OM% I had to log out of merch store..... I'm a vet tech and LOOOVE all animals, even pick up spiders and put them outside-- EXCEPT slugs they actually trigger panic attacks ‼️ I have salt containers by all my doors
The smell of burning flesh is going to be noticed to all the houses north south east and west, wind or no wind! Not to mention Tammy, or Garth had to have noticed a smell! Not being gross, but there are many cases where human parts were being burned outside and the neighbors gave witness to the smell, they thought it was a bar b que. Were neighbors interviewed about any smell that day ?
Plenty of people don't like dogs because they are a sensory nightmare... I don't fault anyone for not liking them tbh. I like them, but I'd never own one bc i just don't have time or space for one. I think most people who own them shouldn't. Tldr most people who shouldn't own them make many people not like dogs.
@@Libbertyonebut her dad said he wasn’t going to be coming back in the conversation she had with him while he was in the police car. She never asked him WHY he wouldn’t be coming back.
Ya shocked me too, the person convicted of conspiracy to kill her mother. I think they all practiced the light & dark concept and it's used on family like she stated they used on herself. Scary religious practice imo
Imagine living in the house where 2 children were murdered and buried as well as your own mum’s death scene. Sums up Emma’s disregard for everything that has happened.
Working full time, running the publishing company, working inside the house, working outside in the yard. Dealing with a controlling, emotionally abusive slug, and ungrateful children.
Yup! How about the neighbor that died so quickly after the burning of the bodies? They said he was nosy, perhaps he saw something and had to be taken Out?
I feel frustrated as a woman that obvious symptoms of menopause are treated like a mystery fatal illness by her family. I find that religious families especially avoid these topics so I shouldn’t be surprised. And I’m 45 years old and I get into bed early after exhausting days, too. The woman worked her butt off and was also physically active. Good gravy, we aren’t on the verge of death, WE ARE TIRED.
Amen JenniLynn. I was single parenting my youngest kids who are twins and were in high school at the time, and i was going through menopause working two jobs! I was exhausted I would literally come home eat dinner clean up and go to bed. I pray to God the jury sees this. She worked all day she went to clogging she went to Zumba she had had a bad marriage she was depressed most likely because of the menopause and her bad marriage! I know when I was going through menopause it made me feel like I was going crazy on certain days and my hormones were all over the place. I would have panic attacks at work when the hot flashes first started. I would feel this burning feeling from my forehead all the way down my body they were scary.
Or even just introversion. I like to go to bed early because after working and looking after a family all day, I need time alone in a quiet environment (my bed) to decompress. She wasn't going to sleep, she was chillaxing
So right..like it’s a disease to go through menopause. It is a natural past of aging. It was sso hurtful to hear Emma talking about her mother that way.
I'm 53. I just wanted to scream at her when I heard her lies and obvious brainwashing. I wanted to yell ITS MENOPAUSE, ever heard of it? It's so debilitating. It's not even discussed in open society let alone lds households. Every symptom she talked about can be attributed to meno and post menopausal condition. I don't think her testimony did anything to help her father. She was so obviously lying. Her manner, her obvious brainwashing, was all there to see. She should be charged with perjury. These folks are something else. Prior is ridiculous at this point.
Tammy was not going to bed early because of her health ... it was because she was upset and depressed ... she's having to carry all the weight of the household and family and a cherry on top she finds out Chad is having an affair with his goddess. Tammy was going onto her bedroom to avoid what was happening
@@meganbliss7284 if it’s a public school, she should be gone by the weeks end. I think people need to realize their children are not safe around these people who seem to lack any critical thinking skills.
The school principal has to take note of this situation n monitor emma closely n seriously of her thoughts n actions in this case as her profession may be questionable
Oh my goodness yes! THIS! I thought this as I listened to her strange voice and cadence. I would NOT be ok with this individual having any influence over a young child, let alone my own child!
Those kids and Tammy endured decades/years of coercive control. They are scared to death by their Father/Prophet. An aside: Since 1830, the LDS Church has had 17 prophets. So, this kind of status is very real to their experience and belief system.
Addendum: “Since the establishment of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in 1830, 17 men have served as the president of the Church. Latter-day Saints consider each of these men to be prophets who received revelation from God.”
In all my life, the only time I’ve ever searched wind direction was when we were trying to determine whether there would be a lot of wild fire smoke at a vacation destination we were headed to. It’s definitely not a super common thing to be searching.
I can’t even begin to imagine what Aunt Vickie is feeling. She loved Garth and Emma. They lied on the stand. They committed perjury. They completely disrespected their mom. Heartbreaking.
Hey guys I found it interesting and I’m sure many of you or one of you or all of you have already connected the dots that the night Tammy was killed was the same night that Garth would be gone at night until one in the morning so she was home alone with her, loving ChadDeville
I love that little, Miss Emma described the "cozy cone" the way she did! It is ABSOLUTE PROOF that she's 100% aware of the previous testimonies, that she 100% believes that her information about this matters and shows that she is willing to mold her testimony to fit the defenses narrative, which makes her 100% NOT CREDABLE. She’s literally adding knots to the rope that will inevitability hang her evil father. GO EMMA!
So true thank you! Prior let her lay it on way, way too thick. I blame him for letting her look like a crazy person and putting Chad in front if the firing squad. Here's hoping!!
I think Emma's testimony showed depression in Tammy before her death not ill physical health...AND disassociation by her robotic responses and reference to her own "possession".
Yes her describing that cone is 100% proof she knows what is going on in this trial. She wasnt banned fr watching it as a “victim.” The only way she could support her father is the intense brainwashing Chad has done with that child since the day she was born. It is pure evil.
I felt the same way! It was obvious to me, by the way she added so much more info to the questions, that she heard previous testimony and was there to set the “ story” straight.
Yip! When she said it was her who googled SW winds, she then answered without being promoted, why she used her parents computer instead of her phone or own computer, and how could she use their computer if it was password protected.
Does Emma not realize that she’s implicating herself in the crime by claiming to have googled the wind direction? Daddy is happy to throw his princess under the bus to get a chance to save his own skin.
Agree I am Australian and saw and heard that and I thought the same thing! 😳 What are you saying, to save your father you state you believe your dads weird stuff pretty much and he is innocent and then say you looked into the weather, not your FATHER WHICH IMPLICATES YOU😳😳😳❓
What teacher do you know, who goes to Dad’s house, to use a computer to google a wind direction? All the teachers I know, even 30 years ago, had personal laptops where they kept notes on lesson plans, grading records, and developed quizzes and tests. So why, in 2019, does a married woman, who has a full time career as a teacher, need to use Dad’s computer. Even Garth, in his later testimony stated that he went to work on his teaching work on his laptop in his bedroom.
Isn't this gonna backfire on Chad? The defense keeps saying that Lori introduced these beliefs and ideas to Chad, but Emma's testimony is proving that Chad has held all these beliefs prior to knowing Lori.
The scaffolding of the belief system is textbook Mormon doctrine. Be it Lori, Chad, or perhaps even Heather Daybell. If the current Mormon president/prophet had announced that he had received direct word from God-not dissimilar to Chad’s prophecies-what would Heather have done…being a strong believer in the church hierarchy?
@@llamamama2910 Heather Daybell followed her ward’s chain-of-command, reporting Chad Daybell to the Bishop;(?) or whomever she was permitted to file a concern with-according to her position as a female in the church. Generally, if one fears there is a Jim Jones in the making, whom should be alerted?
Exactly, Is that like being a little bit pregnant? Either there is electricity or there isn't. There was enough power to plug in a guitar amp according to her testimony. I don't know exactly how much electricity a guitar amp would need, but It would be substantially more that say a light bulb. So I thought that was a weird statement as well.
I’m 49, my Dad died when I was 12 and to this day I vividly remember the day and what happened. These Daybells have e been coached. Chad coached Emma, Emma coached the siblings. They can’t cope under cross examination and trip themselves up. I hope they bring perjury charges on both of then
“If” Tammy went to bed early it was probably to get away from Chad, her controlling & abusive husband. She probably read or played games on her phone & communicated with her friends & family. “If” she did sleep a lot, she was probably depressed because she found out her husband was having an affair. So so sad that Tammy’s kids are not behind their mom. It’s sick Emma has a relationship with Lori. Their dad & Lori tell them the kids are safe then they are found brutally murdered in their dad’s backyard & not one question is asked how they got there from their “safe” place. To not even question either one of their guilts. Crazy.
