The Worst Mode in Smash Bros History

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  • @acottontailnightfang584
    @acottontailnightfang584 2 года назад +491

    I was scared of playing the master pieces as a kid. I was told that the timer is all the time you get to play the games, ever. I avoided the masterpieces since I didn't want to waste my one chance to play the games. It wasn't until this video that I learned that they were replayable...

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  2 года назад +147

      Oh my goodness that is the greatest story I’ve ever hear haha. I think if they gave us only one chance to play 30 seconds of Donkey Kong I’d go insane

    • @meyadin5844
      @meyadin5844 2 месяца назад +22

      I DID THE EXACT SAME THING

    • @compromisedreality8827
      @compromisedreality8827 2 месяца назад +7

      @@meyadin5844 Same here. For some reason I always misremembered having to reunlock or even pay (???) for them to play them again.

    • @CoralCopperHead
      @CoralCopperHead 2 месяца назад +4

      @@compromisedreality8827 I could've sworn I remembered making new save data in order to replay the demos once.

    • @elchi2103
      @elchi2103 2 месяца назад

      lol

  • @LonkinPork
    @LonkinPork 2 месяца назад +23

    I just love that, practically out of spite, speedrunners have figured out how to "beat" Ocarina of Time within the Brawl Masterpiece time limit, in two different ways: a Credits warp on one of the offered save files, and beating Ganon on the other save file.

  • @robertlauncher
    @robertlauncher 3 месяца назад +151

    30 seconds for DK is hilarious. One of the most punishing games in Nintendo’s history, have fun with half a minute

    • @joshtheryuk
      @joshtheryuk 2 месяца назад +27

      It's even less than that because by the time the game loads and you have gotten past the title screen you only have like 19 seconds left lol

    • @robertlauncher
      @robertlauncher 2 месяца назад +7

      @@joshtheryuk Goodness lol

    • @rinnnnnnnnnnrin
      @rinnnnnnnnnnrin 2 месяца назад +2

      Your name is awesome lol

    • @robertlauncher
      @robertlauncher 2 месяца назад

      @@rinnnnnnnnnnrin Thank you! Comes from me making my load out mostly explosives in Call of Duty. Rocket Launcher to the face? Probably the Robert Launcher 😂

  • @MaleficWeegee
    @MaleficWeegee 2 года назад +160

    If it wasn't for my cousin showing me the OoT Masterpiece when I was 12, I wouldn't have grown to love the franchise as much as I do now. Didn't know a damn thing about LoZ until I was playing around on the Ocarina. That shit blew my mind!!!. First Zelda game I owned was A Link to the Past/Four Swords on GBA for my 13th birthday!
    The Masterpieces weren't totally dookie.

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  2 года назад +21

      The OoT demo is pretty dang cool I gotta admit. Easily my favorite demo when I was younger. Glad to see the mode do some good haha

    • @MaleficWeegee
      @MaleficWeegee 2 года назад +7

      @@MattTrashBoat Oh yeah! Ironically enough, I DID have a modded Wii at the time too (but someone stole my SD card) as well as my gamecube with the og Action Replay that came with its own memory card for adding codes onto.
      This video just reminded me how many hours I spent inputting line after line of code. Took me like an hour or so to diddle the Kokiri Rock Boy into an Arwing. First played and completed Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask through the Collector's Edition.
      This video really put all that into perspective. So many funny stories I can share again. Thanks for this kicksss video. You definitely earned a new subscriber.

    • @salted3807
      @salted3807 2 года назад +10

      same, but with earthbound & 4's masterpeices.

  • @trentonshowers7366
    @trentonshowers7366 3 месяца назад +7

    I remember pulling a literal all nighter trying to beat taboo on high dificulty for a place i used to work at...think an after school program

  • @yoshinator98
    @yoshinator98 2 года назад +4

    Im glad this video was recommended, cause it just showed me a goldmine of a channel 🥺
    Keep up the great work!

  • @meyadin5844
    @meyadin5844 2 месяца назад +3

    something funny i found out recently was that mother 2 in the japanese masterpiece collection has some small text differences unique to that version much later on than you could ever get within 5 minutes, like removing some references to pissing yourself or somethin

  • @denzeltheeternalunderstudy2858
    @denzeltheeternalunderstudy2858 2 года назад +8

    RUclips recommended another gem to me. Good job, good sir. Hope your channel grows

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  2 года назад

      Your kind words means a ton. I’ll try and work to earn that growth 😈

  • @seansquiers6506
    @seansquiers6506 2 месяца назад +4

    Smash Tour: Am I a joke to you?

  • @Scrimbini
    @Scrimbini 2 года назад +5

    How the hell do you only have such little recognition!! You've definitely earned another sub :) Keep up the good work man!

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  2 года назад +2

      haha who knows? I don't advertise too much but I'll try and branch out more, but thanks for the sub :D

    • @Scrimbini
      @Scrimbini 2 года назад +2

      @@MattTrashBoat You deserve a lot more recognition for these videos :) your channel makes some good stuff and you should get the attention for such effort. I hope to see more from you!!

  • @markusmccloud
    @markusmccloud 15 дней назад

    I seem to recall the Masterpieces being kind of... unstable in Brawl. Maybe it was just the inbuilt emulator Nintendo used, but I remember only being able to play about two of those demos at any time before having to back out into the main game for a bit.
    Don't misunderstand me: The masterpiece demos _themselves_ worked fine, but playing a third demo typically caused it to freeze on a black screen either going into the third game or coming out of it after the green timeout screen. And no, it wasn't just an abnormally long loading sequence. The "Now Loading" with the Smash logo never popped up... it just stayed black.
    Anyone else remember experiencing anything like that? It might've just been a fluke on my end; maybe it was just my particular Brawl disc or my Wii at fault.

