I went to Manchester a couple of days ago and I must confess I'm fully in love with it. I think you can sense history very much through every street. Personally, I really enjoyed walking around The Hacienda, Deansgate and Salford among others. I wish I could live around. I became obsessed with this lovely city.
Hey, there are many rock and roll tours if that's what you're looking for. I decided to do some research first and go to the places I wanted on my own. Regarding the building, it's not there anymore. Now that place is called "The Hacienda Apartments" and although there's only a commemorative plaque, it's cool to walk around there. It's kinda close to Salford, Ritz, The Britons Protection and Deansgate. If you're a Smith fan, you will enjoy it A LOT. Also, New Order and Happy Mondays played some gigs around :)
+Paulina Aguirre I went to manchester a couple of days ago......Oh hang on ......im born and bred there..lol I lived right through the hac, from seeing mantronix there joyce simms and t la rock, the roses and the mondays and then being swept up by acid house, detroit techno, chi town house and Graham and mike and jon da silva who rocked my world every friday (nude night) and the Wednesdays with the swimming pool.. And it was epic, and its in my mind and heart until i die and i would change nothing.. but tonys son is right, that was then and you cannot re lived a period in time.. Im sure hooky's club is decent and ive been to the car park under piccy station ,but its just not the same, and mike pickering was right in what he said.. but like you, i love my city and man city....
Joined the Hac in May 82. Met my now wife in Aug 82 at a Delta 5 gig. (Yes 40 years ago). Was a regular from 82 to 87... the "empty years" I left for London in Aug 87 just as the acif thing was happening but I consider the early years the best. Saw The Smiths, Tears for Fears, Grandmaster Flash, Soul Sonic Froce and many others.. Early Hac records - On the upside, Let the music play, Body work, Dub be good to me...
The Legend nightclub with pioneer DJ Greg Wilson driving a mid-week show between 1981-83, nothing compares then and now. Greatest sound, light show and dance extravaganza combo that Manchester has ever produced IMO. How it hardly gets a mention in the pantheon of world nightclubbing is staggering. The Hacienda was only a fledgling operation at the time, it coudnt help but skip along merrily to the mighty beat coming from Legend just a few streets away.
Absolutely agree 100%. Legends way above anything else at the time. I went to the hacienda once and never went back. Why they keep banging on about the hacienda I'll never know. It had no atmosphere and can never get the same status as legends and Greg Wilson
@@josh_bfc_2769 it’s so good to hear someone on the same level, totally agree about dead atmosphere in that Hacienda hype waggon. I went once in 1989 and couldn’t believe how crap it was. I got more of a buzz at my primary school Xmas party in the assembly hall back in the 70s 😂
@@josh_bfc_2769 Legends wasnt the first night club I’d been to, I was 17 yrs old on my first visit there and I honestly cannot remember anything remarkable about the clubs I’d been to before that, and I’d been to quite a few up until then. No other place got the hairs on the back of my neck up when this young DJ (Greg Wilson) worked his magic on the decks and the gorgeous jazz-funk music blasted from the speakers all over the place, the power felt like it was dislodging organs in my body 😂 then the amazing laser lights, mirrors, and dry ice… Unsurprisingly Legend pulled in young people from all over the country at its height 1982/83. I hate queues of more than 3 people, yet I was happily waiting in queues of 100 on occasion to get into that place, and in the rain for good measure 😂 I really miss Legend it wasn’t just another club. It was fantastic because it tied in with everything I love about jazz-funk, R&B, soul music genres and all like minded people were there, UK all-dayer events were announced there as well as on Mike Shafts Piccadilly radio show (TCOB) and the local famous Spin-inn record shop was the other famous place to get the records that you heard at Legend, it was all good, all brilliant and a much missed part of Manchester youth culture life.
I went there a couple of times in 84. Had to take some gear in for a mate called Dave doing sound there one night. He later became the drummer for the band James.
On a 2 week holiday from Canada in early May of 2005, I flew from Amsterdam to Manchester specifically so I could stand infront of the Hac and take in the vibes. After some time walking around, I went to a shop near by for a proper serving of bangers and mash. Once the folks heard my accent they asked me what brought me to Manchester. Once I told them, they all lit up and regaled me with their own stories of their times there, and "getting on one" Great memories!
Went to a night called Flesh at the Hacienda in 1992, lived in Liverpool at the time. It was gay night and it was insane. A mental night out and the music rocked.
