I’m surprised that Chad is such a horrible speaker. I expected him to be confident, organized, and polished. He was none of those things. He sounded like a 3rd grader giving a book report.
He is just rambling... all of his books are fiction. He somehow twisted his own imagination into some sort of true belief. I am not making light of mental health issues but he is clearly delusional.
I think his clumsy and goofy nature is what makes him seem well meaning. I think it could hide his cult leader motivations with a blanket of “I am doing the best I can as a mere mortal given special gifts”
This' makes me feel even more strongly that Chad's kids are part of his cult and brainwashed to believe their dad. They know what had gone on but they feel their dad is justified because he is special and called to do the things he has done. I think they feel that he is being persecuted by LE because he is the chosen one.
I have thought this from the beginning. That’s probably why they told authorities no autopsy for Tammy and why no attempt was ever made on their lives. They somehow remain Zombie free 🤷🏼♀️
Naw... no way they know anything. He hid Lori from them for sure. He's only gone off the total deep end since Lori! Alex killed the kids but dumbass told him to bury them there.. What an idiot! Lust did crazy things to his brain. Visions of granduer as he and Lori led the 144K into a new millennium!! 😬
Lol he can see way ahead so there must not be any there or Alex would have gunned them down I’m sure there is more room for burying them in his yard sad but that’s their reality
I've read Chad's books. Happened on a large collection of them at a local thrift store soon after the case hit the news. (That's the only way I would have ever bought them.) I didn't read them until a couple of months ago. This talk confirms what I felt while reading his books: he was (is?) convinced that his books were accurate portrayals of future events...starring his children. By the way, the books were better written than I expected. Not to say they are good - just better than I would have guessed Chad was capable of producing. Having said that, his storytelling is very juvenile. There are huge gaps in logic and almost no character development. I have to laugh hearing him say the stories came to him in visions from Heavenly Father. I would think any self-respecting deity would have selected a more accomplished writer... No mention of multiple probations or zombies - he obviously wrote the books before he, Julie Rowe and Eric Smith came up with those "doctrines".
Thanks much for your synopsis. I don't think I'll read the books, but interesting to hear they're not actually horribly written. Interesting how many people assume Chad is some sort of stupid, psychopath, caveman. We need to remember that anybody/everybody is capable of going down an evil pathway in life
Remember Chads wife Tammy worked in the school library & most likely helped him with correcting his writing. He also mentioned someone else who helped him.
I think his zombie doctrine was reserved for his inner circle and multiple probations for smaller groups he met in people's homes, but not for conferences where he could be recorded and reported to the church authorities for his fringe beliefs.
You did an amazing job putting this together, Lauren! I couldn't have listened to this ridiculous speech without the visuals you added. We appreciate you and Dr. John and all of your hard work.
Yeah, I thought he supposedly died and had an nde. He just passed out for a few seconds, if that’s even true. I wonder if his family could back up the wave story.
OMG this was SOOO hard to get through!! He is so, so, so boring! It's disgusting that he made all this crap up and people believe he was inspired & directed by God himself. His blubbering made me feel physically sick. I appreciate you posting it because it is so relevant to the case but listening to him was torture.. :(
@Loretta Lee..OMG..I'm laughing so hard I'm wheezing!! Thank you for the much needed comic relief during this mind numbing crap!(I'm only listening because I love Lauren and John)!
Not a comment about this video but wanted to get this off my mind ..Lori Vallow's sister was a type 1 diabetic who took insulin. Insulin is something the pancreas makes in healthy individuals. Too much insulin causes shock and if untreated, death. As a nurse, when I did diabetic education with a patient... I wanted their family there too. It's not a leap to think Lori knew about insulin's toxicity and assumed it would not show up on autopsy since it's naturally occurring. Even if not to kill but at least to incapacitate. Just a thought I can't get off my mind...
A lot of killer nurses use this method too. I have no experience of diabetes and know of this and I'm sure Lori's sister wouldn't notice a bit missing. I'm terrible at keeping track of my heart meds.
I have the same opinion. As soon as I learned about Lori's sisters manner of death I thought she was poisoned. And also I think her husband before Charles was murdered and then there's Charles. Lock her up and throw away the key! My grandma's saying...
Chad is not easy for me to listen to but Im going to give it a try. I hope his own words will help convict him of murder of Tammy, Tylee, JJ, and possibly Charles.
When I listen to Chad speak, 1) I hear someone who wants to sell his books, 2) And someone who says words and throws out ideas until he gets the response he wants from his audience. I'm more of a cynic. I don't hear Chad believing what he says per se. I hear him "selling" the New Jerusalem to gain an audience or following. I was brought up in a family in which I had some really charming uncles. One in particular could sell snow to the snowbound. I could trust him as far as i could throw him. He was an amazing con really. This is what I hear in Chad. He's selling what a group of people want to hear, and they're buying. P.S. Makes me a bit nostalgic really. Listening to him as a kid was enlightening. I learned not to trust without question those who are too charming, and not to trust mob mentality.
I have had accidents in my life that had they gone the other way, I would have been dead. I have even had a brain aneurysm, and was out of the hospital 8 days later after my mother was told I probably wouldn’t make it through the night. My point is that I feel blessed, and yes I have endured near death experiences, but to embellish bad decisions like jumping from a cliff and belly flopping because you didn’t have a clue as to the correct way to dive, or calling the natural wave in California (I am from Ca.) A rogue wave because you were inexperienced is really Not a reason to call it what he calls it. He is delusional
You hit it exactly on the head, his ego and self opinion has been his drive to cover up his insecurities and inadequacies and he is so immature in his thinking that he rewrote his embarrassment and dumb choices to put a positive and prophetic spin on them, making it spiritual and tapping into the willingness to exploit parishioners, rather than to grow from life experiences and become a man. What a baby he is, but an evil, scheming, sadistic one at that!
One thing that struck me about this “family” of like minds, is when the children ( I think the two sitting in the front in the 48 hours interview), when chad’s son was giving the description of when he found his mom had passed, what his dad was saying and doing. The description of him “ pointing to her picture as he paces”, saying “she can’t be gone”…. was so eerie to me. I was present when my mother’s spirit left her body, she layed her head on my dad as he was singing to her, and it was as if I felt as though her spirit went right through my dad as it left her body. I didn’t see it, it was just because of the reaction as my dad knew at the very moment. I know not all people react the same, but it just seemed a strange thing not to want to hold her, or look at her, say her name. Chad just paced and pointed at her picture! That image is hard to imagine, compared to how my dad reacted to his wife of 40+ years, who he loved dearly. The daughter had said something about being her fathers voice. She has convinced herself that she has to be vigilant in proclaiming her dads innocent, so she will disregard any and all evidence that says otherwise. my Mother has been gone for 6 years, and I still show more emotion when I think of her that her children or husband have shown! Poor children. They have known only Chad and Tammy’s reality of the world. Breaks my heart. I pray that the Lord can help them to heal, and see the truth. I am not judging their family. Just comparing. Maybe I shouldn’t do that either. We grew up a pretty enmeshed family. Our mom was the one who kept us close. Once she passed, we were able to become adults and finish breaking that final hold she had on being dominant in our lives. My mother was a wonderful mother, but she had issues with letting her children go as adults and tried hard to keep tight reigns on us. There is hope for these children to discover who they are, as independent adults. They can still live lives full of joy, but nothing can fix them until they face the reality of this situation they are in.
How did you get a hold of this? I’m impressed. I heard from a friend that Chad came off as very humble. I can see that because he is kind of awkward and has a soft voice. However, if you just listen to what he saying, it is deeply concerning how he claims these so-called prophecies are because the Lord sent him these crazy revelations. I can see why some people fell for him. It scares me how he comes across so humble. But what he says is terrible. Untrue. His political viewpoints made me grit my teeth. The fact he is crying shows how touched he is by his own visions. He is disgrace to my beautiful town of Rexburg. Where has critical thinking skills gone too? This is so depressing.
Thank you for this comment. Very well said. Rexburg is a very beautiful town. I used to report there. The source who trusted us with this recording requests to be anonymous.
Do you recall when the Judge sentenced Lori Daybell to 3 consecutive life sentences, he made it a point to stress that she "came here" to do these crimes, that she was an outsider that brought heinous criminality to a formerly law-abiding town. I can't help but think that he wanted to send a message to any other outsiders, which is: if you're going to perpetrate, this is what awaits you. . I feel the same way about the Hawaiian judge who set her bail at $5MM. Lori couldn't just keep her evil criminality in her own back yard, she had to flaunt it and spread it around in her White Trashy Barbie way.
