Speaking as a BN conductor/engineer, I can assure you that neither of those trains was running at 75 MPH although the Z9 probably was running at 69 MPH since our max speed on any track is 70 MPH
Yep. Way too many railfans insist on arguing this all over RUclips. There is NOWHERE in the US where ANY railroad is running freight above 70MPH. UP, BNSF and CSX all have sections of 70 MPH for Intermodal. NS Has a systemwide max of 60 for Intermodal. But that's it. These buffs don't understand how locomotive overspeed's work and how PTC works. They keep saying dumb stuff like "Well, sometimes the engineer likes to run a little hot"🤣🤣 That's not how it works. And my favorite is "I clocked one going faster".
Second train likely going about 75 MPH. I saw 13 53' trailers separated by about 8' on average passing by in 7.18 seconds. That's (13*53)+(12*8) = 785' in 7.18 seconds... 74.5 MPH. That's not official Swiss timing here, but a ballpark figure - assuming the video is presented at actual rate/speed.
I mentioned it below, but counting the frames it takes for a container or trailer to clear the edge of the screen. The trailers, I counted roughly 18 frames. The video runs at 30 fps. Which would turn out to be roughly 60 MPH. However, counting the frames for the containers gave me 63 MPH. So I'd say no faster than 65 MPH for the first train.
So...a train goes by in one direction, and then a train goes by in the other direction. Whee. And you can't find a place to film where there's not a person standing in your shot.
What you don't get; standing that close to the tracks makes the crew very nervous. For those that have personally experienced grade crossing accidents, please stand back from the rail - especially when the rail is hot!!!
probably more like 55mph. only a fool ( meaning anyone younger than me LOL ) would stand so casually & so close to a freight train without considering the consequences
There is a lot of fools in this world. You should see how close some fools have put some apartments on west 4 in Austin Texas. about 50 feet from the tracks on a tight curve that has had 3 derailments in the last 10 years.
Was going to say the same thing. The way the wheels are hitting, about 1 1/10 of a second should tell you that the train is traveling at least 65-70 mph. Fucking scary, but such beautiful machines at the same time. I train hopped once... I also jumped off the said train, when it was going around 30-40 mph. That was a little over 3 years ago now. I really don't know how I am still alive, too be honest. It should have killed me, but I am extremely grateful that I only broke my hand and wrist. It is crazy how things happen, but I have come to terms with the fact, that I will probably die before I am 35, due to severe head trauma, that just hasn't showed it face yet. Although, when I Jumped, I jumped even with the train, which obviously I hit the ground with an outstretched arm, which took most of the impact. Going that fast though, I began to roll, as soon as I hit. I rolled for what, seemed like a good 2-3 seconds, before I stood up and screamed the loudest/longest I ever have. Then I began to laugh, pick up my beanie, that was knocked off my head, and then walked a half mile home. I had to hop another train, just to get to my house. Let me tell you, I was waiting at the stopped train for a good 5 minutes, before I decided to just climb it and get the fuck over. I still love trains, but after that night, they are a scary fucking thing. I went to sleep when I got home and slept til about 9am, went to the hospital and they gave me morphine, not once, but twice, and it still didn't take any relief. They were cleaning out my elbow, because I had train rock, logged into the my elbow. Lol. WORST PHYSICAL PAIN EVER. Needless to say I was in a cast for almost half a year. Wrist, hand doesn't work like it used to. It affects my guitar playing and some days, I wake up with it numb, but I attribute that to also breaking my knuckles many times, by punching shit. I should have just road the train, until it stopped. I had the cash to come back home on, but I don't know. When I saw it picking up more speed, I said fuck it and jumped. Where I road it at, they hits speeds of 55 mph. I have many heart scans/test done and my body is pretty much in good shape, besides broken bones all over the place, in my life. The only thing I have not had scanned, is my head. It is rather frightening to think about. I know when I go in for the test, they are going to find something alarming. I don't want to know. Shit. Funny thing is, I was as dumb as a box of rocks, before that night. Since then, I feel like my intelligence has grown tremendously. It really is funny how life works, but at the same time, it is beautifully tragic.
Bruce Benson 3 of us jumped a train long ago that was heading out of town. When we noticed the train picking up speed we immediately jumped. Cause it was only gonna get worse.
It depends on how BNSF had them geared when they were ordered. (Of course thats assuming they had choices available when they ordered them) Might be faster, might not, only they know for sure. If you know someone who can get a timetable for that division/district that would have all the info you would need.
