Dying to Save Your Future | House M.D..
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- A pregnant woman (Marin Hinkle) arrives at the hospital with brain and kidney problems and House must contend with her condition.
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From Season 1, Episode 18, Babies and Bathwater,
A pregnant woman (Marin Hinkle) arrives at the hospital with brain and kidney problems and House must contend with her condition and Vogler's eagerness to see the doctor removed by using the board members. The patient and her husband must decide between her life and their unborn child's, after the team discovers small cell lung cancer.
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It's actually cool to see more of House's human side in episodes like these. That "stay with me Sean" was one of the very few times house looks concerned and empathetic.
Edit: and if it hasn’t been said enough, Hugh Laurie was amazing with these deliveries.
I think he remembers being faced with a similar choice about his leg. And by his own admission it was the wrong one.
Favourite one is the mother who killed her baby, him throwing the cane and running
She was the one from two and a half men and her son. Jake. Alan’s ex wife.
Judith Harper
@@shelbychilingirian1479Ah yes! Thank you for the reminder. I was wondering! She's a very good actress! ✌️
Two things you can take from this is that cops have a tendency to mistake a medical ailment for drugs and alcohol, and House as a show has a realistic grip on the idea that you can't save everyone. Take every episode from the show and tally up how many patients didn't make it, and compare that to other doctor shows.
I mean, they mistake acorns for active shooters so I guess when it comes to cops, they are not the sharpest tool in the shed.
@@wfh9831that guy had some underlying PTSD or something bro. I've never seen a dude react like that in a real shooting much less that scenario. Not his (moronic) choice of firing at the car, but the weird grunts and gasps he made, as well as how he moved to cover.
To be fair they probably deal with more people on drugs than almost anyone and they have to assume what's more likely in the moment to protect everyone's safety
. Yes. Society expects too much from cops. On the other hand, a significant percentage of them are in it for the way bullying, dominating other people, makes them feel.
@@doorsareforopening Developing PTSD is a necessary prerequisite to becoming a cop. They get trained with all kinds of footage showing potential altercations with randos that lead to them not coming home from the job. Couple this with treating everything as a personal attack on their authority and, well...
when the husband dropped the cup at 8:23 I thought that House was going to magically solve the case by realizing he had a symptom that caused her bleeding lmao.
have you been drinking nope I have
That is quite possible in this show 😅
more mouse bites
One of saddest episodes of the series. And thats saying something because its....well it an episode of House.
I'm so sorry officer I must have dosed off
have you been drinking?
no I have been drinking!
My mom had small cell lung cancer. We had her almost 3 years but when it came back it was with a vengeance. It's a brutal disease traumatizing to watch someone go through. She was my best friend and i still miss her😭💔
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So sorry for your loss, I hope you’re doing well friend🫂
6 years since i lost mine, know the feeling. Stay strong friend
7:10 may we all never have to make that kind of decision. 🥺
Ameen.
did that police seriously think she was actually drunk when she can't form a word? I'm pretty sure first thing people would think is someone is having a stroke.
Have you met the police in the US? This is typical.
I'm actually surprised he didn't tase the husband after she fainted and then arrest both of them and not call an ambulance.
@@WalkingTaako42 You must be American.
I worked security for 13 years. Simple reality is, your perspective changes. You deal with the trash of humanity enough, that you come to expect it. You're trained to expect the worst, and your training is reinforced because if you expect the worst, you can deal with it, but anything that isnt the worst is a walk in the park. So yeah, I'm sure that after 1000 traffic stops where people who had symptoms of being under the influence turned out to be under the influence, you'd expect someone to be under the influence. And when your first duty of care is to yourself, goddamn right you're going to be getting the irate husband in the car and under control before turning back to the suspected drunk. The scene played out as it would in reality, it's just everyone who doesnt have an actual clue about the realities of the world doesn't get that.
Also, stroke, acronym is FAST. (F)acial droop, inability to lift (A)rms, (S)lurred speech, (T)ime to call emergency services. She had slurred speech, not the most obvious and recognisable sign of facial droop.
accurate for dumb cops
Judith never stopped searching for "wood"....Good Wood.
My wife is pregnant right now and has had complications throughout and watching this had me so upset the whole way through. I couldn't imagine that decision. Talk to your spouses and cover EVERY possibility with them before something like this has a chance of happening first.
