In the cold, that's isn't out of the ordinary for other EVs. Owners now seeing warm weather are reporting much higher efficiency than what we've seen from winter reviews.
I don’t know why a manufacturer would want to go all in on BEV’s only until the infrastructure is ready to support it. BEV’s suit a certain market and climate. ICE serve certain markets/customers needs. Toyota has their strategy right to give a mix of BEV, PHEV, HEV, and ICE vehicles. BEV doesn’t mean it better for the environment considering the precious metals required for batteries and the manufacturing and mining processes. Not to mention most of the other components are petroleum based.
What precious metal are required for EV batteries ? None as far as I know however you do know that all current ICE vehicles have platinum or rhodium in their catalytic converters and those are the rarest metals going (hence the high cost and why that part of the exhaust system gets stolen so much). By the way rare earths are not rare although the difficulty in separating a rare earth from very similar but different rare earths does tend to push the price up a little.
Ryan nailed it, the BZ4X is perfect for around town errands and daily commuting for the family with two cars but sucks for road tripping. Lots of room to take the kids to/from school and be a shopping cart. The body panels thing is weird to me and looks like mis-matched replacement parts after a fender bender. Just need some Bondo to complete the look.
50 grand to unchain yourself from gasoline just ... defeats the purpose. just buy a used car for less than half the cost and keep paying for gas until the price for BEV comes down.
There’s a part of me that wants to think this is a way to force people to drive less. They’ve tried proposing paying by the mile, etc and people would never go for it. So what better way to cut peoples driving habits down than to force cars upon them that have limited range and even more limited places to charge them? There’s definitely not enough charging stations being built for ie many EV’s are being put on the roads. Makes people think twice about taking a trip when they have to wait to charge or takes much longer to arrive.
@@Deetroiter the issue public chargers is that for the majority of gas stations very little if any profit was made by the gas station owners on the gasoline itself. All of the profit was made off of selling snacks and cigarettes inside. So public chargers would have to be linked to someplace like shopping, theaters/ restaurants ect .
@@BassRacerx Well, electric vehicles charge so fast, it's not likely there will be a captive market like old skool gas stations... /s in case you woosh'd
The reason for the gauge cluster placement in relation to the wheel I think is the fact that they’re going to replace the wheel with their variable ratio steering yoke in the near future. If you place the yoke the placement starts to make sense
Don't like the reasoning of safety? Much like a heads-up display, having it pushed back and above the wheel provides easier viewing. You don't have to refocus your eyes or take them much off the road to see that. With a traditional speedometer, there are sacrifices people have just grown tolerant of.
Nice review. Something not mentioned in the review but I would consider crucial in an electric vehicle is electric route planning for road tripping. I know there are apps available that will support the need but I think manufacturers should have a plan and build that into their systems.
I just bought a 2023 Toyota Corolla SE Hybrid All Wheel Drive. I would love for you to do an AWD test on it. Just curious how good the system is. I’m not around snow so hard for me to test.
The population in Bulgaria is 6 million people. Only 5600 all electric vehicles. More then 60 % of all 3,5 million vehicles are above 20 years old. In normal countries, people return old cars to scrap yard, but in Bulgaria we sale our old cars to each other. The average salary per month is 1000 to 1200 BGN. One 20 year old car cost around 1500 BGN ( 1 euro is 1,95 BGN, 1 USD is 1,85 BGN).
The Prius is what inspired Elon to start Tesla. He saw in California that there was an untapped market for premium eco-friendly vehicles. And he was already a car enthusiast to begin with. He wanted the likes of Leonardo DiCaprio to switch from Prius to a Tesla. Tragic how Toyota fell behind in the EV market.
Hello from Bochum, Germany. The video is now a year old, but that doesn't matter. Fortunately, there was a big update for the bz4x. Mine is coming in December. Each of the countless testers is enthusiastic about the driving characteristics. In Norway, the Toyota is ranked #2 in new registrations in October 24. The first gasoline engine is in 23rd place. That means something. The test drive was just impressive for me. After the first turn in the city (Dortmund) I felt very safe in the car. you don't notice the weight or length of the vehicle. in the usa it's certainly more of a small car 😅
It is really cool to start seeing these driving about up here in Montréal. I am really interested in the Solterra at some point. Do you lean towards the BZ4x or Solterra since you have driven both? I currently have the 2023 Crosstrek PHEV and am absolutely loving it for everything that I do in my active life. I would love to see a full electric Crosstrek sometime in the next 5 years. Thanks again for all of the great content.
