I finally had surgery today after a two week long painful odyssey of figuring out what was wrong with me. This hobby and this channel have really helped me take my mind off things, and I cannot thank you enough for the hard work you put into the channel. Cheers!
I'm sure a lot of people find these comments corny but I can relate. I did not have surgery but as of late with all the negativity around from people, news, events, politics, covid etc. I'm detached myself from all social media and only watch relaxing RUclips videos like this channel or renovations with no sound lol ... it does the soul good and clears the mind of all the crap going around. best wish on your recovery.
1. Budget - how much to service, or source parts in the future - resell value (if you tend to flip) - investment value 2. Style - genre (dress, etc.) and colors - classics always stay in trend 3. Lifestyle 4. Consider your collection - try something new - (or) stick to your thing 5. Take your time 6. Despite the above, go for what you want
I'm never in that situation. I only buy a watch I can't resist, and there can only be one like that at a time. If you can't decide between two watches, you are trying to use logic where it doesn't apply. The logical thing is not to buy a watch because you don't need one. When you get the irrational desire to buy one specific watch and you can't get over it, then it's the right one.
TGV, I recently had one of your early videos pop up and I watched it; I was struck by how much happier you seem now! No disrespect to the old you, but I feel such an inspiring love of life from your videos these days, and I am so, so happy to see you doing what you enjoy. Best of luck, and thank you!
Maybe its being English but we tend to regard Rolex, like Rolls Royce, as "flash". Omega, if I were to take a similar analogy, would be a Bentley. More understated.
Christian Wong Great choice hope it serves you well as know it will. l am going to get a snowflake ONE DAY, in my opinion they are just so much better .Grand Seiko before Rolex or Omega for me
Has to be a rolex sport. Also helps they go up in value all the time and second hand market is so strong. Im all for seiko but if you need the money back its a tough sell, i lost thousands on my grand seiko, never again.
Those are value watches. Maybe I'm to frugal with my money but those are far from grail watches. I have no problem dropping money on watches so i would buy all these in one purchase rather than chose only one considering these are value watches not luxury, which I feel your statement calling them top tier was trying to insinuate they are too expensive to own all of them which is far from true if your a fool like me who doesnt know what else to spend money on. lol Personally got my eye on the new black titanium casio dw5000 but am going to instead buy a 35th anniversary edition project team tough dw5600 and put an after market metal bezel and bracelet. Beats the price of the proprietary version however still slightly expensive.
I bite the bullet and buy watches I can't afford, and I still love the ones you mentioned. Except I'd skip the Citizen and include the Seagull 1963 chrono ... hand-cranked, column wheel ... mmmm.
T, you're SO right about going through "phases". I've had 4 Rolexes over the years, sometimes the chemistry was there, sometimes not. Taking your advice, I've been kicking around which Sinn to buy for nearly a year now...wanted a T2 at first, but I no longer scuba dive, considered a 104, but finally landed on a EXAM 3F, which arrived today! FAR surpassed my expectations, to me it's the best of all worlds. Now if I could resolve the phases with women as easily. Cheers, Sir!
The part where you tell about the craving for a specific watch and then suddenly your of to the next crush, so recognizable! Keep up the good work TGV, your enthusiasm is really a joy to watch! Greetings for holland!
I love how the act of TGV releasing a video automatically rearranges my entire evening: upon seeing that he's uploaded a new video, I put aside whatever I'm doing, grab my laptop, and prepare a nice cigar to enjoy as I watch. It's become practically a ritual! Keep up the amazing work, TGV! :)
Haha, I can't deny, that made me smile intensely, Thank you so much and enjoy the cigar. I love a good ritual like that, so important in life, I will make sure to to keep it going ;-) Best regards, TGV
This video helped me a lot with a tough buying choice I'm facing. Was considering getting my first Rolex, either a Datejust or a Submariner. I finally decided on getting a Datejust because I already own a Speedmaster 57, which although looks good in a suit, I wanted something more dressy, and the submariner would have been quite similar to the speedy in terms of the "look" with a suit. Now all I have to do is figure out which Datejust! haha. Thanks a lot for all the videos!
8:55 Dive watches can be used W/ formal wear. I've been saying that all along. I've been wearing my Marathon JSAR proudly in any and all environments, from work in the many gyms I worked at (getting banged around a bit), then everyday as a PE Teacher, now in Healthcare (though I have to remove it, as it may scratch my patients). I wore it for my wedding photoshoot in various tuxes and suits, to the wedding itself and various other formal occasions. It just suits (pun intended) any and all outfits and occasions...
I am in this dilemma right now. Speedy or Rolex Sub. I love the simplicity and diversity of the Rolex submariner however, one cannot deny the heritage and history of the speedy (MOTM). Check out an up boxing of the speedy. Astonishing value for money. Looks great too with the nato strap. Chaos!
I wore an Omega Seamaster for 17 years. I just bought my grail Rolex GMT BNLR. I’m an American police officer. I wear it every day with no fear. Buy what you love!
being apolice officer has its perks. you wear watches with no fear, looking down at regular little people who wouldnt wear expensive watches walking down on street at 10pm
When I'm trying to decide between two things I try to imagine which one I'd be less disappointed with. If I bought the speedy would I be disappointed that I didn't have the sub, or vice versa. I find that subjective way of thinking about it helps me more than just trying to work out which one I like more.
Some really good points here. When I bought my Black Bay Heritage, I wanted the one with the "smile" dial, and the ETA. Because I wanted a serviceable movement, on that I did not have to send off to Tudor at a premium. I also really loved that watch and had m eye on it for a while and was able to get one for a deal once everyone dumped theirs for the 58. Next, nearly every watch I own I have bought online. The only shops near me are chain, mall-style shops, where your options are very limited. In fact, our local mall, 5 minutes from my house have 4 jewelry stores in it. Three are owned by the same big box company and all have the same brands in it: ESQ, Bulova, Citizen, etc. You aren't going to find any Rolex, Omega, Squale, Tudor, NOMOS, or even Seiko. You have to go online for that. You might get a Seiko or two in Macy's, but even then, it's not any of the models people want, and their selection is much smaller than what they offer from Citizen or Michael Kors.
