World Series Baseball Retrospective and Review ** Sega Genesis - 32X **
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Episode 6 - Part 2 of an in-depth review for baseball game series that had a release on the 32X. This episode covers World Series Baseball. We will look over every game in the series that was released on a cartridge, and talk about changes that were made. RBI Baseball was covered in part one.
Original hardware is always used when capturing console footage.
::::: Episode System Hardware Breakdown::::
- Model 1 Sega Genesis
- Sega 32X
-The Original Analogue NT
MAME was used to capture the arcade footage.
Gameplay footage is Captured using:
RBG and Component via the Framemeister to the Elgato HD 60
The Original Analogue NT to the Elgato HD 60
World Series on the Game Gear stole so much of my time while riding in the car on vacation. I still wake up with that music in my head.
Crazy how games and their music can make an impact like that.
fun fact: the sports talk commentary was recorded by an actual sports commentator, Lonny simmons. the encoding work was dun by Electronic speech systems, one of the earlyest suppliers of speech chips. ESS had previously helped with some of the most iconic pieces of synthetic speech, from Evil otto's death threts from Berzerk to the voice of Elven Atombender from impossible mission on the c64.
Thanks for sharing.
Aww, I was hoping you'd cover the Saturn WSB, loved that game even though I'm British and the sport is totally lost on me. :D
Larry Bundy Jr - Saturn and the Arcade release
@@PhillyCYOSports wow I didn't know there was an Arcade release. Thx
Yeah, I can't help but think of the Saturn when I think of that series.
Pretty awesome that you loved that game. I wouldn't expect a Brit to enjoy a baseball game. (Hell, even many Americans just think baseball is a dumb, boring sport, although I guess PLAYING it is a little different than just watching it.)
@@rars0n Well, Baseball isn't too far off Cricket in terms of rules and objectives, so it's pretty easy to get the hold of.
But for me, its one of those sports more fun to play than to watch... like Cricket.
For me sega Saturn and Dreamcast was the systems where World Series baseball got its upgrades, World Series 95 on the 32x only had minor color tweaks and that zoom in which most people didn’t enjoy. The greatest part is World Series baseball lived up until the ps2/Xbox versions of the game 2k3 , then it was converted as the last sega version for 2k4 or ESPN baseball 2004 and then to Major League Baseball 2k5 made by take two interactive before turning it over to 2k sports in 2k6 until it’s death on 2k13 when 2k lost its license rights. To this day I don’t know why 2k didn’t get a license for just Nintendo or Xbox cause they allowed that type of licensing under Sony’s exclusive contract. I’m a huge baseball gaming nerd and enjoyed hearing you talk about the games for rbi and World Series. I ended up selling off my World Series 95 years ago when I saw that it’s value was so high and I wasn’t extremely fond of that version of the game.
I really loved this game, I still play it from time to time.
In its day I absolutely Loved the original WSB And its sequels. They were the best simulation style games of their time. I don't think they aged well at all but most retro sports games don't unless they are arcade style. Sports Talk Baseball for example I can still have fun with. Lastly I suggest you try Triple Play Baseball 96 or Gold on Genesis. I never knew played them until a few years ago but I would say the EA did a great job with those games for the time.
Thanks for the comment, I'll check those out for sure. Did you ever play RBI '93 or '94? If so, how does it compare to Triple Play?
Only thing I really remember about this series I want to say 1995, was when you hit a home run you did like cartwheels and kissed the crowd running the bases at a snail's pace. I thought it was fun the first time I did it but it got really old after every home run. Love the video glad I found a few years after you posted it.
Thanks! I really need to work on a new Sports Retrospective.
@@Jenovi I haven't checked too closely but did you do the EA sports Tony LaRussa/MVP Baseball series? I still to this day play MVP 2005 as to me it is the best for its time and holds a special place in my heart.
I really enjoy World Series Baseball and World Series Baseball '95 both on the Genesis. They're great games. Never cared for World Series Baseball starring Deion Sanders for the 32X though, they call it that because Sega wanted Deion Sanders to be the face of Sega Sports back in 1995, hence we got Prime Time NFL Football Starring Deion Sanders for the Genesis (the fifth installment of the Sega Sports NFL series (formerly known as the Joe Montana football series until NFL '95)) and World Series Baseball starring Deion Sanders for the 32X.
