@MarkusTravels Markus, I appreciate your qualifying the remarks made in your first video. However, what your defining as a scam maybe more of a Legal issue based on contract law. I recently booked a ticket for a trip departing 04 March 2025. As I read I believe I am booking via Hurtigurten America Inc. This maybe the reason for the difference because of Maritime legal differences. I will call and findout.
I've taken many Hurtigruten cruises and in every way that you can imagine they have the best ships and service I've experienced. Something is Really Wrong with this Man. Also, everyone I know who has cruised with Hurtigruten also agrees that Hurtigruten is the BEST! Life does not get better than on a Hurtigruten ship! Everything is terrific with Hurtigruten. The service is amazing and they book your flights and airport to ship transport.
Marcus. I’m afraid I totally disagree with your recommendation, although I appreciate your experience may have been different from mine. Last month I completed the return Svalbard Express trip Bergen to Bergen, and it was the best cruise I have ever taken. Excellent food and superb service throughout, as well as access to smaller ports that large ships can’t access. I have been fortunate enough to take over 35 cruises all over the world with a wide range of cruise lines, and cabin levels, so I’m not a “newby”.
In 2017 we took the coastal route on the Finnmarken from Bergen to Kirkenes and back. We booked one of spacious balcony cabins on deck six. The Nordic menu was terrific, the shore excursions interesting and the crew was just great. We will never forget the short and longer port stops for the ferry we were on. It was an adventure, more like an expedition cruise and we were so impressed, we booked a Hurtigruten Antarctica expedition trip for 2023. Again, an extremely memorable journey for what it was.
We had a wonderful cruise on Hurtigruten's MS Nordkapp in October. We never expected a luxury cruise ship; we actually prefer small ships. I cannot say enough in praise of the ship and the company. Because it was a small ship, we were able to get to know the crew, who were excellent. The voyage is correctly called the World's Most Beautiful Voyage. - the scenery is stunning. We enjoyed the daily briefings and the excursions. We completely disagree with Markus. We loved our voyage on Nordkapp and would love to do it again.
@@MrStian78 We haven’t banned them but we’re certainly imposing conditions on their operation to make them less harmful. Our government is working towards a ban on the things.
You can never compare a ship almost 30 years old with a brand new one. We have done two trips with Hurtigruten, the first northbound on Kong Harald and the second southbound on Otto Sverdrup a few years apart and those trips have been among the most wonderful trips we ever have done. We live in southern Sweden and brought our car with us on both trips to be able to combine with road trips one trough Norway and one through Sweden/Finland/Norway. Yes Hurtigruten is a bit expensive (as everything in Norway) but worth every single penny. I can really recommend it, we have the best memories.
I most certainly can compare ships. Especially when you have two companies operating the exact same route. I cannot think of a more comparable example!
@@katarinamaersksekkingstad4480 What is, in your experience, the difference between Havila and Hurtigruten on the same route? I could hardly think of anything Hurtigruten did better. I would think that the ports and the service to the coastal community is exactly the same, but maybe I'm missing something fundamental.
Its mostly a ferry company who offers costal transporation in Norway and so called cruises. Its similar what most of the Baltic sea companies offer. If you Google a little, then renovations was done in 2016 for this ship and they do not renovate the rooms and focus more on common areas. Just do the research before booking a trip..
It is not a scam, I don’t think you understand how these things work. I would have preferred if you had done a little research before making these claims. Because of that you get a thumbs down.
@ If you’re going to post on RUclips at least have the decency to be truthful. You’re a right sarcastic little git…maybe look at something else for a career.
I really think you were a bit hard on Hurtigruten Markus. I really enjoyed my trip. If you want to see Norway rather than enjoy a floating hotel Hurtigruten is the shipping line for you. Are you sure you were comparing the right fares? I thought I had a great deal and then I added the meals.
WOW, that must be creating drama for sake of drama, just for clicks on your channel. And poor you having to talk to an actual person LOL, what a pathetic review.
wow, so many snarky and unkind comments here. i found your video helpful and informative especially since i wanted to compare hurtigruten with havilla for a future trip. i agree, havilla looks to be a better option. thank you and ignore all the haters.
I have plans to go on the Hurtigruten, I don't really understand why you discourage people from going other than broken TV and bad signage. Now I don't have a handle on the prices, really how much more expensive it is on the English sute and the Norwegian site as I only visited the Swedish site andI think the prices are okay in Swedish kronor when I was on their website.