Love how we are all sleep deprived and should get more sleep, even 9 hours, and going to bed early is healthy then suddenly you do go to bed early and people think you are deadly ill?? 🙄
So, as a 52 year old woman going through menopause, I find it interesting that ALL of Tammy’s symptoms are similar to my symptoms in menopause🤔🤨 they are NOT symptoms that proceed what happened to her.. it’s such a shame they’re trying to make her sound sick and unhealthy when it sounds like she was very much a middle aged mom who was working her butt off for her family.
Everything you say is so true and plausible. Also she had (had) a busy life (financial provider, mother and caretaker, prob. household and yardwork, load of responsibilties/mental load, etc.), was exhausted and maybe even suffered from burnout at that point. Also also she had depression, which can make you sort of lethargic at times. Also also also a difficult relationship with her husband, probably she felt the relationship falling apart for some time without a clear path out of that dilemma. Apart from that there are completely healthy people who are "early birds" and that's just their natural bio-rythm at which they thrive, I'm one of them. Tammy seems to have been a normal human being with talents and faults, like everyone of us. Shame on her own family to not accept her as one.
I thought I pretty much knew the main players in this case. But Emma’s testimony today sealed the deal for me in my questions if Emma participated in the murders of the kids. There has always been huge raised brows over Emma’s conduct that I couldn’t quite make sense of. First, there’s the video shown of her dad in the cop car the day they found the kids in the backyard. Anyone in that situation who was clueless would be out of their mind, screaming, “dad, WTH is going on? They found bodies on the property! Is it the missing kids? Why did they arrest you?” But not Emma. Not one question from Emma. The only thing you can infer from this is that she already knew the answers to those questions. Then when she testified she did a search online the day before Tylee was murdered about wind direction and weather, and never made any such searches after that day, tells you she was a part of the planning of the Satanic death cult who practiced child sacrifice. Then there was the head-scratching, brow-raising behaviors of choosing to move into Chad’s home -where you knew murdered children were buried in you backyard, when you have 3 children of your own. Nothing says “home sweet home” like knowing your backyard was the scene of a gruesome child dismemberment and attempt to incinerate the body. Sorry, no one who is normal, who lives in reality, would choose to live in such a place. We also learned in trial that Emma contacted Lori frequently in jail as well, and speaks to her dad daily in jail. She obviously doesn’t find anything wrong about child murder and the abuse of corpse, lying, adultery and theft. But she says she does share in her father’s teaching in the concept of a rating system to determine a person’s dark and light status. And we know that Chad taught that once a person is rated dark, the only thing to do is murder them. I think based on what has been revealed in trial, that any school who employs Emma to be near children should be sued for child endangerment.
Chad had spent hours across the street with her while the police searched his property. Emma didn't ask after he was placed in the police car because she already knew the answer. Remember, Chad was stopped by the police after leaving Emma's house when he was on his way to Priors office.
Emma also said Chad’s emotions of happiness were because we believe families are forever and this was just a pause. Emma knows that the LDS church teaches that is based on keeping covenants and being worthy. The minute Chad cheated, their marriage no longer eternal in LDS teachings. Emma clearly has a narrative that is convenient
How could Garth think his mom was alive and needed help when he says he walked into the room and his dad was pacing around grabbing his head saying “what do I do? What do I do?” Also, I’m the cop car body cam with Chad and Emma, not only does Chad mention getting rid of the mattress and something about some books that had fallen? But he also says “yeah they’re not going to luminal or anything.” ??? WHY did he say that??
I have been a mortician for over thirty years and a few things Garth said seem scripted. We have heard twice now, that there was a loud thump, alerting them that Tammy was dead. Once by Chad and now by Garth, that Tammy's, lifeless body miraculously moved and, fell off the bed. First dead bodies don't randomly exert energy and fall off beds. LUDICROUS! They claim she fell halfway of bed and made a big thump. However, both Chad and Garth stated that her body was cold and stiff. This thump story is laughable. If rigor set in, it would be absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for her body to hit the floor with enough force to make a thump especially while she was still half on the bed. Her torso and neck would be stiff so if her legs and feet were still on the bed and half her body off the bed, her head would hardly touch the floor. If her ankles and feet were on the on the bed and her head was touching the floor there would be damage to her face or forehead because of the angle of impact. Still it would not make a house shaking thump. It takes several hours for a body, especially under blankets to cool down. It is not like she was fading away in hospice. Hours earlier she was supposedly walking around, coughing, vomiting bloody foam, and wiping it up with towels...oh yeah, then she "choked'. Sad that no one thought this was 911 worthy phone call but a guy with a paintball gun was? Anyway, a warm, pliable dead body pushed completely off a bed, would make a loud thump, but they said she was stiff and so cold and her feet were on the bed. Sorry, they can't have it both ways. Also, why was she so cold? Was she killed outside? We absolutely need to see a reenactment of this laughable scenario.
I think Lauren is onto something, with the two beds. Eg Tammy sleeping in the cosy cone, chad and Garth found her there and moved her back to bed. The main bed in the normal house.
It was interesting when Lyndsey Blake asked Emma if she would be surprised to learn that Chad wrote that he was sad but not for the reason people thought. Emma really tried to skate past that with no response. That one evidently wasn't on her preprogrammed list of answers to gift.
My takeaway from the entire day's testimony? This was Tammy's family. These family members said that they knew Tammy best, and all the other testimony is folks who can be no more than strangers or acquaintances. Strangers had nicer things to say about Tammy than her own family members. These family members made Tammy out to be a recluse who did nothing but computer games/apps sitting on the coach eating a Quarter Pounder, lying and cheating her fitbit just to win because she was too lazy to do the work yet did all the managing of the family business, maintain the garden/pet cemetery, carrying a bunch of boxes all over school, and fitting in some zumba and clogging in every week. I mean, is this a realistic picture of the person they supposedly cared for and loved? I heard it straight from Emma's mouth during today's testimony -- Chad is the head of the Patriarchy. That's all I needed to know from her.
add in the testimony of the church lady that said how much Tammy did for the church. Her friends and co-workers appreciated Tammy's time and effort more than her family. How on earth were they getting anything done once Tammy was gone?
We were in the courtroom today, after listening this and chatting with my friend who was also there we came up with an idea…. All the talk of the cozy cone, how it’s soundproof, and the difficulty navigating between it and the house combined with the video of Emma and Chad and the mention of moving that mattress got us thinking…. Was Tammy killed in the cozy cone? Could the mattress be the murder weapon? Like maybe Chad or Alex or whoever pinned Tammy under the mattress in the soundproof area and asphyxiated her. Might be an indicator Emma knows more as well 🤔🤔🤔
Tammy's family has to be heartbroken. I heard the kids didn't even go to their grandmother's funeral. Not to mention, she got a lil angry with prosecution, so capable of emotion.... but shows NO EMOTION about her mom. ! I also think she perjured herself too
My takeaways from today's testimony was a mixture of "I guess I'm not surprised that Chad would raise children of the corn", and " So this is what it looks like when people get lobotomized". Other takeways: 1. If you're vomiting and sick, you typically don't want mcdonalds. 2. Sleep apnea varies mild, mod, and severe. People can have it for years until they get diagnosed. It's rare that it would kill you let alone without causing cardiac events too. 3. Emma denied watching the trial, yet Prior asked her if she remembered testimony from weeks back at the beginning of her testimony. 4. You can't have endless refills of antidepressants without seeing a dr. 5. People commonly get tired in their 40s+, and they don't die. 6. It's weird you'd go to the dr to get pain meds for your elbow, because you fell on ice, yet not go because you faint, have anemia, or have low blood pressure. 7. Emma was not credible at all. The possession story was bizarre. This whole family just seems more nutty the more we see of it. 8. Does Prior expect us all to believe the neighbors/friends, employees, law enforcement, medical professionals and everyone not on Chad's side is trying to frame him? That we are supposed to ignore his own texts and phone calls and listen to Emma? Lol
THEORY: Chad tells Tammy to go sleep in the Cozy as he is tired of not sleeping in his bed! (She won’t sleep with him because she knows he is having an affair!) She does that night and Alex comes in thru the CC door, smothers Tammy, they both move her to her bed and stage the scene waiting for Garth to come home. That could be another reason he told Emma to get rid of the mattress. Just a theory from an old woman crime watcher. Any ideas anyone?
I was donating blood once and was turned down due to iron deficiency (anemia), ate some of the right veggies, and was able to give blood next time. It was a quick fix without a doctor for me. Never had the problem again.
Emma is vulnerable to becoming like her dad, and with the same beliefs on the dark and light aspect, including her own family, a chilling thought as the young ones go through puberty.
I found it especially interesting that Garth made a SPECIFIC reference about Tammy using BRUISE CREAM. Didnt mention any other "natural products" only the product the defense claims Tammy used often for her "chronic bruising".
