The Surprising Cost Behind Wall Mount Garage Door Motors
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- Wall mount garage door opener motors are great for various reasons. But despite the more money that's involved with these motors many do take into account the value to them. The surprising cost behind these wall mount motors might cause sticker shock.
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Installation of a wall-mount garage door opener is so much easier than a track mount. It's definitely DIY-able!
I installed two in my 3 car. Super easy to do if you know how use tools and can read instructions, you got this!
Based on a lot of videos on YT, and your channel, I ended up going with a wall mount opener even though it was close to twice the cost of a traditional motor. What I am really enjoying so far is the quietness, the newer technology of built in wifi control - we have a bonus room above the garage where people sleep, and this has been HUGE for quietness.
My only issue is that the LED lights are so expensive to buy additional units to connect to the sending unit. $70 for an LED unit that comes pre-bundled with the opener.
I DIY'd my installation using the manufacturer's YT installation video - just kept hitting pause on it a few times and matched up parts to parts and steps to steps. I'm a technology person by trade but I have done enough home DIY stuff to handle this. I like it far better than the traditional trolley mounted system because there's less moving parts, no messy greasy chain to have tension on, no belt to wear out. Our old unit the chain cog literally snapped off because of the constant use.
This wall mount design reminds me far more of a single motor electric desk - I can see in the future these coming with synchronous dual motors for bigger heavier garage doors.
Thank you for sharing your feedback!
Muy bien las recomendaciones y las instrucciones,Thanks!
I installed a Liftmaster by myself 7 years ago in my house and it was easy. Just follow the instructions and I am a bookkeeper by trade.
Sound advice. Thanks for the feedback.
You lost me when you said it needed to be professionally installed. I installed mine yesterday and the job was done in a couple of hours, including the removal of the old opener. The only modification for me was running a new wire from the indoor switch since the old one terminated in the center of the garage.
DIYers should not be discouraged from trying this install themselves. It’s not difficult.
Thanks for the feedback!
Congratulations on your installation. Yes, I think most DIYers will have no trouble installing this opener. But most doors systems might have underlying issues that a DIYer may not easily identify. At any rate, if the door is properly balanced and serviced the opener should work fine.
Installation of wall-mount opener is so so much easier than track mount, the only problem most ppl run in to is a near by wall plug.
Thanks for the feedback!
Yes and I think after a certain level of muscle memory, the installation process becomes a lot quicker. Yet there are so many people that do not have the desire to do their own installation. Most prefer to pay to have it done.
Big thing is in my 1970's ranch house, the ceilings are like 7'10" in the garage. The way the house is built, the way the lot is shaped, the garage is on a lower level with a rec room above the garage, so to make this work they had to have a kind of low ceiling in the garage(however it is HUGE, you could park a Miata and a Cadillac Fleetwood on the one side). Well the only way to fit a full sized truck was to go with one of these wall mounted units, I needed that extra few inches of height.
Awesome! That's a great application for a wall mount motor.
I just took my old Liftmaster and converted it to a wall mount with a 26Tooth sprocket on the 1" spring shaft. It still uses the force protection and eye safety system. The only downsize is that if the down force is set too high, the shaft could remain turning and spin the cables off the cable drums. Did it for the cost of a sprocket and 410 chain, $35.
Brilliant!
Tell me, did you have someone to assist you with the installation?
Did LiftMaster provide you the instructions on how to install the wall mount opener with a separate sprocket?
@@sosgds They did not. I did all the modifications and installation. I had a little trouble calculating door travel based on the old door opener 8 tooth sprocket. Had to calculate the sprocket ratio in order to make door travel enough. 1:3.5
Would you recommend the Genie over the Chamberlain RJO101?
I replaced 3 trolley openers with the Genie wall mount openers and had no problem installing. Was not hard or confusing.
Thank you for your feedback!
That wall mount is such a simple concept I'm surprised they weren't invented first. 🤔
That's a great point. As they gain popularity I can see more garages with this tech over the conventional trolley opener.
So you’re saying that Ican lift the track higher with a wall mount gdo? The reason I’m asking is that I want to put a lift on my FJ Cruiser but I wouldn’t be able to get it in my garage if I lifted it.
Great info. Thanks. What is the average cost or range to replace and install a Wall mount unit and also replacing the torsion spring, cables and rod?
Thank you for the question. It will vary from area to area. Most wall mount openers are installed at an average of $900+. A new torsion springs system will fall anywhere between $800+. Can't speak for my colleagues but pricing will vary on the specific needs of your garage door configuration.
@@sosgds Thanks! Trying to understand why it costs so much to install/ replace the torsion spring.
Wish I seen this video yesterday before I returned my genie wall mount. I have the Wayne Dalton door and had picked up that adapter, but you need 6" above the bar and I only have 3" to the ceiling. didn't know you could pick up those bars separately. I have wanted one of those wall mounts for the last year since I started rebuilding my garage after the fire we had two years ago. where can you get one of those bars from, and is it worth the price and hassle?
Sorry to hear about your situation.
When you talk about the bars, what do you mean exactly?
@@sosgds the torsion spring bar.
Wayne Dalton anything is expensive but cheap junk.
We always do torsion conversions replacing that TorqueMaster crud.
