Time Team S20-E12 The Time Team Guide to Experimental Archaeology
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- Опубликовано: 26 мар 2013
- Tony Robinson celebrates the more than 150 practical experiments and re-creations that he and the Team have conducted over 20 years in order to unlock the mysteries exposed by their digs.
Rebuilding - and even reliving - the past is a controversial area of archaeology. But it's one that Time Team has long championed, and one that has yielded some amazing results.
This programme revisits some of the programme's greatest hits, from recreating individual objects such as Stone Age axes, Roman pewter bowls, medieval pottery and a Stone Age sword that throws new light on the myth of King Arthur's Excalibur, to building an entire Iron Age house and a Roman machine that lifted water from a deep well.
The programme also revisits some of Time Team's forays into living history, from finding out what it felt like to be in Dad's Army to surviving 24 hours as a Victorian prisoner, in an attempt to see the past through our ancestors' eyes.
Plus how a huge and - at times - contentious experiment for the programme finally solved the riddle of Seahenge.
I loved this but was a trifle surprised that we didn't catch Phil knapping.
This compilation is genius. I might have seen all the "builds" in the previous episodes, but grouping them together makes another statement. I love the sense of mystery about it all--and these three men show great reverence for our ancestors. Love it!!
I love your show, the royal family, the wonderful people and your history. Your prodigal son the USA love and esteem you. Thank you.
I love this series and thank all team members through the years. I particular love the episodes under the supervision of Mick Aston, who was way ahead of his time, far-seeing and inclusive without dogma or convention really swaying him. Best of all he wasn't really into theories but enlivened trench digging with imagination based on what was really found. This is so rare in science. So sorry for his passing in 2013: we miss you, Mick Aston.
a brilliant mind indeed; RIP
The police Sgt. who played the jailer not only looked the part, but his every gesture made me believe he could have guarded Oscar Wilde at Reading Gaol.
This is why I love and enjoy TT so much, because they offer us living perspectives, food for thought and all wrapped up in a cheerful package. thank you friends.
Tony's opening comment of can we understand the past? I think the only way we could possibly totally comprehind the times past we would effectively have to be able to forget everything that has happened since and live it as it was in it's day. Everything they find was once the lateset, greatest, cutting edge items on the market.
to the person who runs this channel, thank you so much for posting all of this fantastic show
This series and the various experimental archeology bits has taught us so much and honors our ancestors, their lives, their creativity and hard work. It gives us a deeper understanding of and appreciation for their ways of life. Then I look at modern day societies and our abuse of each other and the environment and our constant production of more and more junk that overflows the landfills, and I believe our ancestors would be ashamed of us. They were smarter than us.
Especially brilliant episode from an incredible series!Time Team's efforts in reconstructing and comprehending the vital skills of our ancestors has lent the modern world a true appreciation for their countless contributions.If Mum and Dad took their tots to a museum and only let the tikes stare at each exhibit,we'd have far less depth of understanding then the hands-on reproductions these wonderful folks have created.Loads of respect for them all!Cheers and thanks for the uploads!
Thanks so much for posting.
Matt was always such a trooper with all the stuff they made him go through in these episodes... and then there was that one time they picked Jim instead... and he went through hell, poor guy! :(
I can't watch that episode, it is far too painful. Once was enough.
Jim's experience as a prisoner reminded me of an experiment that occurred many years ago. A group of college students were divided into two groups. One group were the other group were guards. The experiment was suspended when very shortly the guards literally became torturers. Just scratch the surface of any human and you will find a brute.
What a brilliant episode.
A strange thing about the last two series is that there were so few prehistoric sites investigated. This recap reminds me that the prehistoric-themed programs were often the most compelling.
graham lester And those were my favorites too.
Francis Pryor's right - part of the purpose of archaeology is that it is also a behavioural science.
ya dude... that's why they used half an episode to show the recreation.... That's what they were obviously saying for 20 years.. very astute..
One of the best series of all time. I hope the archeologist at 7:28 went on to have a good career, that was quite the episode as far as those type of recreations go, that guard / prisoner combo was intense it's as though they became the parts, Matt's recreations are great to watch too, they seem like Matt going into a role as someone today looking at things in perspective, where this prison one was like they were going back in time without knowledge of today for a while and coming back with the memories gained, it was hardcore, especially when the other team members were watching. 26:00 People can't believe what others can do by hand when they haven't been around top level craftspeople, spend some time in France or Italy around people who make quality stuff, and go to their technology museums, then you would totally believe they were making that stuff with high a quality in ancient times.
Thanks you for this awesome episode.
R.I.P Mic Aston
To the creativity of our ancestors… 🥂(tink)
A wonderful episode!
