Me either, If she thinks her dad has done nothing wrong she should tell the truth, because if he has done nothing wrong the truth should show that, But it doesn't, Emma knows her dad is guilty and she agrees with what he did, she said herself her mother's spirit wasn't connected to her body, She 100% believes in what that father of her's preach's
I think Emma was so distant from her mother that she believes everything her dad has told her about her Mom.. I do agree and think it is very wrong of her to disrespect her Mom's memory like she is...
I think age is in serious denial. One day, she will wake up and needs some serious counseling. unfortunately, she will be counseled by someone in her church.
You are all so happy to spout your opinions as if the are facts. You don't know what Emma's feelings for her mother were. You don't know anything about what any of the people concerned feel about anything. Instead of setting yourselves up as judge and jury why don't you just let the law take its course and be thankful that you have a healthy family life, though going by the irrational and malignant suppositions being poured out against people who are not charged with any crime makes one wonder what kind of role models you are for your own children.
Rebeccaashton9621 I totally agree also yesterday prior kept saying when they dug her up like she (tammyRip) was some sort of potato he should be more respectful and as you said like never mention the children's names 🙏🏼 😄👏⚘️🇮🇪
2 kids are killed and buried on the Daybell property and not a single Daybell cares. Including Emma's husband. People around the world care more. 😢 To me, that's unforgivable. Innocent kids 😢
I think Emma will come around! It would be hard for any child who was raised in a very religious home. And who thinks her father is a great family man. To come to terms with something this horrific. It is hard to get much worse than what they did. When Chad goes to prison or gets the death penalty! That is going to be a major wake up call ! I appreciate Dawson mentioning Charles too!
@@carolynwright3026 Sorry, but most people would not go along with this to this extent. If you listen to her testimony, that''s somebody who thinks the killer of her mother and two children (and probably others) should walk free. Why? Because it's HER father? I'm pretty sure every time Emma heard about a child killer being tried for their crimes, she didn't think they should let him be free because he's such a wonderful patriarch.. I'm not saying that's what you're saying either, it's just her testimony sent me over the bend; sitting there criticizing her mother for cheating on her fitbit or going to bed early? I'm still not over it. I can't imagine my kids colluding with the likes of Prior to make sure and anything I can think of so the jury doesn't feel sympathy for. It's unbelievable. Sorry for the rant, you're just being empathetic. I get it.
I believe this, too. I’ve seen it too many times. In addition, Joe Murray did not have to testify. If he didn’t read the evidence, he shouldn’t have testified.
@@janetshemaryahu5529if anything, his testimony helps the prosecution for his attitudes towards the prosecution and the local police who were/are doing their jobs. He’s doing further harm to his children by allowing her to continue to cover for her father’s crimes. That’s an extremely dysfunctional, unsafe family situation to raise children in! How could you stay in that house, and have your own children playing in the yard where other children had been buried?!
@TheShmoo1243 exactly…and she has no problem taking the life insurance money from Tammy or taking Tammy’s care she uses everyday. Yet she says “I’m not like Colby.” What a loser of a person.
Dawson, your integrity and courage is no small matter. Thank you for showing us there is light in the darkness and for trusting Lauren to facilitate your truth. ❤️🩹
His brother's hostility on the stand towards law enforcement who were simply trying to solve the murder... of CHILDREN.... was not a good look. He didn't do himself any favors there.
It sounds like that church all the people there have some level of mistrust of law enforcement, doctors etc....often a sign of cults...they enforce that mistrust so it isolates the people and that could be why Emma and Jo mistrust the police.
If it was their kids they d be begging the police for help and if they are now living in fear they may need the help of law enforcement sooner than they think to protect them and the house and land especially that people are so upset with the lack of empathy and respect to Tammy JJ and Tylee. It seems very shocking and Emma seems like a zombie like her dad. It was very strange to witness Chad and Emma I have never heard anyone talk like that before and if I did i d be keeping well clear of them JMO
I will give her grace. She was narrowly questioned by the Defense and Prosecutor. Hopefully, one day we will hear her prospective, and she will share lovely memories of her Mom. 🙏🏻☮️ 🦆 🐕
@dianealarcon8304 How she was questioned has nothing to do with whether or not she could feel emotion. Nothing she said sounded like she cared at all that her mom died and two murdered children were buried in her father's back yard. She sounded cold and calculating. She painted her mother in a very negative light and painted her father as a saint, even though she knows he was cheating on her mother. He introduced her to his mistress days after her mother's death -- at her mother's house. Two weeks later he was dancing it up in Hawaii with that mistress, now wife. She's defending him. Now she is living at that house (where her mother died and his mistresses' children were buried) with her own children. That's pretty cold.
@@lacyspano11440 I am from Covington Louisiana but live in California now and I just feel like he’s so beautiful Kay also it makes me want to just drive to Lake Charles and give them a hug
Glad someone from this family has come forth to show compassion for the victims. Emma, Garth and Joe showed complete indifference to the dead children buried in their backyard. Pretty sickening.
Ahhh well done Dawson. Brave man with heaps of integrity. You’ve done the right thing here. Thank you - I hope the rest of your family are proud of you, as they should be.
Yes. She would have been far more credible had she shown a smidgen of kindness towards Tammy. That speaks to me of rehearsal and grooming about how to get points over in the testimony first and foremost. Tammy’s reputation was collateral damage.
Even if she was subpoenaed, she could have just answered truthfully! It was obvious she lied to protect her dad. I don't think the jury will be swayed by her testimony!
@@rachelsmith2524 My take away was that she was saying exactly what she was coached to say by her dad and his lawyer! You might be able to find a RUclips clip that just has Emma’s testimony! I think I saw several with different witnesses in separate videos:)
What a kind young man. It is obvious that Chad coached and manipulated Emma and that put Emma and her family at risk. That says all you need to know about Chads selfishness and motives.
That tells you all you need to know about Emma as well. She's a fully grown woman and a mother as well who lied under oath. If I had children in her school I'd demand she'd be fired
Emma is the classic golden child of the narcissist parent. He’s trained her to be loyal to him since she was little and he realized she was a lot like him.
