for someone who owns the a6500, i feel like this is the best upgrade for me. i’ve been wanting to upgrade for a while to full frame but this kinda took all of my attention away, becuase it provides me an opportunity to upgrade my camera & still keep my lenses that i use for my a6500
@@ciudadanosdelcosmos fx 30 can take pretty good pictures. But if you do photography and spend more time taking pictures than filming video you should get the A74 FX30 is cinema line it's for videographers.
The A7IV overheats FOR SURE when filming at 4k60p for extended periods even in cool temps, or in the summer heat after a short period of time. And yes, even with the mandatory "High Temp" setting turned on in the settings. This is the sole reason we're immediately selling our 3 A7IV cameras and have purchased 3 replacement FX30 cameras. In about 30 weddings this year, we've had at least one of our 3 cameras overheat and stop 4 different times (even in cool rooms) and at least one camera flash the overheating warning maybe 15 or so times over the year. Otherwise, it's a great camera. Our A7siii has never overheated when filming at 4k60 and I trust the FX30 won't either.
@@Panther-no not really. Cameras don’t vary enough due to manufacturing process to have such a degree of difference that one specific model would vary so much. This would literally go against manufacturing process and would lead to high fail rates. Every a7r4 have roughly the same temperature tolerance and to think that one would be much more or much less superior than the reference is absurd.
@@henrytep8884 well they release cameras in batches,this happens all the time with tech products,what planet are you living on..if a product is released and it has slight inconsistencies,the future releases of those products generally get sorted out...and why are you talking about the a7r4 am talking about the a7iv and so is this video.
@@henrytep8884 There are definitely bad batches and Sony simply didn't care, it's that simple. There are plenty of people such as myself who are shooting 1-hour+ interviews with no problem at all, others who have overheating problems just by scrolling the menu options for a couple of minutes. So either people are lying, some of the settings in the camera are bugged causing overheating issues or some batches are simply defective.
As an A74 & A1 owner (video use 100%) it’s hard to believe that I am so excited about the prospect of receiving this humble APSC camera next month! Why not FX3? True utility and versatility on the road requires lighter lenses, USB streaming, focus breathing comp, focus mapping and 6K downsampling! Sony should develop an 8K APSC FX video shooter for under $9K with GM fast lenses and higher dynamic range.
Kinda frustrating that you can't record in 6k. I wouldn't use that most of the time, but if I wanted to be able to crop bigtime, track an object, or use a color picker, the 6k footage not downsampled would work much much better. Using the GH6 in 5.7k all those mentioned above ( also green screen is much easier to get a good pick) work without fuss compared to the internally downsampled footage. I do agree that this camera is perfect for the majority of content creators, but hopefully it improves a lot with firmware updates. Could be even better!
I am a Sony APSC camera user for work, because the price rate here is quite low for photo and video work (at least for my city area), so it is very difficult for me to use a fullframe camera, realistically, the payback will be very long if I invest in a fullframe camera and the lenses😂. This FX30 might be a good step for me with features that are futureproof and can be used for a very long time before needing to upgrade the camera again, and of course without having to spend more on lenses. Thank you for the good review and field testing, it really helped me in making decisions. I'm currently using the a6000 and a6400, and plan to trade my a6000 for the FX30, so the a6400 for photos, and the FX30 for video I think it can meet all my needs.🤔
the biggest confusion is full-frame is a more secure and future proof investment and specially the low light is a big difference for video people and FX30 still have the dancing pixels in the shadows!
For years I used APS-C and always dreamed of having a full-frame camera. My first full frame was the A7III and now I have the A7IV. I have purchased a small collection of full-frame lenses so my use case is not leading me towards the Fx30. If anything it would be the FX3, as I am sold on full frame and the sony super 35 mode gives me that extra punch that I got from APS-C. As stated earlier when I had APS-C I dreamed of a full-frame body. I don't find myself dreaming of APS-C at all.
@@switchunboxing To be honest it was my use case. Before Sony I had a Caon 7D mark III and the first lens I purchased for it was the Canon 24-105. That was a full-frame lens and at the time I was shooting my kids sports. The 1.6 crop factor was great for the extra reach. So as time went on I purchased a few more lenses which were all full frame based on the amount of FF available vs APS-C. When I switched to Sony I was able to still use all of those Canon lenses using the Sigma mc-11 adapter. The added bonus was that Sony FF now made all my old Canon glass wider, plus the added bonus of the super35 mode of extra reach.
I’ve been debating between the A7iii & A7iv. I like the menus of the IV and flip screen but I’m seeing lots of overheating issues. Have you had any trouble with yours?
@@project_poor_runnerthe A7IV runs hot with video, there's just no way around it. I don't record for long sessions so it's not an issue but I do have a fx3 which gets 99% of game time when I'm shooting.
@@markthecre8tor I’m looking to replace my IPhone 14 Pro Max with a mirrorless for car/overland & portrait photography and video and looking at the 24-105 mm G lense. Which one would you pick the A7iii, A7IV or FX3? Thanks for your help.
5 months later after watching your video, I bought the A7IV for $2000 open box instead of the FX30. The results in low light is surprisingly good when compare to the FX30.
“Cinema Line”, “Netflix Approved”, “Timecode”, “4K120p”, “Tally Lights”. Cinema Line is a just branding. We must admit that we don’t really film for Netflix or even about submitting to Netflix. Timecode feature is cool but again, we don’t really shoot for Netflix and if you need to sync, do it manually as its easy. Most of us don’t shoot 4K in 120 all the time. The tally light situation can be solved by being attentive to details and checking the back of the camera to know you are rolling. Will I buy it? Nope. I have the A7S3 and A74 and getting the FX30 is a downgrade in my opinion.
