5 Years With The Submariner - How My Perceptions Of The Most Iconic Rolex Watch Have Changed
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- Опубликовано: 18 янв 2018
- In the coming weeks, I’ll celebrate the 5 year anniversary marking the acquisition of my Rolex Submariner (Reference 116610LN) for a milestone birthday.
The Sub (or Subby as I call it) has always been a grail watch for me, and out of all the watches in my current collection, it’s the one I’ve had the pleasure of owning for the longest time. One could almost say it’s a pillar of the collection or the main battleship of the fleet!
In this video I discuss the general perception of the watch among enthusiasts, how it relates to other watches I own or have experienced, my own changing feelings towards it, and what I would like to change about it if I could. Do I still consider this the greatest Rolex watch of all time? Watch to find out!
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Seiko should pay for your travel to Japan, you have been such an ambassador
TheWesty55 you are right for sure. Tgv changed the way I look at Seiko generally. I'm a newbie watch owner and already own a Seiko thanks to tgv!
I bought 4 Seikos in one year because of tgv!!! I'm addicted!!!
Agreed!
So true. I already bought 2 SKX because of TGV.
I wholeheartedly conquer. I'm currently wearing a SARB033 with a black Colareb strap thanks to TGV :)
The way you talk about it makes me feel like it's the only watch you should never sell... Sell the ones you cannot make a video like this about.
Very wise and true point.
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
Great comment!
And this is what I truly love about your channel, you discuss thoughts and ideas we all have. You love your watches (as do I) for what they mean to YOU and not what the average person will think of you. You sir are pure class and I very much appreciate it. Get well soon, my prayers are for a quick recovery.
Laughed so hard at the bezel click thing. That was filthy XD
Justin Soong
Quite possibly the funniest thing I’ve ever seen on this channel.
It is hillarious for sure I wonder if he had any previous ecperience in that genre? We have all been young and in need of money and all that jazz 😂
It aroused me!!
Don't sell it. You will regret it when it's gone. Find another way to finance your travel ambitions and take the sub along for the ride!
It represents a milestone in your life, in my book it's a keeper, can't get the same one back. Cheers
I love everyone of your video, I usually look at them after work in the evening and your knowledge and your delivery help me to chill and learn something new. I was a watch aficionado but my dad was and you’re helping to understand his passion better.
Greetings from Berlin from a Roman born and breed guy.
This is the 41st year that I have owned my Submariner 5513. I received it at 17 when I joined the military (from my Mother). The watch has been around the world, been through combat from the jungle to the desert, been through aviation crashes, fires, it was on my wrist when severely wounded, it has been covered in blood, both mine and others that I tried to save (some yes, others no). While it is only a watch, it will never just be a watch, it is a testimony of a life lived. I started a large collection of watches about 15 years ago, but it will always be the one watch that is synonymous with my life, my scarred and battered, dinged and scratched, always faithful Rolex Submariner. It will be with me until I am gone.
best regards, D
THE I hate to say it. But for real you are correct in thinking of selling it. Experiences in life by far trumps any watch in my collection. It's a tough one. I'm disabled so I would probably always choose experience over my beloved Submariner 14060M in my own collection. Life is extremely fragile and can be taken so easily. I would go for it and go experience Japan. Excellent video my friend. Good luck with whatever you decide. Bottom line is enjoy life for every second you can. Cheers.
Thank you sir for such a profound comment and advice
I could not agree more with your last sentence! Onwards and upwards.
Best regards,
TGV
But for me, if I went to Japan... I would have to buy a Grand Seiko to mark the occasion 😩
Follow your heart. If you wish to sell it to fund your travels then by all means go for it. It's a bold move but the rewards could be even greater.
How can anyone dislike your videos, they are just marvelous, utterly beautiful watches, great editing. Overall the videos are just a joy to watch. They just put a smile on my face every time I see you upload
Best regards,
Urh Brvar
I've got a rule... Never buy 2 watches of the same brand / house in my nice box.. So u have 3 Rolex... Sell the one with less sentimental value and live it worth... Buon Viaggio
Honestly, If I could ever afford a submariner, I would keep it forever and pass it down only after I die to someone in my family who would love it and take care of it just like me.
Alexandre de Sousa I can understand how you feel. Just consider how he's able to enjoy many watches and that he has the opportunity to travel at his young age. Life is far too short. He's at least had the experience of the Subby for 5 years already.
Alexandre de Sousa get the 16800 or 16610 than. I think these are true subs. The ceramic is dare I say gauche and bulky.