Personally I wouldn't want to stand close to a moving train. What if it derailed and all those containers came rolling at you? Say your prayers because you'd have seconds to live.
don't bother reading the comments they are all arguing about how fast the trains were going. all I was thinking was how could I stop it and how quick could I have all them containers emptied and in my massive pretend warehouse 😆😆 ( happened in the UK back in the 60 's the great train robbery)
If both trains were going 75 I think 60 but they would have closed the gap at 150mph. If they closed the gap at 75 that would be 37.5 mph. I think they were going 50 to 60 mph. And you shouldn't stand close to the crossing. You shouldn't drive on the side of 18 wheelers either but that is for another video.
I work for BNSF as a conductor for over 22 years and we cannot do 75 MPH and why do you stay so close to the tracks... if we derail or something falls off your Dead. plz stay away from the tracks
Funny you say that. I worked briefly for Swift back in 2000 and the logistics and dispatchers where unprofessional along with no business experience whatsoever. And the in company politics made it a nightmare to work for. After a year I became a owner operator and never looked back.
Actually, overspeed protection is triggered at 73 mph, not 74 or 75. But in reality, it's not that big of deal. Seeing trains go this fast, especially a freight train, is pretty cool.
@ squach623 Both of those trains were doing about 70. It takes 51 seconds to travel a mile at 70. They each blew the required 14L whistle for the road crossing for approx. 13 seconds. The whistle post is exactly 1/4 mile from the road crossing. If you do the math, you'll get your answer. Isn't science wonderful! lol It beats guessing!
Nope, whistle! I know; I'm a locomotive engineer. Under the rules governing railroads it is known as a 'whistle', NOT a "horn". The 'whistle signal', NOT "horn" signal, for public crossings at grade is known as a '14L' ( __ __ o __ ) Two long, one short, and one long. The 'whistle post', NOT "horn" post is located exactly 1/4 mile from public crossings at grade and other locations as required under the rules and operating conditions. 'Whistle', is therefore, the correct terminology.
@@ejdsndnj and lol that's not a harsh insult, saying "you wouldn't know a _____ if it bit you on the ass" is like... cuffing you upside the head and saying "c'mon, man"... it's meant to be friendly
I have to smh at someone that close to a train traveling that speed...the stuff that flies off those trains can kill you! 35 years experience as a conductor on BNSF is how I know.
@@floridianrailauto9032 It's very likely Gordon Peters worked for either Burlington Northern (founded in 1970) or Satna Fe (founded 1859) when the companies were purchased/ merged to become BNSF in 1995.
Both of those trains were doing about 70. It takes 51 seconds to travel a mile at 70. They each blew the 14L whistle approx. 13 seconds for the road crossing. The whistle post is exactly 1/4 mile from the crossing. If you do the math you'll have your answer. Isn't science wonderful! lol
You just totally made that up (or whoever told you that did). There is no such law, local or federal that says anything so ridiculous. There isn't even a rule in any railroad book that says that. Unofficially we don't dump the train any time something is on the tracks. Because 99% of the time whatever it is moves. But in almost 30 years running trains i have dumped one many times before i impacted something. No Law or Rule says i can't.
Cool video, I love the sound effects. I really liked watching the front light of the second train coming in, it building and building. I also liked that the man was stood in front of the camera too because as with the plants, it means you get to see the wind picked up from the train through his clothes.
Excellent video, for sure. But the thing that scares me is that the guy in the video is standing too close to the r.o.w., especially when the 2nd train rolled by at @ 75 mph. I'm so glad none of those cars derailed because at that speed it's not likely he could have gotten out of the way fast enough to avoid being taken out himself.
I'd like to know why the title and title picture imply two trains meeting head on at 75mph. The little picture shows what appears to be an explosion as a result of the "meet". Even though I'm a hard-core railfan and N gauge hobbiest with a Tehachapi Loop set-up, I give RANDY2045 a "thumbs down" for a misleading title. Maybe it should read: "BNSF Freights Pass at Approximately 75MPH" being the fact they didn't "meet" but 1/2 a mile away. Stupid kids today. Jeez...
