If GM is smart they are watching the mach e rotting on lots and not go that route, the whole allocation and ordering process outside of pandemic was shamefully handled poorly and may end up costing gm in the long run for the loyal buyers, we seen, heard 100's of people say they wanted a Camaro but they would not accept their order so great point on that, i know for a fact gm dictated to the smaller dealers what they could order (v6 or v8) in the last days of Camaro and funny how that is still happening today with other auto makers, Ford recently has clamped down on dealers wanting to order v8 trucks but will let them order all the v6 and hydrids they want. Looking at Cadillac there are lots of options if a new Camaro came back including the twin turbo v6, the 3.6 na and still the blackwing so its mindblowing why gm does what they do.
As a 2024 2SS 1LE owner I can say this ,I tried to get an allocation since 2023 orders opened, I obviously never got a 23 but I did get a 2024 ,It was shameful on GM's part how they handled this.They played a big part in the low sales even pre plandemic 😮
I love my 2022 Camaro SS 1LE w/Tremec manual. Came perfect from the factory, I won’t replace anything but the tires. What a steal of a car for under $50k. I believe it's better than the S550 Mach1 with the track package which were MSRP’d at $67k. If you look around you can find 6th Gen SS 1LE’s for sale here and there with low miles. Fantastic buy for the money.
I’m currently a 4th gen camaro owner and I did have a 5th Gen for a short time. I test drive a 6 th Gen camaro and I liked it but I perfer the 5th Gen Camaro over the 6th Gen Camaro.
I had no idea there was a refresh until I saw one driving behind me about 2 years ago. I remember going "What the hell is that thing?" and as it drove by me I realized it was a Camaro SS. I actually thought it looked awesome and now I own one, haha.
Oh man! GM just wasn't trying at the end. The Camaro was allowed to die on the vine. For me, the high water mark was the 1969 Camaro Z/28. Chevy kept using the hallowed name and stuck it on Camaro's from the malaise era and that was simply embarrassing. So over time, the Camaro name became irrelevant. Very sad.
I always said GM should of kept the stingray front engine to make up for the camaro's absence. Then make the higher performance models mid engine and maximize their price tag while still having an affordable option for purists and enthusiasts. I hope the camaro comes back in amuch sleeker and lighter form. Until then, I will hol don to my C7 until the frame rusts and breaks in half.
I wish someone would've made the comparison between the 6th gen Camaro, ATS coupe, and Pontiac GTO. Because I think the ATS coupe's ergonomics is what team Camaro should've shot for, with the GTO's interior space. What we got is a cramped interior with horrible blind spots, a long hood where its hard to see out in front of you. Livability should've been priority #1, design #2. Its why Challenger sold well into 5 and 6th gen Camaro's cycles.
2019 Camaro was an aggressive masculine car. Then the following generation? Not even close, it became a malibu. If they made the Camaro the masculine 2019 car again? Hell yeah.
GM doesn't make anything good anymore besides trucks, large SUVs, or corvette. Everyone I know who bought an Cruz or a sedans hates them because they are not reliable. I am buying a Toyota Because I need something that is dependable
Those new Mustangs in V8 are pretty affordable. I'm looking to buy another Tesla 2021 used Model 3 Performance and that's around 30K to 34k used. Way quicker and better car but wow a new mustang is pretty affordable.
@@SkeenDogger if you want a non performance pack, they are much cheaper but the performance pack is a MUST if you are tracking/roadcourse the car (which is what I would do).
GM didn't have any clue what to do for a 5th gen, but then they realized that Ford had a thing going and just copied their idea for a retro generation. And now here we are and GM is out of ideas again. When they killed Pontiac, I turned my back on GM forever. Which is sad, because back in the day, back when I was teenager in the 80's (I know that was a long, long time ago), I was a Camaro/Firebird guy. But hats off to Ford now, they are the only one still making a V8 coupe pony car. GM lost.
@@rickr9504 this is exactly what I’m saying. People blame blind spots and viability but I’ve personally only heard that excuse a few times asking Chevy dealers and/or car shows, lll. Most people didn’t buy because they couldn’t find what they wanted (I was one of em).
@@ChrisFromFloriduh So was I. I sold my 2018 2SS 1LE because it had an issue GM could not fix, thinking I could jump on a newer one. All the 1LEs lefts were automatic transmission, and the ones that looked like the one I wanted, were marked up and dealers refused to negotiate or even discuss pricing. I kept looking for several years until I gave up. These days, I don't see many that can replace that car. I may have to settle for a used CT4-V Blackwing or used M2, or maybe a used ZL1 if they drop the price.
If GM is smart they are watching the mach e rotting on lots and not go that route, the whole allocation and ordering process outside of pandemic was shamefully handled poorly and may end up costing gm in the long run for the loyal buyers, we seen, heard 100's of people say they wanted a Camaro but they would not accept their order so great point on that, i know for a fact gm dictated to the smaller dealers what they could order (v6 or v8) in the last days of Camaro and funny how that is still happening today with other auto makers, Ford recently has clamped down on dealers wanting to order v8 trucks but will let them order all the v6 and hydrids they want. Looking at Cadillac there are lots of options if a new Camaro came back including the twin turbo v6, the 3.6 na and still the blackwing so its mindblowing why gm does what they do.