@@kateashby3066I suspect that she’s always been Daddy’s girl. Which in a more normal family could be quite charming but not with Daybell as a father. I do feel sad for the kids, shame on Chad for causing such harm to his entire family. Hopefully their eyes will be opened soon, but not holding my breath.
Dawson says respect Joe and Emma…sorry I cannot give ANY respect to Emma. She gave no respect to her mother while on the stand and has NEVER shown one ounce of sorrow for JJ and Tylee.
Exactly!!!! She basically pissed on her mother’s grave and memory and they deserve all the public pushback they get. I wonder if facts over time will make them put their pride aside and wake up from the spell of Chesus Daybell.
I felt like Garth acted kind of “ simple minded” and his voice was like a sing song thing. Idk, feel sorry for all those kids. They’ve been brainwashed!
Emma IS a joke! The way she maligned and disrespected her own mother in front of the whole world! She has no compassion or respect for her mother and she made that abundantly clear on the stand! To be able to do that is in her!
@@deborahsmouse368I agree. I believe she knew whre the kids were. She said “we walked around over there” but she didn’t notice anything. Meaning, she and her child walked around where JJ was buried, and she didn’t notice anything…it was a JJ sized hole, perfectly dug. She knew what that was.
You can tell Dawson is a stand up guy. I admire him for doing this interview. But, his brother Joe will never change his mind as long as he is with Emma. Chad is a druving force on Emma and Emma is the driving force on Joe. Both of them lied, I get Joe is wanting to support his wife, but to what length? Joe knows the difference between right and wrong, his attitude on the stand was erroneous!! However the public is treating them is a situation they brought on themselves. THEY put that target on themselves!! Anyway, great job Dawsin!!
Imagine, too, that they’re raising three more little chad daybells, will this crime be committed again in the future? Or at the least, continue grandpa’s cult, because she and those kids will certainly visit him as much as possible, and he will lead them from prison.
I don’t agree that Joe is ONLY supporting Emma- that dude H@TES law enforcement. He really believes they set up Chad. He’s not too bright, but he’s doing what HE thinks is right.
@@MissMolly3377Hopefully by the grace of god he cannot continue his coercion & teaching from prison, and he gets the death penalty. The thing I worry about like you is the messed up daughter Emma fighting for dads beliefs to continue after he is gone. This kind of thing is indoctrinated into them and really they are a lost cause.I would think that damage has been done to Emma’s family’s reputation and the family will suffer because of this. They will always be referred to as that family who’s dad killed children and buried them in the back yard and the whole Lori / Alex thing. The thing that really troubles me is she is a teacher and she has children of her own! That’s a big worry !
Now we will see if her blind obedience to the patriarch of the family will extend to her husband. She won’t handle it the way her mom did. It will be her way or highway as regards to her own family.
This was cathartic. My brother was part of a satanic panic trial in 89-90 and this is the first time I have ever heard someone speak publicly about how the community treats the whole family like they are in trial. Thank you.
Joe and Emma are living in that house for financial reasons???? I'd live in a tent before I'd live there! Two children were buried there. Her mother died there. Ugh!
@@DMJ160 Yes. I said it that way (died) because even if she doesnt believe her mother was murdered, there is no question that Tylee and JJ were -- and were buried there. That would be enough to not want to live there or bring my children there to live.
@@suemount6042 Not with a mortgage on it. He owns the equity, but Chad didn't own it outright to be able to give it away. Emma's family is living there to keep up mortgage payments; if it went into foreclosure, Prior wouldn't get a cent out of it. Likely Emma and Joe can't afford to pay the mortgage and a separate rent elsewhere for themselves.
As a woman proud of her Calcasieu Parish (where Kay and Larry live) roots, it warms my heart to see how many people have embraced Kay, Larry, and every grieving family member and friend of the victims. My mom grew up just south of Lake CharlesI. We are taught to help our neighbors and I’m glad it extends halfway across the country. Thank you to Dawson, Heather and Matt Daybell, and everyone else who have called out the evil.
I didn't hear all all their testimonials but I really didn't notice Joe saying anything as bad but I did pick up on how programed and coached by her father she was.. Joe may have been too. I just didn't notice it that much with him is all..
You never have to be embarrassed or in fear of telling the truth from your heart. Thank you, young man, for speaking up and I'm very sorry that you have been embroiled in this entire situation. Wishing you blessings always.
The craziest part for me is that they and their coven actually believed in Chad and Lori as prophets. It’s startling for the sane to comprehend, but when you accept that, you can easily see how they were acting by the pool. They actually believed the bullshit.
I remember how kind Dawson was on a FB page that Emma and Joseph were basically mocking those wanting justice. Thank you Dawson for being a kind and wonderful human
Poor Dawson, wanting to stand up for the truth, yet at the same time trying to be loyal to his family and not to expose them in any way. You did a good job.
At Tammys funeral Chad told them Tammy was lazy. This from a man who's wife has been the primary breadwinner AND who had responsibilities with the publishing company as well. This reminds me so much of the Morphew daughters and their Dad.
I really doubt that just shaking your arm adds steps. Mine only adds a step when I geographically move. They are GPS driven I believe. So, I feel Emma made up so many lies about her Mom. I doubt she was going to bed before dinner. I doubt everything she accused her Mom of.
I’m impressed this young man stepped forward and spoke. But I’m glad he did. And I think everyone appreciates how hard this must be for Dawson and the entire Murray family. He clearly still loves his brother and I’m sure the whole family does - but the Murray family are right to dispel any thoughts that they all support Chad and Lori.
I think it’s hard for those of us who haven’t gone through this personally, to really understand what it’s like to be in Dawson’s shoes - when someone you love is so deeply involved in this. I understand his comment on Joe supporting his spouse. Chad’s involvement in these murders has affected so many people, including the Murray family. It’s so sad that so many innocent people have suffered from Chads crimes. Dawson, I’m so proud of you for speaking out. God bless you!
Hey Dawson, courage is being afraid and doing it anyway. Good on you, Buddy! I will pray that your brother catches up the reality & I hope he knows what a wonderful brother he has in you! Stay strong! 🙏
Dawson did a great job relating how he feels about the situation and yet, he did not throw his brother and Emma under the bus. I have much respect for him being brave enough to do this interview. Thank you, Dawson.