History can never record the buzz that was in the air at the time of these sort of events. I'll give that book a read... when the Basque version comes out ;-) All the best mate!!!
Can I have your autograph Leroy hahaha. I first met Leroy when he use to manage Dry. He's a good bloke. Always happy to see you. Hacienda will always be in my heart. Some of my best memories were in the Hac on the 90's.
Got a good deal of rare DC studio cuts from Tony's own stash. When his dad died, Oliver sold incredible stuff from the old man's vault. Regret on not betting on an original urinal when the Hacienda was demolished.
Extremely interesting video. My only regret in life (bearing in mind I WAS a full-on clubber at that time)? Never travelling to the Hac. I did every other club bar this. I apologise.
used to bump his old man now and then Tony Wilson in fog lane park,the Hac was always a mental night out,but prefered the Thunder dome on Rochdale rd,that really was some club man.
+3rk4u Dome was only open for a year or there abouts but what a year... I stumbled up oldham road, tripping with my pal pat from abbey hey, on the night that the thunderdome had its first all nighter.. I missed i think maybe 3 or 4 saturdays until it closed from then on.. and i can even remember what was playing as i walked through the doors. Orange lemon - dream of santa anna. watch?v=csDzaxsFjVs&list=FLBpABGxhsNnFTVOYEXs2-Mw&index=37 And i lost it in the dome, just let myself go...i loved the hac, but there was something very different about the dome..a few hundred kids, who just knew, who cares if it rained sweat inside, it was fucking epic.. I remember being right at the back of the stage one night and some kid chucked his guts up, off his turnip, and looked at me and said 'Mate, never throw up while your tripping'....lol Rave 90's coming soon.
Close your eyes and listen to Shaun Ryder's voice. He is Bernard Manning. You know I'm right. They even look the same in old age. God bless Bernard Ryder.
Im Glasgow. I loved the dancing in that place. it was second to none. Manchester people are best to me. i just love em. fk gooch and moss ect all the gangs im in a fuckin gang. i just love the place. yes im 68
Loved the hacienda and everything it stood for, it totally blew mine and my friends minds and if i could go back i would. But, I do think it should be left where it is, in the past, leaving the crowd wanting more. I don’t agree with those cashing in on the pretence of the future. The kids will turn their backs on it regardless and create their own counter culture and the Hacienda’brand’ will gradually if not already look like the capitalist venture it’s become and totally sell out. It’s finished, let it rest with Tony...
I really fucking wish I could see one good club night at the hacienda back in the 80s, but I agree with your statement. people gotta let it rest and let the new generation build their own culture. hopefully both sides of the atlantic will soon have clubs popping off with the latest sounds made by some plumber's son in his basement studio. love Madchester and its music, best regards from america.
Almost ten years from the time this video was posted. The clubs haven't evolved. Kids now listening to the same music as their parents. Nothing new happening. Nothing of worth anyway. The city has changed. The people have changed. Can Manchester hold onto it's legacy? Should it? The next new big thing should have happened 5 years ago. Still no sign of it. Not from Manchester. Not from anywhere else. And then there is Oliver Wilson. What's he achieved apart from trying to imitate his boomer father? That alone speaks volumes.
Bit weird. Why does he have to have 'achieved' anything, and what's the relevance of his dad being a 'boomer'. Basically just ranting at a cloud, mate.
Why are we still talking about The Hac? Because there hasn’t been a youth culture phenomenon since then. The concept of DJs as performers began there. All dance music since then, from David Guetta to Wretch 32, can trace it's lineage back thru Grime, UK Garage, Jungle, Trance or Rave to The Hac DJs first importing music from Chicago, Detroit & NY. Everything since has been evolution, rather than revolution. There hasn't been another “Big Bang” moment, so we continue to focus on the last one.
I would much rather reminisce on the past, and listen to some of the greatest bands that there ever was over and over again, than listen to the ting tings...
How was Hip Hop the 'big bang' of the 1990's? Although Hip Hop music actually gained some momentum in the UK in the 1990's, The Sugarhill Gang gave us 'Rappers Delight' in 1979, Grandmaster Flash's 'The Message in 1982, not to mention a rake of 1980s Hip Hop acts, from Bambaataa, Kurtis Blow, Run DMC, Beastie Boys. The 90's can not claim Hip Hop as their own. The 1990's gave birth to the Grunge movement with Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Sound Garden etc at the wheel!
did that guy say that it was important to focus on the ting tings, jesus... I will remember the year of 2010 when the generic talky pop sounds of their debut album came out. It's up there with Brotherhood, pills chills and bellyache, definitely maybe and the Stone Roses.
