in lion prides, brother lions often "rule" a pride together. It's the outside lion males who go rogue and try to kill the cubs they aren't related to
And it is just a straight up retcon. In the beginning of the Lion King, after Mufasa scolds Scar and gets in his face saying "is that a challenge?", Scar comments on it by stating that while he inherited intelligence, when it comes to strength he got "the small end of the gene pool" compared to Mufasa. Scar literally states they are blood related.
The song that especially didn’t sit well with me was “Bye Bye” for a villain that supposed to be intimidating and a general threat it doesn’t work well when it’s saying “I make you go bye bye.” Like what?
Some exec: "Guys, I just saw this really scary movie called 'The Bye Bye Man'! Modern audiences think someone saying 'bye bye' is really scary! Put a 'bye bye' song into this movie!" "Sir, I don't think that will work because..." "Do it, or you're going bye bye!"
That song made me cringe the entire time while it was on-screen at the theater. It sounded like such a weird, childish song for a villain who is supposed to be intimidating.
I know dude.. I swear they could've picked any other SLIGHTLY intimidating phrase and it'd be .. slightly less mid? "bye bye" of all things? I'd walk out of the theater.
Do you want to know what movie, in my opinion, did a better job of being an origin story for a well-known hero, and his former friend turned arch nemesis? Transformers One
Ahhh I agree 100% the turn of taka felt unrealistic considering how close the two were. Or maybe not unrealistic, but I think the pieces were laid out but not hammered as well together as they could’ve been
lmao Are you serious? Scar gets upset that a girl he likes prefers Mufasa, and feels that teaming up with his father’s murderer to kill Mufasa is the correct course of action? WTF is that writing?
It says a lot about writers when they back themselves into a corner and instead of pausing and looking back to see what they can fix, they just put a bandaid on it and carry on like nothing is wrong. And they expect the audience to be stupid enough to be okay with that (and I'm afraid it's working)
@@Waffletigercat Scar essentially gets the Tai Lung treatment. Not only is he gasses up to be the king, he is also stated by almost everyone he meets to be the king. Mufasa hypes Scar up for Zarabi, and to be his wingman, just for Mufasa to get Zarabi instead. Not only that, but Zarabi explicitly states how Mufasa is supposed to be a king, and not Scar. And then, it's revealed that Rafiki ALSO views Musafa as his brother, and Mufasa accepts, which makes Scar's one special thing, brotherhood, lost. Tldr: Mufasa took everything away from Scar
@ That still doesn’t sound like it makes colluding with the creatures that killed your entire blood family and drove you out of your homeland to be a reasonable choice.
People love the OG Timon and Pumba. People hate Seth Pumba and Whathisface-Mon. They're both awful looking and defeat the purpose they had from the original animated versions, that they served as honest comic relief but also gave Simba bad advice on running away from his responsibilities and fears. These you really hope someone poaches them.
My local (non American) Cinemas are really pushing Mufasa, they are only going to air Sonic 3 on the 25th and only show again in 2 of January. Meanwhile Mufasa is on before and after today. I am glad that despite the shilling, Sonic is winning.
YMS really made a giang video about how kimba and the lion king arent comparable just for disney to go "yea were putting a white lion as a villain" huh
Okay, I've kind of ignored the whole live action lion king and just clicked this out of curiosity. How the HELL are people not offput by the uncannyness of the human mouth movements and jumpy body language and weightless look of this animation? Nothing actually moves like that, what's the point?
Can't wait for Disney to learn nothing from this and we do this all over again with some other unwanted live action premake-quel like how genie ended up in the bottle starring jaden smith as a young will smith's genie
This is the consequences of people still paying to see these live action remakes. Majority of them are Disney Adults and blindly being loyal to Disney. I even got into a scuffle with one of them in the comments at the mere mention of Sonic 3
Disney managed to turn one of the best villains of all time into a massive simp, who turns evil because his brother took Sarabi from him even though he only knew her for a day or so.
I don't consider it canon unless it's a hand drawn, traditionally animated movie like the original. I see the live action movies as having a separate cinematic universe.
Especially considering the fact most characters guilty of that trope have something less embarrassing to be jealous of. For example why wasn’t Scar more jealous of Mufasa taking his place in the pride.
Scar in the first classic animated version was clearly meant to be just a pure evil villain, everything about how he's animated to his scenes and his motives points to that. I agree with you. Their gonna pull the "oh we're giving the evil villain a sympathetic story!! you have to be sorry and sad about this and support this cashgrab now!!" so many times.
Yeah, I don't really understand the manic obsession with realism that leads a studio to turn the original animated film into--- whatever the hell these things are. It's just bizarre, especially given Disney's history. It almost feels wilfully dismissive of their own identity. That can't be the intent, but I don't understand what it might be.
I semi disagree. Live action animals talking can be appealing, the Babe movies an example. I say semi because it only works when its real animals with minimal special effects, not full body CGI.
@@nebiatyifru4045 i get what u mean. But i guess when it's just a novelty in the story or an extraordinary event (although I don't like it very much either). In this case where it's "normal" it creeps me out 🤣
@@nahuel IIRC, the first 101 Dalmatians live-action duology (the one with Glenn Close Cruella) avoids this by making the dogs not speak, which fits since in the original (as well as Patch's London Adventure), animals can understand humans, but not the other way around.
"Let me tell you something my father told me: 'Look at the stars. The great kings of the past look down on us from those stars. So whenever you feel alone, just remember that those kings will always be there to guide you, and so will I.'" is some version of this line in the movie at least?
Mufasa barely even acknowledges his father at all during the movie. The most they do when he finally gets home and finds his biological mom is ask "is dad..?" And she kinda just nods and they never mention him again. Even though he literally died saving him.
Taka... They left out his original name in The Lion Guard, so I'd hoped they were considering getting rid of that concept from the NO LONGER OFFICIAL book series in favor of a better name. But nope. They bring back the concept that he was named "garbage" from the start. Not to mention all of this flies in the face of the backstory they'd built up in The Lion Guard... Guess it's an alternate reality?
It wouldn’t have been crap then cus animation takes a lot more time and money and Disney wouldn’t invest it unless they made sure the plot was up to snuff. This isn’t that Disney anymore. It’s “we want quick cash and we do not support artists with good stories”. Just look at Owl House. They got rid of an extremely popular series for no reason. Cus they decided it wasn’t going to be profitable despite it being a cash cow.
All of disneys best movies have been adaptations of earlier works, with their most notable being an adaptation of Shakespeare’s hamlet. Why then, doesn’t Disney try to adapt another Shakespeare tragedy in animated form? Or create an adaptation of another Grimm fairytale? Why do they put their own previous work on a higher pedestal than classics like these? A new rendition of Othello could be amazing, for instance.
You'd think that after Disney adapted many fairy tales (while trying to steal them from their countries through patent trolling), they would've adapted the second most iconic fairy tale Little Red Riding Hood. Disney a few years ago would've made an amazing adaptation of that but not in their current state. Dreamworks certainly can't do it because they've made 4 main Shrek films and they did absolutely nothing with her.
Are you planning on seeing Mufasa?
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Answer: 300000 percent NO.