Embarrassing that anyone believed his blatantly juvenile nonsensical "NDE"s. If I'd been in the audience I honestly think I would have turned to the person next to me and said, "But wait.... he thinks he died?! I'm not sure he knows what that word means...." And just the talk about his books it's so apparent that this is just some teenage-level end-times fanfiction...... I'm mortified that anyone listening thought this was even interesting, much less real. 🤦🏻♀️
Did people actually pay real money to hear Chad's insane talks and buy his books? I'm not so sure I can agree when people say Chad believes he has visions and NDEs. How does someone who claims that God is everything have multiple affairs with so many women (or try to)? He claims to have met Jesus (blond hair and blue eyes), none of it makes any sense! If Chad walked a straight line; no women, no cheating, no lying, no murders, etc., then I might think he believes his own stories are real! There's no way he wouldn't want to live a honest life, he wouldn't dare commit murders, the list goes on. Chad knows he's a liar!
Hey Chad....i talked to the Devil.....he said your ghost Aint got S__t on him......hes looking foward to recieving your soul.....allready broken...your getting eternal Hell.
I was surprised that none of his NDE’s actually involved actual real near death. To me he’s describing out of body experiences , not near death. I spent a year in hospital and my family was called in3 times as I was about to die and my surgeon twice asked if I wanted to stop treatment and be put on comfort care and die in 3-4 days. It’s 11 years later . I told the doctor I’d go ahead and try to live and if I did and was in too much pain I could kill myself then. He seemed shocked while all the while he was suggesting I do exactly that 11years ago. I suffered delusions - who knew I could write NDE books and people might buy them ? Always something to look forward to .
I agree with the out of body experience. Once my brother was in ICU, and we had met many family members during that two weeks. One young girl who had been in a car accident, her mother wanted me and my mom to go to a room and talk with her. The young girl was broken up and in traction. She told us that her body went through the windshield and flew about 200 yards onto a walkway of a house ( close to their porch). She said her spirit was above her body and she watched it slam into the ground. She didn’t know what to think about it and so me and my mom told her that most likely her spirit was a safety mechanism so she wouldn’t feel the pain as her body was broken up. She said she had never felt pain until waking up a week later( the trauma team of doctors had kept her in a chemically induced coma, while multiple surgeries were performed. Chad had out of body experience when that wave crashed against his body. I believe this because of my experiences with my brother and several in ICU/ Trauma center I was allowed to speak to and hear their stories. We prayed for all who were in the trauma unit and many family members approached us to keep praying for them. God answers prayers. All who asked, their family members eventually went home. A few who didn’t join us in praying, their family members passed away within a day or two of our first few days up there. I had always felt God led us that way to help show love and compassion to many people who were suffering traumatic accidents with their loved ones. When we arrived, we had no room in the trauma/ ICU waiting room to sit, and my dad stretched out on the floor and slept the first two nights. They said they had never had that many ICU/ Trauma patients at that hospital at one time. I do believe God has a purpose, and He can use us. But we usually don’t know when where and what it is until it is all done. We really didn’t know all that would happen, until it was all over!
Grew up in SF Bay Area, went to BYU-I, and now back in the Bay Area. What blows me away the most about this is how *normal* this all sounds. I've heard routines like this a million times. Stories of end times (though not as severe as Chad's descriptions) from my Nana, to the constant comments about California residents not being righteous/getting destroyed, etc. (and the associated chuckles from the crowd). Obviously Chad is very acutely evil; however, it's easy to see how this line of thinking could get a number of my fellow Ward members to go "off the rails". Eye opening stuff.
Agreed. I don't think most members would prescribe to mild versions of this, but I can definitely see some members I know some falling for stuff like this. I had a seminary teacher who believed a lot of obscure "doctrine" and talked about the end of times in strange ways (different than how I learned at church for sure). I always think about him when I hear stuff like this 😬
I can't help but think these people must have lived extremely boring lives to be chuckling at his stories. Also lots of time on their hands to be so obsessed with end of times.... And if they're paying to hear him speak... Can't even fathom!
How could anyone be inspired or charmed by this guy. He couldn't lead someone across the the street let alone to be in his "army" against the coalition!!! His presentation was weak, rambling, incoherent drivel. He would be a star in an asylum. Cray, cray talk like in One Flew Over the Cukoo's Nest.
There are quite a few well known politicians right now who are thriving because they don’t indulge in critical thinking, and they too are following a Devine plan
I think it might be because we already know so much. We couldn't enjoy or believe him if we tried now....but before we knew his deeds? maybe? Who knows, but I can definitely see how even the slightest info about Chad can make him unappealing as an "inspired speaker
I learned so very much from Anna. So much of these senseless murders, Charles when no would listen, Tylee the beautiful teenage girl who knew too much, JJ a beautiful child with special needs, and Tammy the inconvenient first wife. She helped me understand how this came to be and if I ever encounter these evil cults, to speak up, loudly and clearly to disavow the same and to have compassion for the errant followers. Thank you so much. You are a remarkable person who rose above so very much!
Can't wait for this! At 6:30 PST, Sat. night, HTC RUclips. The questions and answers tonight on the Live Chat were awesome! Lauren & The Good Lori were fantastic! Thank you both!
He certainly has no charisma whatsoever. I thought cult leaders were supposed to have charisma in order for people to follow them. If you want an example of a cult leader with charisma have a look at David Koresh, the leader at Waco.
I wish this recording was in written form - between his mumbling, monotone voice and speaking of things I don't know about I am lost. Is this blog you are talking about this speech?
Yeah Chad, that “orange glow” you speak of, that’s a premonition of your future jumpsuit. The next time you jump off something, it’ll either be your bunk or your bunkie. Have fun with that!
I think there can be little doubt Chad sincerely believes everything he’s saying. But I think he’s also convinced himself that every little thought that pops into his head is inspired revelation. My sense is that he’s gullible that way, suggestible even, and given to flights of fancy and invention. God doesn’t pour inspiration out like candy. I think anybody who’s prayed for understanding or guidance knows how much work goes in to receiving that kind of help. I see no hint here of those strange beliefs he later seemed to have concerning zombies, pendulums, and dark or light spirits. Nor of his belief that he is the “leader of the 144,000”. I don’t see the arrogance he later displays.
Being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Chad (and Lori) knew they were straying far away from LDS doctrine...and EVERY SINGLE LDS member knows they cannot do that and remain a member!! THEY ARE EXCOMMUNICATED....IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME!!! AND THEY DID NOT GET SEALED IN THE TEMPLE, BY JASON MOW, OR ANYONE ELSE!! THEY ARE LYING.....WHAT GOOD COULD BE ACHIEVED BY THEM? SAYING IT DOESN'T MAKE IT TRUTH!!! WHAT DID THEY ACHIEVE??? WHY??? THIS BOGGLES MY MIND!!!
@@kathelessley4813 I was told by a temple worker that the reason they have so many people standing at the various doorways and along corridors is partly to keep unauthorized folks (like Jason Mow) from sneaking into sealing rooms like he did with Chad and Lori.
@@DragonHeartTree I have a very hard time believing that any temple going members would even try to go anywhere they know they are not supposed to... They were not sealed, married, sanctioned by the LDS Church in any way...it's a total lie....and THEY KNOW IT IS!!
Well I for one, VERY MUCH DOUBT that Chad actually believes what he's saying. At the end of the day, you might be able to fool other people, but you can't fool yourself, because the reality is, you KNOW when you've made bs up!
I am at 30:10. He is talking about fictional books and characters that HE created but talking about them as if they are real, contemporary humans..? Am I hearing this correctly?
Great show and chat last night! Looking forward to hearing him speak. So, let me see if I got this correct…..he speaks/she is there to hear him. She introduces herself. Somehow they discussed her kids (maybe even Charles?). Four days later (any in person or online communication in there?) he lets her know that her daughter is dark. That escalated quickly.
I think they met on preparing the people website or anyone of those related forums, they may have taken it private for a few years. Then they meet face to face after emailing for a few years. Who would make such a big scene of a author you enjoy reading ? She was jumping around like a groupie. Then MG walked away & Lori was talking to Chad the rest of the weekend conference. Before this meeting Chad had told Mel she was a gatherer.