Never went in this gaff at all! By the time I was old enough to go clubbing this place was rife with gangsters and drug dealers and was considered a no go zone by a lot of people, so was worried that I would be taking my life in my hands even going on a tuesday night or something! And anyway no-one would banging on about it being the big “classic” nightclub if it wasn’t owned by Tony Wilson or new order members! I genuinely believe that!!!!
Looks like Caf 51 is gone. I can't find anything about it online except an article from 2009. The website is dead. Does anyone have and knowledge of what happened to the cafe?
Superclubs like Cream etc. where Shite and commercialised personally... I stopped going in 94 - 95... The illegal Blackburn raves, the Hacienda, Quadrant Park and Underground (Liverpool) where best.. 1989 to 1991 where simply the best days !!!
it's a pretty academic book...i have a background in this kind of stuff, but it was still sort of complicated for me at first, the main point is -- as far as i can tell -- sometimes the best way to figure out what pop cultures are doing is to ask the people who were involved in it rather than outsiders who don't get it... I'll bet there are kids rebelling against Gen X today -- in fact I see it! I just hope they take what we did that was good and build upon it, and rebel against our flaws.
When you see footage of people dancing in the hacienda there appears to be a raised podium type thing in front of the stage and around the striped pillars which people danced on, but when shown bare with no one in their not there? As I never went to this venue can someone tell me if tony and new order had them put in later on in the 80's because the place was getting more popular as a club/dance venue than a gig venue?
I completely disagree that we are to forget our big events/times just because they're in the past! I say re-live them and maybe just maybe evolve them for the future but NEVER forget them. Even if one thing stops doesn't mean it'll be gone forever.....develop and mix...sort of like a bowl of punch or a cocktail....you don't know what you'll get until you try.
ps love Bez ...never met him but i'd like too , i used to drink in the Toll Point Denton , and there was a boozer in Glossop , anyway , in my eyes he's a top top fella ...my love to him , star man ...interview him m8 , he will tell ya the truth .....he will tell you
You are right mate. 'Big Bangs' used to happen every ten years! Late 50's: rock and roll. Late 60's: hippies. Late 70's: punks. Late 80's: rave. Late 90's: ???? Late 2000's: ???? There have been some small movements since but nothing big!
Interesting. Tara Brabazon, in her book "From Revolution to Revelation" suggests that "youth culture" is an inappropriate tool for understanding pop culture in what she calls a "post-youth" world. She prefers a methodology of studying collective popular memories of cultural insiders to understand it. In the case of 1990s alt-rock and probably things that came after, I think that is definitely true. The revolutionary meanings will not be televised -- even if the images are on TV. :)
.....smelly old vinyl....classic M.P........the only time which is important is then , it made the future...long live the Hac and all that partied there...fond memories...
"The industrial revolution... the first computer.... the Hacienda..." Fuck me. What a load of bollocks. The Hacienda looked like a nightmare. Glad that all passed me by.
That footage of Wrote for Luck was filmed in Legend, not the Hacienda. Legend in the early 80s was a far superior club to the Hacienda as any Mancunian dance music fan can tell you. Greg Wilson's Wednesday night electro was a match for anything in the Hacienda rave era. And with a far far better sound system.
0:35 I was just gonna say that :) Loved Legends, circa mid-80s, at which time the Hacienda was a freezing cold and empty shed of a place, but the projections were always good fun and there was never a queue at the bar.
Thank God someone else gave Legend a shout, I threw my tuppence worth in a couple of years ago (see a few scrolls down - my rambling epitaph to the monumental event that was a Wednesday night at Legend) The DJ-smith, sound, and light show of that place was never matched by Hacienda IMO
in terms of the WFL video you're right its not the Hac but they've cut the two promo vids that were shot together. There's the one from Legends which is the club scene video but they also did another with loads of kids dancing in it (including Ollie Wilson) and if memory serves that was shot in the Ritz. Legends was a great club. those saying the Hac was empty in the early 80's - you're right in relation to the club nights but it also staged some of the best gigs in Manchester at the time and was often rammed. I went from '83 and loved the place. As a member you could just go in during the week if there was no band on - it could be cold, it was often quiet but for me it was always special
The Hacienda was shite. Went a few times saw Husker Du, The Pogues and Crime and the City Solution there but the atmosphere was terrible. The Brickhouse which opened later down the road was far superior.