Negative on seeing it 🤣
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The biggest problem for me is that they tried to do the semi live action but really just a bunch of cgi route with this like hello the original lion king is one of your most successful and beloved ANIMATED movies and if the mufasa story was something they actually cared about they should have made it more in the style of the original it is really dumb they went like with the style of the remake when will Disney learn like it should be something so easy for Disney to do hire decent animators to do the work needed to make a decent movie but no they had to go the dull route and make a really terrible looking movie that probably cost way too much to produce rather than actually animating it where it would probably cost less and make them more money what a joke
Skipping it. Don't give more money to tyrant Disney.
once again, mufasa has been defeated by some fast-running animals
Guess he didn't live and learn.
It’s the circle of life
I just pictured Mufasa getting ran over by two hedgehogs on meth, thank you
@@therealgmhere5988he lost his grip while hanging on the edge of tomorrow
Disney didn't do enough to be prepared.
1994: Mufasa is Scars older brother, therefore he's next in line to be king
2024: *Mufasa is an usurper*
A false idol
Dont worry, this movie never happened!
I refuse to watch it! Might as well be a fan film because as far as Im concerned, NONE of this is canon!
The 2020s needs to stop violating my childhood! 😭
that is 100% my biggest beef with it. it retcons the story and suddenly you're like "well if this is true, I get why Scar would be pissed" but it's not. it's just shitty storytelling.
@@laurendiane1244 EXACTLY!!!
A better Lion King prequel could focus on a Cain and Abel-style story between Scar and Mufasa, showing how their relationship was shaped by their father’s favoritism. The father favors Mufasa, the physically strong and charismatic heir, while Scar struggles to measure up and earn his approval. Scar’s jealousy grows even more when Mufasa wins over Sarabi, who Scar secretly admires. Around the middle of the movie, Mufasa becomes king, and Scar tries to sabotage his reign multiple times but always fails. The film ends with Simba’s presentation, where it’s revealed that Scar was there, watching from the shadows. His sadness turns into anger, setting up the events of the original movie.
See how I made a better plot in like 5 minutes lol? 🤣
like literally there were books they made that actually already ta;lked about scar and mufasas past why did they retcon
Nothing drains the majesty and mystique of a rock formation like Pride Rock like finding out it was formed in less than afternoon and within the life times of the supporting characters
so true
Amen
It's just a useless rock, and pride comes before a fall.
@@Elwood128Two useless statements in one reply. What will he do next?
I almost CACKLED when the part where mufasa and Simba roar from just FALLS from the mountain. It's so funny for no reason 😅😅
The fact they literally crap on Mufasa's "kings of old" dialogue is enough to make it awful, but not only that, making Mufasa THE actual usurper of the throne is disgusting.
Bro i feel like whatever the internet dislikes they call it “disgusting” 😂
lion king? more like lyin' king! 🦁
He didn't usurp anything. Taka's pride is dead, why would he be entitled to rule the new one?
Yep didnt even think about that part..
Im still on the part where it cleary implies there blood brother not step brothers
Just like how in the lion guard, Mufasa gave Scar the name scar as a mean nickname despite the matter getting bitten by a venomous snake
I liked how this movie essentially took the canon of Simba coming from a long line of great kings of the past as Mufasa said and just completely destroyed it to make a soulless prequel story.
I was waiting for his parents to appear and be like, but mufasa, you are royalty!
@@supermodestmouse i dont get why everyone is so negative about the movie, i enjoyed it very much honestly
@@royallyrain glad you liked it.
For me, it comes off as a bad cash grab that tries to pull elements from the original which was an amazing movie with a good story and compelling characters. No one really asked for this movie. And everything that made the first movie good is done worse here. The brother song is a rip off of can't wait to be king. Bye bye is a really poor version of be prepared. The elephant stampede is a rip off of the one that killed mufasa. In fact they use it twice when they do the fast zoom in on mufasas face when the flash flood happens. Same as when Simba sees the stampede. My biggest gripe though is why scar so easily capitulates to the bad lions after he literally murdered his whole family and wants to murder him. It felt really forced to me. And then the white lions aren't actually beaten by mufasa and the other animals. The earth literally opens up and eats them and the rock squashes the bad lion...just like in land before time.
In trying to explain things in the first movie, they make more plot holes like the one atraina said: Mufasa is not royalty in this movie. He is made king after rallying the other animals into...doing whatever to defeat the white lions. Then in the original, he tells Simba he comes from a long line of great kings. Except he doesn't. Scar is the royal bloodline. So I was expecting his parents to show up in the great valley and tell mufasa he was royalty all along to try to fill said plot hole. But they didn't. So....long story short, Simba is not from long line of great kings.
@@royallyrain I agree. It is a decent movie with amazing visuals. Story is alright and geared more towards kids but not bad at all.
@@supermodestmouse I understand people are upset because the story "was changed" mainly how he's not nobility and how Taka was always rightful king. To anyone, it's really weird and shocking. I'm not new to TLK though, as many I grew up on it, I was 6 when I first watched it and now I'm 36. I even read the books back then and before anyone says they're not canon yes I know, you don't need to tell me but they're still Disney property and the books are where Taka's name came from and now they used it in Mufasa, so maybe the books can be considered semi-canon now.
But I'm just trying to see it in a way like, TLK's story was always changing, as a 6 year old you're not going to understand what canon means or even is, you're just a kid watching/reading this story and our canon was that Simba had a son named Kopa and then he's nowhere to be seen as it was changed to Kiara, then Kion comes along almost 2 decades later. I see TLK as an everchanging and growing story to have fun with. I'm also an artist so I grew up following other artists who made their own headcanons and "what if?'s and mixing and matching the movie canon with the books and it was really fun. So I suppose that's why I'm not so upset, it's another AU, another canon made to the story and I think that's alright.
I like how literally every time Sonic comes with a new movie, he destroys the movies we don't want in the box office.
If there's a bad Non Spider-Man Sony thing coming up against it around when 4 is out, it's gonna be great
Hey, remember back in the day when fans griped about the original character design, and they all bitched so hard that the filmmakers stalled the initial release date just to update the character model?
A jolly-good time, that was…
Sonic destroyed Bird Of Prey in 2020
Sonic destroyed Morbius in 2022
And now Shadow has dethroned Mufasa in 2024
EDIT: ALRIGHT! I’ve seen your comments about Birds of Prey, let me explain. After BOP bombed at the box office, Birds of Prey fans were trying to sabotage Sonic Movie 1 by saying a lot of nasty things about the movie and to go see BOP instead, keep in mind this was before Sonic 1 released in theaters, and majority of those BOP fans were from Twitter. Regardless, Sonic 1 had the upper hand regarding box office numbers. I might see BOP one day to judge it for myself, but the only thing I knew about BOP was their fans trying to hijack Sonic 1.
The character arc the sonic movies got from the first trailer to the success of the trilogies is gonna get thaught at film publicity schools
@@JonathanGaetaAll Hail Shadow
Mufasa: "You’re unskilled,untrained, and unworthy."
Sonic 3: "You forgot one. Unstoppable!"
Undefeatable.
On a tangentially related note, it's wild how Shadow's game went from near universally panned in 2005 to me unironically excited to hopefully see Black Doom in a movie.
unfuckwithable
I felt so alone as a kid when all of my friends were saying that shadow the hedgehog game was bad, but i actually really liked it T.T
The multiple endings and paths were the selling point for me
@@gregvs.theworld451 To be fair though, most of what Shadow 05 does wrong is the gameplay, and the way the game was structured.