  • @James_Dawg
    @James_Dawg 12 дней назад

    Hard to say masterpieces was the worst mode when smash tour was a thing. Masterpieces was one of the reasons i became a game collector. Like i had a replay store nearby and my childhood consisted of saving up money to get consoles and games. I didn't have internet for a while till way after brawl came out. So this was one of the first i was hearing that these characters came from other games (which is sad because I also played melee) and got me curious to hunt the full versions down and collect them

  • @Ramuh.
    @Ramuh. Месяц назад

    I think they should have had "Here's the first world of Super Mario Bros." or "Here's Ocarina of time up until the first boss but you don't reach the forest."
    Something where it's still a demo but now it's just early game and it's expected!

  • @LaySuperMarioLover
    @LaySuperMarioLover 3 месяца назад +9

    Brawl was my introduction to SSB, and videos like these really highlight how underrated Brawl is nowadays. Still sucks that ''Masterpieces'' has just demos instead of the full games though. I recently watched a video in which someone did something complicated with Brawl's code and found that of all these older games within Brawl, are actually fully playable, but that Nintendo put an artificial time limit on them.

    • @GhabulousGhoti
      @GhabulousGhoti 3 месяца назад +3

      It's not even complicated with the code, IIRC it's one line of Gecko code to disable the time limit. Been a thing since at least 2010.

  • @irate___
    @irate___ 2 года назад +2

    Really great video, I hope your channel swells insize soon as you deserve it, keep up the great work 👍

  • @Helios2737
    @Helios2737 4 месяца назад +1

    I think its funny that of all the masterpieces, the longest game (as far as I know) to be one of them, OOT, is the only one where the credits can be reached in the time limit.

  • @FrankEShaw05
    @FrankEShaw05 2 года назад +3

    Brawl masterpieces is the inly way ive ever played the first legend of zelda and i feel like as a kid i feel like only managed to make as much progress in that time limit as i would have if i owned the full game back then (absolutely no progress past the first cave where you get the sword)

  • @A_Person_64
    @A_Person_64 2 месяца назад +1

    5 mins for OOT always bothered me, I always wanted at least the first level of each game playable instead of the timer, but now I understand how emulation works now...
    What a wild world it was back then to have whole NES games in GCN Animal Crossing though.

  • @CometSpaceWolf
    @CometSpaceWolf 2 года назад +20

    You know what….. fair enough. I can’t think of many bad smash “modes” besides like smash tour but that had it’s own fun of just playing it with friends and making fun of how bad that was. Masterpieces are kinda boring

  • @philz_corsia
    @philz_corsia 2 года назад +1

    Watched this and couldnt believe you have any less than 10k subs! Editing, content, commentary are all spot on, keep it up!!

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  2 года назад +1

      I shall try! Thanks for the kind words dawg it means a ton

  • @CoreyDavid22
    @CoreyDavid22 10 месяцев назад

    Dude this is so well edited. And the commentary sounds great. Keep it up!

  • @Aidan_B_Young
    @Aidan_B_Young 3 месяца назад

    The Masterpieces mode in Smash 4 specifically was where I first played EarthBound, which is now my all time favourite game. What sucks about the trial for that game though is that you don’t even get to fight any enemies with the amount of time allotted.

  • @torvus249
    @torvus249 Месяц назад

    If they wanted them to be ACTUAL demos, just include the first world. That'd be 4 levels for Mario World 3, for example. For things like Donkey Kong, include the first 5 levels. Legend of Zelda, the first dungeon, etc. That way players can enjoy a small part of the game and have enough information to decide whether or not they like the gameplay.

  • @MaximNightFury
    @MaximNightFury 2 месяца назад

    Masterpieces was my first exposure to Star Fox 64 and Ocarina of Time... it's not the worst, that would be Coin Launcher

  • @bihn
    @bihn 2 года назад +2

    I was convinced that masterpieces was a weird dream i had as a kid

  • @rennythespaceguy7285
    @rennythespaceguy7285 Год назад +1

    I would always immediately die in Mario and Mario 2 to get to be Luigi for like 13 seconds

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  Год назад +2

      but those truly were some magical 13 seconds I bet

    • @rennythespaceguy7285
      @rennythespaceguy7285 Год назад +2

      @@MattTrashBoat I'd take those 13 seconds of weeg over 13 hours as anyone else

  • @DragonSkyNija
    @DragonSkyNija 3 месяца назад

    Playstion 1 Demo 1 games was mostly 20min demeos, I think Unlimited tine but ended when you got into a specific section of the game, so out side of it it you could do any thing, and some game had both the time limit and section limit.
    My favourite game was on Europe Demo 03 Armored Core it have no time limit or will not end automatically by it self, but the limit was Single player only had 1-2mission with a single equipment part to unlock, but fun part for me was versus mode where you and some friend/sibling could build and color your mech with jyst lumited parts, but could not save it, could then fight each other on just one sinlge versus mode map with a 2min time limit.

  • @collective2007
    @collective2007 2 года назад +1

    I thought I was watching some alpharad retrospective video, good job man

  • @coopeachu
    @coopeachu 2 месяца назад

    I swear to god, call this a Mandela effect or soemthing, but I swear the trial period for F zero was 8 seconds

  • @memelurd7341
    @memelurd7341 2 года назад +1

    Yet speedrunners still managed to beat OOT within the time limit

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  2 года назад +3

      That still blows my mind honestly. One of the most impressive things I’ve ever seen

  • @rinnnnnnnnnnrin
    @rinnnnnnnnnnrin 2 месяца назад

    World of light was hella dull, it had fun aspects and the map was really nice but man i would have preferred a fully realized smash run or adventure mode OR ALL STARS MODE

  • @BubbleKirby77
    @BubbleKirby77 Месяц назад

    Masterpieces are still better IMO than World of Light.
    I loved trying to figure out how far I could get in Kirby's Adventure before time ran out. It was a fun little distraction and yeah it can be a bummer when time runs out, but hey at least it's not World of Light.