He he. Ok, at least now I get your point. I think you are partially right too. But also so am I! It may be boring to hear older generations harping on about their shit but it does not take away plain facts. Can you honestly tell me there has been a youth movement since rave that has been as big? I do not think there has. Not saying that is good or bad, just saying it is a fact. Peace!
Come on mate, nothing big, really? 90's: Hip Hop. It's not a small movement, it's one of the most popular styles of music in the world and has broken down at lot of social boundaries. 00's: Dubstep and Trap are new styles of that era and are heavely influencing popular music and culture right now. The Hacienda was a hugely important time/place. In fact you could state that we would not be here musicly without it. But nothing big since than? Sorry, but that's a bit of an ignorent comment mate.
Oh and I never went to this place because by the time I was old enough to go clubbing in 94/95 this place was considered a no go due to gangster gun violence which no one could control! I wanted to experience it but the horror story's were such that I thought it would be best to leave it until the violence died down which of course never happened and they just shut it end of story! Shame!!!!
bring back the hac bring back the tunes! i am in a hacienda time warp n im only 20! get rid ov 251! its a sham get sum dance in there thats what the hac is about people please!
I went to Manchester a couple of days ago and I must confess I'm fully in love with it. I think you can sense history very much through every street. Personally, I really enjoyed walking around The Hacienda, Deansgate and Salford among others. I wish I could live around. I became obsessed with this lovely city.
Paulina Aguirre xxx
Paulina Aguirre isn't there any tours or museums next too it ? and is the building still there i thought it got demolished in two thousand and two
Hey, there are many rock and roll tours if that's what you're looking for. I decided to do some research first and go to the places I wanted on my own. Regarding the building, it's not there anymore. Now that place is called "The Hacienda Apartments" and although there's only a commemorative plaque, it's cool to walk around there. It's kinda close to Salford, Ritz, The Britons Protection and Deansgate. If you're a Smith fan, you will enjoy it A LOT. Also, New Order and Happy Mondays played some gigs around :)
yes! , thank you for your help :)
+Paulina Aguirre I went to manchester a couple of days ago......Oh hang on ......im born and bred there..lol
I lived right through the hac, from seeing mantronix there joyce simms and t la rock, the roses and the mondays and then being swept up by acid house, detroit techno, chi town house and Graham and mike and jon da silva who rocked my world every friday (nude night) and the Wednesdays with the swimming pool..
And it was epic, and its in my mind and heart until i die and i would change nothing..
but tonys son is right, that was then and you cannot re lived a period in time..
Im sure hooky's club is decent and ive been to the car park under piccy station ,but its just not the same, and mike pickering was right in what he said..
but like you, i love my city and man city....
Obsessed with the music! If going back was an option I'd be living as a Manc in 80's & 90's
Same here mate we missed out 😒
Peter Hooks "How not to run a club" is well worth a read
Good memoirs?
Ran across it a record store a few months ago and reading it now. I hadn't known of the Hac before.
I'm reading it with a highlighter, so I can make a massive Hacienda playlist. It's probably been done already, but I'm not going to check.
@@lovedisaster69 there’s a few playlists on Spotify I’m sure
1990 till 2005 was the greatest days of my life ❤️many thanks for this 🌹
4 of us used to drive down from Glasgow every 2nd friday when we'd finished work n drive back sunday lunchtime fucking loved it.
Joined the Hac in May 82. Met my now wife in Aug 82 at a Delta 5 gig. (Yes 40 years ago). Was a regular from 82 to 87... the "empty years" I left for London in Aug 87 just as the acif thing was happening but I consider the early years the best. Saw The Smiths, Tears for Fears, Grandmaster Flash, Soul Sonic Froce and many others.. Early Hac records - On the upside, Let the music play, Body work, Dub be good to me...
The Legend nightclub with pioneer DJ Greg Wilson driving a mid-week show between 1981-83, nothing compares then and now. Greatest sound, light show and dance extravaganza combo that Manchester has ever produced IMO. How it hardly gets a mention in the pantheon of world nightclubbing is staggering. The Hacienda was only a fledgling operation at the time, it coudnt help but skip along merrily to the mighty beat coming from Legend just a few streets away.
