A a woman born in East Anglia but mostly raised in the US with a few years schooled in Lowestoft I love your shows. It brings me home especially when I catch a suffolk accent. I'm a proud relative of Amos Beamish the Famous Giant of Barnby he is my great great great... uncle.
Nope. You’d spend every night for the rest of your life stopping randomers digging up your fields at midnight. It freaking happens. All the time!! People sneak in after dark and dig etc 😒
Me too I find it so amazing what is buried under everyday field’s and garden’s I try and picture the people from that time and way before them it’s so fascinating to me‼️‼️‼️👍🏻😊
Yes the burial with the two adults and the toddler pulled at the heart strings. The way the male in the left leaning in to the person next to him you can definitely visualise the funeral. Definitely the most emotional and moving episode
they had town hall meetings and voted, just like New England did here, and we descend from that partially, in our colonial familes and in our colonial government, and now. Tun moot, and hundred moot. much more egalitarian than the norman conquerors, who turned them into an oppressed class.
Wonderful explanation by museum why/how finding of amateur followed proper identification procedure thus encouraging Time Team investigation. That itself is exciting for public education.
Ancient history is so fascinating , especially when getting into the Greco - Roman periods , and that dark ages that followed after Rome fell mi- late 400s A.D. The Spanish empire was a continuation of Roman ways , but was Christian .
Policies don't exactly encourage such proper identification. While some people are strictly interested in history, others are exploring for profit. Certainly that bucket held some value for someone it probably wouldn't help someone retire. But, find a horde of gold and they'll be lucky to receive a fraction of a fraction of the value.
I have a theory about the large number of double-burials, with so much weaponry buried along with the corpses: there was an attack on the village, and those people buried together were relatives who died in the raid, the adults having attempted to defend the village. The fact that the one skull, at least, showed signs of blunt-force trauma could definitely point to someone killed in battle. Like many of the peoples of that time period, the Saxons were a "warlike" folk (I mean what Germanic people WASN'T in those days?). They believed in basically the same gods and goddesses as the Norse (Vikings) did. To those people, dying in battle, defending one's home and family, would have been seen as a "good death," and they would have been buried with their weapons as a sign of their warrior honour. If it was a raid, and a large number of family members were killed all at once (even the elderly and children were considered legitimate targets in olden times), it stands to reason that brothers would be buried together, children would be buried with parents, etc. This is all an educated guess, but I think it fits.
not only that , but once the nurturing adults were killed, the children would fare much worse and maybe die not long after, of pure neglect or lack of breastmilk, etc.
It couldn't have been a complete rout, or else there wouldn't have been anyone to conduct the funeral, and the most precious goods would have been taken by the victorious party.
I was thinking something similar. It seems in the one grave it may have been a father and son buried together, both of whom who may have been killed at the same time, either in battle or as a result of an attack. Since there are fewer women, I can only guess they were taken and raped and either kept as sex slaves or were killed elsewhere.
@@tdpay9015 Yes. It most certainly looks like a battle and it sure looks like this village won it. The victors lose people in battles, too. But the victors are buried with respect. Losers who tried to kill your family definitely do not get buried with respect, if at all. (It's hard work to dig even a simple grave.) More likely they were left out for the wolves - who would have heard the battle and been waiting...
As a Medievalist, the Staffordshire Hoard and Sutton Hoo helmet are some of my favorite artifacts and in my opinion, are the embodiment of Anglo-Saxon Britain.
I want everyone to understand what this documentary is getting at: which is, that artifacts discovered do not necessarily mean the people who made the item, ever lived in the area. I've seen so called archaeologists find an item older than the place they know the age of, then ascribe the item's age to the location, instead of ever thinking it was taken there. Ancient people were just like us today; they admired their treasures. They held in high esteem loot taken from their enemies. Monarchs and high officials hoarded war trophies, just as eagerly as WWII vets prized a German Luger. So, in such reasoning we must apply a simple logical deduction of if the item originates there or did it originate in a different year and location and eventually wind up where it was found?
I have abook from 1902, still in decent shape. But neither I, nor my parents, nor my grandparents lived at that time. Totally understandable that things say in use. When you have a perfectly fine byzantine bucket, you keep using it. And when you perish, your children get your bucket, and then their children, and their children. And that doesn't even account things things can travel. An object can move from generation to generation, each time a bit further, ending up somewhere completely different. Just imagine what happens if future archaeologists find one of our modern day museums.
Regarding the question as to 'why such young people would have been buried with weapons?' i would say it had to do with the warrior mentality of that age in believing that any afterlife would be a violent place where you had to protect yourself as this is all they knew like in norse views of the afterlife.
I am reminded of the quip that explains the difference between the US and Europe: "In the US, 100 years is a long time; in Europe, 100 miles is a long way." When you talk about 1500 years, I, as an American citizen, can hardly grasp it.
From a complete amateur, but don't we know that the vikings had gotten around the Iberian peninsula and into the Med, and established trading ports?. That would seem a much more likely route for Levant produced goods like the decorated bucket, especially since the area being excavated is on the way back to Jutland and the Scandinavian countries. As to the nesting buckets, any bushwacker used to hiking into unknown areas has a set of nesting pots for cooking, carrying water, eating, and even carrying smaller items. If I was a warrior who had gone off to battle, I would have well used such a set. And of course you'd always carry weapons; pigs and goats just don't jump into the pot when you're campaigning.