How do you go to bed between six and eight if you’re out clogging until 9 PM and when you do come home, you’re confronted by a nut job in the driveway with a gun pointed at you
I caught the connection to Ballard! My jaw dropped as it did when Emma admitted to searching wind direction. My heart is sad and my stomach sick over today. Rest in Love Sweet Tammy.
I was struck how Garth, self-described introvert, quiet and mild-mannered, enjoyed putting on a costume and scaring people at a haunted house. Chilling, when you think of him as Chad's "mini-me," as Dr. John described him. Compare to mild-mannered, humble author Chad, who wouldn't kill anyone, vs. the patriarch, prophet, and translated being, who (allegedly) killed his wife, and may also have done terrible things to Tylee, and attacked her body violently with yard tools.
So I am just going to put it out here... Why would Emma need to use her families computer to check the wind direction? She is a teacher, and lives in her own house, and probably has her own smart phone, why not use her own computer???
She stated she did not have a smart phone at that time, but the points you make about computer at her home ....at her work... hopefully will be thought about by jurors.
@@mardyross2838I think Emma actually said she was late to getting a smart phone so it was easier for her to look on a computer. IMO she had a smart phone but it makes very little sense that she went next door to use her parents computer (she was a teacher at this time)!
You know it's interesting that chad was the head of the house but couldn't hold a job. He was committing adultery but still was able to be the spiritual leader. 🤢 I wanna know when Tammy's dead grandma is gonna talk to chad & tell him he's a snake?! How could these kids dishonor their mothers' memory? Thank you, Dr. John & Lauren❤❤
Emma also said that she didn’t know about Lori later until after her dad was arrested. While he is detained, she tells her dad,”Oh, I already have one of those set up because I talk to Lori.” WTH?????
I'm guessing she bought her dad's story that they met shortly after both their spouses died, and didn't find out they had an affair while Tammy was alive. But she just accepted their quick marriage? Didnt question that?
Emma was actually saying that she didn’t know that Chad cheated on her mom with Lori, not that she didn’t know about Lori. When Emma was talking to chad in the police car, she knew that chad & Lori were married. Chad’s family/children had already gone on vacation with chad & Lori, after they were married
I feel so sorry for Tammy. Being married to Chad, and then having to deal with his clones. Thankfully, she had her family, good friends, her pets, and her games. She deserved so much more.
The way Emma said "she liked games," and the inflection was so passively judgemental. It stood out to me so much.. like I think she disagreed with some of her mom's lifestyle choices and it really came across in her testimony.
I don’t believe Tammy’s children turned on their mother until their dad told them to, after she died. I want to believe that Tammy’s children were good to their mother when she was alive
@@NunyaBeeswax-ck8ox I don’t think Chad became a cult leader overnight. Chad didn’t like dogs - no dogs. Chad didn’t like Tammy playing games - no games while he was around, but the children could play? He ruled the roost with an iron fist, and children learn who the dominant parent is and will emulate him. The children saw this behavior their entire life, so they continue this behavior now. The manner in which Emma so gladly “threw her mother under the bus” demonstrated the control he has over them. Everyone around Tammy saw her as a loving, caring, healthy, friendly. Only Chad created the story of poor fat, unhealthy, at death’s door Tammy.
To Dr John: The wind direction was so that Chad could figure if the smell of burning flesh would reach a neighbor and make a nosey neighbor come and ask what he's doing. It's not about, can he start a fire or if he can bury Tylee's chopped up remains. He worried about the smell. People living nea a crematorium know exactly what that is. Since Chad had prior knowledge, he would be concerned about being discovered.
Cross exam did great getting Emma to slip up saying "Of course he (Chad) was upset he saw (Tammy) die!" 😮 How did he see Tammy die, Emma? I thought she died while he slept!
They do know these things. We have always had dogs. They can sense people with bad energy, bad intentions. I love kitties, they have always gotten along with the dogs.
Absolutely agree on Emma using their computer. Between that, her absolute belief in possession, her not asking any questions as police were searching, her not asking how are bodies in your yard? What do you mean you’re not coming back? If she believes Lori put the bodies there, why doesn’t she mind that she is giving Lori money in jail? Why does she not ask any of that then or any time since in visits or in phone calls. If her mom died naturally, why would she refuse to speak to police or look at her mother’s autopsy?? None of that makes sense for an educated teacher who is mourning her mother’s loss. :’something is terribly amiss and I worry now that she knows more than o ever thought!
Yes. They were absolutely coached. Her testimony was overwhelming and overboard - she was bizarre, rehearsed and provided way too much detail for simple questions - don’t forget she also suddenly has memory loss when the prosecution crossed
Emma definitely either watched the trial or Prior coached her on exactly what to say. Emma spoke waaaay too much and in too much detail about the cozy cone ( how it was inconvenient to get to and the little electricity it had, etc.) She would never had known that anyone cared about it unless someone specifically told her what to talk about, since the stairs were never an issue until the recent testimony saying Chad told people different stories.
Her kids did not appreciate her sacrifices anymore than Chad did. Also, I retire to my bedroom early for time to myself. Emma came across as hateful towards her mother, that’s not doing her daddy any good. RIP Tammy, so much love for you from people who never knew you ❤
It was blatantly obvious Emma was lying. I don't think any of the witnesses so far have helped Chad. It makes it worse imo. I also bruise super easy which means if someone gripped my arm, their fingerprints would be on my arm... that didn't help either
Lauren, Today was so heartbreaking. How can Tammy's children go on the stand and lie for their dad? I was so sad for Tammy I cried quite a bit. How can they stick up for that MONSTER? My heart hurts for Tammy. Shouldn't they get put in jail for perjury? It was only obvious. I thought Garth was so close to his mother.... I was hoping for Garth to side with his mom
So her husband & children were all aware of these health problems, poor eating habits & lack of exercise but Garth is bringing her mcdonald's? Nobody's trying to get her to a doctor? Everyone is just like yeah mom's in poor health and going to die soon? Such a load of crap.
They all knew that she was most likely going thru menopause or peri menopause, and depressed about her cheating husband, which would have caused all of what they say she was going thru
I thought Emma was an excellent witness for the prosecution. Hopefully the jury realizes that if chad could convince his children to turn against their sweet loving deceased mother, he could certainly convince people to murder
Introverts have friends! They tend to have a few amount of friends, but they are good quality friendships! Tammy went through all the never-ending work that was her life, yet she was overweight, unfriendly, and out-of-shape. Geez, who needs enemies when you have a daughter like Emma! 😭😭😭 Oh, and about "googling the wind direction": Well, yeah. The entire reason why it was significant that ANYONE would google the wind direction the day before cremating their loved one in a fire pit, is so that burning human flesh wouldn't be blowing on the neighbors... (which might incriminate them)
I agree with you about being an introvert and that we keep a couple friends very close. But everything we’ve heard about Tammy is that she was very outgoing and talkative with EVERYONE. She wasn’t an introvert… she was STALKED by her husband through her family (mainly Emma) so I could see her going home and wanting to shut herself in her room just to get away from Emma and have some alone time.
Honestly about the Knox Berry Vacation and the $8,000, they should have asked how she felt spending her mom's blood money and knowing Lori and her father were spending not only her mom's blood money but blood money for the two dead children buried in her father's back yard. And how does she feel when her own children play in the yard where two dead children's remains were found, do they build cozy fires in the fire pit where they chopped, hacked and burned a 16 year old girl? Or maybe she is okay with it because of her shared belief with her father. SURE, that's how you show love and respect for your mom. He was dancing on a beach getting married 10 days after they buried her loving mom, knowing there were two dead children buried in his backyard? Disgusting and Shameful! 😢
I've felt all along that she's in it for the money. She liked the windfall from Tammy. She will write a book & earn some money. She's globally disliked & karma will come for her. She shouldn't be teaching children.
Garth never mentioned Tammy was throwing up. His room is right across from Tammy. He was awake playing games and all was quiet. Then Chad woke him up asking for help. Garth comes in and single handedly lifts his cold, stiff, gray mother back into the bed. Chad is bigger and stronger than Garth. Exactly what did Chad need help with? Chad needed a witness then he told Garth the story.
I think so that his dna would be on Tammy too. That’s my speculation. And that he could be his “witness” that his mother was “halfway on and off the bed” -that way Garth could be his witness to what happened.
I believe there are 2 reasons that all of Chad’s kids are still alive: (1) They were grown & (2) They had no monetary value. That’s it-no more & no less.
Also, Emma thought, and was trying to give the impression, she knew her mom and she even stated the life insurance was for both of them when in fact it wasn’t and it proved she in fact didn’t know everything.