Dawson, take care. Speaking out is extremely brave. This is not over yet. The ramifications affect your family and your own health and safety and future. You have a platform with all of us if you or your brother ever find yourself needing help or in an unfair situation. If your brother ever plans on divorce take special measures to make absolutely everyone aware of everything going on. Use our community resources - we’re all out here supporting you and all the others who are struggling with this. This happened in silence, and silence allowed it to continue except for Charles desperate pleas to police and mental health professionals for help. His life might’ve been saved if anyone had listened to him. Well, we’re ALL listening now to anything that you need to say.
Dawson, thank you for giving a voice to your family. I must admit that Emma and Joe's testimony was difficult to watch and left me feeling confused and angry with them. Thank you for some perspective.
EXCELLENT! I was vocal about Joe after his testimony and needed this perspective. Thank you Dawson and Lauren. Dawson you were heard and my heart is with you and yours.
I think Emma knew the kids were buried back there long before the police found them. During the police car interview, she wasn’t surprised at all and she says something along the lines of “I wasn’t sure at first but then I studied more and now I know” which I’m assuming was about the whole killing the body/zombie thing.
It’s really impressive how Dawson conveys so much love and support for his brother while still stating his own opinion honestly. Its refreshing to hear a more nuanced point of view
Thank you Dawson. I hope you’re feeling okay talking about this. It’s very hard. Lauren is a great person to talk with about it. Take care of yourself and your family
Tammy reminds me of my daughter; quiet, gentle, dependable, kind, funny, compassionate, self-sacrificing ... A rare jewel, indeed. I'm sure I would have loved to know her. Her worthless husband and kids have thrown her away like she didn't matter. She did matter!!! She gave life to those ungrateful kids!!! She fed her family; won the bread and probably cooked it, too. Lori seems like a nearly used-up flash-in-the-pan (alledged) black widow (in my opinion). Plastic. Fake. Shallow. No comparison. Chad is nuts. He gave up pure gold for fool's gold.
You are wrong about this. She was a nut too, following Chad. I only care about the innocent children who were murdered because of the Daybell family. ALL OF THEM!!
Brave young man with a lot of integrity. Must be a difficult situation for your family. So sad that Emma would disrespect her Mother in such a blatant way. How do they possibly justify in their minds the fact that these children were buried on the property?? Makes no sense!! 15:08
You’re not an accomplice because you are family and It’s wrong to threaten Emma or Joe. But I don’t think I could be friends with them either. Not because I think they are bad people, but because people this blind are frustrating to deal with.
If they're feeling shunned by people, they've only themselves to blame. People can be understanding that they're not responsible for the behaviour of other family members, but when you support that family member to the degree they are, then people are obviously going to be concerned. That's real life and naturally people will not want to associate with potential threats, especially to children. It belies a grandiose attitude to expect people to behave otherwise.
Thank you Dawson for coming forth and telling your story! It boggles my mind how they can live in the house where Tammy was murdered and two children were buried!
The way Emma spoke of her mother reminded me of how Heather Daybell described how Chad's mother was treated by her boys and her husband. I believe the word Lazy was used to describe with of them.
This interview shows the true effects of a tragedy. It's like throwing a rock into water. It just ripples and continues. These people that were murdered effects their families and extended and just keeps going. It's torn people apart. So sad.
I wanna throw a theory out there regarding why Chad felt it important to tell Emma to move the mattress (whilst Chad was sitting in the back of the police vehicle). That mattress might have been a murder weapon - after listening to defense's witness who said more than one person is needed to squash a person to death, what if Chad and Alex both sat on the mattress with Tammy underneath it? This method of murder would leave no visible/obvious marks on her body. And it might explain why moving the Mattress bothered Chad when he realized he 'wasn't coming home' when his yard was being dug up by authorities.
Yes that mattress was definately used for something...Fancy asking Emma to move it..why?..Daddy's little princess who obviously has seen a chance to resemble Lori ..bleaching her hair😉..it's as though she wants Daddy to notice.
Dawson is super brave for speaking out. Thank you Lauren for reaching out to him. He has a compassionate soul. Many prayers for all affected by this tragedy. And prayers to Emma and Joe🙏🏼
Lauren, I watched last night. I was very impressed with your sensitive interviewing of this family member. I was also impressed with Dawson’s love and care for his brother and his ability to be nuanced in this difficult and complex situation. It is evident that there has been family conflict and he is trying to keep the door open to mend fences with his brother. This can be a difficult path to take, and I am impressed with his optimism that one day his brother will come around. Great interview all around.
It’s crazy to me that Chad was shooting and burying a raccoon at the same time that Alex was burying Tylee, and they somehow managed to not see each other. (Sarcasm intended). But I do love that Chad’s text put himself at the scene even though he was “smart “ enough to turn of his location
Nice to see this young man is full of compassion and clearly integrity. I will never be able to wrap my head around how Emma and her husband can take the cold callus approach they have. And never will I be able to understand how they can stay in the house her mother was murdered in along with 2 innocent children. There has got to be something fundamentally wrong with them.
I don't doubt had he not been stopped that would have happened. I'm very concerned to learn that she speaks to him everyday. This man is very dangerous as are those who buy into his belief system.
When I heard you hugged JJ's grand dad, that was enough for me. Thank you for talking to us, and may I add you are a well mannered, handsome young man.
Thank you Dawson for sharing! You are awesome and understand you still love and support your brother . Sometimes we have to stand in the shadows. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers
Awww he's wonderful for actually listening and watching and going with the facts. I can understand why Emma wants to remain in denial. I hope she sees the truth someday and i think he was very respectful to everyone in his and Emma's family
This was a great interview. I am more than appalled that Chad would allow his children to testify in his trial. He is adding to their trauma and harm. I agree with comments that the death penalty has most likely influenced Emma. Thank you Dawson. That was courageous.
They are adults; Chad If no one from his family testified in his defense, it would be a bad look. My guess is that Prior thought it would be a good idea for family members to testify. Chad could have objected.
It reveals further depths of his self centeredness and lack of care for even his own children, with no thought of how all this will effect their lives on so many levels. He's utterly selfish without a shred of love or care for anyone.