I think it's funny how a large majority believes they need a diver for a travel/companion watch because a beach or snorkel excursion might be in the plans. No, you don't need a diver. I firmly believe that the best all-around watch that meets all of the criteria you laid out in this video is the Rolex Oyster Perpetual, either 34 or 36 depending on your wrist size. It is truly a timeless design that pays homage to the 1933 "bubble back", you have a modest diameter, and 100m water resistance. What more do you need? Now that my family is growing, I look at watches purely as heirlooms for my kids. My first son will get the Black Bay 36 because I wore that when he was born. I'm expecting another child in May 2020 and I'll likely be buying a 34mm Rolex Oyster Perpetual for that child to inherit someday. Both watches are understated, clean dial layouts, and offer all the durability anyone would need in daily activities of life.
I am looking to purchase my 1st luxury watch. I have narrowed down to 3. Rolex submariner, Omega moon watch, Breightling Averager 2. I am still a bit undecided. I do like them all!
I'm currently stuck on three watches, the Seiko (Tuna) Marine Master 300M SBBN031, a blue dial Ceramic Seamaster professional and a 1988 Datejust (All stainless or two tone gold/stainless). All three are worlds apart yet are all being considered as a 30th Birthday/milestone present to myself once I return from my military deployment. This video has given me a little more ammo to use in the decision making process. I enjoyed the video, keep it up.
A set of excellent points to help us all choose between the 2 finalists. If all things are being equal where the choices and effects have the same weighting, I flip a coin and go with the result. If you make interpretation changes on your coin result, you already know what you wanted more and go with that.
Nice intro with the TGV signature, wow! The Guv'nor has tackled this topic in a very comprehensive manner, now folks this so far the best video on this topic Submarina V Speedmaster. This video sets a horological precedent on how to choose between the two most iconic watches of all time. Thanks for sharing.
I'll probably get both. I currently got a Speedmaster in which suits my overall personality (Car enthusiast and Engineer), but the Submariner seems to suit my lifestyle due to its robustness as I love traveling and overall being out and about.
Haha I am exactly the same, plant engineer who does a lot of hands on work, also a massive car enthusiast & also love travel. Looking to add my first 'luxury' watch to my collection. Personally I've started looking for 'special editions' rather than any one brand, just feel it'd be better for a heirloom watch.
I recently bought a Speedmaster Reduced II after following your previous video and this video really confirms I've made the right choice. It really came down to the Speedmaster Reduced or the mid-sized Seamaster. I just have to say Thank you TGV!!
I had a Speedy. The bezel ring popped off and the helsite crystal scratched easily. Both were easily repair yet annoying. I was also a little nervous about the water resistance. Additionally on my 7” wrist it looked a little big. Ended up selling the Speedy and getting a Sub. The Sub is indestructible and I’ll leave it to my son. Looking for an Explorer for my other son for the same reasons. Something makes me miss the Speedy, though. Classic watch. Great vid, TGV.
Great Tipps, thank you. Actually i want to make a decision between the Speedmaster professional 3861 or the Speedmaster Mark II from 2014. Now i print the face of these two watches out on paper in real size, cut them out and tape it on another watch i wear during my home office. So i can always look at the watchface and feel within my self. I hope i can make a good decision until my birthday 🥳
I have a daily fight with myself trying to decide between the Panerai 244 40mm GMT and the Sinn 6000 series GMT. Both are completely different animals that appeal to different aspects of what I love in timepieces equally. I have a feeling that I will eventually end up with both.
Rolex owner here, and Speedy owner too. The problem with rolex is when you have to send it for maintenance on the official channels, they end up exchanging things on the watch you didn't asked to. I have a Submariner that's 27yr+ old (the last 5 broken) , and If it stops again (and if the hour hand became misaligned from the Minute hand again) I will consider to get rid of it, I only kept it for the last 10 years because the value was increasing, but it is not a watch that I feel "proud" or in love with. The maintenance price was HUGE, AND they didn't return me the replaced old parts. I know some people here love this watch, but keep in mind I have more good watches to use. The Speedy was a non planned acquisition that ended in my taste, and after 10yrs so far so good.
Someday when I decide to buy my dream watch, I'll be torn between an Omega Seamaster versus Omega Man on the Moon. Can't seem to decide which one to get.
Thanks for your nice videos. Consideration over time is what I went through with my Seiko Monster. I was considering buying it 5 years ago. Time passed and forgot about it and then last August I bought the black monster and I really love it. Now I'm going through the same phase with the Skx. Only problem is that I can't decide between skx007j or k, 009 or maby the 013.
I bought the speedmaster in1967 while stationed in Germany because I didn't have enough to buy the Submariner. Later bought the GMT. I still have both.
My current dilemma: Seiko Marinemaster- I love it, it suits me and I’m lucky enough to have one that doesn’t lose or gain any time when it’s worn (it gains 2-4secs per week when not worn much) Omega Speedmaster Pro- I’ve never owned one and can’t stop lusting after it. It would be my perfect weekend watch (I have a Grand Seiko Springdrive for work) and looks great on the bracelet or leather and NATOs.
Deciding between the Rolex Daytona (116500 - White Dial) vs. the new JLC Master Chronograph sector dial. Obviously, at the time of this video posting I haven't had a time to try on the JLC but the Rolex fits quite well. From the photos, the JLC really speaks to me, and the Rolex just looks incredible.
Well tgv, been a while since I commented but I wanted to let you know your videos are part of my routinely life . At night I lay and enjoy them. Keep it up my friend i know sometime we don't take in consideration the time , editing , lighting and memory space in computer to make these videos. I just want to thank you for always your genuine advice . I always will give your videos a thumbs up!!! Keep it up . From LA
I bought a speedmaster sandwich first, I wore it as my daily, then I bought the SD4000 and wore that as my daily, but, check this....I went back to my speedy as my daily. I needed that push in order to realise how awesome the speedy really is. Still love the SD4000 but the speedy is much more comfortable on my wrist.