If you have the fx3 sony a7siii or a7iv and still wanting the fx30, chances are 90% of us don't even use the cameras to even 50% of their potential. And we are suffering from severe GAS and FOMO (gear acquisition syndrome. Fear of missing out)
Yes and no. In theory, hybrid shooting shooting sounds great, but for some of us, it’s difficult to keep switching settings from photo to video. I recognize you can set them independently on the Sony, but I’m finding it’s just easier to have one set up for stills and the other for video.
@@RandumbTech Bro.. I'm using a smartphone right now.. I always change from photo to video mode everyday.. It's a MINIMAL issue that I wouldn't even consider when buying a point-and-shoot, lol..
I’ve watched all your videos thus far since release date along with 20 plus other videos. I pre ordered mine the first day and beyond excited and no regrets. I shoot real estate, gym promos, weddings, interviews etc all in one for my small business Diesel Media Productions. You have been a very large help with getting the right information I needed. Especially when it came to selling my A7iii to upgrade to the IV. I am hybrid and have only needed one camera. However as I am getting busier, more requests. I am in need of a second camera for video purposes. I personally utilize the crop mode in 4K 60 a lot. Especially using my 14-24 2.8 sigma that I mainly bought for real estate. I use it a lot now for quick reels and cropping in gives me a good range in the areas I needed it. Looking forward to adding the FX30, I am far from worried about the crops, as if you have right lenses and it’s a 2nd camera you should be perfectly fine. I believe you can only complain if you’re trying to have the exact same framing/ depth of feild in two shots but I believe the purpose is to have two different looks when doing that. So I don’t see why all these people been complaining about it. I can’t wait to use mine and now looking for next lens to add. Just figuring out do I get a prime or a zoom 😅
7:15 Disagree. Full frame lenses are not necessarily heavier or more expensive than apsc, and in some cases, cheaper if you account for crop factor and third-party support. You can get something as cheap as Samyang 18 2.8 (145g / $300 for 12 f/1.8 in apsc) or 16-35 f/4 (380g / $1200 for 10-24 f/2.8 in apsc).
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema Not a lot more expensive like you mentioned. Even if you spend a bit more, you get more in return than the price difference. At least that's the current market.
Great video Jason. Speaking of photo capabilities, I just watched a video by Mark Galer who pointed out extracting frames from a 120p video instead of taking photos with the FX30
I was going nuts trying to figure out why I was getting so many fb messenger notifications. Turns out it was just your video lol. Great content as usual man, always appreciate your insight.
One important point you've looked over is that the A7IV has a S35 crop mode. And in that mode, the rolling shutter is actually slightly better than the FX30. So overall that tips the hat in A7IV's favour as it can do FF with better low-light (albeit with poor RS) and you can switch it to S35 if you want extra reach and low RS. Best of both worlds. And its also a good hybrid cam with strong photo capabilities. I don't understand the hype around the FX30 honestly: no EVF, no mechanical shutter, non stacked APS-C sensor. I don't even see a detail increase in between it and the non oversample 4K from the A7S3/FX3/FX6 sensor. I'm not an A7IV user by the way but I honestly think that the A7IV is better value when compared to the FX30. Compared to the FX3 though, FX30 wins hands down in the value department.
Good points about the A7iv’s crop mode. I’ve sometimes shot in that mode for the simple reason that I have an APSC zoom (the 18 105 for my crop sensor bodies, but am loathe to buy a ff zoom for several reasons: cost, weight, and little need for that category of lens on a regular basis. So I’ve shot sometimes with that lens on a ff body and was pleased with the results - only realizing later that the footage was also devoid of rolling shutter. It’s an economical yet practical workaround.
Is fx30 a good choice for wildlife videography? As wildlife requires panning too much for moving target. But 4k 120p is a cherry on the top for wildlife videography, specially fast moving birds or animals. And with the crop factor it can give a great advantage for 200-600 lens.
Jason, for me, as a twitch streamer full time and for doing vlogs, what you recomend me to buy? i was very interessed on zv-e1 but i understood that is impossible to use it as a webcam for streams, Its the a7iv the best option? i can get a a7iv NEW for just 1800€
The FX30 is super impressive, but I'm gonna stick with my A7IV. All of it's issues are manageable, but I love the ability to crop in using APS-C mode plus clear image zoom. Definitely would like for the rolling shutter performance to be better, but the video I get from it is still incredible. Also, if I want a good set of light lenses to take with my full frame camera, I'll get the coming soon Tamron 20-40mm and the Tamron 28-75mm. Great options for traveling full frame.
The new 20-40mm Tamron has all but pushed me into buying a A74. Im currently a Nikon DSLR shooter (yes even in video 😆) that lens pretty much covers all my lenses except my 50mm - but I reckon with cropping or clear image zoom I can get round that 10mm.
A7 IV's rolling shutter in APS-C is not that different from FX30. I feel like people should be comparing A7 IV in APS-C w/ FX30 in APS-C because to me, A7 IV is a great video shooter if you think of it as an amazing Super 35 shooter that also can shoot great full frame video on a tripod.
@@mbvglider 100%. Honestly, I wouldn't be swapping out my camera for the FX30. Only thing I miss is the 4K 120fps. But if you're willing to cough up $200 bucks for Topaz Labs video enhancer, you can get that sorted as well.
One more plus for the A7IV is it has variable shutter, which means you can eliminate flicker from LED lights and projectors. This feature is indispensable when shooting video at an unknown location. Sometimes you can reduce flicker by setting shutter to 1/50 or 1/60, depending on which country you live in, but sometimes you need micro control over shutter in order to fully eliminate it. The FX6, A7IV and A1 have variable shutter. The FX3, FX30 and A7sIII do not. I was doing a 3 camera shoot a few days ago with my FX6, A7IV and A7sIII, when during a test rehearsal I noticed the stage lighting was flickering really badly. I was able to micro adjust the shutter on the FX6 and A7IV to eliminate it, but not on the A7sIII. I ran out and bought another A7IV to save the shoot. A7sIII has now been demoted to my D cam.