I think it’s important to realize how many levels this has impacted the families. It’s important for Dawson to do what he can do to start healing himself. I cannot even begin to fathom what they have been through.
I can't give Emma any understanding. She got on the stand and lied through her teeth and she spoke horribly about her mother.
Same...
Agreed
My anger is at their dad for putting his kids in that situation.
I have no respect for willing liars.
Me either, If she thinks her dad has done nothing wrong she should tell the truth, because if he has done nothing wrong the truth should show that, But it doesn't, Emma knows her dad is guilty and she agrees with what he did, she said herself her mother's spirit wasn't connected to her body, She 100% believes in what that father of her's preach's
I do not feel for Emma she is a liar and a turncoat on her mother. Shame on Emma.
I think Emma was so distant from her mother that she believes everything her dad has told her about her Mom.. I do agree and think it is very wrong of her to disrespect her Mom's memory like she is...
He called her “Jokester” 11:51 maybe she’s more like a trickster
I think age is in serious denial. One day, she will wake up and needs some serious counseling.
unfortunately, she will be counseled by someone in her church.
You are all so happy to spout your opinions as if the are facts. You don't know what Emma's feelings for her mother were. You don't know anything about what any of the people concerned feel about anything. Instead of setting yourselves up as judge and jury why don't you just let the law take its course and be thankful that you have a healthy family life, though going by the irrational and malignant suppositions being poured out against people who are not charged with any crime makes one wonder what kind of role models you are for your own children.
Seems like you might like to reflect on your own judgements? People are reflecting on the evidence they have seen/heard and are entitled to do so…
Watching from the UK. What surprised me was the complete lack of compassion for Tylee and JJ from all the Daybell kids and Jo.
And Dawson. Really messed up.
Rebeccaashton9621 I totally agree also yesterday prior kept saying when they dug her up like she (tammyRip) was some sort of potato he should be more respectful and as you said like never mention the children's names 🙏🏼 😄👏⚘️🇮🇪
Because their father is Chesus and they are entitled! Imagine the pressure of being the children of Chesus the Holy Daybells😳
And the way Joe all but blamed law enforcement. It was absolutely disgusting to listen to them testify!
@@eileenbytheway3684he’s not going to be more respectful, he knows those monsters have zero respect for her!
What a handsome, personable young man. Diplomatic, articulate and so nice to set the record straight without bashing his brother.
Well said!
Tammy showed more compassion for pets and wildlife than her husband and kids have shown towards her and Tylee and JJ
Chad Emma and Garth have ZERO empathy. They are psychopaths
Chad apparently isn’t an animal person and honestly I’m not surprised.
@@emilinebelle7811 probably why they got rid of JJs service dog 😪
@@johannawigg6921 I hadn’t thought of that. Good point
@@emilinebelle7811 i hadn't thought of either. GOOD POINTS
I have named this sweet young man. "Awsome Dawson". We are all so very proud of your courage and honest heart! Your wife chose a jewel of a man! ❤
I love your positive comment I noticed that Lauren did to❤
2 kids are killed and buried on the Daybell property and not a single Daybell cares. Including Emma's husband. People around the world care more. 😢 To me, that's unforgivable. Innocent kids 😢
I mean Heather Daybell cares, but yes the callousness of the main family is abhorrent.
@@ScribblerILM Yes!! Heather Daybell (and I think her husband and kids, as well) is a bright light in that darkness.
I think Emma will come around! It would be hard for any child who was raised in a very religious home. And who thinks her father is a great family man. To come to terms with something this horrific. It is hard to get much worse than what they did. When Chad goes to prison or gets the death penalty! That is going to be a major wake up call ! I appreciate Dawson mentioning Charles too!
Daybell kids get with it. Pray to the true God not to the fake Lord of the rings.
@@carolynwright3026 Sorry, but most people would not go along with this to this extent. If you listen to her testimony, that''s somebody who thinks the killer of her mother and two children (and probably others) should walk free. Why? Because it's HER father? I'm pretty sure every time Emma heard about a child killer being tried for their crimes, she didn't think they should let him be free because he's such a wonderful patriarch.. I'm not saying that's what you're saying either, it's just her testimony sent me over the bend; sitting there criticizing her mother for cheating on her fitbit or going to bed early? I'm still not over it. I can't imagine my kids colluding with the likes of Prior to make sure and anything I can think of so the jury doesn't feel sympathy for. It's unbelievable. Sorry for the rant, you're just being empathetic. I get it.
Dawson Murray your brother Joe will never change as long as he stays married to Emma Daybell who justifies murdering 2 children and her mother
I believe this, too. I’ve seen it too many times. In addition, Joe Murray did not have to testify. If he didn’t read the evidence, he shouldn’t have testified.
@@janetshemaryahu5529if anything, his testimony helps the prosecution for his attitudes towards the prosecution and the local police who were/are doing their jobs. He’s doing further harm to his children by allowing her to continue to cover for her father’s crimes. That’s an extremely dysfunctional, unsafe family situation to raise children in! How could you stay in that house, and have your own children playing in the yard where other children had been buried?!
And Emma and her husband took the money Cad was giving out to them.
@TheShmoo1243 exactly…and she has no problem taking the life insurance money from Tammy or taking Tammy’s care she uses everyday. Yet she says “I’m not like Colby.” What a loser of a person.
Exactly. I so hope he gets counseling, outside the LDS church of course, then finds a way to get his children away from her
Dawson, your integrity and courage is no small matter. Thank you for showing us there is light in the darkness and for trusting Lauren to facilitate your truth. ❤️🩹
Well said, Kat.
Thank you for saying that. A lot of us feel this way.
I agree. ❤
❤ DAWSON THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL INTERVIEW 🙏
Agree.
His brother's hostility on the stand towards law enforcement who were simply trying to solve the murder... of CHILDREN.... was not a good look. He didn't do himself any favors there.
It sounds like that church all the people there have some level of mistrust of law enforcement, doctors etc....often a sign of cults...they enforce that mistrust so it isolates the people and that could be why Emma and Jo mistrust the police.
Makes him look suspicious to me.
That made my blood boil!