Cartier Tank v. JLC Reverso --- similar to the Sub v. Speedy dilemma, can't really make the wrong choice imo...in other words, regardless of the decision, you are going to be enjoying a true icon!
"Take your time" - absolutely! I've made many costly mistakes chasing watch "crushes". To your point 4 - I'd say, if you have a good collection and you're trying to decide between 2 watches - maybe go bold. Try a wild card. Sometimes its okay to go the oddball route. I tend to like more "muted" watches but I also have my Alexander Shorokhoff which is anything but muted but I love it. Good video. Ciao, John
Thank you so much for sharing that John, always appreciated. As for Alexander Shorokhoff watches, crazy but in a fun way, I love it! Thank you, Best regards, TGV
I am trying to decide between the Breitling Pilot B-50 and the Omega Skywalker X-33. I am a pilot and I love the classic Speedmaster Moon watch and the Navitimer but The B-50 and the X-33 are more useful to me since I use UTC and Multi-time zone features often. I have been considering Garmin MARQ Aviator for work. It actually has more features and is more affordable. Once I decide on my work watch. The other watches will be more for collecting and augmenting my wardrobe.
i was actually deciding to buy between Seiko Alpinist SARB017 and Hamilton Khaki King auto and you had a video comparing those two ! I ended up with khaki king because i really had that strong attraction to it for some reason. your vids are great !
Excellent video even though it's an old one. The Speedy is always nibbling away in the back of my mind. My diver box is ticked with an SKX, I have the Rolex dress box ticked with an Oyster Perpetual (it was a gift), so I think it's time for a a Speedy. The Valjoux movement is a workhorse that's serviceable, it looks fabulous and you don't look like a gaudy footballer at the pub. Sorted then, now the search, I talked myself into it.
Nice job TGV. I have 3 G-Shocks for work purposes, very reliable and very tough. My grail away from work is going to be a Panerai. Love the class and simplicity. Taking my time as you suggest, thank you for your input. Stay true my friend.
Have a vintage speed master that is a ‘forever’ watch...A new-er tops my list of ‘next’ luxury purchase! I have a couple of high-end subMariner inspired Watches… And yes, dare I say it “a Hulk homage”... Having those has actually made it clear that the Omega Is my first choice.
Hello TGV, I'm excited about my birthday this year, the 21st, and I've asked for a Total Solar Eclipse and the SKX009. It looks like I'm getting both! Great vids and I'm inspired. Cheers.
I’m a professional driver, so I guess it wouldn’t make to much of a difference what type of watch I wear. If I had to choose between the two watches, I think it would be the speedmaster. I just like the way it looks. I really want a seiko snk809.
Another top video 👍🏼 thought I'd let you know I've got my place this September to study horology to become a watchmaker. So excited, love this community
I’m having a hard time choosing between the Citizen Chrono Titanium Chronograph AT4010-50E and Citizen titanium Promaster Diver BN0200-56E. I know they are not luxury watches but I would like your input about them to decide which one to get. Thanks ahead for your time guys. I love the channel and your content 👍🏽, well done!!!
Very helpful, validated my decision to break my black dial only collection with a silver dialed 2010 Aquracer quartz chronograph, which replaces my Formula 1 grande date. Need some variety as you said TGV!
I think I might have just found a watch for myself! This Datejust looks stunning on suede strap and would look excellent on leather nato. The movements in this model - 3035/3135 - are very reliable with 42/50 hours power reserve respectively. Interesting.
TGV, Thank you - sincerely - for the obvious (or perhaps not so..) efforts & time you INVEST as a true watch aficionados! Your passion shows through, as a noble gentleman. KUDOS!!
TGV, I really enjoyed this video! Alas, the typical dilemma I find myself in so often. Rolex, or Omega? At this juncture, I am satisfied with my Rolex GMt-Master ii 116710LN and am not interested in another Rolex. My dilemma now is, do I trade up my Omega Seamster 2551.80 towards an Omega Speedmaster moon watch? Or, do I keep my 2551.80 and save until I can bank roll a Speedmaster? That is my current problem and it is making me lose sleep! Any advise you can provide on this front would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again my friend :) Nathan
Thanks TGV for another spot on video. Spot on for me at least: it's been ages that I've been going through the decision process between the pepsi GMT and the Planet Ocean. Two very different watches indeed, but still, it boiled down to these two. And I can now say, I am anxiously awaiting the delivery of my Planet Ocean 8500 43mm. Only thing I am worried about is the height because of the complexity of the movement. Let's see
I love your common sense approach. My only dilemma for my next purchase is Omega Planet Ocean in black or blue? Even after trying both on I'm still stuck haha. The money's nearly saved so decision time soon. Great video again still my favourite watch channel
Great advice and it helps a lot. Thanx. Realizing you likely get bombarded with dozens of questions after one of these, mine is this: I saw a picture on this vid of a watchband (strap), with increasing size holes in it. ( And yes, I was listening to what you said), but what band was that, if you get time to answer this. Thanx, again.
Fantastic! This was a great video lots of help! I have been trying to decide on the Speedmaster the black sub or the hulk for about a year. Its looking like the Speedmaster moonwatch watch after lots of trying on. Pictures don't do this watch justice! Plus I have 3 divers already. A red black bay, SKX007 & 009. I have not go a chronograph. So it makes sense in lots of ways. The colour i dress watch option. Then next i will need to decide between the two Subs! I also have the Navitimer v the sinn 903 in the back of my mind! It never ends! Love it!
I thought I had the exact same dilemma (Tudor Pelagos, or Rolex Submariner). I quickly realized I was dealing with a false dilemma, because I can't find a Rolex Submariner.
I decided on pairing my Omega Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch with a Rolex GMT with the Jubilee bracelet instead of the Submariner. I like the Submariner but ultimately I like the story behind and the utility of the GMT.