Mufasa got killed again but this time by Shadow the Hedgehog.
"Long live the king"
"All hail Shadow"
As befits the Ultimate Lifeform.
@@cinemaarts8795yesss
Where’s that DAMN fourth chaos emerald?
in the original Lion King, it wasn't just implied that Mufasa was king because he was Scar's older brother, so therefore next in line, but Scar out right makes a snide remark about it in that first scenes after Simba's ceremony in the very beginning when Mufasa gives Scar a stern talking to for not attending. and if you were really into the Lion King there were stories about Scar and Mufasa's past, that outright states they were non-adopted siblings, and Mufasa was the older one who was next in line to be king. I haven't seen this new film, but I already was soured on it when I heard about this retcon of Mufasa being adopted.
Honestly I have mixed feeling with the fact that Mufasa is adopted brother because it makes sense to avoid incest plotline like real life lion pride but at the same time it completely destroyed the whole narrative of Lion King and I'm not even a hardcore fan; still I think it sucks & I felt 'betrayed'.
Scar getting the scar from an act of benevolence, rather than being spared from a failed previous coup against Mufasa also feels wrong.
Ok but like, they're still brothers, so the betrayal is still there
Wait wasnt Mufasa actually the younger Brother and Scar got Salty because their Parents put the Younger One on the Throne? Could have sworn...
No@@Kairos_Akuma
Scar was EXPLICITLY stated to be Mufasa's GENETIC SIBLING. Scar even states, "As far as brains go, I got the lion's share, but when it comes to brute strength, I'm afraid I'm at the shallow end of the gene pool."
Why would he have said that if he KNEW he had no relation to Mufasa whatsoever? The prequel is NON-CANONICAL!! Disregard it completely!
The way I see it, their father, Ahadi, kinda looked like Scar but his body type would be similar to Mufasa.
Nah, I liked it.
I guess they don't want some weird royal incest stuff later on with lion king, lion king 2 (kovu is adopted) and Lion king 3
The Lion King is a retelling of Hamlet and is about the brother usurping the king
Disregard it because it's non-canonical or disregard it because you guys think nobody liked it? I thought it was a fun movie, never once did I watch it thinking my understanding of the original would be changed because it wasn't supposed to
If you really need a prequel of two brothers becoming enemies, just watch Transformers One
KEEP SPITTING!!!!!
TFONE THE GOATTTTT
Oh my God that movie is fucking tripping!!!! Best Transformers I’ve seen maybe ever. Better than the original ‘86 classic. Successfully portrays Megatron as a tragic figure.
It was a really good movie. Really hoping for a sequel since marketing dropped the ball
RISE UP!!
Now if you want to see an actual good version of that within the same IP, go watch Transformers Prime and it’s series closing movie
Disney is determined to just grind down every franchise they own down to the bone and make us actively hate everything we loved growing up.
its not just Disney, literally every new thing that comes out is in an attempt to become the next big franchiese. Its just sad that now, a lot of CEO from other studios are making it a popular idea to completely phase out true animated productions in favor for more celeb focused releases.
That guy who made all those videos about live action Disney movies that were a "failed next big thing" is going to be awfully busy soon.
Blame Bob Iger, the man's a fool.
@@JoshTrager-j9gThat's not the first adjective that comes to mind.
Evil can't create, it can only corrupt.
Still remember last year, Adam Sandlers barely advertised LEO managed to beat Disney's 100th anniversary Wish.
Wait Wish was Disneys 100th anniversary movie? Oh my god, thats actually depressing it was meant to mean that much.
@@BoHorn thats like.... seriously the most known fact about the movie... they legit advertised it that way
@@sarahhenry3607mb, i never saw any ads or anything for it. Ive seen some reviews about it but probs forgot if they mentioned it. Either way its a sobering reminder of how the charm and magic is kinda lost lately.
The worst part about Wish is that it had the elements of classic Disney princess movies, but then decided to change it.
@@sarahhenry3607I didn't hear about it until after it was released so depends on your media diet. All I saw was an extremely mid-looking Disney film and ignored it. Then when I saw the concept art of the Star-Boy they cut from the movie I became angry at it instead of forgetting about it.
6:45 This 100%. The prequel botched it so bad. The circle of life is presented like its a deep law of nature, not just between the lions, but shared by all living creatures. Almost like a religion, passed down and shared by all animals, and his position as king isn’t a reward, its a responsibility, just as Mufasa’s father told him, right?
Nope, Mufasa just freestyled it on the fly according to the prequel lol
A backstory like that could work in a different story with different themes, but for Lion King? Yikes.
Ever since the trailer came out I've been thinking about other ways they could have written this story to make it work with what we're told about Mufasa and Scar in the first movie.
Mufasa and Scar should have been biological brothers, and they should have been born in a litter of 3 cubs. Mufasa being the first born and immediate heir to the throne, a middle cub and Scar as the runt. Scar struggles and is jealous of his brothers, but is cunning from an early age. As cubs they are playing he slyly creates an "accident" that gets the middle cub killed and gives him his Scar in the process. This shows he was always the bad guy and would add more weight to the look of realisation in Mufasa's eyes when Scar betrays him and throws him off the cliff. Their parents (rightfully) blame Taka for the death of the middle cub, and thus refer to him as Scar as a reminder that they don't forgive him for not being the one that died. This adds to his resentment and explains why he is so hellbent on getting rid of Mufasa.
And this is again why I like the lion guard a lot. It really expands and builds on the lore from the old animated movies.^^
I’m not justifying the “creative decision” they made regarding this storyline - it seems like the main concern with this and the 2019 version was making it “more realistic” to nature. In real life, young adolescent male lions are exiled from their prides by the adult male (there can only be one male - to reduce any competition for mating privileges with females in the pride). If the exiled males survive into adulthood, they’ll come back or find another lion pride and fight the dominant male to the death or until the leader submits.
So I see what they were going for with this storyline, but I think most people would agree that the Lion King and its lore don’t NEED to be realistic to nature. We as humans have very different rules for our societies; it feels like the emotional impact of the original 2D movies is far greater than the recent “live action” saga because these characters were put into scenarios that we as humans would relate and connect to. Long story short, Disney putting these characters into “more realistic” scenarios just made the storyline SUCK.
SOMEONE SAID BETWEEN THE LIONS
I am sick and tired of that whole "Oh he's not actually evil, he's missunderstood." No Scar is not missunderstood, he's a jealous, selfish and narcissistic character, not hesitating to kill his own brother and nephew to be in power.
So what's next Disney ? Trying to give judge Claude Frollo a sympathetic backstory ?
honestly the musical does do this (quasi is jehan frollo's bastard child and Claude's racism/"faith" directly lead to the death of jehan
the thing is that it works because it isn't really played for sympathy and doesn't justify Claude's actions-rather, it contextualizes his later atrocities
Frollos a bad example, he's more sympathetic in the original book.
@andrew23456able
That's because Frollo in the book is different and the musical attempts to make it more book like
@l.n.3372 i know-my point is that its not INHERENTLY a bad thing, Disney just sucks at it.
@andrew23456able
Well which musical are you referring to here? The French musical Notre Dame de Paris? Or the musical stage adaptation of the Disney movie that went to Papermill Playhouse?
I've seen both versions, read the book, and I love the Disney movie. So I'd be happy to discuss any of them.