Lori has a distinctive pitch of laughter, you can hear her enthralled and laughing at every opportunity, she was truly engaged by him It seems to me that the draw for her was she wanted to re-write her own story and was willing to do anything to make the fantasy of “importance” and being a central leading character in her own story over-rode any maternal instincts she ever had It’s enormously sad that she chose this path and discarded Charles who obviously adored her, it’s enormously sad Chad also threw his wife’s life away with his own future…all in the name of a “fantasy of self importance” Healing and peace to all who have had their lives disrupted, endangered or obliterated by this delusional egomaniacal couple, may they live out their days deprived of light love and liberty but most importantly deprived of each other which to them, I believe is the ultimate punishment In eternal memory of Joe Ryan, Tylee Ryan, Charles Vallow, JJ Vallow, Tammy Douglas (Daybell) and the countless nameless victims who have suffered at the hands of Lori and Chad Daybell…may their victims and their families find peace 🤍
Didn’t Zulema claim to be able to start earth quakes and volcanoes? How convenient for Chad to have a follower that has the ability to make his predictions come true!
@@HiddenTrueCrime a whole year later and I can’t echo this enough! Visual learner to visual learner, I thank you!! :)❤ incredible to think where we’re at today and thank you for your day to day coverage there at the trial.
Sorry for all these comments but he has one of the weakest speaking voices I have ever heard. How is he charismatic enough to make people believe in his zombie shenanigans?
He started in his mind already offing her kids so he could have her all to himself. He didn't want the baggage of her kids and he knew Tylee would of gave him problems.
The scary thing is that in the LDS culture, there are probably 10 "Chad and Lori" type wacko's waiting for their 5 minutes of "look at me, God thinks I'm special" fame. It honestly makes me want to puke just hearing his milk-toast voice. ..🤢
The whole LDS church is based on lies. This is what they are taught from birth and they believe this junk. Go Google "Facts the Mormon Church doesn't want you to know"! Tells you exactly who this cult is and why their nonsense and lies don't go with the Christian Bible believing church! They are off scripturally completely .
I enjoyed the comments and presentation/ editing from you, Lauren( otherwise I'd have never muddled through Chad's speech). This was great from Stephanie Budge: " these people need to get out more" 😂 Truth.
Alright, my 1st Chad Daybell video watching him speak! Thanks a bunch for this bit of information on this “self made profit”. Ready to take a goo🧐 ! Love your channel ❤️
Oh my goodness, yes I can imagine.. I am an Idaho girl and 2 minutes in I wanted to fall asleep. I’ve grown up around people in the LDS church and this guy is just bogus!
Don't hate on the kids. It's not fair. Just wait until they figure out their dad killed their mom. It's not going to be easy for them. Have some empathy.
@@annwood6812 Sorry if it sounded like I hate the "children", I don't. Actually, I feel sorry for them. Clearly, they r a product of their environment and upbringing (aren't we all), however, I do find it hard to understand their apparent lack of empathy towards their mother. Baffling.
Hi Lauren and Dr John. The presentation by Chad was like listening to a Dullard. He's a talking POTATO. I have a Question. What do you think they are doing in the Mental Hospital for Lori? It's fasinating to me just how competent she is in the world to accomplish her evil behaviours and manipulations. What kind of treatments do you think they would use to make her competent for trial? Thank you so much for all that you do Lauren. I love your Sensibilities. Good being here with you both and look forward to more.
I'd like to know how Lori is able to remain at the mental health facility. We know she's an evil murderer but does that mean she's not capable to stand trial or understand questions? Does choosing evil over good mean she's mentally unstable? We can all agree that she's "crazy" for killing her own children and spouses, "crazy" for her ways. IMO, she made a great life for herself that she didn't want or appreciate; she was capable of becoming a hairdresser, a wife (a few too many times)! becoming a mother, capable of reciting the book of mormon and retaining information/scriptures. She chose to "twist" the words to satisfy herself, her evil thoughts, her craving to feel special. I don't believe that (for almost 50 yrs) her personality changed overnight. She may have never felt happy but she managed to create a life many of us would love. Only she didn't want it, her beautiful children got in her way, cost money she wanted all to herself (they paid their own way & supported her)! She planned her life her way, she was able to control her husbands, money, friends, family; nothing was ever enough. She was able to manipulate people and cater to her every need! This doesn't mean she's "crazy", her sense of entitlement and selfishness doesn't mean she's can't understand. This is not about right or wrong answers, it's about the truth. Lori is experienced and understands a court process, this isn't her first rodeo! She knew enough to "claim" she's "mentally unstable". Her whole life before this wouldn't have been so great had she been "crazy"! Yes, she's crazy for her well planned choices, her personal thoughts but not "crazy" for prosecutors to believe.
Being restored to competency, though, is not about debunking her brain of her religious beliefs, it’s about helping her understand the legal process she will go to court and face. I worked as an RN on a unit in a psych hospital that had a sole goal of restoring competency. It’s not about her religious beliefs it’s about her understanding her upcoming legal battles. I had many patients who were able to be restored to competency but who remained “mentally ill” but they were able to understand the legal process. At this point, Lori may very well have some deeply entrenched fixed delusions that will never be changed but they may or may not impede her ability to understand her legal problems. In my state we DO have the “guilty except for insanity” plea and it’s not as easy to obtain as many people think. It’s my understanding that Idaho does not have this particular plea. If she can never be restored, I don’t know where they go from there from a legal standpoint.
@@kavitadeva Sorry, I misunderstood. In my unit all it took was to pass a psych evaluation performed by a psychologist or psychiatrist that proved she understood her charges, knew what sentence she might receive(ie…Felony A in my state is at least 20 yrs minimum, and so on), she must have an understanding of basic legal terminology that might be used in trial, understand the role of an attorney, judge and jury and similar issues. We did not discuss their legal case with them while assisting them to learn their legal skills except to question them if they knew why and what they were charged with. This is a somewhat simplistic explantation and I’m probably leaving some stuff out and it is also based on my state. It can take many months for some people and sometimes some patients were found NEVER competent meaning that due to mental illness, they will never be able to understand what is going on. Also in my state, in order to be found “guilty except for insanity” it must be proven that the person was mentally ill at the time of the crime and that the mental illness was a precipitating factor for the commission of said crime. Many people are hyper-religious and never cause harm, I will be interested to see how the results play out in light of her obvious religious beliefs which may in fact be fixed delusions that might never go away, even with meds. However, I do believe she could be quite capable of learning her legal skills and remain quite mentally ill, if in fact she really is. I have seen this numerous times and I have also met my share of Malingerers. I wish I knew more about how the system in Idaho works, it would be interesting. Maybe someone who knows will comment if it is similar. The subject fascinates me!
@@wehvgirlpwr hi there. Your comments are very thought provoking. I think she's is very aware of what it means to be competent for trial. Lori is a Master MANIPULATOR. Fully capable but acting incompetent. Have a great day.
Interesting. He’s almost charming when he’s in his element. I couldn’t see the draw before now. I mean I still don’t REALLY see it, but I can understand it better.
I think Lori was looking for a cult leader like Chad. By the time she met him I think she was delusional. And she was in search of an easier life, with money and no kids.
Rebecca have you heard of a self-proclaimed prophet called Tracey Cooke? He is another very softly spoken man who is a lot more fascinating than Chad Daybell.
Telling us he sees Obama att the "Coalition of the brothers" that pretty much sealed it for me.(not that I didn't figure that out with the Zombie Murder Marathon) he is BATSHYTE CRAZY!!!
6:11 "My friends loved to talk me into doing stupid things... They could goad me into something that I shouldn't do... gotta impress my peers!" That actually says a LOT. That's the moment Lori's ears perked up. She knew he was easily manipulated and she could work him over.
There was some books written by a Baptist minister and a fiction writer called LEFT BEHIND and they did 2 movies with Nicholas cage and Kirk Cameron. I was surprised Nic Cage did that, it’s all about the rapture and the end of the world, and 2nd coming, and I read many many of them and saw the movies, although I can’t remember the Kirk Cameron movies as well. The books were well written and did very well. And were way ahead of daybelle’s idea to write books set in modern times, about the end of the world, except he used Mormon scripture, and his crazy fiction. I never fell down the rabbit hole reading those books, I did it for distraction and because I was in bed a lot because I was dealing with a lot of pain. So that helped me distract myself. I met the pastor and he really liked me. He was at this church for a couple of days so me and ma maman went to hear him. His name was Tim Le Haye. But like I said I never went down the rabbit hole reading them. They used the premise that one will be in the field beside another and be taken so you had people on a plane just disappear and all that was left was the clothing. And of course people are freaking out and then the pilot remembers what his wife was learning in church and how she invited him to come, now she’s gone, and their young son and the daughter and he who didn’t believe are “left behind”. He was tempted to have an affair with a co worker but did not act on it but almost did, and then afterwards becomes a pivotal character in the book along with his daughter and her boyfriend a journalist she meets after the people disappear.
