Thanks VERY MUCH! I saw the first video and this one, and, in short, was also successful! I had several other issues after the MB change before completing my Win11 upgrade, but it has been successful. These videos really helped begin the process. Thanks!
Hm. Didn't work on two subsequent computers. One difference these two had over the one that did work was that they had SSDs (because of format type?). Anyway, I'm done, and glad it's over with. Thx again.
I tried and all my drivers are conflicting with my old ones so I think I need to do a fresh install. I can’t even apply the new drivers for new board via usb. Especially after I flashed the bios.
Amazing...just a wonderful presentation...maybe a little too conversational, but for that style , really good...after all the rubbish on the internet about the dangers of swapping parts, your experience is just amazing...Im doing it, thanks to you.
@@PIFDIY Did you press y or n twice when it showed the ami screen, just asking because I am upgrading my motherboard and don't want to make a mistake that makes me have to lose everything and have to go through the trouble of installing everything again, so I'm swapping my current motherboard with LGA 1151 Chip Set, Intel core i7 8th gen processor, and DDR4 RAM, to a new motherboard that still has DDR4 RAM, but has a LGA 1700 Chip Set, and a Intel core i7 12th gen processor
This is just what I was trying to find, seen so many split opinions of it and nothing solid. This is pretty much irrefutable proof that on the same installation it does work. I'm doing a similar upgrade, both mobo and CPU(MSI x470 Gaming Plus Max, and Ryzen 7 2700x), to the am5 platform(MSI B650 Gaming Plus Wifi, and Ryzen 7 7700x), same Windows 10 installation(Win10 home). Although I might turn off secure boot and TPM before making the switch, would turning those off matter or not really? EDIT: Did the change recently a couple weeks ago. No reinstall of windows required. No issues also. What did surprise me is that I no longer had to call microsoft to get a new license
@@NovaDoll Before the swap, I turned off secure boot and TPM, I haven't found answer regarding those so I turned them off to be sure, since the mobo and CPU had them on by default. Once I started gutting the PC, I just swapped the two out, put them in and made sure everything is in where it needs to go, and it booted just fine. Is your PC not booting?
@@NovaDoll If you're hard drive is not formatted to GPT and is on MBR, that *may* be what's causing it, and if so would require a reinstall if I'm not mistaken unless you formatted it to gpt beforehand. Since modern mobos are on UEFI now instead of Legacy/CSM
A good method for motherboard switch, is to go into safe mode, uninstall and delete all drivers related to motherboard. boot into safe mode after motherboard switch to install new mobo drivers. should work. I have upgraded my windows 3 times and from intel to amd.
Thanks. I agree, if it's crucial that you have a success, using Safe mode to prevent Windows from loading drivers would reduce risk of conflicts with the new install. Still though, there is a lot of empirical evidence that it's not necessary.
I just changed mobo and cpu. no issues at all. different mobo brand as well(make sure your bios version supports the cpu is all). you get an fTMP prompt tho answering with Y or N regarding a bitlocker.
Good point about the compatibility of BIOS and cpus. This is also really important with your memory sticks as well, especially with AMD. Incompatible components will make it seem like you have a DOA mobo.
@@PIFDIY question on this BIOS Update, do i update it after i install the new mother board or before? it should be after right? because its two different mobos that have two different bios type i guess? and on the fTMP i should just choose yes right?
*just a lil info* I remember (13 yrs ago?) switching my HDD to a Sabertooth x58 /i7-950 with Windows 7 (I had no clue that I SHOULDN'T have, I just assumed... ) and had no issues except for the Product key thing... few minute chat w/ Microsoft, I told them: new PC/ HDD swap & They gave me a Digital Key. (they thought I was running 2 PCs w/ same Os) since then, I've upgraded to ssd (cloned hdd using Macrium) upgrades to w10 pro (free x) with no issues. (just some weird folders here n there w/ numbers for names but not sure of their relevance) *finally upgrading my cpu & mb (i7-- 2600k (maybe) but if you ever need someone to take your used CPU and MB 😁sheesh) Thanx for the refresher/info (gonna make a backup this time x)
I can't get mine to boot at all. I'm so frustrated. I have always taken my drive with me and never needed to do anything crazy since 2015. I have even cloned my drive and can't get it to boot. Any advice. I'm going from AM4 to AM5. Old NVME works fine on current computer.
