Time.Team.S16-E12 Buried Bishops and Belfries: Salisbury Cathedral
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Tony Robinson and the team get a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to dig in the hallowed grounds of Salisbury Cathedral. Over three days the archaeologists reveal the long-lost original bell tower every bit as impressive as the cathedral itself.
This is my go to show to binge on while crafting, embroidering and organizing. Nothing better. I can listen to Phil and Mick for hours
Me too! 😊
Me too❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I know that desire for both background energy feeling and for watching while tasking. ☀️
Yes me too
Same here! I love to listen to them while weaving. Interesting enough to keep listening to, but without making me lose track of which treadles I just stepped on… 🧶
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Ditto... except for the fact I don't have a wife or live in DC... but I used to live in lake ridge Va.. but I digress... LOVE ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS.... thanx soooooo much for your uploads and I am a new SUBSCRIBER 💋💞💙
I live in South-West Ontario Canada. But my family is from Shrewsbury Shropshire, as well as all over South Wales. I am seeing from you’re shows SOME of the things that my Family DID do and actually helped the Proper Royalty. I thank you for putting the Time Team online.
This is what I like about RUclips. You can watch this video in multiple countries, unlike the source which is channel 4 which you can't watch in the states.
I gather the BBC didn't have the sense to broadcast them on BBC America? There seems to be a lot of American fans.
@@Pauldjreadman You are correct, they didn't play them on BBC America. Not a huge selection of stuff on there, but even the "not so great" BBC stuff is usually way better/interesting than American stuff. PBS is pretty good, but again not a huge selection for us poor, poor Yanks. I had never even heard of TT until I saw an episode here on the RUclips. And now I've watched every episode I can find, mostly thanks to Reijer Zaaijer. Thanks RZ. Peace.
Tony Stewart John Helen karenza Raksha Phil Nick Naomi and Henry and the cast and workers are time team royalty . In a Baldrick sort of way😂😂😂❤❤❤.
My life goal is to be as joyous as Phil looking at stuff.
I absolutely love this show. So much fun. And I'm in love with Phil.! He's a delight.
When we lift the bishop's seed tray - Toney...lol talk about a gender reveal lol.
For as many times that I have seen this episode, hearing and seeing Phil’s delight at Salisbury by air, still brings tears to my eyes.
If there was any expression of trepidation on his part, it was obviously edited out. He was having as much fun on that flight as I have on giga-coasters. "Look -- I can see me 'ouse from 'ere!"
💜Phil is dear to my heart as well!:-)💜
first time i took a flight was on a DC9 from New Orleans to Atlanta. in the late afternoon. We rose up above two cloud-layers which were side-lit from the setting sun. Unbelievable view.
@@haplessasshole9615 ...what the hell is a giga-coaster?
@@shainemaine1268 A coaster with a drop of at least 300 feet. Millennium Force at Cedar Point is my hands-down favorite. It may not have inversions, but it has overbanked curves and is *fast*.
How much fun it would be to meet Phil and spend a few days in his company
Wessex archaeology accepts volunteer diggers, and Phil still works for them. I'm sure he'd say hello
I want to meet Stewart. Not so much for his specialty, but for his personality.
This was a fantastic excavation on a wonderful Cathedral site, that means so much to me.
Some decades ago, I would regularly fly Gliders from Old Sarum and circle/thermal over this wonderfully majestic Cathedral. To say that every time, it was a thrill, is an understatement.
Salisbury Cathedral is such a dominant landmark in the air and its Spire dominates,10 miles approaching Salisbury, on road, from the South Coast.
The Craftsmen and engineers who built this Cathedral should always be remembered as some of the finest ever, in our entire history.
The French stone mason guild it all sprang from exists to this day in an unbroken apprentice/master cycle that's approaching its eleven hundredth birthday. They call it flamboyant gothic style.
The French guild trains in many styles and types of stone work and the apprentice chooses his or very recently her focus. Some go the sculptor route and make the pretty face and Angel pieces, some are more wall focused etc etc.