@@MarkusTravels Entirely different ships performing entirely different functions. Hurtigruten vessels provide an essential public service to our coastal communities. The other lot merely provides tourist transport, providing no essential public service. That you upset yourself over a faulty TV is simply pathetic. My wife, our young daughters have travelled with Hurtigruten several times and have neither interest nor knowledge about the TV in our cabin working. It simply isn’t of consequence on such a voyage. on Tuesday we leave Bergen for Alta and, despite your imaginary scam, we’re travelling with Hurtigruten.
@@sisselnilsen4699 He isn’t like any Swede I’ve ever met. His ignorance initially suggested to me he might be a U.S. American. I rarely encounter Swedes with a negative attitude to Norway.
Yes, it's not really a cruise ship. But I think a cruise just means it goes out and comes back to the same place. And that the ship does, for example Berge-Kirkenes-Bergen.
@@MarkusTravels An entirely nonsensical definition. My father in law’s fishing boats leave from Bergen and return to Bergen. If you define that as being a cruise, you’re in for a serious surprise.
@@jandmath Fair comment. I expressed myself badly. Yes the ship always comes back. I was more thinking of the product you buy. On a ferry, you typically go one-way somewhere and do your business. On a cruise, you stay on the same ship, which takes you back as well. That was my thinking. But I'd better look up the definition properly! 🔍
Hi! Just came across this video bc I am interested seeing the Norwegian Fjords I saw the title card and watched it bc it was completely different from what most people say about Huertigruten I think your expectations were too high for what the ship is. Folks go this route & ship bc it runs close to the coast & small towns that other cruises cannot I do agree the TV being broken is a bummer I had the same issue on my recent cruise on the QM2 & it was never fixed. I looked at the other titles of your videos They seem to me that they are written negatively to get more views Is this true? Happy travels!
Exactly.... People should just ignore this moron (my designation is also based on his idiot-reponse to comments in here), not helping him make more money on expense for others.
Some of the titles are indeed negative, but many are also positive. The received wisdom on RUclips is that some kind of emotional content is good to get people to click. But it's not working that well. I am still a small channel in this niche.
Well, Hurtigruten is not a cruiseship for spoiled rich people. Its a post and passenger route along our long coast. If you want a luxury cruice, find a cruise ship with all the luxury you want.
Markus. I did not find your review useful. In booking I already knew that if I wantedd to see the Northern Lights via a mega cruise I would travel on another carrier. It seems like you've never taken a "private for profit ferry service" that has added a cabin and dining experience over the years to continue to operate as customers tastes change. Yes sometimes pricing differently for different demographics. I think your review seems to be negative and not worldly enough to put into perspective what this company that has offered "as service" over the decades long before the "cruise" vacation experience ever existed. You mentioned you mentioned you were not feeling well during the cruise. I hope that you not trying to gain viewers by pointing out the obvious. Have you ever taken for example the Alaskan Ferry, the Lake Michigan Ferry there are others i've experienced from Hawaii, the Philippines to China and Indonesia. I have friends in Switzerland that run 7 generation family businesse and know they all need to morph and change to meet demands. Not an easy task going from the 1840(s) to today. But change does occur. I hope your future reviews are done more constructively, with understanding of the industry, economics, labor and time tables.
.....and what was the scam....as claimed in the thumbnail....?????? You mostly sounded like a theatrical and spoiled kid.... OK...the TV didn't work....did you report it? What do you expect from a 30 years old ferry? Was it the colour on the walls that made you unhappy...??? Hurtigruten has new ships on the drawing board. But they have to wait until the next bidding for the new contract period. The Norwegian state own the rights for the route ....and pays for the service the coastal express deliver. So with given intervals there are a bidding compensation for a contract with the state ....according to the EU-regulations. Hurtigruten are no longer owned by Norwegians, but by a British investment company....hence they are the ones to make the calls and standards. Havila on the other hand is a fully Norwegian company. When it comes to food there are different tastes ....and that's not a wrong doing or a scam. There are others who prefer the food on Hurtigruten instead of Havila. To make a case out of that the northern light forecast was not updated ...it was "2 days old" is ridiculous. Of course .....simply because your travel was so far south that there will not be any northern light whatsoever ....so what is there to update....??? Bergen is around on the same latitude as Oslo, Stockholm and Helsinki. Have you made any video about the ferry Stockholm to Helsinki hadn't updated northern light forecasts....or no such at all...??? ....and why do you ...at all...book a sea voyage when you can not handle it...???
i did 5 times Hurtigruten and 2 times Havila, its still the best sea voyage, for me at the Moment, Havila has better prices, Food and new ships. at no time i need a tv while the awesome scenery is the Program. its a bucketlist voage you never should /will miss March 25 will be my next trip ! i love Norge.
hm, the video starts with a wrong information, i.e. that the trip Bergen - Kirkenes - Bergen would be two weeks. In fact, it is 11 days, and it's NOT 7 days to Kirkenes either, but 5 1/2 days. So much for that. Maybe that tells you something about the accuracy of the rest of the video ... he goes on ssayig postive things about his cabin, the food and so son ... but then complains about the price .... what an awkward littel film.