I may or may not be able to adapt to the silly gauge-forward setup, but piano gloss black in any form is an instant no-buy from me. Make it optional, or make it go away. I'll even pay extra to NOT have it. The new Kona, ignoring it's polarizing exterior, NAILED the interior. Zero piano gloss garbage, no haptic junk. Just sold buttons and dials. An ergonomic win.
@18:20 Ryan, why not mention that the real reason for the hud behind the wheel is that the car is supposed to come with a drive-by-wire Yoke which does not block the view and allows the driver to go from lock to lock without having to let go of your hands. 'Murica denied the yoke on the bzterra but allowed it on the equivalent Lexus product. Go figure.
Honestly I hate how so many manufacture say support over the air updates. The only reason why it makes sense for Telsa is because "ALL" of their infotainment centers are identical. Unlike others, every few years its completely different system. So theoretically this sale pitch is unsupported for anything over a few years.
It looks like Subaru's only contribution was to make the ground clearance at least 8" and to program the AWD system. Everything else from the design to the buttons, the infotainment, and even the driver aids and beep sounds are from Toyota.
Hi, I have tested BZ4X twice so far. Everything about the car is great. But it consumes a lot and the battery runs out very quickly. Since you have a good relationship with Toyota, I would like you to forward this feedback so that the cars can be updated and the problem fixed.
This identical text has been posted on multiple reviews by you. As stated already, claiming "a lot" and "very quickly" won't accomplish anything. It is too vague.
I think gen 2 or 3 of BZ4X will be the one to buy definitely as that will have atleast 280-300 miles range. Good car for the looks and higher ground clearance.
great video as usual! :) FYI Peugeot use it's i-cockpit for some years already with a head up instrument panel and a compact wheel like they use on race cars. People loves it because it looks cool :D
I like your reviews because you usually crawl in the back on SUV's and I get a better feel than cubic feet measurements. Does anyone really use cubic feet? I get that you can compare to others using it, but if there isn't another to compare...? Much rather someone measure length. Can I car camp in it? How long a board would fit to the back of the front seat?
The issue with the cubic foot measurement is not everyone calculates it the same way. Subaru changed how they calculated it not long ago and the net effect was that the overall number went down even though there were no actual changes in the cargo area.
@@niuhuskieguy that's why I think length is a better way. If you tell me it's 7 feet to the back of the front seat I get a better feel. It tells me if I can put an 8ft lumber, or if I can car camp, etc.
@@darrylk808 Length isn't the only component of the measurement, height of the cargo area makes a difference as well. Its how the shorter but taller Forester and longer and shorter Outback have similar cargo capacities. Your specific needs would really dictate which is more important
I think there should be a industry standard sized box the size of a dishwasher or washing machine and the manufacturers have to state in their literature whether or not it fits with the seats folded down.
I’m fortunate enough to have a Model 3 as well as a Subaru Crosstrek. Honestly, I drive the Subaru more than the model 3. It’s a great vehicle but the Subaru is just easier to live with. Can go anywhere I want at anytime without second thought. And aside from the acceleration of the tesla, the Subaru is just more fun to drive. Seems like it would be the same case with this toyota if it replaced the model 3. It seems like toyota making an EV for the sake of making one. I love the classic toyota that used to make legendary vehicles (mr2, celica gts, the REAL Supra, FJ cruiser, etc) but have totally lost themselves now. Sad to say it but this EV proves their point of being lost even more. Not trying to sound harsh but no way around saying jt
@@Deetroiter Cross has 176lbft limited version and the standard range plus model 3 has almost 2 times the power, 310 lb-ft. Driving dynamics, I don’t see how it is more fun to drive than Tesla. Cross can probably go further on a tank and has more interior space. That’s all I can think of. But certainly not more fun to drive. I too love the Celica GT as well!