"Medievel bishops were celibate..." Say What?! That's a known joke, then as well as now.
Yep. My guess is that the extra skeleton is that of an illegitimate son of *Beauchamp's*.
Bell tower site is visible in the grass on Google Earth here:
51°03'56.7"N 1°47'52.3"W
And the chapel site is too, here:
51°03'53.4"N 1°47'46.8"W
Thank you, Sir/Madam!
Too many things to get a guffaw from on this episode: Matt realizing he was caught yawning; "bishop's legs" or "bishop's knees" being good names for a small village or pub; archaeological Lego knock-offs, a rich bishop's illegitimate son perhaps demanding recognition, only to be buried in his father's disused chapel. Actually that last one is kinda sad.
As a proud Canadian I can't help but feel our history is, well rather primitive.
That's why you build great for later people......
You know the ones who might dig it to see what we might have did....
Have some fun build a catholic cathedral
I would sign up to work on it
Thank You for this major work! I am a frustrated archaeologists myself, I did discover the 1915 telephone batteries at my late Father in laws house. Thank You for all you do!
Brilliant presentation thank you i was at Salisbury in 1998 enjoyed my visit and appreciated the care in which the Cathedral has been looked after .
Helen always looks adorable, but when she lights up with the passion of pursuit, as around the 36:00 mark, she's irresistible.
But it looks like phill has done her hair in this programme! But yeah shes a fave presenter!
Where else can you hear words like 'furtling'?
The word is 'furkling', which means to rummage around. 'Furtling' was a Victorian game of a mildly sexual nature.
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=furtling
You learn something new everyday.
England.
Or hearing of the Carinated girth of a Biconicle from Tony. I suspect though that only he may know what that is.
I think Tony was required to say he was frustrated at least once an episode, lol...
He can get quite annoying.
That is the work of the archaeologists. Especially Mick (GOD rest and bless him,) or Phil. They took great satisfaction in getting him wound up in every episode.
@@jimleon7894 "Quite"? Only "Quite"? British understatement?
Steuart is highly intelligent in the use of those maps.I have a painting from 1828( a copy) of a farmhouse that my 4X Great Grandfather owned between 1805 and 1829 when he died.I did the same thing using triangulation,but there was too much undergrowth,and too many newer trees. It does work though.
Love love these vids and seeing some of GB. Love all the team. I would have loved to go on a dig also. Thank you so very much.
"He was wealthy enough to bribe the Pope to make the Bishop a saint" Perfectly demonstrates just how crooked the Catholic church was, and , still is. The church of Rome is one of the wealthiest, if not THE wealthiest land owner on the planet.
That's why the Reformation came about, not too many years later.
Thanks for posting.
I love how the gravedigger with the smile has gloves with a skull and crossbones knitted into them. So telling how she loves her job. Also, I have to add, that the profiled bone structure of Tony's skull shows me he is related to Roman Leprechauns. Full of character.
She is a doctorate holding osteoarchaeologist with multiple
Decades of experience not a simple grave digger lol
Tony, related to Roman Leprechauns. Why does this not surprise me at all?! :)
Why was the bell tower and chapel torn down to this existing cathedral ?? I didn't seem to hear that question addressed.
They didn't think the tower was needed and had the bells in the main building. As to the challenge times change
I cant believe they pulled down ANY PART of this magnificent building.
As an American I will never stop being envious of the mother country for having such a magnificent history. Its like living in and on thousands of years of history.
Did your ancestors come over on the Mayflower?
I’m surprised they still allow farming with plows in Britain at all...every field seems to contain some archeology from a community before (all the way back to the Neolithic)!
- Farmers must dread seeing people poke around on their property for fear they’ll find something that will put a field on scheduled protection.
You've got thousands of years of First Nations History over there! Just acknowledge it!
@@robertjpercival6386 the living should not be restrained by the dead.