I can't choose which episode from the First season is the best one, they are all absolutely terrific.
The first season was an absolute masterpiece. In my opinion, it was a steady decline from there. It had its moments in later seasons and was solid, but it never approached the heights of season one.
@@jaywinger79 you can say that for most shows, just manage your expectations
House says Turn yourself into a disposable incubator. Strong writing.
That is how rep*blicans see children and women!
This goes so far in explaining why Jake was so stupid.
Crossover.
I like that the husband wants the wife alive first, it's much better than a motherless child
Terrible father. I pity any child who lives with parents who would pick each other over their own child.
@@StaymareI'm sure you'd say that to someone's face going through something like that. Not much empathy over here is there
@@daniellaw2348 I'm saying just about the same thing that House was saying about the wife's decision. Husband is picking the wife over the baby because that's what he wants. That's selfish behavior. Yeah I might phrase it a little nicer if I was saying it to someone's face, but everything I said is still true
@@Staymare and House also told the mother it was selfish to pick the child over herself.
@@jacksonsober8199 House is wrong.
Oh my, that poor man. What a brutal decision to have to make.
House has always gotta be the one to tell them.
Judith was on House??? I never knew.
remember what she told House?
The first husband was Allan
Lisbon from the mentalist too
This is a discussion I've had with my wife already. If I had to choose between her and a baby, I would choose her every time because i could not raise a child on my own, and I wouldn't have the will to go on. I've felt alone and abandoned for the first 26 years of my life, and I will lose all will to live if I end up that way again.
I would rather honor the babies memory and adopt if we can't do it again.
Does she accept that?
"I've, my, I, I, I, my, I, I've, my, I."
Tbh it sounds like you should absolutely not have children. Like please don’t. You’re incapable of raising a child without your wife and you’d be suicidal? You don’t know what’s going to happen in the future. Choosing her over a hypothetical baby, fair. Becoming a parent when you’re incapable of being one is a horrific thing to do to a kid
@@ran52475 Dude you are being insanely rude.
@@SeanHartnett-t8c ….my tone was perfectly polite. Do you mean to criticize me as being too harsh or judgmental? (Which would be ironic considering your own comment.) Revisiting it now, I actually think I was quite mild considering just how incredibly concerning op’s comment is. Maybe you don’t find it concerning, and finding anyone judging it unpleasant - but I’d vehemently disagree. Or maybe you think you should just never ever request someone not have children, regardless of them stating something that has horrifying implications for their children. Maybe it’d be more tactful to say “maybe you should reconsider having kids.”
Or maybe we should all be having more honest conversations about things like who’s incapable of being a safe parent, since the outcomes of not talking about it are 1000x worse, even if it does make you uncomfortable
Wanted to punch that cop out. She was clearly in need of medical attention, and he was acting like she was a wanted kidnapper or something.
It was clear to us. Wasn't quite so clear from his perspective. He should've been better, but it's not everyday somebody has a stroke while you're taking them out of a car for "drunk driving".
@@fahrenheit2101it was still pretty bloody obvious. Or dont you train police in basic first aid over there?
@@Plethorality Oh please, this isn't a "basic" first aid scenario. I made my point already. It's exceedingly rare for a situation like this to arise (like anything else in House for that matter), so for a cop to just interpret any weirdness as resistance/drunk people being drunk isn't that far fetched. Yes, a more attentive cop would have done better, but just because you're taught the signs of stroke doesn't at all mean you're taught to expect it. That comes with actual experience. People expect perfect law enforcers but they're still humans at the end of the day, and very few people are that quick on the uptake in their first experience of literally anything.
It's obvious to the medical drama viewer that the woman is having a medical problem - it is the LAST thing on any police officer's mind. And perhaps that attitude should change somewhat, but you can't change that humans generally don't account for unlikely scenarios.
@@fahrenheit2101 This show is produced in the US and the police there aren't as smart as portrayed by the American entertainment industry. Go to some other country and you will find out that to be a police officer you actually need an university level education which takes... years. Three at the very least and after that your education continues.. on the job. But I'll just say this that if you actually get someone killed as a police officer while that person wasn't intoxicated at all your career will be pretty much over.
"Yeah I know why you pulled me over officer" Malibu put the word out that you're "easy".