Well timed TGV! I'm checking out a personal grail this afternoon. A Seamaster 2254.5 Swordhands. It's at an AD serviced with 12 months warranty so I'm hopeful. Wish me luck and thanks for all your advice. Phil.
Sub no Date or Batman GMT ? What is best number of years to go back to buy used ? 5-10 years ? Would be nice to talk about the service costs on various models with a private watchmaker. Total cost of ownership - purchase price , maintenance and depreciation. Love here your thoughts brought up on every watch. Nice videos .
Great video as always TGV. I'm wondering what makes you think watches are trending smaller? If you look at some of the new releases and even some re-issues, a lot of them are going 40mm or above. Might be worth a bit of a video on watch trends ;).
I feel how well models have traditionally held value or appreciated may be more solid factors in decision making for those who don't collect watches. The Sub is iconic. Simply put: Submariner-inspired watches look submariner-inspired. Things got tight (years ago) and I had to let a watch go. The choice was between a Panerai Daylight H series and Submariner. Without a doubt I loved the Daylight more but its bulk prevented subdued daily wear. I would have kept the Daylight if working from home, LOL! Got sidetracked in memories, LOL! At any rate; the Sub has appreciated whereas its former housemate can be replaced at the exact price it was sold 9 years ago.
Tudor Pelagos blue - vs - Omega Speedmaster Professional Hesalite. I know they’re completely different I’m almost every aspect but I love both equally, roughly the same price point, and I can’t decide between either.
I'm having trouble deciding between getting a vintage dress watch in an Omega seamaster or geneve and a newer "vintage- style" Hamilton Intramatic. I don't really have experience with a vintage watch but I love the look of these omegas for dress occasions. The Hamilton looks quite stunning and minimalist. Both of these watches can be fetched around the same price. I suppose my hard decision comes from getting a new watch or one that may or may not have problems due to being 60 or more years old.
I love his videos. Next purchase will be a date just 36 or 41 (haven't decided yet), blue face, standard bracelet, fluted bezel. Thoughts on size for a 6.75 wrist?
Great video I really needed this since I’m considering the Speedy and Sub as a mid-term goal. Eventually I will probably buy both but with a couple of years apart so the question is which one to get first, right now leaning towards the sub since I already got two chronographs but only one diver.
I finally had surgery today after a two week long painful odyssey of figuring out what was wrong with me. This hobby and this channel have really helped me take my mind off things, and I cannot thank you enough for the hard work you put into the channel. Cheers!
I'm sure a lot of people find these comments corny but I can relate. I did not have surgery but as of late with all the negativity around from people, news, events, politics, covid etc. I'm detached myself from all social media and only watch relaxing RUclips videos like this channel or renovations with no sound lol ... it does the soul good and clears the mind of all the crap going around. best wish on your recovery.
How are you doing Nicholas?
@@danielvanderstruis1516 wow thanks for asking! The ailment and accompanying surgery are firmly a thing of the past, I'm happy to report
@@nicholassekas3060 That is delightful to hear. Thanks for getting back to me. Onwards & Upwards!
1. Budget
- how much to service, or source parts in the future
- resell value (if you tend to flip)
- investment value
2. Style
- genre (dress, etc.) and colors
- classics always stay in trend
3. Lifestyle
4. Consider your collection
- try something new
- (or) stick to your thing
5. Take your time
6. Despite the above, go for what you want
Yong Seon Lee yes it takes that long...
I'm never in that situation. I only buy a watch I can't resist, and there can only be one like that at a time. If you can't decide between two watches, you are trying to use logic where it doesn't apply. The logical thing is not to buy a watch because you don't need one. When you get the irrational desire to buy one specific watch and you can't get over it, then it's the right one.
esa062 well said
Excellent comment
Exactly!
Then what happens when you can't get over 2 watches ?
Impulse buying is more likely to lead to buyer's remorse
TGV, I recently had one of your early videos pop up and I watched it; I was struck by how much happier you seem now! No disrespect to the old you, but I feel such an inspiring love of life from your videos these days, and I am so, so happy to see you doing what you enjoy. Best of luck, and thank you!
Maybe its being English but we tend to regard Rolex, like Rolls Royce, as "flash".
Omega, if I were to take a similar analogy, would be a Bentley. More understated.
Only in England would driving a Bentley be considered understated 😂
Rather take the new Flying Spur over the new Rollers, the same way I’d rather have a Speedmaster 38 over the GMT/Daytona
Funny enough, in the States, the Rolls is more likely to be seen as classy old money and the Bentley is more likely to be seen as flashier new money.
Rolex or Omega? After the 5 tips, I decide to buy Seiko......
Haha, Rolex, Omega, Seiko, it's all good to me my friend, what is important is you love it and enjoy it!
Thank you Christian,
Best regards,
TGV
Such is watch collecting haha!
Christian Wong haha traitor! Grand Seiko? They're awesome too
Christian Wong Great choice hope it serves you well as know it will. l am going to get a snowflake ONE DAY, in my opinion they are just so much better .Grand Seiko before Rolex or Omega for me
Has to be a rolex sport. Also helps they go up in value all the time and second hand market is so strong. Im all for seiko but if you need the money back its a tough sell, i lost thousands on my grand seiko, never again.
When it's 2 AM in the morning, you got an exam in 30hours but if TGV posts a new video you have to watch it. Priorities!
*pun intended
Thank you Andrei, best of luck tomorrow, glad it was only a shorter video today ;-)
Best regards,
TGV
Andrei Marinica ce examen dai?
tech românia Cellular Biology
Oh, you're in college
Andrei Marinica
In Australia mate?
Ahh.. top tier watches. I feel like it's quite hard for me to choose between Seiko 5, Citizen Promaster, Orient Bambino and Vostok Neptune.
@Alex Ragna I bought a Citizen NY0085 on the rubber strap (a successor to the NY0040). When the rubber wears out, I'll probably buy a nylon strap.