Yes, I can see that; there's much more to driving enjoyment than just power. Having one Subaru and likely subscribed to Starlink, one thing to note if you consider a Solterra because it may keep you in the same "subscription ecosystem" -- it won't. Ryan didn't delve into the center screen functionality much, but there were at least 2 subscriptions required to enable some of what he showed, and everything is paying Toyota (and Google) just to keep the basic functionality of that center screen, like the map (not that CarPlay can't replace it).
That's exactly what Toyota got out of this relationship, but they will still default to FWD for the fuel savings on most of their vehicles. The reverse is also true, the latest Crosstrek Hybrid uses Toyota hybrid technology and disengages the rear wheels by default.
It’s too bad Toyota couldn’t employ the Prius’ latest design team on this one as this is clearly a Toyota case of ‘must make it look different’ vs. ‘let’s make it look attractive’ and that reduces its desirability in magnitudes. The China market clearly illustrates the sales detriment of this strategy. Although the Prius also uses the forward-positioned driver’s cluster, its more rational overall interior design mitigates this questionable feature more than the BZ’s does.
Prius has a more attractive interior. Hopefully, the attractive bZ3X looks more like the Prius inside than the bZ4X. The bZ3X is an attractive car IMO (bZ Concept Compact Sedan). btw, the bZ3 in China has a nice interior, maybe nicer than the Prius. And contrary to what a lot of people say, it is a Toyota car, not a rebadged BYD even though it uses BYD batteries and motors.
I really don’t understand why anyone would buy this. Truly. Why not go ahead and get the Rav4 Prime. Much better performance and will be a solid reliable vehicle. This thing has been a disaster from the beginning. If anything, the Subaru makes more sense since it comes standard with AWD. This car is generations behind and I think Toyota is now realizing theyre very behind Tesla.
BZ4X is having a difficult time in Chinese market because of EV competitors. The initial MSRP was around $32k and dropped to ~$23k recently, but people are still not interested. It is such a big surprise to me as a Toyota fan. Chinese consumers used to love Toyota and a lot of people just buy Toyota cars blindly. But it is different now, people are honest with their wallets.
The market in China is loaded with very, very inexpensive plug-in vehicles. In fact, that's why 4X has a less expensive configuration there. But in comparison to those micro-EVs, the cost & efficiency is too much. Of course, that says nothing for the market here.
no thanks I prefer a small ev for city driving and my outback for the longer trips and this is what I did until I realised I prefer driving my outback and dumped the ev ....I even tried the BMWix3 and it was ok for a we weeks ....back to my outback and I'm so happy
1 electric vehicle uses 93 hybrid vehicles worth of battery and 5 plug-in hybrids. So you make one BEV and you lose 93 hybrids. The latter will have a far greater impact on carbon emissions reduction. Hybrid is still a 100% the way to go. $14 for 40 mins of charging cost almost as much as a combustion engine. Not to mention the convenience of gas stations and the ridiculously long range of a Hybrid. I get 550 miles range on my 2022 RAV4 XSE and it's an AWD and I love the way it drives. HEV's make no sense at this point, may be they will in 20 years.
@@drivingsports Only until the next tire rotation. There was already a second recall because some of the people doing the recall couldn't follow the process exactly right. How can you expect shade tree mechanics and the bulk of shops that are basically kids with impact guns to get it right. There's a real, valid concern for this ridiculous need to shave cost by using hub bolts instead of reverting to lug nuts when this issue first surfaced.
No, don't recommend the AWD. Not in North America. It has slower charging CATL batteries thst max at 100 kW compared to the FWD Panasonic batteries, and I have never seen it charge near that speed personally or with RUclips car reviewers, regardless of temperature outside. Also, not only is this car bad for winter road trips, but all longer road trips beyond 400-500 miles, because Toyota restricts fast charging to 2 cycles from 10-80% per 24 hours. This is buried in a tiny footnote on their faq, and their salesmen don't know about it. Sure, it's roomier than a Bolt, but at least the Bolt can hit advertised peak charging speeds, and doesn't restrict fast charging per day.