@@SuperRabbi1 mexico does, not the U.S.. All the great civilizations developed on the intra-continental penisula, with it's year round warm climate and ample supply of wood and rock and ore, from mountains and volcanic activity. The tribes in the U.S. had less access to commercial quantities of stone and ore, which made working woods tedious and stone almost impossible and the climate less predictable and hospitable, combined with the vast continental expanse loaded with game. Thus their cultural practices were far more temporary: Sticks, pelts, and limited earth works while the tribes to the south left their marks in Gold, obsidian and timeless granite.
Death the Leveller
James Shirley
1596 (London) - 1666 (London)
The glories of our blood and state
Are shadows, not substantial things;
There is no armour against Fate;
Death lays his icy hand on kings:
Sceptre and Crown
Must tumble down,
And in the dust be equal made
With the poor crookèd scythe and spade.
Learned this in Bombay Scottish High School back in India ~1970.
I was learning mama then envious beautiful poem,
Thanks
"Is it a woman pretending to be a Bishop? We'll find out when we lift the seed tray." 😂😂😂 Gotta love Tony!!
Increasingly Complex Chapel Investigation is the name of my new band
Great name
I've stated previously that Phil Harding is the Sherlock Holmes of archaeology . But he sounds like a pirate and looks like a hippie ! Perhaps Captain Black Jack Gonzo Holmes at your service !!! What a delight !!!
Great episode. I am curious as to the reasoning of the 1700s demolition of the bell tower and Beauchamp Chapel.Afterall they were already very old at that time. There doesn't appear to be anything there but a lawn. Also, I am unable to imagine where the door is from the cathedral to the chapel.
GREAT PROGRAM
...PROGRAMME lol
It's the Baby Eating Bishop of Bath and Wells obviously
What’s a sondage? Tony should explain his terms!
They kinda do its a trench in a trench I guess 😊
Aahhhh buttresses 🤗💙
EDIT... flying buttresses 🥰🤩😀😀🙆♀️🙏🙏💖
Sounds like a juicy name for a rock band or an acrobats group: The Flying Buttresses
I really enjoyed “The Pillars of the Earth” by Ken Follett. Great book about a mason building cathedrals.
Oh, so thank you. I read the book a a youngling an thought itcwas firevpillars was really just thinking about the book.
Thanks again
Phil sounded like he was in the “Wonkavator”!!!!😂😂😂♥️‼️⭐️
I've been to Salisbury Cath in 1999, having my 1st fish and chips 2 blocks away. Watching it here brings NO semblance to the enormous size of the cathedral. It is amazing and a must see to any visitor or any British citizen's wish list. Thrilled to watch this episode.
Was there myself in 2000. I agree, you can't tell the scale of it from this. Would love to go back and see it all again having watched this.
Imagine walking a few hundred miles on pilgrimage then seeing it on the horizon growing bigger and bigger til it's doors swallowed you up.
Wars of the Roses era Bishop Beauchamp's successor was the White Queen's (Elizabeth Woodville) brother Lionel Woodville. Appointed about 1481. Just one of the many appointments and marriage unions the Woodvilles made to help secure their rocky foundation in the medieval power structures of this unstable period in England's history.
Ahhh I knew it. Those Russian spies chose to visit Salisbury for the spire AND to visit the site of a Time Team episode. Hi Ras-Putin! 😉
Thank goodness for that plastic seed tray. Otherwise TT might have been bashing their bishop!
That has a couple meanings an both could be appealing if I was drunk 😂
Ain't Helen lovely!
Oh yeah she is but who's done her hair? Looks like phils done it in this dig!
Helen , what a lady !😉
Plastic building blocks... Were they not allowed to say Legos?
Anyway love this show, thanks for posting 👌
I think it is because Lego's is a brand name.
Glad Stewart had the opportunity to "go artistic". It's nice to go on a tangent at times!
I do drewing and coloring art and this show seems to unlock creativity. Such a great show. I cant say enough how much i enjoy Time Team.
The name was spelled as it was in French - Beauchamp - but pronounced Beecham in English.
