Why Vernestra Rwoh is So Important to The Acolyte
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- Vernestra Rwoh has made her live action debut on The Acolyte! So who is she, and why is she so important to the story of the series and the High Republic era as a whole?
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She was very concerned with OSHA violations in the first episode. Refreshing to see some Jedi are concerned with occupational safety.
Can't blame her the jedi order is a lawsuit waiting to happen
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The High Republic books have been good, glad to see someone from the books make it into live action.
Vernestra was so surprisingly judgmental toward Elzar Mann at the end of Defy the Storm-a Jedi she believed had wrongly killed someone-that I found her reaction to the situation in the first episode of The Acolyte to be right in character for her. Or at least not outside the scope of how she might react to hearing a seemingly believable report that a former padawan had murdered someone.
Man I love this channel. I’m exhausted of the cynicism around Star Wars and rejuvenated by the enthusiasm and love (all with critical thought) thank you!
I entirely agree. It feels like the fandom has been overrun, at least online, by bitter, angry culture warriors who go into every new thing looking for reasons to hate it. I read so many comments and am left wondering why these people continue to engage so passionately with a franchise that clearly brings them no joy. I love that this channel fundamentally approaches Star Wars from a positive angle, as a thing we all love, despite (and still acknowledging) it's flaws.
I also do appreciate that they have gone on the offensive the moment acolyte came out, modding the comment sections and getting rid of all the vicous and hateful comments that provide nothing but useless spite.
weird I prefer over critical people over simple minded mouth breather, who will watch and praise ang slop like this that's thrown their way. At least the people being critical have a spine.
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Light Whip sounds like a terrifying weapon to face. Imho it's a perfect Sith Weapon
In Legends, Darth Bane’s Sith girlfriend, Githny yielded a light whip,
@@rubenballesteros-so2zi yeah, the lightwhip is another one of those star wars fan selective memory things where its dumb when the new canon does it but was fine in legends.
I do wonder how you practice that without decapitating yourself though, I mean the obvious would be practice with a regular whip but that seems about as daft as practicing to use a lightsaber using a stick or a regular sword, the technique for a weapon that has no weight anywhere but the end you're holding must be a whole different beast
@@cptsteele91 In the recent High Republic novel Defy the Storm, Venestra Rwoh while in solitude at the start of the book, has as her everyday morning routine practicing with her light whip.
I enjoy the channel, Disney bought star wars, and produce new content, some are good, some are not, I am always happy to have a open view on new stories.
Is cool to see her in live action
Was so excited to see her appear in love action, and can’t wait to see her use the light whip.
Also need to know more about what seemingly changed her attitude to where it is in The Acolyte!
She’s meant to illustrate how the Jedi have become focused on the wrong things. I appreciate her purpose in the story. Because she’s doing well at her roll I hate her.
Yord is an example of that as well moreso he has stick up his exhaust port.
@@TheHeston83 yea he is. They’re really doing a good job of making it clear that Mae isn’t successful because she’s cunning but more so the Jedi have become inept. Too ridged and focused on the wrong things. Good people but foolish thus allowing the sith and a novice acolyte to create such trouble.
Indeed good stories need good antagonists.
Ive been seeing some comments of disappointment regarding Vern being far from what she used to be and so different, not a complete 1:1 transition from book to show.
While its understandably frustrating, I think many forget that its intentional and is like what happened with Mando Ahsoka VS TCW/Rebels Ahsoka. Not only has a lot of time passed, but she has undergone massive upheaval as of Defy the Storm, with Temptation of the Force and the next century likely doing more before she becomes what we see in the Acolyte.
If they want to bring book Vern to the screen, they can always do so in Young Jedi Adventures. Preferably voiced by Noel Wells (Tendi in Star Trek Lower Decks & Lord Dominator in Wander Over Yonder).
Its same way Vice Admiral Holdo from The Last Jedi time has passed for people
Can they just once take a cynic from the books and show them being better in live-action? The constant optimistic character -> depressed pipeline is stupid and uncreative. I thought this was a franchise about happiness and joy, not doom and gloom all the time.
@@Hello-bi1pmI agree it would be amazing if someone can remain an optimist throughout their whole life.
Real world sadly has shown this is never the case.
@@myriadmediamusings this is a fairy tale franchise for 12-year olds, not a real world
I think it’s (Vernestra and Osha) similar to how the council was ready to blame Ahsoka for the bombing of the Jedi temple…
As someone who listened to the audiobooks I love the actress perfomance, she really sounded like Vern. I see some comments complaining about her personality changing a bit and I think that's totally on purpose. The events of THR are supposed to show how the Jedi changed from their golden age to how we see them in the prequels. And this show takes place 100 years after those events, of course Vern is not going to be the same from when she was a teenager. Not only did she grew up but those events changed her and the Jedi as a whole
She acts like Mace Windu, very stick up to rules and dogmatic. Hope she won't end like him.
