SECRET WARS Setup in The Marvels Incursion?
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How does The Marvels set up Deadpool 3, Avengers Secret Wars, and future MCU X-Men movies? How exactly do Incursions work in this film compared to other titles like Spider-Man No Way Home and Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness? Erik Voss breaks down the history of the Quantum Bands in Marvel lore
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It would’ve been hilarious if Monica looked over and saw Quicksilver standing there and say “Ralph Bohner?”
I would love for this to happen, he’d be like WTF?
this is why im so hyped for this film. i saw the purple-y cracked hexagon things and i knew they were starting to get into the alternate realities in a science way instead of the magic way that was in No Way Home. they're starting to realize what Thor said, that Magic is just science that has not been understood yet!
Whenever I think of Wong speaking about magic skirting the known and unknown, I think about the narration Thor hears as he’s about to meet the Grandmaster: “Sakaar. Surrounded by cosmic gateways, Sakaar lives on the edge of the known and unknown.”
If the hex jump points are weak points in the fabric of our reality, I wonder if that would also apply to the numerous cosmic gateways that all lead to Sakaar? Maybe that’s the planet where the incursion first occurs and it’s the warning to all other planets in our galaxy that something is happening. Or maybe Sakaar will serve as the foundation for Battleworld?
It would be cool to see Loki v Kang using teams of heroes
Really glad The Marvels came out to FINALLY tie some of these concepts together it feels like it took forever 😩
I think the battle lines will be in Kang Dynasty not Secret Wars. The incursion chain reaction goes crazy in Kang Dynasty and it boils down to the last two universes that leads to X-men vs the Avengers but Kang takes advantage of the situation and uses the destruction of the multiverse to create Battleworld to survive the destruction. In Secret Wars it'll be about the conflict on who gets to be the one to reboot the universe Kang or whoever I think Loki will pick.
X men vs Avengers should be after the multiverse saga, like mutants saga
And WHY in your scenario would the X-Men fight the Avengers in the first place?
@@SpiderManMCUniverse So that their universe survives the incursion but just like the comic both sides get so caught up with the fighting that both universes get destroyed.
I don't believe Kang will be the one to create Battleworkd; in this one aspect I expect them to actually follow the comic storyline of DOOM being the one to claim victory. (though Doom might not be from 616, but rather from the X-Men side, but still recruiting Strange from 616)
@@sinteleon I more think Doom would be better served as a future villain then trying to be faithful to the comic because in the comic he is a established character with a lot of history whereas in the MCU he might only pop up in one movie.
I'd note that while the timelines are shown as a tree of life in Loki, they DO converge at the trunk before branching back out. That may be symbolic of battleworld where all timelines are converged at that point before being spread back out to grow and prosper.
Also still think Doom will hijack Kang's plot for battleworld the same way he hijacked the Beyonders' plot to destroy all reality, with the Beyonders in this case sort of represented by the Kangs.
I almost agree with you but I think Loki will take the place of Doom and create Battleworld as there is no other option. We don’t need Doctor Doom
i think they're hoping to portray Doom as an empathetic villain that would piece back the shards of a shattered multiverse after Kang destroys it.
So basically folks, you can except Secret wars to be big Mortal kombat tournament with marvel heroes, villains and everything in between for the fate of Intire multiverse
Or Smash Bros Ultimate. Everyone is here!
Basically yeah 😆
That sounds fun 😄
This video broke it down so well. I now fully understand the marvel timeline WAAY better.
I think you should explore a couple of Deadpool's abilities, 4th wall breaking and knowing he's a fictional character. With the time band maybe he expands that power and Loki recruits him to start collecting heros.
Loki needs to be the leader of the Multiversal Avengers team!
@@a1pha_star he is definitely poised to become Avenger Prime.
I hope they do that! I so wanna see Loki again 👀
You answered your own final question.
Deadpool and his time device are (possibly?) Outside of Kang's influence.
I hope they follow Hickman's Secret Wars story. If they do Doom could be introduced to the MCU
I'm even more excited for Deadpool 3, now. Hopefully people will realize we're only getting 1 Marvel movie next year and actually go see it instead of waiting for the streaming release date.