@@NovaDoll Could be something wrong with the drive's MBR. If you can boot into Window's recovery, you should be able to repair it. Might have to Google this for information on how to fix MBR.
So I wanna go from my gigabyte b450m s2h to gigabyte aorus b550 ax v2. I should just install the new mobo and boot up? I also probably need to update the bios on the mobo using a flash drive and press the q flash button. Do you think it will work fine? Also if it would require a windows clean installation what exactly would indicate that and how would I do it? I hope I’m not annoying lol
You should be able to just swap the motherboard and boot. Before you do, back up everything. Also, have a copy of Windows installer on a bootable USB. If you're not familiar with this, google it and follow the tutorial on Microsoft's website. You'll only need this if the motherboard swap doesn't work off your current Windows installation which is unlikely, but better to be prepared. Unless you need to update Bios to work with your cpu/ram, I wouldn't do the update until after the new motherboard is installed and everything is up and running.
Did it work for you? I'm doing exactly the same motherboard change (Gigabyte B450m DSH3 to Asus ROG Strix B550-f Gaming WiFi II) Do you have any problem with the drivers? Or do you have any stability problem?
DO you actually know how much performance is left on the table vs complete clean install? Can you test it with an external Windows 2 Go Live Install maybe? would be interesting to know.
ive been trying to brute-force getting my windows 10 install to work on new hardware for like ten hours now... i spent most of that time in the command prompt trying to get to the bottom of it, without success.
you need to clean everything and reinstall windows if you go from intel to an AMD upgrade. before you do that, you have to backup your important folder that you can’t afford to lose it.
I currently have an MSI AMD B450 motherboard with a Ryzen 5 2600 and an Nvidia GeForce 1650 super graphics card. I'm really wanting to upgrade to the MSI AMD B550, Ryzen 5 5600x, and an MSI RTX 3060. Since I currently use windows 10, would this mean I can simply plug my existing hard drives into the upgraded motherboard, processor, and graphics card and have no issues since they're both AM4?
So, I have a Gigabyte Gaming B8-CF motherboard, had it for a good long while. And I'm not sure where to even begin the upgrade for it. Had a friend help me a little and it seems like everything I can upgrade to is only compatible with DDR5 (Only have DDR4) and a higher end cpu I don't have. (Currently have Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz). Any way you could offer some advice? Would definitely help a ton, if not that's fine I can figure it out eventually :)
Ok, so I've been away from Intel for a few generations so maybe someone else can chime in and add to my info. I don't know what you currently have for a cpu, but if you wanted to stay with your motherboard and ram, it looks like the fastest supported cpu is an i7-7700k which you can get used on ebay for about $100. Just drop it in and go. Sometimes manufacturers release BIOS versions that support more than the original list of cpus. You could look into this and see if the motherboard could support a more current cpu. The latest Intel motherboards use socket LGA 1700 and you should be able to find many that support DDR4. So technically, you could buy a new Intel motherboard and cpu, then use your current DDR4 memory. As for AMD, if you got to the latest AMD platform, the motherboards use socket AM5 and they only support DDR5 so you'd be buying all new motherboard, cpu and ram. But, you can still buy brand new previous generation AM4 motherboards and cpus that support your current DDR4 memory. Those cpus are still very fast even though they're a generation old. Hope this helps.
I going from asus prime-a ax b650 to a asus rog strix b650e with same cpu and dont know what i need to do if it will not delete my game files or reuse my windows ?im using same ssd drive.if someone can shed some light on this for me would help.❤
In a worse case, you'll need to reinstall windows and your game files (and whatever else is important). So, the best strategy is to back up everything you care about and then give it a try. If you're unsure how to install windows from scratch, there are plenty of tutorials online.