  • @impressionist6692
    @impressionist6692 3 месяца назад

    People on youtube will fr just say something is bad and people will agree, even if it isn't

  • @NottJoeyOfficial
    @NottJoeyOfficial 3 месяца назад

    I can't find a shorter demo than the 30 seconds for Donkey Kong, but I can match it! Sonic Forces a decade later also had a 30 second demo lmao.

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  3 месяца назад +1

      That is fitting for sonic forces LOL

  • @graftongazaway
    @graftongazaway 3 месяца назад

    Fun (Maybe) Fact: The first Donkey Kong Country was considered as a Masterpiece in Brawl, but the game was so rare they decided against it, I guess.
    Edit: Sorry if I was wrong about this.

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  3 месяца назад +1

      Did you just do what I think you did 🧐

    • @graftongazaway
      @graftongazaway 3 месяца назад

      Tbh I was mostly using this video as background noise while drawing.

    • @Wendy_O._Koopa
      @Wendy_O._Koopa 3 месяца назад +1

      @@graftongazaway He's saying did you just make a "Rare," i.e. the company who made the game, joke.

    • @graftongazaway
      @graftongazaway 3 месяца назад

      @@Wendy_O._Koopa ahhhh

    • @graftongazaway
      @graftongazaway 3 месяца назад

      @@MattTrashBoat yep (it was unintentional but I'll take it).

  • @shyguygaming5397
    @shyguygaming5397 2 года назад +1

    42:58 That’s not Wave Race 64.
    Also here’s an idea: nix the time limit and limit the content people have access to per game. There! They’re still demos, people would still have to purchase the full game, but now it wouldn’t suck and you can actually get a feel for if you like the game or not without being abruptly shut out.

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  2 года назад +1

      LOL thanks for pointing that out. I wasn’t sure if someone would or not. So, I’m pretty sure I had yoshi’s story written there in an early version of the script and forgot to change it while editing the graphics for that part. After rendering the entire video and seeing the mistake I was like, “eh, it’ll make the viewers go “hey wait a sec” or something”.
      I love that idea for a fix! No absurd time limits to jump scare and make you question what the heck you just played. Sounds great

    • @Wendy_O._Koopa
      @Wendy_O._Koopa 3 месяца назад

      @@MattTrashBoat LOL, I thought that was an intentional joke... because there's no way you could have 'accidentally' said Wave Race, since there are no Wave Race fighters. Also, I think the biggest disappointment, for me was that the games still had the time limit even if you had already purchased them. Space on the Wii was scarce, and when Sakurai made that announcement, it was a little strange, but I thought "At least I can save 32megs (or whatever) and an entire channel by playing Zelda from here." Since, _surely_ it would let you do that, and access your save files, because if buying them _didn't_ unlock them... then the mode truly _would_ be pointless. Needless to say, it did _not_ work like that. And by the WiiU, the system had so much more space, why even bother? Also, no way was I gonna buy Virtual console titles again (you were supposed to be able to transfer them, or something? but I could not get it to work).

  • @SillyDogJoe
    @SillyDogJoe 3 месяца назад

    Oh mein retro, this mode is filled with masterpiecen

  • @PickleJello
    @PickleJello 2 месяца назад

    Remember when Animal Crossing GCN gave you full NES games without any limits?

  • @diegomedina9637
    @diegomedina9637 3 месяца назад

    Some of the demo times are a bit short yeah, like 5 minutes across the board would be perfect... But 1 hour? Lmao it took me 45 minutes to beat MGSV Ground Zeroes for the first time which was 40 bucks at launch... Heck you could beat all those games at least once in a span of an hour exept for OOT and Earthbound, so what the f does that MF on that message board is suppose to do with an hour long demo of Donkey Kong? Not even Country, just the NES port of Donkey Kong Arcade. Nintendo fans really need to share that blunt because clearly they're smoking some good sh*t and they ain't sharing it.

  • @LennyQUMFIF
    @LennyQUMFIF 2 года назад

    Imma play the Brawl DK demo *97 times* while this video plays on my Switch!

  • @WannabeMarysue
    @WannabeMarysue 2 месяца назад

    the demos are advertising for full games? waoh.
    I do believe you were seven when you played this, its the only way this news could be this big a shock to you.

    • @WannabeMarysue
      @WannabeMarysue 2 месяца назад

      I wish you'd downloaded a bunch of roms when you were 8, instead of making this wet fart of a rant.

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  2 месяца назад

      I’m sorry my 8 year old self disappointed you 😢

    • @WannabeMarysue
      @WannabeMarysue 2 месяца назад

      @@MattTrashBoat i pray you found pc emulation when you were nine , and lived with joy and games in your heart.

  • @chocov1233
    @chocov1233 Месяц назад

    11:40 - The original Fire Emblem, Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light actually did eventually get an English localization that was on the Nintendo Switch eShop for like $4.99 (basically just a Virtual Console release). I bought it because I was a sucker and fell for the whole fear of missing out tactic, as it had a limited release like Super Mario 3D All-Stars. Though I will say the game is quite fun, it's my first Fire Emblem game and my first game of this type, and it has made Marth my favorite FE protagonist.
    Sadly it is not available legally in English, unless you buy a console with it pre installed (like mine) second hand, or you play the Fire Emblem 1 remake I heard about, which is on 3DS I believe.
    Here's a blurb about it I got off of Google Search: "it [Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light] was first officially localized into English and released outside of Japan on the Switch Worldwide on December 4, 2020."
    Edit: 22:07 - Oh nevermind, you already knew. :^P

  • @MashupProductions22
    @MashupProductions22 2 года назад

    I don't think anyone can beat donkey kong in 30 seconds
    Speedrunners: observe

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  2 года назад

      Okay, so your comment got me REAL curious if they could actually pull it off….but alas it’s too short even for the best.