I think everyone is too obsessed with Loki's monicker as the God of Stories. What about how the final episode set him up as Loki Loaferson with those cute shoes?
Lol
So much story telling is possible now because of the multiverse I'm so stoked(1st time using this word)
Jonathan Majors is not done yet, he's just too good of an actor.
I hope. But if he did what they said he did... Idunno. Its almost like kevin spacey. 🥺
@@PROFIT_PR_ who has the burden of proof?
@@politicalaccountabletheory768I'll finish that thought in case no one gets around to it, or knows.
-- the claimant. And thank you.
The point is the trial will take too long
He's very compelling for sure
THANKS for this!!!! Frankly, the more X-Men the better!!!!
When did X-men get this popular I remember growing up before the mcu and they were not garnering this much hype. Like when did it start
@@omaranthony3703 I'm 55, so let me give it a shot and try to answer this question. :) The most popular superhero comic of the '80s to at least the mid- '90s (I read somewhere that if Marvel had *just* published X-Men back then, it would still have been in the top five publishers) became an animated phenomenon for pretty much all of the '90s and then became one of the best live-action superhero movie series of the '00s (and today, too!). So the popularity is inbred; few people in the United States don't know Wolverine. Fans always want their childhoods, and "X-Men" as a term now conjures love images in the minds of Gens X, Y *and* Z. So the idea of Marvel at its best integrating these characters into the world of Chris Helmsworth and (returning?) Robert Downey Jr. is beyond exciting for folks. What I'm still trying to figure out is this, and I'd appreciate help, RUclips: how did *The Fantastic Four* become so popular? Is it just that the Web needs a vehicle for enthusiasm, something to champion? The four-time-loser-in-film FF (and adjacent characters such as Galactus and the Silver Surfer) hasn't been hot to anybody in decades, so why do people care so much about the coming announcement of FF casting as I type this? Is it the same obvious answer here--the integration into the worldwide MCU phenomenon? I guess (?).
@@omaranthony3703I don’t think it’s mcu that’s made the x-men so popular - I think it’s the Hickman story arcs, which were sensational.
@@omaranthony3703 X-Men comics, animated series and the movies were all hugely popular compared to the rest of marvel, only Spiderman and the top DC heroes has been consistently more popular than them before the MCU. It was due to the movie rights that marvel started focusing less on them, since the characters who actually could appear in the MCU were more profitable for them.
@@alftuvik3820 even with that the hype being generated seems unwarranted like people are foaming out their mouths for the xmen not that it's bad or anything but with all the videos you would think they were cream of the crop if I'm being honest I only really started seeing xmen hype after Logan
The “multiversal” war as described in Loki will be the battle between timelines (not universes) and we’ll see that in Kang Dynasty. The actual multiversal war (between universes) will be Secret Wars.
The hex thing is interesting because clearly it ties to the 6 infinity stones that are birthed from big bangs.
Marvel makes no distinction between and
I think Dr. Strange is with the X-Men right now. Disney+ is playing episodes of cartoons combining Avengers and X-Men.
Dr Strange left with Clea into the Dark Dimension at the end of MoM remember?
Never thought we were going to introduce the X men, not through MOM, not through Loki, not through Quantamania but through 'the Marvels' movie. Really unexpected.
They must be trying to boost ticket sales in an otherwise mid movie.
So, since we left watching The Marvels... where the heck did the 2nd Quantum Band go? It looks like Capt Marvel was wearing it for a sec while carrying in the boxes of snacks, but that seems odd.
also Hexagon's are apparently not Bestagon's
I hope the Quantum Bands leads to Annihilation with Annihilus being a phase level villain (after Kang but before Galactus )
Why?
That sequence seems plausible and would certainly build up Galactus as a bigger threat.
I think Dr Doom likely comes after Kang, Galactus wouldn’t really be a big bad, though he’d definitely be a major force against the F4.
I’m still wondering where the Eternals are and why no one has addressed Arisham in the sky. And Khonshu turning back the sky lol
I think as the Gid of Stories, Loki will only be able to influence the war but not directly battle with any Kangs. I think he'll only appear to anyone by using his magic.