I feel personally, House's cane is the reason he is the way he is or however he is the adequately bitter and pessimist about life. It (the cane) enables him to be blunt , to represent the crappiness of the world. He pushes himself every single day to thrive in what he believes holds worth and not be sorry endlessly about himself. He supresses the pity shown to him by vicodin he labels this "Pain", to be noticed after his Cane. The cane shows the representation equivalent to of a person with a squinted eye to be his salient feature. This episode does this early in the show before all that rehab he goes through because the rehab shows Gregory pitying his own body to be addicted to something he is not supposed to. Vicodin is and was Dr. House's partner for life but when he is clean in the show before all that Cuddy fiasco in S7and after its shown to represent his loneliness. This explains why he never pops Vicodin when something ramps up his adrenaline. He has lost something he needs (Cuddy, His Ex, his team members, Dad, Dominika) so he decides to not fight a case he could have negotiated and goes to jail the show makes it clear that he is lonely and condemns relations of his colleagues as a reaction to it. In this episode he fights for what's not right for him as he had solved the puzzle for a diagnoses but he prevents somebody going down his path.
Most realistic scene in the whole series is a cop shoving around and hassling a citizen while a woman in distress goes ignored 10 feet away
He couldn't see, and didn't believe, the woman in distress. He doesn't have eyes in the camera, he didn't see as much off as the people watching the medical drama...
@jonathanbirch2022 Hardly. I just think the rage filled commenters are being dramatic and unrealistic. But fine, I'm bootlicking, sucking up to the law enforcement in a country I don't even reside in. I'm sure that checks out...
True😂
He's a hero!!
@jonathanbirch2022 I can still make vague comments on how humans generally tend to act, and how viewers of media have far more context than in universe characters...
wait i love the interaction between House and the other doc…like the only time he’s ever appeared deferential to another doc😂😂😂
There's this time, and I think he showed respect/deference to Chase's dad, who was a brilliant doctor in his own right.
When Thirteen told House “I know what it’s like to get this news and no one should have to get it from you.” - it’s so tragic when you remember scenes like this - the key to the character, what makes him so winning despite his flaws is he actually feels all of it - all the pain and desperation and tragedy - and this was one of the best examples of that - to see the clownish cartoon he turned into down the line is so tragic when you consider scenes like this
This synopsis is so acute that I can't possibly imagine watching this episode. It'd be too much.
I’m sure she could find a way to make it Alan’s fault.
Wow House... proud of you here
Poor guy, I couldn't imagine how hard he's taking that. He did the right thing for his son, but he's going to need therapy for this
Season 1 House is objectively the best.
This episode really was depressing
Now you know why Allan and Jake moved out. She was insufferable as a hetero and homo.
it still is
that's life
@@hel2727Actually that’s meddling executives. Volger is why she died
Wow. Both Rose and Judith actors have cameos in House MD.
what show?
@@doctorposting Two and a Half Men
She looks like going into a seizure 0:50 ..as an epileptic 😢
Allan is finally FREEEEEE!
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No more alimony!
Houses mean but he is so right. You really want to give your baby a slightly better chance of surviving at the cost of not being there to protect it from the really dangerous part-- the living part.
Judith!!
Can’t say I feel sorry for her. She made poor Alan’s live hell man.
Judith? I completely missed this episode.
Herb is going to be upset about this.
There was one more episode like this.. The mother died at the end..
I did not know Alan’s ex-wife was on House.
This is why I'm not big on kids. Making a father choose between the love of his life and a child should never fall on anyone
im not big on kids because of there lack of future, climate change and polution and so
The choice was really the child or neither
Not really much of a choice, as the wife was dying either way.
The love your life and you were children too. If you hate children because they cause tragedies you just hate the entire human race and living itself.
@@janklaas6885 go hide under your rock with the rest of the climate cultists
Idk about officer
Clearly u can see the baby belly from the car seat or when she walk out
And were husband is worry about her, the officer ignore the wife and focuses on stopping the baby while the husband is telling the officer to look closer at his wife, bruh
Ah yes the trolley problem but inaction everyone dies without you taking responsibility and action means you have 1 death and 1 save on your hands. Which is heavy handed cuz idky anyone who makes the arbiter decision gets the blame you're not holding the knife there's so many proxies involved in this it's really hard to lay blame at all on anyone.
Yep, exactly my thoughts!
@jonathanbirch2022 "Cancer is boring."