    • @MashupProductions22
      @MashupProductions22 2 года назад

      @@MattTrashBoat not even a tas bot can do it

  • @ShimmeringVapidCoal
    @ShimmeringVapidCoal 3 месяца назад

    Why not just extract the ROMs from the game?

  • @LsAdventurer
    @LsAdventurer 2 месяца назад

    Awesome video!

  • @Gam0lfo
    @Gam0lfo 2 месяца назад

    Wtf were those sounds 6:30 6:57 ???

  • @heckYEAHman.
    @heckYEAHman. 2 года назад +531

    I have a very specific memory about Masterpieces. One day I just started playing the Kirby’s Adventure masterpiece over and over and trying to get as far as I could before it timed me out. I also ate a ton of Wild Grape Pop Tarts, which I don’t even like that much? It’s a strangely vivid, hyper-nostalgic memory, yet I wouldn’t say that it had much influence on me. I did eventually play Kirby’s Epic Yarn and I enjoyed it, but Brawl’s core gameplay was more responsible for that; haven’t played a Kirby game since.

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  2 года назад +58

      LOL the grape pop tart part got me. I get the feeling though. Sometimes those memories that have no business sticking out just do, but they're often among the best

    • @gaymer2574
      @gaymer2574 2 года назад +15

      I didn't even know they made grape pop tarts

    • @moosesues8887
      @moosesues8887 2 года назад +7

      Wtf is a grape pop tart

    • @Xenshi.
      @Xenshi. 2 года назад +15

      huh. now that i read it, brawl’s subspace is essentially a kirby game but with nintendo (and a sega) characters

    • @Autokendo17
      @Autokendo17 5 месяцев назад +5

      kirby's adventure to speedrun his adventure and get grape pop tarts

  • @nefariousaquarius2013
    @nefariousaquarius2013 3 месяца назад +231

    The reason you think “you can’t bake your cake and eat it too” is a dumb saying is because that’s not the saying. It’s “you can’t HAVE it and eat it too.” Cuz once you eat it you don’t have it anymore, it’s gone because you ate it. Changing eat to bake makes it meaningless

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP 2 месяца назад +12

      (Timestamp is 15:35 by the way)
      I've heard both before, and I always assumed the misnomer came from the concept of giving or selling the cake to someone else

    • @tsunderecat413
      @tsunderecat413 2 месяца назад +11

      i always thought the actual phrase was dumb, too, because for the longest time i was thinking of the word "have" as a synonym for "eat" (e.g. "i'm going to have steak for dinner tonight) lol

    • @ruthmcnally310
      @ruthmcnally310 2 месяца назад +10

      @@tsunderecat413 Even if you don't think of it as such, it's still a dumb saying. If you choose to have the cake rather than eating it, what the hell are you doing with it? The entire purpose of a cake is to be eaten, if you don't eat it, then the cake will just go stale, and that's just a waste of food, the ingredients used to make it, and the time and effort put into making it.

    • @susiehaltmann3342
      @susiehaltmann3342 2 месяца назад +9

      It still makes no fucking sense. Because if you’re having a cake then that would mean you’re eating it. Which makes the quote meaningless. Like cake is a food that you consume.

    • @jr.c.4250
      @jr.c.4250 2 месяца назад +5

      Think of the phrase more historically as a cake that you, a rich person, might want to display. Or a super quintuple wedding cake that tops your wedding decorations. You can't display that wedding cake and eat it at the same time. You're going to have to let go of it as a pretty display to eat it thus to have it and to eat it too is fully paradoxal

  • @ShadowHawk180
    @ShadowHawk180 2 месяца назад +111

    I think there was some kind of shift in the company mindset that occurred between Animal Crossing and the Wii Era. I remember Reggie had to fight INSANELY hard to get them to include Wii Sports with the Wii because they more or less “didn’t want to have developers work hard on a game and then disrespect those developers by giving away their game for free.”
    Of course, the masterpieces are the way they are so you feel like you have to actually buy them on the virtual console, but that “no games for free” mindset probably played a role too.
    If I’m remembering it right, Retro also wanted to include Super Metroid in with Prime as a completion bonus, but Nintendo axed it.

    • @zeddessell
      @zeddessell 2 месяца назад +30

      The reason Nintendo vetoed Super Metroid's inclusion from Prime is that it used a 3rd-party SNES emulator, and no such official emulator existed. Instead Prime's completion bonus was changed to Metroid 1, using a 1st-party official NES emulator from Nintendo (the same one used for Animal Crossing, I believe).

    • @sophitiaofhyrule
      @sophitiaofhyrule 2 месяца назад

      The idea that giving it for free disrespects the developers makes no sense once you realize that developers don't make money from sales. Like at all. This is why piracy is okay, the only people making money off sales are useless parasites in suits

    • @idontcheckmynotifications
      @idontcheckmynotifications 2 месяца назад +11

      Wow, common Reggie W

  • @saturnmunchies
    @saturnmunchies 2 месяца назад +21

    you shouldve made this video only 30 seconds long then made people pay you for the full version

  • @chimpzchimpington2006
    @chimpzchimpington2006 3 месяца назад +34

    2:22 Finally, someone acknowledges it. Words like 'masterpiece' and 'peak' are over used.