Lend it to a good friend for 6 months. If you don‘t miss it, sell it. If your buddy was wearing it in those 6 months, he‘ll probably want to buy it from you anyway. 😊
TGV, In my humble opinion I think you should keep you Sub, & when your 60 you can look down at your wrist & think ( By God, I'm glad I stuck with you ) And at that point it will be Priceless & worth a thousand trips to Seiko Factory.. Be faithful as it's been to you.. It would be one hell of an expensive Re-Buy.. Just a thought.. BMJ ENGLAND
BMJ ENGLAND yes keep it for goodness sake
Keep it!
DON'T TOUCH THE WATCH.
This for me totally makes my week, I really appreciate your high production values, engaging narrative and utter sincerity. Anyway, enough of the compliments...personally I'd flip it, I think you would regret the decision in a short time, however..it would then give you an opportunity to relive the love affair in a couple of years with the eventual inevitable purchase of a no date Sub!
Thank you Peter, too kind.
As for your advise, I LOVE IT!
Best idea yet. Genius!!!
Best regards,
TGV
Very interesting video. Our tastes do evolve over the years. What'll probably happen is in a few years you'll come around and wish you hadn't sold your Subby. But then again, using the funds for such adventures is worth it. Really hard to say. I know you think Grand Seikos are a bit cold but who knows you may come around to them in time too. I put off wearing my GS for a few weeks and then it feels oh so special all over again. Decisions, decisions! By the way, I'm getting over this damn flu as well - best of luck to you to recover quickly. Ciao, John
Sorry to hear that John, hang in there old chap.
Less importunely, as for the watches, if I do go to Japan, I deffo will try and get a JDM or GS over there.
Cold perhaps but still ruddy cool!!! Enjoy your GS,
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
I agree... Sometimes you'll find out that your tastes are different than what you thought they were, (or should be), hope you two get better. (I can attest to that for fountain pens, not so much for watches.)
I'm relatively new to the watch community but I have been collecting fountain pens for awhile now. My advice from one collector to another is; if a piece is just sitting around and not getting any love, sell it. Rotate the collection. Unless it is a very sentimental piece of course. I find once you find the perfect piece it doesn't matter how long it has been in your collection but as you use it, it has to remind you of why you love it. Some times you just have to sell things and then you realize how important they are to you, then buy them back. So in the end you appreciate them so much more. In my opinion, from the way you were talking in the video, it sounds like you should sell the good old Subby and then see how you feel about it. All the best and you make fantastic videos by the way. The quality is top ten on RUclips.
Thank you so much for sharing that Jake,
Very true and profound comment, duly noted sir!
Best regards,
TGV
my pleasure
Not gonna lie, I'd sure like see you strolling around downtown Tokyo with an explorer on your wrist, maybe sipping on some tea under a cherry blossom. My advice would be to let it go, it's provided you gratification for these past years and as you say it's been amazing, but the love you once shared has faded away. I say cherish the memory and move on. The explorer is, my opinion, the quintessential watch, and it suits you very well. Along with the datejust and the navitimer, what else could you possibly desire? just my 2 cents, but as you stated traveling will enrich your soul in a way no object could do. Just my 2 cents my friend, whatever you choice is I'll stand behind it!
Dominic Ells agree & TGV has the Rolex Pepsi GMT Master II as well , so go for it
Dominic, I agree. The Sub has served it’s purpose and carried TGV to this adventure. In fact, I sold some stuff to be able to go to NY last week myself and didn’t regret it one bit. Except for the fact that I visited the Museum of Moving Image which is near where TGV and my cousin who works at the museum live:)
I absolutely love the Subby... but Travel to me is even more PRICELESS. The memories of your travels will far exceed it. Go to JAPAN and GERMANY.
As you mentioned in this very video.. you can always get it again... you are only getting older and you won't be able to travel in your 30s when you are in your 60s if you know what I mean.
Sell the watches that have a lower sentimental value . Sentimental value is really important as 10years down the line , u will remember those times , but if u sold it . You would have tonnes of regret. So sell of the watches that can be bought again and go to Japan
Love my vintage non-date sub. Perfect size and form factor with classic symmetry make it a time piece for life.
Thank you for making me fall in love with watches! ^_^ One of my favourite channels!
My Sub cost me about 40 times as much as my skx. Do I enjoy it 40 times more? Absolutely! No question. Easily 100 times more.
Wow, I am impressed, you must really love it. Keep enjoying it.
Thank you for sharing that.