Since this was so long ago I am hoping it includes all test results on the buckets . What was in each one which grave they came from ect. An update on anything else, after the program finishes… that’s what I wish to know…
The English language is considered Germanic , and the word england comes from Angleland ; land of the Angles who , like the Saxons , and Jutes invaded England right after the collapse of the Roman Empire mid to late 400s A.D. . It's fantastic how the Roman Empire lasted nearly 600 years !
the maggot spear head- might have had maggots pupating on it since it was covered in flesh and blood of the enemy. and sat outside for at least a day before buried ( flies laid eggs on it).
I truly wish I had been influenced when I was younger (I am 65 now) I would of immigrated to the UK to look for the lost history..., never was interested as a kid about "William the Conqueror" in 1066 (the only thing I remember as a kid from my history lessons)..., being from Australia. 😢
as an american woman of the wild west and early colonial families, i can tell you why the women were armed. It is defensive. they lived in a hostile dangerous land that had enemies about, and they wanted to survive . the women were part of the defense, in the home and possibly outside it. Just like many of us American women were and are still today. "it was probably our ancestors" lol. i wouldn't be surprised. ever the colonist adventurers.
We defend the ones we love. Your comment makes me think of an anecdote from my grandmother’s childhood (approximately 1905, in a tiny settlement on the far south coast of New South Wales). A snake started coming up through a gap in the floorboards. Great grandmother grabbed a shotgun from above the fireplace, snapped the action shut & Joe Blake copped both barrels from the hip. Side note: later in life, when I knew a little more, I questioned Nanna (ie my grandmother) asking “didn’t your mother have to load the weapon?”. Her reply was “oh no, all 4 guns & rifles over the fireplace were permanently loaded…..” Hi from Oz🇦🇺👍
It's like the myth that all sailors stayed close to the shore rather than sail in wide expanses of open water. Sailing close to any coastline was far more hazardous than sailing in open water, and peoples of that time knew far more about sailing by the stars & sun than people do now. Even if the globe hadn't been intensely mapped in the 6th century, I seriously doubt that the majority of the continents, and/or large islands hadn't all been either discovered or at least sighted. After all, we really don't live on that large a planet, and there are seriously old tales of trading with any number of different tribes & civilizations, on different shores by then.
I have noticed over 40 odd years of watching archeologists they have a tendency to transcribe their own modern “opinions” onto many of these finds. This is a serious problem as the non bias analysis of our history shows an unrealistic picture of many finds and events.
Which is why they try to use it being found in undisturbed ground as a validation of age of the dig layer, but true, it doesn't validate who created the piece. Archaeologists are a odd mind, resistant and yet rush to determine it is the: "earliest, or validation of" Only, of course, when it validated their predetermined Beliefs, Theory, and their "19th Century Theory based Paradigm and Linear Timeline", which defines "Mainstream Academia/Archaeologists" ...
I wish there was more information on which episode this is… he mentioned the 3 live episodes. Is that time team digs? I’m in the US and we haven’t been privileged with Time Team. I’ve been watching on RUclips but no idea which season it is… just a rough estimate based on Tony’s hair
Less than a hundred years after Roman governance collapsed there was likely to be a lot of power grabs and warlording going on. You spear and shield would be your best friend, and only your direct family could be relied on in a fight.
Turns out this was a sub-group of the Jutes, a group called the Bucket People !!! Hyacinthe was descended from these people ! (Sorry to the young people, couldn't resist this whimsicality for us boomers !)
Breamore in Hampshire is where this is located. There are several museums the items could have been sent to, but I'm wondering if the Salisbury Museum was one of them since it's listed on the map. There are also bigger towns on the map, too, but I didn't see any obvious "Museum" markers for them.
My ancestor Geoffrey de Stapleton wed Alene Penrodus Comnenos of Cyprus 1180 , they are my 26th great grandparents. I have been wondering if she, or someone like her, was the owner of the nested buckets that Time Team found. 1180 is perhaps not as old as the Saxons, but graves persist, don't they? Anyway, food for thought. People from the Mediterranean often traveled, naturally easy by sea, and after all that is how the Romans took over way back. It's fascinating when buckets from the Middle East show up in British soil.
I'm American with German ancestory. Going way back with my own findings. The folks were very practical and only had useful items. Since the skeletons are buried in pairs with things, could the buckets be wedding presents to take take to the after life? Watching this program makes me want to dig up my own backyard and see what I wind up with. Washington State does have a history.
I've often rhought the whole afterlife reason for burying valuables was a bit spurious. I think it was more likely out of respect for the owner and to reduce squabling between close relatives over the spoils of someone's death.
Because you assume your culture was similar to a culture over a thousand years ago? There's a lot of burial practices from our past that includes slaughtering servants, pets etc. And you think that was not so the important person would have their servants and pets in the afterlife, but instead it was about not sharing with surviving siblings?
@@joythought There are scattered instances of slaughtering servants, etc. Those are mostly the rich/powerful narcissists. The vast majority of everyday people were probably much more like the average people nowadays. They just don't make for good TV.
I haven't finished watching yet but is that not Alice Roberts working anonymously as a grunt, back to the camera in the trenches at 10:30?? This must be a very early episode.