The amount of folks taking road trips in EVs is very low, it's a non issue for now. But Toyota will have to catch up over the next 5 years. The bz4x and solterra are good entries for them into EV.
@Driving Sports TV here in New York city charging stations aren't widespread yet...there are more Electric Vehicles in New York city than there are charging stations...it's nice the technology is there but adoption rate is slow here...I don't even wana talk about repair shop should something go wrong....
I takes as much power to recharge batteries from the grid since most countries are still using coal/gaz to produce electricity. Don't get fooled by the "it takes more energy to create hydrogen" mantra. And it takes more energy to create batteries than to produce an hydrogen car completely. That's not even counting on the polution it takes to create batteries (that are not made to be recycled yet), and we are left after with toxic waste of the production and disposal of the batteries. And this BX4X is a FWD Solterra if I understand this.
@@matthewjohnson1211 Me, I will go electric when the car's electricity comes from an alternator of some sort, not from batteries. Honestly, who thought that putting batteries in an already heavy vehicles like a car and add +1000-2000 lbs more would be worth is beyond me. And also the need to have 600+ hp and 600ft/lbs of torque electric motors is non-sense. Hybrid is a nice compromise for now and the best thing imo. But anything that requires to be plugged in to recharge is not the way of the future.
those little quicks-steering wheel in the way of instrumemt panel, iphone charger not reliable.....are irritating, they need to fix these. Also need cool software enhancements. Also can the engineers STOP adding a clucky computer screens and start embeding it into the console. Let Tesla have this.......everyone else mold it into the dashboard.
Isn't the charging issue more about the idiotic phone design given the number of flat changers in the world? That is a very Apple move really. As for the hydrogen crack. I'm holding out on that considering my province has just approved about 20 billion in investment from the European market. I'm thinking full electric is a stop gap due to the needed updates in the full electric infrastructure. Apparently the USA. Infrastructure would cost trillions and now that states have discussed limiting power it'll be interesting to see what wins out.
I sat in a Solterra and liked it. The main problem I have with EVs is that they still don’t make financial sense. The money you save from less maintenance is nowhere near the price difference. What’s even more bothersome is that they are taking money from working Americans to help subsidize EV purchases. If they can find a way to make this vehicle for 40k or less more people will buy, but in the current state of things I don’t see EVs becoming mainstream in the near future.
In Europe we're forced to drive these kind of cars because of the lunatic idea from politicians that we need to save the world from our pollution of CO2. In the mean time China,India and the America's are going on to expand and using more old fashion technics than what's used in Europe to create energy/electricity. It's not working this way and there is even a question from normal hard working people, is this really all necessary?
Part of the "sense" is that burning *anything* is killing the planet. All the EV status symbol vehicles will eventually fund EVs for the rest of us, though some of us may not be around by then.
That black painted front fenders looks like crap . Furthermore there are a lot of cheaper EVs that can travel further on a charge and takes less time to charge. And they have no spare tire or a glove box. I looked at the Subaru Soltera and was unexpressed.
They have no glove box because they have radiant heating. Radiant heating helps the HVAC system and warms feer and legs. However, there is no option for a glove box if you don't want it.
@@benjaminsmith2287 where are you going to put your registration, proof of insurance or any other pertinent information for the vehicle? People usually put these things in the glove box
Yup, just reduce the driving skills of people even more, and in the time it takes to get your hands back on the steering wheel and turn it, that moose will be sitting in your lap.... Or maybe the automatic braking will stop you before hitting the moose only to have the semi behind you drive over top of you.
I’ll watch your content to support you, because I think you provide the most real reviews… but I’m not going to buy an electric car. Especially this ugly thing lol.
Ill get this in limited over other clown looking evs like the kias and hyundai and specially vw less miles or not, most ev s give range anxiety ...oh wait, i did get one
Why would anyone spend $50k on this?!! Especially when there are cheaper alternatives that are far better in almost every ev metric.. This is WAY overpriced for the huge compromise your gettting. Short range, slow charge, terrible winter efficiency, rats nest parts and wiring integration, no Frunk and poor tech. You were way too kind in this review. Grandma's deserve better imo. Fortunately, I'm not the only one that has concluded this, as sales are very, very low. (for good reason) one could almost say the wheels have fallen off Toyota's ev reputation.....Would you buy this? I doubt it. Ok, as a around town car only? $50k! No way.