Absolutely agree 100%. Legends way above anything else at the time. I went to the hacienda once and never went back. Why they keep banging on about the hacienda I'll never know. It had no atmosphere and can never get the same status as legends and Greg Wilson
@@josh_bfc_2769 it’s so good to hear someone on the same level, totally agree about dead atmosphere in that Hacienda hype waggon. I went once in 1989 and couldn’t believe how crap it was. I got more of a buzz at my primary school Xmas party in the assembly hall back in the 70s 😂
@@Pulsonar That sound system and lazer show was incredible. I still miss those nights and always will.
@@josh_bfc_2769 Legends wasnt the first night club I’d been to, I was 17 yrs old on my first visit there and I honestly cannot remember anything remarkable about the clubs I’d been to before that, and I’d been to quite a few up until then. No other place got the hairs on the back of my neck up when this young DJ (Greg Wilson) worked his magic on the decks and the gorgeous jazz-funk music blasted from the speakers all over the place, the power felt like it was dislodging organs in my body 😂 then the amazing laser lights, mirrors, and dry ice… Unsurprisingly Legend pulled in young people from all over the country at its height 1982/83. I hate queues of more than 3 people, yet I was happily waiting in queues of 100 on occasion to get into that place, and in the rain for good measure 😂 I really miss Legend it wasn’t just another club. It was fantastic because it tied in with everything I love about jazz-funk, R&B, soul music genres and all like minded people were there, UK all-dayer events were announced there as well as on Mike Shafts Piccadilly radio show (TCOB) and the local famous Spin-inn record shop was the other famous place to get the records that you heard at Legend, it was all good, all brilliant and a much missed part of Manchester youth culture life.
I was at the last night with some good friends, top tunes.
Had a buzzin night, but a sad night.
RIP Hacienda, gone but not forgotten 😛
I went there a couple of times in 84. Had to take some gear in for a mate called Dave doing sound there one night. He later became the drummer for the band James.
On a 2 week holiday from Canada in early May of 2005, I flew from Amsterdam to Manchester specifically so I could stand infront of the Hac and take in the vibes.
After some time walking around, I went to a shop near by for a proper serving of bangers and mash. Once the folks heard my accent they asked me what brought me to Manchester.
Once I told them, they all lit up and regaled me with their own stories of their times there, and "getting on one"
Great memories!
i loved that place, i danced my butt off in there:D
I only managed to make it to the Hacienda once, was a great night.
I was there in ‘91 two weeks in Manchester my English homie took me there one night, as they say fuckin brilliant lol.
I wish I lived in Manchester
He presents like Alan Partridge doing Hamilton's Water Breaks
Hahahaha
A "Hacienda Time Warp" is something I would totally support. BTW, that young man is the spitting image of his late father.
Went to a night called Flesh at the Hacienda in 1992, lived in Liverpool at the time. It was gay night and it was insane. A mental night out and the music rocked.
I loved flesh
History can never record the buzz that was in the air at the time of these sort of events.
I'll give that book a read... when the Basque version comes out ;-)
All the best mate!!!
THE THUNDERDOME -- you will never beat that gaff ,,STE WILLIAMS JAY WEARDEN N THE 808 STATE SPINNMASTERS
I used to go to the club in 1985 - and it was empty most nights...
Yeah - people always seem to forget that it wasn't born a highly successful club, that there were years in the 80's before it took off.
Can I have your autograph Leroy hahaha. I first met Leroy when he use to manage Dry. He's a good bloke. Always happy to see you. Hacienda will always be in my heart. Some of my best memories were in the Hac on the 90's.
Got a good deal of rare DC studio cuts from Tony's own stash. When his dad died, Oliver sold incredible stuff from the old man's vault. Regret on not betting on an original urinal when the Hacienda was demolished.
Wow what a find, I’ve had sessions with Bez, about 9 or 10 year ago at a few places n a flats lmao 😭😂😂
Man i bet they were messy 🤣
Smart young man this Oliver.
Leroy hasn't aged at all ! He looks younger than he used to when he managed dry bar
Is he still in clapped out gullivers
Who else tried turning the screen upside down? Just me then?