25:44 another episode with Tony whining about it taking too long. At least Mick takes him to task for it. Tony just doesn't understand that these things take time.
19:44 to 19:58 I fuckin' died. "yes, yes, it is. it's just that we weren't looking for it."
oh that whole skit was staged...of course they were looking for it. Stewart corpsed his lines and Tony just creased me up.
Don't worry Tony, Micks got a cunning plan. I'm so sorry but it needed doing.
Thank you for posting this, very informative
our cathedral was built on cow skins apparently. We have sandy soil here.
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If the construction of the bell tower was in the original plans with the building of the cathedral why would you build a workshop over the site, knowing that you would have to eventually move it out of the way? I would think a workshop would have been built on site but not under the footprint of either building and then could be used during the construction of both. I realize the work went on for almost 50 years, so a lot could have happened.
I didn’t catch when it was built, but it’s possible the original plans called for a different location that they later decided against, or they ran out of money & figured it might never get built so why worry about it...
Why lay down a fresh gravel raft and stone layer, which could take ten or fifteen men an entire season, when you don't have to?
So the monuments were empty cenotaphs, not sarcophagi containing the bodies? For some reason that surprises me.
Their archaeology work is so amazing. Yet, as a Catholic with some good bit of education, I cant help but be disturbed by the one sided rather rude remarks that come up about Catholicism. They are so smart, but not about everything, and certainly not about the truths of the history of Catholic spirituality and beliefs.
The comments focus on what the excuse this not so dedicated belverses action nit on the good.....
Myself included sometimes😊
Oh, but "Nephew Beecham" could be identified with DNA analysis and validate the point subject, now. Placing the records in its value to the History of the site.
Excellent efforts by all of these folks, amazing works.
Aw Phil missed the chance to say "I can see my house from here"
He did say it at 20:26 or at least, "Hey, there's home", while pointing.
+Leopararouen He probably didn't want fans conducting a dig on the rubbish pit in his back garden when he wasn't home.
but he did say "I can see the pub fr'm 'ere"...
Actually if Phil was speaking in true Wiltshire dialect he'd say :
I can see my ouse from ere!
@@mikeradford5630 Actually that would be: "Oi con zee moi owze vram yere!"
wonder why the graves are not sanctified or anointed in some way when found
Why did they demolish this great histry?
The current bell tower is superior engineering and the older one was too good a source of material to pass up. Plus the cathedral generated huge sums of money from pilgrims who expected to be wowed. A lot of reasons honestly
KEEP GOING !
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Thus with the greater clarity and understanding that emerged (subjects will continued to get researched), I truly achieved a much greater Higher Minded/Mature Minded method of Thoughts with Conscious Application of Thoughts - and have such a greater Wisdom with far greater Positive Thought Energies and I am truly happier in my skin that I ever was while working as an Exec - VP and COO, successful by material standards - and making my Corporation vastly higher revenues in the Millions category.
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*Your "opinions" will be changed and you are very like to experience "Cognitive Dissonance".*
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Carry on...
...amen!
Well said! I'm 60 yrs. old and I feel the effects of geezerdom setting in a little more every day. But I'm too damn stubborn to let it slow me down. I have bad knees, bad teeth and High blood pressure; The latter of which I am currently taking meds for. It was so bad at one point that my Doctor asked me why I wasn't dead yet?! I told him that GOD won't have me and the devil is too afraid I'll take over! And that I'm just too damn mean and stubborn! That set him straight.
Dear Beth Bartlett, wish I had your command of spinning.
@@thomaspatton4401Like your attitude. 72 and still living for plain spite and cussedness.
I like the gloves their "Bones" is wearing.
Tony: I'm bored. 4 x episode x 22 year x 22 years.
That skeleton in the bishops grave has got to be the bishop, gay lover, and that’s why there’s no record
Would you bury your lover next to you?????