Mufasa’s an orphan and Scar’s motivation is…a stolen girl? What’s the goal here? Why change what was already perfectly explained?
Keep in mind that this is a story as told by Rafiki, not an actual visit into the past.
They didnt want to paint mufasa as a jerk that made fun of his brother. By having aa scar
That's like the most cliche way they could do it lol
@@AaaaNinja Bro, I really don't think someone like Rafiki would lie about something like this. Unless he really was that whimsical and decided to just mess with the kids. It's still a dumb premise.
One "no" from a girl with the personality of a boiled potato and mommy issues that came out of absolute nowhere. Yep, that's definitely the same Scar from the 1994 classic. Not bastardized at all.
All this movie did was show us scar had a damn good reason not to like mufasa
"I invited an orphan to stay with my family and then he stole the fucking throne from me."
thats what they want, they want to justify evil
Wait, is Mufasa actually Dio Brando?
Well that's technically how lion pride works where foreign young male lion challenge other lion pride or tribe for leadership position and it makes more sense to avoid incest.
Unfortunately reality & escapism don't go well together because lion king is supposedly hereditary royal title where two biological brothers fought for the throne but it turned out that it's similar to real life lion's tribal hierarchy with few modifications to adjust for family-friendly oriented audiences.
@@rickydinto the lion king was based off hamlet while the lion king 2 was based off romeo and juliet
@@royallyrain
Lion King is made by Disney and I think they want to remake it based on real life lion pride and maybe immigration/adoption issues commentary for social justice points I guess.
Their mother was so loving she named her kid garbage
Taka also means "to want," not just "garbage."
Damn
In many cultures parents give children lame and bad names out of hope that the evil spirits wont want to take them. Considering Scar was constantly whining about being the weak one in the OG, i can imagine him being a runt as a kid. Thats my headcanon anyway, im well aware Disney just gave him lame name because hes the villain
@@FlyingCookie13 kutaka is to want, no? my Swahili is fading istg
@pagenotfound7248
I'm using Google translate, so no promises on complete accuracy. But according to Google translate, you're correct.
Wait, so Scar is called Taka, he awkwardly pursues Sarabi, makes a deal with the villain when she falls for Mufasa, and ends up getting his Scar as a result of saving Mufasa...
Are they actually cribbing from 90's Lion King fanfiction?!
Probably. That’s why I’m not supporting this wild, stupid mess of a prequel. I supported Sonic 3 on release day, and it was such an amazing movie.
They ripped off The Lion King from Tezuka, so why would they think twice about ripping off fan fiction?
@@KasumiKenshirouthis has already been disproven shut up
To be fair, there was a tie-in book series where Scar was called Taka. They didn't just make that up out of nowhere. But the books weren't considered canon, just a basis for fanart and fanfic back in the day.
@@KasumiKenshirou please do literally any research
‘You have a scar so from now on I will call you…’ *standing ovation* peak Hollywood guys
"...Then that's exactly who you'll be: Goldbug!"
"Oh, I thought I would just still be called Bumblebee."
"Quiet, Goldbug!"
Not even. Bro nicknamed himself. Disappointing asf. Mufasa: I don't even know what to call you anymore. Takka: Call me Scar.. Mufasa: Ok, Scar.
Scar...SOLO
Given how this movie is doing at the box office, its crazy that Disney is having to relearn why these types of movies used to only be released straight to video. Just a complete failure of corporate management
How many times does disney have to relearn this lesson
What they should really do is innovate on the structure of a sequel just the same way Rice and Ashman innovated the structure of a kid's animated movie musical back in the 90s
"How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man!"
its not just that. There is a big CEO who is making it their mission to completely phase out animated works in their own studios/getting others to follow his design.
Its a bit of a rabbit hole to get into, but CartoonNetwork is gonna be the first to fall completely.
Sadly Moana 2 is doing well. So they will continue to not learn
The second they decided To retcon the brotherly aspect and they actually tried to give Scar a reason to be sympathized knowing this is the same character who killed his brother and tried to kill his nephew
"There is no evil. All villains are just misunderstood." - Disney probably
i think there are plenty of ways to make an audience sympathize with an obvious villain, disney just doesn’t know how to do any of them
@@littlewyzard what character is a good example of this, in your opinion?
But is it actually a retcon? This is a story being told by Rafiki to Kiara. Not a literal visit backwards in time. Why do people not understand that? When your mom tells a story about what happened to her the other day does she not embellish things? Rafiki is telling the story and he gave himself magical soothsaying powers above what you'd be able to reasonably expect from someone who just performs duties as a shaman.
It’s totally ok to make deeper characters but the way Disney does these things don’t really work. Either you create a sympathetic villain who redeems themselves, or a sympathetic villain who is good but has flaws that you can see so them turning into a villain with those unchecked flaws becomes too much.
Disney CAN do it. But I’d never trust modern Disney for it. Their last good movie was Encanto. And that’s it.
As far as style goes, I'll give it credit that it seems to be a bit more colourful, and the lions seem to have some more expression on them but. Why are people so scared of embracing animation? What's with this insistence on doing "live action" realism? There's nothing wrong with just doing an animated film and embracing it as a medium
animated films are more expensive for them to make, its why Disney refuses to do it now and stick to live-action or CG instead... you'd think the multi billion dollar company would have money to spare but... hey ho I guess not.
Adendum that 2D animation is only "more expensive" cuz the animators are unionized. It's not more expensive so much that they don't think people should be paid fairly for their craft - hence 3D animators being treated like shit during productions.
*they = the corporate overlords
@@taloscal It's not more expensive to make at ALL. Please compare the actual budgets of these movies to the 2d movies they used to make, it's a lie. The real reason is that 2d animators are unionized and they can't exploit them, nothing else
"New and original" Uh oh...I can hear the Lionguard fandom rising back from the dead.
We're here
I used to like that show, still do
Hi, I exist yes. Lion Guard had its moments where it shined. Gotta remember is was in Disney Jr and meant for literal toddlers
@@pancakes8670For my taste, it had a bit too much magic. As in, actual Magic: Scar getting revived as a Volcano Monster, Kion making rocks float with his roar.....
The Lion King had stuff like Mufasa speaking through the clouds and Rafiki communicating with the wind, but that was more....spiritual stuff.
I just got so many flashbacks and about 25% of them are somewhat pleasant. God that was such a fucking weird show.
I’m so glad someone else hated Timon and Pumbaa. I couldn’t stand how much they shattered the fourth wall in a movie franchise dedicated to looking photorealisic and immersive. I think Timon said something about getting “letters from legal” and “he’s gonna launch a fragrance soon” and I almost left the theater.
I feel a lot of people really either hate them or love them . And those who do (Nostalgia critic) even tend like them where they movie is built around them
It was kinda like Lion King 1/2, but i guess they were trying to make it funny but failed
I think the big problem with the Timon and Pumba duo is they completely erased Pumba. Timon was the narcissist that loved to be the center of attention were as Pumba knew that but let him have his way most of the time because Timon accepted him. Pumba was the zin of the duo. With the live action version Pumba is Timon as well so it comes off like they are competing to get laughs at an amateur comedy night the whole time but it’s not landing.
@@kam_is_too_cute you’re so right! I loved LK 1 1/2 but they butchered this version. It felt like they kept trying to remind us, “remember how much you loved these two characters? Remember???”