I would not stand that close . 1. derailment. or if metal scraps fell of one of those gondola wagons. Be more safe when filming. Because it is very dangerous being that close
60mph... BNSF units do not have cab signals... still fun video.... (former BNSF Engr) Nice whistle second train And yes step back a bit... PLEASE... we feel guilty when the public gets hurt... we shouldn't but it's natural
Ripley New York, 5 miles from the Pennsylvania State Line, Lake Erie Lake Plain, 2 CXS tracks and 1 NS track, every 30 minutes a train goes through there, trains this long,, and this fast. Was in the 100 feet distance between the CXS and the NS tracks with an Eastbound train on both of them. Caught by one gate and the other gate comes down behind me. (Right in town they are synchronized, but outside of that crossing, this can happen). I saw the headlights on both engines and knew that would be a virtual tie between which got to the crossing first.
Meet? No. If the trains 'met' at this crossing, they would have at least been going through it at the same time. No, this was one train going by, and then another one went by in the other direction a minute later. Words mean things.
It was a video of trains passing each other MORE-OR-LESS near the crossing. VERY anticlimactic and NOT what i expected......this sort of thing happens all day every day....unremarkable.
You're standing too close to the tracks, it's very dangerous and stressful to the train crew as they don't know if you are a harmless foamer or a suicidal person on drugs
I do now recall that around 1989 (back when the dinosaurs roamed) I caught a crew call for an eastbound 18 locomotive consist of deadhead power (Dash eights mainly) with a way car light on Christmas eve on the Santa Fe out of Emporia, Kansas. We wuz in a hurry and I'm sure we hit 75 or so while dodging slow orders. We abandoned the mandatory caboose and jumped in the last motor of the consist. Got to Argentine Yard (AY tower) in a little over an hour and a half.
I'm glad your memory is slowing returning! lol :) On my railway - the CPR - the maximum freight train speed on my division for a short time in '77-'78 was 65 mph. That said the fastest that I ever went was 73 mph on a 15,000 ton grain train. (Uphill slow, downhill fast!) We had an all MLW (ALCO) consist and they were geared for 75. When the max. speed was 65 it was quite common to go close to 70 because I believe the overspeed was set at 68 for the GM's. And if you had an all MLW consist - well just let it roll!
Bob Johnson..... What division were you working back then (1977 - 78)? I was working the Bredenbury / Yarbo Potash Sub as head end brakeman, then back to S'toon to start OJT for engineer on the Prairie Div.
Not needed. In the past the caboose was a rolling office. It was also a way for the crew to monitor the end of the train for movement, air pressure, etc. Now that is done electronically and computers do the 'office work'
The same thing happened several months ago, when I was on a bus that was stopped at a railroad crossing. After the train went through the crossing, I expected the crossing bell to stop ringing and the gates to go up right away, but they didn't. I started thinking to myself why this was so, and then my silent question was answered when another train went through the crossing from the opposite direction.
With all due respect, there is no way in hell that was 75MPH. 60 at the very best probably closer to 55 or 50. Also if anyone doubts this, I can tell you 75 is impossible because locomotives go into PC from overspeed at 75MPH. These bullshit clickbait titles from foamers who don't understand how things actually work, drive me crazy.
I agree this is no way 75. But this line is rated for 70 MPH intermodal so these trains could technically be running that fast. The overspeed on EMD's is set for 70-72 (depending on wheel wear) but a lot of newer GE's are set for 75. But PTC trumps both so it's 70, period.
Herding Cats yes we do follow the rules. With all of the GPS and recorded control movements the company knows everything we do and we can be fired if we speed. And the units can't do over 73 without tripping the overspeed and coming to a stop.
Speaking as a BN conductor/engineer, I can assure you that neither of those trains was running at 75 MPH although the Z9 probably was running at 69 MPH since our max speed on any track is 70 MPH
Yep. Way too many railfans insist on arguing this all over RUclips. There is NOWHERE in the US where ANY railroad is running freight above 70MPH. UP, BNSF and CSX all have sections of 70 MPH for Intermodal. NS Has a systemwide max of 60 for Intermodal. But that's it. These buffs don't understand how locomotive overspeed's work and how PTC works. They keep saying dumb stuff like "Well, sometimes the engineer likes to run a little hot"🤣🤣 That's not how it works. And my favorite is "I clocked one going faster".
Well we Santa Fe employees run the way you bn employees run, but better
Close enough!
I heard light engines or very short trains can run 80 MPH
@@GLOATINGMAPLE01 Light engines means no cars. and still max of 70
Really great video. An exciting event capture without using any telephoto lensing, and showing the entire length of each train. Super job.
You are a brave soul standing that close to the tracks ! I couldn't do it. Enjoyed the video !
Brave, NO! Stupid, YES!