Best regards,
TGV
WOW 100 times more huh XD
"Sell your clothes and keep your thoughts." -HDT, Walden.
Choose experiences over obsessions every time.
@Dave Cochrane BINGO!
You are a true philosopher of desire ... love your work
In your heart you already know, Bon Voyage Ami
porn moment lol
Write down your current decision or a thought about the watch. And wait for 6 months. If your decision does not change than you'll know what to do. Cheers!
Thank you wise and practical advise. With a youtube name like that, I expect nothing less! :D
Best regards,
TGV
Idk man, I hear the argument that says in year down the road you will love the sub and be glad you kept it. But in my life, having a wife and 2 sons(and another on the way) the things I remember an Love is my time with my family. The memory of past travels are worth anything I have!
That being said I don’t have a sub Hahahahahaha.
I don’t think you will regret making memories. Watch’s will always be available, the time your living will not!
Either way enjoy whatever you choose! Thanks for all the entertainment an education my friend
Keep the watch...can't replace memories...save your money and visit Japan when you can...make the trip a grail as you did the watch originally
Very true. Why travel if you don’t remember it.
Mr Vader.. I respectfully disagree. We are only getting older, and traveling with younger legs is far and away superior to trying to travel later on in life. The memories he will have from his travels will exceed the memories of his Subby. Again he can always get the Submariner again.. he will not always have his youth.
Tired of Fools very true indeed
Hi Tristano! I visited the Seiko Museum in Tokyo a couple of weeks ago as you suggested. Very interesting! :-)
Fantastic! So glad to hear form you Stefano, spero che tu stia bene.
WOW you went, VERY cool indeed. Did you make any videos about it?
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
I made a video regarding the museum in italian. I'm working on it. I guess I'm going to post it this week-end. I'm still waiting to meet you in Florence some day!
great timepiece
Nothing has changed. You still love your Subby!
Haha, Thank you :D
Best regards,
TGV
A trip when you are young can't be bought again when you are old, but a subby can. Seems like an easy decision, TGV.
VERY wise sir, very wise indeed.
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
Greetings!
I can see how similar the explorer and sub are in aesthetics but I say keep your sub! it will be worth much more in the future.
Cost is only what the buyer is willing to pay, if you want it you will pay for it.
So true, so ruddy true!
Thank you sir,
Best regards,
TGV
Got a little R rated there for a second. As to the watch, one day, I'd love to try one on.
LOL Thank you Ricardo, I am sure that will happen sooner then you think ;-)
Best regards,
TGV
Sell your rolex GMT?
Though personally id sell all rolexes and Tudors except for the explorer, which i actually really like.
Its a beautiful thing. But its still only a thing...Go to that tokio bill murray's hotel, visit seiko, eat new stuff and smell new fragrances. Funny but actually that SUB can help You improve urself more when its sold than when its on ur wrist.
I like the war room better by the way.
Keep the Sub, get the Yachtmaster, then decide 🙃
Congratulations to 5 years of owning your submariner .
Thank you Alex :D
Best regards,
TGV
Your welcome sir.
I'm praying for your lungs and your being able to spend the next 100 years buying hundreds of watches and traveling. So, speaking for all of your friends out here, we don't want to hear any more negative talk about your not being around for your centennial anniversary as a RUclipsr! OK, I'm done with the scolding . . get well soon, TGV!
Thank you so much my friend, duly noted and deeply appreciated. You truly inspire me! :D
Onwards and upwards,
Best regards,
TGV
You bought it when you turned 30. I wouldn’t sell it. Keep it Tristano! You’ll regret it later if you sell it. Trust me!
*_Bangor, Maine is in the House._*
I remember you! 👑
Welcome back sir!
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
*_David, what can I say watches are my passion._*
*_Tristano, your the man!_*
Clyve Minotaur-Wrangler *You caught me SSshhh!*
Noooo The Sub is a true Legend...x
Lume in the bezel would be stunning, but why anybody is thinking about lume for the date? I think this could be very cool! :D
Great idea, a bit like what Lange did on one of theirs.
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
Thanks for that information!
I didn't notice Lange does this in one of their watches. :)
And of course I have to say thank you for your fantastic videos. You really brought me deeper into the world of watches.
Greetings from Germany
Laurens
You know already I think.
Sell it and live your travel dreams.
And what about the love for your newly acquired AP?
Burning like a hundred suns my friend. I am still over the moon, but wearing it VERY sparingly
I cant wait to review it! Stay tuned.