Phil & Stewart & john from geophys are my favorites
How very brilliant! Thank you, Reijer for uploading the one episode I stupidly missed.
This is a good one
Has Tony been given an honorary degree? After being a part of the show for 20 seasons he has to have learned a thing or two about archeology.
Found this > ruclips.net/video/Miqcq5ice1Q/видео.html
Very nice!
brilliant!
Great show thanks for the upload!! RIP Mick..
The Sergeant turned out to be a very good actor :)
I just happened upon this segment (I watch Time Team a lot, but not in any order). I wonder if whoever set up the prisoner re-enactment (for lack of a better word) was aware of the Stanford prison experiment in the US in the 70's?
Now, I don't know what the Home Guard's grooming standards were like, but, I'm pretty sure Phil's hair wouldn't have been allowed.
Phil were of course given dispensation for his long hair, on behalf of his excellent archeologic and inter-personal skills.. On the other hand, his short denim pants are blacklisted.
I find it amazing that all through civilization man did not discover that a sword with a serrated edge is ten time sharper
But wouldn't that have way more points of weakness in surviving strikes and blows?
@@user-hy7zb2vl3t I think there is something about serrated edge swords from then. Let's hear from others about it.
My favorite part is when the hippie says understanding the henge on an intellectual level would be useless while not understanding it on any level.
I have a Norman ancestor that fought in the battle of Hastings in 1066.
Imagine some time a bit far from now in the future people find these recreations and think we used to be like that instead of us recreating something from long ago, that's very unlikely because of all the existing discoveries but you never know, only time will tell.
I think the most basic thing to say in favour of experimental archaeology is that it allows modern humans to demonstrate *techniques* as well as the artistic merits behind them.
There's loads of talk about the Iron Age, for example; and some talk about the Bronze Age, and the Neolithic. But we don't talk about the Flint Age (which essentially never did end) nor the Fired Pottery Age (again, never really ended). Both these technologies have been evolving for thousands of years, and haven't changed terribly much except in those times and places that the *FABRIC* wasn't quite what the artisans were expecting.
^^ So Yeah -- the word FABRIC belongs to a much larger class of people than textile merchants.
I'll also say this -- don't remember which episodes they were, but I can distinctly remember the Time Team finding at least 1 really nice bone needle, and at least 2 fairly good thimbles. *Were these items being used exclusively by women?*
Answer: Nope, they probably weren't, even if the thimbles indicate they're suitable for exceedingly fine needlework. My grandfather was quite capable with needles, either sewing or knitting, for clothing or manufacturing industrial items, such as fishing nets, lobster pots, or "flakes" which are drying racks.
Compare Flint or Pottery against Bronze, perhaps you too can see why some ages definitely "end" in the sense that only a tiny tiny minority of the people which make up human culture have any regular method of production of bronze, or any use for the actual material.
Wattle and daub is so incredibly useful it finds itself repeated right up into the 1800s. I have a daub hut I roofed in slate as it's available here. lasted four years so far. Love making clay from local red mud as well.
Unlike prof pryors ancient master workers mine truly is a hut. use it to store garden tools lol
27:24 -- "And then we wondered..." -- Funny how the Time Team rediscovered a fairly new idea, which obviously must be a very old idea.
Some Machines Need To Be Put Under a Load to Properly Work, just like an electrical circuit.
The Victorian prison regime has much going for it. Far better than the milquetoast approach now.
"My experience with Bronze Age archeology is that there is weirdness everywhere in the Bronze Age". lol. Maybe everybody was just weird!
Now do experimental medicine: recreate surgery in the past!
Reading the wikipedia, it says that there's been found another one of these Holmes, but it was washed away since the archeologists got yelled at last time they messed with the original one.
Manny Calavera hen
to understand what they found they tried to live and think as their subject matter.. I used to be an active re-enactment persona with the SCA for 17yrs and for 2 weeks out of the year we would participate in a "war" at the end of the mass gathering and it was those experiences that gave me the closest understanding about the b past that I feel anyone could get.
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Just like a HESCO we used over in the sand box.
People always want to go back in time. Well, you can just dig down.
There are upside down trees on Prince Edward island off Canada's west coast as well.
Prince Edward Island is off Canada's West Coast? Is there more than one PEI?
East coast
@@jamespfp well it depends on the map you look at
@@ToastGreeting Yeah it kinda does... I guess?? /still hasn't gone looking for Prince Edward Island in B.C.
37:52 reminds me of that 'seremonial' video Metatron once made haha
I understand that it's necessary to dig up skeletons, but I sure hope that when I''m put in the ground, I'm left alone...