As a current preggo - the pregnant lady with Maternal Mirror Syndrome (Fetal Position episode) was being an idiot because she was only 21 weeks and her fetus was literally killing her while the abortion would have saved her life, BUT I can understand this patient's reasoning. Even with cancer treatments, her chances for survival were pretty low.
I am rewatching S1, just finished e10
I watch the House series on a loop all the time. LOVE IT!
Judith always problematic
Omg Judith
This would be heartbreaking
house said exactly what i was thinking
That officer is such a trigger!!!
cancer: not your fault.
procrastination: your fault.
Life is brutal and random. No rhyme or reason. The universe has no special design.
Oh there's plenty of rhyme. Not so much reason, that's a tricky one, but all the science that exists is exploring the rhyme of the universe. And there'll always be bits missing of course, but there's an impressive amount we do know, and often we take it for granted. We could've been like any other species and remained blissfully unaware of the nature of our existence - as it happens, we're the only intelligent life we know of, and as far as we're aware, we are the means by which the universe can explore itself (credit to Sagan for that quote). It's a beautiful thing, even if brutal at times.
As for special design, impossible to say.
Oh judith 😂
Judith being a self centred, husband torturer as always
Hahaha..
No Charlie to rescue Alan
have fun being "selfless" when it's you having small cell lung cancer while pregnant.
So Judith change her name because she lost herb daughter
At least in Britain, coppers say, "Are you alright, mate / love / my darling?".
so, was she talking about Alan?
Yes...before Jake transitioned.
Herb
Logically, saving the mother is the better choice. You can always make more kids.
Emotionally, I'm not sure. On one hand, that's my child in there. On the other hand, that's the love of my life that can make more kids. It's a tough choice.
And on this biggest hand, you never told me about your previous kid. Regardless of how sad it was, that's a pretty important thing to tell your husband.
In this case, her five year survival rate is 10-15% with chemo and radiation (it'd be 30% if they went with the trial drug, but she can't do that until 30 days after delivery*, at which point she might be dead already or her odds will be worse than now - and that's IF she even still qualifies for the trial drug at that point; the doctor was already wary of adding her to the study when he didn't know she was pregnant and she was going to start right away).
It's highly unlikely that she's having any more kids. That's not talking about what her quality of life would be with the cancer treatments.
Imagine the baby dies (20% chance of that) and/or has complications (quite likely), and the cancer treatment doesn't work anyway or only gives her a few more months. To be dying, undergoing cancer treatments and to know that your baby died or will have lifelong effects when you might have been able to stop that...
I'm all against treating women as "incubators" and it should always, ALWAYS be the mother's choice what to do in cases like this - but I honestly don't think House is right in this case when he's pushing her towards having the C-section, given how crappy her survival odds are even with the treatments.
*Not mentioned in the clip but, surprise, surprise, a C-section is a surgery that disqualifies you from the drug trial for a period of time).
Not necessarily, the mother is going to die in 5 years, that child will not have much time with her regardless. The chemo and radiation she will need will probably make it near impossible to have another child. So you increase the child's chances of survival as much as you can, taking the choice that has the highest odds of long term survival. I think it says a lot about House's character that he was willing to roll the dice on great odds to save both, but he ended up at saving the baby when everything went wrong.
I don’t even like or want kids but “You can always make more kids” is such a weird, inhumane thing to say lmao
Like, if we’re using the same logic, save the kid because you can always get another wife, but even if that’s true, we shouldn’t treat humans like they’re replaceable \.
How many times in the shows do they get them to OK some thing without signing anything and without any witnesses??? Let’s be realistic!
The show seemed to have a big issue with the idea that people's marriages could handle a child dying.
Don't you dare blame that child. Don't you ever dare.
Are you okay?
😂😂😂😂😂@@l.a.3479
You tell em hahaha
@@boogieyib1773😂
What?
Such a jackass policeman in the beginning. Not worthy of his badge
How so??? He might have saved you and your loved ones from a deadly crash.
I love how people have been shoved into devices for sonlong that they can no longer differentiate between real life and tv shows. Set the device down and go outside.
Yeah, thank god, its just a show and these kind of people definitely don't exist.@@RunningAWOL411
The sound of children screaming has been removed.
@@RunningAWOL411and yet there are people who act like this irl. It’s tv vs irl and yet tv shows can accurately portray real life people. Maybe get past your 2nd grade education and learn how to compare and analyze
If he had chosen his wife and she lived but the baby died, she never would have forgiven him.