But he is a GOD
Would be so cool if we get He Who Remains and Loki back at the citadel in Secret Wars, having their final conversation
Because Hexagons are bestagons!
Im excited to see the GoTG team put in some work when dynasty or battle world happens
thanks for the video
Binary was wearing both the Quantum Bands so I’m sure they will find a way to send Monica back
I'm thinking this is where Cleo and Dr strange went aswell
Debbie downer here🙋🏾 there is still a large celestial in the ocean and even if the Sony & Fox verse joined up they wouldn’t be able to take on the queen of dragons. So there’s that….
Loki was way better than the Flash. DC should take notes.
why you mentioning dc lmao has nothing to do with this, stop the unnecessary comparisons
Exactly
Just wait marvel bout to start taking notes
The flash movie was my last hope for DC, unfortunately DC will never be what it could have 😢
Agreed 1000%
I think they're definitely going to have to do at least movies for secret wars.. one won't be enough to re-establish these characters and to get them to integrate with the others well enough for it to be more than glorified cameos
True. Or they can also use the cartoons to re-establish them. There's definitely a possibility for Disney to cut corners here just to get to the good stuff.
No secret wars needs it’s own phase
@@AgeofasaI occasionally see that said and it just makes no sense to me. If it’s going to be split, then they should just make 1 the main story and the other Battleworld with a full conclusion.
I’m sure they will. So much to unfold and it can’t be done with just one movie. Maybe a three part!??
0:28 4:11 Ngl, I did *not* notice Binary was wearing the Quantum Bands tbh, that's interesting
Things are picking up it’s getting very interesting 🤔
This movie definitely set up the biggest roadmap to the Multiverse Saga in the craziest way possible.
It would make sense for Loki and the TVA to recruit some supers. Duplication and Astral projection have been part of Loki's base powerset since that start of the MCU. If the Kangs start attacking the TVA to get Loki it would help to have a few Thors on the Team.
Kang dynasty be like loki who he remains playing chess 😂😅😊
Nice
I hope Avengers Secret Wars is a battle of Loki VS Kang
*has
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Thanks, Gina! 😺
i agree kang vs lokis teams but i think he who remains planned a lot of this out from the beginning
I think it's funny if Secret Wars has a sort of adaptation of 'Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe' subplot where Ryan Reynolds is just putting down castings he thinks doesn't in the MCU lmao
Well, it's definitely going to involve the TVA at least. If you remember, Deadpool was messing with the time watch at the end of DP2. That seems like a perfect excuse for him to be captured/end up at the TVA, though not sure how Loki Season 2 would impact that
Incursion will be occurring throughout phase 5 and 6
Soo hype for dp3
Love from Belgium 🇧🇪 ❤
The hexagonal portals remind me of Dr Strange's sky tearing at the end of the spidermen movie
whats the name of the background song it's really good :)
I would assume that the jump points never caused incursions before because He Who Remains was there to monitor when anyone would use these points. Now with him gone the connections of the multiverse are less stable.
What do you think about Loki being the beyonder?
Just curious for a broke boy in Co, will you film or livestream the meet up on the 16th?
Will someone be streaming your event live, either on Twitch or RUclips?
Hey Eric it would be great that they use the same dead pool because he not only has time travel but also crossed multiple dimensions the just add it in the of a marvel movie/show or in Deadpool 3 something like the aftermath of what he did which led to go to stop himself which ended up damaging his time watch and ended up in the marvel universe what do you think
I wonder if they would have made a difference in the battle of the Infinity war. Like how do they stack up to the space and time stones?
Martyn Ford should play the thing in fantastic four that's a perfect fit for that character❤❤❤
Secret Wars Avengers vs X-Men Style
Good video
8:49 rip
you should break down the entire phase 4 now that it has ended !
Deadpool 3 is going to be BONKERS!
@newrockstar this would be possible that the "gifted" would also be part of this multiverse?
Oh I didn't even notice Binary had the band's on
To me Loki Season 2, since the end of Season 1, has been, without a doubt events from phase 4 to the end of Secret Wars.