10:08 "These were rural folk with clean water and uncrowded housing. Two people just *couldn't* have died of a communicable disease at the same time. Much likelier that they left the grave open for new bodies to be added. Don't worry yourself that both skeletons appear to remain nicely articulated, in spite of the prolonged exposure I posit, or that those grave goods were left exposed along with the rotting bodies." =9[.]9=
Even with clean water & uncrowded housing, Cholera outbreaks were still possible at that time. But I think that, as another commenter has suggested, that the deaths were likely caused by a sudden raid on the small community. It would explain the multiple double burials, and the blunt force trauma skull fracture on the one skull.
@@SierraThunder That would also explain the variances in ages in the burials. At least there were survivors to bury their dead, and valuable grave goods still to be had, which means either a raid was repulsed, or the deaths took place away from the settlement. ='[.]'=
I disagree with their conclusion that someone sat in that spot making flint tools. I think it is much more likely that they were made and carried with them as a bunch and something happened. The chances that someone sat there peacefully making them and then just left them there, while possible, I consider unlikely.
What they were showing are the waste flakes that are cast off when knapping flint. They would not moved them any farther than was needed so they wouldn't step on them and cut their feet. That's why it is safe to assume that someone sat there knapping flint.
Do you respect them and give them a proper burial when done poking them? was it spears up if they were fighters taking out enemies, and spearhead down was for taken out without getting an enemy?
If it is so odd for a Saxon burial, maybe it’s not Saxon. What about the Juts who occupied the area before that Saxon invasion? Maybe these remains are Juts, buried with all those weapons, cause they died fighting so bravely against the Saxons.
I've always thought spear heads near the head meant died in or ready for battle. Spear heads near the feet were warriors or elders that did not die during fights.
It's very interesting to uncover & learn about these people but 250 years from now, I fear they will look back in us & roll their eyes at us as we do to those who robbed Egyptian tombs, stone henge & destroyed so many native American inca & Aztec sites. Because we should photograph, analyse, test all we like, then we should return them to their graves WITH ALL THEIR GRAVE FINDINGS OUT OF RESPECT FOR THESE PEOPLE'S BELIEFS. If you were a warrior who felt you needed your weapon in the afterlife who are we to say they are wrong & put their weapons in our museums? It doesn't matter what WE believe, it's what they believed.
You don't have o wait 250 years my friend. I am first nation in Canada where we have buried our people with pots and pans to cook their meals on the other side. the belief that they died on this plane and live in the next one. We still often feast our relatives who have gone to the other plane for four years. The practice has been lost due to colonization. I am really surprised that all the education and knowledge in that field, they don't know this and are making outlandish guesses.
What if the British government funded a scheme to systematically identify and properly excavate sites like this throughout the country? In other words, what if the UK chose to no longer rely upon chance and amateurs with metal detectors to shape its understanding of ancient/medieval Britain? Such a fantasy, I know. But still... what if?
I hope they don't. I just read where there are already so many ancient artifacts in British museums that they are getting rid of a lot of them because have run out of room to store them. So what's the point of digging up more? I think they should leave them alone in case some future archaeologists are better supported and able to preserve and learn from them.
I've always wondered...rhetorically, what gives us the right, legal or otherwise, to dig people up? Is it OK after a certain amount of time? Or if it's not a designated burial ground? I know it's done in the name of science etc., but I don't know if we should? Anyway, interesting program. Thanks!
Graves, like funerals, are for the living. The dead are gone. How they are treated depends on if there is someone left to defend them. Pathetic, yes. The native Americans, for example, have a terrible time with desecration of their graves and other sacred sites because they have so little power to defend them. These "Saxons" (or Saxon subjects) have nobody to defend them, so we dig them up. That's just the harsh, cruel, human reality of it. Most of us only seem to matter to ourselves and our immediate circle.
@@briangodfrey7424 Also, many of the people living in the area have a long lineage of living in the area. They're seen as ancestors and if their closest kin want to learn about them, who is anyone else to say no? How else can we learn about the past if we ignore graves? Isn't that potentially important information lost? Also, once a grave or graveyard is found, even if the professionals left it, is it a better outcome if the graves are robbed at a later date? Now we learned nothing, the dead were disturbed anyway and things would be stolen. I don't think that's better on any account.
The Saxons name comes from the Germanic word Seax , meaning a small shiv like weapon , or handle of a small shiv like weapon .. The Saxons and Vikings were racial cousins , and many of the GODs of the Germanic tribes were the same , as well as the runic letters , and symbols .
At 16:17, Tony shows his chauvinistic side when he seems dumbfounded that a woman could be a warrior after a spear and shield were found with a female burial. Yes Tony, women were are are warriors from the time of this burial and still are even today.
Tony isn't being chauvistic, far from it. As the host of the show, Tony is there to represent the common man, or woman, on the street who knows little to nothing about the ancient past, or how it might be interpeted, or deciphered. I'm quite positive that after so many years of hosting "Time Team", that he's learned a great deal about history, and the sciences of what goes into an archaeological dig. But, it's scripted out so that he asks the questions that any interested, unknowing observer might ask when watching people digging into mounds, pastures, ancient structures, etc. So please, unless you know far more than Tony Stewart does, would you be so kind as to leave your prejudices & political correctness at home.