Emma said she had something dark on her, and it was anxiety, so her dad laid hands on her to rid her of the anxiety. My question is, why did tammy take prescription prozac and not have Chad lay hands on her to heal her depression?
Thank you Dr. J for pointing out the bizarre perseveration on raccoons! I have no doubt that raccoons exist in Idaho. I fail to comprehend how that mitigates finding bodies in anyone’s backyard!
The hand pose Chad had today was the same as when Tylee's remains were being discussed. When he hugs his elbows it's self-soothing. It's an anxiety marker.
I feel a deep sadness for Emma. She’s completely controlled by her father. I hope that one day she regrets her betrayal of her precious mama. Poor Tammy. 😢She was married to a monster.
I came here to say that Tammi isn't innocent in all these bizarre beliefs. I'm glad to finally see another commenter with the same thoughts as me. Almost nobody ever mentions this. Tammi and Chad were both equally to blame for their children's twisted beliefs.
She was raised under severe coercive control, but ppl don’t like to think it could happen to them, so they demonize Emma instead of offering a modicum of empathy. Frankly, I think Tammy would be greatly saddened at the way her children are being vilified.
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What happened to raccoons being night animals?
Chad' treated Tammy like the men in the Daybell home treated Mrs Daybell, like Heather talked about! We need more info on the Daybell household
The smell of burning flesh is going to be noticed to all the houses north south east and west, wind or no wind! Not to mention Tammy, or Garth had to have noticed a smell! Not being gross, but there are many cases where human parts were being burned outside and the neighbors gave witness to the smell, they thought it was a bar b que. Were neighbors interviewed about any smell that day ?
I'm suspicious of people who don't like dogs, but I trust a dog when it doesn't like a person. - Bill Murray.
Huge red flag moment for me.
EXACTLY!
Dogs intuitively know who is good and bad. I think getting rid of JJ's dog was the first test of Lori's belief/trust and how dedicated she was to him.
Plenty of people don't like dogs because they are a sensory nightmare... I don't fault anyone for not liking them tbh. I like them, but I'd never own one bc i just don't have time or space for one. I think most people who own them shouldn't. Tldr most people who shouldn't own them make many people not like dogs.
Same!
I cannot for the life of me understand why Emma or Garth didn’t ask their father: “how in hell did these kids end up dead in your yard.
Their angle is, her dad didn’t even know that either… they want you to believe that Lori and Alex are the only ones responsible for the kids
@@Libbertyone. Don’t forget Gibb.
They think he was “set up”..
@@Libbertyonebut her dad said he wasn’t going to be coming back in the conversation she had with him while he was in the police car. She never asked him WHY he wouldn’t be coming back.
Emma never No motion at all. She acted like ""really"" who cares.
The fact that Emma is talking to Lori in prison, a convicted murderer for killing her own 2 children, tells me she knows WAY MORE. Thats not normal.
She for sure knows way more,the lies under oath makes it so much worse,
Ya shocked me too, the person convicted of conspiracy to kill her mother. I think they all practiced the light & dark concept and it's used on family like she stated they used on herself. Scary religious practice imo
Is Emma speaking to Lori in jail. Just read that n missed it if true?
Anyone think some of his kids had anything to? or are just in mind set to have to believe or be scared of dad?
Imagine living in the house where 2 children were murdered and buried as well as your own mum’s death scene. Sums up Emma’s disregard for everything that has happened.
staybent - disassociation, depersonalization. Sadly, her indoctrination has made her a zombie, a shell of a real human.
This completely blows my mind.
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Oh my gosh!!!! That is just creepy beyond belief!! something wrong with that woman
Emma is completely away with the fairies !
Working full time, running the publishing company, working inside the house, working outside in the yard. Dealing with a controlling, emotionally abusive slug, and ungrateful children.
And the church stuff, exercise classes and being a newish grand mother. Busy busy woman.
Poor Tammy deserved an award
@@CassieRDShe was in a cult and herself rated children light/dark.
No wonder she could have been tired
@@Catfluff521 And? She still was a hard working and honest woman despite her entire family hating on her. She didn't deserve to be murdered.
Does anyone else think Chad is a serial killer and many more would have died?
Don’t think so. But I believe Lori has.
I believe a lot more people would of died, Heather an his nephew that was called dark
They are both serial killers Lori & Chad… would’ve kept going! Heather Daybell would’ve been one of the next murdered😢
YES
Yup! How about the neighbor that died so quickly after the burning of the bodies? They said he was nosy, perhaps he saw something and had to be taken Out?
I feel frustrated as a woman that obvious symptoms of menopause are treated like a mystery fatal illness by her family.
I find that religious families especially avoid these topics so I shouldn’t be surprised.
And I’m 45 years old and I get into bed early after exhausting days, too.
The woman worked her butt off and was also physically active.
Good gravy, we aren’t on the verge of death, WE ARE TIRED.
Amen JenniLynn. I was single parenting my youngest kids who are twins and were in high school at the time, and i was going through menopause working two jobs! I was exhausted I would literally come home eat dinner clean up and go to bed. I pray to God the jury sees this. She worked all day she went to clogging she went to Zumba she had had a bad marriage she was depressed most likely because of the menopause and her bad marriage! I know when I was going through menopause it made me feel like I was going crazy on certain days and my hormones were all over the place. I would have panic attacks at work when the hot flashes first started. I would feel this burning feeling from my forehead all the way down my body they were scary.
Or even just introversion. I like to go to bed early because after working and looking after a family all day, I need time alone in a quiet environment (my bed) to decompress. She wasn't going to sleep, she was chillaxing
I'm a 43 yo wife and mother, and you nailed it! 😂
So right..like it’s a disease to go through menopause. It is a natural past of aging. It was sso hurtful to hear Emma talking about her mother that way.
I'm 53. I just wanted to scream at her when I heard her lies and obvious brainwashing. I wanted to yell ITS MENOPAUSE, ever heard of it? It's so debilitating. It's not even discussed in open society let alone lds households. Every symptom she talked about can be attributed to meno and post menopausal condition. I don't think her testimony did anything to help her father. She was so obviously lying. Her manner, her obvious brainwashing, was all there to see. She should be charged with perjury. These folks are something else. Prior is ridiculous at this point.
Chad calling anyone fat is so self projecting
Tammy was not going to bed early because of her health ... it was because she was upset and depressed ... she's having to carry all the weight of the household and family and a cherry on top she finds out Chad is having an affair with his goddess. Tammy was going onto her bedroom to avoid what was happening
Maybe depression. But done. Done with Slug.
I think she was enjoying her alone time, her me time.
Exactly.
Reading this comment made me cry 😢 😭 for Tammy !! I believe 💯 youre right ugh 💔
Given the exercise classes & weekly women's meeting all of which were held in the evening it doesn't seem like she was going to bed early at all.
Imagine Emma Daybell being your child’s teacher!!!! Terrifying
It’ll be interesting when she gets back to work, don’t you think?
@@meganbliss7284 if it’s a public school, she should be gone by the weeks end. I think people need to realize their children are not safe around these people who seem to lack any critical thinking skills.
No. Thanks.
The school principal has to take note of this situation n monitor emma closely n seriously of her thoughts n actions in this case as her profession may be questionable
Oh my goodness yes! THIS! I thought this as I listened to her strange voice and cadence. I would NOT be ok with this individual having any influence over a young child, let alone my own child!
So disturbing! I wonder what parents will do when they find out Emma Murray is their child’s teacher? That’s a no for my family!
She can only teach at LDS “schools” many are not even state certified 🤦🏼♀️
@@TararyzeMcg I’m LDS and I’ve never heard of these LDS schools that you speak of…. And I think this daybell family is batshit crazy!
@@TararyzeMcg there are church classes, like Sunday School, for infant/toddlers, 18 mths-until they turn 3. Then kids under 12, is called Primary...
Apparently I read off Reddit that parents have objected to her being a teacher involved closely with this case & that they don’t like it
@@59AlaskanEmma is teaching in a PUBLIC school. This has nothing to with Sunday school classes at church.
According to the autopsy, Tammy hadn't thrown up her meal, the contents of her stomach was potatoes and peanuts, not a burger .
I think Alex and Chad killed Tammy before Garth got back home
Agreed
Proof was temperature of Tammy and rigor mortis had set in.
1000%
Absolutely
We All Do
The more I hear from Emma, the more disgusted I am with her as a person. Absolutely disgraceful.
It sure is disgraceful, I knew they were going to lie but didn't think liar Emma was going to be like that against her beautiful Mum Tammy. XO
I AGREE! TAMMY HAD ALL THOSE CHILDREN AND NOT ONE OF THEM IS ON HER SIDE....WOW!