Those are value watches.
Maybe I'm to frugal with my money but those are far from grail watches.
I have no problem dropping money on watches so i would buy all these in one purchase rather than chose only one considering these are value watches not luxury, which I feel your statement calling them top tier was trying to insinuate they are too expensive to own all of them which is far from true if your a fool like me who doesnt know what else to spend money on. lol
Personally got my eye on the new black titanium casio dw5000 but am going to instead buy a 35th anniversary edition project team tough dw5600 and put an after market metal bezel and bracelet.
Beats the price of the proprietary version however still slightly expensive.
I bite the bullet and buy watches I can't afford, and I still love the ones you mentioned. Except I'd skip the Citizen and include the Seagull 1963 chrono ... hand-cranked, column wheel ... mmmm.
Gotta catch em all 😉
Rule #8: ask your wife, that way you can corner her into giving her agreement on at least one of them.
That blue TUDOR near the end of this footage,.. man, that's a beauty.
7:43
"If you look at a classic sixties Timex, you know, it's everlasting, it's..."
...ETERNAL !!! IMMORTAL !!!
Take your time is the best advice ever. FOMO is deadly. (Fear Of Missing Out.)
Ye take your time and wait for the prices to double THEN BUY.
@@stockholmpublishings2937 LOL
T, you're SO right about going through "phases". I've had 4 Rolexes over the years, sometimes the chemistry was there, sometimes not. Taking your advice, I've been kicking around which Sinn to buy for nearly a year now...wanted a T2 at first, but I no longer scuba dive, considered a 104, but finally landed on a EXAM 3F, which arrived today! FAR surpassed my expectations, to me it's the best of all worlds. Now if I could resolve the phases with women as easily. Cheers, Sir!
Sorry, that's EZM 3F. Damned auto spell.
LOL, Thank you Rick, I know how that goes ;-)
As for the Sinn, glad to hear from a fellow Sinner, enjoy it my friend.
Best regards,
TGV
Rick Gordon ooo
I laughed at, ' ..goes with more leather straps, it was originally a racing chrono before, you know, ... ' points to the moon! Haha
So did I, great editing!!
The part where you tell about the craving for a specific watch and then suddenly your of to the next crush, so recognizable! Keep up the good work TGV, your enthusiasm is really a joy to watch! Greetings for holland!
I love how the act of TGV releasing a video automatically rearranges my entire evening: upon seeing that he's uploaded a new video, I put aside whatever I'm doing, grab my laptop, and prepare a nice cigar to enjoy as I watch. It's become practically a ritual! Keep up the amazing work, TGV! :)
Haha, I can't deny, that made me smile intensely,
Thank you so much and enjoy the cigar. I love a good ritual like that, so important in life, I will make sure to to keep it going ;-)
Best regards,
TGV
The Urban Gentry Thank you for all of your amazing work, TGV!
Very useful and I deeply believe only a man who had been there himself could have such experience to share.
This video helped me a lot with a tough buying choice I'm facing. Was considering getting my first Rolex, either a Datejust or a Submariner. I finally decided on getting a Datejust because I already own a Speedmaster 57, which although looks good in a suit, I wanted something more dressy, and the submariner would have been quite similar to the speedy in terms of the "look" with a suit. Now all I have to do is figure out which Datejust! haha. Thanks a lot for all the videos!
8:55
Dive watches can be used W/ formal wear. I've been saying that all along. I've been wearing my Marathon JSAR proudly in any and all environments, from work in the many gyms I worked at (getting banged around a bit), then everyday as a PE Teacher, now in Healthcare (though I have to remove it, as it may scratch my patients). I wore it for my wedding photoshoot in various tuxes and suits, to the wedding itself and various other formal occasions. It just suits (pun intended) any and all outfits and occasions...
For me it would be between Speedy and the Seamaster Professional 300m. Very hard choice. Great video!
I am in this dilemma right now. Speedy or Rolex Sub. I love the simplicity and diversity of the Rolex submariner however, one cannot deny the heritage and history of the speedy (MOTM). Check out an up boxing of the speedy. Astonishing value for money. Looks great too with the nato strap. Chaos!
I wore an Omega Seamaster for 17 years. I just bought my grail Rolex GMT BNLR. I’m an American police officer. I wear it every day with no fear. Buy what you love!
Easy Eagle FF here, I’m nervous to wear anything but my Luminox at work. Stay safe!
being apolice officer has its perks. you wear watches with no fear, looking down at regular little people who wouldnt wear expensive watches walking down on street at 10pm
Easy Eagle Well said. Thanks for your service brother!
When I'm trying to decide between two things I try to imagine which one I'd be less disappointed with. If I bought the speedy would I be disappointed that I didn't have the sub, or vice versa. I find that subjective way of thinking about it helps me more than just trying to work out which one I like more.
after 6 years of my wach journeyi now have a sub and a speedy as a 2 piece collection. very happy!
Cannot believe it took me so long to stumble upon this channel,.. freaking addicted to these videos! 👌🏼👏🏼🔥
Some really good points here. When I bought my Black Bay Heritage, I wanted the one with the "smile" dial, and the ETA. Because I wanted a serviceable movement, on that I did not have to send off to Tudor at a premium. I also really loved that watch and had m eye on it for a while and was able to get one for a deal once everyone dumped theirs for the 58. Next, nearly every watch I own I have bought online. The only shops near me are chain, mall-style shops, where your options are very limited. In fact, our local mall, 5 minutes from my house have 4 jewelry stores in it. Three are owned by the same big box company and all have the same brands in it: ESQ, Bulova, Citizen, etc. You aren't going to find any Rolex, Omega, Squale, Tudor, NOMOS, or even Seiko. You have to go online for that. You might get a Seiko or two in Macy's, but even then, it's not any of the models people want, and their selection is much smaller than what they offer from Citizen or Michael Kors.