Alr hear me out i know this aint reddit but idk that neardy stuff. If i change my MBO ( form intel 10gen compatible to am4) and my CPU and i just shove in my old used SSD that has everything on it and just turn on my pc, will it work fine? Btw ill buy a gigabyte MBO.
I have gigabyte b250m gaming 3 and intel i5 6500 and im upgrading to aprus b550m elite and ryzen 5 5600x rn i dont have a activation key and i have that watermark but before i swap out everything im gonna buy a key.. is there going to be any problem when i swap like files/data lost? Im not changing my ssd tho..
Logitech 4.1 THX speakers! Those are fantastic. I have mine and sadly I don’t use it anymore. The volume knob crackles so loud. I used the spray cleaner and a few weeks crackling again.
Good eye! Yup, still surprises me how good they sound so many years later! I also have the volume knob issue, but if you don't use it, no crackles lol. I just have the Logitech's volume set high and use the Windows system volume to change volume. Easy to do with the volume adjustment knob built into my Corsair keyboard. You really need to hook them back up!
Whats so special about this? Most tech channels use the same windows install on the same SSD to test each of their new builds. So the same system is probs used on dozens of different builds every month or so, and it always works. Don't see no reason why it shouldn't work, really. It always worked for me.
Christ... I really want to do this too... I have a Z490-E mobo and i9 10900k cpu and I really want to upgrade to something new as well... but I am scared...
Update i7 7700k z270 msi to i7 14700k z790 asus and after windows update and armourycrate updates all runs fine. Benchmarks ok, games like cyberpunk, star wars outlaws . Vs2022 check. All i want todo now is cleanup and update to w11, even when it doesnt seems a need. Well its not w98 or xp anymore. 🙂 Windows actually made some good improvements.
Never upgraded your computers cpu or motherboard I see. Lets just say Microsoft thinks you should have to buy another license if you do and the rest of the world does not.
Well if you had built a computer with windows 95, 98 etc you would have to perform a brand new install. Things were not as integrated as they are now. Drivers did not play well together, especially registry keys etc.
Thanks for clarifying ❤
I just bought new CPU and Motherboard and was afraid that i need to erase everything.
same here
Thanks VERY MUCH! I saw the first video and this one, and, in short, was also successful! I had several other issues after the MB change before completing my Win11 upgrade, but it has been successful. These videos really helped begin the process. Thanks!
Hm. Didn't work on two subsequent computers. One difference these two had over the one that did work was that they had SSDs (because of format type?). Anyway, I'm done, and glad it's over with. Thx again.
I tried and all my drivers are conflicting with my old ones so I think I need to do a fresh install. I can’t even apply the new drivers for new board via usb. Especially after I flashed the bios.
Amazing...just a wonderful presentation...maybe a little too conversational, but for that style , really good...after all the rubbish on the internet about the dangers of swapping parts, your experience is just amazing...Im doing it, thanks to you.
Thanks and good luck!
@@PIFDIY Did you press y or n twice when it showed the ami screen, just asking because I am upgrading my motherboard and don't want to make a mistake that makes me have to lose everything and have to go through the trouble of installing everything again, so I'm swapping my current motherboard with LGA 1151 Chip Set, Intel core i7 8th gen processor, and DDR4 RAM, to a new motherboard that still has DDR4 RAM, but has a LGA 1700 Chip Set, and a Intel core i7 12th gen processor
@@evanthetailedbeast Hit yes to reset
@@PIFDIY ok thank you but what happens if you press no
@@evanthetailedbeast You'll be prompted every time you boot until you press "yes".
This is just what I was trying to find, seen so many split opinions of it and nothing solid. This is pretty much irrefutable proof that on the same installation it does work. I'm doing a similar upgrade, both mobo and CPU(MSI x470 Gaming Plus Max, and Ryzen 7 2700x), to the am5 platform(MSI B650 Gaming Plus Wifi, and Ryzen 7 7700x), same Windows 10 installation(Win10 home). Although I might turn off secure boot and TPM before making the switch, would turning those off matter or not really?