His son said during that interview that he heard a thump I think he choked her or something and dropped her and she didn't land fully on the bed hence the thump. Who is he to say kylee was was a dark soul. Please bring up that list during trial.
I love your content! John too :) Wow what a boring speaker I nearly fell asleep. I listened to your interview with girl on fire last night and the hypnosis. The way he speaks is pretty much hypnotizing. My brother was a hypnotist he performed in Vegas. It's the calm voice putting you pretty much to sleep. Chad is the worst, for Lori I do not believe it was for the money. I think she whole heartedly believed him. I did perk up when he said Trump was a miracle . Thanks so much fr your hard work
How utterly....boring!! I am having a hard time figuring out why people are laughing. But because I like this channel, I will get through his monotone, pathetic, and uncharismatic talk.
What is so sick is everyone in that room is eagerly awaiting this tribulation time. So sure they will be victorious. Reminds me of the film Gone with the Wind when the southerners at the table were eager for war so sure they would be triumphant. Never considering the death and destruction they were courting.
Chads reading of his book actually cured my of my constipation. Thank you so much chad for helping me stay regular. Im taking some amazing dumps now, thanks to you, your book, and your speaking. Well I wish I could write more but I have to take a massive dump
Chad, tho monotone, comes off as genuine, humorous, humble. I can understand how folks who are searching in this direction might give him and his message consideration.
It's been brought up on some of your videos whether Tammy knew about Chad and Lori and Chad and other affairs. I can just imagine how much he must have changed as a husband once his books became popular, then he had a lot of followers/admirers while at the same time changing his total belief system within a matter of five years or less. He must have become like a stranger to her. It's too bad she couldn't have left and saved herself.
@@househen1 I heard on Reddit he was telling all these women including Melanie Gibb and Julie Rowe they were his wives in another time just like the fantasy stuff he would tell Lori and that Melanie’s ex husband told him to quit talking to her! I always thought that is why he said sweet Melanie to her on that phone call.
I heard that in his childhood he killed many bee insects on one ocasion of distress, also, his parents kind of neglecting him and his siblings, so the psicopathy was probably there but wasn't triggered before he met Lori
He was killing before Lori. He told many people that Tammy was having a car accident soon. So he definitely had already started wanting out and wanting that life insurance.
How he managed to recapture anyone is inconceivable because it is not merely that he has a voice that drones on its tone is unpleasing . Have wondered listening to him in the brief speech situations available _& in those thought may be it was deliberate in order to make the public feel.he is innocuous bit this is a completely different situatiin Having a fair understanding of " hypnotic " indoctrination am.attempting to hear this in his speech but cannot discover it . Such a harsh intonation. , A truly unpleasent voice that equals how he appears in.personality bidy language . NOTHING pulls me in & am susceptible to both aspects if people fromy Father to My late Husband ,& several.public figures I have never met .
Lauren, in the captions when Chad talks about his NDE at La Jolla, he says his grandfather was … Daybell that captioned as “davil” and his great grandfather was … Daybell that captioned as “infinity devil”. Too scary for me. Time for me to pull back on the Daybell wickedness.
Interesting comment he made that those who believe this will become leaders. That's got to appeal to certain people in this audience. Its helpful to understand how people could throw away all critical thinking.
I’m surprised that Chad is such a horrible speaker. I expected him to be confident, organized, and polished. He was none of those things. He sounded like a 3rd grader giving a book report.
He is just rambling... all of his books are fiction. He somehow twisted his own imagination into some sort of true belief. I am not making light of mental health issues but he is clearly delusional.
I agree
People can relate to that. He's just a regular guy.
I think his clumsy and goofy nature is what makes him seem well meaning. I think it could hide his cult leader motivations with a blanket of “I am doing the best I can as a mere mortal given special gifts”
Or a typical mormon baring his "testimony".
This' makes me feel even more strongly that Chad's kids are part of his cult and brainwashed to believe their dad. They know what had gone on but they feel their dad is justified because he is special and called to do the things he has done. I think they feel that he is being persecuted by LE because he is the chosen one.
I agree
Definitely a real possibility!
I have thought this from the beginning. That’s probably why they told authorities no autopsy for Tammy and why no attempt was ever made on their lives. They somehow remain Zombie free 🤷🏼♀️
I wonder if he really loves them or just uses them as pawns in his sick game.
Naw... no way they know anything. He hid Lori from them for sure. He's only gone off the total deep end since Lori!
Alex killed the kids but dumbass told him to bury them there..
What an idiot! Lust did crazy things to his brain. Visions of granduer as he and Lori led the 144K into a new millennium!! 😬
He’s more batshit crazy than I expected. He forgot to do the roll call for the zombies.
Lol he can see way ahead so there must not be any there or Alex would have gunned them down I’m sure there is more room for burying them in his yard sad but that’s their reality
True aye
I've read Chad's books. Happened on a large collection of them at a local thrift store soon after the case hit the news. (That's the only way I would have ever bought them.) I didn't read them until a couple of months ago.
This talk confirms what I felt while reading his books: he was (is?) convinced that his books were accurate portrayals of future events...starring his children.
By the way, the books were better written than I expected. Not to say they are good - just better than I would have guessed Chad was capable of producing. Having said that, his storytelling is very juvenile. There are huge gaps in logic and almost no character development. I have to laugh hearing him say the stories came to him in visions from Heavenly Father. I would think any self-respecting deity would have selected a more accomplished writer...
No mention of multiple probations or zombies - he obviously wrote the books before he, Julie Rowe and Eric Smith came up with those "doctrines".
Thanks much for your synopsis. I don't think I'll read the books, but interesting to hear they're not actually horribly written. Interesting how many people assume Chad is some sort of stupid, psychopath, caveman. We need to remember that anybody/everybody is capable of going down an evil pathway in life
Remember Chads wife Tammy worked in the school library & most likely helped him with correcting his writing. He also mentioned someone else who helped him.
@@blazefairchild465 I almost added that I figured Tammy's editing helped his writing immeasurably...
I think his zombie doctrine was reserved for his inner circle and multiple probations for smaller groups he met in people's homes, but not for conferences where he could be recorded and reported to the church authorities for his fringe beliefs.
@@indicolite3355 excellent point. Of course you're right.
I honestly can’t listen without my eyes glazing over and my brain starting a grocery list (over and over).
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Me too !
That’s how all the LDS talk. I’ve known quite a few. I swear, it’s like they try to mimic Warren Jeffs. I think it’s a brainwashing technique.
Yeah….I had to try to listen to this three time, kept falling asleep
Yes, he is a ball of fire aint he?!?
You did an amazing job putting this together, Lauren! I couldn't have listened to this ridiculous speech without the visuals you added. We appreciate you and Dr. John and all of your hard work.
If a potato could speak it would sound like Chad Daybell. Wait no, it would sound way more engaging.
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The accuracy is overwhelming !
The 🥔'S speech is foretellably underwhelming!
Heck yeah 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I am only 6 minutes in....I found a cure for my insomnia I think.
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😂 me too!
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Great comment.. 😴
Could be an attempt at hypnotism if it weren't so damned annoying.
They aren't visions. They were Chads IMAGINATION! WOW
He sounds high the entire time..
And a lame one at that
Yeah, I thought he supposedly died and had an nde. He just passed out for a few seconds, if that’s even true. I wonder if his family could back up the wave story.
Yes I think his "visions" are only HIS imagination.
His premeditations.
When he got hit by the wave on the cove, the orange glow around him was his pants on fire.
Premonition of his future jumpsuit
I don't know if they're going to make it, they're all coughing and choking like they have Covid!
Preparing for future loinfire. HA
Pants on fire?…do you mean Loins of Fire?🔥 😂
OMG this was SOOO hard to get through!! He is so, so, so boring! It's disgusting that he made all this crap up and people believe he was inspired & directed by God himself. His blubbering made me feel physically sick. I appreciate you posting it because it is so relevant to the case but listening to him was torture.. :(
His body came out of his head??? Well that explains a lot 🤔
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@Loretta Lee..OMG..I'm laughing so hard I'm wheezing!! Thank you for the much needed comic relief during this mind numbing crap!(I'm only listening because I love Lauren and John)!
Lol!!!
Not a comment about this video but wanted to get this off my mind
..Lori Vallow's sister was a type 1 diabetic who took insulin. Insulin is something the pancreas makes in healthy individuals. Too much insulin causes shock and if untreated, death. As a nurse, when I did diabetic education with a patient... I wanted their family there too. It's not a leap to think Lori knew about insulin's toxicity and assumed it would not show up on autopsy since it's naturally occurring. Even if not to kill but at least to incapacitate. Just a thought I can't get off my mind...