She’s absolutely terrifying!
Those kids and Tammy endured decades/years of coercive control. They are scared to death by their Father/Prophet.
An aside: Since 1830, the LDS Church has had 17 prophets. So, this kind of status is very real to their experience and belief system.
Addendum:
“Since the establishment of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in 1830, 17 men have served as the president of the Church. Latter-day Saints consider each of these men to be prophets who received revelation from God.”
When you check the weather you don't typically search for wind directions specifically
Right! I sure don't and I check the weather for storms bc I have anxiety with them.
In all my life, the only time I’ve ever searched wind direction was when we were trying to determine whether there would be a lot of wild fire smoke at a vacation destination we were headed to. It’s definitely not a super common thing to be searching.
Absolutely. And even if you don't have a smart phone. If you're a teacher..you have got to have a laptop or something to your disposal. Come on
Emma’s testament sounded like a script that she had learnt over and over again
Both of them used the same words to the same questions from the Prosecuter, absolutely learned the script that was given to them by Chad.
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I can’t even begin to imagine what Aunt Vickie is feeling. She loved Garth and Emma. They lied on the stand. They committed perjury. They completely disrespected their mom. Heartbreaking.
Yes. She has been on my heart.
I hope she disowns the traitors!!
My heart goes out to Aunt Vicky and her family. What a disrespectful and unloving way to treat your mother.
Why are you saying Garth lied? I think he was honest and humble. Maybe I’m wrong
Hey guys I found it interesting and I’m sure many of you or one of you or all of you have already connected the dots that the night Tammy was killed was the same night that Garth would be gone at night until one in the morning so she was home alone with her, loving ChadDeville
Tammy’s friends had more tears for Tammy than Tammy’s children. No emotion. So sad.
Tammy’s friends weren’t brainwashed by chad
@@NunyaBeeswax-ck8ox so very true.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed that. It's heartbreaking!
I don’t think they are brainwashed.
There are 5 children. Only 2 were willing to defend their father. It's sad that 2 were willing to turn their backs on their mom.
I love that little, Miss Emma described the "cozy cone" the way she did! It is ABSOLUTE PROOF that she's 100% aware of the previous testimonies, that she 100% believes that her information about this matters and shows that she is willing to mold her testimony to fit the defenses narrative, which makes her 100% NOT CREDABLE. She’s literally adding knots to the rope that will inevitability hang her evil father. GO EMMA!
So true thank you! Prior let her lay it on way, way too thick. I blame him for letting her look like a crazy person and putting Chad in front if the firing squad. Here's hoping!!
I think Emma's testimony showed depression in Tammy before her death not ill physical health...AND disassociation by her robotic responses and reference to her own "possession".
Yes her describing that cone is 100% proof she knows what is going on in this trial. She wasnt banned fr watching it as a “victim.” The only way she could support her father is the intense brainwashing Chad has done with that child since the day she was born. It is pure evil.
I felt the same way! It was obvious to me, by the way she added so much more info to the questions, that she heard previous testimony and was there to set the “ story” straight.
Didn’t you guys think Emma was almost answering the questions before they were done being asked?
Yip! When she said it was her who googled SW winds, she then answered without being promoted, why she used her parents computer instead of her phone or own computer, and how could she use their computer if it was password protected.
Yes
Very scripted
Yes, yes, yes. Like a little Chad cheerleader
Absolutely! 100%
I would NEVER EVER let one of my family members get anywhere near Emma’s classroom or even school if she was teaching there!
Garth teaches too and he teaches light n dark in he's class room. Scarey..
@@debijo5288I haven’t finished watching today. I paused after Emma. Nope, wouldn’t let them in his class either!
I agree, there has to be parents who have pulled their children and if they haven’t they will now.
Still shocked they're allowed to teach, and children at that. They had no compassion for the dead children in their own fathers yard.
Oh my gosh, NEVER!!!!!!
Does Emma not realize that she’s implicating herself in the crime by claiming to have googled the wind direction? Daddy is happy to throw his princess under the bus to get a chance to save his own skin.
Anybody and everybody
You mean "Chaddy"? Lol
Agree I am Australian and saw and heard that and I thought the same thing! 😳
What are you saying, to save your father you state you believe your dads weird stuff pretty much and he is innocent and then say you looked into the weather, not your FATHER WHICH IMPLICATES YOU😳😳😳❓
Yah, Chad doesn't seem to have any respect for women, including his wife and daughter.
What teacher do you know, who goes to Dad’s house, to use a computer to google a wind direction? All the teachers I know, even 30 years ago, had personal laptops where they kept notes on lesson plans, grading records, and developed quizzes and tests. So why, in 2019, does a married woman, who has a full time career as a teacher, need to use Dad’s computer. Even Garth, in his later testimony stated that he went to work on his teaching work on his laptop in his bedroom.
Most women get anemia at some point. All Emma showed was that her mother was overworked for an ungrateful household.
Isn't this gonna backfire on Chad? The defense keeps saying that Lori introduced these beliefs and ideas to Chad, but Emma's testimony is proving that Chad has held all these beliefs prior to knowing Lori.
The scaffolding of the belief system is textbook Mormon doctrine. Be it Lori, Chad, or perhaps even Heather Daybell.
If the current Mormon president/prophet had announced that he had received direct word from God-not dissimilar to Chad’s prophecies-what would Heather have done…being a strong believer in the church hierarchy?
Not Heather Daybell-she saw through the BS-maybe you are thinking of someone else?
@@llamamama2910 Heather Daybell followed her ward’s chain-of-command, reporting Chad Daybell to the Bishop;(?) or whomever she was permitted to file a concern with-according to her position as a female in the church.
Generally, if one fears there is a Jim Jones in the making, whom should be alerted?
Emma said there was electricity in the cozy cone, but "just a little bit" or "not that much" electricity. What on earth... ?
i thought that was hilarious too. just a little bit of electricity, just a little bit pregnant, just a little bit dead.
Cozy come WEIRD WTF
I think the word she used was "limited?" Also, Prior had told a witness there was NO electricity. They can't keep their lies straight.
Exactly, Is that like being a little bit pregnant? Either there is electricity or there isn't. There was enough power to plug in a guitar amp according to her testimony. I don't know exactly how much electricity a guitar amp would need, but It would be substantially more that say a light bulb. So I thought that was a weird statement as well.
She also said she doesn’t believe anyone should have autopsies. Crazy bunch.
A less charismatic cult leader there never was.
Amen to that.
I’m 49, my Dad died when I was 12 and to this day I vividly remember the day and what happened. These Daybells have e been coached. Chad coached Emma, Emma coached the siblings. They can’t cope under cross examination and trip themselves up. I hope they bring perjury charges on both of then
I'm the same,I'm 54 and my dad died when I was 12,I remember everything about that day,it's still clear in my mind,
“If” Tammy went to bed early it was probably to get away from Chad, her controlling & abusive husband. She probably read or played games on her phone & communicated with her friends & family. “If” she did sleep a lot, she was probably depressed because she found out her husband was having an affair. So so sad that Tammy’s kids are not behind their mom. It’s sick Emma has a relationship with Lori. Their dad & Lori tell them the kids are safe then they are found brutally murdered in their dad’s backyard & not one question is asked how they got there from their “safe” place. To not even question either one of their guilts. Crazy.
Love how we are all sleep deprived and should get more sleep, even 9 hours, and going to bed early is healthy then suddenly you do go to bed early and people think you are deadly ill?? 🙄
Remember Chad said his kids know how to keep secrets. That wouldn't be the first thing that I'd say about my kids.
Very telling
Especially if they are testifying for you.
It sounds creepy! Like the sort of thing a molester would say 😳
So, as a 52 year old woman going through menopause, I find it interesting that ALL of Tammy’s symptoms are similar to my symptoms in menopause🤔🤨 they are NOT symptoms that proceed what happened to her.. it’s such a shame they’re trying to make her sound sick and unhealthy when it sounds like she was very much a middle aged mom who was working her butt off for her family.
Everything you say is so true and plausible. Also she had (had) a busy life (financial provider, mother and caretaker, prob. household and yardwork, load of responsibilties/mental load, etc.), was exhausted and maybe even suffered from burnout at that point. Also also she had depression, which can make you sort of lethargic at times. Also also also a difficult relationship with her husband, probably she felt the relationship falling apart for some time without a clear path out of that dilemma. Apart from that there are completely healthy people who are "early birds" and that's just their natural bio-rythm at which they thrive, I'm one of them.