EDIT: Did the change recently a couple weeks ago. No reinstall of windows required. No issues also. What did surprise me is that I no longer had to call microsoft to get a new license
What did you do? Mine wont work and I've always had painless upgrades
@@NovaDoll Before the swap, I turned off secure boot and TPM, I haven't found answer regarding those so I turned them off to be sure, since the mobo and CPU had them on by default.
Once I started gutting the PC, I just swapped the two out, put them in and made sure everything is in where it needs to go, and it booted just fine.
Is your PC not booting?
@@raevenent751 Nope goes straight into bios. Trying a few more things.
@@NovaDoll If you're hard drive is not formatted to GPT and is on MBR, that *may* be what's causing it, and if so would require a reinstall if I'm not mistaken unless you formatted it to gpt beforehand. Since modern mobos are on UEFI now instead of Legacy/CSM
@@raevenent751 question on this, it should be fine right if my ssd boot drive is already on gpt? the rest of my hard drive is still on MBR tho.
A good method for motherboard switch, is to go into safe mode, uninstall and delete all drivers related to motherboard. boot into safe mode after motherboard switch to install new mobo drivers. should work. I have upgraded my windows 3 times and from intel to amd.
Thanks. I agree, if it's crucial that you have a success, using Safe mode to prevent Windows from loading drivers would reduce risk of conflicts with the new install. Still though, there is a lot of empirical evidence that it's not necessary.
I just changed mobo and cpu. no issues at all. different mobo brand as well(make sure your bios version supports the cpu is all). you get an fTMP prompt tho answering with Y or N regarding a bitlocker.
Good point about the compatibility of BIOS and cpus. This is also really important with your memory sticks as well, especially with AMD. Incompatible components will make it seem like you have a DOA mobo.
Hi there, do you have to answer with Y on that prompt?
@@PIFDIY question on this BIOS Update, do i update it after i install the new mother board or before? it should be after right? because its two different mobos that have two different bios type i guess? and on the fTMP i should just choose yes right?
@@nickp4872 Hi, hit yes to reset
@@runahidra You can update the BIOS on the new motherboard afterwards. For fTMP, hit yes
What a time to be alive.
Seven months later did you run into any issues?
Thanks for your comments on Win 10. BTW Zs, gotta love'em, I have a 1990.
*just a lil info*
I remember (13 yrs ago?) switching my HDD to a Sabertooth x58 /i7-950 with Windows 7 (I had no clue that I SHOULDN'T have, I just assumed... ) and had no issues except for the Product key thing... few minute chat w/ Microsoft, I told them: new PC/ HDD swap & They gave me a Digital Key. (they thought I was running 2 PCs w/ same Os)
since then, I've upgraded to ssd (cloned hdd using Macrium) upgrades to w10 pro (free x) with no issues.
(just some weird folders here n there w/ numbers for names but not sure of their relevance)
*finally upgrading my cpu & mb (i7-- 2600k (maybe) but if you ever need someone to take your used CPU and MB 😁sheesh)
Thanx for the refresher/info (gonna make a backup this time x)
but the problem is the read of the cores in the windows itself. . .
I can't get mine to boot at all. I'm so frustrated. I have always taken my drive with me and never needed to do anything crazy since 2015. I have even cloned my drive and can't get it to boot. Any advice. I'm going from AM4 to AM5. Old NVME works fine on current computer.
Can you get into BIOS? Does BIOS see the boot drive?
I have the same issue. mine boots straight to bios says my drive is there but not Bootable
@@PIFDIY Yes. Had to rebuilt my EFI
@@NovaDoll Could be something wrong with the drive's MBR. If you can boot into Window's recovery, you should be able to repair it. Might have to Google this for information on how to fix MBR.
@@PIFDIY I had to rebuild the UFI. Works perfectly now. Thank you!!