Dumb ass standing that close. Gee I wonder if he could see it?
Just pinch your cheeks and hope for the best.
If that train derails, you are screwed standing that close.
legend says that guy is still there waiting for a goddamn train
Second train likely going about 75 MPH.
I saw 13 53' trailers separated by about 8' on average passing by in 7.18 seconds.
That's (13*53)+(12*8) = 785' in 7.18 seconds... 74.5 MPH.
That's not official Swiss timing here, but a ballpark figure - assuming the video is presented at actual rate/speed.
I mentioned it below, but counting the frames it takes for a container or trailer to clear the edge of the screen. The trailers, I counted roughly 18 frames. The video runs at 30 fps. Which would turn out to be roughly 60 MPH. However, counting the frames for the containers gave me 63 MPH. So I'd say no faster than 65 MPH for the first train.
Nice video. Use to live near the train tracks in Memphis not far from the Mississippi River, but is this guy real. He's not moving.
So...a train goes by in one direction, and then a train goes by in the other direction. Whee. And you can't find a place to film where there's not a person standing in your shot.
Those swift trailers are safer on that train than on their trucks going down the road !
All you have to do is make sure that you and your car is on the same side of the tracks so you can chase the train.
That does really look fast like 80 or 90 mph, but the max speed for freight trains is 70 mph. But cool meet!
I'd definitely say the second train was going slightly faster.
Ask the guy standing in front. He was closer.
Not close enough.
I know you are right
definitly wrong
Next time, go stand between them,,,that would get a million views for sure!
Everybody gangsta till they see brave dave on a freight train
What you don't get; standing that close to the tracks makes the crew very nervous. For those that have personally experienced grade crossing accidents, please stand back from the rail - especially when the rail is hot!!!
Great locations brother!!!
I was told break shoes do come off.
Wow ! Nobody thinks about that (on standing too close) I didn't anyways. Thanks !
Two different Z trains I'm currently at a BNSF rail yard waiting to unload a z train
I remember when the Santa Fe crossed the Mojave Desert at 90 MPH. Ah, those were the days. And, yes, today 70 MPH max.
Wow, what a thriller !
First we pull ‘em one way, then we pull ‘em back. And shhhhh....there’s nothing inside any of them. We got the idea from Milo Minderbinder.
Sounds like the sound effects in the new "War of the World's."
probably more like 55mph. only a fool ( meaning anyone younger than me LOL ) would stand so casually & so close to a freight train without considering the consequences
Only a fool would be so afraid of such a safe form of transport.
Go to my videos davehughesfarm...Fast freight la plata mo. Gauranted filmed one 70 plus
There is a lot of fools in this world. You should see how close some fools have put some apartments on west 4 in Austin Texas. about 50 feet from the tracks on a tight curve that has had 3 derailments in the last 10 years.
Was going to say the same thing. The way the wheels are hitting, about 1 1/10 of a second should tell you that the train is traveling at least 65-70 mph. Fucking scary, but such beautiful machines at the same time. I train hopped once... I also jumped off the said train, when it was going around 30-40 mph. That was a little over 3 years ago now. I really don't know how I am still alive, too be honest. It should have killed me, but I am extremely grateful that I only broke my hand and wrist. It is crazy how things happen, but I have come to terms with the fact, that I will probably die before I am 35, due to severe head trauma, that just hasn't showed it face yet. Although, when I Jumped, I jumped even with the train, which obviously I hit the ground with an outstretched arm, which took most of the impact. Going that fast though, I began to roll, as soon as I hit. I rolled for what, seemed like a good 2-3 seconds, before I stood up and screamed the loudest/longest I ever have. Then I began to laugh, pick up my beanie, that was knocked off my head, and then walked a half mile home. I had to hop another train, just to get to my house. Let me tell you, I was waiting at the stopped train for a good 5 minutes, before I decided to just climb it and get the fuck over. I still love trains, but after that night, they are a scary fucking thing. I went to sleep when I got home and slept til about 9am, went to the hospital and they gave me morphine, not once, but twice, and it still didn't take any relief. They were cleaning out my elbow, because I had train rock, logged into the my elbow. Lol. WORST PHYSICAL PAIN EVER. Needless to say I was in a cast for almost half a year. Wrist, hand doesn't work like it used to. It affects my guitar playing and some days, I wake up with it numb, but I attribute that to also breaking my knuckles many times, by punching shit. I should have just road the train, until it stopped. I had the cash to come back home on, but I don't know. When I saw it picking up more speed, I said fuck it and jumped. Where I road it at, they hits speeds of 55 mph. I have many heart scans/test done and my body is pretty much in good shape, besides broken bones all over the place, in my life. The only thing I have not had scanned, is my head. It is rather frightening to think about. I know when I go in for the test, they are going to find something alarming. I don't want to know. Shit. Funny thing is, I was as dumb as a box of rocks, before that night. Since then, I feel like my intelligence has grown tremendously. It really is funny how life works, but at the same time, it is beautifully tragic.