Rita Mays. Nurse and serial killer who injected insulin as her murder weapon.
A lot of killer nurses use this method too. I have no experience of diabetes and know of this and I'm sure Lori's sister wouldn't notice a bit missing. I'm terrible at keeping track of my heart meds.
It one of the most maddening aspect of all this; what's this "silent killer" being used, and is it even more wide-spread around these fringe cults?
I have the same opinion. As soon as I learned about Lori's sisters manner of death I thought she was poisoned. And also I think her husband before Charles was murdered and then there's Charles. Lock her up and throw away the key! My grandma's saying...
Interesting thought. Thanks for sharing.
Chad is not easy for me to listen to but Im going to give it a try. I hope his own words will help convict him of murder of Tammy, Tylee, JJ, and possibly Charles.
Right! Agree 100% Chad is hard to listen to .I will listen though as I choose to gain insight , but couldn't agree with you more ! Much Love!
He's pretty monotone
Oh I know he is soooooo boring 😴
He’s stupid too!
Not to forget Alex. 💀
When I listen to Chad speak, 1) I hear someone who wants to sell his books, 2) And someone who says words and throws out ideas until he gets the response he wants from his audience.
I'm more of a cynic. I don't hear Chad believing what he says per se. I hear him "selling" the New Jerusalem to gain an audience or following. I was brought up in a family in which I had some really charming uncles. One in particular could sell snow to the snowbound. I could trust him as far as i could throw him. He was an amazing con really. This is what I hear in Chad. He's selling what a group of people want to hear, and they're buying.
P.S. Makes me a bit nostalgic really. Listening to him as a kid was enlightening. I learned not to trust without question those who are too charming, and not to trust mob mentality.
He is so delusional he probably feels like he's giving a Ted's talk, all in his damaged brain.
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I have had accidents in my life that had they gone the other way, I would have been dead.
I have even had a brain aneurysm, and was out of the hospital 8 days later after my mother was told I probably wouldn’t make it through the night.
My point is that I feel blessed, and yes I have endured near death experiences, but to embellish bad decisions like jumping from a cliff and belly flopping because you didn’t have a clue as to the correct way to dive, or calling the natural wave in California (I am from Ca.)
A rogue wave because you were inexperienced is really Not a reason to call it what he calls it.
He is delusional
You hit it exactly on the head, his ego and self opinion has been his drive to cover up his insecurities and inadequacies and he is so immature in his thinking that he rewrote his embarrassment and dumb choices to put a positive and prophetic spin on them, making it spiritual and tapping into the willingness to exploit parishioners, rather than to grow from life experiences and become a man. What a baby he is, but an evil, scheming, sadistic one at that!
One thing that struck me about this “family” of like minds, is when the children ( I think the two sitting in the front in the 48 hours interview), when chad’s son was giving the description of when he found his mom had passed, what his dad was saying and doing. The description of him “ pointing to her picture as he paces”, saying “she can’t be gone”…. was so eerie to me.
I was present when my mother’s spirit left her body, she layed her head on my dad as he was singing to her, and it was as if I felt as though her spirit went right through my dad as it left her body. I didn’t see it, it was just because of the reaction as my dad knew at the very moment.
I know not all people react the same, but it just seemed a strange thing not to want to hold her, or look at her, say her name. Chad just paced and pointed at her picture!
That image is hard to imagine, compared to how my dad reacted to his wife of 40+ years, who he loved dearly.
The daughter had said something about being her fathers voice. She has convinced herself that she has to be vigilant in proclaiming her dads innocent, so she will disregard any and all evidence that says otherwise.
my Mother has been gone for 6 years, and I still show more emotion when I think of her that her children or husband have shown!
Poor children. They have known only Chad and Tammy’s reality of the world. Breaks my heart. I pray that the Lord can help them to heal, and see the truth. I am not judging their family. Just comparing. Maybe I shouldn’t do that either. We grew up a pretty enmeshed family. Our mom was the one who kept us close. Once she passed, we were able to become adults and finish breaking that final hold she had on being dominant in our lives. My mother was a wonderful mother, but she had issues with letting her children go as adults and tried hard to keep tight reigns on us.
There is hope for these children to discover who they are, as independent adults. They can still live lives full of joy, but nothing can fix them until they face the reality of this situation they are in.
Snake oil and magic beans for sale! Get them while they're fresh!
The end where you put the pics of kay and Larry as he’s ending his talk 😢 got me right in heart.
How did you get a hold of this? I’m impressed. I heard from a friend that Chad came off as very humble. I can see that because he is kind of awkward and has a soft voice. However, if you just listen to what he saying, it is deeply concerning how he claims these so-called prophecies are because the Lord sent him these crazy revelations. I can see why some people fell for him. It scares me how he comes across so humble. But what he says is terrible. Untrue. His political viewpoints made me grit my teeth. The fact he is crying shows how touched he is by his own visions. He is disgrace to my beautiful town of Rexburg. Where has critical thinking skills gone too? This is so depressing.
Thank you for this comment. Very well said. Rexburg is a very beautiful town. I used to report there.
The source who trusted us with this recording requests to be anonymous.
I agree....and Lauren, thank you with all my heart!!
His voice is hypnotic but his message is pure evil
But people are eating it up! Ugh!
Do you recall when the Judge sentenced Lori Daybell to 3 consecutive life sentences, he made it a point to stress that she "came here" to do these crimes, that she was an outsider that brought heinous criminality to a formerly law-abiding town. I can't help but think that he wanted to send a message to any other outsiders, which is: if you're going to perpetrate, this is what awaits you. .
I feel the same way about the Hawaiian judge who set her bail at $5MM.
Lori couldn't just keep her evil criminality in her own back yard, she had to flaunt it and spread it around in her White Trashy Barbie way.
When he said he was in an orange rob I realized he must have been having a premonition of his future attire - orange jail jumpsuit.
😂 good one
Embarrassing that anyone believed his blatantly juvenile nonsensical "NDE"s. If I'd been in the audience I honestly think I would have turned to the person next to me and said, "But wait.... he thinks he died?! I'm not sure he knows what that word means...." And just the talk about his books it's so apparent that this is just some teenage-level end-times fanfiction...... I'm mortified that anyone listening thought this was even interesting, much less real. 🤦🏻♀️
Ya, it's embarrassing.
This cult listens to this junk every time the go to church so by the time they are adults it's all fantasy and they are totally deceived.
Cringe Fest!!!
His audience already read his books and believed in his "gifts" before the conference.
Did people actually pay real money to hear Chad's insane talks and buy his books?
I'm not so sure I can agree when people say Chad believes he has visions and NDEs. How does someone who claims that God is everything have multiple affairs with so many women (or try to)?
He claims to have met Jesus (blond hair and blue eyes), none of it makes any sense! If Chad walked a straight line; no women, no cheating, no lying, no murders, etc., then I might think he believes his own stories are real!
There's no way he wouldn't want to live a honest life, he wouldn't dare commit murders, the list goes on.
Chad knows he's a liar!
Chad is clearly not very intelligent. He apparently thinks there's only like three cities in the USA
And of course he lives in one of those cities conveniently!
@@jijic3447 He moved to Rexburg because he wanted to be safe in the apocalypse.
Yes, he seems very simple minded, and very full of himself. Also thinks he is funny, apparently.
His cadence in this speech was really weird.
He doesn't know the rest of the U.S. exists.
Hey Chad....i talked to the Devil.....he said your ghost Aint got S__t on him......hes looking foward to recieving your soul.....allready broken...your getting eternal Hell.
Stages of listening to this:
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Accurate.
I was surprised that none of his NDE’s actually involved actual real near death. To me he’s describing out of body experiences , not near death. I spent a year in hospital and my family was called in3 times as I was about to die and my surgeon twice asked if I wanted to stop treatment and be put on comfort care and die in 3-4 days. It’s 11 years later . I told the doctor I’d go ahead and try to live and if I did and was in too much pain I could kill myself then. He seemed shocked while all the while he was suggesting I do exactly that 11years ago. I suffered delusions - who knew I could write NDE books and people might buy them ? Always something to look forward to .
I agree with the out of body experience.
Once my brother was in ICU, and we had met many family members during that two weeks. One young girl who had been in a car accident, her mother wanted me and my mom to go to a room and talk with her. The young girl was broken up and in traction. She told us that her body went through the windshield and flew about 200 yards onto a walkway of a house ( close to their porch). She said her spirit was above her body and she watched it slam into the ground. She didn’t know what to think about it and so me and my mom told her that most likely her spirit was a safety mechanism so she wouldn’t feel the pain as her body was broken up. She said she had never felt pain until waking up a week later( the trauma team of doctors had kept her in a chemically induced coma, while multiple surgeries were performed.