  • @runningoncylinders3829
    @runningoncylinders3829 2 года назад +69

    Demos are pretty harmless.
    The timer is too short to be enjoyable, but this is the kind of thing you look at once then not again.
    It's not a broken addition or one that makes me question why they'd dare include it.
    Just a little tab for some promo for like Wii eShop at the time.

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  2 года назад +8

      Exactly! I think it’s fun to take a deeper look into aspects about a piece of media that others only take a quick glance at. Sometimes you’ll find a bunch of stuff to talk about by doing so.

    • @eightcoins4401
      @eightcoins4401 2 месяца назад +7

      What baffles me is that the nes titles are way too dark. The wii vc titles didnt have this issue

    • @seansquiers6506
      @seansquiers6506 2 месяца назад +4

      Especially considering Smash Tour exists...

    • @DragonArbock
      @DragonArbock 2 месяца назад +5

      The problem is a) the timer was way too short to even be a proper demo, and b) a lot of the old games really should have just been playable in full, as companies like sega have included their old games as unlockables in other games, or compilations for much less than nintendo tries to desperately sell these for.

    • @rainlion10
      @rainlion10 Месяц назад

      @@seansquiers6506 Smash Tour is fun though

  • @whybother5741
    @whybother5741 3 месяца назад +26

    13:53 Now that I think about it, they probably made you choose peach because she’s the slowest character. You’d get farther in the game with a faster character, but peach ensures even your fastest gameplay won’t get you far.

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  3 месяца назад +9

      That’s a good theory 🧐 honestly I do kinda like how they “make you” play as Peach since you unlock the game through using Peach (in smash itself lol)

    • @whybother5741
      @whybother5741 3 месяца назад +8

      @@MattTrashBoat fair. You could also argue they make you play as her because it was the first game they *let* you play as her, so there is some history to back up the decision.

    • @jclkaytwo
      @jclkaytwo Месяц назад

      I'm pretty sure they chose peach because mario 2 was the very first game she was playable in. mario 2 does seem to be used by nintendo to represent peach a lot.

    • @whybother5741
      @whybother5741 Месяц назад

      @@jclkaytwo yeah what I said. That and her moveset uses some stuff from that game. (Turnips, the floating.)

  • @reloadpsi
    @reloadpsi 3 месяца назад +11

    I recall these having the most horrible input lag on the Wii U version.
    Also Zelda II is probably there because Link lifts a few moves from his Zelda II self in Smash.

  • @dmansuperich2800
    @dmansuperich2800 2 года назад +27

    I feel like Masterpieces is good idea with flawed execution. It's blatant advertising but if it was implied in a less limiting way, we could've had a memorable distraction. Part of me actually wanted them to return for Ultimate, hoping that perhaps it could be the best its ever been.
    I personally feel like them being the way they aren't wasn't Sakurai's call as his clearly has a love for retro games. Who knows what we could've gotten if Nintendo didn't try to make these VC ads. Anyways, this video was a good watch, keep it up man.

    • @diegomedina9637
      @diegomedina9637 3 месяца назад +2

      Yeah like Cloud being announced as DLC back the same year FFVII Remake was announced and Sephiroth being announced as DLC back the same year said Remake was released wasn't blatant advertising... Heck Snake in Brawl im pretty sure a trophy literally tells you to buy MGS4: Guns of the Patriots, out later this year.

  • @KetwunsGamingPad
    @KetwunsGamingPad 2 года назад +123

    What they should have done to make it actually GOOD EFFORT was allow you to beat ONE LEVEL of each...yes, that's a PROPER DEMO! One level of Mario, reach the first dungeon in the overworld of Zelda 1 and 2 (because the dungeon would be too much for a demo), complete one race in F-Zero, etc. I know it's hard to code in, but that is why they should have put more time and thinking, and understand how good demoes work. This gives players enough time to enjoy the games without feeling cheated of time! They can take their time to enjoy, and they can finish something to feel accomplished more!

    • @DoctorMario606
      @DoctorMario606 3 месяца назад +1

      Those wouldn't have been hard to code at all

    • @noahlovotti7722
      @noahlovotti7722 3 месяца назад +3

      Well you can beat oot within the time limit.

    • @CR1MSONACE
      @CR1MSONACE 3 месяца назад +2

      Let SMB1 be 2 levels, we're already really close to that.

    • @pablosolermontanos641
      @pablosolermontanos641 3 месяца назад +1

      I think that for smb1 it should be at least a world since if you are quick enough you can beat the first level

    • @Eevee860
      @Eevee860 2 месяца назад +2

      You can do all of those in the time provided, someone even beat ocarina of time in the time provided by the demo

  • @xxProjectJxx
    @xxProjectJxx 3 месяца назад +114

    Tbh, I think all this mode was trying to do was contextualize the early history of these characters. Show younger players what the older games looked, sounded and played like, but only in snippets, just long enough to give that context. They weren't trying to do real demos. I think the Masterpieces mode was fine. It was more of a mini-museum than a sample

    • @Tornado_Mang
      @Tornado_Mang 3 месяца назад +22

      I would agree to some extent, at the end of the day, it was mostly to boost sales for the virtual console. That's why Earthbound wasn't included in the western release, as we never got it until the Wii U

    • @xxProjectJxx
      @xxProjectJxx 3 месяца назад +7

      @@Tornado_Mang to be fair, weren't there legal issues with Earthbound because of its music, which is why the eventual Virtual Console release took so long and cost extra? Could have been a factor why that game wasn't in the international release as well.

    • @Magikarp-4ever
      @Magikarp-4ever 3 месяца назад +9

      How wrong you are, they was to try and get you to buy the $10-20 full version on the store lol

    • @eightcoins4401
      @eightcoins4401 2 месяца назад +9

      Even as museum I think it could be way better. Add some extra infos and maybe retain the more arcady games in full. Something like the kinami arcade collection on DS

    • @CoralCopperHead
      @CoralCopperHead 2 месяца назад

      @@Magikarp-4ever Exactly.