Scythians had female warriors 1000 years before this Saxon period. Some scholars suggest Scotia came linguistically from Scythia. Ice Age Sahelians and Khemetians had maps, knew they were on a globe, and developed a solar calendar boats before Rome or Macedon/Persia existed. Greece was then Mycenae (visitor and professor emerita)
Yes,,,i get the documentation of old,,,...but it is still a grave,meant to be for eternity,,....so if these robbings,,go,,your disturbing their grave,....maybe looking,maping,these finds,,but to take,move,,hoard these,elsewhere,,,isnt allowed in forever,😮..forever is stopped when these are taken,,..so where is the gold,silver,gems,???...please reply
I'm always frustrated when we are given genetic and isotope information on corpses. how closely were these people related? did they grown up here or did they immigrate from somewhere else. Were they Germanic or had they interbred with the local Celtic population. what genetic diseases were these people prone to. Are their descendants still in the area or are they more closely related to a group elsewhere. Come on people!
A bucket would be something of high value to every person. To carry a fire, water, cook food in. So many things the bucket can be used for. A potty. I mean everyone would want and need one. Wood buckets for carrying water. or making a wine. It would be very personal. Double burials? I think it some kind of ritual thing. I am not sure of where these humans came from. That is to be announced later I am sure. Very important to know. In other parts of world people would be buried with a slave. Maybe? What I find interesting is that it is of different sexes and ages.
Carry a fire? These weren't Neanderthals. That's a different video. But you are certainly correct that buckets are very useful. Even to this day I keep three or four stacks of empty drywall mud buckets around because I'm always needing one it seems.
When he said something about Antioch?? 😅 my brain goes all Monty-Python, "so THAT'S what the bucket is!!! Behold, the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch!!!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 (*in my own defense, I couldn't HELP it 🤷♀️*)
16:15 Boudica and Cartimandua were not warriors😒 the Anglo Saxons were a warrior culture at their core and someone being buried with weapons does not at all mean they were warriors, this is something an amateur would say. I knew better than to say this and I have zero credentials, embarrassing🤦🏻♂️ "why not?" Because it makes no sense and there’s zero evidence for it😒
A a woman born in East Anglia but mostly raised in the US with a few years schooled in Lowestoft I love your shows. It brings me home especially when I catch a suffolk accent. I'm a proud relative of Amos Beamish the Famous Giant of Barnby he is my great great great... uncle.
how tall was he? and what ancestry?
I'm of British descent and can trace my ancestry for centuries. This show brings me close to my ancestors ❤
@@CemeteryHillFarmyes, you and literally anyone else of European descent...
A lot of words combined but no coherent sentences.. Quite impressive and simultaneously worrying.
My man rockin’ those jorts hard AF.
Real men wear jorts! LOL!
@@jbrunch8082 Agreed 👊🏻
If I owned land in the UK, I would spend the rest of my days digging holes.
😂😂
Nope. You’d spend every night for the rest of your life stopping randomers digging up your fields at midnight.
It freaking happens. All the time!!
People sneak in after dark and dig etc 😒
Go for it, good luck
Me too I find it so amazing what is buried under everyday field’s and garden’s I try and picture the people from that time and way before them it’s so fascinating to me‼️‼️‼️👍🏻😊
Try metal detecting instead.
Just noticed Carenza's sunburned arms, so dedicated! Love this team !
As always, a wonderful episode about England's rich history! I love the protagonists, some of whom are already legends!
All these double burials suggest something bad happened here…probably an attack. The burial with the infant/toddler was very touching.
Yes the burial with the two adults and the toddler pulled at the heart strings. The way the male in the left leaning in to the person next to him you can definitely visualise the funeral. Definitely the most emotional and moving episode
The Anglo Saxon period is probably my favorite for Medieval england
Mine too! ❤
they had town hall meetings and voted, just like New England did here, and we descend from that partially, in our colonial familes and in our colonial government, and now. Tun moot, and hundred moot. much more egalitarian than the norman conquerors, who turned them into an oppressed class.
Its stone, bronze, iron, Roman, Saxon, Norman and thén medieval. It’s the word for a separate time-period.
Wonderful explanation by museum why/how finding of amateur followed proper identification procedure thus encouraging Time Team investigation. That itself is exciting for public education.
More educators like this one from the museum are needed to help educate amateur diggers so that important finds like this are not damaged or lost.
Ancient history is so fascinating , especially when getting into the Greco - Roman periods , and that dark ages that followed after Rome fell mi- late 400s A.D.
The Spanish empire was a continuation of Roman ways , but was Christian .
Policies don't exactly encourage such proper identification. While some people are strictly interested in history, others are exploring for profit. Certainly that bucket held some value for someone it probably wouldn't help someone retire. But, find a horde of gold and they'll be lucky to receive a fraction of a fraction of the value.
The buckets fit perfectly into each other. A very space saving way to store them.
I have a theory about the large number of double-burials, with so much weaponry buried along with the corpses: there was an attack on the village, and those people buried together were relatives who died in the raid, the adults having attempted to defend the village. The fact that the one skull, at least, showed signs of blunt-force trauma could definitely point to someone killed in battle.
Like many of the peoples of that time period, the Saxons were a "warlike" folk (I mean what Germanic people WASN'T in those days?). They believed in basically the same gods and goddesses as the Norse (Vikings) did. To those people, dying in battle, defending one's home and family, would have been seen as a "good death," and they would have been buried with their weapons as a sign of their warrior honour.
If it was a raid, and a large number of family members were killed all at once (even the elderly and children were considered legitimate targets in olden times), it stands to reason that brothers would be buried together, children would be buried with parents, etc. This is all an educated guess, but I think it fits.
not only that , but once the nurturing adults were killed, the children would fare much worse and maybe die not long after, of pure neglect or lack of breastmilk, etc.