Completely agree
I saw the original Lion King (animated, I'm old) twice before it hit the theaters.
At the time, I worked at a laser tag joint with a theater around the corner. We had this symbiotic relationship. We gave free laser tag games, and we got to see movies early. Lion King was one of the first films we all got to see.
We also got to see Ed Wood, Pulp Fiction, and Mars Attacks early.
I miss those times.
Oh man. What a lineup. Ed Wood is quietly so amazing.
@@captainmidnightLara Croft Vs Helena Douglas from Kosmic the RUclipsr is Absolutely Epic!😊😮🎉😂❤
@captainmidnight I wrote a paper on Ed Wood for my film class in college.
I got a good grade, but I got called out because their was no arc. Ed just goes...
My teacher was a huge Joseph Campbell fan. And in hindsight, my teacher wasn't wrong.
most people's actual lives don't follow a hero's journey
that sounds fucking awesome
As soon as I heard in the trailer that they made Mufasa an orphan, I disregarded this movie as non-canon.
In "The Lion King: A Tale of Two Brothers" it explains how Taka got his Scar. He was trying to make Mufasa look bad by antagonizing a cape buffalo, but ended up getting attacked by its' herd, thus receiving his scar. Once healed, his father told him that the scar would serve as a reminder for his recklessness and mistakes and that he should rid himself of his anger. Taka relented and asked to go by Scar from then on. This is also the reason why Zazu is Mufasa's "eyes and ears" of the Pride Lands, as their father appointed Zazu's mother, Zuzu, as his majordomo and it became tradition for their hornbill family to be stewards to the kings of the pride lands.
They really sat on this book and the series it came from, they had these at their disposal. The fact that Scar's first attempt to harm Mufasa was not actually as adults in the first movie but rather when they were kids, and by the same type of animal too, made sense and wrapped things up as an origin point.
This movie is so non-canonical to me, it's an unfunny joke that makes no sense. Why would Ahadi and Uru name their biological son "Garbage" and make an orphan their next heir? Why would Scar have said he got the "shallow end of the gene pool" when it came to brute strength in reference to Mufasa? These things do not make sense to those that grew up consuming Disney stories at their maximum and remember what was already established. We have extensive Lion King family trees and they're really expecting us to just snip Mufasa's whole branch like that. Lol, fat chance.
Most valid criticism I've read so far although takas parents told mufasa to protect taka. They didn't really choose mufasa although it was obvious mufasa was braver and stronger at that point. That's insane of them to just make mufasa an orphan in the first place and change the story though
This movie feels like one of those matpat videos. Not enough research on the source material. Throwing around random stories together that doesn't make sense. And all and all just terrible pieces of bad entertainment!!
The stampede was wildebeest. Cape buffalo are a different sort of bovid
Disney: How about a Mufasa prequel?
Everyone: No.
Disney: We are gonna make it anyways 😊. We hope you like it.
Everyones: Thanks. I hate it.
*Sonic 3 enters the chat*
Disney: Why isn't this selling?
Sony: well atleast we could be better then this if we weren’t STUPID
Surprised Pikachu face.
Sonic 3: Let me show you all how to make an entertaining movie.
mufasa retcons the 2019 film itself, when Zazu flies to Mufasa after the interaction with the hyenas, he says to be easy on Simba since he is a cub and remembers when Mufasa was a cub. i know this is probably a nitpick but its just another case of all those details said by the characters getting swept under the rug and forgotten about.
not a nitpick when the entire first series was intending them to be brothers, and the 2019 film was made with the intentions of copying the first series which was intending them to be brothers
from the clips ive seen on the internet.... THE. CAMERA. NEVER. STOPS. MOVING. It's always pivoting around, zooming like its on a track, making swooping shots. it just always....moves... why?!
I don’t know why but I hate it 😭 it’s like that AI coca cola ad
It didn't feel bad during the movie. It's mainly during the songs.
"realism"
MUFASA has joined Birds of Prey and Morbius in the category of movies beaten by Sonic The Hedgehog.
Truly some of the movies ever made.
But what about the Morbillion dollars Morbius made? Oh wait…
@@JonathanGaeta 😂
Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence...
Birds of Prey was actually good tho
I`ve said this once and I'll say it again. That Disney has lost it`s ability to tell a story. This story contradicts the story of king and succession that was laid out before in the original. If you are going to tell a prequel story then the prequel can`t lead to different conclusions. Such as Mufasa and Scar were blood brothers in the original. Mufasa was king because he was first born then Simba became king because he was of Mufasa's bloodline. Thus making Scar further down for the throne. That is why Simba needed to be killed or out of the picture so Scar could ascend to the throne. This one takes all that out and makes maybe a good story in what they told but, it completely removes the reason as to why Simba was going to be king. Because any one can be king by the standards of this new story. So my criticism of the movie is if you are making a prequel make it so both stories of past and present go hand and hand. Else wise the prequel story doesn't work.
Scar: I.. killed..Mufasa!
Shadow: No. WE did.
I think "It looks expensive- and Im sure it was- but narratively there isnt much meat on the bones here" is the perfect description of how Disney feels recently
Excellent video
I think the craziest thing about this is the fact that there are officially Lion King Stories out there telling you exactly what Mufasa's and Scar's origin was and that Scar was originally called Taka. So the fact that they had that knowledge clearly put a nod to it in here but still changed it to the exact thing Scar's OG name was is crazy.
Didnt even read the title, I just saw captain midnight and clicked
Same!
Same. Midnight is the best 👌
That's called trust
Same
Same
Mufasa’s legacy is gonna be “That movie that got dunked on by Sonic 3”
EXACTLY!
Saw Sonic 3 on opening day. Loved it loved it loved it. Jim Carrey was just a cornball of fun throughout.
@@JonathanG94 Jim Carrey is a legend.
its also the movie that retconned mufasa
@@syedshaheermohammad6918Now some people are saying Mufasa is the true villain In the story by making him an orphan, not a fan of this retcon
I guess I'm glad that I saw Sonic 3 instead. A sequel that people actually asked for and was highly anticipated for two years.
Awesome
movie was trash unless your 15 or younger. Mufasa is definitely better idk what ppl are on ab
@@guccigil5782 Rage bait used to be believeable
@@guccigil5782 , factually incorrect. When I went to see Sonic Movie 3 in theaters, most of the people there were older then 15.
@@33pandagameryou know it’s a opinion right? And also TLK fans actually liked MFTLK according to everyone I’ve been. Basically xaptianmodnights v
I hate these "realistic" CGI remakes for a big reason: colors. I was paused at the moment in this video...I guess where Scar feels betrayed by Mufasa? I don't fucking know, it was around 9:51. Anyways, I looked at that, and without even looking at any pictures, thought back to the OG Lion King, where Scar says "Precisely" to the hyenas for an example in my head. You look at this video here, what do you see? You can see he's maybe coming out of a cave, the sun is in his face or it's night and there's a full moon, but his expression in that split second is like...I thought it was hope, but I NEEDED the video to play a bit to find out it was realization, and then his face went to betrayal. Right as soon as Scar says precisely in the OG movie, the green color taking over the background tells you there's evil afoot. The fact the green is blending with Scar's entire color palette tells you it's him that's evil, not that he's, like, walking into it or trying to coerce it or anything. His cheeky, big smile, mixed with the green, and his teeth being sharply expressed, tell you he's being menacing, and he's possibly concocting a plan (which he is). And the fact the green background make his green eyes pop even more, rather than blend in, also tells you he's the mastermind behind whatever is going to happen. His paw being under his chin says he's arrogant and thinks too high of himself, looks at himself as royalty already. But again, mixed with the green, tells us that something or someone is in his way, and he needs to expel the obstacle, and not in a heroic way.