  • @thegtopia96
    @thegtopia96 Год назад +15

    tbh Masterpieces doesn’t even feel like a true game mode. there’s no need to include a retro game collection if those games only last for a few minutes
    it’s definitely a good thing they scrapped it from Ultimate now that i think about it

  • @cole6843
    @cole6843 2 месяца назад +8

    Why are game companies so damn greedy with old games?!

  • @TheSuperCasual2914
    @TheSuperCasual2914 2 года назад +46

    TrashBoat: "Aw yeah Ice Climber! I love this ga-!"
    Brawl: "Your free trial of fun has ended."

  • @bulb9970
    @bulb9970 3 месяца назад +10

    The time limit on Masterpieces was asinine. But as a kid that didn't know what emulation was, this was the coolest shit ever.

  • @AughOughWaugh
    @AughOughWaugh 2 года назад +88

    Literally the one memory I have of Brawl was playing Earthbound and not knowing where to go

    • @Regina-CSB
      @Regina-CSB 3 месяца назад +3

      No

    • @AughOughWaugh
      @AughOughWaugh 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Regina-CSB what????????

    • @Regina-CSB
      @Regina-CSB 3 месяца назад +5

      @@AughOughWaugh only in japanese version

    • @iLgaming334
      @iLgaming334 3 месяца назад +5

      @@Regina-CSB imports? simply speaking English as a second language??

    • @Regina-CSB
      @Regina-CSB 3 месяца назад +2

      @@iLgaming334 not him.

  • @LITTLE1994
    @LITTLE1994 2 года назад +18

    It is indeed lame, because they're only weak Wii or Wii U Virtual Console versions under mixed saved files/moments and very limited gameplay. Plus, they really could've picked better games, and some they put in aren't even real masterpiece titles. They're pointless, especially if you own the actual physical release classic games.
    Funny video, though!

    • @beauwalker9820
      @beauwalker9820 3 месяца назад

      Balloon Fight will always be a masterpiece to me.

  • @PeiceofNick
    @PeiceofNick 3 месяца назад +34

    Fun Fact: The Japanese verison of Brawl's Masterpeices has Earthbound as an exclusive game.
    In facts in the only way to play Earthbound on thr wii since it never saw a real re-release on Wii Virtual Console.

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP 2 месяца назад +3

      Wait, but these were meant to be in-game advertisements, so why did they include it then?!

    • @neo1711
      @neo1711 2 месяца назад +11

      This fun fact was literally pointed out in the video

  • @drrichardew7878
    @drrichardew7878 2 года назад +48

    Oh man, I still remember buying a classic controller ONLY so I could try the masterpieces... and I got exposed to legendary games like starfox 64 and ocarina of time, so I'd say it was a good purchase.
    Funny enough it did also subject me to super metroid, but I never knew it would become one of my favorite games ever waaaaay later lol

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  2 года назад +7

      Nice to know it did some good! Also, sorry but buying a controller just to play the short demos is pretty funny to me haha.

    • @drrichardew7878
      @drrichardew7878 2 года назад +5

      @@MattTrashBoat well I was also the kid who bought Mario Galaxy bc he couldn't unlock rosalina in Mario kart lol

    • @Wendy_O._Koopa
      @Wendy_O._Koopa 3 месяца назад

      @@drrichardew7878 What, I don't remember her being any trouble... wasn't she available from the start? Lemme google something real quick: "Rosalina can be unlocked by having a save file of Super Mario Galaxy; have 4,950 races; or having at least one star on all the Mirror Mode cups." ...oh. Well there's your problem, Mario Galaxy is one of the best games ever made, surpassed only by Mario Galaxy 2, and Mario Odyssey, and a dozen other Mario titles... the point is you should have owned it already.

    • @jclkaytwo
      @jclkaytwo Месяц назад

      ​​@@Wendy_O._Koopamario galaxy has not been surpassed. not even by galaxy 2, odyssey, or a dozen other mario titles

  • @Serious5GamingS5G
    @Serious5GamingS5G 2 года назад +8

    "get off the internet you eight year old"
    I feel personally attacked since I never had the chance to get the game nor even had control if I could get the game or not

  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 2 месяца назад +5

    Nothing like honoring the legacy of iconic video game franchises by giving the player a 30 second advertisement. 😓

  • @SonicTheCutehog
    @SonicTheCutehog 2 года назад +87

    The time limits had to be included so people would buy the games on the Virtual Console. If they had the full games playable, then there would be no point for the player to buy them.

    • @ethanhobbes3476
      @ethanhobbes3476 Год назад +37

      The problem is that the time limits are too little to even form an opinion on the games.

    • @jatarokemuri5443
      @jatarokemuri5443 Год назад +18

      Plus, couldn’t they just let you play a tiny segment of the game instead?

    • @JSRFModCentral
      @JSRFModCentral 10 месяцев назад +18

      So? Smash ultimate is a $60 game. God forbid Nintendo bundles in a few of their old ass games into it as a bonus lol

    • @SwagMush
      @SwagMush 3 месяца назад +3

      bro we get a minute to play mario.

    • @beauwalker9820
      @beauwalker9820 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@JSRFModCentral nowadays compared to PS5 games Triple-A, and such $60 is considered "cheap."
      It wouldn't make much sense to put in a bunch of retro games in, as those might distract some players from playing SSB itself.
      Probably why Animal Crossing no longer has playable NES games.