This is Toyota reluctantly and halfheartedly making an EV. This is way behind the competition but I’m guessing they won’t make many and they will sell on the Toyota reputation. The questions it how much market share Toyota will lose while it drags it’s feet. They need a bigger battery in this and bigger motor up front, perhaps the same one they put in the Rz 450 e. This is a very ugly vehicle but the Prius of years past proved Toyota has no problem selling ugly vehicles.
I disagree. I don't like the move toward bigger batteries. We need a better charging infrastructure so people can charge without worry increments. Yes, if you put a bigger battery in it it'll get better range, but the move toward bigger batteries means using more resources which is not a good thing.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Agreed. I think there also should be much more emphasis on wireless in-road charging so you don't actually have to stop at all to power your vehicle and top off your smaller, lighter battery (to make it to the next section of in-road charging).
Toyota used to be known for bland styling and now has a most hideous design language that makes me wonder who could have ever approved the rolling gargoyles produced by Toyota these days. No spare tire, massive glass roof (yuck), slow charging, Toyota styling, that stunningly ugly dashboard, piano black trim, no Frunk, and Toyota’s stingy subscriptions for features all equal a no sale. Bridgestone tires are also a no-no. Maybe the Man Bun crowd will like this, but not me.🤢🤮
What really shocks me is that Toyota faced backlash for putting piano black in their last generation Prius and then took it out because of the scratches, etc. why on earth would they put it back in again on this when they know it was a terrible idea before?
This is ridiculous, 250 miles range for a $50,000 dollars car? That means that if they come up with a car that costs $25,000 dollars for poor people like me it means it's going to give us a POS battery that's going to be 100 miles range and it will be plain like a car from the 80s. They are doing this for a reason.
It is like Toyota deliberately put all its effort to make the worse electric car the they could humanly build !!! What a disappointment …. Almost any other electric car is better than that …ugly, slow , no frunk, small … why did they even bother !!!!
To get the U.S. government and the leftist environmentalists off their back. Toyota owns the hybrid market, and their hybrids have been best in class for many years. Toyota isn't stupid: watch what they do, and ignore the bedwetting auto journalist BS.
BZ4x sounds like Elon’s next child
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Limited - BZ4X brings new meaning to the word with 160 mi real world range.
In the cold, that's isn't out of the ordinary for other EVs. Owners now seeing warm weather are reporting much higher efficiency than what we've seen from winter reviews.
I don’t know why a manufacturer would want to go all in on BEV’s only until the infrastructure is ready to support it. BEV’s suit a certain market and climate. ICE serve certain markets/customers needs. Toyota has their strategy right to give a mix of BEV, PHEV, HEV, and ICE vehicles. BEV doesn’t mean it better for the environment considering the precious metals required for batteries and the manufacturing and mining processes. Not to mention most of the other components are petroleum based.
What precious metal are required for EV batteries ? None as far as I know however you do know that all current ICE vehicles have platinum or rhodium in their catalytic converters and those are the rarest metals going (hence the high cost and why that part of the exhaust system gets stolen so much). By the way rare earths are not rare although the difficulty in separating a rare earth from very similar but different rare earths does tend to push the price up a little.
Ryan nailed it, the BZ4X is perfect for around town errands and daily commuting for the family with two cars but sucks for road tripping. Lots of room to take the kids to/from school and be a shopping cart. The body panels thing is weird to me and looks like mis-matched replacement parts after a fender bender. Just need some Bondo to complete the look.
50 grand to unchain yourself from gasoline just ... defeats the purpose. just buy a used car for less than half the cost and keep paying for gas until the price for BEV comes down.