Yes! Hopefully he never calls them for help. He doesn’t deserve any assistance from law enforcement
If it was their kids they d be begging the police for help and if they are now living in fear they may need the help of law enforcement sooner than they think to protect them and the house and land especially that people are so upset with the lack of empathy and respect to Tammy JJ and Tylee. It seems very shocking and Emma seems like a zombie like her dad. It was very strange to witness Chad and Emma I have never heard anyone talk like that before and if I did i d be keeping well clear of them JMO
Emma doesn’t seem to even care that her mom’s dead, and that 2 kids were found buried on their property. It’s pretty disgusting. 😒
I will give her grace. She was narrowly questioned by the Defense and Prosecutor. Hopefully, one day we will hear her prospective, and she will share lovely memories of her Mom. 🙏🏻☮️ 🦆 🐕
@@dianealarcon8304she publicly fat shamed her dead mother who wasn’t fat. It’s kinda hard to come back from that.
@dianealarcon8304 How she was questioned has nothing to do with whether or not she could feel emotion. Nothing she said sounded like she cared at all that her mom died and two murdered children were buried in her father's back yard. She sounded cold and calculating. She painted her mother in a very negative light and painted her father as a saint, even though she knows he was cheating on her mother. He introduced her to his mistress days after her mother's death -- at her mother's house. Two weeks later he was dancing it up in Hawaii with that mistress, now wife. She's defending him. Now she is living at that house (where her mother died and his mistresses' children were buried) with her own children. That's pretty cold.
I can't listen to this anymore. Signing off. Everyone seems so detached and nonchalant about the gravity of what's gone on here
And her kids are playing where the bodies were found!🤮🤢
Larry Woodcock is grace in a human body
Absolutely and an example of what a real man is. Strong, loving and true to his family ❤️🇦🇺
@@VPNfreespeech Amen!
You just can’t imagine! We know him personally and he is amazing
@@lacyspano11440 I am from Covington Louisiana but live in California now and I just feel like he’s so beautiful Kay also it makes me want to just drive to Lake Charles and give them a hug
Glad someone from this family has come forth to show compassion for the victims. Emma, Garth and Joe showed complete indifference to the dead children buried in their backyard. Pretty sickening.
Brave guy
@@TheNarcissus666he reminds me of Colby Ryan. It’s respectable when one calls out their loved ones. You can love the sinner AND hate the sin.
But he is not related to crazy Peter Griffin and his family (Chad)
@@stefanshipoLOL! Are you sure? Because Chad looks just like Peter 🤔
That's what I said Peter Griffin A.K.A Chad
Im so sad that Chad and Lori’s selfishness has devastated so many families. The collateral damage is immense. Thank you Dawson.
Lives have been forever destroyed. 💔
Ahhh well done Dawson. Brave man with heaps of integrity. You’ve done the right thing here. Thank you - I hope the rest of your family are proud of you, as they should be.
Emma didn’t need to be so disrespectful toward her mother on the stand. That was very sad and in my opinion spoke to her indoctrination.
Yes. She would have been far more credible had she shown a smidgen of kindness towards Tammy. That speaks to me of rehearsal and grooming about how to get points over in the testimony first and foremost. Tammy’s reputation was collateral damage.
Don't you dare blame her behavior on Indoctrination.
She CHOSE to say those things.
Even if she was subpoenaed, she could have just answered truthfully! It was obvious she lied to protect her dad. I don't think the jury will be swayed by her testimony!
what were the disrespectful things Emma said about Tammy? I haven’t been able to watch everything.
@@rachelsmith2524 My take away was that she was saying exactly what she was coached to say by her dad and his lawyer! You might be able to find a RUclips clip that just has Emma’s testimony! I think I saw several with different witnesses in separate videos:)
What a kind young man. It is obvious that Chad coached and manipulated Emma and that put Emma and her family at risk. That says all you need to know about Chads selfishness and motives.
That tells you all you need to know about Emma as well. She's a fully grown woman and a mother as well who lied under oath. If I had children in her school I'd demand she'd be fired
Emma is the classic golden child of the narcissist parent. He’s trained her to be loyal to him since she was little and he realized she was a lot like him.
@@kateashby3066I suspect that she’s always been Daddy’s girl. Which in a more normal family could be quite charming but not with Daybell as a father. I do feel sad for the kids, shame on Chad for causing such harm to his entire family. Hopefully their eyes will be opened soon, but not holding my breath.
Chad may have coached Emma, but EMMA's the one who made that sinful choice.
Emma too. Joseph should not trust her.
Dawson says respect Joe and Emma…sorry I cannot give ANY respect to Emma. She gave no respect to her mother while on the stand and has NEVER shown one ounce of sorrow for JJ and Tylee.
Dawson seems like a sweet guy but I agree w/ you. Her treatment of her mother's memory is heinous. Time will not change their hearts.
Exactly!!!! She basically pissed on her mother’s grave and memory and they deserve all the public pushback they get. I wonder if facts over time will make them put their pride aside and wake up from the spell of Chesus Daybell.
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Emma doesn’t need enablers - she needs reality, painful as it may be.
@@donnasloan2455 True statement. But it does not appear, at this point, that she is even willing to listen to anything other than what daddy says.
I would never let Emma teach my children
Same. Garth either.
Oh, I feel the same! I’d be wondering what she’s rating my child!
I felt like Garth acted kind of “ simple minded” and his voice was like a sing song thing. Idk, feel sorry for all those kids. They’ve been brainwashed!
@@SusanNexusEspecially since he married one of his former students. Creepy.
@@CuteTexasToadshe what?! That's very upsetting, where did you learn about that?
Emma IS a joke! The way she maligned and disrespected her own mother in front of the whole world! She has no compassion or respect for her mother and she made that abundantly clear on the stand! To be able to do that is in her!
Emma ONLY knows what Chad has told her.
Emma has zero common sense. Common sense is not common
I say Emma had some part in what her dad did
@@deborahsmouse368I agree. I believe she knew whre the kids were. She said “we walked around over there” but she didn’t notice anything. Meaning, she and her child walked around where JJ was buried, and she didn’t notice anything…it was a JJ sized hole, perfectly dug. She knew what that was.
It broke my heart!