@@flaviotaneli9138 Really? For video? Variable Shutter is different from Anti-Flicker which is exclusive to Photo mode. Can you confirm that it is possible to set the shutter on the FX-30 or A7sIII to say, 50.2 or 50.7, for example?
@@mediakobo I've seen so many videos on the FX30 for the past days that I won't be able to tell you which but I'm 100% positive I've seen 49.8 or 50.2 fps in one of them !
I’m torn between these two, I am a photographer first but I already have the a7riv for that. Fx30 would give me a better video camera but lacking on the stills side the a7iv will give me a solid combo of both.
Having a second hybrid body is a good idea. You can always put tele on one and wide on the other. A7 IV is a great hybrid body and is more ergonomic than any other Sony because of the improved dial layout.
Thank You for this great video. I think, sharpness and low light capabilities of the a 7 IV are more important for me than cinematic features of the fx30. Thank You. Best regards, Kai the bee filmer from Kiel (Northern Germany).
Great videos man. Always giving content on what I'm thinking about with considerations to switching to a Sony setup. Personally going to be leaning towards the A7iv since I'm a hybrid shooter, but the FX30 is very tempting for solely video shooting. I think the A7iv will suite my needs perfectly though. Thanks again for all the content. Literally the perfect videos for all of my thoughts and considerations!
Great job on the video Jason! Thanks for making it. The FX30 makes me think that Sony is going to release an A7000 soon. Betting it will have the sensor from the FX30 (but without the Cine modes) put into an A7IV chassis with the new screen from the A7RV. Same retail as the FX30.
There is a sale on Sony cameras in Japan right now. I tried both the FX30, A7IV, and A7Cii. I honestly can't decide which is best. I am interested in both photography and shooting videos for RUclips/instagram. I want a camera that can shoot 4k 10 bit 4:2:2 60p and can significantly outperform my iPhone 15 pro max. I am leaning toward the A7Cii but am unsure of the video capabilities. What do you think?
I've been shooting home video for twenty years on various cameras (now a good collection). The FX30 is what I've been looking for for a long time. I will miss the viewfinder and ND filters. But I guess I'll go with it, since Sony obviously has no plans for an AX-800. A lot of people deal with depth of field, but for home video it's good to see the background as well. And for special cases when I really want to separate the foreground from the background, sony has its glasses.
I already bought the FX30. It's a very good camera and I'm learning how to use it and how to set it up. I bought Sony E PZ 10-20 mm f/4 G (great) and Tamron AF 17-70 mm f/2.8 (I'm not entirely sure). I think about the ND filters. I am still learning. It is different than with cameras like AX100 or AX700. I'm also considering the Sony E 15 mm f/1.4 G for filming at home or in places with very poor lighting.
Could you tell us whick camera (plus lens) is better for football player shooting from at least 50 meters away? I want to see every his movement, drilling trick or body fake movement, not the whole team and I want to film him in slow motion. Thanks in advance!
Pocket 4k and FX30 are very different cameras here. Way more versatility in the FX30 but the pocket 4k offers a nice image. Have to consider lenses and auto focus and the whole sony ecosystem
Sometimes when a camera is new, you can still use programs like Adobe Digital Negative Converter to convert your unsupported ARW files to DNG and then process the those in Lightroom. Footage looks great btw!
what would you recoomend for a studio setting? I want high quality studio footage that looks profesional and having a hard time choosing between the two... I'm video-centric but feels weird to buy an aps-c camera when I can get a full frame...
I have an a7iv but I'm thinking about getting an FX30 for a secondary body for video because having to purchase another a7iv is way too much money, I have some good Full Frame glass so I don't have to invest on APS-C lenses
I’m just getting into videography/cinematography coming from photographer background. Not going to use my photo camera for video so should I get the fx30 or save for the A7r5?
What was the exact lens you used for the fx30 when shooting the boxing video. I know it was a prime lens but what was the exact one. GREAT VIDEO BY THE WAY.
I appreciate you not raving on about the sensor size in comparison to a lot of other creators out there. Heard guys say FX30 is for a beginner filmmaker because of the sensor size by default for example and that type of bollocks lol.
After recently purchasing the A7iV and having constant overheating issues - regardless of internal temp settings, flip screen open, external power, battery, airplane mode, firmware updates. No matter what, it will overheat after 15-20 mins. I'm contemplating returning it and getting this FX30. But does it overheat?!?!?!
Hello! I have an important question that is decisive to buy this camera, it will seem silly but I want to know if it is capable of recording to an external SSD... And I am not talking about Atmos recorders but about connecting an SSD hard drive like other blackmagic cinema cameras , since most hybrid cameras can't, like the a7iv... thanks
Jason how does the FX30 rear screen compare to the A74 rear screen, I can see its almost twice the resolution, but is it brighter as its your only option outside.
This is an awesome review, thank you. If I may ask a question because I'm a bit confused about the timecode in the A7IV. I see the settings in the menu VIDEO ICON \\ TC/UB. Is this different than the timecode feature you are talking about? I've heard others saying A7IV doesn't have timecode too and I believe you. I don't have experience with this so I'm curious if the setting I mentioned is something different. I can't find info.
For me in the UK its got to be the A74, its only £60 more expensive. Also the new Tamron 20-40mm is so exciting for me as I currently use a 20mm 24mm 35mm and 50mm, so one lens pretty much covers all these focal lengths.