"In less thannnn a year and a bit," Nice save. 10:58
I wonder why the Time Team only get 3 days to excavate a site that is so important and historical. What a waste when they have to bury more artifacts and archaeological history. Such a fascinating series. There must be so much more items to uncover and discover. 3 days is just not enough time!!
I agree. Why 3 why not 2 or 4 or 5 why 3
@@richardsanchez9190 All of the experts and many of the diggers have regular jobs and can only squeeze out three days at the most. They are spending their time off doing this. This is exploratory archaeology, where they set out to learn the basics, the who, what, where, when, why, etc. This can be very important, leading to sites being protected from harm by being listed or simply showing a farmer or the military what areas to not dig up.
We are actually very fortunate to get this at all. Mick saw the dry way documentaries showed an already dug site and droned on about it, not connecting with the audience. He wanted to show live archaeology which had not been done before. Some experts, archaeologists, historians, and the like, were pissy about it, thinking they would make a mess of a site, destroying it's value for the sake of reality TV.
It was only after several years of proving themselves that those opinions began changing. After the financial crash they were being called on by English Heritage and others do do crucial digs that they could not afford in many cases.
Asked and answered thousands of times.
I agree Valerie 👍
Something I don't understand: first the bones in the chapel are of a woman, but after they have looked up the family tree it is thought to be the illigitimate great nephew of the bishop, so a man....
No, the body is found to be a man at 35:29, and they decide to go through the family history after that, at 36:53
I believe there was a body buried in the corner, and that was the boy.
necessary watching...
I remember visiting Salisbury and the Cathedral, during a family trip to the UK back in '70. I think I remember the clock; I know that we stayed at the White Hart there. (Incidentally, during my later school days, there was a White Hart in Salisbury, CT). Make of that what you will...
You are being stalked by a pub beware, beware.
If it's an inn you're doomed
Shut down automatik subs! Please
Interesting is Stewart's point of view of the artist who painted the building! I find it important!
There's a river cut here where they took away the good bits... Wonder where they went? Eh they tossed them in the attic like anyone else lol
They hardly ever screen the dirt. How many small artifacts end up in the backdirt pile?
... ive often seen them at least go over it with a metal detector.... but yeah, i screen screen and screen, unless its an imported/heavily disturbed 20th century strata... then its mechanically removed UPDATE - even recently Helen has stated publicly she was a bit shocked they would strip off the topsoil without at least running a metal detector over it in early episodes but apparently Mick felt detectorists were worse than the plague lol
@@Jigger2361 *Mick* had a point. The _nighthawks_ had caused a great deal of damage (and still do). The _responsible_ detectorists (which a *_horrible_* word) were probably always in the majority but, as usual, the bad apples taint the barrel.
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 ...so true, Phil.... I see two "detectorists" are up on charges from a horde they sold off last fall...some of those who assisted them in selling it are also facing penalties ... if they had just remained honest apparently they would have had a huge reward... greed
Beacham ? Wasn't he the guy who shut down half the railways in the UK ?
Cant they just test the DNA, see if they match? It's probably a lover of Beachums
Physically possible I'm sure but you go recommend unseating a bishops sarcophagus in the have to the dean, are how loud his screams echo hahaha
"Salisbury Cathedral! For Centuries, this Pinnacle of Medieval Engineering and Architecture has stood Proud.... Surviving Wars, Floods, and the Reformation.
But now we're here... to dig a fucking great hole in it."
Lol be fair, they dug holes in its lawn
By far one of the most interesting episodes I’ve watched
Considering that it's a Bishop. maybe the bones in his grave is from his favorite choirboy.😂😜
😂...perhaps.
Laughing at child abuse huh... How christian.
the edifice in Malmesbury has something to do with this....best wishes to all :)
Footing were important in swampy Salisbury.
Could the Bishop have had a mistress he had buried with him?🤔
Greetings to all other history nerds. From Denmark. Not the state in USA, but the country in Scandinavia, if anyone knows of it.