You can tell Dawson is a stand up guy. I admire him for doing this interview. But, his brother Joe will never change his mind as long as he is with Emma. Chad is a druving force on Emma and Emma is the driving force on Joe. Both of them lied, I get Joe is wanting to support his wife, but to what length? Joe knows the difference between right and wrong, his attitude on the stand was erroneous!! However the public is treating them is a situation they brought on themselves. THEY put that target on themselves!! Anyway, great job Dawsin!!
Imagine, too, that they’re raising three more little chad daybells, will this crime be committed again in the future? Or at the least, continue grandpa’s cult, because she and those kids will certainly visit him as much as possible, and he will lead them from prison.
I don’t agree that Joe is ONLY supporting Emma- that dude H@TES law enforcement. He really believes they set up Chad. He’s not too bright, but he’s doing what HE thinks is right.
@@MissMolly3377Hopefully by the grace of god he cannot continue his coercion & teaching from prison, and he gets the death penalty. The thing I worry about like you is the messed up daughter Emma fighting for dads beliefs to continue after he is gone. This kind of thing is indoctrinated into them and really they are a lost cause.I would think that damage has been done to Emma’s family’s reputation and the family will suffer because of this. They will always be referred to as that family who’s dad killed children and buried them in the back yard and the whole Lori / Alex thing. The thing that really troubles me is she is a teacher and she has children of her own! That’s a big worry !
Now we will see if her blind obedience to the patriarch of the family will extend to her husband. She won’t handle it the way her mom did. It will be her way or highway as regards to her own family.
This was cathartic. My brother was part of a satanic panic trial in 89-90 and this is the first time I have ever heard someone speak publicly about how the community treats the whole family like they are in trial. Thank you.
Wow! We need to hear your story/journey. I bet that experience was super traumatic, I’m glad this was cathartic for you
Joe and Emma are living in that house for financial reasons???? I'd live in a tent before I'd live there! Two children were buried there. Her mother died there. Ugh!
Her mother was MURDERED there
@@DMJ160 Yes. I said it that way (died) because even if she doesnt believe her mother was murdered, there is no question that Tylee and JJ were -- and were buried there. That would be enough to not want to live there or bring my children there to live.
The house belongs to John prior now apparently
@@suemount6042I wonder when prior is going to give them the boot.
@@suemount6042 Not with a mortgage on it. He owns the equity, but Chad didn't own it outright to be able to give it away. Emma's family is living there to keep up mortgage payments; if it went into foreclosure, Prior wouldn't get a cent out of it. Likely Emma and Joe can't afford to pay the mortgage and a separate rent elsewhere for themselves.
Thank you Dawnson for coming out and talking about all of this going on , appreciate you and paryers for you and your family also thanks once again 💞
Blessings to you and your family, Dawson. This is a brave and compassionate move that will contribute to healing for all.
As a woman proud of her Calcasieu Parish (where Kay and Larry live) roots, it warms my heart to see how many people have embraced Kay, Larry, and every grieving family member and friend of the victims. My mom grew up just south of Lake CharlesI. We are taught to help our neighbors and I’m glad it extends halfway across the country. Thank you to Dawson, Heather and Matt Daybell, and everyone else who have called out the evil.
I think Dawson is projecting his compassion on Joe and Emma. Joe and Emma don't have it.
I didn't hear all all their testimonials but I really didn't notice Joe saying anything as bad but I did pick up on how programed and coached by her father she was.. Joe may have been too. I just didn't notice it that much with him is all..
@@Teresa-tn4weooooh I see it. Joe is a very angry man and I don’t think the turmoil with the Daybells is the only reason.
Joe & Emma were required to tell the truth. It's not about supporting your spouse, father, etc.. Sometimes the truth is uncomfortable.
DAWSON, Thank you for speaking out so honestly. Praying for healing for all of your family.
You never have to be embarrassed or in fear of telling the truth from your heart. Thank you, young man, for speaking up and I'm very sorry that you have been embroiled in this entire situation. Wishing you blessings always.
It was shocking to hear Emma say no one should ever have an autopsy.
Chad and Lori caused sooooo much pain for so many people. Heart wrenching pain. Life changing pain.
All for their own lust and delusion.
The craziest part for me is that they and their coven actually believed in Chad and Lori as prophets. It’s startling for the sane to comprehend, but when you accept that, you can easily see how they were acting by the pool. They actually believed the bullshit.
They've destroyed so many lives, which will have a snowball effect for a very long time, they've so much to answer for!
And neither of them has one ounce of mercy remorse or apology
It just feels so unfair. Why ??
I remember how kind Dawson was on a FB page that Emma and Joseph were basically mocking those wanting justice. Thank you Dawson for being a kind and wonderful human
Thank you, Dawson. You help us understand the struggles of the family of victims. Thank you for trusting Lauren, and Dr. John.
Poor Dawson, wanting to stand up for the truth, yet at the same time trying to be loyal to his family and not to expose them in any way. You did a good job.
Emma saying Tammy practically cheated with her fitbit against the Murray's didn't need to be said!! So disrespectful!
At Tammys funeral Chad told them Tammy was lazy. This from a man who's wife has been the primary breadwinner AND who had responsibilities with the publishing company as well.
This reminds me so much of the Morphew daughters and their Dad.
@@lavonnecornellcollins8460Yes, I cannot think of Emma & Garth without thinking of Malory & Masey.
I’m sure she was told to say that by her evil father. She is clearly still under his complete control.
Chad’s gaslighting, psychological abuse, and reversing the roles of victim and offender.
I really doubt that just shaking your arm adds steps. Mine only adds a step when I geographically move. They are GPS driven I believe. So, I feel Emma made up so many lies about her Mom. I doubt she was going to bed before dinner. I doubt everything she accused her Mom of.
Sending hugs to this brave and wonderful young man.
Stand up man, Dawson. I am so sorry this pain is yours to deal with.
Much appreciated!
Dawson is such a good guy - I appreciated his comments, and thank him for coming into your show.
Agreed, thks fr the interview
Thank you for speaking up Dawson and supporting Kay and Larry!
Amazing young man! May God bless and heal you and your family!