Bruce Benson 3 of us jumped a train long ago that was heading out of town. When we noticed the train picking up speed we immediately jumped. Cause it was only gonna get worse.
It depends on how BNSF had them geared when they were ordered. (Of course thats assuming they had choices available when they ordered them) Might be faster, might not, only they know for sure. If you know someone who can get a timetable for that division/district that would have all the info you would need.
Can never figure out why someone parks themselves in front of a camera that is set up to record an event.
The guy standing so close would have been dead if the train derailed or if something fell off the train, like one of the semi trailers or a container.
Aviation Nut. So?
@Maggie Lou That's right. No loss! Just one less 'foamer'! lol
Fast as 777
The aircraft? Or triple 7 from Unstoppable?
ItsMyDank747 yes
CSX train fan 7767 AWVR 777 went like 75 mph ish
SpicyRecovery that sounds about right... just ask denzel Washington or chris pine lol
Man if that train decided to derain he would have been as flat as a pancake.
FlavonoidzExplosion 😂😂😂😂😂
Why didn't you just stand next to the other guy?
be more accidents if they could go that fast
Personally I wouldn't want to stand close to a moving train.
What if it derailed and all those containers came rolling at you? Say your prayers because you'd have seconds to live.
Rob Petry that's true. But that's just me.
Hipnotic video
I thought those engines were limited to 70 mph
That is unless they’ve secretly strapped jet engines to it
75, they were probably going 73MPH
The EMD's are. Some GE's are rated for 75, but PTC enforces 70 for all since that is the fastest speed allowed anywhere on BNSF.
*Ole F.R.E.D. bringing up the rear...*
SWIFT- Stevie Wonder Institute of Trucking
I love it, great film footage.
Thank you.
I see trucking companies are using rail to move trailers more instead of hiring drivers to do it smart for them, bad for drivers...
But! If we could push it up to 88 miles per hour. However, he have think 4th dimensionally
Nice, but why stand in front of the camera???
don't bother reading the comments they are all arguing about how fast the trains were going. all I was thinking was how could I stop it and how quick could I have all them containers emptied and in my massive pretend warehouse 😆😆 ( happened in the UK back in the 60 's the great train robbery)
I'm just looking and thinking bout all the individual trucks that don't need to be on the road thanks to these trains. (sorry truckers)
thats on the stockton sub.... in between stockton and escalon
If both trains were going 75 I think 60 but they would have closed the gap at 150mph. If they closed the gap at 75 that would be 37.5 mph. I think they were going 50 to 60 mph. And you shouldn't stand close to the crossing. You shouldn't drive on the side of 18 wheelers either but that is for another video.
I miss the caboose
Awesome!
WOW. That was one helluva U-turn. I've never seen one that fast in my life.
If it wasnt for the loco position, and paint scheme, I would have thought so too.
you probably never played the snake on you nokia
@@fft2020 That sounds like a masterbation reference. I couldn't wait...I had to go play my snake on the nokia. It was awesome.
@@DarthVader19-77 haha
now you know that the snake can make u-turns pretty damn quick
It didn't do a U-Turn
That's why it's so important to look both ways once more when you think the train has passed.
No shit
@@adventurerian5872 😂
When around (multiple) tracks - expect a train on ANY track, at ANY time.
Unless it’s one track
Escally Right
Rumor has it the conductor applied the brakes 3 days ago and it finally came to a stop.
tubez4321 lol
Rumor has it that it’s still rolling to this day- 3 years later
The conductor????
@@chooch1995 no caboose no conductor
@@tomjones6256 There's a conductor, but he's in the lead locomotive with the engineer. It's the engineer who applies the brakes.
If you look closely you can see Brave Dave hiding out on the 30th car.
Nunya Bizness Nahhhh
Damn, I forgot about dave.
" shit I forgot my lunch pail", turns train around comes back!