I appreciate this review comparing these games. One thing not mentioned, which may be obvious but I really enjoyed, was all the enhanced controls you had at your disposal. I don't remember any other Genesis games that allowed you to set how your infield defense was setup and how your outfielders were set. With a runner on first, I'd set the infielders to Double Play shift, try to force a ground ball and hope for the 6-4-3 double play. Control of the runners felt better in these games compared to any others, and for that matter control over the defenders waa better than any other baseball game on the Genesis.
These games were very slow, but they could be a lot of fun if you were a baseball nerd. They had Hall of Fame teams which were unheard of. How cool was it to play as Babe Ruth!
World Series Baseball on the (SEGA Saturn) are easily my favorite baseball games, even compared to current-gen console baseball games.
They just felt right, a perfect mix between sim and arcade, and you were able to get a good read on the ball as a batter.
SwankeyMonkey I never had a chance to play the ones in the series released after the 32X. Been thinking about picking them up as they cost nearly nothing, and I see them everywhere I go.
Definitely worth it.
They found their stride with the new hardware, bringing everything into the game they had originally intended with the better tech.
Very accessible game to play also-- My niece, who started playing softball and is very proficient, I had introduced her to this baseball videogame I grew up playing, and she dove right in easily and mastered the game. I had to laugh when the (great voice audio and commentary) announced to bat some of the baseball greats of that era, and she was intrigued who these sluggers were they announced with excitement.
Also has a lot of game modes, functions and options, and allows you to change things in the game to your liking. And it's a really good versus-play game, especially the Homerun Derby for the ultra-competitive trash-talkers.
Definitely pick them up, they are worth it, especially for the price that you can get them.
@@Jenovioh wow. WSB 2 on Saturn is still playable today. My fav BB game of that era. Still gets played regularly.
For the time these are the best. The thing I like most is that they play like a real game. They have foul balls, slow hits, fast hits, known home runs and some you don't know until they go. It is a lot like a real game, unlike modern games I have played that make the baseball like a rocket, and don't have foul balls on simulation. The only part I do not like is that players are bound to their stats and like fantasy baseball power is what matters more than defense or clutch hitting.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I certainly feel Sega was well ahead of the curve when creating fantastic sports simulations.
It always bugged me when baseball games would use the next year after their release as the title, Football, Basketball & Hockey can at least say their season ends in that year (Like Madden 20 was released in 2019, but the superbowl is in 2020, NBA 2K20 released in 2019, but season ends in 2020) so baseball to me never made sense, I believe that trend ended by the late 2000s as the baseball games now are back to being titles for the year they are released (Like MLB The Show 20 this year)
Fully agree. It drives me nuts.
'95 was a substantial upgrade to the original WSB in that a full statistical model was added to the game. WSB '96 looks and sounds very much like '95, but it plays quite differently because hitting prowess was drastically and unrealistically toned-downed across the board. You're forced to play "small-ball" in '96, but the controls and mechanics of WSB just aren't suited to that style of gameplay, making '96 the poorest-playing installment in the series. '98 turned the hitting back up, though not to '95 levels.
Very interesting observation, thanks for sharing.
Super interesting. I may have to go for 95' . I was trying to decide which one to get. All the sports talk is nice in the original though, but I do like the step up in graphics in 95.
actually i may have to go with 98' .. i just noticed 96' and 98' use the same player announcer from the 32X just lower quality, but better than 95' that doesn't have any sports talk at all. 96' and 98' do just not as much as the original.
Edit.. I just sat down to play more 95 and the voice from 96 and 98 is there. Some reason one of the save states I've been using the voice cut out and never came back lol.. So nevermind about 95 having less talking than 96 and 98..
This was by far my favorite baseball series of all time. Shit on it all you want today lmao but this was THE MFN BOMB when it came out.
The Saturn version was probably most of my memory with it. My brother and I would always go at it with the Home Run Contest.
Sega really was tops with their sports games.
Blue Sky always did a good job! 😎
Let's agree to disagree. Worlds Seies Baseball 95 batting was much easier than 96. 96 and 98 batting was to difficult to to play for me. But 95 was just right and I loved the game overall.
deion* 6:21 =)
no more continues I noticed that too lol. He said Barry.
Nico Toscani I had a special page of cards with Deion Sanders and bo Jackson, featuring both baseball and football cards lol. Him saying Barry sanders made me think of Bo Jackson as well lol
😂 whoops.