Lauren, you are so thoughtful with making your guests feel comfortable. ❤
She's done so much to help heal so many lives that have been affected by this selfish monster.
Yes! She is so kind! It is sweet to watch her work ❤️
Thank you Dawson! Great insight!! I’ll be praying for your family!
Dawson is a good, thoughtful person.
I’m impressed this young man stepped forward and spoke. But I’m glad he did. And I think everyone appreciates how hard this must be for Dawson and the entire Murray family. He clearly still loves his brother and I’m sure the whole family does - but the Murray family are right to dispel any thoughts that they all support Chad and Lori.
What a lovely guy and I genuinely mean that , wishing his whole family the very best love from Ireland ☘☘
I feel Emma and Garth know way more than we realize. Thank you for your insight, Dawson.
I think it’s hard for those of us who haven’t gone through this personally, to really understand what it’s like to be in Dawson’s shoes - when someone you love is so deeply involved in this. I understand his comment on Joe supporting his spouse. Chad’s involvement in these murders has affected so many people, including the Murray family. It’s so sad that so many innocent people have suffered from Chads crimes. Dawson, I’m so proud of you for speaking out. God bless you!
Dawson spoke more fondly about Tammy than her own children did.
Amen
Right now, while these kids are in denial, they are seeing their mother through their father’s eyes.
Hey Dawson, courage is being afraid and doing it anyway. Good on you, Buddy! I will pray that your brother catches up the reality & I hope he knows what a wonderful brother he has in you! Stay strong! 🙏
Dawson did a great job relating how he feels about the situation and yet, he did not throw his brother and Emma under the bus. I have much respect for him being brave enough to do this interview. Thank you, Dawson.
Good Point!!
Good point!!
Dawson, take care. Speaking out is extremely brave. This is not over yet. The ramifications affect your family and your own health and safety and future.
You have a platform with all of us if you or your brother ever find yourself needing help or in an unfair situation. If your brother ever plans on divorce take special measures to make absolutely everyone aware of everything going on. Use our community resources - we’re all out here supporting you and all the others who are struggling with this.
This happened in silence, and silence allowed it to continue except for Charles desperate pleas to police and mental health professionals for help. His life might’ve been saved if anyone had listened to him. Well, we’re ALL listening now to anything that you need to say.
Dawson is absolutely adorable. His integrity, humility grace, and humble nature is so refreshing. Such a pure beautiful soul.
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Dawson, thank you for giving a voice to your family. I must admit that Emma and Joe's testimony was difficult to watch and left me feeling confused and angry with them. Thank you for some perspective.
Sad that Emma is willing to purged herself. Not an LD S virtue
He's gonna have a 100% truthful take on this tragic situation. Life has a way of rewarding an honest person. His courage will bring blessings.
Lauren, this was simply awesome. I love Dawson’s care and concern for Joe & Emma. It says so much about who he is.
Much love 🫶
Thanks so much for sharing your story!!!
I can see Emma drumming up support for Chad even if he is found guilty! Shes never going to change!
EXCELLENT! I was vocal about Joe after his testimony and needed this perspective. Thank you Dawson and Lauren. Dawson you were heard and my heart is with you and yours.
Yes I didnt feel too good about Joe either, but fr sure his brother makes it a bit clearer. Independent thought makes a big difference❤
I think Emma knew the kids were buried back there long before the police found them. During the police car interview, she wasn’t surprised at all and she says something along the lines of “I wasn’t sure at first but then I studied more and now I know” which I’m assuming was about the whole killing the body/zombie thing.
I agree I think all Chad's children especially Emma and Garth are more deeply implicated in at least the cover up of his crimes.
I think she was a cult member and a part of the entire murder process.
I agree
I think he told her in the AM when the police were there searching and he was at Emma’s for hours.
Bravo Mr. Dawson, Thank You Lauren.
She didn’t lose her mom. Her father murdered her mom.
They’re the same thing. Stop being rude. She was murd3red and hence she lost her mom. Period.
Umm. Take a deep breath and center. If that doesn't work, chocolate will.
We are alright.
@@kateashby3066 That was not rude. That was fact. Now the official verdict is in, Guilty.
Well, she still lost her mother. Although she's a disgusting pos for the way she spoke on the witness stand
@@kateashby3066 but she threw her mother under the bus.
Thanks for bring him on, and thanks to Dawson Murry. His courage to speak up will go a long way toward healing many hearts.
It’s really impressive how Dawson conveys so much love and support for his brother while still stating his own opinion honestly. Its refreshing to hear a more nuanced point of view
What a kind fella Dawson is. So kind to his brother and Emma while still not agreeing with their stance.
Thank you, Dawson. You have great courage and strength.
Thanks for the honesty Dawson Murray ❤❤❤
Thank you Dawson. I hope you’re feeling okay talking about this. It’s very hard. Lauren is a great person to talk with about it. Take care of yourself and your family
Tammy reminds me of my daughter; quiet, gentle, dependable, kind, funny, compassionate, self-sacrificing ... A rare jewel, indeed.
I'm sure I would have loved to know her. Her worthless husband and kids have thrown her away like she didn't matter. She did matter!!! She gave life to those ungrateful kids!!! She fed her family; won the bread and probably cooked it, too.
Lori seems like a nearly used-up flash-in-the-pan (alledged) black widow (in my opinion). Plastic. Fake. Shallow.
No comparison. Chad is nuts. He gave up pure gold for fool's gold.
You are wrong about this. She was a nut too, following Chad. I only care about the innocent children who were murdered because of the Daybell family. ALL OF THEM!!
This is the absolute best comment
😮 gosh
What a sweet, and lovely man! Thank you Dawson for sharing with us!
April from OHIO. Thank you Dawson for being brave. No judging here!!❤
Brave young man with a lot of integrity. Must be a difficult situation for your family. So sad that Emma would disrespect her Mother in such a blatant way. How do they possibly justify in their minds the fact that these children were buried on the property?? Makes no sense!! 15:08
Exactly, bless your family for getting caught up in this. ❤️
You’re not an accomplice because you are family and It’s wrong to threaten Emma or Joe. But I don’t think I could be friends with them either. Not because I think they are bad people, but because people this blind are frustrating to deal with.
Agree with you!