The fuck do you get from the CGI bullshit? Absolutely nothing from a still. Because REAL LIFE does not accentuate an event unless it just happens to. Your parent can die on a bright, sunny, but still brilliant and cool day that would be perfect otherwise. The top of Mt. Kilimanjaro is BREATHTAKING, figuratively and literally, but a picture of it doesn't make you feel like death is knocking at your door, it makes you full of awe and wonder. Because photographers plan it that way. And you can have started driving home from your own birthday party a friend set up, get into a car accident, and wind up needing surgery to amputate your legs, but you get into the hospital and you hear laughter everywhere. It could be a joyous time, and usually that's exactly what it is, but for Hollywood, it's someone's insecurities creeping into their head, the people laughing at them, and the colors will suddenly darken. In real life if this happens at this exact moment, it's because night's starting to turn, or there's clouds blotting out the sun, in Hollywood, it's because this person's beginning to spiral into negative thoughts, and everything goes bright again when someone walking in snaps them out of it.
By trying to be too real, disney has sapped all of the fun, all of the creativity, all of the wonder out of these remakes, and it makes them boring, dull, and stuff no sane person wants to watch. We have the 2D animated movies, where color was remembered, where it always meant something because it's ALL fantasy in a sense, and where the whimsy and menace and heroism can be felt IN A SINGLE FRAME because people knew what to do back then, how to direct back then. You take the music and speech out of these two lion kings, and there's NOTHING there.
You take the music, the singing, the sound in total out of the original? You can still tell exactly what's going on.
We need vibrancy disney. Bring it back.
You're so right, its like they sucked all the art out of it
I agree with everything you said, except it isn't the CGIs fault... It isn't real, nothing you're seeing is real, it's all been created in exactly the same way that the painted animation was so you COULD create all those things with CGI as well (just look at Shrek for an example) it's not the CGI, it's their artistic choice that's the issue
@@dundeeangel2496 i think what they meant is the fact disney is pushing for realism in their CGI and not letting the CGI be colorful and expressive and fun and whimsical is what's killing these films and i agree- even as a kid when they would release gray live action CGI stuff i hated it, and always preferred the bright colorful and expressive cartoons... the last time disney made a decent live action remake was beauty and the beast, maybe maleficent, and like alice in wonderland- those are the only 3 movies where the live action/CGI and reworking of the story WORKED but in all of them they were still colorful and fun and magical and stylized and artistic and not fucking dark and drab and realistic like today's garbage- also alice in wonderland had tim burton and johnny depp and you just cannot go wrong with those two ever-
there's poetic irony in a series that ditched the cartoony aspect to go realistic getting beaten by the series that tried to do realistic, failed, and went cartoony instead
the sonic team listened, disney did not- that's the difference
On one hand, I'm glad they aren't doing straight-up remakes of classics and are trying to create original stories. On the other hand, I can't remember the last time Disney made a good, original movie since Encanto.
Sooooo true.
Encanto was so……wonderful.
Encanto WAS their last good movie. It’s a bit insane.
Strange World wasn't that bad it just had GAY CHARACTER so people mobbed it
@@positivetakes5592 I promise you that's not why people hated it.
in the original after Mufasa scolds Simba for going to the elephant graveyard, Mufasa says to Simba that he wants to tell him something that his father told him, explaining that the great kings of the past are watching down on him. To me it implies that Mufasas family have been monarchs for a very long time and he was close to his father. Not that he lost his father, was adopted and usurped the throne. Also, in the Lion King 2, Kiara had no brother. She was going to be queen.
She'll still be queen because she's older. My guess is the brother is a reference to the Lion Guard show.
Oh, how I miss Kopa...
@ Except they likely had male primogeniture, being lions and all. It's kind of implied that Kovu will rule alongside her.
2020: *Sonic beats Birds of Prey*
2022: *Sonic beats Morbius*
2024: *Sonic beats Midfasa*
SONIC SWEEP!!!
what's next?
@@ssssnnnnzzzzavengers doomsday, the final boss
Edgy the Hedgy sweep
@@ssssnnnnzzzzFirst WB, later Sony, now Disney.
Will Sonic and Paramount be ready to face Mario with Universal? 👀
(Or against Universal with Nolan, Sonic vs Odyssey: Sonidyssey)
Nah Birds of Prey was fun, it just wasn’t marketed to the right demographic
White Lions being the villains is such a dick move, in my opinion. Not because of them being rare, but another reminder of the Simba vs Kimba debate
Agreed
It's also a message of racist white lions against brown ones
@@alexnclips6790no it's not but you keep thinking that
Oof that is pretty petty of Disney
@@alexnclips6790it's not that deep bro
I can't imagine that the parents who felt ripped off by Moana 2 were going to spend more money on a clearly subpar product so soon. Especially after the recent passing of James Earl Jones, when everyone has his original performance in the best Lion King fresh in their minds.
I knew this film would be bad. After a decade of terrible "live action" Disney remakes I know what to expect.
What was bad about it?
True that! 👍
Disney, pre-‘Lion King’: “Eh, this isn’t going to be as great as ‘Pocahontas’, let the B-Team handle it”.
Disney, post-‘Lion King’: “Holy sh*t, this is a success! Let’s milk this baby as much as we can!”.
Disney, thirty years later: “…yep, still milking it. 🤷🏻♂“.
Sooooo true
And now Lion King (at least the original, non-butchered version) is known as one of Disney's greatest movies of all time, while Pocahontas is now known as that one racist Disney princess movie.
Pocahantas(1995) was meh/average.
Pocahontas came out after Lion King though.
@@johndreibelbis1354
They were both made around the same time. Pocahontas was intended to be the main star of the Disney Renaissance while Lion King was just the supplementary movie to hold people over.
0:11 don’t worry we’re not missing anything “important”
Lion King= Hamlet
Lion King 1 1/2=Rosencrantz and Guildenstien are Dead
Lion King 2= Romeo and Juliet
This shouldn't be about Mufasa this shouldve been Scar= Richard III. Scar could have been the orphan with no name and already had the scar. He couldve just done Shakespeare villain monologues. Would've been fun at least lol.
Imagine Lion Titus Andronicus
or scar as macbeth!
Ohhh, Scar doing Shakespeare style villain monologues would have been great!
@@JenamDrag0n He did that in the workprint of The Lion King (the good, animated version).
I would have loved that 😭
Everything the light touches is Mufasa’s kingdom. Looks like a Shadow covered it all.
"What's that shadowy place?"
"That's beyond our borders. You must never go there."
"Why?"
"Because when your uncle and I were young, we got WRECKED" 😂
0:46 Lin Manuel Miranda is the only in songwriter in Hollywood apparently
Still riding that decade long Hamilton wave
How many musicals Hollywood even produces each year? Musicals are rare these days.
@@DrAnxiety17
Wicked part 1
Moana 2
Joker 2
Wish
@@JBish0 bro is being held captive at disney studios if he doesn't get out n lock in on his next musical already I swear
And he's trash.