Lol
It didn’t turn around
@@ejdsndnj that... that's the joke... jesus...
@@jamesm6638 how am I suppose to know if it's a joke?
@@ejdsndnj because nobody would ACTUALLY think that a train did a u-turn
Big deal. You've never seen a train turn around and come back before?
La Leaf now that's fucking funny
Never have
That was funny😂😂
@Christopher Smith woosh
Abbie Colley wow kid I’d like to know when I asked for your opinion.
That second train coming twords the camera really puts into perspective the sheer mass & speed of a moving train.
Yeah, just three workin' girls doing their thing and I can't stop replaying it.
Absolutely power down low and go go gi
I work for BNSF as a conductor for over 22 years and we cannot do 75 MPH and why do you stay so close to the tracks... if we derail or something falls off your Dead. plz stay away from the tracks
Steve Nolan same reason people jump out of planes. It's a thrill.
Same reason people are killed jumping out of planes seeking that thrill!
Watching the truck vans (trailers) pass a fixed point in less than 0.7 seconds makes the second train about 68 mph or so.
I know I was like bruh, get away from the tracks!
Are we really worried about stuff falling off our trains, or a train derailment.....let's be realistic. That is all.
There is one way for JB and Swift to get their trucks cross country intact!!
DITTO,very good sir
Funny you say that. I worked briefly for Swift back in 2000 and the logistics and dispatchers where unprofessional along with no business experience whatsoever. And the in company politics made it a nightmare to work for. After a year I became a owner operator and never looked back.
If they were going 75, there would be two engine persons out of a job now.
Actually, overspeed protection is triggered at 73 mph, not 74 or 75. But in reality, it's not that big of deal. Seeing trains go this fast, especially a freight train, is pretty cool.
ThirdTerm That wasn't any faster than 50 mph,the first train! The second one was maybe the same, no more than 50 mph.
@ squach623 Both of those trains were doing about 70. It takes 51 seconds to travel a mile at 70. They each blew the required 14L whistle for the road crossing for approx. 13 seconds. The whistle post is exactly 1/4 mile from the road crossing. If you do the math, you'll get your answer. Isn't science wonderful! lol It beats guessing!
Nope, whistle! I know; I'm a locomotive engineer. Under the rules governing railroads it is known as a 'whistle', NOT a "horn". The 'whistle signal', NOT "horn" signal, for public crossings at grade is known as a '14L' ( __ __ o __ ) Two long, one short, and one long. The 'whistle post', NOT "horn" post is located exactly 1/4 mile from public crossings at grade and other locations as required under the rules and operating conditions. 'Whistle', is therefore, the correct terminology.
And in Canada it is a whistle, per the 'Canadian Rail Operating Rules' Rule 14. ENGINE WHISTLE SIGNALS.
"I think" the last blast of the whistle must sound until the lead locomotive completely occupies the crossing ?
The u-turn was so fast they lost the leading loco...
Oh come on....of course it was.
@@ejdsndnj dude this is youtube comments... you really wouldn't know a joke if it bit you on the ass, would you...
@@ejdsndnj dude you're acting like a 10 year old, please get off the internet
@@ejdsndnj and lol that's not a harsh insult, saying "you wouldn't know a _____ if it bit you on the ass" is like... cuffing you upside the head and saying "c'mon, man"... it's meant to be friendly
@@ejdsndnj are you breaking google's terms of service by being under 13? (hint: yes you are) :)
I have to smh at someone that close to a train traveling that speed...the stuff that flies off those trains can kill you! 35 years experience as a conductor on BNSF is how I know.
BNSF has only been around for 25 years tho
@@floridianrailauto9032 It's very likely Gordon Peters worked for either Burlington Northern (founded in 1970) or Satna Fe (founded 1859) when the companies were purchased/ merged to become BNSF in 1995.
How many people did you see killed?
They it’s hard to believe something that big can go freeway speed.
Ok, who else was waiting for Marty and the Delorean to re enter 1985?
You were filming on the BNSF Chillicothe Subdivision. It is a part of the BNSF Southern Transcon that stretches from Chicago to Los Angeles.
It'd been better if the other foamer would have got his ass out of the picture
Amed Tajan locomotive by itself is like 410,000 lbs
Anthony Smith at best 7000tons
Amed Tajan the most I've seen is 1,700 tons.
Grant Christopherson 1700 or 17000???
Kreig Dernier 1,700
Sooooo spectacular seeing that much weight move with soooo much momentum! It truly is jaw-dropping and the vid does it no justice!