I also ordered the 20-40mm. I could use that about half of the time, and the rest of the time, I can use the 35-150mm. What impresses me more than anything is that it's so frickin' small. Also, it has very high magnification ratio and is very affordable. Though nobody has tested it, Tamron's zooms have been so stellar recently that I'm fine trusting them on this one. You can always punch in with a little bit of Clear Image Zoom or crop mode to get more range out of the 20-40mm, too.
Can you take a picture with the FX30 ? I mean a raw file picture or a jpeg, like with A7s III. I know it's a cine camera but I can't find the information.
PLEASE PLEASE I have a request. Can you please provide a download link to some fx30 and a7iv log sample footage so that we can try to push the images at home. It will help is a lot to make an informed decision. Please
Is the autofocus system in both of these cameras both the same or does the FX30 have more advanced autofocus technology (i.e., newer generation)? Thanks!
It gives someone a general idea. It is just fun. Cinematic is just a word. it doesn't mean anything. full frame isn't always the "look" someone is after.
rolling shutter test is in another video. But if I tested this, I would have to discuss the A7IV has now less MP count and is not downsampled anymore which produces a different image
As a sports videographer. I am tossing up between the A7siii and the new FX30. Currently don't have the $$$ for either of them but confused as which one to get when I can upgrade. Currently using a Panasonic Camcorder that shoots 4k at 60fps.
for someone who owns the a6500, i feel like this is the best upgrade for me. i’ve been wanting to upgrade for a while to full frame but this kinda took all of my attention away, becuase it provides me an opportunity to upgrade my camera & still keep my lenses that i use for my a6500
Me too! That's the move I'm making! :) The 6500 will be my secondary and I'll keep my lenses to use with the FX30.
Late here,,but i thought the same ,but i was wrong, seeing tons of videos,,fx30 is for video,,not for photography...i will buy a7iv
@@ciudadanosdelcosmos fx 30 can take pretty good pictures. But if you do photography and spend more time taking pictures than filming video you should get the A74
FX30 is cinema line it's for videographers.
The A7IV overheats FOR SURE when filming at 4k60p for extended periods even in cool temps, or in the summer heat after a short period of time. And yes, even with the mandatory "High Temp" setting turned on in the settings. This is the sole reason we're immediately selling our 3 A7IV cameras and have purchased 3 replacement FX30 cameras. In about 30 weddings this year, we've had at least one of our 3 cameras overheat and stop 4 different times (even in cool rooms) and at least one camera flash the overheating warning maybe 15 or so times over the year. Otherwise, it's a great camera. Our A7siii has never overheated when filming at 4k60 and I trust the FX30 won't either.
absolutely recommend the fx30 is you're running the camera non stop for hours
I have filmed a wedding with over 5hours of footage all in 4k and it was in summer and it never over heated, it all depends on your individual camera.
@@Panther-no not really. Cameras don’t vary enough due to manufacturing process to have such a degree of difference that one specific model would vary so much. This would literally go against manufacturing process and would lead to high fail rates. Every a7r4 have roughly the same temperature tolerance and to think that one would be much more or much less superior than the reference is absurd.
@@henrytep8884 well they release cameras in batches,this happens all the time with tech products,what planet are you living on..if a product is released and it has slight inconsistencies,the future releases of those products generally get sorted out...and why are you talking about the a7r4 am talking about the a7iv and so is this video.
@@henrytep8884 There are definitely bad batches and Sony simply didn't care, it's that simple. There are plenty of people such as myself who are shooting 1-hour+ interviews with no problem at all, others who have overheating problems just by scrolling the menu options for a couple of minutes. So either people are lying, some of the settings in the camera are bugged causing overheating issues or some batches are simply defective.
The fx 30 is the absolute pick for the video shooter, especially for less money. Hard to beat the a74 for hybrid shooters though.
absolutely
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As an A74 & A1 owner (video use 100%) it’s hard to believe that I am so excited about the prospect of receiving this humble APSC camera next month! Why not FX3? True utility and versatility on the road requires lighter lenses, USB streaming, focus breathing comp, focus mapping and 6K downsampling! Sony should develop an 8K APSC FX video shooter for under $9K with GM fast lenses and higher dynamic range.
Kinda frustrating that you can't record in 6k. I wouldn't use that most of the time, but if I wanted to be able to crop bigtime, track an object, or use a color picker, the 6k footage not downsampled would work much much better. Using the GH6 in 5.7k all those mentioned above ( also green screen is much easier to get a good pick) work without fuss compared to the internally downsampled footage. I do agree that this camera is perfect for the majority of content creators, but hopefully it improves a lot with firmware updates. Could be even better!
@@jessecumberledge4530 And it lacks 6K RAW so the ProRes RAW out of the FX30 is cropped to m43-ish size.
8k would be nice haha
And cut their full frame sale. Doubt
@Donna Turner can't wait for a9iii, a7Cii & a6600ii
Holy crap this is exactly the video I wanted to find and it was uploaded today. God bless you and the algorithm.
I am a Sony APSC camera user for work, because the price rate here is quite low for photo and video work (at least for my city area), so it is very difficult for me to use a fullframe camera, realistically, the payback will be very long if I invest in a fullframe camera and the lenses😂. This FX30 might be a good step for me with features that are futureproof and can be used for a very long time before needing to upgrade the camera again, and of course without having to spend more on lenses. Thank you for the good review and field testing, it really helped me in making decisions. I'm currently using the a6000 and a6400, and plan to trade my a6000 for the FX30, so the a6400 for photos, and the FX30 for video I think it can meet all my needs.🤔
the biggest confusion is full-frame is a more secure and future proof investment and specially the low light is a big difference for video people and FX30 still have the dancing pixels in the shadows!