Lol she's even bald and wields purple.
Mace Windu wasnt entirely dogmatic This quote comes to mind "The Jedi council will have to will have to take control of the senate to secure a peaceful transition" he wanted to maintain Democracy.
And just like Windu, completely unlikeable because of it. To me anyway.
@@lightspeedbear Nah windu was very likable in cw and plus its sam jackson how can u not love him he almost killed palps if ani hadn't stepped in
@@swiftsamurai6833 He wasn't likeable in Clone Wars. He was agianst clones interacting with civilian population on Ryloth.
I can't believe my 3 favorite Jedis are in live action/had shows now. Ahsoka Tano, Vernestra Rwoh, and Obi-wan had his show.
She gaves me Mace Windu vibes
Do you think she’s going to ask to talk to the manager
So I'm saying this without having read anything from phase 3 of the High Republic yet. But I get the sense that maybe she went through something similar like Stellan, they were both prodigies and became poster figures of the Jedi Order. And I can see how that pressure overwhelmed them and made them lose a little of that free-thinking nature. And I can also understand that the Jedi are very cautious with this matter, where already two members have been killed and that it is related to some choices they may have made in the past.
Great video as always. Good to pin-point a character like that and give her the credit she deserves.
Are we sure she ain’t the traitor that feed May the inside scoop.
Could be 👀
I think that too. Palpatine vibes
They should have kept the purple hair for the show. Great backstory recap.
On dogma and political enemies: Being concerned about “political enemies” is not necessarily any different than being concerned about “physical enemies.” That is, they are threats, and it does not mean one is dogmatic for being aware of them.
Real world example: The Iranian government, as we all know, if functionally ruled by a fundamentalist faction within Twelver Shi’i Islam. The Sufi Orders that remain in Iran are under constant *political* threat from the government, which can sometimes boil over into violence. The Sufis in Iran being aware of this, and taking steps to do their due diligence to avoid harm is not a sign of dogmatism or corruption.
So, in the case of Vernestra being aware of political enemies, and wanting to take steps to avoid giving them ammunition, is not necessarily a sign of dogmatism or corruption. To be sure, the Jedi in this period are not a persecuted minority (yet!), but that doesn’t change the actual existential danger represented by political enemies. Particularly given that the Jedi Order is nearly and primarily completely destroyed *politically* before it is nearly destroyed existentially (the Sith nearly “killed the dream”), Vernestra’s concern is actually rather astute and even prescient.
Vernestra worried about if it became known that a former jedi killer anoter jedi. Its master Sol that speaks about "political enemies", but Vernestra is more into saving face and make an exampel, of the suspect. (The very weak evidence is either weak writing of the show or subtext.)
@@karl-niclasburner8451 Fair point. But it doesn’t change the heart of what I mean: Vernestra is responding in a perfectly strategic way to a very real threat. And an eye witness, such as the barkeep (and all of the other folks who could corroborate his story), is not weak evidence. So bringing Osha in is a perfectly reasonable response in context. Vernestra is not saying Osha is for sure guilty, only 1) that there is enough evidence to bring Osha in, and 2) that there is a very real existential threat to the Jedi in the form of political enemies (again, something, as SW fans, we know she is not only correct about, both rather prescient).
@@jeffmiller6025 I got stuck with how she didnt say anything about finding out the truth, but the importance of making an exampel. As for the weakness of one eye withness, I how hard it would be to identify an individual from another species like Mon Calamari or Twi'leks. They all do sorta look alike.
@@karl-niclasburner8451 I suspect that if you’ve lived your whole life surrounded by various species of folks, you can probably tell the difference fairly easily. And this is probably doubly true for non-humans identifying humans, given that humans are far and away the most represented species in the galaxy. Besides, there were other humans in the bar when she attacked. So I doubt it would be hard to find corroborating witnesses from various specifies. They just showed the bartender since 1) his evidence was the strongest and 2) he’s easily recognizable to the audience for obvious reasons.
And you’re right about what Vernestra didn’t say. And she could be assuming guilt given the heavy strength of the eyewitness(es) account(s). But as the second episode showed, she was also totally fine when even stronger counter-evidence presented itself.
@@jeffmiller6025 IDK if I agree about the species, but then again I had a hard time finding my japanese coworker in a crowd when we visited Japan for work.
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Thank always for filling in the blanks!
I feel like a lot of people that don't like the Acolyte aren't high republic fans. I've read the phase one comics and I'm reading light of the jedi, I'm really invested in the show because it feels like the high republic. I think people love to hate star wars nowadays. A lot of it is bad but the high republic is some of the best storytelling we have got in a while.
Quality content. Thank you!❤
I love Vernestra in the books. Not so much in the Acolyte. She seems more concerned about image and politics. Such a shame.
People change with time and pressure
We’ve hardly seen her yet?
Rebecca Henderson was also in season 2 of Westworld
& is married to Leslye Headland.