Total lie!!!!! we are from the US and took the round trip cruise it was one of the best most memorable cruises we ever took... the staff on board was wonderful this is an expedition ship with about 250 people not luxury cruise line with 2500 to 5000 people.... Food was wonderful and met wonderful people from many countries. Room was great and so were the excursions. Also you are wrong about the info for the northern lights... must not have ask... they has a tv screen on the decks to show round the clock the rotation of the magnetic field and if you leave the speaker on in your room they will alert you no matter what time of day or night they can be seen, oh and by the way we were on the same ship so take the whole cruise before you review the whole trip!!!!!!
Buddy, you need to get a steady-cam to make the video smooth. I had to bail out after your visit to the store, quite jumpy. You have a nasty attitude about this ship; I think your expectations were way too high.
I'm sorry but you are so wrong two days as opposed to two weeks. Where is the reality of this? My wife and I have travelled extensively around the world and did the BKB trip five years ago. We thoroughly enjoyed it and would love to return at a different time of year to compare the difference of weather. Complaining about the hotel before, the check in, the room. Your a whinger
I found your weird facial expressions and your insipid little voice to be weird and distracting but your ignorance is of much more concern. Your supposed “scam” is nothing of the sort. This ferry company receives significant subsidies from the Norwegian government for the services it provides to Norwegians and their coastal communities. These subsidies are passed on to Norwegian passengers in the form of ticket subsidies. There is no logical reason to pass the subsidies on to benefit foreign tourists. Norwegian passengers are subsidised, foreign tourists are not. No scam involved, only an expression of your ignorance.
So the subsidies only go to Hurtigruten and not to Havila? They operate the same route, just on different days. And on Havila, the prices in Norwegian and English are the same.
@@MarkusTravels Havila provides no services that qualify them for government subsidies. They’re merely a tourism operator. Unlike Hurtigruten ships, Havila ships aren’t designed to carry freight, they don’t carry mail and they provide no essential public transport service. If Havila ceased operation, few would notice. If Hurtigruten did so, it would cause major problems. I’d suggest that our government likely wouldn’t let them fail. The carriage of Norwegian passengers attracts no subsidy on Havila, giving them no obligation to charge lower fares to Norwegians. Your ignorance in alleging your imaginary “scam” is staggering. Clearly your knowledge of the shipping or tourism industries is non existent.
@@katarinamaersksekkingstad4480 Ah, now I see what happened. You must be thinking of a different company than Havila Kystruten AS. Havila Kystruten AS operates 4 of the 11 ships on the coastal express route; they do carry mail (they even fly the Post flag!); they do carry cargo; even a few cars. It's the same service along the coast, same ports, same timetable, only that Havila does it better than Hurtigruten. I tried both on the same route, but in different directions.
@@MarkusTravels Not surprisingly, you’re wrong again, just as you were about your imaginary “scam”. As expected from such a feeble looking little man, you have a real problem with simply admitting you made a mistake. Curiously, Havila do claim to carry a few cars and cargo. Strangely in a country where well over 90%of the cars on our roads are electric or hybrid, they refuse to carry electric or hybrid cars. They’re also unable to load or unload cars at most ports of call, leaving me to wonder how effectively they can load or offload cargo. My father in law ships fresh fish up the coast to these settlements. Far from doing that “better than Hurtigruten”, Havila is entirely incapable of offering an acceptable service to the coastal communities. Their less frequent service fails to meet community needs. Hurtigruten operates 7 ships, allowing a more regular service to the communities. We clearly have very different priorities and expectations from a scheduled ferry service. We’ve travelled on Hurtigruten boats several times, are heading to deliver gifts to Alta tomorrow evening from Bergen and will again be perfectly happy on Hurtigruten. If Havil are operating as a mail boat, as you claim, they certainly aren’t passing that subsidy on to Norwegian passengers. You’re a tedious little man from whom I’d welcome no further communication.
Thank you for making this video. I was considering a trip with them but after watching your video I will be booking with a different line. You are not the first person to say this line is not the best line to cruise on.