When you talk about Hexagons... look up honey bees and why they use hexagons. Hexagons use the least amount of material to make the strongest structure. Maybe it's for their strength?
I think we’re seeing Loki die again at the beginning of kang dynasty
Kang will have the SQUADRON SUPREME team on his side, whereas, Loki will have a team of AVENGERS by his side to fight in SECRET WARS💥🔥💯💯
What would be the motivation for a hero to want to join Kang’s team?
At 1:44 in the video when wolverine cuts that X, the four diamond shaped peices in the middle should have fallen out. They just float there after why?
Young Avengers and X men movies set up after the Marvels movie
I wish that Kang dynasty would end in a somber cliff hanger, similar to infinity war, where all hell breaks lose.
The Next major avengers movie opens with random cross over fights. Wolverine Is waking up, then all of a sudden vulture attacks him, Star Lord walking around earth then bam, the juggernaut appears.. etc.. all timelines melding into one
Cool idea
Fantastic news
but what is the motivation of kang ? what does he aim for ? rule the multiverse ( that he who remains did ) or something else because what will this whole council of kangs do ?
pls let me know !
If Deadpool is in the next avengers movies, it’s going to make for some hilarious chaos.
Some should make a video about what they think the teams in secret wars are going to be.
Its pretty safe to say that all marvel movies (live action at least, animated maybe) that have been made are universes parallel to the main MCU
So many projects now have tackled some sort of multiversal problem but also have solved each problem. So how can the Secret Wars movie have any pay out
❤ Fall of the house of usher video???
waiting for AvX..
Might be the bands that make them dance
Captain MONICA RAMBEAU 💫 saves the the 616 universe...🫡 this time. 🤔😉
You know fhe saying The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was making the world think he didnt exist... the mephisto dream is still alive!
Do you think Loki is worth now after s2??
You’ve made me think the hex’s are going to be the equivalent of the molecule mans big bang when it’s time for secret wars as it’s all around our universe for space travel and there’s always been a big emphasis on 6 in the mcu, could be the same in the rest of the multiverse. God knows if scarlet witch could be that person in every universe, maybe with Kang manipulating with his retro causality shenanigans or something but just a thought.
It happened fast, but did I see settlements on the moon in the X-Men universe?
1:28 is Kang wearing a purple variant of the Quantum Bands??
Hexagons are the bestagons.
Even tho I haven't seen the marvels which I will on Disney plus Even if it bad I like this video
The events in Loki season 2 also sets up the events of Avengers 5/6.
We're getting more than one front to fight on .... Infinity war gave us 2 we might get more with all the battle's happing
This movie was so damn good
One big question........Loki (both seasons) really takes place in like a month, no? Before yall talk about the centuries Loki took to study....I don't think that constitutes earth years, plus he just went back in time with the knowledge he acquired anyway. So back to my question, does every Post endgame movie/series apart from maybe FFH, WandaVision happen after Loki Season 2?
Would make perfect sense if Loki is setting all the heroes up because he is letting the Kang Wars play out while he sets up Secret Wars.
And quick sivver even pater
Please do the original Chris Hemsworth Cabin in the Woods
If Loki and Mobius are in Deadpool 3, then it is either set before Loki season two or they are alternate reality versions.
We also need a setup for Rhodey saying “Booom looking for this?!”. Am I right? No? Well 😂
Anyways. I really like you Kangs team vs Lokis team idea. I think I said it before though.
Bye y’all!
People need to reatch Thor2: Dark World. Odin tells the story how Maliketh created the Ether aka reality stone(liquid) as a weapon. If specific characters are being set up to either create or control infinity stones by Secret Wars then to keep the continuity straight, Maliketh would need to use Wanda as a weapon at some point.
I might be a little late to give this opinion but where does The Watcher figure into all of this? you gotta think this is his specialty so why hasn't he come up into any of these projects besides What if?
5 videos in a day … that’s that double release weekend shit rn there! Manz must be tired
do you think we will get x men vs avengers live action movie
I do specifically in Kang Dynasty.
my question is why would it be in Deadpool 3? can you explain