Deserthunter after 1000-2000 years probably not
43:00 -- I think Cadenza and Francis' explanations both fall well short of an explanation.
I'm a little more on Francis' side of the trench, though. I think the most obvious linkage with the "Underworld" that a huge tree has is that part of the tree normally hidden by the Earth itself. If Nature has already flipped the tree over, keeping it inverted and putting it on display answers the whole thing to me; there is a convenient way to make direct contact with the Underworld (in classical Greek terms, chthonic ritual).
^^ Compare this with deliberate planting of Yew trees during various periods. Also, this is obviously a fascinating area of speculation -- "A Song of Ice and Fire" makes extensive and deliberate use of similar ritualized understandings.
How about Seahenge being a conduit between realms? We'll never know, just as we will never know with certainty what motivated Bronze Age or even Iron Age people or about their spirituality and meaning behind certain practices.
At the start of the American Revolutionary War forts made of such gabions and woven 'wicker' were responsible for the first and very great British defeat, the loss of Boston. "Bunker Hill (aka Breeds Hill)" was a fort that appeared literally overnight on hill that commanded ship approaches to Boston Harbor, as such, the British had no choice but to oust the Americans. It would be years before Washington would train sufficient professional soldiers to face off against the British in a stand up slug fest, the Americans did so well because they were behind such woven barriers, a fort they brought up to the top of the hill in the middle of the night. Later in same battle, after Washington had taken command, he super sized the idea having created overnight a fully armed artillery fort made nearly impregnable by woven walls many prefab panels deep, no doubt also with dirt filled gabions. Faced with not just a risk of artillery but the actual artillery capable of lobbing shells all over Boston, the British left, essentially leaving the Northern end of their possessions to the Americans for the rest of the war.
In many ways it was the first time American "out produced / out built" an enemy into submission a new way of warfare made possible by the massive resources available and an incredibly capable and over achieving population and no not bragging, in WWII US production won, but US soldiers were far more likely to be able to fix motorized and electrical equip due to their backgrounds doing just that 'back home' professionally or 'on the farm', the same might be driving US 'remote' warfare, not just drones but remote sensing and hacking. The last civilization that conducted such wars were the Romans whose legions were as adept at building as war, and who had access to vast resources in an as of yet not stripped bare Europe to do such as build bridges across the Rein, Hadrians wall (2 x), encircle besieged cities with un assailable walls of their own, create multiple fleets until they learned enough to beat THE sea power Carthage. During the American Civil war, the first true war of production, Robert E Lee is quoted as crediting General Shermans soldiers with being the greatest since Rome as they built wood causeways across swamps at the rate of 10 miles a day - using not just the plentiful trees but disassembling and reusing every plank and nail from every building they could find. What these military examples prove, what experimental archeology proves, is what we in our hi tech cloud can't admit, that human beings, since the first time one formed a piece of wood into a tool with a piece of flint became individual factories, which when combined with others, DID create massive engineering projects equal to any of ours, including civil engineering on continental scales - transforming what was primarily a rough rocky impenetrable forested landscape into the relatively smooth fields and clear forests we consider 'natural' - in Europe, in Asia, in Africa in South - Central and North America (albeit w help of metal tools in N America - which just speeded up process) literally terraforming a planet one human at a time.
Sort of makes me think that the Industrial Revolution took so much away from cooperation and teamwork and changed society into a rat race. The tree has me asking more questions, but you'd have to dig it up. Was it chopped and moved or did a storm do the grunt work? Would the people have seen it as a miracle and built the fence to protect it? Darn your show makes me think! 😄
5:14 Dad's Army 😀
Five thousand years from now, archaeologists will be digging up the experimental archaeology, thinking it's what we were doing , and wondering why we were doing it....lol
5:27 Oi mate, you got a license for those water balloons?
How did an Oak tree end up upside down in a hole? By planting the acorn upside down...Duh
Also British pathe has a vid about steel with a guy pugging clay barefoot just like carenza did. Prof Pryor sure was right.
They handmade the big lots of crucible for molten steel
the roots were left on the tree, washed clean, it was to hint at the magic of the mushrooms and the communication of all things connected in the soil, and in this way also the air, as above so below.... like the knot where the branches and roots meet.....same meaning here ; )
Finally someone confronts Francis with his 'ritual" obsession!
"Thousands, or even HOUNDREDS of years ago".... Lolz
I believe that water wheel would have been turned using oxygen or donkeys
She was a Mother tree. She symbolised the Great Earth Mother. Something killed her, so they honored her by replanting her living roots and burying her body. They left out enough of her root and for people to come and pay her homage. The posts most likely represented the people or families who lived in her shade, used her children for firewood and dwellings, and gathered her leaves and seeds for food. The honeysuckle had probably lived in her as well. She was an ancient and well-loved tree.