I am a Norwegian. I know Hurtigruten too well as i live on the coastline. My word is.. Stay away from it, its indeed the worst and insanly expensive. after TDR Capital took over the ownership its been all downhill.
We clearly have very different definitions of “insanely expensive” my wife, our two 11 year old daughters and I sail from Bergen to Alta on Tuesday. Our daily cost each is just over 100 NOK which includes the journey itself, our two cabins, three meals daily, internet access and spectacular scenery. To me, that represent excellent value.
Thanks for showing this and telling us the scams. Personally I don´t like boat tripps, going sea sick, but going south I migth take the Göteborg-Kiel ferry albeit Stena allways over charge you!
I was actually planning to take the Kiell ferry home to Gothenburg this Christmas. But with the train, it turned out to be cheaper to fly from Switzerland.
It's not a scam... On the Norvegian page, he booked a standard coastal express, and on the "International" page, a full voyage. (URL and name of the trip are different...).
A family member booked this trip, and while preparing for the trip, I ran across this video. I really hoped it was off the mark, but having just returned from the trip, I can say the criticism was spot on. For the people who say "it's a ferry, not a cruise" (in fact this is Hurtigruten's own line), I would say that is EXACTLY the issue. The ship stops for under an hour in most ports. For the major towns we would have been interested, the ship stopped after midnight (Tromso), or in the early hours of the morning, where nothing is open. When the ship is running late, they will cancel excursions (no refund, only onboard credit) or cancel stops all together. So you will actually see very little of Norway on this trip. So given all that, you would hope the on-board experience would be excellent. It is not. The cabins are cramped and uncomfortable. The food is so-so. Everything is staggeringly expensive. Use it to get from point to point? Sure, you are working with the purpose of the route. Sleep on board? No. There are simply much better ways to travel.
Thanks for sharing your experience! With such a pretty coastline, there's nothing wrong with seeing Norway from the sea. But if you want to see it from the ground, there are indeed better options.
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@MarkusTravels Markus,
I appreciate your qualifying the remarks made in your first video.
However, what your defining as a scam maybe more of a Legal issue based on contract law.
I recently booked a ticket for a trip departing 04 March 2025. As I read I believe I am booking via Hurtigurten America Inc. This maybe the reason for the difference because of Maritime legal differences. I will call and findout.
We took this cruise from Bergen to Kirkenes. The food was excellent. We loved the entire experience.
I'm happy you enjoyed the experience!
I've taken many Hurtigruten cruises and in every way that you can imagine they have the best ships and service I've experienced. Something is Really Wrong with this Man.
Also, everyone I know who has cruised with Hurtigruten also agrees that Hurtigruten is the BEST!
Life does not get better than on a Hurtigruten ship! Everything is terrific with Hurtigruten. The service is amazing and they book your flights and airport to ship transport.
Have you tried the other company operating the route?
Marcus. I’m afraid I totally disagree with your recommendation, although I appreciate your experience may have been different from mine. Last month I completed the return Svalbard Express trip Bergen to Bergen, and it was the best cruise I have ever taken. Excellent food and superb service throughout, as well as access to smaller ports that large ships can’t access. I have been fortunate enough to take over 35 cruises all over the world with a wide range of cruise lines, and cabin levels, so I’m not a “newby”.
I’m glad you had a great time on your cruise!
In 2017 we took the coastal route on the Finnmarken from Bergen to Kirkenes and back. We booked one of spacious balcony cabins on deck six. The Nordic menu was terrific, the shore excursions interesting and the crew was just great. We will never forget the short and longer port stops for the ferry we were on. It was an adventure, more like an expedition cruise and we were so impressed, we booked a Hurtigruten Antarctica expedition trip for 2023. Again, an extremely memorable journey for what it was.
I would love to go on an Antarctica cruise! Did you like yours?
It’s not a cruiseship, it’s a coastal ferry.
That's correct.
We had a wonderful cruise on Hurtigruten's MS Nordkapp in October. We never expected a luxury cruise ship; we actually prefer small ships. I cannot say enough in praise of the ship and the company. Because it was a small ship, we were able to get to know the crew, who were excellent. The voyage is correctly called the World's Most Beautiful Voyage. - the scenery is stunning. We enjoyed the daily briefings and the excursions. We completely disagree with Markus. We loved our voyage on Nordkapp and would love to do it again.
It's not a bad product Hurtigruten sells. It's just the the one from the competition is so much better.
@@MarkusTravels Hurtigruten ships are public service vessels. The other lot are merely tourist ships. They’re entirely different products by design.