Chad had out of body experience when that wave crashed against his body.
I believe this because of my experiences with my brother and several in ICU/ Trauma center I was allowed to speak to and hear their stories.
We prayed for all who were in the trauma unit and many family members approached us to keep praying for them. God answers prayers. All who asked, their family members eventually went home. A few who didn’t join us in praying, their family members passed away within a day or two of our first few days up there. I had always felt God led us that way to help show love and compassion to many people who were suffering traumatic accidents with their loved ones.
When we arrived, we had no room in the trauma/ ICU waiting room to sit, and my dad stretched out on the floor and slept the first two nights.
They said they had never had that many ICU/ Trauma patients at that hospital at one time.
I do believe God has a purpose, and He can use us. But we usually don’t know when where and what it is until it is all done.
We really didn’t know all that would happen, until it was all over!
Grew up in SF Bay Area, went to BYU-I, and now back in the Bay Area. What blows me away the most about this is how *normal* this all sounds. I've heard routines like this a million times. Stories of end times (though not as severe as Chad's descriptions) from my Nana, to the constant comments about California residents not being righteous/getting destroyed, etc. (and the associated chuckles from the crowd). Obviously Chad is very acutely evil; however, it's easy to see how this line of thinking could get a number of my fellow Ward members to go "off the rails". Eye opening stuff.
Agreed. I don't think most members would prescribe to mild versions of this, but I can definitely see some members I know some falling for stuff like this. I had a seminary teacher who believed a lot of obscure "doctrine" and talked about the end of times in strange ways (different than how I learned at church for sure). I always think about him when I hear stuff like this 😬
Going in for a cocktail, cuz I can't even with this goofball. And the laughing, giggling crowd...please!
I know !
I can't with all the giggling and coughing WTF Was this recorded in the waiting room of a walk in clinic? Grabbing myself a cocktail.
I can't help but think these people must have lived extremely boring lives to be chuckling at his stories. Also lots of time on their hands to be so obsessed with end of times.... And if they're paying to hear him speak... Can't even fathom!
I wonder if any of these " hee hee hee" giggling women is Lori?? Was she there that day?
@@ferrets4ever683 the pick me's
How could anyone be inspired or charmed by this guy. He couldn't lead someone across the the street let alone to be in his "army" against the coalition!!! His presentation was weak, rambling, incoherent drivel. He would be a star in an asylum. Cray, cray talk like in One Flew Over the Cukoo's Nest.
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I agree, I don't get the draw... Wondering how much/if people paid to hear him speak??? Can't imagine paying for this.
Common in Mormon testimony.
There are quite a few well known politicians right now who are thriving because they don’t indulge in critical thinking, and they too are following a Devine plan
I think it might be because we already know so much. We couldn't enjoy or believe him if we tried now....but before we knew his deeds? maybe? Who knows, but I can definitely see how even the slightest info about Chad can make him unappealing as an "inspired speaker
Thanks for sharing, Lauren! I can't say I enjoyed it, but it was interesting. All the best to you, Dr. John and your small son.
I learned so very much from Anna. So much of these senseless murders, Charles when no would listen, Tylee the beautiful teenage girl who knew too much, JJ a beautiful child with special needs, and Tammy the inconvenient first wife. She helped me understand how this came to be and if I ever encounter these evil cults, to speak up, loudly and clearly to disavow the same and to have compassion for the errant followers. Thank you so much. You are a remarkable person who rose above so very much!
Can't wait for this! At 6:30 PST, Sat. night, HTC RUclips. The questions and answers tonight on the Live Chat were awesome! Lauren & The Good Lori were fantastic! Thank you both!
Thank you for posting this. He’s crazy and a Plagiarist of old LDS folklore.
I'm proud of myself. I'm through 10 minutes of listening to boring, frumpy Chad and I've only fallen asleep 7 times. :-P. Orson Welles he is not.
That was a struggle to listen to .
He certainly has no charisma whatsoever. I thought cult leaders were supposed to have charisma in order for people to follow them. If you want an example of a cult leader with charisma have a look at David Koresh, the leader at Waco.
@@marilynkennedy8236 I think Chad was hypnotising people.
@@cherylwright9408 I don't know what he was doing but it was certainly not charming people.
@@marilynkennedy8236 agree !
Thank you for uploading this. Thankfully, it is easier for me to listen to this guy (somewhat) than read his words. His blog nearly killed me. lol
Lol!
I wish this recording was in written form - between his mumbling, monotone voice and speaking of things I don't know about I am lost. Is this blog you are talking about this speech?
Yeah Chad, that “orange glow” you speak of, that’s a premonition of your future jumpsuit. The next time you jump off something, it’ll either be your bunk or your bunkie. Have fun with that!
Perfect
LMAO
Brilliant!
I think there can be little doubt Chad sincerely believes everything he’s saying. But I think he’s also convinced himself that every little thought that pops into his head is inspired revelation. My sense is that he’s gullible that way, suggestible even, and given to flights of fancy and invention. God doesn’t pour inspiration out like candy. I think anybody who’s prayed for understanding or guidance knows how much work goes in to receiving that kind of help. I see no hint here of those strange beliefs he later seemed to have concerning zombies, pendulums, and dark or light spirits. Nor of his belief that he is the “leader of the 144,000”. I don’t see the arrogance he later displays.
Being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter Day Saints, Chad (and Lori) knew they were
straying far away from LDS
doctrine...and EVERY SINGLE LDS member knows they cannot do that and remain a member!! THEY ARE EXCOMMUNICATED....IT
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO
ME!!! AND THEY DID NOT
GET SEALED IN THE TEMPLE, BY JASON MOW, OR ANYONE ELSE!! THEY
ARE LYING.....WHAT GOOD
COULD BE ACHIEVED BY THEM? SAYING IT DOESN'T
MAKE IT TRUTH!!! WHAT DID THEY ACHIEVE??? WHY??? THIS BOGGLES MY
MIND!!!
@@kathelessley4813 I was told by a temple worker that the reason they have so many people standing at the various doorways and along corridors is partly to keep unauthorized folks (like Jason Mow) from sneaking into sealing rooms like he did with Chad and Lori.
@@DragonHeartTree I have a very hard time believing that any temple going members would even try to go anywhere they know they are not supposed to...
They were not sealed, married, sanctioned by the LDS Church in any way...it's a total lie....and THEY KNOW IT IS!!
Well I for one, VERY MUCH DOUBT that Chad actually believes what he's saying. At the end of the day, you might be able to fool other people, but you can't fool yourself, because the reality is, you KNOW when you've made bs up!
All I have to say is “ GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED…..” they are finding that out
I am at 30:10. He is talking about fictional books and characters that HE created but talking about them as if they are real, contemporary humans..? Am I hearing this correctly?
Yes
Yes
Yes, absolutely correct. Delusion.
Great show and chat last night! Looking forward to hearing him speak. So, let me see if I got this correct…..he speaks/she is there to hear him. She introduces herself. Somehow they discussed her kids (maybe even Charles?). Four days later (any in person or online communication in there?) he lets her know that her daughter is dark.
That escalated quickly.
I think Shawn Littlebear mentions seeing Chad around Lori earlier than this(?)
I think they met on preparing the people website or anyone of those related forums, they may have taken it private for a few years. Then they meet face to face after emailing for a few years. Who would make such a big scene of a author you enjoy reading ? She was jumping around like a groupie. Then MG walked away & Lori was talking to Chad the rest of the weekend conference. Before this meeting Chad had told Mel she was a gatherer.
Ill have to listen to this in 3 parts.. My psyche can only take so much! Thank you Dr John and Lauren ✌
"My body went deeper than my spirit...." wth
My thoughts exactly. WTH?
I’ve been to St. George and it’s really beautiful
The spirit Grandfather left out the part about being arrested for having 2 murdered children in his backyard 🙄.