  • @Deley18
    @Deley18 2 месяца назад +5

    Me personally, while I do get why the time limits were there as to get everyone to buy them via the shop, where I draw the line is the fact that this arbitrary limitation aged really poorly by today's standards.
    For Brawl and Smash 4, the console's shop to buy the games is well into its extinction, the time limit now only serves as one ginormous tease.
    I cannot help but shake the fact that these are indeed full ROMs of games that are crammed into Smash.
    Would it be too much to ask for had the time limit not been present? Sure, the price for that would be very high, but it would've been a cool thing to play the full games in Smash and have that be a bragging moment at a party.
    Person 1: "Name one impressive accomplishment you've done back in the day."
    Person 2: "I beat Super Mario Bros. The Lost Levels without using warps from Masterpiece Mode on Super Smash Bros. 4."

  • @pileofboxes
    @pileofboxes 2 года назад +31

    Hey man! I love your content! This is my first video, and I am already hooked! I can tell you are going to go places! It may be a month, it may be a year, but i can tell you will gain the recognition you deserve! Can''t wait to see more from you! :)

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  2 года назад +5

      Thanks! While I'm not specifically making content to be recognized per se I do hope I'll get a bit more viewers one day haha. BUT I gotta make sure I have content worth watching ya know

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP 2 месяца назад

      But how did you already love their content if this is the first content from them you've ever experienced? 🤔

  • @liammcnicholas918
    @liammcnicholas918 2 года назад +7

    Wonder if someone ever did a glitched run of Mario 64 on the Masterpieces mode

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  2 года назад +4

      Mario 64 sadly was never included :( BUT I realllly wish it was because I would assume they'd drop you off inside the castle to run around for a few mins (prob 3-4 at most) which actually wouldn't be quite enough time to beat the game with boundary breaking, but still would be fun regardless

    • @liammcnicholas918
      @liammcnicholas918 2 года назад +2

      @@MattTrashBoat Really? I thought it was due to Ocarina of Time being in there. My bad

  • @cosmicgem7775
    @cosmicgem7775 2 года назад +10

    Great video! I the first time I discovered this mode on brawl back in the day. Spend a couple hours on it but that was nothing like that coin launcher mode, I spend a whole day playing that lol. You have earned my sub, I can’t wait to watch more of your videos!

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  2 года назад +2

      Coin launcher mode is actually so addicting! Also thanks for the sub :)

    • @cosmicgem7775
      @cosmicgem7775 2 года назад +2

      @@MattTrashBoat no problem! Thank you for making this great video

  • @LoganV3535
    @LoganV3535 Год назад +15

    I liked the masterpiece mode, if for nothing else, than because of earthbound. Yeah, the 5 minute demo doesn’t even give you enough time to get to the first battle. But it’s that demo that put earthbound on my radar at all.

  • @Vitorio582
    @Vitorio582 3 месяца назад +9

    This ain't Smash Tour

  • @elitobin
    @elitobin 2 года назад +8

    I forgot about this mode until i saw somebody beat Oot in it 💀

  • @opadrip
    @opadrip 2 месяца назад +2

    Sakurai makes great games but makes the dumbest decisions sometimes.

  • @cloamker2533
    @cloamker2533 2 года назад +8

    I remember just playing the legend of Zelda demo over and over and over, along with the kid Icarus one a few times and also the ice climbers a little, and the Kirby one too.

  • @matthewmcsweeney5996
    @matthewmcsweeney5996 Год назад +5

    The Masterpieces are waste of time. I remember in Gameking53's review of Super Smash Bros. Brawl where he criticized them for being a waste of time and that there's no fun you can have with them before the limit runs out. He'd change it by removing it in favor of more Melee stages and even stages from the first game.

    • @TheNadroj10
      @TheNadroj10 2 месяца назад

      He had good points, I would have removed all of them for the missing 64 and melee stages

  • @BROJANGSTER
    @BROJANGSTER 3 месяца назад +12

    scott the woz has made people too comfortable with the idea of stretching out a simple topic like “this mode is bad because the demo times are too short” to over half an hour 🤣🤣

    • @BROJANGSTER
      @BROJANGSTER 3 месяца назад +1

      i guess this video’s over a year old, so maybe this guy was ahead of the curve

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  3 месяца назад +8

      No, I still make stretched out videos about simple topics! :)

    • @BROJANGSTER
      @BROJANGSTER 3 месяца назад +1

      @@MattTrashBoat that’s based and epic 👍👍

  • @dazedheart9006
    @dazedheart9006 2 года назад +4

    Masterpieces are good for when Smash is one of your first ganes
    The time still needs to be extended, though. Seriously!? Only 30 seconds!?

  • @SwagMush
    @SwagMush 3 месяца назад +1

    Master pieces are a freaking tease. Such a sleezeball way of advertising the wii shop, like come on dude animal crossing had nes games, you couldnt give us freakin ice climbers. for christ sake we get 1 MINUTE to play mario

  • @ArcherFromFateStayNight
    @ArcherFromFateStayNight 2 года назад +3

    Good video but I just want to make a comment on how weak the delivery was on the "the joke is misogyny" segment. I don't even understand the punchline either but that delivery with the cartoon sound effects was just confusing. Otherwise this is insanely well done and I can't wait for more documentary - Scott the woz like videos that I wish I saw done more by other people.

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  2 года назад

      Fair enough! I'll be honest I just kinda wanted to do the sped up dance meme thing, so that caption was kind of an afterthought. A bit of an anti-joke if you will. Thanks though! I will say that not all of my future videos will be exactly like this, but this type of content is my main shtick so I hope you stick around for those :D

  • @bloorb0569
    @bloorb0569 Месяц назад +1

    "Get off the internet you eight year old"
    IM TURNING 19 IN 2 DAYS WHAT THE FUCK

  • @GaybrohamStinkton
    @GaybrohamStinkton 2 месяца назад +2

    It would have been really funny if Mother 3 was what they chose. Either for Japan only, or globally

  • @Faniwa828
    @Faniwa828 2 месяца назад +3

    Did you know that there's an NES in Animal Crossing that can run almost ANY NES game? To normal players it's useless. But if you're a hacker, it can run roms that you "put into it".