Both of those trains were doing about 70. It takes 51 seconds to travel a mile at 70. They each blew the 14L whistle approx. 13 seconds for the road crossing. The whistle post is exactly 1/4 mile from the crossing. If you do the math you'll have your answer. Isn't science wonderful! lol
Don't forget the speed of sound, it takes a little more than a second to travel that 1/4 mile from the train to the mic.
That's correct and was factored in.
The pity of this is that engineers are forbidden by law to stop the train until they actually impact something.
You just totally made that up (or whoever told you that did). There is no such law, local or federal that says anything so ridiculous. There isn't even a rule in any railroad book that says that. Unofficially we don't dump the train any time something is on the tracks. Because 99% of the time whatever it is moves. But in almost 30 years running trains i have dumped one many times before i impacted something. No Law or Rule says i can't.
Cool video, I love the sound effects. I really liked watching the front light of the second train coming in, it building and building. I also liked that the man was stood in front of the camera too because as with the plants, it means you get to see the wind picked up from the train through his clothes.
Excellent video, for sure. But the thing that scares me is that the guy in the video is standing too close to the r.o.w., especially when the 2nd train rolled by at @ 75 mph. I'm so glad none of those cars derailed because at that speed it's not likely he could have gotten out of the way fast enough to avoid being taken out himself.
Well if something was going to go wrong he would have a front row seat.
I don't get why people stand so close... if something went wrong they would never find that guy as he would be buried 20feet deep in the corn field
Worked the rails. Not going 75mph
The film was speeded up
@@tommytruth7595 Nah it wasn't, just wasn't going 75.
the size of these locomotives are awe inspiring.
Mechanical monsters
that is definetely not 75 mph bnsf max speed on a line is 70mph or else they go into a penalty no other divisions run over 70Mph
You are 100% correct.
At that speed, the whistle post has be back in the previous county. Nice.
So. The life of a train is more valuable, more worthy, than the life of a human?
That second train was doing the work of 98 trucks. Amazing.
I'd like to know why the title and title picture imply two trains meeting head on at 75mph. The little picture shows what appears to be an explosion as a result of the "meet". Even though I'm a hard-core railfan and N gauge hobbiest with a Tehachapi Loop set-up, I give RANDY2045 a "thumbs down" for a misleading title. Maybe it should read: "BNSF Freights Pass at Approximately 75MPH" being the fact they didn't "meet" but 1/2 a mile away. Stupid kids today. Jeez...
the title and title picture are click and it caught me and you
roy hoco me too but i dont give a shit anymore..at least there were super titties popping out of some trims top that never happens..
meant "were not" not "were".
see i cant even get my tittie scenarios right, i just dont give a "no le hace" anymore..
titties!
The 'explosion' is the lens flare from the gate lights...
When trains pass going the opposite way on parallel lines they meet.
Great doppler effect from the horn of the first train
I would not stand that close . 1. derailment. or if metal scraps fell of one of those gondola wagons. Be more safe when filming. Because it is very dangerous being that close
60mph... BNSF units do not have cab signals... still fun video.... (former BNSF Engr) Nice whistle second train
And yes step back a bit... PLEASE... we feel guilty when the public gets hurt... we shouldn't but it's natural
Um the high line is 70, and so is the trans con, not sure what can signals would do to change that.
I Never felt guilty about hitting anyone. But, I never forgot what it sounds like.
I love high speed freight trains!
The overspeed is set at 70, so it can't be 75 miles an hour. Good video nonetheless
Everybody quit arguing it's 68 mph I used my radar gun
It’s a 7 mph difference only so I don’t see the problem
You can’t use a radar gun through a screen
The BNSF and the UP know how to run trains, csx and ns have a lot to learn.
Ripley New York, 5 miles from the Pennsylvania State Line, Lake Erie Lake Plain, 2 CXS tracks and 1 NS track, every 30 minutes a train goes through there, trains this long,, and this fast. Was in the 100 feet distance between the CXS and the NS tracks with an Eastbound train on both of them. Caught by one gate and the other gate comes down behind me. (Right in town they are synchronized, but outside of that crossing, this can happen). I saw the headlights on both engines and knew that would be a virtual tie between which got to the crossing first.
Meet? No. If the trains 'met' at this crossing, they would have at least been going through it at the same time. No, this was one train going by, and then another one went by in the other direction a minute later. Words mean things.