It couldn't have been a complete rout, or else there wouldn't have been anyone to conduct the funeral, and the most precious goods would have been taken by the victorious party.
father and son warriors that died in the same battle.
I was thinking something similar. It seems in the one grave it may have been a father and son buried together, both of whom who may have been killed at the same time, either in battle or as a result of an attack. Since there are fewer women, I can only guess they were taken and raped and either kept as sex slaves or were killed elsewhere.
@@tdpay9015 Yes. It most certainly looks like a battle and it sure looks like this village won it. The victors lose people in battles, too. But the victors are buried with respect. Losers who tried to kill your family definitely do not get buried with respect, if at all. (It's hard work to dig even a simple grave.) More likely they were left out for the wolves - who would have heard the battle and been waiting...
As a Medievalist, the Staffordshire Hoard and Sutton Hoo helmet are some of my favorite artifacts and in my opinion, are the embodiment of Anglo-Saxon Britain.
Interesting!)
"Medievalist" with a fascist Ukrainian emblem in your profile. I can see you are not one of culture.
"Medievalist" with a fascist Ukrainian emblem in your profile. I can see you are not one of culture.
"Medievalist" with a fascist Ukrainian emblem in your profile. I can see you are not one of culture.
I love the pace of walking, as if the artifacts were about to run and hide!
Tony has do much enthusiasm! He’s got a bunch of cunning plans!
I want everyone to understand what this documentary is getting at: which is, that artifacts discovered do not necessarily mean the people who made the item, ever lived in the area. I've seen so called archaeologists find an item older than the place they know the age of, then ascribe the item's age to the location, instead of ever thinking it was taken there. Ancient people were just like us today; they admired their treasures. They held in high esteem loot taken from their enemies. Monarchs and high officials hoarded war trophies, just as eagerly as WWII vets prized a German Luger. So, in such reasoning we must apply a simple logical deduction of if the item originates there or did it originate in a different year and location and eventually wind up where it was found?
I have abook from 1902, still in decent shape. But neither I, nor my parents, nor my grandparents lived at that time.
Totally understandable that things say in use. When you have a perfectly fine byzantine bucket, you keep using it. And when you perish, your children get your bucket, and then their children, and their children.
And that doesn't even account things things can travel. An object can move from generation to generation, each time a bit further, ending up somewhere completely different.
Just imagine what happens if future archaeologists find one of our modern day museums.
You are right i think.
These graves look a lot like ritual trauma graves from skandinavia. Viking graves.
This is one of the most interesting episodes.
Never an uninteresing one.
Certainly one of the more profitable digs. Finding those spears is exciting. I would like it if they found a bit of pottery with the burials.
There's a hole in your bucket, dear Tony, dear Tony. There's a hole in your bucket, dear Tony, a hole. 🎶🎶
Im so glad I was not the only one who thought of this!
Its in his head
Women always make the best archeologists. They LOVE digging up the past.
Know the past, most have its origin there ❤
Ugh.
I love the Anglo Saxon fondness for antiquities from other cultures.
Are you being facetious?
Awesome dig, love to have been there and lent a hand.
The literal meaning of 'kick the bucket".
Darn it, Patrick! You beat me to it!
💀🦵😂
Regarding the question as to 'why such young people would have been buried with weapons?' i would say it had to do with the warrior mentality of that age in believing that any afterlife would be a violent place where you had to protect yourself as this is all they knew like in norse views of the afterlife.
Looks like more than one person had kicked the bucket!
Groooaaan! (Embarrassed that I didn't think of it!)
I am reminded of the quip that explains the difference between the US and Europe: "In the US, 100 years is a long time; in Europe, 100 miles is a long way."
When you talk about 1500 years, I, as an American citizen, can hardly grasp it.
Hello from Forest, Ontario, Canada
In England one can throw a rock and where it lands a treasure of ancient history will be found.
From a complete amateur, but don't we know that the vikings had gotten around the Iberian peninsula and into the Med, and established trading ports?. That would seem a much more likely route for Levant produced goods like the decorated bucket, especially since the area being excavated is on the way back to Jutland and the Scandinavian countries. As to the nesting buckets, any bushwacker used to hiking into unknown areas has a set of nesting pots for cooking, carrying water, eating, and even carrying smaller items. If I was a warrior who had gone off to battle, I would have well used such a set. And of course you'd always carry weapons; pigs and goats just don't jump into the pot when you're campaigning.
Since this was so long ago I am hoping it includes all test results on the buckets . What was in each one which grave they came from ect. An update on anything else, after the program finishes… that’s what I wish to know…
The "Follow-ups" would be a great subject for the "New Time Team" episodes.
I have to believe it took you longer to type out that comment, than just type a few keywords in to google and read up on it some 20-years later.
@@maxdecphoenix thank you my dear for your sweet comment, I just had the biggest belly laugh ever.
Get over yourself 😳🙄😵💫
The English language is considered Germanic , and the word england comes from Angleland ; land of the Angles who , like the Saxons , and Jutes invaded England right after the collapse of the Roman Empire mid to late 400s A.D. .
It's fantastic how the Roman Empire lasted nearly 600 years !
the maggot spear head- might have had maggots pupating on it since it was covered in flesh and blood of the enemy. and sat outside for at least a day before buried ( flies laid eggs on it).