The A7IV certainly is a great camera and so are many other full frame cameras.
For years I used APS-C and always dreamed of having a full-frame camera. My first full frame was the A7III and now I have the A7IV. I have purchased a small collection of full-frame lenses so my use case is not leading me towards the Fx30. If anything it would be the FX3, as I am sold on full frame and the sony super 35 mode gives me that extra punch that I got from APS-C. As stated earlier when I had APS-C I dreamed of a full-frame body. I don't find myself dreaming of APS-C at all.
What’s the big difference between apsc and full frame to you
@@switchunboxing To be honest it was my use case. Before Sony I had a Caon 7D mark III and the first lens I purchased for it was the Canon 24-105. That was a full-frame lens and at the time I was shooting my kids sports. The 1.6 crop factor was great for the extra reach. So as time went on I purchased a few more lenses which were all full frame based on the amount of FF available vs APS-C. When I switched to Sony I was able to still use all of those Canon lenses using the Sigma mc-11 adapter. The added bonus was that Sony FF now made all my old Canon glass wider, plus the added bonus of the super35 mode of extra reach.
I’ve been debating between the A7iii & A7iv. I like the menus of the IV and flip screen but I’m seeing lots of overheating issues. Have you had any trouble with yours?
@@project_poor_runnerthe A7IV runs hot with video, there's just no way around it. I don't record for long sessions so it's not an issue but I do have a fx3 which gets 99% of game time when I'm shooting.
@@markthecre8tor I’m looking to replace my IPhone 14 Pro Max with a mirrorless for car/overland & portrait photography and video and looking at the 24-105 mm G lense. Which one would you pick the A7iii, A7IV or FX3? Thanks for your help.
Always appreciate your videos! You just lay it out without giving a strong bias. Best channel that I'm loving right now.
Thanks Jason waiting for you to make this comparison
haha thanks for watching
5 months later after watching your video, I bought the A7IV for $2000 open box instead of the FX30. The results in low light is surprisingly good when compare to the FX30.
Any overheating till now?
Really good comparison between those two cameras. Helped me a lot.
Thanks a lot !!!!
next, A7S iii vs FX30..... I'll wait :-)
awesome video! But that sound you have for the points made my look at my phone the first 5 times 😂
I use sony a7 r5 for photography and I have sony 135,34,50 gm series as lenses. I want to buy a video camera, which one would you buy? Fx30 or a7 4?
The best content creators don't always have the best gear.
correct
There is a small dot under your right pupil. It is slightly sharper (more clear) on the A7IV compared to the FX30. If your pixel pupil peeping :)
“Cinema Line”, “Netflix Approved”, “Timecode”, “4K120p”, “Tally Lights”. Cinema Line is a just branding. We must admit that we don’t really film for Netflix or even about submitting to Netflix. Timecode feature is cool but again, we don’t really shoot for Netflix and if you need to sync, do it manually as its easy. Most of us don’t shoot 4K in 120 all the time. The tally light situation can be solved by being attentive to details and checking the back of the camera to know you are rolling. Will I buy it? Nope. I have the A7S3 and A74 and getting the FX30 is a downgrade in my opinion.
Well yea if you have those two cameras why would you even think about getting an FX30? Tf
Yeah tf
If you have the fx3 sony a7siii or a7iv and still wanting the fx30, chances are 90% of us don't even use the cameras to even 50% of their potential. And we are suffering from severe GAS and FOMO (gear acquisition syndrome. Fear of missing out)
this is very true
Yes and no. In theory, hybrid shooting shooting sounds great, but for some of us, it’s difficult to keep switching settings from photo to video. I recognize you can set them independently on the Sony, but I’m finding it’s just easier to have one set up for stills and the other for video.
@@RandumbTech Bro.. I'm using a smartphone right now.. I always change from photo to video mode everyday.. It's a MINIMAL issue that I wouldn't even consider when buying a point-and-shoot, lol..
I’ve watched all your videos thus far since release date along with 20 plus other videos. I pre ordered mine the first day and beyond excited and no regrets.
I shoot real estate, gym promos, weddings, interviews etc all in one for my small business Diesel Media Productions.
You have been a very large help with getting the right information I needed. Especially when it came to selling my A7iii to upgrade to the IV. I am hybrid and have only needed one camera. However as I am getting busier, more requests. I am in need of a second camera for video purposes. I personally utilize the crop mode in 4K 60 a lot. Especially using my 14-24 2.8 sigma that I mainly bought for real estate. I use it a lot now for quick reels and cropping in gives me a good range in the areas I needed it.
Looking forward to adding the FX30, I am far from worried about the crops, as if you have right lenses and it’s a 2nd camera you should be perfectly fine. I believe you can only complain if you’re trying to have the exact same framing/ depth of feild in two shots but I believe the purpose is to have two different looks when doing that. So I don’t see why all these people been complaining about it.
I can’t wait to use mine and now looking for next lens to add. Just figuring out do I get a prime or a zoom 😅
great purchase. I honestly love primes because of the must faster apertures you can get. But that is my personal preference
7:15 Disagree. Full frame lenses are not necessarily heavier or more expensive than apsc, and in some cases, cheaper if you account for crop factor and third-party support. You can get something as cheap as Samyang 18 2.8 (145g / $300 for 12 f/1.8 in apsc) or 16-35 f/4 (380g / $1200 for 10-24 f/2.8 in apsc).
On a general note they are. Look at the full Sony line up and take note of the full frame prices and aps-c prices
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema Not a lot more expensive like you mentioned. Even if you spend a bit more, you get more in return than the price difference. At least that's the current market.