Yes very frustrating people are acting like those kids were not buried in The Daybells backyard
It's wrong to threaten anyone but Joe and Emma don't deserve any support.
If they're feeling shunned by people, they've only themselves to blame. People can be understanding that they're not responsible for the behaviour of other family members, but when you support that family member to the degree they are, then people are obviously going to be concerned. That's real life and naturally people will not want to associate with potential threats, especially to children. It belies a grandiose attitude to expect people to behave otherwise.
Oh, they’re bad. Some people are just inherently bad and not safe to be involved with in any way or even in close proximity to.
Thank you Dawson for coming forth and telling your story! It boggles my mind how they can live in the house where Tammy was murdered and two children were buried!
I KNOW! ME TOO! Shocking
@@wendymiesowitz1897AND...CHAD DOES NOT OWN THE HOUSE ANYMORE...JOHN PRIOR DOES! IS THAT THE REASON THEY TESTIFIED??
Me too!!!! Absolutely vile 🤮
Not everyone is wondering that. It was very brave of you to come foward. It's a difficult dynamic. God bless you.
You are A Kind Soul D and a Good Brother too to want to support your brother even tho you cant quite understand his choices
The way Emma spoke of her mother reminded me of how Heather Daybell described how Chad's mother was treated by her boys and her husband. I believe the word Lazy was used to describe with of them.
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This interview shows the true effects of a tragedy. It's like throwing a rock into water. It just ripples and continues. These people that were murdered effects their families and extended and just keeps going. It's torn people apart. So sad.
I wanna throw a theory out there regarding why Chad felt it important to tell Emma to move the mattress (whilst Chad was sitting in the back of the police vehicle). That mattress might have been a murder weapon - after listening to defense's witness who said more than one person is needed to squash a person to death, what if Chad and Alex both sat on the mattress with Tammy underneath it? This method of murder would leave no visible/obvious marks on her body. And it might explain why moving the Mattress bothered Chad when he realized he 'wasn't coming home' when his yard was being dug up by authorities.
Absolutely!!
I didn’t recall anything about a mattress…
Yes that mattress was definately used for something...Fancy asking Emma to move it..why?..Daddy's little princess who obviously has seen a chance to resemble Lori ..bleaching her hair😉..it's as though she wants Daddy to notice.
Maybe something to do with Alex DNA is on it…
I thought the same regarding the mattress but more so that it's where she was killed in the comfy cone where it's soundproof
Dawson is super brave for speaking out. Thank you Lauren for reaching out to him. He has a compassionate soul. Many prayers for all affected by this tragedy. And prayers to Emma and Joe🙏🏼
Appreciate you speaking out Dawson! Thank you for your courage.
Brave young man! Really appreciate your perspective. Super respectful of all parties. Thank you Dawson.
Lauren, I watched last night. I was very impressed with your sensitive interviewing of this family member. I was also impressed with Dawson’s love and care for his brother and his ability to be nuanced in this difficult and complex situation. It is evident that there has been family conflict and he is trying to keep the door open to mend fences with his brother. This can be a difficult path to take, and I am impressed with his optimism that one day his brother will come around. Great interview all around.
It’s crazy to me that Chad was shooting and burying a raccoon at the same time that Alex was burying Tylee, and they somehow managed to not see each other. (Sarcasm intended). But I do love that Chad’s text put himself at the scene even though he was “smart “ enough to turn of his location
Pretty telling when you can't find where Dumbbell is that day.
Chad put himself at the scene of the crime with that text!
Nice to see this young man is full of compassion and clearly integrity. I will never be able to wrap my head around how Emma and her husband can take the cold callus approach they have. And never will I be able to understand how they can stay in the house her mother was murdered in along with 2 innocent children. There has got to be something fundamentally wrong with them.
Fundamental being key …
Thank you, Dawson, for giving this interview.
It’s very scary that Emma is ok with her dad rating kids as dark since she has kids. I wonder if she would rate her own children.
I don't doubt had he not been stopped that would have happened. I'm very concerned to learn that she speaks to him everyday. This man is very dangerous as are those who buy into his belief system.
Dawson is such a class act. He is brave, honest and compassionate. He’s a treasure.
Dawson’s nervousness was charming.
When I heard you hugged JJ's grand dad, that was enough for me. Thank you for talking to us, and may I add you are a well mannered, handsome young man.
Thank you! I have enjoyed getting to know Larry he is a very great guy! Much love 🫶
Thank you so much this interview was very interesting. Wishing Dawson the best and may the Murray family heal from this tragedy
What a nice young man
Thank you for being so beautifully vulnerable, Dawson ❤ Sending hugs from Portland, Oregon.
Thank you Dawson for sharing! You are awesome and understand you still love and support your brother . Sometimes we have to stand in the shadows. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers
Thank you Dawson, people around the world have been affected by these senseless murders, I hope the best for you and your family.
Thank you Lauren and Dawson for doing this. To Dawson, warm wishes, thoughts and prayers to you and your family from Norway
Great interview!! Thank you Dawson!! Prayers for your family!!
Awww he's wonderful for actually listening and watching and going with the facts. I can understand why Emma wants to remain in denial. I hope she sees the truth someday and i think he was very respectful to everyone in his and Emma's family
This was a great interview. I am more than appalled that Chad would allow his children to testify in his trial. He is adding to their trauma and harm. I agree with comments that the death penalty has most likely influenced Emma. Thank you Dawson. That was courageous.
Chad doesn’t care about anyone but himself. So what if it hurts his children.
I think Emma is a true believer and overly attached to her father. She hardly acts like a grown woman.
They are adults; Chad
If no one from his family testified in his defense, it would be a bad look. My guess is that Prior thought it would be a good idea for family members to testify. Chad could have objected.
It reveals further depths of his self centeredness and lack of care for even his own children, with no thought of how all this will effect their lives on so many levels. He's utterly selfish without a shred of love or care for anyone.
He killed their mother; safe to say he’s not concerned about their wellbeing.
Man I can't imagine not having a conversation with my brother about something as huge as this.
I think it’s important to realize how many levels this has impacted the families. It’s important for Dawson to do what he can do to start healing himself. I cannot even begin to fathom what they have been through.