Great product information. How would you rate the chamberlain rjo101? For residential? They are currently selling for $600 Canadian. This would be my first wall mounted opener. Hows Reliability of chamberlain wall mounted units? Keep up the great content! 👍🏻
Thank you for the support and kind words.
I have yet to review the garage door RJO101. But it's exactly the same as the LiftMaster 98022. My concern is that with the omission of the cable tension monitor the motor is very sensitive to the door balance. If you do install the motor I would plan on checking your door balance first.
@sosgds awesome! The home is going to be a new built. Hopefully, my first ever side mounted garage door opener won't disappoint!
I am replacing (2) Wayne Dalton iDrive motors and am very interested in a wall mount solution to maintain the aesthetic. I have a vendor who will do the TorqueMaster conversion, but he says my 12" radius track isn't compatible (or at very least, recommended) for use with wall mount solutions. What do you think?
Hello. Excellent question. There should be no issue with a wall mount opener to work with your 12" track assembly. Did they offer to convert the track assembly to a 15" track radius?
No, I don't think my low ceiling would accommodate the larger radius. It appears they believe the 12" radius perhaps provides too much resistance when trying to move the door, but I'm hoping it will be fine. I have enough space to put a ceiling mounted trolley system, but I'm used to the clean look and don't want to add an overhead mount. @@sosgds
@@robwatson7401 If you have the 12" radius you should be fine. They might want to adjust the tracks so that there's a slight tilt to allow gravity to close the door easier.
So, I’m installing the B6753T this weekend. Should I be worried about my door just being opened forcibly without track locks?? What is considered force? A simple guy pushing up on the door?
Hello. Great questions. But no ... you shouldn't be worried. The arm to the garage door motor will keep the door from opening from the outside. Yet, some thieves have broken through the garage by disengaging the trolley. I have a video in the work on this very subject. There are some hacks you could do keep the trolley from disengaging. Hope this helps.
@@sosgds can’t wait to see the video! Thanks for the info
Hey. Sosgds is correct here, but I would like to add that if a criminal wants in they are getting in. I wouldn't worry about it too much as there's not alot you can do about it if they want to get in while you're not home. If your house has windows there's keys to your house all over the place, they are called heavy throwable objects.
Doesn't the trolley motor keep the door closed unless the string is pulled and the trolley disconnected? You can't open them without the button.
Correct. The J-arm to trolley openers keep the door from opening from the outside. That is just one benefit of trolley openers.
new house with big out building. Total of 5 doors in near proximity. Any solutions for 5 doors? Can MyQ manage 5 doors?
Sounds like a very fun project. Yes MyQ can handle 5 doors easily.
If my door stays up by itself when opened fully, what will bring it down? I ask this question because my door opens nice but when I push button to close door ,drum uncoils wire . Thank you
Hello. There is an issue with the springs. Are you operating the garage door with a wall mount garage door opener?
Raise the track so it will let door go out
They look like easier to install than the track versions. Then again, installers need the work.
Actually, wall mount openers are typically harder to install and much less reliable compaired to overhead openers.
Santiago - what's your pick in 2024 for the best wall-mount garage door opener?
Great question! My choice is still the Genie 6170.
Most reviews I've read say these are easy to install, not sure why you say they need to be professionally installed.
Agreed. Installed my Genie wall mounted opener very easily with no prior experience. Very diy friendly if you have the proper torsion spring installed from the prior opener.
@@jreder25 What if you don't have a prior opener? I have a manual door with the original torsion spring, do electric openers need a different spring?
Thank you for the comment! I know there are a number DIY wall mount motors to choose from. The Genie 6172 is a great motor. The challenge is making sure your torsion spring system is plum straight and that the balance to the garage door is optimal. In most cases dealing with a torsion spring system is not easy and not recommended for every homeowner. Thus do your homework because paying a professional might save you time and peace of mind.
@JRP3 I have no idea. In this instance maybe follow @sosgds advice and hire a professional :)
Just installed the 6170 today. Luckily, my door is well balanced, torsion springs are in great shape, and the torsion bar was straight. The opener doesn't wobble at all. So I'm pretty confident I have a good install. Unit is very quiet and smooth opening and closing. Very happy so far. Thanks for all the advice on this channel.
Wall mounts work better than belt drives on wood doors. The newer belt drives really do not like wood doors
Thank you for the feedback! I have yet to try the wall mount motors on custom wood doors. I prefer the heavy duty chain drive motors with I - Beam rails.
You know it costs more by reading the price tag on the shelf. $500 as opposed to to $229. Plus, you will need a receptacle within 6 feet of the new opener. There is no surprise
You are a bit full of yourself. I as well as many others can Easily install these wall-mount garage door openers.
Thanks for the comment. I'm really trying to do my best to be sincere. I realize that many can do this install easily. Yet that can't be said for 90 year old grannies and families with special needs. Some of these openers require work to the torsion spring system. But your opinion is noted.
Stupid click bait title.
Thanks for the comment!
Genie B6172H Wall Mount Smart Garage Door Opener is now Amazon Key compatible and has been working flawlessly for a year! :)
Thank you for sharing your experience! Genie is catching up to LiftMaster.