Great video Jason. Speaking of photo capabilities, I just watched a video by Mark Galer who pointed out extracting frames from a 120p video instead of taking photos with the FX30
Just get both…😊
Smart man
Yup have 2 A7IV bodies and a 6400. The FX30 will be next
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I have the fx30 and a a7siii
Can't even afford one
I was going nuts trying to figure out why I was getting so many fb messenger notifications. Turns out it was just your video lol. Great content as usual man, always appreciate your insight.
Can you make 1080 p difference? If FX30 has sharper mage than a6x00?
One important point you've looked over is that the A7IV has a S35 crop mode. And in that mode, the rolling shutter is actually slightly better than the FX30. So overall that tips the hat in A7IV's favour as it can do FF with better low-light (albeit with poor RS) and you can switch it to S35 if you want extra reach and low RS. Best of both worlds. And its also a good hybrid cam with strong photo capabilities. I don't understand the hype around the FX30 honestly: no EVF, no mechanical shutter, non stacked APS-C sensor. I don't even see a detail increase in between it and the non oversample 4K from the A7S3/FX3/FX6 sensor. I'm not an A7IV user by the way but I honestly think that the A7IV is better value when compared to the FX30. Compared to the FX3 though, FX30 wins hands down in the value department.
Good points about the A7iv’s crop mode. I’ve sometimes shot in that mode for the simple reason that I have an APSC zoom (the 18 105 for my crop sensor bodies, but am loathe to buy a ff zoom for several reasons: cost, weight, and little need for that category of lens on a regular basis. So I’ve shot sometimes with that lens on a ff body and was pleased with the results - only realizing later that the footage was also devoid of rolling shutter. It’s an economical yet practical workaround.
Is fx30 a good choice for wildlife videography? As wildlife requires panning too much for moving target.
But 4k 120p is a cherry on the top for wildlife videography, specially fast moving birds or animals.
And with the crop factor it can give a great advantage for 200-600 lens.
massive advantage for wildlife and getting that extra reach
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema Thanks!
Was between these 2 for my B-cam, but the difference in skintones makes it a no brainer for me to go with the A7IV
Jason, for me, as a twitch streamer full time and for doing vlogs, what you recomend me to buy? i was very interessed on zv-e1 but i understood that is impossible to use it as a webcam for streams, Its the a7iv the best option? i can get a a7iv NEW for just 1800€
For filming outdoor and indoor sports and having an A and B cam, which combo makes more sense? A7iv+FX30, FX3+FX30, A7iv+FX3
Imma straight up just get both
Great videos Jason! Fab to see another Aussie here talking Sony cameras! 🙂
The FX30 is super impressive, but I'm gonna stick with my A7IV. All of it's issues are manageable, but I love the ability to crop in using APS-C mode plus clear image zoom. Definitely would like for the rolling shutter performance to be better, but the video I get from it is still incredible. Also, if I want a good set of light lenses to take with my full frame camera, I'll get the coming soon Tamron 20-40mm and the Tamron 28-75mm. Great options for traveling full frame.
The new 20-40mm Tamron has all but pushed me into buying a A74. Im currently a Nikon DSLR shooter (yes even in video 😆) that lens pretty much covers all my lenses except my 50mm - but I reckon with cropping or clear image zoom I can get round that 10mm.
A7 IV's rolling shutter in APS-C is not that different from FX30. I feel like people should be comparing A7 IV in APS-C w/ FX30 in APS-C because to me, A7 IV is a great video shooter if you think of it as an amazing Super 35 shooter that also can shoot great full frame video on a tripod.
@@mbvglider 100%. Honestly, I wouldn't be swapping out my camera for the FX30. Only thing I miss is the 4K 120fps. But if you're willing to cough up $200 bucks for Topaz Labs video enhancer, you can get that sorted as well.
You can always use apsc lenses for video for 4K 60 on A74
do you think Tamron 20-40mm will have internal zoom just like 17-28 version?
One more plus for the A7IV is it has variable shutter, which means you can eliminate flicker from LED lights and projectors. This feature is indispensable when shooting video at an unknown location. Sometimes you can reduce flicker by setting shutter to 1/50 or 1/60, depending on which country you live in, but sometimes you need micro control over shutter in order to fully eliminate it. The FX6, A7IV and A1 have variable shutter. The FX3, FX30 and A7sIII do not. I was doing a 3 camera shoot a few days ago with my FX6, A7IV and A7sIII, when during a test rehearsal I noticed the stage lighting was flickering really badly. I was able to micro adjust the shutter on the FX6 and A7IV to eliminate it, but not on the A7sIII. I ran out and bought another A7IV to save the shoot. A7sIII has now been demoted to my D cam.
It actually has it.
@@flaviotaneli9138 Really? For video? Variable Shutter is different from Anti-Flicker which is exclusive to Photo mode. Can you confirm that it is possible to set the shutter on the FX-30 or A7sIII to say, 50.2 or 50.7, for example?
@@mediakobo I've seen so many videos on the FX30 for the past days that I won't be able to tell you which but I'm 100% positive I've seen 49.8 or 50.2 fps in one of them !
@@flaviotaneli9138 That's great news if true. I was thinking of getting an FX-30 but the lack of variable shutter would be a deal-breaker for me.
Also in this video Jason mentions "variable shutter" at 9:25 so pretty sure the FX30 has it !
a7iv is the best social media camera currently, for some reason, every reel on insta shot with an a7iv looks amazing
I’m torn between these two, I am a photographer first but I already have the a7riv for that. Fx30 would give me a better video camera but lacking on the stills side the a7iv will give me a solid combo of both.
If your keeping two cameras then fx30 and if your only having one camera a7iv
Having a second hybrid body is a good idea. You can always put tele on one and wide on the other. A7 IV is a great hybrid body and is more ergonomic than any other Sony because of the improved dial layout.