It's NOT a cruise but a ferry service. Norway has banned cruise ships as environmentally unfriendly, unsustainable polluters. Good for Norway
Yes I think I called it a ferry on many occasions in the video.
What are you talking about? We have not banned cruiseships in Norway. Don’t talk about things you know nothing about!
@@MrStian78 We haven’t banned them but we’re certainly imposing conditions on their operation to make them less harmful. Our government is working towards a ban on the things.
You can never compare a ship almost 30 years old with a brand new one.
We have done two trips with Hurtigruten, the first northbound on Kong Harald and the second southbound on Otto Sverdrup a few years apart and those trips have been among the most wonderful trips we ever have done. We live in southern Sweden and brought our car with us on both trips to be able to combine with road trips one trough Norway and one through Sweden/Finland/Norway.
Yes Hurtigruten is a bit expensive (as everything in Norway) but worth every single penny. I can really recommend it, we have the best memories.
I most certainly can compare ships. Especially when you have two companies operating the exact same route. I cannot think of a more comparable example!
@@MarkusTravels The other company provides a very different service to the communities it operates to.
@@katarinamaersksekkingstad4480 What is, in your experience, the difference between Havila and Hurtigruten on the same route? I could hardly think of anything Hurtigruten did better. I would think that the ports and the service to the coastal community is exactly the same, but maybe I'm missing something fundamental.
I love Hurtigruten. I’m very sad you had a bad trip
I had a much better experience on the return journey: ruclips.net/video/KqIEzPfO4Qk/видео.html
@MarkusTravels thank you
Its mostly a ferry company who offers costal transporation in Norway and so called cruises. Its similar what most of the Baltic sea companies offer. If you Google a little, then renovations was done in 2016 for this ship and they do not renovate the rooms and focus more on common areas.
Just do the research before booking a trip..
Thanks for watching!
It is not a scam, I don’t think you understand how these things work. I would have preferred if you had done a little research before making these claims. Because of that you get a thumbs down.
Now thanks to your comment I understand perfectly. Thanks for explaining the situation to me so eloquently and with such great detail!
@ If you’re going to post on RUclips at least have the decency to be truthful. You’re a right sarcastic little git…maybe look at something else for a career.
I really think you were a bit hard on Hurtigruten Markus. I really enjoyed my trip. If you want to see Norway rather than enjoy a floating hotel Hurtigruten is the shipping line for you. Are you sure you were comparing the right fares? I thought I had a great deal and then I added the meals.
It's not that Hurtigruten has a bad product. It's just that the competitor is so much better. You will see in my Havila video when it's out!
Marcus merely demonstrated his complete ignorance of the functions of those ferries.
@@katarinamaersksekkingstad4480 Thank you for that detailed explanation!
WOW, that must be creating drama for sake of drama, just for clicks on your channel. And poor you having to talk to an actual person LOL, what a pathetic review.
Yes, check-in machines are much better.
wow, so many snarky and unkind comments here. i found your video helpful and informative especially since i wanted to compare hurtigruten with havilla for a future trip. i agree, havilla looks to be a better option. thank you and ignore all the haters.
Thank you for your support!
I have plans to go on the Hurtigruten, I don't really understand why you discourage people from going other than broken TV and bad signage. Now I don't have a handle on the prices, really how much more expensive it is on the English sute and the Norwegian site as I only visited the Swedish site andI think the prices are okay in Swedish kronor when I was on their website.
One main reason is that Havila is so much better. Check them out before you book at least!
@@MarkusTravels Entirely different ships performing entirely different functions. Hurtigruten vessels provide an essential public service to our coastal communities. The other lot merely provides tourist transport, providing no essential public service. That you upset yourself over a faulty TV is simply pathetic. My wife, our young daughters have travelled with Hurtigruten several times and have neither interest nor knowledge about the TV in our cabin working. It simply isn’t of consequence on such a voyage. on Tuesday we leave Bergen for Alta and, despite your imaginary scam, we’re travelling with Hurtigruten.
He is Swedish, Norwegians know their attitudes to Norwegian stuff
@@sisselnilsen4699 He isn’t like any Swede I’ve ever met. His ignorance initially suggested to me he might be a U.S. American. I rarely encounter Swedes with a negative attitude to Norway.
@@katarinamaersksekkingstad4480wrong! havilla provides the exact same function as hurtigruten. neither of them are designated cruise ships.
Try the Signature experience so you’re not on a ferry but a cruise.
Sounds like a great idea!
