Masters Goes One Moral Compromise Too Far | House M.D.
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- Опубликовано: 1 мар 2024
- The team has to diagnose an ambitious 16-year-old girl but it turns into a case of ethics for Masters who has to choose whether to go against the patient's direct wishes or not.
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From Season 7 Episode 19 ''Last Temptation'': Thirteen (Olivia Wilde) rejoins the team, but Masters (Amber Tamblyn), who's completing medical school, might leave it to prepare for a surgical career. But first the team must diagnose a 16-year-old girl who collapses just before she's scheduled to begin sailing around the world.
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Pretty sure you can still sail with a prosthetic arm. There's a woman with a world record for it.
but it will take time to get used to the prosthetic arm, by that time she won't be the youngest person to sail around the world anymore. that's why she was in such a hurry to get back out to sea.
In 2009?
Yeah, but she still needs chemo, and recovery time for the amputation.
She would have died trying and not make her the youngest sailer around the world i think that was what she wanted to do ,havn't seen the whole show .
It's about the record
"A third lie? Welcome to the slippery slope" random House quote but it is so accurate though
*slope
She was this crushed over having to cut off a girl's arm, imagine if someone died under her care like the other members of house's team. Poor girl would lose her mind
She also caused the bradycardia in the first place, she basically gave the parents no other choice.
i dont think cutting off the arm was the issue
she was upset about the fact that she lied and manipulated the parents
She was this crushed over threatening this girls life to manipulate her parents into chopping her arm off and destroying every prospect of fulfilment she could ever have had
It's not just about amputating, it's about what she did to get there
Imagine if she was in Chase’s position and she was treating Dibala.
now she can be the youngest amputee to do whatever it was she was going to do
And thats (in difficulty) even better.
Although, you have to think, almost no one remembers the youngest (insert defining trait other than race) to do X.
@@mr.t0xic100 Dont think that'll apply if youre both the youngest to do it every AND the youngest amputee to do it
be an amputee and come back and tell us its a good thing
I have to say, medical series especially House are best at acting. The acting looks so real sometimes I end up forgetting that they're all acting lol.
or it is real & they just wanna make ya think its a tv show
Ehhhh I'd have to say +only+ House.
House the show, btw
That may actually say more about you than it does about the acting...
@@JeremyBearimy913What exactly dose that say about them?
They had doctors on the show as consultants as I recall (like they did on ER also) to add some realism.
Situations like this is are always heartbreaking. Everyone loses.
even house showed sadness in his own way
@@craigclermond8001 yeah.
That’s for sure. 🥺
I feel like masters would be a great general practice small town physician. She should do that. No life altering decisions to make there.
Yes people in small towns famously never get seriously ill
@@michaelfarrell4824 They very much do, but they rarelym seek treatment for serious stuff only in their small town
I think the way screenwriters built her character showed outstanding intelligence and hardship in working with people/for people. I think it was intended to push her tiwards the Big Science - lab environment, equipment and meticulous reports are actually more of her scene. She's a true perfectionist - more than House and Cuddy put together by the power of a hundred))) She'd be broken over every death she'd have to deal with, and death ALWAYS HAPPENS in medicine. Comes with the trade. Besides, she's very young and belongs to the generation who got to join workforce where demand for synthetic jobs are required more and more - she could go into biotech, biochem, AI in health and medical research,etc. I also see her teaching in later years - student usually respect someone who reached a certain peak being young and who's really knowledgeable, not just some savant/one line nerd kind or someone with connections (for the most prestigious chairs there's always a line and not necessarily the best ones get appointed to them, just like any other prestigious/well paid positions in another other field)))))
@@michaelfarrell4824 LMAO
@@febe111 That's true too. I live in a small town, but I go to Johns Hopkins for my ADPKD.
This 10 minute video only does so much if you watch the episode you will be in or at the edge of tears.
I only saw this and was utterly confused. It seemed like she lied to get her arm amputated but it wasn't needed.
@@AlexK-ew1mo it was needed
As an amputee myself, I know, 'tis but a scratch.
Also, I sail.
Kudos to you. Sir black knight of Monty Python.
Leg or arm? I'm an above the left elbow amp.
Hey, good on you!
Our little girl is finally growing up. I mean you dream of this day, but when it finally happens.
It says a lot that even House was at a loss for words at the end, seeing how much her choice destroyed her.
On one hand, the kid was not being rational. Risking your life over something silly like setting a record?
On the other hand, Masters intentionally inducing a heart attack and lying about it to the parents so that they would authorize the amputation was ethically despicable and probably a guaranteed couple of million in malpractice if they ever figured out what she'd done. The oath is "do no harm"...harming a patient to trick their family into doing a procedure, no matter how necessary, isn't how it's supposed to work.
She jumped the shark and went more House than even House usually does.
"On the other hand..." 😂 amputee humor
You cut before she tripped over the bird, but I forgive you 😢
I love martha character she went down in this episode it was too much for her, she was too moral as not to lie and end up lying a lot as chase said he change a lot because of working with House and there was no way to turn back.
A doctor's job is to tell you medically what you should do, not to make you do it.