I truly wish I had been influenced when I was younger (I am 65 now) I would of immigrated to the UK to look for the lost history..., never was interested as a kid about "William the Conqueror" in 1066 (the only thing I remember as a kid from my history lessons)..., being from Australia. 😢
Doesn't every kid have that date drilled into their little head. FL/USA. 😂
as an american woman of the wild west and early colonial families, i can tell you why the women were armed. It is defensive. they lived in a hostile dangerous land that had enemies about, and they wanted to survive . the women were part of the defense, in the home and possibly outside it. Just like many of us American women were and are still today. "it was probably our ancestors" lol. i wouldn't be surprised. ever the colonist adventurers.
We defend the ones we love. Your comment makes me think of an anecdote from my grandmother’s childhood (approximately 1905, in a tiny settlement on the far south coast of New South Wales). A snake started coming up through a gap in the floorboards. Great grandmother grabbed a shotgun from above the fireplace, snapped the action shut & Joe Blake copped both barrels from the hip.
Side note: later in life, when I knew a little more, I questioned Nanna (ie my grandmother) asking “didn’t your mother have to load the weapon?”. Her reply was “oh no, all 4 guns & rifles over the fireplace were permanently loaded…..”
Hi from Oz🇦🇺👍
Even with a minimal education during Colonial times, first person singular would be a capitalized I.
"Fly puperia ... in association with the corpse" sounds much more pleasant than being eaten by maggots.
The stench would have been awful. Bodies when decomposing fill with rancid gas that will erupt suddenly. Hopefully the flies kept that from occuring
For anyone interested in Anglo-Saxon territorial and political history I strongly recommend Schwerpunkt's videos series
Thank you! I can't get enough of these medieval england videos!
Wow, what a treasure trove of history vids!
I don't think Phil's jorts are short enough.
Day 4… wow. The only one I know of. Very cool.
Other theory. The journey to the afterlife was more likely to be successful if not made alone. The weapons were for defense along the way.
I hope they do DNA tests on all the bones and add it to the DNA database that people today can compare to
Doesn't look like the bones are in good enough condition to still contain any DNA.
They couldn't because of the bone condition and they are contaminated by the soil
Still boggles my mind that ppl doubt the trade power of that time truly and amazing time
It's like the myth that all sailors stayed close to the shore rather than sail in wide expanses of open water. Sailing close to any coastline was far more hazardous than sailing in open water, and peoples of that time knew far more about sailing by the stars & sun than people do now.
Even if the globe hadn't been intensely mapped in the 6th century, I seriously doubt that the majority of the continents, and/or large islands hadn't all been either discovered or at least sighted. After all, we really don't live on that large a planet, and there are seriously old tales of trading with any number of different tribes & civilizations, on different shores by then.
I have noticed over 40 odd years of watching archeologists they have a tendency to transcribe their own modern “opinions” onto many of these finds. This is a serious problem as the non bias analysis of our history shows an unrealistic picture of many finds and events.
Which is why they try to use it being found in undisturbed ground as a validation of age of the dig layer, but true, it doesn't validate who created the piece.
Archaeologists are a odd mind, resistant and yet rush to determine it is the: "earliest, or validation of"
Only, of course, when it validated their predetermined Beliefs, Theory, and their "19th Century Theory based Paradigm and Linear Timeline", which defines "Mainstream Academia/Archaeologists"
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So much conjecture based on so few clues.
So why only have 3 days?
🎉Sandi Toksvig! Isn’t she from QI? My oh my, she is a lot younger. I had no idea how old this show was.
Cemeteries are bad places to hide treasure hoards due to the probability of them being looted.
I wish there was more information on which episode this is… he mentioned the 3 live episodes. Is that time team digs? I’m in the US and we haven’t been privileged with Time Team. I’ve been watching on RUclips but no idea which season it is… just a rough estimate based on Tony’s hair
Seven Buckets and a Buckle, Breamore, Hampshire | S09E13 | Time Team
One of my favourite Historians Alice Roberts
Less than a hundred years after Roman governance collapsed there was likely to be a lot of power grabs and warlording going on.
You spear and shield would be your best friend, and only your direct family could be relied on in a fight.
Oh, the mystery of the bucket . biggest Question- Did He kick it when He died....
LOL😂
Turns out this was a sub-group of the Jutes, a group called the Bucket People !!! Hyacinthe was descended from these people ! (Sorry to the young people, couldn't resist this whimsicality for us boomers !)
Breamore in Hampshire is where this is located. There are several museums the items could have been sent to, but I'm wondering if the Salisbury Museum was one of them since it's listed on the map. There are also bigger towns on the map, too, but I didn't see any obvious "Museum" markers for them.
My ancestor Geoffrey de Stapleton wed Alene Penrodus Comnenos of Cyprus 1180 , they are my 26th great grandparents. I have been wondering if she, or someone like her, was the owner of the nested buckets that Time Team found. 1180 is perhaps not as old as the Saxons, but graves persist, don't they? Anyway, food for thought. People from the Mediterranean often traveled, naturally easy by sea, and after all that is how the Romans took over way back. It's fascinating when buckets from the Middle East show up in British soil.
I'm American with German ancestory. Going way back with my own findings. The folks were very practical and only had useful items. Since the skeletons are buried in pairs with things, could the buckets be wedding presents to take take to the after life?
Watching this program makes me want to dig up my own backyard and see what I wind up with. Washington State does have a history.
Saxon Jackson was a popular entertainer in the day
I've often rhought the whole afterlife reason for burying valuables was a bit spurious. I think it was more likely out of respect for the owner and to reduce squabling between close relatives over the spoils of someone's death.