Yall should follow Mark (channel pinned) as well.
@ChrisFromFloriduh thanks Chris 🙏 always appreciate the longtime support 👍 keep up the great work- alot of good points in this video!
I got my 1SS 6MT and it’s the best car I’ve ever owned.
No no no no no no. If GM made an EV version of the Camaro it would be $67,000 and up. GM is their own worst enemy when it comes to pricing their cars.
Nobody wants an EV camaro.... lol. Ffs GM is putting a 1000hp+ twin turbo V8 in the corvette ZR1.
As a 2024 2SS 1LE owner I can say this ,I tried to get an allocation since 2023 orders opened, I obviously never got a 23 but I did get a 2024 ,It was shameful on GM's part how they handled this.They played a big part in the low sales even pre plandemic 😮
I love my 2022 Camaro SS 1LE w/Tremec manual. Came perfect from the factory, I won’t replace anything but the tires. What a steal of a car for under $50k. I believe it's better than the S550 Mach1 with the track package which were MSRP’d at $67k. If you look around you can find 6th Gen SS 1LE’s for sale here and there with low miles. Fantastic buy for the money.
@@CarStory I agree. I’m not gonna be in the market to upgrade until 2027.
I’m currently a 4th gen camaro owner and I did have a 5th Gen for a short time. I test drive a 6 th Gen camaro and I liked it but I perfer the 5th Gen Camaro over the 6th Gen Camaro.
I had no idea there was a refresh until I saw one driving behind me about 2 years ago. I remember going "What the hell is that thing?" and as it drove by me I realized it was a Camaro SS. I actually thought it looked awesome and now I own one, haha.
I'm now not gone to sell my Camaro SS 2017...❤
Oh man! GM just wasn't trying at the end. The Camaro was allowed to die on the vine. For me, the high water mark was the 1969 Camaro Z/28. Chevy kept using the hallowed name and stuck it on Camaro's from the malaise era and that was simply embarrassing. So over time, the Camaro name became irrelevant. Very sad.
I always said GM should of kept the stingray front engine to make up for the camaro's absence. Then make the higher performance models mid engine and maximize their price tag while still having an affordable option for purists and enthusiasts. I hope the camaro comes back in amuch sleeker and lighter form. Until then, I will hol don to my C7 until the frame rusts and breaks in half.
I need to figure out WHY this videos audio quality completely fell off after uploading it to the site. If yall know, inform me.
I wish someone would've made the comparison between the 6th gen Camaro, ATS coupe, and Pontiac GTO. Because I think the ATS coupe's ergonomics is what team Camaro should've shot for, with the GTO's interior space. What we got is a cramped interior with horrible blind spots, a long hood where its hard to see out in front of you. Livability should've been priority #1, design #2. Its why Challenger sold well into 5 and 6th gen Camaro's cycles.
GM could have stole the show if they made a Camaro retro based on 2nd generation.
2019 Camaro was an aggressive masculine car.
Then the following generation?
Not even close, it became a malibu.
If they made the Camaro the masculine 2019 car again?
Hell yeah.
GM doesn't make anything good anymore besides trucks, large SUVs, or corvette. Everyone I know who bought an Cruz or a sedans hates them because they are not reliable. I am buying a Toyota Because I need something that is dependable
Those new Mustangs in V8 are pretty affordable. I'm looking to buy another Tesla 2021 used Model 3 Performance and that's around 30K to 34k used. Way quicker and better car but wow a new mustang is pretty affordable.
@@SkeenDogger if you want a non performance pack, they are much cheaper but the performance pack is a MUST if you are tracking/roadcourse the car (which is what I would do).
Acura, doesn’t, and never had a V8. Correct me if I’m wrong though
@@connordooley you’d be correct, I must have had their (Hondas) BF350 engine on the mind which isn’t for cars, lol.
@@ChrisFromFloriduh yeah, i get that lol. It’s a cool engine from what I’ve heard
GM didn't have any clue what to do for a 5th gen, but then they realized that Ford had a thing going and just copied their idea for a retro generation. And now here we are and GM is out of ideas again. When they killed Pontiac, I turned my back on GM forever. Which is sad, because back in the day, back when I was teenager in the 80's (I know that was a long, long time ago), I was a Camaro/Firebird guy. But hats off to Ford now, they are the only one still making a V8 coupe pony car. GM lost.
Camaros were not selling because no one could find the one they wanted. They were just making the basic models that very few people wanted to buy.
@@rickr9504 this is exactly what I’m saying. People blame blind spots and viability but I’ve personally only heard that excuse a few times asking Chevy dealers and/or car shows, lll.
Most people didn’t buy because they couldn’t find what they wanted (I was one of em).
@@ChrisFromFloriduh So was I. I sold my 2018 2SS 1LE because it had an issue GM could not fix, thinking I could jump on a newer one. All the 1LEs lefts were automatic transmission, and the ones that looked like the one I wanted, were marked up and dealers refused to negotiate or even discuss pricing. I kept looking for several years until I gave up. These days, I don't see many that can replace that car. I may have to settle for a used CT4-V Blackwing or used M2, or maybe a used ZL1 if they drop the price.
It went away because it was over priced