Actually Trondheim is the third largest kommune in Norway, but the fourth largest urban area. Stavanger is the third largest urban area.
Thanks for watching!
It is not really a "cruise" its the postboat.
Yes, it's not really a cruise ship. But I think a cruise just means it goes out and comes back to the same place. And that the ship does, for example Berge-Kirkenes-Bergen.
@@MarkusTravelsBy that logic, wouldn’t any ferry be a cruiseship?
@@MarkusTravels An entirely nonsensical definition. My father in law’s fishing boats leave from Bergen and return to Bergen. If you define that as being a cruise, you’re in for a serious surprise.
@@jandmath Fair comment. I expressed myself badly. Yes the ship always comes back. I was more thinking of the product you buy. On a ferry, you typically go one-way somewhere and do your business. On a cruise, you stay on the same ship, which takes you back as well. That was my thinking. But I'd better look up the definition properly! 🔍
Hi! Just came across this video bc I am interested seeing the Norwegian Fjords I saw the title card and watched it bc it was completely different from what most people say about Huertigruten I think your expectations were too high for what the ship is. Folks go this route & ship bc it runs close to the coast & small towns that other cruises cannot I do agree the TV being broken is a bummer I had the same issue on my recent cruise on the QM2 & it was never fixed. I looked at the other titles of your videos They seem to me that they are written negatively to get more views Is this true? Happy travels!
Exactly.... People should just ignore this moron (my designation is also based on his idiot-reponse to comments in here), not helping him make more money on expense for others.
Some of the titles are indeed negative, but many are also positive. The received wisdom on RUclips is that some kind of emotional content is good to get people to click. But it's not working that well. I am still a small channel in this niche.
Congratulations to Markus Travels for doing one of the WORST Travel sites on RUclips !
What a great review! A classic comment already.
Well, Hurtigruten is not a cruiseship for spoiled rich people. Its a post and passenger route along our long coast. If you want a luxury cruice, find a cruise ship with all the luxury you want.
Which luxuries did I say I was missing? My main complaint was about the scammy pricing.
@@MarkusTravels You did little but whinge throughout your second rate video and your imaginary scam exists only in your ignorance.
Markus.
I did not find your review useful. In booking I already knew that if I wantedd to see the Northern Lights via a mega cruise I would travel on another carrier. It seems like you've never taken a "private for profit ferry service" that has added a cabin and dining experience over the years to continue to operate as customers tastes change. Yes sometimes pricing differently for different demographics. I think your review seems to be negative and not worldly enough to put into perspective what this company that has offered "as service" over the decades long before the "cruise" vacation experience ever existed. You mentioned you mentioned you were not feeling well during the cruise. I hope that you not trying to gain viewers by pointing out the obvious. Have you ever taken for example the Alaskan Ferry, the Lake Michigan Ferry there are others i've experienced from Hawaii, the Philippines to China and Indonesia. I have friends in Switzerland that run 7 generation family businesse and know they all need to morph and change to meet demands. Not an easy task going from the 1840(s) to today. But change does occur.
I hope your future reviews are done more constructively, with understanding of the industry, economics, labor and time tables.
Check out the Havila review that will be live on the channel within a few days. Same service, different company, and much different results.
Wow. that has to be the first I've seen that have been properly dissatisfied with Hurtigruten since 1980. wow. Did you book directly with them?
Yes, I booked directly on their website. You can see the URL in the screenshots of the prices.
.....and what was the scam....as claimed in the thumbnail....??????
You mostly sounded like a theatrical and spoiled kid.... OK...the TV didn't work....did you report it?
What do you expect from a 30 years old ferry? Was it the colour on the walls that made you unhappy...??? Hurtigruten has new ships on the drawing board. But they have to wait until the next bidding for the new contract period. The Norwegian state own the rights for the route ....and pays for the service the coastal express deliver. So with given intervals there are a bidding compensation for a contract with the state ....according to the EU-regulations. Hurtigruten are no longer owned by Norwegians, but by a British investment company....hence they are the ones to make the calls and standards.
Havila on the other hand is a fully Norwegian company.
When it comes to food there are different tastes ....and that's not a wrong doing or a scam.
There are others who prefer the food on Hurtigruten instead of Havila.
To make a case out of that the northern light forecast was not updated ...it was "2 days old" is ridiculous. Of course .....simply because your travel was so far south that there will not be any northern light whatsoever ....so what is there to update....??? Bergen is around on the same latitude as Oslo, Stockholm and Helsinki. Have you made any video about the ferry Stockholm to Helsinki hadn't updated northern light forecasts....or no such at all...???