Because you assume your culture was similar to a culture over a thousand years ago? There's a lot of burial practices from our past that includes slaughtering servants, pets etc. And you think that was not so the important person would have their servants and pets in the afterlife, but instead it was about not sharing with surviving siblings?
@@joythought There are scattered instances of slaughtering servants, etc. Those are mostly the rich/powerful narcissists. The vast majority of everyday people were probably much more like the average people nowadays. They just don't make for good TV.
Perhaps a family cemetery of the owner/operators of a bucket manufacturing community..?
Alice Roberts and Helen Geake in the same episode....I'm a happy little vegemite!!!!
I haven't finished watching yet but is that not Alice Roberts working anonymously as a grunt, back to the camera in the trenches at 10:30?? This must be a very early episode.
What does the writing on the bucket say? What are the pictures on the bucket about?
why do you only have three days? wouldnt it be good to dig up the whole thing?
10:08 "These were rural folk with clean water and uncrowded housing. Two people just *couldn't* have died of a communicable disease at the same time. Much likelier that they left the grave open for new bodies to be added. Don't worry yourself that both skeletons appear to remain nicely articulated, in spite of the prolonged exposure I posit, or that those grave goods were left exposed along with the rotting bodies." =9[.]9=
yeah, it could have been just a few, not a raging epidemic. families living together would be vulnerable i f one got sick.
Even with clean water & uncrowded housing, Cholera outbreaks were still possible at that time. But I think that, as another commenter has suggested, that the deaths were likely caused by a sudden raid on the small community. It would explain the multiple double burials, and the blunt force trauma skull fracture on the one skull.
@@SierraThunder That would also explain the variances in ages in the burials. At least there were survivors to bury their dead, and valuable grave goods still to be had, which means either a raid was repulsed, or the deaths took place away from the settlement. ='[.]'=
I disagree with their conclusion that someone sat in that spot making flint tools. I think it is much more likely that they were made and carried with them as a bunch and something happened. The chances that someone sat there peacefully making them and then just left them there, while possible, I consider unlikely.
What they were showing are the waste flakes that are cast off when knapping flint. They would not moved them any farther than was needed so they wouldn't step on them and cut their feet. That's why it is safe to assume that someone sat there knapping flint.
We had 3 family members in 1920s that died of diphtheria in one 24 hour period. Very common.
Do you respect them and give them a proper burial when done poking them?
was it spears up if they were fighters taking out enemies, and spearhead down was for taken out without getting an enemy?
Hence. we have learned the exact origin of the phrase: "To kick the bucket"!
Bucket? It's pronounced "Boo-kay".
Sandi is always fun. I like her
I always found Margaret a handsome lass
Ive never seen someone point and gesture so much with their middle finger.
If it is so odd for a Saxon burial, maybe it’s not Saxon. What about the Juts who occupied the area before that Saxon invasion? Maybe these remains are Juts, buried with all those weapons, cause they died fighting so bravely against the Saxons.
They are most probably Angle as they are in Staffordshire which was in Mercia and sometimes people use the word "Saxon" referring to all Anglo Saxons
I wonder what Hyacinth Bucket would think of all those buckets.
Well, you know, they were all keeping up appearances. :D
Always thought Baldrick and Mrs. Miggins were kindred spirits.
LOve time team spent a lot of time watching them lol
How do they determine what graveyards are OK to dig up?
Maybe the buckets indicated they were dairy farmers who belonged to the local co-op
Im willing to chip in and buy Phill a longer pair of shorts and haircut
Shut up about Phil's shorts and hair. Phil is perfect the way he is.
This is all quite wonderful, but please! Antioch, now Antakya, is in Hatay Province in TURKEY.
I've always thought spear heads near the head meant died in or ready for battle. Spear heads near the feet were warriors or elders that did not die during fights.
So interesting!
It's very interesting to uncover & learn about these people but 250 years from now, I fear they will look back in us & roll their eyes at us as we do to those who robbed Egyptian tombs, stone henge & destroyed so many native American inca & Aztec sites. Because we should photograph, analyse, test all we like, then we should return them to their graves WITH ALL THEIR GRAVE FINDINGS OUT OF RESPECT FOR THESE PEOPLE'S BELIEFS. If you were a warrior who felt you needed your weapon in the afterlife who are we to say they are wrong & put their weapons in our museums? It doesn't matter what WE believe, it's what they believed.
You don't have o wait 250 years my friend. I am first nation in Canada where we have buried our people with pots and pans to cook their meals on the other side. the belief that they died on this plane and live in the next one. We still often feast our relatives who have gone to the other plane for four years. The practice has been lost due to colonization. I am really surprised that all the education and knowledge in that field, they don't know this and are making outlandish guesses.
@@regnepinak9864"Making outrageous guesses" is part of the job description of an archaeologist.
What if the British government funded a scheme to systematically identify and properly excavate sites like this throughout the country? In other words, what if the UK chose to no longer rely upon chance and amateurs with metal detectors to shape its understanding of ancient/medieval Britain?
Such a fantasy, I know. But still... what if?
well, do they really want to dig everyone up like that ?
I hope they don't. I just read where there are already so many ancient artifacts in British museums that they are getting rid of a lot of them because have run out of room to store them. So what's the point of digging up more? I think they should leave them alone in case some future archaeologists are better supported and able to preserve and learn from them.