With all due respect, don't filter everything through a feminist version of reality.
Truth be told I’ll bet our ancestors were far busier than we are today. They had to hunt grow prepare a meal each day. Then there’s … children … animals … crops. We’re living in a much easier time.
10:34 I’ve been through much worse.
Put Phill on that Roman wheel and they lost 3 kids to centripetal force.
After the 11th episodes that it? aside from the specials.
I want a round house
Hey, great vid, if you are interested, we are doing a massive dig in the Bujang Valley in Kedah, Malaysia, its the oldest site to date in SEA with dates confirmed as early as the 1st century... really neat 'candi' findings so far, check us out on facebook if you are interested in being a part of it.. look for 'The Bujang Valley Expedition'
I will, I know little about the Archaeology of that part of the World.
27:58 the genesis of the current engineers mantra Keep It Simple Stupid... It's KiSS heheh
Tony, you blew it. At 5:03 you say that the Home Guard would have used armoured Austin Healey's to repel German Panzers. WWII finished in 1945 while the first Austin Healey did not get produced until 1952, so there is a slight mistake.
+Wotdermatter
He didn't say they would use armoured Austin Healeys to repel German Panzers. He said they *simulated* tanks using healeys. So they could practice attacking them. He may have got the car wrong.
+Wotdermatter It's an Austin 10 from 1939 and yes, the 2 companies didn't merge until after the war but over the last 60+ years they have come to be commonly married together in the vernacular that most people don't even know the difference.
Most of what Tony says is scripted so it may not even have been his mistake.
+kha sab
Please rewind and listen very carefully to what Tony said, "... culminated on an attack on an armoured Austin Healey which the Home Guard really did use to simulate a Panzer tank." So he is stating that Austin Healeys were used.
+ Stannous Flouride
The Austin taxi was not an Austin 10 but a 4 cylinder Austin 12 of which they built two versions. Austin did continue to manufacture taxis after WWII but never in association with Healey. The taxi used in this reproduction was not from 1939 as asserted. The design shown in the video came out much later because in the 1930s and 40s the body design was boxy, not rounded.
.nuf sed.
10:29 ➡➡ 11:08
Lol Damian Woodburn is the chief architect of Stonehenge now what a small community...
Am I the only one that cried a little with tree henge?
I think the guy was right about the inverted tree in the ground at the sea shore
that woman was just talking nonsense
Carenza could be right. Oak tree an ancient pagan symbol in Saxony and it is likely this was a monument to paradigm shift on spiritual level.
Are we over complicating this. I see an upside down tree trunk. Being someone who has gardened. The root system is pointed towards the sky. Pointing at all the heavens we came from showing we know where we have been. Build me a temple not out of hewn rock.What a perfect display of god. All reaching down to us as the tree reaches up to him. God is the root. Might have nothing to what they thought, But something to think about ;)
uh....I don't see any safety tips on those arrows. They can't be completely flat and stick in the ground like that, are they actually shooting REAL ARROWS at each other?! Even practice arrows have a bit of a point on them and can do some serious damage. The guys appear to be shooting extremely shallow so I don't know about fatal injuries but even at that low velocity you could still take one in the eye or punch a new hole in your face.
Reject modernity. Return to roundhouse.
they were "sticky bombs" not bouncy bombs!!!
Like number 666....
In all seriousness everyone, to me this programe was good television entertainment, so what has happened to create what is mostly a complete dumpster called T.V. entertainment today? Respectively, any ideas.
Why did the re-creators hold their bows at full draw en mass 1:50? That isn't going to happen, ever. It's hard enough to get a heavy war bow to full draw, and holding it there longer than necessary decreases your total number of shots due to early muscle fatigue. They must be movie extras.
What have we learned? The more sophisticated the technology, the more stupid the consumers. In the Neolithic everybody had to be incredibly smart. Today often the only smart thing is the phone.
39:40 stay off drugs kids
Stop the commercial disease....give humanity a break
What written records do we actually have to tell us how ancient, pagan celebrations have been carried over to modern times? Do such records exist, or did some commentator long ago take to making things up only to have his claims repeated and taken at face value generation after generation to the point that we just assume they are true?
WHY, a little over done.
interesting but they and you all make a big mistake - humans was and never we be alone - more I not tell you - when the time is right you will find the answer
waste of time just dig and find..........we can all theorize
Sedimentary researches are also mostly theorical.
Ok.. Carenzas militant feminism makes me see why she had to go.. I had forgotten...