....and why do you ...at all...book a sea voyage when you can not handle it...???
The scam is the difference in price in Norwegian and in English. Did you watch until the end when I show the screenshots?
i did 5 times Hurtigruten and 2 times Havila, its still the best sea voyage, for me at the Moment, Havila has better prices, Food and new ships. at no time i need a tv while the awesome scenery is the Program. its a bucketlist voage you never should /will miss March 25 will be my next trip ! i love Norge.
@@MarkusTravels your supposed scam exists only in your ignorance. Your video was much too poor to watch until anywhere close to the end.
The “scam”was entirely imaginary, a product of Marcus’ deep ignorance of shipping.
hm, the video starts with a wrong information, i.e. that the trip Bergen - Kirkenes - Bergen would be two weeks. In fact, it is 11 days, and it's NOT 7 days to Kirkenes either, but 5 1/2 days. So much for that.
Maybe that tells you something about the accuracy of the rest of the video ... he goes on ssayig postive things about his cabin, the food and so son ... but then complains about the price .... what an awkward littel film.
I'm glad you liked the video! Thanks for watching!
Can you pay with "just" a debitcard (with the visa logo) on Hurtigturen or do you need a creditcard? Experience, anyone?
I'm pretty sure you can use a debit card. Typically so long as they show the Visa logo, it doesn't matter if it's debit or credit.
Total lie!!!!! we are from the US and took the round trip cruise it was one of the best most memorable cruises we ever took... the staff on board was wonderful this is an expedition ship with about 250 people not luxury cruise line with 2500 to 5000 people.... Food was wonderful and met wonderful people from many countries. Room was great and so were the excursions. Also you are wrong about the info for the northern lights... must not have ask... they has a tv screen on the decks to show round the clock the rotation of the magnetic field and if you leave the speaker on in your room they will alert you no matter what time of day or night they can be seen, oh and by the way we were on the same ship so take the whole cruise before you review the whole trip!!!!!!
Great to hear you enjoyed your trip!
Is Markus from Sweden !?
Ja det är jag, men bor i Schweiz sen många år.
That he is Swedish explain it all, Sweeds dont like Norway since we declared independence.
Hey Markus, I really want to thank u, we paid less than the half with your tip to book on the Norwegian page!
I am very happy to hear this. Well done! And thanks for watching!
I LIVE IN NORWAY AND HURTIGRUTEN IS DE BEST CRUISE EVER❤
Great to hear that you love them!
Buddy, you need to get a steady-cam to make the video smooth. I had to bail out after your visit to the store, quite jumpy. You have a nasty attitude about this ship; I think your expectations were way too high.
You're right, that shot could have been a lot steadier. Thanks for watching!
I'm sorry but you are so wrong two days as opposed to two weeks. Where is the reality of this?
My wife and I have travelled extensively around the world and did the BKB trip five years ago.
We thoroughly enjoyed it and would love to return at a different time of year to compare the difference of weather.
Complaining about the hotel before, the check in, the room. Your a whinger
I'm glad you had a good experience! I did too, on Havila a few days later.
Utter rubbish
A very good value experience for those without stupid pretensions
Thanks for watching!
This video is not a Premium Experience.
Funny!
I found your weird facial expressions and your insipid little voice to be weird and distracting but your ignorance is of much more concern. Your supposed “scam” is nothing of the sort. This ferry company receives significant subsidies from the Norwegian government for the services it provides to Norwegians and their coastal communities. These subsidies are passed on to Norwegian passengers in the form of ticket subsidies. There is no logical reason to pass the subsidies on to benefit foreign tourists. Norwegian passengers are subsidised, foreign tourists are not. No scam involved, only an expression of your ignorance.
So the subsidies only go to Hurtigruten and not to Havila? They operate the same route, just on different days. And on Havila, the prices in Norwegian and English are the same.
@@MarkusTravels Havila provides no services that qualify them for government subsidies. They’re merely a tourism operator. Unlike Hurtigruten ships, Havila ships aren’t designed to carry freight, they don’t carry mail and they provide no essential public transport service. If Havila ceased operation, few would notice. If Hurtigruten did so, it would cause major problems. I’d suggest that our government likely wouldn’t let them fail. The carriage of Norwegian passengers attracts no subsidy on Havila, giving them no obligation to charge lower fares to Norwegians. Your ignorance in alleging your imaginary “scam” is staggering. Clearly your knowledge of the shipping or tourism industries is non existent.