There’s a part of me that wants to think this is a way to force people to drive less. They’ve tried proposing paying by the mile, etc and people would never go for it. So what better way to cut peoples driving habits down than to force cars upon them that have limited range and even more limited places to charge them? There’s definitely not enough charging stations being built for ie many EV’s are being put on the roads. Makes people think twice about taking a trip when they have to wait to charge or takes much longer to arrive.
@@Deetroiter the issue public chargers is that for the majority of gas stations very little if any profit was made by the gas station owners on the gasoline itself. All of the profit was made off of selling snacks and cigarettes inside. So public chargers would have to be linked to someplace like shopping, theaters/ restaurants ect .
@@BassRacerx Well, electric vehicles charge so fast, it's not likely there will be a captive market like old skool gas stations...
/s in case you woosh'd
The front drivers fender def. looks like it's ve massively scrapped.
The reason for the gauge cluster placement in relation to the wheel I think is the fact that they’re going to replace the wheel with their variable ratio steering yoke in the near future. If you place the yoke the placement starts to make sense
Yes. But they're doing the same with the Prius design that I don't think is going to get the variable steer by wire yoke.
Don't like the reasoning of safety? Much like a heads-up display, having it pushed back and above the wheel provides easier viewing. You don't have to refocus your eyes or take them much off the road to see that. With a traditional speedometer, there are sacrifices people have just grown tolerant of.
Nice review. Something not mentioned in the review but I would consider crucial in an electric vehicle is electric route planning for road tripping. I know there are apps available that will support the need but I think manufacturers should have a plan and build that into their systems.
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video I just took possession of the nissan leaf I was lucky to find 1
Wait, 50K for a FWD?
Okay, it must be my age. I am STILL laughing at that joke!!! lol
True that is kinda Polestar 2 FWD price.
50K for a FWD and a terrible range. So bad
Psst the joke is our economy
@@dheeranvinoth6258 You can say that again.
Fail Wheel Drive!
194 is good torque but it is not that much is it? It's around 270Nm. Good number but a mini cooper puts out about the same...
I've had mine 3 weeks. Love it.
God the ergonomics of the interior look disastrous. You were being too nice lol
I see why you say that but they are actually really comfortable to drive.
Elegant and futuristic design at the same time.
🙏🏼Thanks always for share. 🏆🥇
Thank you for the video!! I want one!
Ryan, 20 inch wheels make no sense whatsoever on a vehicle focused on efficiency. 🤨
How do Tesla owners react when you tell them the same thing?
What is the use of the different driving modes for a FWD and without a spare wheel?
I just bought a 2023 Toyota Corolla SE Hybrid All Wheel Drive. I would love for you to do an AWD test on it. Just curious how good the system is. I’m not around snow so hard for me to test.
The population in Bulgaria is 6 million people. Only 5600 all electric vehicles.
More then 60 % of all 3,5 million vehicles are above 20 years old.
In normal countries, people return old cars to scrap yard, but in Bulgaria we sale our old cars to each other. The average salary per month is 1000 to 1200 BGN. One 20 year old car cost around 1500 BGN ( 1 euro is 1,95 BGN, 1 USD is 1,85 BGN).
250 miles are 402 kilometers. The distance between east coast and west side border of Bulgaria is 550 kilometers
The Prius is what inspired Elon to start Tesla. He saw in California that there was an untapped market for premium eco-friendly vehicles. And he was already a car enthusiast to begin with. He wanted the likes of Leonardo DiCaprio to switch from Prius to a Tesla. Tragic how Toyota fell behind in the EV market.
No. It isn't tragic for Toyota. I believe you'll see that Toyota will have played this bogus EV game brilliantly.
"I’m impressed by how Toyota combined eco-friendliness with cutting-edge technology in this SUV."
Hello from Bochum, Germany. The video is now a year old, but that doesn't matter. Fortunately, there was a big update for the bz4x. Mine is coming in December. Each of the countless testers is enthusiastic about the driving characteristics. In Norway, the Toyota is ranked #2 in new registrations in October 24. The first gasoline engine is in 23rd place. That means something. The test drive was just impressive for me. After the first turn in the city (Dortmund) I felt very safe in the car. you don't notice the weight or length of the vehicle. in the usa it's certainly more of a small car 😅
Heads up, ~30KW usually indicates a broken Electrify America charger
It is really cool to start seeing these driving about up here in Montréal. I am really interested in the Solterra at some point. Do you lean towards the BZ4x or Solterra since you have driven both? I currently have the 2023 Crosstrek PHEV and am absolutely loving it for everything that I do in my active life. I would love to see a full electric Crosstrek sometime in the next 5 years. Thanks again for all of the great content.