So I wanna go from my gigabyte b450m s2h to gigabyte aorus b550 ax v2. I should just install the new mobo and boot up? I also probably need to update the bios on the mobo using a flash drive and press the q flash button. Do you think it will work fine? Also if it would require a windows clean installation what exactly would indicate that and how would I do it? I hope I’m not annoying lol
You should be able to just swap the motherboard and boot. Before you do, back up everything. Also, have a copy of Windows installer on a bootable USB. If you're not familiar with this, google it and follow the tutorial on Microsoft's website. You'll only need this if the motherboard swap doesn't work off your current Windows installation which is unlikely, but better to be prepared. Unless you need to update Bios to work with your cpu/ram, I wouldn't do the update until after the new motherboard is installed and everything is up and running.
Did it work for you? I'm doing exactly the same motherboard change (Gigabyte B450m DSH3 to Asus ROG Strix B550-f Gaming WiFi II) Do you have any problem with the drivers? Or do you have any stability problem?
I upgraded from am4 to am5 and my pc boots and says i have 2 drives, but neither are Bootable im not sure whats going on?
DO you actually know how much performance is left on the table vs complete clean install? Can you test it with an external Windows 2 Go Live Install maybe? would be interesting to know.
Interesting idea. Maybe a subject for another video? To get a true baseline, I'd also have to do a fresh install to compare against W2G...hmmm
I have done it both ways and never found a compelling reason to do a fresh install.
Around 11:10, did you hit N or Y?
Hit Y to reset
ive been trying to brute-force getting my windows 10 install to work on new hardware for like ten hours now...
i spent most of that time in the command prompt trying to get to the bottom of it, without success.
i’m about to do the same and don’t have a windows license should i get one beforehand or should i be fine?
My B460m motherboard just died. If swap it with h510m bord, Will all my data will be safe? Or i will lost them
Did you ever do a Benchmark before and after swapping MB? I'm wondering if the performance is correct after such a upgrade. Thanks
No, never benchmarked. But my FPS in games is right in the range of others with similar hardware. If there's a performance hit, it's imperceptible.
What if you go from Intel to an AMD upgrade?
Chances are very good that you'll be fine. Back up and give it a try!
you need to clean everything and reinstall windows if you go from intel to an AMD upgrade. before you do that, you have to backup your important folder that you can’t afford to lose it.
@indrahaseo what if I go from amd to amd?
I currently have an MSI AMD B450 motherboard with a Ryzen 5 2600 and an Nvidia GeForce 1650 super graphics card. I'm really wanting to upgrade to the MSI AMD B550, Ryzen 5 5600x, and an MSI RTX 3060. Since I currently use windows 10, would this mean I can simply plug my existing hard drives into the upgraded motherboard, processor, and graphics card and have no issues since they're both AM4?
Chances are very good that it would work just fine. Backup anything that you can’t afford to lose, just to be safe.
Why upgrade from an AM4 motherboard to another AM4 motherboard?
So, I have a Gigabyte Gaming B8-CF motherboard, had it for a good long while. And I'm not sure where to even begin the upgrade for it. Had a friend help me a little and it seems like everything I can upgrade to is only compatible with DDR5 (Only have DDR4) and a higher end cpu I don't have. (Currently have Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz).
Any way you could offer some advice? Would definitely help a ton, if not that's fine I can figure it out eventually :)
Ok, so I've been away from Intel for a few generations so maybe someone else can chime in and add to my info.
I don't know what you currently have for a cpu, but if you wanted to stay with your motherboard and ram, it looks like the fastest supported cpu is an i7-7700k which you can get used on ebay for about $100. Just drop it in and go. Sometimes manufacturers release BIOS versions that support more than the original list of cpus. You could look into this and see if the motherboard could support a more current cpu.
The latest Intel motherboards use socket LGA 1700 and you should be able to find many that support DDR4. So technically, you could buy a new Intel motherboard and cpu, then use your current DDR4 memory.
As for AMD, if you got to the latest AMD platform, the motherboards use socket AM5 and they only support DDR5 so you'd be buying all new motherboard, cpu and ram. But, you can still buy brand new previous generation AM4 motherboards and cpus that support your current DDR4 memory. Those cpus are still very fast even though they're a generation old.