I think it's funny how a large majority believes they need a diver for a travel/companion watch because a beach or snorkel excursion might be in the plans. No, you don't need a diver. I firmly believe that the best all-around watch that meets all of the criteria you laid out in this video is the Rolex Oyster Perpetual, either 34 or 36 depending on your wrist size. It is truly a timeless design that pays homage to the 1933 "bubble back", you have a modest diameter, and 100m water resistance. What more do you need?
Now that my family is growing, I look at watches purely as heirlooms for my kids. My first son will get the Black Bay 36 because I wore that when he was born. I'm expecting another child in May 2020 and I'll likely be buying a 34mm Rolex Oyster Perpetual for that child to inherit someday. Both watches are understated, clean dial layouts, and offer all the durability anyone would need in daily activities of life.
I am looking to purchase my 1st luxury watch. I have narrowed down to 3. Rolex submariner, Omega moon watch, Breightling Averager 2. I am still a bit undecided. I do like them all!
Roger Saenz same here my choices so far are omega seamaster, speedmaster, aqua Terra and zenith elprimero
I'm currently stuck on three watches, the Seiko (Tuna) Marine Master 300M SBBN031, a blue dial Ceramic Seamaster professional and a 1988 Datejust (All stainless or two tone gold/stainless). All three are worlds apart yet are all being considered as a 30th Birthday/milestone present to myself once I return from my military deployment. This video has given me a little more ammo to use in the decision making process.
I enjoyed the video, keep it up.
For me it is the Rolex though I can appreciate the history of the Speedmaster.
Seiko Alpinist Sarb017 or Seiko SKX013. Both classics, good for small wrists, very cool looking and potentially going out of production soon.
Nate Seaman skx013 is a lady's dive watch
I have the Speedmaster and Submariner. Love them both equally.
One of the greatest feelings is to wake up in the morning and have Tristano’s video to watch, accompanied by coffee of course! Cheers!
And in turn you made my night!
Thank you Ashwin, very kind of you to say indeed.
Best regards,
TGV
Hats off to you sir!
A set of excellent points to help us all choose between the 2 finalists.
If all things are being equal where the choices and effects have the same weighting, I flip a coin and go with the result. If you make interpretation changes on your coin result, you already know what you wanted more and go with that.
Seiko Presage SARX 045 (blue vertical striped dial) ///or/// Seiko Presage SARX 017 (black vertical ticker striped dial w/ lume)
The Void blue one
i go for blue dial...you know is a blue dial but at some angle or under some exposure of lights it looks black...
Great point! Thanks guys
i really love my Mom and she has this old Omega constellation so I'll just take that one
Nice intro with the TGV signature, wow! The Guv'nor has tackled this topic in a very comprehensive manner, now folks this so far the best video on this topic Submarina V Speedmaster. This video sets a horological precedent on how to choose between the two most iconic watches of all time. Thanks for sharing.
I never hear construction, and your audio is MUCH better here than the echo chamber at work!!
It's so hard to decide: I've got both...
I'll probably get both. I currently got a Speedmaster in which suits my overall personality (Car enthusiast and Engineer), but the Submariner seems to suit my lifestyle due to its robustness as I love traveling and overall being out and about.
Haha I am exactly the same, plant engineer who does a lot of hands on work, also a massive car enthusiast & also love travel. Looking to add my first 'luxury' watch to my collection. Personally I've started looking for 'special editions' rather than any one brand, just feel it'd be better for a heirloom watch.
I recently bought a Speedmaster Reduced II after following your previous video and this video really confirms I've made the right choice. It really came down to the Speedmaster Reduced or the mid-sized Seamaster. I just have to say Thank you TGV!!
That makes my day to hear my friend and wear it with pride, you make me miss mine!!!
Please enjoy it for me ;-)
Best regards,
TGV
6:08-6:23 had me laughing. The way he explained the omega and made sure to not put in the moon part because it's so overstated was funny.
I had a Speedy. The bezel ring popped off and the helsite crystal scratched easily. Both were easily repair yet annoying. I was also a little nervous about the water resistance. Additionally on my 7” wrist it looked a little big. Ended up selling the Speedy and getting a Sub. The Sub is indestructible and I’ll leave it to my son. Looking for an Explorer for my other son for the same reasons. Something makes me miss the Speedy, though. Classic watch. Great vid, TGV.
Great Tipps, thank you. Actually i want to make a decision between the Speedmaster professional 3861 or the Speedmaster Mark II from 2014. Now i print the face of these two watches out on paper in real size, cut them out and tape it on another watch i wear during my home office. So i can always look at the watchface and feel within my self. I hope i can make a good decision until my birthday 🥳
I have a daily fight with myself trying to decide between the Panerai 244 40mm GMT and the Sinn 6000 series GMT. Both are completely different animals that appeal to different aspects of what I love in timepieces equally. I have a feeling that I will eventually end up with both.
Rolex owner here, and Speedy owner too. The problem with rolex is when you have to send it for maintenance on the official channels, they end up exchanging things on the watch you didn't asked to. I have a Submariner that's 27yr+ old (the last 5 broken) , and If it stops again (and if the hour hand became misaligned from the Minute hand again) I will consider to get rid of it, I only kept it for the last 10 years because the value was increasing, but it is not a watch that I feel "proud" or in love with. The maintenance price was HUGE, AND they didn't return me the replaced old parts. I know some people here love this watch, but keep in mind I have more good watches to use. The Speedy was a non planned acquisition that ended in my taste, and after 10yrs so far so good.
Great work TGV. I can't speak enough about your presentations. I am learning more about wristwatches from watching your videos. Keep them coming.
Thank you so much for saying that, it inspires me greatly.
Best regards,
TGV
Someday when I decide to buy my dream watch, I'll be torn between an Omega Seamaster versus Omega Man on the Moon. Can't seem to decide which one to get.
Man on the moon
I am between a Speedmaster (as it is the 50th anniversary) and the Omega Ploprof - then off late, I like the look of Sinn.... Choices choices
Thanks for your nice videos. Consideration over time is what I went through with my Seiko Monster. I was considering buying it 5 years ago. Time passed and forgot about it and then last August I bought the black monster and I really love it. Now I'm going through the same phase with the Skx. Only problem is that I can't decide between skx007j or k, 009 or maby the 013.