Tammy seems to have been a normal human being with talents and faults, like everyone of us. Shame on her own family to not accept her as one.
I thought I pretty much knew the main players in this case. But Emma’s testimony today sealed the deal for me in my questions if Emma participated in the murders of the kids. There has always been huge raised brows over Emma’s conduct that I couldn’t quite make sense of. First, there’s the video shown of her dad in the cop car the day they found the kids in the backyard. Anyone in that situation who was clueless would be out of their mind, screaming, “dad, WTH is going on? They found bodies on the property! Is it the missing kids? Why did they arrest you?” But not Emma. Not one question from Emma. The only thing you can infer from this is that she already knew the answers to those questions. Then when she testified she did a search online the day before Tylee was murdered about wind direction and weather, and never made any such searches after that day, tells you she was a part of the planning of the Satanic death cult who practiced child sacrifice. Then there was the head-scratching, brow-raising behaviors of choosing to move into Chad’s home -where you knew murdered children were buried in you backyard, when you have 3 children of your own. Nothing says “home sweet home” like knowing your backyard was the scene of a gruesome child dismemberment and attempt to incinerate the body. Sorry, no one who is normal, who lives in reality, would choose to live in such a place. We also learned in trial that Emma contacted Lori frequently in jail as well, and speaks to her dad daily in jail. She obviously doesn’t find anything wrong about child murder and the abuse of corpse, lying, adultery and theft. But she says she does share in her father’s teaching in the concept of a rating system to determine a person’s dark and light status. And we know that Chad taught that once a person is rated dark, the only thing to do is murder them. I think based on what has been revealed in trial, that any school who employs Emma to be near children should be sued for child endangerment.
After watching the kids testify, I would not want my kids in their classes. Something isn't right there.
I thought it was odd that Emma never asked why Chad was being taken into police custody when they were searching the property.
And that he told her he wasn’t coming home…. He knew.
Emma knew.
Yes that was weird - she knew.
Chad had spent hours across the street with her while the police searched his property. Emma didn't ask after he was placed in the police car because she already knew the answer. Remember, Chad was stopped by the police after leaving Emma's house when he was on his way to Priors office.
Loved the cross when she asked Emma if a man has an affair he is not following the covenants to be in the priesthood
I about cheered at that moment too! Emma's testimony was really hard to listen to because it was so unbelievable and so clearly coached.
And it went right over Emma’s head!
Emma also said Chad’s emotions of happiness were because we believe families are forever and this was just a pause. Emma knows that the LDS church teaches that is based on keeping covenants and being worthy. The minute Chad cheated, their marriage no longer eternal in LDS teachings. Emma clearly has a narrative that is convenient
@@jenniferbailey5914Not the sharpest tool in the shed, Emma.
@@tracymugleston4949family forever but he didn't even want to put his name on Tammy's grave stone..
How could Garth think his mom was alive and needed help when he says he walked into the room and his dad was pacing around grabbing his head saying “what do I do? What do I do?”
Also, I’m the cop car body cam with Chad and Emma, not only does Chad mention getting rid of the mattress and something about some books that had fallen? But he also says “yeah they’re not going to luminal or anything.” ??? WHY did he say that??
I am a teacher. My colleagues and I are always tired at the end of the day from the noise alone.
I have been a mortician for over thirty years and a few things Garth said seem scripted. We have heard twice now, that there was a loud thump, alerting them that Tammy was dead. Once by Chad and now by Garth, that Tammy's, lifeless body miraculously moved and, fell off the bed. First dead bodies don't randomly exert energy and fall off beds. LUDICROUS! They claim she fell halfway of bed and made a big thump. However, both Chad and Garth stated that her body was cold and stiff. This thump story is laughable. If rigor set in, it would be absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for her body to hit the floor with enough force to make a thump especially while she was still half on the bed. Her torso and neck would be stiff so if her legs and feet were still on the bed and half her body off the bed, her head would hardly touch the floor. If her ankles and feet were on the on the bed and her head was touching the floor there would be damage to her face or forehead because of the angle of impact. Still it would not make a house shaking thump. It takes several hours for a body, especially under blankets to cool down. It is not like she was fading away in hospice. Hours earlier she was supposedly walking around, coughing, vomiting bloody foam, and wiping it up with towels...oh yeah, then she "choked'. Sad that no one thought this was 911 worthy phone call but a guy with a paintball gun was? Anyway, a warm, pliable dead body pushed completely off a bed, would make a loud thump, but they said she was stiff and so cold and her feet were on the bed. Sorry, they can't have it both ways. Also, why was she so cold? Was she killed outside? We absolutely need to see a reenactment of this laughable scenario.
Let’s contact Cold Justice producers. They do excellent re-enactments.
I hope Lauren and Dr. John read this
I think Lauren is onto something, with the two beds.
Eg Tammy sleeping in the cosy cone, chad and Garth found her there and moved her back to bed. The main bed in the normal house.
Chad says he pulled the sheet causing her body to crash to the floor!
Can't believe there hasn't been a re-enactment.
If Tammy is the one who had sleep apnea, how is it that Garth only heard his father snoring?
Good one!
I did not even catch that. You have a good point there.
You're referring to one form of sleep apnea, obstructive.
Yep, I caught that too!
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I agree with Dr. John. As soon as I heard Emma say she googled the wind, I thought about her involvement in the murders too. ❤
It was interesting when Lyndsey Blake asked Emma if she would be surprised to learn that Chad wrote that he was sad but not for the reason people thought. Emma really tried to skate past that with no response. That one evidently wasn't on her preprogrammed list of answers to gift.
My takeaway from the entire day's testimony? This was Tammy's family. These family members said that they knew Tammy best, and all the other testimony is folks who can be no more than strangers or acquaintances. Strangers had nicer things to say about Tammy than her own family members. These family members made Tammy out to be a recluse who did nothing but computer games/apps sitting on the coach eating a Quarter Pounder, lying and cheating her fitbit just to win because she was too lazy to do the work yet did all the managing of the family business, maintain the garden/pet cemetery, carrying a bunch of boxes all over school, and fitting in some zumba and clogging in every week. I mean, is this a realistic picture of the person they supposedly cared for and loved? I heard it straight from Emma's mouth during today's testimony -- Chad is the head of the Patriarchy. That's all I needed to know from her.
add in the testimony of the church lady that said how much Tammy did for the church. Her friends and co-workers appreciated Tammy's time and effort more than her family. How on earth were they getting anything done once Tammy was gone?
Emma said that “He watched her die”
The only truth Emma told today
Emma didn’t cry for her mom but cried while her dad was hand cuffed in the police car
I doubt the jurors are going to believe Emma, Garth or Emma’s husband-they all sounded rehearsed and insincere.
Her lies were so obvious, I was nauseous watching it
I had to stop watching. It made me sick also!
It truly was "nauseous watching it", I was yelling at Emma thru my monitor, telling her how ignorant she is.
@@Lucretciela same!!
@@tj6930 same!
Emma and Garth are like Stepford Children. They could not even honor the mother over their father. Very sorry for Tammy's memory.
We were in the courtroom today, after listening this and chatting with my friend who was also there we came up with an idea…. All the talk of the cozy cone, how it’s soundproof, and the difficulty navigating between it and the house combined with the video of Emma and Chad and the mention of moving that mattress got us thinking…. Was Tammy killed in the cozy cone? Could the mattress be the murder weapon? Like maybe Chad or Alex or whoever pinned Tammy under the mattress in the soundproof area and asphyxiated her. Might be an indicator Emma knows more as well 🤔🤔🤔
I agree she was killed upstairs then carried down to her bed. Maybe that is why Chad wanted her to get rid of the mattress
Tammy's family has to be heartbroken. I heard the kids didn't even go to their grandmother's funeral. Not to mention, she got a lil angry with prosecution, so capable of emotion.... but shows NO EMOTION about her mom. ! I also think she perjured herself too
She also said it was hard for him to watch her die...talking about Tammy.. in my head I was like WATCHED 👀
Yes where was this???
I noticed that as well
I caught that too.
The jury better write that one down on their Notes..
She accidentally told the truth about her dad watching her mom die
My takeaways from today's testimony was a mixture of "I guess I'm not surprised that Chad would raise children of the corn", and " So this is what it looks like when people get lobotomized".
Other takeways:
1. If you're vomiting and sick, you typically don't want mcdonalds.
2. Sleep apnea varies mild, mod, and severe. People can have it for years until they get diagnosed. It's rare that it would kill you let alone without causing cardiac events too.
3. Emma denied watching the trial, yet Prior asked her if she remembered testimony from weeks back at the beginning of her testimony.