Same here I do photos and video with a7iv but if I only do video the fx30 its great video camera
get the FX30 if you keep your A7RIV
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema This is what I am leaning towards.
Who kept checking their phone during the video and realised it was the sound effect for the scoreboard? 🤣
Wanna know super35 comparison regarding rolling shutter.
a7iv is slightly better because less MP in super 35 mode
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema Thank you very much for your reply! Good to know as a7 iv owner.
What about the fact that the a7iv has a view finder and fx30 don’t?
Can you make video comparing the fx30 and a A6400?
I am sorry, I no longer have the A6400
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema 😞
Thank You for this great video. I think, sharpness and low light capabilities of the a 7 IV are more important for me than cinematic features of the fx30. Thank You. Best regards, Kai the bee filmer from Kiel (Northern Germany).
thanks for watching
Yes
Great videos man. Always giving content on what I'm thinking about with considerations to switching to a Sony setup. Personally going to be leaning towards the A7iv since I'm a hybrid shooter, but the FX30 is very tempting for solely video shooting. I think the A7iv will suite my needs perfectly though. Thanks again for all the content. Literally the perfect videos for all of my thoughts and considerations!
Thanks for another banger brother
Would both be good for A & B camera setup?
I'm about to pull the trigger on the exact combo. FX30 for my video work (A7IV as the assist cam), and A7IV for my portrait work.
So what would you suggest when shooting with the A7iv to be able to use timecode?
Congratulations Y0u have been shortlisted 🔝🔝
FX30 is best for beginner filmmakers and content creators(cheaper body, cheaper lens). Also it’s good as a second camera(B) for professionals
Great video bro, thank you 🙏🏼
Very good video! Can you compared A7IV in APSC mode vs FX30?
Been waiting for this comparison. If I can get my hands on it ima just do it myself.
I will have to wait until I get it from my order. Sorry I had very limited time yet still made 5 videos haha
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema Thank You bro!!! Your videos are awesome
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema #worknosleep
Great job on the video Jason! Thanks for making it. The FX30 makes me think that Sony is going to release an A7000 soon. Betting it will have the sensor from the FX30 (but without the Cine modes) put into an A7IV chassis with the new screen from the A7RV. Same retail as the FX30.
Good shout 😂
There is a sale on Sony cameras in Japan right now. I tried both the FX30, A7IV, and A7Cii. I honestly can't decide which is best. I am interested in both photography and shooting videos for RUclips/instagram. I want a camera that can shoot 4k 10 bit 4:2:2 60p and can significantly outperform my iPhone 15 pro max. I am leaning toward the A7Cii but am unsure of the video capabilities. What do you think?
I've been shooting home video for twenty years on various cameras (now a good collection).
The FX30 is what I've been looking for for a long time. I will miss the viewfinder and ND filters. But I guess I'll go with it, since Sony obviously has no plans for an AX-800.
A lot of people deal with depth of field, but for home video it's good to see the background as well.
And for special cases when I really want to separate the foreground from the background, sony has its glasses.
Such as what lenses ?
I already bought the FX30. It's a very good camera and I'm learning how to use it and how to set it up. I bought Sony E PZ 10-20 mm f/4 G (great) and Tamron AF 17-70 mm f/2.8 (I'm not entirely sure). I think about the ND filters. I am still learning. It is different than with cameras like AX100 or AX700.
I'm also considering the Sony E 15 mm f/1.4 G for filming at home or in places with very poor lighting.
Qazi sent me here! Subscribed.
Just what I needed, thanks a lot!
Could you tell us whick camera (plus lens) is better for football player shooting from at least 50 meters away? I want to see every his movement, drilling trick or body fake movement, not the whole team and I want to film him in slow motion.
Thanks in advance!
Already have the A7IV. I’m trying to decide on this as a second cam or a Pocket 4K for more narrative work.
Pocket 4k and FX30 are very different cameras here. Way more versatility in the FX30 but the pocket 4k offers a nice image. Have to consider lenses and auto focus and the whole sony ecosystem
Sometimes when a camera is new, you can still use programs like Adobe Digital Negative Converter to convert your unsupported ARW files to DNG and then process the those in Lightroom. Footage looks great btw!
I must try this
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema if i remember correctly capture one should be able to use the Sony raw files
what would you recoomend for a studio setting? I want high quality studio footage that looks profesional and having a hard time choosing between the two... I'm video-centric but feels weird to buy an aps-c camera when I can get a full frame...
This question Jason!
I have an a7iv but I'm thinking about getting an FX30 for a secondary body for video because having to purchase another a7iv is way too much money, I have some good Full Frame glass so I don't have to invest on APS-C lenses
Thanks for the video. What about recording limit? Is that 30min?
Neither camera has a record limit
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema that’s truly nice man! Thnks a lot 🙏🏼
What picture profile did you film the boxer video example with the FX30?
Will a7iv be A cam, fx30 be B cam agood choice or in another way round?
for video I would say FX30 A-cam. but photos A7IV kills here
The Sony A74 is still on my list but the Sony FX30 might be on my shopping list also. Or the Sony A7C Mark 2
hmm...I have the a6400...is the fx30 really a big jump in video quality? I don't take pics-video only...
not a massive jump but you will notice the work flow difference and the newer auto focus tracking system
Great info as always! Thanks!
thank you for watching
I’m just getting into videography/cinematography coming from photographer background. Not going to use my photo camera for video so should I get the fx30 or save for the A7r5?
Is rolling shutter better than the A7iv in APS-C mode?