I bought the speedmaster in1967 while stationed in Germany because I didn't have enough to buy the Submariner. Later bought the GMT. I still have both.
My current dilemma:
Seiko Marinemaster- I love it, it suits me and I’m lucky enough to have one that doesn’t lose or gain any time when it’s worn (it gains 2-4secs per week when not worn much)
Omega Speedmaster Pro- I’ve never owned one and can’t stop lusting after it. It would be my perfect weekend watch (I have a Grand Seiko Springdrive for work) and looks great on the bracelet or leather and NATOs.
Deciding between the Rolex Daytona (116500 - White Dial) vs. the new JLC Master Chronograph sector dial. Obviously, at the time of this video posting I haven't had a time to try on the JLC but the Rolex fits quite well. From the photos, the JLC really speaks to me, and the Rolex just looks incredible.
If one is on sale and the other isn't, and you still hesitate...you clearly want the full price one.
Well tgv, been a while since I commented but I wanted to let you know your videos are part of my routinely life . At night I lay and enjoy them. Keep it up my friend i know sometime we don't take in consideration the time , editing , lighting and memory space in computer to make these videos. I just want to thank you for always your genuine advice . I always will give your videos a thumbs up!!! Keep it up . From LA
I bought a speedmaster sandwich first, I wore it as my daily, then I bought the SD4000 and wore that as my daily, but, check this....I went back to my speedy as my daily. I needed that push in order to realise how awesome the speedy really is. Still love the SD4000 but the speedy is much more comfortable on my wrist.
Absolutely enjoy your real and enthusiastic videos. Learning a lot about horology. Thank you so much!!!
Cartier Tank v. JLC Reverso --- similar to the Sub v. Speedy dilemma, can't really make the wrong choice imo...in other words, regardless of the decision, you are going to be enjoying a true icon!
"Take your time" - absolutely! I've made many costly mistakes chasing watch "crushes". To your point 4 - I'd say, if you have a good collection and you're trying to decide between 2 watches - maybe go bold. Try a wild card. Sometimes its okay to go the oddball route. I tend to like more "muted" watches but I also have my Alexander Shorokhoff which is anything but muted but I love it. Good video. Ciao, John
Thank you so much for sharing that John, always appreciated.
As for Alexander Shorokhoff watches, crazy but in a fun way, I love it!
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
I am trying to decide between the Breitling Pilot B-50 and the Omega Skywalker X-33. I am a pilot and I love the classic Speedmaster Moon watch and the Navitimer but The B-50 and the X-33 are more useful to me since I use UTC and Multi-time zone features often. I have been considering Garmin MARQ Aviator for work. It actually has more features and is more affordable. Once I decide on my work watch. The other watches will be more for collecting and augmenting my wardrobe.
i was actually deciding to buy between Seiko Alpinist SARB017 and Hamilton Khaki King auto and you had a video comparing those two ! I ended up with khaki king because i really had that strong attraction to it for some reason. your vids are great !
Flighty vs. Speedy: GO!
You must be the most cheerful happy person on RUclips. Always smiling and laughing.
Exactly the same predicament here, Sub or Speedmaster Pro.... Or an Omega Seamaster 300 Master Co-axial.... HELP
If you could only save one watch out of a burning building - thats the one to buy.
Drastic but most likely true, horological gods forbids! ;-)
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
+The Urban Gentry say if your house was burning and you could save only one watch, which would it be? ;)
Best wishes
Save the Speedmaster. Then after the fire, go and get my Submariner and brush the ash off.
TheSouthpawSoldier lol 😂
Well im going to save the most expensive watch as my insurance may not cover it, so no, thats a shit opinion.
I ended up getting the Omega speedy race (white dial) and the Submariner (black dial), I just loved them both.
Excellent video even though it's an old one. The Speedy is always nibbling away in the back of my mind. My diver box is ticked with an SKX, I have the Rolex dress box ticked with an Oyster Perpetual (it was a gift), so I think it's time for a a Speedy. The Valjoux movement is a workhorse that's serviceable, it looks fabulous and you don't look like a gaudy footballer at the pub. Sorted then, now the search, I talked myself into it.
Nice job TGV. I have 3 G-Shocks for work purposes, very reliable and very tough. My grail away from work is going to be a Panerai. Love the class and simplicity. Taking my time as you suggest, thank you for your input. Stay true my friend.
Thank you Bubba sir, I like your style and I hope you get your grail. I feel the Panerai will compliment the G-shocks well.
Best regards,
TGV
The watch I'm asking about has declining sized holes toward the buckle and was one of the examples as it lay on a desk? Table? You get it.
Have a vintage speed master that is a ‘forever’ watch...A new-er tops my list of ‘next’ luxury purchase! I have a couple of high-end subMariner inspired Watches… And yes, dare I say it “a Hulk homage”... Having those has actually made it clear that the Omega Is my first choice.
Hello TGV, I'm excited about my birthday this year, the 21st, and I've asked for a Total Solar Eclipse and the SKX009. It looks like I'm getting both! Great vids and I'm inspired. Cheers.
For a long time i was torn between the Ranger & Explorer. In the end i eventually bought them both. Problem solved :)
I’m a professional driver, so I guess it wouldn’t make to much of a difference what type of watch I wear. If I had to choose between the two watches, I think it would be the speedmaster. I just like the way it looks. I really want a seiko snk809.
Another top video 👍🏼 thought I'd let you know I've got my place this September to study horology to become a watchmaker. So excited, love this community
I’m having a hard time choosing between the Citizen Chrono Titanium Chronograph AT4010-50E and Citizen titanium Promaster Diver BN0200-56E.
I know they are not luxury watches but I would like your input about them to decide which one to get. Thanks ahead for your time guys.
I love the channel and your content 👍🏽, well done!!!