A remake of The Lion King II: Simba's Pride would have failed all the same.
Indeed. And that was a good Disney sequel
@chasehedges6775 One of the few good DTD sequels.
@@wickdaline8668 younger me crushed hard on Kovu
@@LotusBeppi Making lion them OCS 😂.
I mean it’s alright
Mufasa: Shadow! Help me!
Shadow: Long live the king!
Disney executives: No!
Disney has way too much confidence in this movie if they think they could compete with Sonic 3 for the attention of families.
There really is no replacing of Nathan Lane and Ernie Sabella as Timon and Pumba. But there is _definitely_ no replacing them with Rogen and Eichner.
Mufasa is adopted? Disney gets dumber and dumber
Disney is not as good as it used to be.
@@chasehedges6775 Last time I checked, in the original Lion King, (Not the CGI version) It was actually Scar who was the adopted child. Either that, or he was planned to be adopted before a rewrite. And that always made the most sense to me. Kinda like how Jafar in either version of Aladdin wanted to be Sultan, but couldn't since he wasn't blood related.
So making Mufasa the adopted one makes zero sense. Disney really is losing their touch. Heck, they probs been out of touch for much longer.
@@SmashCrafter321Ahadi probably looked like Scar but a lot bulkier just like Mufasa.
Every Disney decline is worse than the one before it.
@@Attmay 👍
It's nice to find a critic that doesn't hold back their opinion, but also doesn't ham it up.
Mufasa: "Sonic!!! Brother... Help me!!!"
Sonic: "Ya Gotta Go Fast!!!"
Shadow: "Don't tell me you have a catch phrase..."
@@Mariodash23 *Live and Learn intensifies*
The "king of the past" scene is the explicit one which was reconned by this story. The light touches scene is a safe call out too. And in spirit, it seems like the story goes against the "divine right of kings" which the scene of the rains coming when Simba takes his rightful place. If his dad was the first king of his line, that's a much weaker idea.
So you know how in the first movie, when Mufasa is trying to scale up the mountain and Scar uses his claws to stab into Mufasa's paws and makes sure to look into Mufasa's eyes as he murders him? I love how this movie used that same move not once but TWICE, only this time he was saving Mufasa's life. It's supposed to twist the knife and make you remember that the next time he does it, he's flinging Mufasa off a cliff to his death, but it just really highlights how soulless this whole thing is (and how it picks and chooses what "matters" from the animated one, since they made sure to keep that but threw out a ton of other stuff). Also, the music sucked.
the bye bye song was so unserious 💀
I do think it was at least a little more ambitious to do this story than just do a shot for shot remake of Simba's Pride. Even if it ultimately didn't work.
they couldn't cuz incest (perceived despite it being obviously not real) and disney made another continuity error awhile ago when they created lion guard- this was them trying to fix that issue by presenting another issue so they can keep the lion guard IP since it was so popular back then- mufasa is them setting up to do a simba's pride remake- they just failed miserably in doing so
WAIT- So they’re saying that Mufasa and Scar are not ACTUAL brothers?! Well, that just f*cks with just about everything, now doesn’t it? Not just is the brother betrayal storyline a lot weaker now but a lot of key things in the Lion King mirrored real life animal kingdoms and many fans appreciated that. For instance, in the original film, it made perfect sense for two brothers in the wild to stick together and form a coalition before one betrays the other because that’s what happens in real life a lot of time. It was neat to see the film reflect the wild in impactful, deep ways. The powerful messages about brotherhood and family have also been pissed on by this movie. And to add insult to injury, now Scar isn’t even Simba’s true uncle! Man, Disney sucks!
Ah, yes, adopted family members are totally not truly family just because they don't share the same DNA as their other family members.
@@KnightEclipser One, I didn’t say that. And two, you are completely missing the POINT and the connections I pointed out in my comment about the real animal kingdom and how fans greatly appreciated the deep, genius parallels made between the original movie and real life. Also, just because many appreciate that the film emphasized the importance of blood and family, doesn’t mean we are rejecting adopted kids! 😂 Give me a break. You’re being ridiculous. It’s like me being upset that a movie was remade and ruined a message about being a good father by replacing him with a mom, and then you tell me that it means I don’t appreciate moms or accept that they can raise kids just as well! Me saying the deep messages about blood and family have been ruined doesn’t mean I don’t think families can be built in other ways or in even stories about adoptive or extended families that AREN’T The Lion King.
Actually in lion prides, brother lions often "rule" a pride together. It's the outside lion males who go rogue and try to kill the cubs they aren't related to
And it is just a straight up retcon. In the beginning of the Lion King, after Mufasa scolds Scar and gets in his face saying "is that a challenge?", Scar comments on it by stating that while he inherited intelligence, when it comes to strength he got "the small end of the gene pool" compared to Mufasa. Scar literally states they are blood related.
@@KnightEclipserthat’s not the point the point is it kinda fucked up the canon
If you want to watch a movie this Christmas, watch Sonic 3 instead
real
👍.
Got it
Already did yesterday
i would do it, if here in Italy didn't come out in January
So we're all in agreement this isn't canon, right?
It’s canon to the live action universe but not the animated universe
The song that especially didn’t sit well with me was “Bye Bye” for a villain that supposed to be intimidating and a general threat it doesn’t work well when it’s saying “I make you go bye bye.” Like what?
Some exec: "Guys, I just saw this really scary movie called 'The Bye Bye Man'! Modern audiences think someone saying 'bye bye' is really scary! Put a 'bye bye' song into this movie!"
"Sir, I don't think that will work because..."
"Do it, or you're going bye bye!"
That song made me cringe the entire time while it was on-screen at the theater. It sounded like such a weird, childish song for a villain who is supposed to be intimidating.
I know dude.. I swear they could've picked any other SLIGHTLY intimidating phrase and it'd be .. slightly less mid? "bye bye" of all things? I'd walk out of the theater.
disney should’ve known their place and released this AFTER sonic 3
The future is now old man 😂
Naw, let it burn 😏
And what? Miss out on all the fun of their inevitable failure?
Do you want to know what movie, in my opinion, did a better job of being an origin story for a well-known hero, and his former friend turned arch nemesis? Transformers One
A WAY better job. Paramount should’ve advertised it better. It’s like they wanted it to fail
Ahhh I agree 100% the turn of taka felt unrealistic considering how close the two were. Or maybe not unrealistic, but I think the pieces were laid out but not hammered as well together as they could’ve been
lmao Are you serious? Scar gets upset that a girl he likes prefers Mufasa, and feels that teaming up with his father’s murderer to kill Mufasa is the correct course of action? WTF is that writing?
It says a lot about writers when they back themselves into a corner and instead of pausing and looking back to see what they can fix, they just put a bandaid on it and carry on like nothing is wrong. And they expect the audience to be stupid enough to be okay with that (and I'm afraid it's working)
That summary only demonstrates your poor critical ability.
@@ILOVELAMBS I haven’t seen the movie. That’s how Captain Midnight describes it in this video.
@@Waffletigercat
Scar essentially gets the Tai Lung treatment. Not only is he gasses up to be the king, he is also stated by almost everyone he meets to be the king. Mufasa hypes Scar up for Zarabi, and to be his wingman, just for Mufasa to get Zarabi instead. Not only that, but Zarabi explicitly states how Mufasa is supposed to be a king, and not Scar. And then, it's revealed that Rafiki ALSO views Musafa as his brother, and Mufasa accepts, which makes Scar's one special thing, brotherhood, lost.