@@katarinamaersksekkingstad4480 Ah, now I see what happened. You must be thinking of a different company than Havila Kystruten AS. Havila Kystruten AS operates 4 of the 11 ships on the coastal express route; they do carry mail (they even fly the Post flag!); they do carry cargo; even a few cars. It's the same service along the coast, same ports, same timetable, only that Havila does it better than Hurtigruten. I tried both on the same route, but in different directions.
@@MarkusTravels Not surprisingly, you’re wrong again, just as you were about your imaginary “scam”. As expected from such a feeble looking little man, you have a real problem with simply admitting you made a mistake.
Curiously, Havila do claim to carry a few cars and cargo. Strangely in a country where well over 90%of the cars on our roads are electric or hybrid, they refuse to carry electric or hybrid cars. They’re also unable to load or unload cars at most ports of call, leaving me to wonder how effectively they can load or offload cargo. My father in law ships fresh fish up the coast to these settlements. Far from doing that “better than Hurtigruten”, Havila is entirely incapable of offering an acceptable service to the coastal communities. Their less frequent service fails to meet community needs. Hurtigruten operates 7 ships, allowing a more regular service to the communities. We clearly have very different priorities and expectations from a scheduled ferry service. We’ve travelled on Hurtigruten boats several times, are heading to deliver gifts to Alta tomorrow evening from Bergen and will again be perfectly happy on Hurtigruten. If Havil are operating as a mail boat, as you claim, they certainly aren’t passing that subsidy on to Norwegian passengers. You’re a tedious little man from whom I’d welcome no further communication.
0/10 pronounced polarlys in swedish not norwegian very disappoint
Agreed. Egregious.
Some people simply aren’t suited to narration. This guy presents as more than a little weird, a perpetual winger and petty in the extreme.
Thank you for sharing your valuable opinion about me!
@@MarkusTravels I doubt it’s of any value to you, given your disinterest in either the thoughts of others or the facts of a situation.
@@katarinamaersksekkingstad4480 This right here, this is a classic comment!
Mannen er svensk - det sier alr
Det stämmer ju, det första du säger. Det andra vet jag inte vad det ska betyda.
Thank you for making this video. I was considering a trip with them but after watching your video I will be booking with a different line. You are not the first person to say this line is not the best line to cruise on.
Thanks for watching! I'm glad you found it useful for your decision!
I am a Norwegian. I know Hurtigruten too well as i live on the coastline.
My word is.. Stay away from it, its indeed the worst and insanly expensive.
after TDR Capital took over the ownership its been all downhill.
Great to hear your experience! Do you find Havila better, like I did?
We clearly have very different definitions of “insanely expensive” my wife, our two 11 year old daughters and I sail from Bergen to Alta on Tuesday. Our daily cost each is just over 100 NOK which includes the journey itself, our two cabins, three meals daily, internet access and spectacular scenery. To me, that represent excellent value.
You're just a hater, nothing else!!
Thank you for that valuable feedback Mr. Viking!
Thanks for showing this and telling us the scams. Personally I don´t like boat tripps, going sea sick, but going south I migth take the Göteborg-Kiel ferry albeit Stena allways over charge you!
I was actually planning to take the Kiell ferry home to Gothenburg this Christmas. But with the train, it turned out to be cheaper to fly from Switzerland.
It's not a scam... On the Norvegian page, he booked a standard coastal express, and on the "International" page, a full voyage. (URL and name of the trip are different...).
@@MR-qu5sm Now that's a good explanation. Thanks for sharing it!
A family member booked this trip, and while preparing for the trip, I ran across this video. I really hoped it was off the mark, but having just returned from the trip, I can say the criticism was spot on. For the people who say "it's a ferry, not a cruise" (in fact this is Hurtigruten's own line), I would say that is EXACTLY the issue. The ship stops for under an hour in most ports. For the major towns we would have been interested, the ship stopped after midnight (Tromso), or in the early hours of the morning, where nothing is open. When the ship is running late, they will cancel excursions (no refund, only onboard credit) or cancel stops all together. So you will actually see very little of Norway on this trip.
So given all that, you would hope the on-board experience would be excellent. It is not. The cabins are cramped and uncomfortable. The food is so-so. Everything is staggeringly expensive.
Use it to get from point to point? Sure, you are working with the purpose of the route. Sleep on board? No. There are simply much better ways to travel.
Thanks for sharing your experience! With such a pretty coastline, there's nothing wrong with seeing Norway from the sea. But if you want to see it from the ground, there are indeed better options.
@@MarkusTravels When it's January and stormy there isn't much to see of the coastline 😢