It was a video of trains passing each other MORE-OR-LESS near the crossing. VERY anticlimactic and NOT what i expected......this sort of thing happens all day every day....unremarkable.
You're standing too close to the tracks, it's very dangerous and stressful to the train crew as they don't know if you are a harmless foamer or a suicidal person on drugs
I do now recall that around 1989 (back when the dinosaurs roamed) I caught a crew call for an eastbound 18 locomotive consist of deadhead power (Dash eights mainly) with a way car light on Christmas eve on the Santa Fe out of Emporia, Kansas. We wuz in a hurry and I'm sure we hit 75 or so while dodging slow orders. We abandoned the mandatory caboose and jumped in the last motor of the consist. Got to Argentine Yard (AY tower) in a little over an hour and a half.
I'm glad your memory is slowing returning! lol :) On my railway - the CPR - the maximum freight train speed on my division for a short time in '77-'78 was 65 mph. That said the fastest that I ever went was 73 mph on a 15,000 ton grain train. (Uphill slow, downhill fast!) We had an all MLW (ALCO) consist and they were geared for 75. When the max. speed was 65 it was quite common to go close to 70 because I believe the overspeed was set at 68 for the GM's. And if you had an all MLW consist - well just let it roll!
Bob Johnson..... What division were you working back then (1977 - 78)? I was working the Bredenbury / Yarbo Potash Sub as head end brakeman, then back to S'toon to start OJT for engineer on the Prairie Div.
uboat6313 What ?
'Twas brillig in the frithy toves..."
maybe someone reading this works for a railroad..Can someone please tell me why they don't use a caboose on the tail end anymore.
Not needed. In the past the caboose was a rolling office. It was also a way for the crew to monitor the end of the train for movement, air pressure, etc. Now that is done electronically and computers do the 'office work'
Some amtraks do 110 most of them do 79
Top speed of those trains are 70mph
if an IBC falls off that train at that speed that dude is dead! Always stay a safe distance.
At 1:37, How'd they turn that train around so fast ?
It was a meet, cause trains don’t turn around, unless if you use magic to do so, but that’s even real in reality
Yes, and NO the video is misworded! The trains were not shown meeting, and it was unremarkable. Although a decent piece of train video.
haha you should have gone and filmed right in front of that guy
"Yea, let's stand close to a fast traveling freight train, nothing can go wrong!" Five minutes later: *splat!*
Looks to be going about 65MPH. Westbound intermodals in my area typically go that fast.
Are you kidding me?! Absolutely not. They’re both going right around 75. I see them run 74-75 near me and this is what they were doing.
@@paulspomer16 no GE’s and EMD’s both are limited to 70 mph so there’s no way them going 74-75.
@@TNandTXRailfan They aren’t though. I’ve seen them going 75 with my own eyes and confirmed by radar gun.
The second train was most awesome!!! SWEEEEEET video!
anyone know uf the rails are made from a special steel ?
thats a hell of alot wear and tear the trains put out, Id imagine that steel is expensive.
The same thing happened several months ago, when I was on a bus that was stopped at a railroad crossing. After the train went through the crossing, I expected the crossing bell to stop ringing and the gates to go up right away, but they didn't. I started thinking to myself why this was so, and then my silent question was answered when another train went through the crossing from the opposite direction.
Lots of people think it’s a malfunction and just cross over double track territory, but scenes just like this constantly turn tragic
With all due respect, there is no way in hell that was 75MPH. 60 at the very best probably closer to 55 or 50. Also if anyone doubts this, I can tell you 75 is impossible because locomotives go into PC from overspeed at 75MPH. These bullshit clickbait titles from foamers who don't understand how things actually work, drive me crazy.
I agree this is no way 75. But this line is rated for 70 MPH intermodal so these trains could technically be running that fast. The overspeed on EMD's is set for 70-72 (depending on wheel wear) but a lot of newer GE's are set for 75. But PTC trumps both so it's 70, period.
Second train, fastest I've ever seen one go.
Those trains have a max of 70 mph. They can't go any faster than 70 on any part of the bnsf. Overspeed trips at 73.
That's the max they're supposed to go. But do they always follow the rule?
Herding Cats yes we do follow the rules. With all of the GPS and recorded control movements the company knows everything we do and we can be fired if we speed. And the units can't do over 73 without tripping the overspeed and coming to a stop.
Is that what is called Notch 8?
Herding Cats notch 8 is full throttle.
I thought there were freight engines such as the ES44AC that could do 75mph