    • @rhyano_
      @rhyano_ 2 месяца назад

      Watch the video before saying things bro

    • @Faniwa828
      @Faniwa828 2 месяца назад +2

      @@rhyano_ I did. Didn't he just talk about the individual NES games (like Mario Bros, Ice Climbers, etc)

  • @KetwunsGamingPad
    @KetwunsGamingPad 2 года назад +3

    I suppose making the masterpieces "unlimited" time without saves is like playing reproduction carts with non functioning save batteries ha (excluding the external save storage solutions).

  • @eightcoins4401
    @eightcoins4401 2 месяца назад +1

    I honestly dont understand why they decided on the timer. It woukd have been really easy to just include the first level in games seperated into levels.
    All Zelda games would have worked if they just were the first dungeon
    Super Metroid woukd have worked if it starts normally but lets you go up to Norfair but ends once you enter Kraids Lair
    The original metroid would have only needed Brinstar, with the Norfair Elevator room booting you out

  • @coolerspook2689
    @coolerspook2689 2 года назад +4

    This video is phenomenal - this feels a lot higher quality than the views may suggest, I hope the algorithm picks you up :)

  • @mrborif4245
    @mrborif4245 2 года назад +3

    Looked at the subscribe box and saw “301 subscribers” and thought I was seeing things lmao. Keep up videos like this and you’ll take off in no time I’m sure of it

  • @Nin10doh98
    @Nin10doh98 3 месяца назад +2

    did you seriously make a 48 minute video about something that should only be a footnote? i hate this website
    why didn’t you actually live up to the title and talk about how terrible smash tour is

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  3 месяца назад

      Yes 😈

    • @KingOfDarknessAndEvil
      @KingOfDarknessAndEvil 2 месяца назад

      That's what's cool about youtube. I was annoyed by this as a kid, so its cathartic to hear someone roast it for nearly an hour

    • @KingOfDarknessAndEvil
      @KingOfDarknessAndEvil 2 месяца назад

      Ok, on second thought, this is actually worse than smash tour. Seriously. A collection of 30 second ads for decade old games is definitely worse than the admittedly poorly made smash tour. At least there's *some* fun value in that mode

  • @LunaMinuna
    @LunaMinuna 2 года назад +3

    The most annoying part is that you need a certain controller to Play some of the game that was annoying
    Brawl is my favorite smash game, and the game I played the most was a bit of Kirby, and a lot of Zelda 1 but never beat it

  • @Sly88Frye
    @Sly88Frye 3 месяца назад

    40:51 I knew the year that Kirby's Dreamland 3 came out because I actually played it back then when it was brand new. What I find to be a much bigger surprise is that Kirby's Adventure came out for the NES 2 years into the SNES being out internationally and three years into its original Japanese console version the Super famicom. I mean only a year after Kirby's Adventure came out was the Japanese release of the PS1 and the Sega Saturn.
    It seemed back then Kirby had a knack to come out for consoles late in their lifespan or even consoles of the current generations predecessors. I mean even Kirby 64 in the crystal shards came out in 2000 and by then the Sega Dreamcast was in America for a year and the Gamecube was only coming out a year after Kirby 64.

  • @meminggamer42069
    @meminggamer42069 2 года назад +4

    World of light wasn't perfect by any means, but I don't think it's even close to being one of the worst modes in smash, was it that badly received?

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  2 года назад +1

      ehhh whenever I hear someone discussing it, its usually in a not so favorable light. Calling it one of the worst modes throughout the entire series may be a bit harsh, but personally I think it's incredibly tedious and boring, so much so that I haven't even finished it lol. I think my biggest gripe with it is that it's a spiritual successor to Subspace Emissary, which I have my own dislikes about that mode, but I feel as though there's a lot more to enjoy with that package compared to World of Light.

  • @omicron3012
    @omicron3012 2 месяца назад +1

    In the gamecube port of Sonic adventure, you can unlock classic Sonic games from the Game gear era. That was back in 2004 and guess what, you had access to the full games, no restriction, no timer, no BS. I swear, Nintendo has no shame.

  • @Maloz-se1rf
    @Maloz-se1rf 2 года назад +3

    I remember playing oot and just running around talking to people while forgetting about the timer

  • @cubecat9493
    @cubecat9493 2 месяца назад +1

    smash 4 shouldve had an animal crossing gamecube masterpiece, that would drop you into a house with all the nes roms, inception like. give you 3 minutes to be fair

  • @rivets5445
    @rivets5445 2 года назад +5

    I love this editing, I hope the algorithm blesses this channel

    • @MattTrashBoat
      @MattTrashBoat  2 года назад

      Well it def did something for this video haha I am shocked! Thanks though I appreciate ya :D

  • @lvl5Vaporeon
    @lvl5Vaporeon 2 года назад +2

    This video is actually really really good and I want to say that I want the all mighty algorithm to give it a chance!

  • @hadesKIU
    @hadesKIU 3 месяца назад +1

    Imagine a world where buying Smash Bros also purchased evey one of those masterpiece games in full.
    That would be a very expensive game, but it'd be the only one you ever need.

  • @mirabilis
    @mirabilis 2 месяца назад +1

    I couldn't care less about Smash Bros. Also, Peach is the best character in SMB2.

    • @LoginJ
      @LoginJ 2 месяца назад

      Then why'd you click on a Smash Bros. video?