Guilty your honour...🤫
Great job Oliver. Dad would be very proud
Extremely interesting video. My only regret in life (bearing in mind I WAS a full-on clubber at that time)? Never travelling to the Hac. I did every other club bar this. I apologise.
used to bump his old man now and then Tony Wilson in fog lane park,the Hac was always a mental night out,but prefered the Thunder dome on Rochdale rd,that really was some club man.
Oldham rd 😂
steph chapman yep my mistake/memory blanks lol.
3rk4u Flash Back!!!
+3rk4u Dome was only open for a year or there abouts but what a year...
I stumbled up oldham road, tripping with my pal pat from abbey hey, on the night that the thunderdome had its first all nighter..
I missed i think maybe 3 or 4 saturdays until it closed from then on..
and i can even remember what was playing as i walked through the doors.
Orange lemon - dream of santa anna. watch?v=csDzaxsFjVs&list=FLBpABGxhsNnFTVOYEXs2-Mw&index=37
And i lost it in the dome, just let myself go...i loved the hac, but there was something very different about the dome..a few hundred kids, who just knew, who cares if it rained sweat inside, it was fucking epic..
I remember being right at the back of the stage one night and some kid chucked his guts up, off his turnip, and looked at me and said 'Mate, never throw up while your tripping'....lol
Rave 90's coming soon.
say what. house music all night long. I truly loved that place. Shout out to all of the Haç heads.
Close your eyes and listen to Shaun Ryder's voice. He is Bernard Manning.
You know I'm right. They even look the same in old age.
God bless Bernard Ryder.
Wednesday night, 1989, Acid night, 5 photo students from Blackpool made the trek every week. Legendary
SHANNON now thats A true haciender track,,,,, LET THE MUSIC PLAY ,, we true dome heads will never fade away,,lol
Let’s not forget the Thunder Dome, Stuffed Olive, Kitchen and Konspiracy
wow looks like his dad
Im Glasgow. I loved the dancing in that place. it was second to none. Manchester people are best to me. i just love em. fk gooch and moss ect all the gangs im in a fuckin gang. i just love the place. yes im 68
Loved the hacienda and everything it stood for, it totally blew mine and my friends minds and if i could go back i would. But, I do think it should be left where it is, in the past, leaving the crowd wanting more. I don’t agree with those cashing in on the pretence of the future. The kids will turn their backs on it regardless and create their own counter culture and the Hacienda’brand’ will gradually if not already look like the capitalist venture it’s become and totally sell out. It’s finished, let it rest with Tony...
I really fucking wish I could see one good club night at the hacienda back in the 80s, but I agree with your statement. people gotta let it rest and let the new generation build their own culture. hopefully both sides of the atlantic will soon have clubs popping off with the latest sounds made by some plumber's son in his basement studio. love Madchester and its music, best regards from america.
Shaun looking and sounding good
Almost ten years from the time this video was posted. The clubs haven't evolved. Kids now listening to the same music as their parents. Nothing new happening. Nothing of worth anyway. The city has changed. The people have changed. Can Manchester hold onto it's legacy? Should it? The next new big thing should have happened 5 years ago. Still no sign of it. Not from Manchester. Not from anywhere else. And then there is Oliver Wilson. What's he achieved apart from trying to imitate his boomer father? That alone speaks volumes.
Bit weird. Why does he have to have 'achieved' anything, and what's the relevance of his dad being a 'boomer'. Basically just ranting at a cloud, mate.
You obvs never been to warehouse project which has been awesome since it’s started over 10 years ago
Why are we still talking about The Hac?
Because there hasn’t been a youth culture phenomenon since then.
The concept of DJs as performers began there. All dance music since then, from David Guetta to Wretch 32, can trace it's lineage back thru Grime, UK Garage, Jungle, Trance or Rave to The Hac DJs first importing music from Chicago, Detroit & NY.
Everything since has been evolution, rather than revolution.
There hasn't been another “Big Bang” moment, so we continue to focus on the last one.
both excellent clubs, neither are going anywhere. If anything they are doing better than ever before, suby especially!
Song at 1:32?
Went once in 91, fucking shit myself, was a scary place by then
I was at the very last Hacienda club night...I'm trying to find footage or pics but we didn't have iPhones back then
Went past the hacienda today it's now apartments x😔
Nice. Gonna paraphrase that last sentence and use it in my dissertation :)
We need to focus on bands like the ting tings.....ya ok Mike 😂😂😂
“Just Popping out mum”
“When will you be back?”