4. You can't have endless refills of antidepressants without seeing a dr.
5. People commonly get tired in their 40s+, and they don't die.
6. It's weird you'd go to the dr to get pain meds for your elbow, because you fell on ice, yet not go because you faint, have anemia, or have low blood pressure.
7. Emma was not credible at all. The possession story was bizarre. This whole family just seems more nutty the more we see of it.
8. Does Prior expect us all to believe the neighbors/friends, employees, law enforcement, medical professionals and everyone not on Chad's side is trying to frame him? That we are supposed to ignore his own texts and phone calls and listen to Emma? Lol
“Children of the Corn”😁
Excellent synopsis! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
#3! I caught that too!
They only need one juror to believe Chad's story. I don't think even 1 jury member believes the nonsense
For real!@@cathypotter7824
Tammy must’ve felt betrayed, incredibly hurt, then completely traumatised in the minutes of her death. Then her children coverup !
THEORY: Chad tells Tammy to go sleep in the Cozy as he is tired of not sleeping in his bed! (She won’t sleep with him because she knows he is having an affair!) She does that night and Alex comes in thru the CC door, smothers Tammy, they both move her to her bed and stage the scene waiting for Garth to come home. That could be another reason he told Emma to get rid of the mattress. Just a theory from an old woman crime watcher. Any ideas anyone?
I have suffered my whole life with anemia and am still alive and kicking at 63
Right and I'm anemic have been for over a decade and I'm still here...
Ditto
❤❤yes me too I'm 50 and got diagnosed at 9yrs old...still here and doing great 👍 thank God ❤️
Me too and I still work out at the gym. I even have essential oils on my dresser...it's amazing I'm still alive😂😂😂
I was donating blood once and was turned down due to iron deficiency (anemia), ate some of the right veggies, and was able to give blood next time. It was a quick fix without a doctor for me. Never had the problem again.
Those kids have really let their Mum down today! 😢
Emma is vulnerable to becoming like her dad, and with the same beliefs on the dark and light aspect, including her own family, a chilling thought as the young ones go through puberty.
She ALREADY IS …come ON🤦🏼♀️🙄🙄🙄
I found it especially interesting that Garth made a SPECIFIC reference about Tammy using BRUISE CREAM. Didnt mention any other "natural products" only the product the defense claims Tammy used often for her "chronic bruising".
Garth home at 1 am. Tammy was already dead in bed. Chad LYING BESIDE HIS DEAD WIFE. Chad acting snoring. SICK SICK SICK
That’s the first time I’ve heard him say Chad was snoring.
Who sleeps with their bedroom door right open?
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I do @@Brucebod
Exactly, and I've been hearing that Chad didn't sleep with Tammy, that's very confusing to me.
How do you go to bed between six and eight if you’re out clogging until 9 PM and when you do come home, you’re confronted by a nut job in the driveway with a gun pointed at you
Agree Prosecution didn't pick up on that contradiction. Would love to see the actual 5K sign up sheet as well.....
😂😂😂
@@ValeskaTruaxWe know old Joe M. would toss it if she did register.
@@catherinemcdavid1533 unfortunately I agree
Going home and going to bed may mean that you need alone time and you’ve found out about something awful like an affair… betrayal !
I caught the connection to Ballard! My jaw dropped as it did when Emma admitted to searching wind direction. My heart is sad and my stomach sick over today. Rest in Love Sweet Tammy.
I was struck how Garth, self-described introvert, quiet and mild-mannered, enjoyed putting on a costume and scaring people at a haunted house. Chilling, when you think of him as Chad's "mini-me," as Dr. John described him. Compare to mild-mannered, humble author Chad, who wouldn't kill anyone, vs. the patriarch, prophet, and translated being, who (allegedly) killed his wife, and may also have done terrible things to Tylee, and attacked her body violently with yard tools.
So I am just going to put it out here... Why would Emma need to use her families computer to check the wind direction? She is a teacher, and lives in her own house, and probably has her own smart phone, why not use her own computer???
GREAT POINT
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Chad asked her to. It was a set up that seems happy to be involved in.
She stated she did not have a smart phone at that time, but the points you make about computer at her home ....at her work... hopefully will be thought about by jurors.
@@mardyross2838I think Emma actually said she was late to getting a smart phone so it was easier for her to look on a computer. IMO she had a smart phone but it makes very little sense that she went next door to use her parents computer (she was a teacher at this time)!
You know it's interesting that chad was the head of the house but couldn't hold a job. He was committing adultery but still was able to be the spiritual leader. 🤢
I wanna know when Tammy's dead grandma is gonna talk to chad & tell him he's a snake?! How could these kids dishonor their mothers' memory? Thank you, Dr. John & Lauren❤❤
Emma was definitely on autopilot. How could she speak about her Mom in such a derogatory way? 🌺
I feel for Vicki, Samantha and all those who knew and loved Tammy, how dishonouring for Tammy, Sad day ❤
Emma also said that she didn’t know about Lori later until after her dad was arrested. While he is detained, she tells her dad,”Oh, I already have one of those set up because I talk to Lori.”
WTH?????
I'm guessing she bought her dad's story that they met shortly after both their spouses died, and didn't find out they had an affair while Tammy was alive. But she just accepted their quick marriage? Didnt question that?
Exactly that 🗑 lie the whole time 🤢
By then they were married nov-june. She claims to have not known of the affair
Emma was actually saying that she didn’t know that Chad cheated on her mom with Lori, not that she didn’t know about Lori.
When Emma was talking to chad in the police car, she knew that chad & Lori were married. Chad’s family/children had already gone on vacation with chad & Lori, after they were married
@@NunyaBeeswax-ck8ox I appreciate you explaining that to me. I was t aware of everything that you stated. Thank you for the info. 🙂
I feel so sorry for Tammy. Being married to Chad, and then having to deal with his clones. Thankfully, she had her family, good friends, her pets, and her games. She deserved so much more.
The way Emma said "she liked games," and the inflection was so passively judgemental. It stood out to me so much.. like I think she disagreed with some of her mom's lifestyle choices and it really came across in her testimony.
I don’t believe Tammy’s children turned on their mother until their dad told them to, after she died.
I want to believe that Tammy’s children were good to their mother when she was alive
@@NunyaBeeswax-ck8ox I don’t think Chad became a cult leader overnight. Chad didn’t like dogs - no dogs. Chad didn’t like Tammy playing games - no games while he was around, but the children could play? He ruled the roost with an iron fist, and children learn who the dominant parent is and will emulate him. The children saw this behavior their entire life, so they continue this behavior now. The manner in which Emma so gladly “threw her mother under the bus” demonstrated the control he has over them. Everyone around Tammy saw her as a loving, caring, healthy, friendly. Only Chad created the story of poor fat, unhealthy, at death’s door Tammy.
Soooo much more indeed
To Dr John: The wind direction was so that Chad could figure if the smell of burning flesh would reach a neighbor and make a nosey neighbor come and ask what he's doing. It's not about, can he start a fire or if he can bury Tylee's chopped up remains. He worried about the smell. People living nea a crematorium know exactly what that is. Since Chad had prior knowledge, he would be concerned about being discovered.
I think the jury is going to ,take Emma as a liar, and obviously covering up for Chad
Cross exam did great getting Emma to slip up saying "Of course he (Chad) was upset he saw (Tammy) die!" 😮
How did he see Tammy die, Emma? I thought she died while he slept!
She also wasn’t shocked or mortified that the kids were found in the backyard and is was ok moving there!?!
I could never! How can they sleep at night?!
Macabre
That’s so morbid. That house & yard is probably haunted! I couldn’t sleep there!
It’s mind blowing.
Truth- Chad didn’t like dogs b/c dogs didn’t like him. Dogs like many other animals sense malevolent people..! #DogsKnow
I'd say this is true about people who don't like cats. And a lot of dog lovers don't like cats.
That's the reason Lori got rid of JJs service dog so quickly imo
They do know these things. We have always had dogs. They can sense people with bad energy, bad intentions.
I love kitties, they have always gotten along with the dogs.
Absolutely agree on Emma using their computer. Between that, her absolute belief in possession, her not asking any questions as police were searching, her not asking how are bodies in your yard? What do you mean you’re not coming back? If she believes Lori put the bodies there, why doesn’t she mind that she is giving Lori money in jail? Why does she not ask any of that then or any time since in visits or in phone calls. If her mom died naturally, why would she refuse to speak to police or look at her mother’s autopsy?? None of that makes sense for an educated teacher who is mourning her mother’s loss. :’something is terribly amiss and I worry now that she knows more than o ever thought!