That comes up fairly early in med school.
And this is a TV show, not med school
@@andrealuvshouseyou'd be surprised how often a doctor's ego can bubble up
House once goated a man into punching him so he could strike him back with his cane and rupture a cyst in his liver just to prove a point.
@@iRazenrak*goaded
In this case she wasn't a consenting adult so her parents had the say in this matter .
House has had this dilema with his team a dozen times
Her fucking issue was taking matters into her own hands and not even reporting to House, he's walked them through it before, she violated everything she's ever stood for
Isn't that the point? That was what House wants her to do, she did it proving she can, but she realises she does not want that so she quits.
I feel like that’s the point Jeffrey Wright’s character makes about House in the series: House has made renegade behavior and ignoring rules a norm in the hospital, which causes the doctors and patients to both grievously suffer.
One of the reason i love this show and Californication so much is the score, the have alot of the same songs that played throughout the seasons
And there are quite a few songs performed by Hugh Laurie on the piano
I can't believe she is the same person that appeared as Charlie's daughter in 2,5 Men
"You want me to be like you"
"That's the last thing I want- because then neither of us would be exceptional"
Despite everything, THAT is what House thinks of his team.
I hate that they cut out the part where she tripped over the chicken XD
Someone still posting its amazing 😃
Look is the peacock network that’s doing it so you can then sign up to their channel to watch full episodes
So stop asking in every video
I am currently watching the series on peacock, but I already had peacock.
Really dedicated actress. The things she went through and now her arms gone too...
I always loved Amber Tamblyn ever since I saw Joan of Arcadia.
This is what happens in health care it can be devastating…. And you try and try and sometimes, a lot of times nature takes over… and you just do what you can to help the patient… I love humans that’s why I work in health care.
So what was this talk about an LP? In my day, an LP was also called a "record album" which was a... oh, never mind.
lumbar puncture. aka spinal tap
@@rachaelcameron1542 you missed the joke
I didn't know what an LP was either in the medical sense
It's when you withdraw some spinal fluid from the back like what she did to 13
This is spinal tap
Lumbar punctures are absolutely excruciating. Thirteen would've been weeping.
House did say she looked sick and in terrible pain later on, that explains it.
Given the amount of vicodin house stashes around the office (which we know she's swiped before like when she drugged him) I'm sure she had a solution...
Lumbar punctures are more likely to be uncomfortable, but should not be painful (particularly excruciating as you described). May I suggest that you speak with your physician about your experience?
@@mikearchambeau5640dude must have not gotten lidocaine or something
I've had one and the doctor used local anaesthesia first, so I wouldn't feel the pain of a huge needle going in my spine.
Aaaaannnd that's why children can't consent.
12 years after the series is out and they are still uploading clips, might as well release the whole show on youtube
Two reason why not
1. Copyright
2. Peacock network want you to sign up,to their channel so you can watch the full episodes their
It’s that simple
You shouldn’t of pushed. It is their decision. It is a girls decision. It is her life and what she chooses to do with that and whether or not, we agree with it or not it’s not up to us.
whether she "pushed" to persuade or not, in the end she took the arm by brute force.
As someone who works in healthcare Ive seen patients who don't take the DR's/CRNP's/PA's advice. What it comes down to is making sure the patient knows the risks of going against medical advice and respecting their wishes.
So... who's idea was it to induce a heart attack?
masters. that's why she's so upset when she leaves. she knew the parents were going to let the girl decide to postpone surgery to sail around the world and masters thought that was the wrong choice, so she faked the heart attack to force the parents to sign the consent forms to amputate. when she saw how devastated the patient was and how she had ripped this family apart just to make them do what she thought they should do, she couldn't stay with house's team and let his murky ethics continue to affect her practice.
Masters'. They asked her if she did it, and she said yes.
Nooooo!!! You cut it right where she tripped on a chicken!!
One hour, wow. I’m here fast.
I don’t care what anyone says I respected the characters that actually stood up for their principles and questioned house. The show would be boring if they didn’t provide a foil for one
Masters really hit rock bottom. She married Tobias Funke.
On the bright side, it is your left arm.
She saved a women's life... Sometimes you have to do it.... Just like she said... If she was out in the sea she would have been dead....
My life, my choice. Of course it's stupid to die for an arm but it's still wrong to induce a heart attack to ruch the procedure.
It's better to die for you dreams than it is to live in painful night terrors, so I agree with the patient more than Masters and the parents.
I wish she HAD stayed. I really liked her character.
Im surprised this account is still active considering the show stopped in 2012
Sweet sweet ad revenue
And then went on to be a pothead in two and a half men
Ive had my ears plugged for the last year. Haven't heard a thing 😂
Whoever said House doesn't Care about anyone but himself doesn't know house.
He HATED masters from the beginning and fired her multiple times in her firat episode
but once he Got to know the person he was Working w/.... He Grew to care about her and Her career. You can see it in this conversation.