*Bernie
This is great. I just got into retro baseball games. Lots of fun. Just picked up a physical copy of Tommy Lasorda, it's the one baseball game I had back in the day so I'm very nostalgic and it plays pretty well. I've been testing others for the 1st time via emulation. Gunna add a few more to the collection. I'd say your breakdown here is very accurate. Thx
I still play this series often. I like the 98 all time greats teams but I hate that the crowd noise as bad as it is just cuts out in 98 and it's totally silent intermittently! It's still fun imo.
Can’t believe absolutely no mention of how on fly balls to the outfield EVERY stadium would become Jack Murphy Stadium. Been wondering for 30 years what the hell that was all about.
I have a dedicated World Series: The Season cab in my home arcade (most were conversions, but I got lucky and found a dedicated cab). Great, great bar/arcade game...only pitch and bat...don't have to worry about fielding while you are downing some brewskies in your local sports bar or softball complex!
Sega Sports got REALLY LAZY after 1994. The Joe Montana series starting with NFL ‘95 were just glorified roster updates. Same with the World Series Baseball series. It really sucked if you plunked down $$$ for those titles. Eventually EA followed suit with NBA Live, Madden and the NHL series as well. My guess is the focus on the then next gen PS1, N64 and Saturn had something to do with that.
On the Genesis baseball game WSB you can’t move in the batters box but you can increase your difficulty which allows you to have a batting cursor indicating the barrel of your bat, and you can adjust pitch speed to more realistic levels. It greatly increases the playability and realism.
Also, your commentary from the announcer sounds totally different. Weird.
Is that only on the original WSB or did later versions have it? I am hoping for analog control ROM hack someday and this sounds like it would work well with that idea.
I don't normally like wood on walls, but that's a nice-looking room right there!
That's 1" marine plywood covered in metal on the outside. It's a horse barn.
As much as you didn't like the WSB games they were the true simulation at the time. Baseball is a boring sport at times and these games cover this well. The fundamentals and rules were in the games.Try pulling a double switch in any other game. Remove your DH and see what happens when your pitcher has to bat. These are things that the other games were missing. WSB paid attention to every detail of the game including the boring aspects. I do agree though the inclusion of the sports talk feature makes the first game in the series the best one.
Blue sky? Didnt they had something to do with 32X Spiderman?
That’s them. Also Vector Man, Shadow Run (Gen), and that Superman game they just discovered.
Oh man the flop "The expectation that this game was going to have something to do with...Barry Sanders"
It's still baffling to this day.
How do you control/advance the baserunners on the original? I used to LOVE this game as a kid. I recently got it again cause I got nostalgic. I can't seem to figure out how to advance the baserunners or steal. I'm even thinking maybe I got a bad ROM, but everything else works fine. I;ve gotten them to move here and there, but can't seem to do it consistently, I can't find anything online about it. It's so annoying when you get a clear double or maybe even a triple and the douchebag stops like an idiot on first or just stands there until the ball hits the ground on a line drive that will clearly not be caught
It’s a pain. Use the d pad to select the runner.. Next the base you want to head to. Controls are A go back b advance c slide X Y and Z are different slides as well.
It would be nice if the Nintendo switch had these baseball games such a classic
All their classic sports games coming to the Switch would be a massive win for consumers.
Too many licenses to happen. People are still updating rosters for old sports games though. You could play on emulation at least or real hardware with a flash cart.
Thanks for the video bro I have a couple of these games and when they came out I loved the evolution of what what they became, but I was always curious why the Deon Sanders 32x version was so expensive?
It's because the 32X version was the second to last game released on the system. It actually released after the system was canceled. As you can imagine, not a ton of copies were made.
I remember all the talk back in the 90's that WSB was the premiere baseball game. Wasn't much of a sports game fan, but I did have a curiosity, as there were always exceptions to be found. My first experience with the Series was WSB 2 on Saturn. I really enjoyed that game to my surprise, but did not like 98 on Saturn. WSB 2K2 on DC was just ok imo. I did own the 32X version for awhile, and was sorely disappointed that it resembled the Genesis games so much with only a slight extra splash of color and the scaling effect. I was anticipating the CD version, that I always saw advertised, but judging by the rest of the series' early days, we didn't miss anything. Still haven't played the 16 or 8-bit versions, but I don't particularly care to anymore either.