I hope you are well Mario,
Best regards,
TGV
Don’t sell the Subby, one day it will go to the next generation in your family.
When I look at my watch I remember my father and the good times we had together.
Save little money every month
and than when you can you travel to Japan and Germany.
Wish you the best.............
Perhaps it's time to look for a choice vintage Sub.
LOVE that idea!!!! Dangerous, but I love it.
Thank you sir,
Best regards,
TGV
Great Video 👍 Hello to Bremen / Germany
Watch ist Emotion Not rational! 😅
I actually LOL'd after the "porn" moment, THAT WAS GREAT!
Maybe you should have gotten one with a bit of colour, like the hulk!
Would like to see TGV review that one!
Do u need 3 Rolex watches? Do I need 100+ watches? My reply is I certainly do not NEED 100+ watches. However, as a passionate collector, the qty is irrelevant. U can certainly buy back a sub but it will not be the same one u hv before. I always remind people, everyone hv a sub but my sub is not identical to others as it tell MY story. TGV, which is the longest watch u own now excluding the pocket watch?
Perhaps 30 years from now, when you reflect back to the adventures you had in Japan and Germany and you still have the submariner on your wrist, the very submariner you acquired on your 30th, your first grail, and maybe perhaps at that time this watch is still a timeless classic... just perhaps...!!!
Keep it if you can is my point...
I got a new watch for my birthday. A certina ds1 powermatic 80!
Congrats! Great brand, I have yet to try one of those, I have heard only good things. Thank you, enjoy.
Best regards,
TGV
Thanks. I love to see your videos you make good content
Cash in on the sub to experience priceless moments travelling? No! Go travelling with the sub on! I miss your duels TGV.
Thank you sir,
I will do another duel soon ;-)
Best regards,
TGV
That bezel porn though! XD
TGV, you should have just titled this video “Farewell to a Faithful Grail”. Your tone of voice and monologue seem to already say that your heart has decided to sell dear old subby to fund future projects. At least that’s why I perceived. ;p
I know I'm a little late to the party, but this might be one of my favorite vids. Love hearing the passion in Tristano's voice when talking about his Rolexes. I have been lucky enough to own 4 Rolexes and 2 Tudors in my collecting career and, yes, they are indeed special. As an enthusiast there is so much on a technical level to appreciate.
Travel!
I would sell it, go to Japan and buy a few Seiko Turtle Divers, can't lose there....
Christopher Wood -MDH- a legend to you, Seiko turtle is a great watch. I wear it more than my other watches.
Thanks for pushing through and getting that update out. I do look forward to your videos and I realize it's not always easy putting content out, especially when your feeling under the weather. Cheers!
I love how your desk and your interests, and the music you play, reenforce a thorough appreciation for all sides of what I consider the most impressive, subtle, humanistic, scientific, and subjectively endowed culture in the world.
You have to grow the mustache!
nobody want's to see you sell a sub, but everyone want's to see you go to the seiko factory. this is a viewer's ultimate moral quandary.
I love your work brother!! I've only started getting into watches back in 2016. I've watched heaps of people on youtube talk about watches, however, the way you present yourself and the amount of passion you have for these beautiful timepieces is just amazing! :) I've also gotten my partner into watches and together we are working on our collection :) Peace and love from Sydney Australia
That is by far the intro that defines you the most, thank you for the great video as always!
It sounds a bit like my wife, I stil love her and would take her with me before anything but it´s not as fun anymore.
Sell it. Go to Japan.
I really enjoyed watching this video and your thoughts about the journey and passage of ownership. As I go along my horological journey, my feelings and thoughts also change. Thanks for allowing me to gain from your experience and wisdom!
One of the most honest videos you have made. They are all honest but this one more. You speak from the heart Sir.
Don't sell it.
You are quite mad really.
i dont like when people say "experiences last forever and material objects dont". THE EXPERIENCE of going through the hard work to save for that for your 30th is something that will be with you forever. keep or sell, that experience will always be with you.
regards
Dude watching your videos in quarantine, makes me so calm.. wisihing you all the best and good health trough all of this! Big fan.
Lol at the porn section!!!!
Hmm tough choice. Personally as the watch was bought to mark a mile stone I'd keep it. Even if you choose to later purchase another it won't be "the one".
Thank you Brian, very sensible my friend.
Best regards,
TGV
Haha ! I would never sell my Rolex :))
So happy I found your channel this past summer while researching about SKX's. You do a great job with your videos and info. Really looking forward to your future adventures! Even if it doesn't include the Rolex. ^_^
One of the best videos from this channel. I just feel like I know you better now.