He's Telling her that Yes she can walk away and forget this place but that things will never be the same for her because he knows what it's Like, It's a Slippery slope she's fallen down and he doesn't want to see her throw away everything she's worked for
Couldn't at least keep the last part, where a chicken catches her off guard? XD
5:04 well it’s certainly couldn’t be Lupus
Yeah, its never Lupus.😂
Masters did the right thing. The girl was not thinking rationally. She was risking her life for some stupid record.
Who decides what's more important ?
It was her life to risk, not Masters'.
@@Junebug89 well at least now for sure this person has a life now
People forget masters is exceptional at what she does and know but consistently rode by house in order to give her the reality of ha ing to against something even when it is right, she should have stayed imo, she was a cool one.
the sailing thing is a rip off when a 16yr australian girl was the first to sail around the world
Reading these comments, people really give House a pass for being a drug addict pyscho
Now….. Masters 😑🤨😒
I've always wondered why they couldn't just remove the bone and replace it with a titanium prosthetic. Why remove the entire arm?
You do realize, that Wolverine is a fictional character, right?
@@adriansue8955 There are many titanium joint replacements, not sure why it wouldn't work with a straight section of bone.
@@lilitharam44
Surgeries involving metal on bones generally try to add metal not take away bone but if necessary they take away as little as physically possible
Your bones are attached to your flesh in a way that metal can't and are a constant part of your bodies system
You can't live without them as easily as you might think
@@lilitharam44 a few reasons, the body doesnt like foreign objects in it particularly metal so you run the risk of rejecting the entire implant which is not good, and your immune response is going to be through the roof no matter what you do. Muscles are also joined to bones via tendons which are able to connect to the bone as it is highly vascularised. Metal is not vascularised naturally, of course, so any attached tissues probably wouldnt survive. So there's your plumbing problem also. It could theoretically be done yes, but at that point you're running a super soldier program and not treating a cancer.
@@lilitharam44 Did you even understand what the previous post wrote?
As self-righteous as masters was - she was a moral coward.
I would agree with you, right up until this episode. This was her moral coming of age.
It was in this moment that she realized her values weren't served by blindly following all rules, but about helping others. In this light, she was still laser-focused on doing what's right, anyone else be damned, just like always. She was willing to sacrifice her own sense of moral superiority for someone else. She finally stopped letting her ego get in the way, while still prioritizing the needs of others. That's real selflessness.
That's why House told her that nothing is ever going to be simple again. She hasn't given up on following the path of pure morality. She's just realized those moral decisions are a lot more complicated than "just always follow the rules". She's recognizing that morality isn't a one-size-fits-all cudgel, but rather, something that needs to adapt to the nuance of every situation independently. And that's complicated, and hard. And it also means taking personal responsibility for what she has decided is right. She's not simply hiding behind prescriptive morals decided by society anymore. That's why she's so scared and uncertain at the end.
But she keeps going forward anyway. Being brave isn't about not being scared. It's about being scared, and facing the challenge anyway. Exactly as she's doing. Notably, House doesn't try to discourage her from leaving. Even he approves.
@@phoenixpinkmyn5535 i agree with you up until your last paragraph. If facing the challenge anyway is your definition of bravery (I mean it’s the actual definition so), then she was entirely a coward. She isn’t leaving to continue making these ambiguous, nuanced, complicated moral decisions - she’s running because she doesn’t want to face them and have to live with the consequences of her choices. So she’s leaving those choices for others to make.
Not saying that isn’t what is best for her, just highlighting the irony.
Self righteousness and moral cowardice fit like a glove
Honestly I would sue the doctor and the hospital. This is what I don’t like about doctors. They let things get to their head and think they play god like this. Most doctors don’t even know the meaning of consent, and care more about their reputation rather than the lives they are supposed to care for.
i bet you pray to "god" when you get better and curse doctors when you get sick too. lmao perfect
@@doctorposting , I'd rather have doctors like Chopper and Law from One Piece than doctors like Masters.
I really hate Masters here. She drugged the patient to "save her", but instead she just killed her lifelong dream. If I was the writer, I would have written a much darker ending: the girl seeing her life-long dream destroyed loses the will to live and commits suicide. And Masters has to live with the fact that her decision led to the girls death....
why would that be necessary? we don't need a suicide to know Masters did a monstrous thing.
@@MaxwellsDemon9 many people think she was right
Honestly it looks like her passion for medicine died
what a selfish brat, I understand wanting this record and it being disappointing that you aren't going to get it but wanting to go and risk your life at sea while your family has to watch from a distance while you die of cancer is the most selfish thing I've heard in a while
Sailing is the only thing she knows. If your passion and livelihood required both hands and they wanted to cut your arm off today, you would feel the same way.
She's just a kid. She was just diagnosed with cancer. That always sounds like a death sentence. She wanted to follow her passion before she died.
That’s a pretty narrow-minded take. It was her dream and she was willing to risk her life for it. It’s a long life with one arm or a possibly short one with both arms. You might be willing to give up on your dreams because mommy and daddy said so but don’t put that on other people.
@@feraltaco4783 she is not going to die she wanted to sail one more time but if she did she was gonna die since the cancer was expanding that's why the doctor needed to amputated her arm
@@delmicortave I understand that. But, when someone is diagnosed with cancer there's always a feeling of being on borrowed time.