Did anyone note that Emma talked about working a fundraiser for OUR - Tim Balllard’s charity?
These kooks are all weirdly connected!
isn't Ballard on the outs with the Mormon church?
Emma and Garth sound like stepford children. They were clearly coached over the past few years. Thank you for breaking this down for us Dr. John.
I said this yesterday, programmed
Agree. So specific and exact as if they were already dialed in COACHED. It was bizarre. I don't believe a thing they said.
Yes. They were absolutely coached. Her testimony was overwhelming and overboard - she was bizarre, rehearsed and provided way too much detail for simple questions - don’t forget she also suddenly has memory loss when the prosecution crossed
I noticed Prior seemed to be trying to get Emma to cry when he’d ask if she was okay and take your time. Emma never cried.
Emma definitely either watched the trial or Prior coached her on exactly what to say. Emma spoke waaaay too much and in too much detail about the cozy cone ( how it was inconvenient to get to and the little electricity it had, etc.) She would never had known that anyone cared about it unless someone specifically told her what to talk about, since the stairs were never an issue until the recent testimony saying Chad told people different stories.
Her kids did not appreciate her sacrifices anymore than Chad did. Also, I retire to my bedroom early for time to myself. Emma came across as hateful towards her mother, that’s not doing her daddy any good. RIP Tammy, so much love for you from people who never knew you ❤
Daddy-Chaddy
Cult leader Chad
Agre she didn't do old Chad any good
Thinking of Aunt Vicky and sending her a big hug today 🫂 💖🙏
It was blatantly obvious Emma was lying. I don't think any of the witnesses so far have helped Chad. It makes it worse imo. I also bruise super easy which means if someone gripped my arm, their fingerprints would be on my arm... that didn't help either
I hope that the prosecution plays calls between Emma and Chad showing that Chad told Emma what to lie about on the stand.
Emma slammed law enforcement BUT she was telling Chad when he was in the police car arrested that “they” were so helpful and kind
I thought that was funny too.
So why didn’t the state ask about that?
And Garth accepted breakfast from McDonalds when they offered it to him.
@@janiceervin428They should have!
@@janiceervin428 She would have just said "Oh, I meant after that."
Did anyone watch the interview of Laura, juror #4 from Lori’s trial? She stated the prosecution has been laying out this trial better than hers.
Lauren,
Today was so heartbreaking. How can Tammy's children go on the stand and lie for their dad? I was so sad for Tammy I cried quite a bit. How can they stick up for that MONSTER? My heart hurts for Tammy. Shouldn't they get put in jail for perjury? It was only obvious. I thought Garth was so close to his mother.... I was hoping for Garth to side with his mom
Emma is definitely protecting her dad. She knows a lot more of what really happened to those children. The jury won't buy it though.
So her husband & children were all aware of these health problems, poor eating habits & lack of exercise but Garth is bringing her mcdonald's? Nobody's trying to get her to a doctor? Everyone is just like yeah mom's in poor health and going to die soon? Such a load of crap.
Right!!👊
I agree! I call bollocks on both Daybell kids testimony.
They all knew that she was most likely going thru menopause or peri menopause, and depressed about her cheating husband, which would have caused all of what they say she was going thru
And Chad let’s Tammy travel alone
I thought Emma was an excellent witness for the prosecution. Hopefully the jury realizes that if chad could convince his children to turn against their sweet loving deceased mother, he could certainly convince people to murder
Kieth Morrison once asked Who was driving the bus during all this, Chad was in the driver seat, but Lori had her hands on the steering wheel
Introverts have friends! They tend to have a few amount of friends, but they are good quality friendships!
Tammy went through all the never-ending work that was her life, yet she was overweight, unfriendly, and out-of-shape. Geez, who needs enemies when you have a daughter like Emma! 😭😭😭
Oh, and about "googling the wind direction":
Well, yeah. The entire reason why it was significant that ANYONE would google the wind direction the day before cremating their loved one in a fire pit, is so that burning human flesh wouldn't be blowing on the neighbors... (which might incriminate them)
As an introvert, I agree with you. We find people tiring. We aren't psychopaths.
Straight up a about the wind direction. I m pretty sure Alex cox googled wind direction
I agree with you about being an introvert and that we keep a couple friends very close. But everything we’ve heard about Tammy is that she was very outgoing and talkative with EVERYONE. She wasn’t an introvert… she was STALKED by her husband through her family (mainly Emma) so I could see her going home and wanting to shut herself in her room just to get away from Emma and have some alone time.
Chad didn't let Tammy get close friends.
Honestly about the Knox Berry Vacation and the $8,000, they should have asked how she felt spending her mom's blood money and knowing Lori and her father were spending not only her mom's blood money but blood money for the two dead children buried in her father's back yard. And how does she feel when her own children play in the yard where two dead children's remains were found, do they build cozy fires in the fire pit where they chopped, hacked and burned a 16 year old girl? Or maybe she is okay with it because of her shared belief with her father. SURE, that's how you show love and respect for your mom. He was dancing on a beach getting married 10 days after they buried her loving mom, knowing there were two dead children buried in his backyard? Disgusting and Shameful! 😢
Their ability & willingness to do these things makes them look less than human. Who does that? Possessed zombies?
I've felt all along that she's in it for the money. She liked the windfall from Tammy. She will write a book & earn some money. She's globally disliked & karma will come for her. She shouldn't be teaching children.
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I think she helped them. She knew where those kids were.
Couldn’t have said it better myself ❤
Lauren having to take a moment to grab her charger from her “portal.”
Omg.
TOO FUNNY.
The Daybell kids appear to be disrespecting their mom quite a bit and are devoid of grief or emotion for Tammy.
Garth never mentioned Tammy was throwing up. His room is right across from Tammy. He was awake playing games and all was quiet. Then Chad woke him up asking for help. Garth comes in and single handedly lifts his cold, stiff, gray mother back into the bed. Chad is bigger and stronger than Garth. Exactly what did Chad need help with? Chad needed a witness then he told Garth the story.
My daughter had a Fitbit. She cheated that way to round up her numbers because she suffers from OCD and the numbers have to be even.
Thank you! I kept waiting for the question about Tammy throwing up.
Chad was exhausted from dragging Tammy from somewhere.
I think so that his dna would be on Tammy too. That’s my speculation. And that he could be his “witness” that his mother was “halfway on and off the bed” -that way Garth could be his witness to what happened.
She was probably killed while Garth wasn’t there. The thud was Chad pushing her out of bed.
I believe there are 2 reasons that all of Chad’s kids are still alive: (1) They were grown & (2) They had no monetary value. That’s it-no more & no less.
Plus Chad & Lori were arrested and Alex Cox died before they got to the daybell children
They were obedient mini-me s. Constantly flattering Chad's ego.
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Thank you Laren & Dr. John for explaining what is happening 😮
Also, Emma thought, and was trying to give the impression, she knew her mom and she even stated the life insurance was for both of them when in fact it wasn’t and it proved she in fact didn’t know everything.
I’m appalled by Emma and have little hope for the other Daybell children. Poor Tammy.
Emma said she had something dark on her, and it was anxiety, so her dad laid hands on her to rid her of the anxiety. My question is, why did tammy take prescription prozac and not have Chad lay hands on her to heal her depression?
I bet Chad didn’t know she took it
Ahh, good point!
Thank you Dr. J for pointing out the bizarre perseveration on raccoons! I have no doubt that raccoons exist in Idaho. I fail to comprehend how that mitigates finding bodies in anyone’s backyard!
The hand pose Chad had today was the same as when Tylee's remains were being discussed. When he hugs his elbows it's self-soothing. It's an anxiety marker.
I was thinking he was self-soothing. Interesting.
Grabbing your charger in your portal (closet) is my favorite comment of the night. We don’t deserve Lauren. 🥰🥰🥰
I KNOW! 😮
I feel a deep sadness for Emma. She’s completely controlled by her father. I hope that one day she regrets her betrayal of her precious mama. Poor Tammy. 😢She was married to a monster.
Don’t …she MADE HER CHOICE…I feel bad for the KIDS ….they never had a CHANCE TO CHOOSE
I came here to say that Tammi isn't innocent in all these bizarre beliefs. I'm glad to finally see another commenter with the same thoughts as me. Almost nobody ever mentions this. Tammi and Chad were both equally to blame for their children's twisted beliefs.
She was raised under severe coercive control, but ppl don’t like to think it could happen to them, so they demonize Emma instead of offering a modicum of empathy.
Frankly, I think Tammy would be greatly saddened at the way her children are being vilified.
Chad was looking to get rid of tammy BEFORE lori came into his life for the life insurance but lori messed with his head and his schedule?