Imagine having your house right next to the cathedral. The view would be humbling
I was stationed near there in the mid '80's and passed it daily. Sadly we never actually went into it. That was pre TT though, I'd be in like a shot now.
They should put in some sort of marker where Constable was standing.
*graham lester*
There probably is now that *Stewart's* found the right spot.
Why do the archeologists use measurement of feet alternated with measurement of meters?
Brits have always been confused.
Why did they tear down the chapel
I often wonder why we seldom hear you mention chapels for the builders.
Chapels and memorials for the builders most always centered around guild halls rather than the structures they built.
S16E06
Mic! Yay.
fire fly reborn
Love the show.
Its tragic that the bishops poured money in to rocks and cement "for the glory of God" while his people go hungry and die. So much good could have been done.
Leaders had a different perspective. Less boots on the ground. They looked at it as a timeless monument to Gods glory. To be celebrated not just in the moment by the people living there. But by all people to come as well...as a reminder of Gods eternal presence and magnificence.
Life is temporal. God is eternal.
...something like that....
When people say the money should have been spent on other things, I know they don't understand economy. The money ALL went to people, to masons, stonecutters, architects, glass artisans, carpenters, etc., and from there to the shopkeepers and grocers and shoemakers and potters and and taverns of the area. It kept the whole local economy going for years. They didn't just dig a hole and throw it in.
Come on now Bouldrick .
Baldrige an seeing Tony's face made me watch....?
Was Baldrige making a history show an I was hooked
Get down the Wyndem Phil!
Spent a few lunchtimes in the Wynden arms.. never saw Phil in there
maybe he was away up country on another dig
JEESUS! - what a WONDERFUL pace! Why on HELL would you destroy something of such a beuty, with centuries of History behind???
At the time it wasn't considered as such. In 500 years time they'll be digging up our supermarkets with the same enthusiasm.
Whenever someone makes a suggestion Tony always has a negative response. ALWAYS! Does he ever agree on anything the archelogists 'predict'? I'd slap up in the side of the head. Lol.
Tony Robinson's role was "devil's advocate" challenging the professionals to explain their thinking.
Although he is not an academic he does have a wide knowledge, but rarely showed it. He aimed to be the intelligent (if sometimes irritating) questioner to make the professionals communicate their ideas in a way which non-experts could follow.
Whats the significance of the 3 day time limit?
That is how the program is structured.
They work other jobs during the week.
The archæologists were all professionally employed as archæologists elsewhere, 3 days is quite common for exploratory excavations and the programme was otherwise very expensive. After the dig they usually stopped, recorded everything and shut it all down. In some cases the investigation was carried on by others, either amateur or professional, in others that is planned and in a few cases they found pretty well all there was to be found. They _always_ wrote a full report and that can usually be found easily in pdf for free (look at www.wessexarch.co.uk or local archæological society websites). Most finds were given to local museums for study. Skeletons were studied and then reburied in consecrated ground unless there was a _very_ pressing reason not to (and that would need government permission).
Yeah, this was more or less something they did on long weekends.
I freaking love this show!!!!! Is it still on? Like a weekly show?
Nope, wish it was though.
@joker gang Sadly, no. Time Team ran from 1994 to 2014.
There was a US imitation, but I don't think it was successful.
First aired March 22, 2009.
I cannot say in words, how this catherdral affected me! It has to be the most incredibly emotive building I have ever seen, or entered! ...
AGREED.
WHY ONLY 3 DAYS???
No need to shout. Asked and answered thousands of times.
Any more and you would OD on all the knowledge, rember health and safety
Lots of reasons- Funding, for one- doing what they’re doing is NOT cheap, and it was all on Channel 4’s dime; scheduling, for another- the archaeologists have academic or research positions during the week, so they were doing these on their weekends; finally, because Mick Aston planned it that way! Their goal is to do survey or exploratory digs, and they’re not trying or intending to fully excavate an entire site. That’s the work for the local councils’ archaeological units. If they were planning to fully excavate each site, we’d have had one episode a year.