Lori has a distinctive pitch of laughter, you can hear her enthralled and laughing at every opportunity, she was truly engaged by him
It seems to me that the draw for her was she wanted to re-write her own story and was willing to do anything to make the fantasy of “importance” and being a central leading character in her own story over-rode any maternal instincts she ever had
It’s enormously sad that she chose this path and discarded Charles who obviously adored her, it’s enormously sad Chad also threw his wife’s life away with his own future…all in the name of a “fantasy of self importance”
Healing and peace to all who have had their lives disrupted, endangered or obliterated by this delusional egomaniacal couple, may they live out their days deprived of light love and liberty but most importantly deprived of each other which to them, I believe is the ultimate punishment
In eternal memory of Joe Ryan, Tylee Ryan, Charles Vallow, JJ Vallow, Tammy Douglas (Daybell) and the countless nameless victims who have suffered at the hands of Lori and Chad Daybell…may their victims and their families find peace
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Well said
It's a room full of peolle, you can't possibly identify Lori Vallow
Didn’t Zulema claim to be able to start earth quakes and volcanoes? How convenient for Chad to have a follower that has the ability to make his predictions come true!
you've done an amazing job on these visuals
Thank you! I am a visual learner and I wanted to be able to show what we were hearing.
@@HiddenTrueCrime a whole year later and I can’t echo this enough! Visual learner to visual learner, I thank you!! :)❤ incredible to think where we’re at today and thank you for your day to day coverage there at the trial.
Sorry for all these comments but he has one of the weakest speaking voices I have ever heard. How is he charismatic enough to make people believe in his zombie shenanigans?
Maybe some sort of hypnosis? It's so monotone. 😑
@Jess Stone you hit it! That’s exactly what he did.
Well think of mindset of Cox family. He got them all believing his rhetoric.
@Jess Stone lol
I know right?!
He started in his mind already offing her kids so he could have her all to himself. He didn't want the baggage of her kids and he knew Tylee would of gave him problems.
Probably Lori didn't want to deal with the kids herself either
He raised his kids and was done. Of course her kids were dark spirits and zombies.
I agree, Tylee was older and probably wouldn’t have gotten in their way but she knew too much about the death of Charles.
Nah it wasn’t about that. They were planning all of their deaths for more than a year and there’s only one reason: life insurance payments.
Holy cow he is boring. What people saw in him is beyond me.
The scary thing is that in the LDS culture, there are probably 10 "Chad and Lori" type wacko's waiting for their 5 minutes of "look at me, God thinks I'm special" fame. It honestly makes me want to puke just hearing his milk-toast voice. ..🤢
I agree. Personally, it's the most fascinating aspect of this case. Lots of weirdness/demonic sh¡t!
I'm LDS and you're right. I'm much more careful now who I align myself with and steer clear from these types.
You are right, many Mormon men love to be the center of attention, I've seen it a lot.
The whole LDS church is based on lies. This is what they are taught from birth and they believe this junk. Go Google "Facts the Mormon Church doesn't want you to know"! Tells you exactly who this cult is and why their nonsense and lies don't go with the Christian Bible believing church! They are off scripturally completely .
Yes, one of the human needs is significance. Ie, to feel significant. Another is contribution.
I enjoyed the comments and presentation/ editing from you, Lauren( otherwise I'd have never muddled through Chad's speech). This was great from Stephanie Budge: " these people need to get out more" 😂
Truth.
Alright, my 1st Chad Daybell video watching him speak! Thanks a bunch for this bit of information on this “self made profit”. Ready to take a goo🧐 !
Love your channel ❤️
You're not "watching him speak". Just hearing him.
Thank you so much for the visuals!! ❤
This is absolutely painful!!! And he did MULTIPLE talks like this 😣😞😵💫
This is LDS speech style in many church's wards I've attended, mormons love it, specially the old people
Oh my goodness, yes I can imagine.. I am an Idaho girl and 2 minutes in I wanted to fall asleep. I’ve grown up around people in the LDS church and this guy is just bogus!
Chad is delusional, narcissistic and beyond hope. I can only conclude that his children r the same. NO EMPATHY.
Don't hate on the kids. It's not fair. Just wait until they figure out their dad killed their mom. It's not going to be easy for them. Have some empathy.
@@annwood6812 Sorry if it sounded like I hate the "children", I don't. Actually, I feel sorry for them. Clearly, they r a product of their environment and upbringing (aren't we all), however, I do find it hard to understand their apparent lack of empathy towards their mother. Baffling.
Now that we actually know that their mother died of asphyxiation I wonder if they'll still believe he's innocent..
@@cookie_dough_hangoverI think they still believe him. And will testify in his trial. They will probably blame the justice system though?
@@sula1529 Ugh, Tammy deserved better!
7:30 someone was sleeping, you can hear them kind of snort awake and drop their cup! Too funny!!
Omg I missed that the first time , went back and you are so right 😂
*⏩ Lauren, great job putting this together.* What in the world do those people see in Chad. *So incredibly cringey and dorky!*
Hi Lauren and Dr John.
The presentation by Chad was
like listening to a Dullard. He's a talking POTATO. I have a Question. What do you think they are doing in the Mental Hospital for Lori? It's fasinating to me just how competent she is in the world to accomplish her evil behaviours and manipulations.
What kind of treatments do you think they would use to make her competent for trial?
Thank you so much for all that you do Lauren. I love your Sensibilities. Good being here with you both and look forward to more.
I'd like to know how Lori is able to remain at the mental health facility. We know she's an evil murderer but does that mean she's not capable to stand trial or understand questions?
Does choosing evil over good mean she's mentally unstable?
We can all agree that she's "crazy" for killing her own children and spouses, "crazy" for her ways. IMO, she made a great life for herself that she didn't want or appreciate; she was capable of becoming a hairdresser, a wife (a few too many times)! becoming a mother, capable of reciting the book of mormon and retaining information/scriptures. She chose to "twist" the words to satisfy herself, her evil thoughts, her craving to feel special. I don't believe that (for almost 50 yrs) her personality changed overnight. She may have never felt happy but she managed to create a life many of us would love. Only she didn't want it, her beautiful children got in her way, cost money she wanted all to herself (they paid their own way & supported her)! She planned her life her way, she was able to control her husbands, money, friends, family; nothing was ever enough. She was able to manipulate people and cater to her every need!
This doesn't mean she's "crazy", her sense of entitlement and selfishness doesn't mean she's can't understand.
This is not about right or wrong answers, it's about the truth.
Lori is experienced and understands a court process, this isn't her first rodeo! She knew enough to "claim" she's "mentally unstable". Her whole life before this wouldn't have been so great had she been "crazy"!
Yes, she's crazy for her well planned choices, her personal thoughts but not "crazy" for prosecutors to believe.
Being restored to competency, though, is not about debunking her brain of her religious beliefs, it’s about helping her understand the legal process she will go to court and face. I worked as an RN on a unit in a psych hospital that had a sole goal of restoring competency. It’s not about her religious beliefs it’s about her understanding her upcoming legal battles. I had many patients who were able to be restored to competency but who remained “mentally ill” but they were able to understand the legal process. At this point, Lori may very well have some deeply entrenched fixed delusions that will never be changed but they may or may not impede her ability to understand her legal problems. In my state we DO have the “guilty except for insanity” plea and it’s not as easy to obtain as many people think. It’s my understanding that Idaho does not have this particular plea. If she can never be restored, I don’t know where they go from there from a legal standpoint.
@@wehvgirlpwr thanks for your reply. I totally agree with your
Explanation. That wasnt my question. I said to make her competent for trial.
@@kavitadeva Sorry, I misunderstood. In my unit all it took was to pass a psych evaluation performed by a psychologist or psychiatrist that proved she understood her charges, knew what sentence she might receive(ie…Felony A in my state is at least 20 yrs minimum, and so on), she must have an understanding of basic legal terminology that might be used in trial, understand the role of an attorney, judge and jury and similar issues. We did not discuss their legal case with them while assisting them to learn their legal skills except to question them if they knew why and what they were charged with. This is a somewhat simplistic explantation and I’m probably leaving some stuff out and it is also based on my state. It can take many months for some people and sometimes some patients were found NEVER competent meaning that due to mental illness, they will never be able to understand what is going on. Also in my state, in order to be found “guilty except for insanity” it must be proven that the person was mentally ill at the time of the crime and that the mental illness was a precipitating factor for the commission of said crime. Many people are hyper-religious and never cause harm, I will be interested to see how the results play out in light of her obvious religious beliefs which may in fact be fixed delusions that might never go away, even with meds. However, I do believe she could be quite capable of learning her legal skills and remain quite mentally ill, if in fact she really is. I have seen this numerous times and I have also met my share of Malingerers. I wish I knew more about how the system in Idaho works, it would be interesting. Maybe someone who knows will comment if it is similar. The subject fascinates me!
@@wehvgirlpwr hi there. Your comments are very thought provoking. I think she's is very aware of what it means to be competent for trial. Lori is a Master MANIPULATOR. Fully capable but acting incompetent. Have a great day.