“Errrr ...next year?”
I would much rather reminisce on the past, and listen to some of the greatest bands that there ever was over and over again, than listen to the ting tings...
Stick to the teletubbies
he is the absolute spits of his dad
How was Hip Hop the 'big bang' of the 1990's? Although Hip Hop music actually gained some momentum in the UK in the 1990's, The Sugarhill Gang gave us 'Rappers Delight' in 1979, Grandmaster Flash's 'The Message in 1982, not to mention a rake of 1980s Hip Hop acts, from Bambaataa, Kurtis Blow, Run DMC, Beastie Boys. The 90's can not claim Hip Hop as their own. The 1990's gave birth to the Grunge movement with Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Sound Garden etc at the wheel!
did that guy say that it was important to focus on the ting tings, jesus...
I will remember the year of 2010 when the generic talky pop sounds of their debut album came out. It's up there with Brotherhood, pills chills and bellyache, definitely maybe and the Stone Roses.
Never went in this gaff at all! By the time I was old enough to go clubbing this place was rife with gangsters and drug dealers and was considered a no go zone by a lot of people, so was worried that I would be taking my life in my hands even going on a tuesday night or something! And anyway no-one would banging on about it being the big “classic” nightclub if it wasn’t owned by Tony Wilson or new order members! I genuinely believe that!!!!
You really missed out. The gangs kept themselves to themselves. Well if no one was pissing them off anyway hahaha. Some good nights in there.
@Kumpich shannon "Let the music play"
Loved the hac but the quad smashed it
How many people recognise themselves from the Hacienda footage!!? Was this Tony Wilson’s own footage in the club throughout?
Looks like Caf 51 is gone. I can't find anything about it online except an article from 2009. The website is dead. Does anyone have and knowledge of what happened to the cafe?
Superclubs like Cream etc. where Shite and commercialised personally... I stopped going in 94 - 95... The illegal Blackburn raves, the Hacienda, Quadrant Park and Underground (Liverpool) where best.. 1989 to 1991 where simply the best days !!!
it's a pretty academic book...i have a background in this kind of stuff, but it was still sort of complicated for me at first, the main point is -- as far as i can tell -- sometimes the best way to figure out what pop cultures are doing is to ask the people who were involved in it rather than outsiders who don't get it...
I'll bet there are kids rebelling against Gen X today -- in fact I see it! I just hope they take what we did that was good and build upon it, and rebel against our flaws.
@acewindows9398 It's only a quick snippet, but I think it's Beats Workin' "Sure Beats Workin"
warehouseproject is booming ! peace out
What's the song at 1:32 anyone, plz!
BEATS WORKIN' - SURE BEATS WORKIN' (BALEARIC MIX) - 1988
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When you see footage of people dancing in the hacienda there appears to be a raised podium type thing in front of the stage and around the striped pillars which people danced on, but when shown bare with no one in their not there? As I never went to this venue can someone tell me if tony and new order had them put in later on in the 80's because the place was getting more popular as a club/dance venue than a gig venue?
thanks 4 that fac191 been wanting 2 no the name that 4 months
good times with my man xxx / A/f - Acid dave for ever.
I completely disagree that we are to forget our big events/times just because they're in the past! I say re-live them and maybe just maybe evolve them for the future but NEVER forget them. Even if one thing stops doesn't mean it'll be gone forever.....develop and mix...sort of like a bowl of punch or a cocktail....you don't know what you'll get until you try.
dose anyone were i can gett the full mixs of this plezz
wots the tune called @ 1:32 pls?
Any one know that second song? After happy Mondays?
ps love Bez ...never met him but i'd like too , i used to drink in the Toll Point Denton , and there was a boozer in Glossop , anyway , in my eyes he's a top top fella ...my love to him , star man ...interview him m8 , he will tell ya the truth .....he will tell you
You are right mate.
'Big Bangs' used to happen every ten years!
Late 50's: rock and roll.
Late 60's: hippies.
Late 70's: punks.
Late 80's: rave.
Late 90's: ????
Late 2000's: ????
There have been some small movements since but nothing big!
Oasis and the start of English alternative rock could be up their
Interesting.
Tara Brabazon, in her book "From Revolution to Revelation" suggests that "youth culture" is an inappropriate tool for understanding pop culture in what she calls a "post-youth" world. She prefers a methodology of studying collective popular memories of cultural insiders to understand it. In the case of 1990s alt-rock and probably things that came after, I think that is definitely true. The revolutionary meanings will not be televised -- even if the images are on TV. :)
Can anyone tell me the name and artist of the song that begins at 2.13?