Yes it’s much better to be fair.
the rolling shutter is very good with A7IV in Aps-c :) much better than Full frame for sure. I use this with my gimball sc2,
A7IV is slightly better with rolling shutter in super35 mode but I wouldn't worry about rolling shutter
I have noooo idea what camera to upgrade to from a7iii!
The FX 30 is a really good pickup no doubt, as long as you know what your gonna use it to do to suite your needs. Decent video as always bro.
correct. great comment
So I have a a6600 here with a whole bunch of apsc glasses.. would you recommend getting a fx30 or upgrading the whole set to fullframe?
good comparison but please make a full compare between the FX30 & A6600
Except 6600's photography capabilities there is nothing to compare.
@@OUCGN idk i wanna see the 4k results both are apsc so its gonna be good for people who wants to upgrade
Why? Fx30 blows it away the end
Fx30 wins hands down unless it’s photography
Great video, thank you :)
What was the exact lens you used for the fx30 when shooting the boxing video. I know it was a prime lens but what was the exact one. GREAT VIDEO BY THE WAY.
I cycled between the 24mm and 85mm GM lenses
I appreciate you not raving on about the sensor size in comparison to a lot of other creators out there. Heard guys say FX30 is for a beginner filmmaker because of the sensor size by default for example and that type of bollocks lol.
I love that Sony is taking the aps-c range more seriously.
After recently purchasing the A7iV and having constant overheating issues - regardless of internal temp settings, flip screen open, external power, battery, airplane mode, firmware updates. No matter what, it will overheat after 15-20 mins. I'm contemplating returning it and getting this FX30. But does it overheat?!?!?!
Hi brother whats camera do use in your studio
How does the rolling shutter on the A7iv in crop mode compare to the FX30?
Hello! I have an important question that is decisive to buy this camera, it will seem silly but I want to know if it is capable of recording to an external SSD... And I am not talking about Atmos recorders but about connecting an SSD hard drive like other blackmagic cinema cameras , since most hybrid cameras can't, like the a7iv... thanks
not that I know of at this point. I think Tilta are or have developed something like this
Jason how does the FX30 rear screen compare to the A74 rear screen, I can see its almost twice the resolution, but is it brighter as its your only option outside.
FX30 & a7cll 😎🤝🏼🍻
This is an awesome review, thank you. If I may ask a question because I'm a bit confused about the timecode in the A7IV. I see the settings in the menu VIDEO ICON \\ TC/UB. Is this different than the timecode feature you are talking about? I've heard others saying A7IV doesn't have timecode too and I believe you. I don't have experience with this so I'm curious if the setting I mentioned is something different. I can't find info.
For me in the UK its got to be the A74, its only £60 more expensive. Also the new Tamron 20-40mm is so exciting for me as I currently use a 20mm 24mm 35mm and 50mm, so one lens pretty much covers all these focal lengths.
I also ordered the 20-40mm. I could use that about half of the time, and the rest of the time, I can use the 35-150mm. What impresses me more than anything is that it's so frickin' small. Also, it has very high magnification ratio and is very affordable. Though nobody has tested it, Tamron's zooms have been so stellar recently that I'm fine trusting them on this one. You can always punch in with a little bit of Clear Image Zoom or crop mode to get more range out of the 20-40mm, too.
Hello Sir, may I have the test footages like Waqas Qazi used? Hope can play around and do some color grading test. Wish you all the best bro
Can you take a picture with the FX30 ? I mean a raw file picture or a jpeg, like with A7s III. I know it's a cine camera but I can't find the information.
PLEASE PLEASE I have a request. Can you please provide a download link to some fx30 and a7iv log sample footage so that we can try to push the images at home. It will help is a lot to make an informed decision. Please
Is the autofocus system in both of these cameras both the same or does the FX30 have more advanced autofocus technology (i.e., newer generation)? Thanks!
which to cop for fitness stuff?
Believe there is still no white balance control for the RAW, if I’m wrong please tell me.
oh! hmmm I don't know. I'm pretty sure there was.
It gives someone a general idea. It is just fun. Cinematic is just a word. it doesn't mean anything. full frame isn't always the "look" someone is after.
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema Please verify for me! If the FX3 has it I would love to know and I'd purchase one.
What lens best for fx30? Street shots.
sigma 30mm f1.4 is pretty nice
Damn man you’re so clutch !!! 🔥🔥🔥!!!
Love the video bro but hate the text sound beeps lol
Thank you Jason,
I wanted to ask, would you recommend iPhone 14 for camera and the fx-30 combo or a7 iv? Mainly for TikToks/reels and ig photos
U can always use apsc glass for video on A74 and get same 4K 60 fps output as FX30
Can u use live streaming with FX30(?)
yes. plug straight into the computer just like the a7iv
Lol I thought facebook messenger was going off while this was playing. Use a different sound please 😂
i like thinking facebook is going off. makes me feel young again
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema Good call. You should change the sound to the AOL dial up sequence then we’ll really get things cooking 😂
Thanks! You should have tried Rolling Shutter test with A7iv APSC mode too.
rolling shutter test is in another video. But if I tested this, I would have to discuss the A7IV has now less MP count and is not downsampled anymore which produces a different image
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema Ok. Thanks Jason. Will check that out.
I bought the LUT wow amazing thx
Thank you for the support
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema I have one Sony fs7 ..what about the comparing with fx30 ? which is the good camera ?
Hello, thanks a lot for the video! I heard A7IV has sharper image at 1080P than FX30. Is that true?
Witch lenses did you use on filming fx30?
you can forncer some sotck to know better the files?
As a sports videographer. I am tossing up between the A7siii and the new FX30. Currently don't have the $$$ for either of them but confused as which one to get when I can upgrade. Currently using a Panasonic Camcorder that shoots 4k at 60fps.