Hope this helps.
@@PIFDIY It does help, I appreciate your response a heck of alot, thank you! d:
I going from asus prime-a ax b650 to a asus rog strix b650e with same cpu and dont know what i need to do if it will not delete my game files or reuse my windows ?im using same ssd drive.if someone can shed some light on this for me would help.❤
In a worse case, you'll need to reinstall windows and your game files (and whatever else is important). So, the best strategy is to back up everything you care about and then give it a try. If you're unsure how to install windows from scratch, there are plenty of tutorials online.
I can't see my boot drive in boot options :/
Alr hear me out i know this aint reddit but idk that neardy stuff. If i change my MBO ( form intel 10gen compatible to am4) and my CPU and i just shove in my old used SSD that has everything on it and just turn on my pc, will it work fine? Btw ill buy a gigabyte MBO.
Very good chance that it'll work fine. That said, back up anything you can't stand to lose.
I have gigabyte b250m gaming 3 and intel i5 6500 and im upgrading to aprus b550m elite and ryzen 5 5600x rn i dont have a activation key and i have that watermark but before i swap out everything im gonna buy a key.. is there going to be any problem when i swap like files/data lost? Im not changing my ssd tho..
Backup everything and then give it a try. Most people have had no problem upgrading their motherboard and cpu without reinstalling Windows.
So do you think a b550 to x670 upgrade would work without a reinstall
Yes, chances are good that it'll work fine.
Logitech 4.1 THX speakers!
Those are fantastic. I have mine and sadly I don’t use it anymore. The volume knob crackles so loud. I used the spray cleaner and a few weeks crackling again.
Good eye! Yup, still surprises me how good they sound so many years later! I also have the volume knob issue, but if you don't use it, no crackles lol. I just have the Logitech's volume set high and use the Windows system volume to change volume. Easy to do with the volume adjustment knob built into my Corsair keyboard. You really need to hook them back up!
What happens to a system if I swap out cpu’s only. Would windows act weird?
No, it should run just fine.
That's a much easier upgrade. You shouldn't have a problem with it.
Im trying to do this but i'm upgrading from Am3 to Am4 will it still work?
You should be fine. Many have gone from AM3 to AM4 without a problem.
7 months later, did any problems come up or did everything run perfectly fine after the swap?
Still working great!
Clever.
Have you sold the old rig?
Yep, long gone.
Whats so special about this? Most tech channels use the same windows install on the same SSD to test each of their new builds. So the same system is probs used on dozens of different builds every month or so, and it always works. Don't see no reason why it shouldn't work, really. It always worked for me.
From what I've been reading, it's quite a divisive mindset on "Yes you absolutely should" to "No you don't need to"
Christ... I really want to do this too... I have a Z490-E mobo and i9 10900k cpu and I really want to upgrade to something new as well... but I am scared...
I took my SSD from my old Alienware and put it in my new rebuilt pc and no issues
Update i7 7700k z270 msi to i7 14700k z790 asus and after windows update and armourycrate updates all runs fine. Benchmarks ok, games like cyberpunk, star wars outlaws . Vs2022 check. All i want todo now is cleanup and update to w11, even when it doesnt seems a need. Well its not w98 or xp anymore. 🙂 Windows actually made some good improvements.
Nice!
this is completely normal and absolutely nothing special. why should you reinstall windows?
yeah i dont get the amazement
Never upgraded your computers cpu or motherboard I see. Lets just say Microsoft thinks you should have to buy another license if you do and the rest of the world does not.
@@danielmurray1805 I have multiple times, its very common, the licences are now all digitalised, so its assigned to your Microsoft account not the PC
Well if you had built a computer with windows 95, 98 etc you would have to perform a brand new install. Things were not as integrated as they are now. Drivers did not play well together, especially registry keys etc.
Jesus Christ dat cable management.
it is 2024.. i am just about to upgrade my am3+ to am4... hahaha
It's time brother!
how big of a monitor do you want pif diy YES