The Happy Mondays
cfcMalky Bizarre Love Triangle by New Order
cfcMalky
Na! New Order!
New Order - Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone remix)
imagine being 4 in a night club loool
wish i could of gone! whp and sankeys are the biggest nights in manchester now id say?
.....smelly old vinyl....classic M.P........the only time which is important is then , it made the future...long live the Hac and all that partied there...fond memories...
I love smelly old vinyl
"The industrial revolution... the first computer.... the Hacienda..."
Fuck me.
What a load of bollocks.
The Hacienda looked like a nightmare.
Glad that all passed me by.
what's the song which starts on 5:24
Shannon let the music play
It's 'Bizarre Love Triangle' by New Order :-)
Anyone know the Track at 4.00
Kraftwerk - tour de france
That footage of Wrote for Luck was filmed in Legend, not the Hacienda. Legend in the early 80s was a far superior club to the Hacienda as any Mancunian dance music fan can tell you. Greg Wilson's Wednesday night electro was a match for anything in the Hacienda rave era. And with a far far better sound system.
0:35 I was just gonna say that :) Loved Legends, circa mid-80s, at which time the Hacienda was a freezing cold and empty shed of a place, but the projections were always good fun and there was never a queue at the bar.
Thank God someone else gave Legend a shout, I threw my tuppence worth in a couple of years ago (see a few scrolls down - my rambling epitaph to the monumental event that was a Wednesday night at Legend) The DJ-smith, sound, and light show of that place was never matched by Hacienda IMO
in terms of the WFL video you're right its not the Hac but they've cut the two promo vids that were shot together. There's the one from Legends which is the club scene video but they also did another with loads of kids dancing in it (including Ollie Wilson) and if memory serves that was shot in the Ritz. Legends was a great club. those saying the Hac was empty in the early 80's - you're right in relation to the club nights but it also staged some of the best gigs in Manchester at the time and was often rammed. I went from '83 and loved the place. As a member you could just go in during the week if there was no band on - it could be cold, it was often quiet but for me it was always special
The Hacienda was shite. Went a few times saw Husker Du, The Pogues and Crime and the City Solution there but the atmosphere was terrible. The Brickhouse which opened later down the road was far superior.
Does anyone know the name of the track starting at 2:13?
Bizarre Love Triangle
What is the song at the 8:00? Pls
That's what I wanna know
Pity all the good clubs are now knocked down. And with them went the scene
Does anyone know the song that starts at 1:30 min ??? fucking tune!!
I've been searching for months!
@@kristianeacott8300 I found it! ruclips.net/video/_BpWjG_10gY/видео.html
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He he. Ok, at least now I get your point. I think you are partially right too.
But also so am I!
It may be boring to hear older generations harping on about their shit but it does not take away plain facts. Can you honestly tell me there has been a youth movement since rave that has been as big?
I do not think there has.
Not saying that is good or bad, just saying it is a fact. Peace!
What’s the track at 5:28 ?
Let the Music Play, by Shannon
Bizarre Love Triangle by New Order
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Come on mate, nothing big, really? 90's: Hip Hop. It's not a small movement, it's one of the most popular styles of music in the world and has broken down at lot of social boundaries. 00's: Dubstep and Trap are new styles of that era and are heavely influencing popular music and culture right now.
The Hacienda was a hugely important time/place. In fact you could state that we would not be here musicly without it. But nothing big since than? Sorry, but that's a bit of an ignorent comment mate.
Oh and I never went to this place because by the time I was old enough to go clubbing in 94/95 this place was considered a no go due to gangster gun violence which no one could control! I wanted to experience it but the horror story's were such that I thought it would be best to leave it until the violence died down which of course never happened and they just shut it end of story! Shame!!!!
wheres our statue?
Eh?? was that supposed to be an answer to my post?
i dont agree, search "The Super Shindig" on youtube
madchester sound
The bloody Ting Tings? You’re having a laugh mate.
Konspiracy and the Thunderdome... ✊
bring back the hac bring back the tunes! i am in a hacienda time warp n im only 20!
get rid ov 251! its a sham get sum dance in there thats what the hac is about people please!
How did it end up? Did things work out for you?