Really love your content TGV. Deciding between these two myself right now. Liking the Omega at this stage.
Very helpful, validated my decision to break my black dial only collection with a silver dialed 2010 Aquracer quartz chronograph, which replaces my Formula 1 grande date. Need some variety as you said TGV!
I think I might have just found a watch for myself!
This Datejust looks stunning on suede strap and would look excellent on leather nato. The movements in this model - 3035/3135 - are very reliable with 42/50 hours power reserve respectively. Interesting.
"Two dollars, ... and, ...a Casio."
~ John Candy
TGV, Thank you - sincerely - for the obvious (or perhaps not so..) efforts & time you INVEST as a true watch aficionados! Your passion shows through, as a noble gentleman. KUDOS!!
Sound advice and I’ve got to say as a fellow Brit, you come across as a really nice chap!
TGV,
I really enjoyed this video!
Alas, the typical dilemma I find myself in so often. Rolex, or Omega?
At this juncture, I am satisfied with my Rolex GMt-Master ii 116710LN and am not interested in another Rolex. My dilemma now is, do I trade up my Omega Seamster 2551.80 towards an Omega Speedmaster moon watch? Or, do I keep my 2551.80 and save until I can bank roll a Speedmaster? That is my current problem and it is making me lose sleep!
Any advise you can provide on this front would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks again my friend :)
Nathan
Thanks TGV for another spot on video. Spot on for me at least: it's been ages that I've been going through the decision process between the pepsi GMT and the Planet Ocean. Two very different watches indeed, but still, it boiled down to these two. And I can now say, I am anxiously awaiting the delivery of my Planet Ocean 8500 43mm. Only thing I am worried about is the height because of the complexity of the movement.
Let's see
I've had both several times over the years... now keeping the sub and sold the speedmaster... hated the daily winding
I love your common sense approach. My only dilemma for my next purchase is Omega Planet Ocean in black or blue? Even after trying both on I'm still stuck haha. The money's nearly saved so decision time soon. Great video again still my favourite watch channel
Just brought a speedy sapphire sandwich, super pleased with it. But only after watching plenty of reviews like yours . Thanks
Great advice and it helps a lot. Thanx. Realizing you likely get bombarded with dozens of questions after one of these, mine is this: I saw a picture on this vid of a watchband (strap), with increasing size holes in it. ( And yes, I was listening to what you said), but what band was that, if you get time to answer this. Thanx, again.
Thank you Joseph, forgive but are you talking about the strap I am wearing in this video?
Best regards,
TGV
Fantastic! This was a great video lots of help!
I have been trying to decide on the Speedmaster the black sub or the hulk for about a year. Its looking like the Speedmaster moonwatch watch after lots of trying on. Pictures don't do this watch justice! Plus I have 3 divers already. A red black bay, SKX007 & 009. I have not go a chronograph. So it makes sense in lots of ways. The colour i dress watch option.
Then next i will need to decide between the two Subs!
I also have the Navitimer v the sinn 903 in the back of my mind!
It never ends! Love it!
I thought I had the exact same dilemma (Tudor Pelagos, or Rolex Submariner). I quickly realized I was dealing with a false dilemma, because I can't find a Rolex Submariner.
I decided on pairing my Omega Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch with a Rolex GMT with the Jubilee bracelet instead of the Submariner. I like the Submariner but ultimately I like the story behind and the utility of the GMT.
Well timed TGV! I'm checking out a personal grail this afternoon. A Seamaster 2254.5 Swordhands. It's at an AD serviced with 12 months warranty so I'm hopeful. Wish me luck and thanks for all your advice. Phil.
Thank you Phil,
LOVE that Seamaster, best of luck my friend.
Best regards,
TGV
Great episode, love the channel, I'm going for the speedy and still saving hard :) Saludos
Sub no Date or Batman GMT ? What is best number of years to go back to buy used ? 5-10 years ? Would be nice to talk about the service costs on various models with a private watchmaker. Total cost of ownership - purchase price , maintenance and depreciation. Love here your thoughts brought up on every watch. Nice videos .
Excellent ideas Rick, I will ask my watchmaker and make a video on it one day.
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
Great video as always TGV. I'm wondering what makes you think watches are trending smaller? If you look at some of the new releases and even some re-issues, a lot of them are going 40mm or above. Might be worth a bit of a video on watch trends ;).
Great vid as usual. The datejust looks perfect on your wrist sizewise btw. You may want to consider adding it back to your collection :)
I feel how well models have traditionally held value or appreciated may be more solid factors in decision making for those who don't collect watches.
The Sub is iconic. Simply put: Submariner-inspired watches look submariner-inspired.
Things got tight (years ago) and I had to let a watch go. The choice was between a Panerai Daylight H series and Submariner. Without a doubt I loved the Daylight more but its bulk prevented subdued daily wear. I would have kept the Daylight if working from home, LOL!
Got sidetracked in memories, LOL! At any rate; the Sub has appreciated whereas its former housemate can be replaced at the exact price it was sold 9 years ago.
Tudor Pelagos blue - vs - Omega Speedmaster Professional Hesalite. I know they’re completely different I’m almost every aspect but I love both equally, roughly the same price point, and I can’t decide between either.
I'm having trouble deciding between getting a vintage dress watch in an Omega seamaster or geneve and a newer "vintage- style" Hamilton Intramatic. I don't really have experience with a vintage watch but I love the look of these omegas for dress occasions. The Hamilton looks quite stunning and minimalist. Both of these watches can be fetched around the same price. I suppose my hard decision comes from getting a new watch or one that may or may not have problems due to being 60 or more years old.
I love his videos. Next purchase will be a date just 36 or 41 (haven't decided yet), blue face, standard bracelet, fluted bezel. Thoughts on size for a 6.75 wrist?
Great video I really needed this since I’m considering the Speedy and Sub as a mid-term goal.
Eventually I will probably buy both but with a couple of years apart so the question is which one to get first, right now leaning towards the sub since I already got two chronographs but only one diver.