@@briangodfrey7424I agree
I've always wondered...rhetorically, what gives us the right, legal or otherwise, to dig people up? Is it OK after a certain amount of time? Or if it's not a designated burial ground? I know it's done in the name of science etc., but I don't know if we should? Anyway, interesting program. Thanks!
Graves, like funerals, are for the living. The dead are gone. How they are treated depends on if there is someone left to defend them. Pathetic, yes. The native Americans, for example, have a terrible time with desecration of their graves and other sacred sites because they have so little power to defend them. These "Saxons" (or Saxon subjects) have nobody to defend them, so we dig them up. That's just the harsh, cruel, human reality of it. Most of us only seem to matter to ourselves and our immediate circle.
@@briangodfrey7424 Also, many of the people living in the area have a long lineage of living in the area. They're seen as ancestors and if their closest kin want to learn about them, who is anyone else to say no? How else can we learn about the past if we ignore graves? Isn't that potentially important information lost? Also, once a grave or graveyard is found, even if the professionals left it, is it a better outcome if the graves are robbed at a later date? Now we learned nothing, the dead were disturbed anyway and things would be stolen. I don't think that's better on any account.
The Saxons name comes from the Germanic word Seax , meaning a small shiv like weapon , or handle of a small shiv like weapon ..
The Saxons and Vikings were racial cousins , and many of the GODs of the Germanic tribes were the same , as well as the runic letters , and symbols .
What were the buckets used for ? Were they for waste material ?
33:25-- Jay Leno's ancestor?
Yes, they all have weapons. Dangerous times require Weapons for survival.
Need MEDIEVAL GOLD!!!
That one bucket could have been a baby Dalek.
I expected a album from the rockband Saxon! 😂
Made in Antioch? Did they find the holy handgrenade too?
What do they do with the skeletons discovered?
At 16:17, Tony shows his chauvinistic side when he seems dumbfounded that a woman could be a warrior after a spear and shield were found with a female burial. Yes Tony, women were are are warriors from the time of this burial and still are even today.
Go back to your safe space
Chauvinistic 😂
Tony isn't being chauvistic, far from it. As the host of the show, Tony is there to represent the common man, or woman, on the street who knows little to nothing about the ancient past, or how it might be interpeted, or deciphered.
I'm quite positive that after so many years of hosting "Time Team", that he's learned a great deal about history, and the sciences of what goes into an archaeological dig. But, it's scripted out so that he asks the questions that any interested, unknowing observer might ask when watching people digging into mounds, pastures, ancient structures, etc.
So please, unless you know far more than Tony Stewart does, would you be so kind as to leave your prejudices & political correctness at home.
Scythians had female warriors 1000 years before this Saxon period. Some scholars suggest Scotia came linguistically from Scythia. Ice Age Sahelians and Khemetians had maps, knew they were on a globe, and developed a solar calendar boats before Rome or Macedon/Persia existed. Greece was then Mycenae (visitor and professor emerita)
Interesting and informative video, but why in God's name did they think they needed a background drum track?
That';s a Byzantine BooKay! Not a bucket!
ha ha. good ole keeping up a-spearances
I think I’ll invite you to one of my candlelight suppers 😂
Are you still planning on completing and living in the apartment at the Convent?
Is the plan for Downey to move in with you in France?
Well that could be part of Harold's doing he went up the side raidding and aquireing material from the native English living there
Yes,,,i get the documentation of old,,,...but it is still a grave,meant to be for eternity,,....so if these robbings,,go,,your disturbing their grave,....maybe looking,maping,these finds,,but to take,move,,hoard these,elsewhere,,,isnt allowed in forever,😮..forever is stopped when these are taken,,..so where is the gold,silver,gems,???...please reply
Tony: That bucket could belong to Hyacinth !!
I'm always frustrated when we are given genetic and isotope information on corpses. how closely were these people related? did they grown up here or did they immigrate from somewhere else. Were they Germanic or had they interbred with the local Celtic population. what genetic diseases were these people prone to. Are their descendants still in the area or are they more closely related to a group elsewhere. Come on people!
Why do we have the music so loud??
im too poor to afford a gold/metal detector D: would love to metal detect.
A bucket would be something of high value to every person. To carry a fire, water, cook food in. So many things the bucket can be used for. A potty. I mean everyone would want and need one. Wood buckets for carrying water. or making a wine. It would be very personal.
Double burials? I think it some kind of ritual thing. I am not sure of where these humans came from. That is to be announced later I am sure. Very important to know. In other parts of world people would be buried with a slave. Maybe? What I find interesting is that it is of different sexes and ages.
Carry a fire? These weren't Neanderthals. That's a different video. But you are certainly correct that buckets are very useful. Even to this day I keep three or four stacks of empty drywall mud buckets around because I'm always needing one it seems.
"....powerful warrior womens!"
Less fantasy based speculation, more archaeology please.
Go, Helen go !
When he said something about Antioch?? 😅 my brain goes all Monty-Python, "so THAT'S what the bucket is!!! Behold, the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch!!!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 (*in my own defense, I couldn't HELP it 🤷♀️*)
WOW!!!
16:15 Boudica and Cartimandua were not warriors😒 the Anglo Saxons were a warrior culture at their core and someone being buried with weapons does not at all mean they were warriors, this is something an amateur would say. I knew better than to say this and I have zero credentials, embarrassing🤦🏻♂️ "why not?" Because it makes no sense and there’s zero evidence for it😒