I think you've made up your mind. See you in Japan sans Subby. Cheers
Sell the suby. Go to japan
Cheers for the weekend!
Thanks for the updates, I am a new to watch collecting (much more than just collecting time pieces) and after much thought and research I have purchased a skx009j1 and a snkn37 recfaft. Perfect introduction watches. By the end of the year I hope to have enough saved up to purchase a Tudor Black bay or possible a Sinn! Love the videos!
Spot on: "I just enjoy this watch more". No more needs to be said. No more justification necessary. Doesn't matter if it's an expensive luxury watch or a $5 bargain bucket special, it's ALL about your own personal enjoyment of the time piece.
Didn’t you fall over wearing this submariner and it didn’t get damaged at all? If so that definitely shows it can take a beating.
Very true, my god, your memory is better than mine!
Thank you Owen,
Best regards,
TGV
+Owen Treadgold Near Las Vegas, on the road, he smashed it bad. Very scratched.
I would hold it for a few more years and try to use it as a daily beater. In the end, if the watch really doesn’t make you feel happy when you look at it, what good is it in a locker or a winder?
Your videos are amazing and they are my must watch at night to get de-stressed. Keep up the good work!
I’ve only recently found your Chanel. You’ve really ignited a new found interest for me in watches.
Really enjoy your videos, thanks!
So glad I found your channel sir. You are a treasure on a wide range of information of horology and beyond. It is truly a pleasure tuning in my friend. Quick question, how do you submit an entry for the Seiko Saturday?
One of your best videos I've ever seen, TGV. The heartfelt nature of this one really added to the effect it had. I wholeheartedly say you should keep the Submariner!
It's funny, I can completely understand your opinion on the sub, however watching you interact with the watch and all of the discussion has made me fall more in love with this watch, and very much confirmed my decision for my upcoming purchase! :)
Watches are all about feelings and how you feel about them, i've fallen out of love with watches before - sometimes only a bit of ownership time can confirm which are really for you!
What u shared in this video is the reason I subscribed and love your content,
This was mind opening, great, just great
I just picked up a 114060 two weeks ago from my AD - the symmetry is simply unbeatable. The watch just looks so well balanced. I prefer no date watches personally, which is why I have an OP36 and BB36 as well in the collection; I find the cyclops on the Sub throws off the balance. It is an outstanding watch. It's hard to look at a watch's enjoyment relative to the price - if that were the case, we'd all wear Casio F91s. I get as much joy wearing my $340 CAD Dan Henry 1964 as wearing my $7K OP36 - but I enjoy them for entirely different reasons. That's the best thing about this hobby!
Thanks for the video TGV! You raise a very important point and that is the fact that enjoyment is not always proportional to monetary value. Something really similar happened to me. I've had my trusty Explorer II for 7 years now, but about 6 months ago I bought a grail watch without realizing it for the fraction of the cost, it's a Sinn 556A on a bracelet. For some unknown reason, that little Sinn has filled up the niche of the Explorer II and after half a year enjoying the Sinn I might let the Explorer II go...
Honestly TGV, I think you should sell it. You may regret selling it but it was YOU that had the memories and experiences not the watch. Sell it and make some more in Japan and Germany! I wager to say the intros you would make in Japan are worth it alone XD Best of luck with your decision TGV, you really can't go wrong.
Dear TGV,
Thank you for the video, and most importantly thank you for you what you've done to me as watch enthusiast :) Over a year ago I was a guy who just wanted a "first serious watch", then I stumbled upon your videos and that's when my desire started to evolve into hobby and a "hunt" :). You really helped me to acquire a taste and genuine interest in horology and I am very thankful for that.
Recently, to celebrate my latest milestones I've finally pulled a trigger. It turned out to be 36mm Datejust blue dial with Roman numerals and fluted bezel on a Jubilee bracelet, I am completely over the Moon with this watch. Sometimes, I find myself just staring at it lol. I guess this choice would not be possible without your influence!
Keep rocking! :)
Thank you,
Phil
bravo bravissimo! you are the best! thank you for your apassionate shared thoughts about this iconic and desired time piece for me.
Thank you for sharing your experience with us.
The only way to know if you are going to miss it is to put somewhere where it won’t be accessible to you for a while, say 6 months. If you miss it, then don’t sell it. If its absence doesn’t bother you go ahead and sell it. My guess is that you will miss it, as I missed my grail Rolex after I wasn’t able to access it anymore.