Lol, if this was real life, he would have gotten shot, and she'd wait a good hour for help and die.
Nol; he is white. The police officer might have handuffed him but he would not have shot him.
He would not have been shot. *Maybe* if he was black there'd be a chance, but even then. Some of y'all are way too dramatic.
@@fahrenheit2101you may want to brush up on police brutality and ignorant law enforcement.
Wouldn't Lambert-Eaton syndrome put the baby at risk, since, y'know, body attacking cells inside itself? I feel like even waiting to have the baby is an ill-advised move.
I hate policeman who bully without .. consequences
I'll just add: when you say "Johnny Harris is at a turning point in his life" or insinuating that he's on the brink of radicalization. I don't necessarily think that's true. We don't have any reason to believe that, and he's a liberal, he's an idealist, he doesn't necessarily look at material conditions. Let's err on the side of caution.
That’s what she gets for lying about having a child and hiding it from her husband
Her name isn't Naomi it's Judith. 😅
Oh it was JUDITH!!!
Judith really went downhill after Alan
Judith two and a half men
Judith getting what she deserves
I bet House already did the c section. Bet on himself getting the dad to say yes
Alan look so different this episode..
Still don't believe Charlie never tapped that. Even Niles nailed Lilith before Frazier knew anything.
This is hard to watch holy
I know it's stupid, But the opening clip was basically:
Call an Ambulance, CALL AN AMBULANCE!
But not for me!
Judith?? Does everyone in this comment section mean Lilith or am I missing something lol
Are you thinking of Lilith from Cheers? The actress in this episode played Judith in Two and a Half Men.
The actress who played Lilith is way prettier.
Wouldn't be the first time.
Save yourself please! some women think they are sacred by dying to save their baby, please! After she died, husband will find new girl, kid will call other woman as mum, if they prefer this destiny, proceed the suicidal idea 😂 worst, the child won't even remember her 😅
Because it’s about genuine love. Not about what you want. It’s self sacrifice so another can live, not suicide. Yes, it’s heroic to save your cold before yourself.
Did you not hear that she was going to die anyway? She would only live for 5 years if she was lucky, and a few months if they were being more realistic. I think most people would have an emotional attachment to their 29 week old baby and would chose to die for them if they knew they were dying anyway. There was no scenario in which she’d win.
to save baby helps to live &or die peacefully. a hiddN +. btw., peace is happiness, ++🖐
You're drunk
Wilson says "the five-year survival rate is 10 to 15 percent, which is why we have to start radiation and chemo [immediately]." So, 10 to 15 percent WITH rad & chem immediately after diagnosis? (Those can't be overall stats. Without diagnosis or treatment five-year survival would presumably be zero?) Point is, if dismal stat is EVEN WITH treatment, of course the woman was right in wanting to postpone treatment by a week, or make it rather two. And there WAS SOMETHING HEROIC in her choice. HOUSE AND WILSON WERE WRONG.
P.S., the hero part is limited by the fact that she was, at one level, only choosing to save herself, genetically. This wasn't self sacrifice for a stranger.
Should have hired an actor who could shed tears while his wife is dying.
Some people are shocked enough to be unable to cry when they receive traumatic news.
His performance was literally one of the best, what are you talking about
If they needed tears they would’ve used Glycerin drops if the actor couldn’t cry.
I would he care if a baby lives and why is he trying to save the baby since he doesn’t care if people end it hell he doesn’t care about people lives mentally at all (6:05. That’s just an example)
House cares about solving the puzzle.
Which he can't do if they refuse to be treated.
Police in america is a joke
The patient would surely have an obsterician examination and consultation. Odds for the baby are not sonething for a diagnostician or oncologist to just look up a table f or infant durviival rate. The actual survival rate could be enormously diiferent. House certainly has som e fake medicine but it is ttotalky lsme to not have Obs.
"Sorry your wife is dying, lets lump you with a baby so you can try and raise it on your own in this modern economy..."
This is a stupid episode that exposes a myth. They would have to do a c-section anyway to either birth the baby or “dispose” of it. This is evil and a non-issue. First do no harm-any doctor worth his life wouldn’t allow this
It's funny how it's always wife who leaves the marriage after the child dies.
I hope some misandrists watch this and blame the men from the show for the mom dying... cuz that's how they think.