Tldr: Mufasa took everything away from Scar
@ That still doesn’t sound like it makes colluding with the creatures that killed your entire blood family and drove you out of your homeland to be a reasonable choice.
People love the OG Timon and Pumba.
People hate Seth Pumba and Whathisface-Mon. They're both awful looking and defeat the purpose they had from the original animated versions, that they served as honest comic relief but also gave Simba bad advice on running away from his responsibilities and fears.
These you really hope someone poaches them.
My local (non American) Cinemas are really pushing Mufasa, they are only going to air Sonic 3 on the 25th and only show again in 2 of January. Meanwhile Mufasa is on before and after today. I am glad that despite the shilling, Sonic is winning.
1:45 😂😂 Not sure if this SEGA bit was intentional or not, but it’s hilarious
YMS really made a giang video about how kimba and the lion king arent comparable just for disney to go "yea were putting a white lion as a villain" huh
Love that dude (not in a gay way) and he’s a pretty big expert on The Lion King, Cool Cat, and some horrible M Night movies
@@JonathanGaeta"not in a gay way" 🤨 you hiding something?
@fernandodavid9495 YMS is gay
Lala lalalalala laaaaaaaaa la la la lalalala
Hmm suspicious
I can't believe Disney decided to trample on Osamu Tezuka's legacy by making kimba the villian in this movie!
Okay, I've kind of ignored the whole live action lion king and just clicked this out of curiosity. How the HELL are people not offput by the uncannyness of the human mouth movements and jumpy body language and weightless look of this animation? Nothing actually moves like that, what's the point?
Can't wait for Disney to learn nothing from this and we do this all over again with some other unwanted live action premake-quel like how genie ended up in the bottle starring jaden smith as a young will smith's genie
This is the consequences of people still paying to see these live action remakes. Majority of them are Disney Adults and blindly being loyal to Disney. I even got into a scuffle with one of them in the comments at the mere mention of Sonic 3
@@JonathanGaeta And RUclipsrs reviewing the movie.
don’t give them ideas
@JonathanGaeta Which is exactly why I made the decision to boycott all future live-action remakes a few years ago. And I'm so glad I did!
Have a wonderful new year, Captain! Thank you for all of your content.
Disney managed to turn one of the best villains of all time into a massive simp, who turns evil because his brother took Sarabi from him even though he only knew her for a day or so.
I don't consider it canon unless it's a hand drawn, traditionally animated movie like the original. I see the live action movies as having a separate cinematic universe.
Lion King, Toy story, Basil the Great Mouse detective, Prince of Egypt and Dinosaur are childhood staples.
I feel like disney has used the simp turned evil trope WAY too many times. Such pathetic villains.
Especially considering the fact most characters guilty of that trope have something less embarrassing to be jealous of. For example why wasn’t Scar more jealous of Mufasa taking his place in the pride.
Scar in the first classic animated version was clearly meant to be just a pure evil villain, everything about how he's animated to his scenes and his motives points to that. I agree with you. Their gonna pull the "oh we're giving the evil villain a sympathetic story!! you have to be sorry and sad about this and support this cashgrab now!!" so many times.
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Pride rock and Rafiki’s staff really didn’t need origin stories 💀 they could’ve both just already been there
“Im sure everyone wants an origin story for rufiki’s stick, lets put that in the movie”
I had no idea Barry Jenkins directed this garbage. Well, everybody's gotta get paid I guess.
I find realistic animals talking very creepy. It's not cute like animation.
Yeah, I don't really understand the manic obsession with realism that leads a studio to turn the original animated film into--- whatever the hell these things are. It's just bizarre, especially given Disney's history.
It almost feels wilfully dismissive of their own identity. That can't be the intent, but I don't understand what it might be.
I semi disagree. Live action animals talking can be appealing, the Babe movies an example. I say semi because it only works when its real animals with minimal special effects, not full body CGI.
@@nebiatyifru4045 i get what u mean. But i guess when it's just a novelty in the story or an extraordinary event (although I don't like it very much either). In this case where it's "normal" it creeps me out 🤣
@@nahuel IIRC, the first 101 Dalmatians live-action duology (the one with Glenn Close Cruella) avoids this by making the dogs not speak, which fits since in the original (as well as Patch's London Adventure), animals can understand humans, but not the other way around.
The plague dogs does it really well. It’s 2d animation
"Let me tell you something my father told me: 'Look at the stars. The great kings of the past look down on us from those stars. So whenever you feel alone, just remember that those kings will always be there to guide you, and so will I.'"
is some version of this line in the movie at least?
No. Unfortunately, no.
Mufasa barely even acknowledges his father at all during the movie. The most they do when he finally gets home and finds his biological mom is ask "is dad..?" And she kinda just nods and they never mention him again. Even though he literally died saving him.
Ofc not also he’s adopted. The only thing I like about the remake is one song and that’s it.
Shadow: “Long live the KING.”
Taka... They left out his original name in The Lion Guard, so I'd hoped they were considering getting rid of that concept from the NO LONGER OFFICIAL book series in favor of a better name. But nope. They bring back the concept that he was named "garbage" from the start. Not to mention all of this flies in the face of the backstory they'd built up in The Lion Guard... Guess it's an alternate reality?
Thank goodness James Earl Jones didnt see how Disney used Mufasa
Do you ever think that one day Disney will realize that other composers exist aside from Lin Manuel Miranda?
Crap or not, this would have been SO successful if they’d have just made it the original hand drawn animation style!
It wouldn’t have been crap then cus animation takes a lot more time and money and Disney wouldn’t invest it unless they made sure the plot was up to snuff.
This isn’t that Disney anymore. It’s “we want quick cash and we do not support artists with good stories”. Just look at Owl House. They got rid of an extremely popular series for no reason. Cus they decided it wasn’t going to be profitable despite it being a cash cow.
@@ma.2089this cgi monstruosity is way more expensive.
And it would've failed like any other direct-to-dvd sequel, it feels like one.
So does it being 2D animated somehow erase all of the character assasinations, plotholes and narrative inconsistencies or...
Basically doing a prequel to Hamlet is actually ridiculously insane and shows the hubris of Disney
I still stand by in saying that Lion King 2: Simba's pride is an underrated classic.
Rafiki carried this movie so hard, I went in with no expectations but the Rafiki scenes were genuinely great
Time for "Here Lie Live-action Remakes" to be added to the Disney graveyard
I cannot wait for that moment
All of disneys best movies have been adaptations of earlier works, with their most notable being an adaptation of Shakespeare’s hamlet.
Why then, doesn’t Disney try to adapt another Shakespeare tragedy in animated form? Or create an adaptation of another Grimm fairytale? Why do they put their own previous work on a higher pedestal than classics like these? A new rendition of Othello could be amazing, for instance.
You'd think that after Disney adapted many fairy tales (while trying to steal them from their countries through patent trolling), they would've adapted the second most iconic fairy tale Little Red Riding Hood. Disney a few years ago would've made an amazing adaptation of that but not in their current state. Dreamworks certainly can't do it because they've made 4 main Shrek films and they did absolutely nothing with her.
Because to do something like that would require EFFORT.
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