Thank you for this video.
Cheers and thanks for diving in 💚🖤
I think she is going to be the reason why the Jedi do not know about sith
Q&A I might sound crazy but what do you think happened to all the imps that we didn’t see die in the bad batch I would like a whole video on this and your head cannon on what happened to them and if they where present in any big cannon events 🙏 I’m begging for you to answer this
I never knew Miralans can only live under 70 yrs unless theyre tuned in the force and can live past over a century.
So what's confusing me is this, is Vernestra Rwoh a Mirialan like Lumanara Unduli & the 7th Sister?
She's probably the Dark Jedi,
or Sith, that' why the jedi covered these events up to the time of the phantom menace... :)
I was abit let down seeing her in the acolyte....I felt she wasn't the character i knew from book's. But alot must have happened in 100 years... But am still hopeful she hasn't had much screen time and there is still a few episodes to go! 🤟
YAY
Anyone else find it weird that someone on the crew (not sure if it's concept artists, designers etc) decided to make her bald?
Either they mandated or it was following the books, because as the books progressed, she slowly starting cutting her hair until the most recent book where it's almost a pixie cut.
after living that long I'd be sick of dealing with my hair too
@@Mollie_DamonTruth! 🤣 All it took was a bad hair day for me to shave my head, and I was only 20! (I quickly realized the error of my ways, as it was January in Wisconsin.)
The thing I'm looking forward to is how will the light whip SOUND...maybe new Star Wars soundgasm 🤤?
Thank you, Alex! 📖
Ah yes, so important….
I'm curious as to her position within the order. Is she part of the council or is she more of a middle manager?
Would she not be in the upper echelon of the order, if she worries about political enemies, send master Sol on an investigation and can direct the ongoing investigation as it develops?
I think this is being WAY too hard on Vernestra and the Jedi in general. The've been presented as very human and understandable in this show, something I'm grateful for. For Vernestra specifically, we haven't seen a lot of her so we don't really have a proper grip on how she has changed over the years but we have seen that she isn't rigid and inflexible. She isn't being dogmatic, she's being realistic. Just because she has expressed some concerns over how it might look to have a former Padawan killing Jedi for the Order, which is a valid concern because the Jedi need people to trust them in order to do their jobs but that doesn't mean her priority isn't also getting real justice for Indara and Torbin and getting to the truth. That's a very black and white lens to look at her with TBH. These are things she has to consider in her new role within the Jedi. She isn't a Knight taking instructions anymore, she has to give them now and look at all the angles. You can't approach those two roles the same way. She's grown up and is now acting accordingly. That's really all there is to her
I don't think so far that the Jedi have been presented in a way that is anti institution so to take up that mindset to go into the rest of the show with doesn't seem like a good idea to me
she's a cross between Mace and Yoda.
"it's like poetry. it rhymes."
Having now seen the episodes I can see why Justina is distancing herself from this version of Vern, she’s always seemed like a Karen in the making imo, but I don’t think Justina wants to look at it that way.
I get the feeling she is going to be quite annoying and stubborn in this series.
This channel is a safe place for fans. Please dont change
The Shrek lady?
Never really liked Vernestra in the books/comics. And I really don't like her in Acolyte lol. I was hoping the show would turn me around on her, but the opposite happened.
It's a shame she's gone stoic and totally unable to use gramatical contractions. There are a LOT of stoic characters in the Disney+ shows, personally I prefer characters with a personality, or even a hint of emotion.
l o r e
Seem like peoples from Reddit really like to complain everything about the show even a small fire outside the space ship in ep 1 😂
I hope you're right, she felt very off in THE ACOLYTE, Star Wars has been pretty good these days in showing us characters from different eras in different shows to show how they've changed, so maybe we're getting a strong hint that Vernestra is headed for some drastic character development in pre-acolyte stories. If not then it's just bad writing.
I love this channel! Just star wars content without the so called agenda
Or, maybe they could write her character to better reflect her true spirit.
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She's the Sith
No
She is important because she's the partner of the R2-me2 director, that's all
According to Canon
The make up in this show is so bad. They all look like cosplayers.
“she”?
Is she as flat, bland, and humorless in the books and comics?
Honestly, I wasn’t disgusted by this or anything like most of the stuff these days but it was pretty mediocre which I guess means it wasn’t that bad, but it wasn’t really that great either
They should cast someone who actually looks good bald…
Too bad the person playing the character got the role due to nepotism, being the significant other of harvey weinstein’s right hand woman.
Can’t imagine how sad your life is 😂
this shows is terrible, bad writing and acting
Still a cringe show though one the worst rated one even worse than last jedi.
Few things on earth matter less than a Star Wars fan’s opinion 🤷🏻♂️
If you want a better series, look up Starwar vs warhammer I highly recommended it
You’re never gonna touch a women 😂
Acolyte blows I won’t bother watching going forward
Who gives a sht