He has a humble, aw-shucks demeanor that leads unaware listeners to think he is honest and harmless.
He writes fiction, then he believes what he writes, then he believes he's a prophet.
I actually can hear that criminal's voice (Lori) laughing in the audience along with other voices
Interesting. He’s almost charming when he’s in his element. I couldn’t see the draw before now. I mean I still don’t REALLY see it, but I can understand it better.
Charming? I don't find slow speakers charming at all, on the contrary it hurts to listen these type of losers
Why are women so easily charmed by this guy I will never understand!
I think Lori was looking for a cult leader like Chad. By the time she met him I think she was delusional. And she was in search of an easier life, with money and no kids.
Rebecca have you heard of a self-proclaimed prophet called Tracey Cooke? He is another very softly spoken man who is a lot more fascinating than Chad Daybell.
@@marilynkennedy8236 thanks, I’ll look him up!
Saved to my sleep playlist ❤
Maybe not wise
Telling us he sees Obama att the "Coalition of the brothers" that pretty much sealed it for me.(not that I didn't figure that out with the Zombie Murder Marathon) he is BATSHYTE CRAZY!!!
If I had to listen to his voice daily I'm break my own eardrums.
I can see how she became so enthralled.🙄
Gentle, not intimidating, vulnerable, delusional, name-dropping for credibility, master manipulator in the most quiet and unassuming way.
6:11 "My friends loved to talk me into doing stupid things... They could goad me into something that I shouldn't do... gotta impress my peers!" That actually says a LOT. That's the moment Lori's ears perked up. She knew he was easily manipulated and she could work him over.
Yep, Lori goaded him into doing something he shouldn't do (killing Tammy). He wanted to impress her.
I wonder if she would've, after Charles died, married Chad, taken out a big ins. policy on him & bumped him off.
There was some books written by a Baptist minister and a fiction writer called LEFT BEHIND and they did 2 movies with Nicholas cage and Kirk Cameron. I was surprised Nic Cage did that, it’s all about the rapture and the end of the world, and 2nd coming, and I read many many of them and saw the movies, although I can’t remember the Kirk Cameron movies as well. The books were well written and did very well. And were way ahead of daybelle’s idea to write books set in modern times, about the end of the world, except he used Mormon scripture, and his crazy fiction. I never fell down the rabbit hole reading those books, I did it for distraction and because I was in bed a lot because I was dealing with a lot of pain. So that helped me distract myself. I met the pastor and he really liked me. He was at this church for a couple of days so me and ma maman went to hear him. His name was Tim Le Haye. But like I said I never went down the rabbit hole reading them. They used the premise that one will be in the field beside another and be taken so you had people on a plane just disappear and all that was left was the clothing. And of course people are freaking out and then the pilot remembers what his wife was learning in church and how she invited him to come, now she’s gone, and their young son and the daughter and he who didn’t believe are “left behind”. He was tempted to have an affair with a co worker but did not act on it but almost did, and then afterwards becomes a pivotal character in the book along with his daughter and her boyfriend a journalist she meets after the people disappear.
Did he read The Stand?
Currently reading The Stand, and this was exactly what i thought!
Lol! EXACTLY my thought!
I don't understand how this could have happened.... tragic. Justice for all affected xxx may they be all held accountable for their actions.
Me neither😥
15 million LDS and only 144,000 get saved. None of the people in that room, but elders who've paid for a spot. That's unfortunate 🥴
That's not the scriptural depiction of the 144,000
Thanks for this upload. It’s a cure for my insomnia
His son said during that interview that he heard a thump I think he choked her or something and dropped her and she didn't land fully on the bed hence the thump. Who is he to say kylee was was a dark soul. Please bring up that list during trial.
*Tylee
I love your content! John too :)
Wow what a boring speaker I nearly fell asleep. I listened to your interview with girl on fire last night and the hypnosis. The way he speaks is pretty much hypnotizing. My brother was a hypnotist he performed in Vegas. It's the calm voice putting you pretty much to sleep.
Chad is the worst, for Lori I do not believe it was for the money. I think she whole heartedly believed him.
I did perk up when he said Trump was a miracle .
Thanks so much fr your hard work
How utterly....boring!! I am having a hard time figuring out why people are laughing. But because I like this channel, I will get through his monotone, pathetic, and uncharismatic talk.
I can’t keep my eyes from rolling back in my head.
lol as he describes his amazing white light you hear someone knocking things over.
Thanks for posting
Looking forward to this.
We were at the Utah National Parks this past June. We saw that schoolhouse, but i don't remember listening t a recording. Shoot! I missed it.
Just listening to his voice, l can tell he's a lummox!
Good word
What is so sick is everyone in that room is eagerly awaiting this tribulation time. So sure they will be victorious. Reminds me of the film Gone with the Wind when the southerners at the table were eager for war so sure they would be triumphant. Never considering the death and destruction they were courting.
How is Jason Mow going to be an Endtimes warrior. He's on disability because his back hurts.
I am surprised Lori didn't go after Jason looks more her type.
@@cherylwright9408 Jason isn't a prophet like Chad.
Chads reading of his book actually cured my of my constipation. Thank you so much chad for helping me stay regular. Im taking some amazing dumps now, thanks to you, your book, and your speaking. Well I wish I could write more but I have to take a massive dump
My dog is sitting next to me listening and seems very depressed lol
Chad, tho monotone, comes off as genuine, humorous, humble.
I can understand how folks who are searching in this direction might give him and his message consideration.
Chad has a face for radio and a voice for NPR
lmao
That "Don't Stop Believing" guitar riff ringtone that came on at 5:06 cracked me up
It's been brought up on some of your videos whether Tammy knew about Chad and Lori and Chad and other affairs. I can just imagine how much he must have changed as a husband once his books became popular, then he had a lot of followers/admirers while at the same time changing his total belief system within a matter of five years or less. He must have become like a stranger to her. It's too bad she couldn't have left and saved herself.
Was Chad a killer before he met Lori ... or did Lori meet him and MAKE him a killer? Hmm.
I don’t think he was a killer prior to meeting her but, he had cheated on his wife prior to Lori from what I have read. So he is not lily white.
@@househen1 I heard on Reddit he was telling all these women including Melanie Gibb and Julie Rowe they were his wives in another time just like the fantasy stuff he would tell Lori and that Melanie’s ex husband told him to quit talking to her! I always thought that is why he said sweet Melanie to her on that phone call.
I heard that in his childhood he killed many bee insects on one ocasion of distress, also, his parents kind of neglecting him and his siblings, so the psicopathy was probably there but wasn't triggered before he met Lori
@@lidiagutierrez7983 and a pet cemetery. Killing racoons seemed like something he had done before.
He was killing before Lori. He told many people that Tammy was having a car accident soon. So he definitely had already started wanting out and wanting that life insurance.
What did people see in him and his wacko ideas?
This is how it started with Jim Jones.
How he managed to recapture anyone is inconceivable because it is not merely that he has a voice that drones on its tone is unpleasing . Have wondered listening to him in the brief speech situations available _& in those thought may be it was deliberate in order to make the public feel.he is innocuous bit this is a completely different situatiin
Having a fair understanding of " hypnotic " indoctrination am.attempting to hear this in his speech but cannot discover it . Such a harsh intonation. , A truly unpleasent voice that equals how he appears in.personality bidy language . NOTHING pulls me in & am susceptible to both aspects if people
fromy Father to My late Husband ,& several.public figures I have never met .
Is it that he sounds like Joseph Smith? If they can sit through a mormon sermon then this is probably a joy?
Lori must have been sitting close to the mic, you can hear her giggling and making little comments here and there.
He has photos of his wife up. Interesting how these “enlightened beings” could break just about every commandment and not have that register.
Could be anyone.
No, you just want it to be her.
He hasn't predicted anything Nostradamus didn't predict for 6 centuries. 600 years later we're still waiting for the end times... ANY DAY NOW!
Lauren, in the captions when Chad talks about his NDE at La Jolla, he says his grandfather was … Daybell that captioned as “davil” and his great grandfather was … Daybell that captioned as “infinity devil”. Too scary for me. Time for me to pull back on the Daybell wickedness.
Do you mean the subtitles? That's creepy!
Interesting comment he made that those who believe this will become leaders. That's got to appeal to certain people in this audience. Its helpful to understand how people could throw away all critical thinking.
Not only does Chad have a punchable face, but he has a punchable voice to go with it. I can’t believe people listen to this BS. 😠
Chad Daybell didn’t see too much into his future for now his a convicted serial murderer sentence to death