You're not missing much.l
Would have loved coverage of World Series 99 Arcade only release. Incredible game and then when it came to dreamcast...it was the worst
I might come back and cover the Saturn and Dreamcast released down the road.
Only sports game I own WS 95 oh and FIFA
Thanks for checking this out. I will be covering Fifa much like I did the RBI series from the start until the 32X.
The craziest thing about the 32X version to me is how slow the pitching is. Doesn't ruin the game. If anything makes it easier.. But damn is it slow.
One positive in the sound department is that it has the best announcer. Too bad the audience sounds terrible. But listen with headphones and you'll hear the 32X chip is used for the announcer. Much cleaner than 95' and it has a stereo reverb fading effect making it sound like you're in a stadium with fading echos bouncing right and left. Beyond what a Genesis can do alone. Genesis can't fade or do reverb on samples so they showed off the hardware a bit. Too bad they didn't put the same effort into the audience.
Never knew that Sega licensed the Madden engine for the first Joe Montana game. That blows my mind.
I like the Madden games, never played Montana.
Seems like all the old 80s and 90s baseball games I've played have had some annoying faults. Either in gross balance problems in some aspect of the game, or rules not applied correctly, or broken fielding. I've started to play some of my old baseball games recently but I'm surprised how sloppy the genre generally was back then. I guess I didn't notice as much when I was a kid.
In addition to wanting a balanced, well playing game, now I also want season play with statistics tracking and battery save. I should probably grab some of the World Series Baseball games, and maybe the Hardballs also. I don't have any members of those series, maybe I'll like them.
I can definitely do without the "announcer" gimmick. I don't even like listening to national media real life announcers, I sure don't want to listen to a robot telling me jersey numbers and everywhere I've thrown the ball. Maybe we could have 3 robots making overanalytical small talk after every pitch and laughing at each other's jokes, like on ESPN. That might actually be funny.
I get really pulled into sports games, especially when there's multi season play. Can you build up a crap team? Can you sustain a good one? It's all rather addictive. Appreciate the commit.
Wow. You gave WSB on genesis 4/10. You have immediately lost all credibility as a retro sports game critic. WSB on genesis is an absolute classic, and was truly appreciated by us avid sports sim fans who grew up with it back in the day.
WRONG. World Series Baseball 95 was one of the best baseball games. I don't even like baseball, and I liked that game. Played it for hours.
This is driving me nuts. I gotta ask. I figured out Jaguar, Genesis, Neo Geo, Odyssey(?), is that Vectrex? And the I, what is that? I know the S is for the SNES. Really nice touch, I never noticed that before.
Oh man, that's the old logo. I is Intellivision. I also think you're the only person to figure that out. At least the only person to let/ask me.
@@Jenovi I am a huge fan, thanks so much! So my other guesses were correct?
BTW I really like that old logo! Makes a discerning eye think!
@@rars0n Spot on.
Original Joe Montana Football is the best game on sega genesis and i still play it regularly.
It really is a great game.
Best game?? Are you trying to start a fight? LOL
Some good infos, just subbed. But why do you display in a square format? It looks awful and is not nearly as pleasant as proper 4:3 format.
It’s a bit complicated how it happened, but the long and short of it is a setting was messed up causing the issue on upload. I didn’t notice because it’s only on the upload end. It effects everything from episode 3-17. It’s now fixed.
@@Jenovi Good to hear that it's fixed. 4:3 for the win! :)
On 2nd game and later you see more of the batter with better quality sprites, mostly off-screen and very blocky in first game. On 32X you see even more colors / better looking digitization. Still disappointing especially with bad sound and tiny sprites for fielders and base runners. So there is more than nothing but not much.
Wow, very disappointing. What would you recommend for two or three of the best baseball games for the Sega Genesis?
I guess it depends on what you're looking for. These are likely as good as it gets for Sim style. Outside of that, RBI is my fav.
@@Jenovi thank you.
So its just like madden then.....
I could never hit the ball no further than 498 ft, I tried soooo hard to hit at least 500 ft on WS 95 and 96 😂🤣
Interesting. I wonder if it was possible. 🤔
Terrible games easy to Master 🤓
A couple errors on your chart. RBI baseball says "1998" instead of '88. MLBPA Baseball was also released for Genesis.