Both the Bz4x and the Solterra are designed, engineered and manufactured by Toyota so either works.
The chime alone would drive me right to the Subaru dealer. I never liked the chime Toyota used on it. I believe the new Prius is using the same one.
The BZ4x was made for a yoke steering wheel but sadly not allowed on any cars in UK due to Government Restrictions
I may or may not be able to adapt to the silly gauge-forward setup, but piano gloss black in any form is an instant no-buy from me. Make it optional, or make it go away. I'll even pay extra to NOT have it. The new Kona, ignoring it's polarizing exterior, NAILED the interior. Zero piano gloss garbage, no haptic junk. Just sold buttons and dials. An ergonomic win.
I work at a Toyota in FL. Let me know if you’re interested in a blacked out BZ4X
@18:20 Ryan, why not mention that the real reason for the hud behind the wheel is that the car is supposed to come with a drive-by-wire Yoke which does not block the view and allows the driver to go from lock to lock without having to let go of your hands. 'Murica denied the yoke on the bzterra but allowed it on the equivalent Lexus product. Go figure.
Honestly I hate how so many manufacture say support over the air updates. The only reason why it makes sense for Telsa is because "ALL" of their infotainment centers are identical. Unlike others, every few years its completely different system. So theoretically this sale pitch is unsupported for anything over a few years.
It looks like Subaru's only contribution was to make the ground clearance at least 8" and to program the AWD system. Everything else from the design to the buttons, the infotainment, and even the driver aids and beep sounds are from Toyota.
All the weird black accents are Subaru style.
I’d happily sacrifice two or three years of lifetime for the battery if it can eventually charge faster.
Hi, I have tested BZ4X twice so far. Everything about the car is great. But it consumes a lot and the battery runs out very quickly. Since you have a good relationship with Toyota, I would like you to forward this feedback so that the cars can be updated and the problem fixed.
This identical text has been posted on multiple reviews by you. As stated already, claiming "a lot" and "very quickly" won't accomplish anything. It is too vague.
I think gen 2 or 3 of BZ4X will be the one to buy definitely as that will have atleast 280-300 miles range. Good car for the looks and higher ground clearance.
great video as usual! :) FYI Peugeot use it's i-cockpit for some years already with a head up instrument panel and a compact wheel like they use on race cars. People loves it because it looks cool :D
I like your reviews because you usually crawl in the back on SUV's and I get a better feel than cubic feet measurements. Does anyone really use cubic feet? I get that you can compare to others using it, but if there isn't another to compare...? Much rather someone measure length. Can I car camp in it? How long a board would fit to the back of the front seat?
The issue with the cubic foot measurement is not everyone calculates it the same way. Subaru changed how they calculated it not long ago and the net effect was that the overall number went down even though there were no actual changes in the cargo area.
@@niuhuskieguy that's why I think length is a better way. If you tell me it's 7 feet to the back of the front seat I get a better feel. It tells me if I can put an 8ft lumber, or if I can car camp, etc.
@@darrylk808 Length isn't the only component of the measurement, height of the cargo area makes a difference as well. Its how the shorter but taller Forester and longer and shorter Outback have similar cargo capacities. Your specific needs would really dictate which is more important
I think there should be a industry standard sized box the size of a dishwasher or washing machine and the manufacturers have to state in their literature whether or not it fits with the seats folded down.
@@alsheremeta 👏👏👏
50k for a crossover. Insanity. This is why most people will stick with cheap ice vehicles
Loves the high ground clearance but the Volkswagen ID.4 Pro S still much better including cheaper price point.
The car looks like it’s had an accident in the front 🤦♂️
And they didn’t have the correct parts to put it back together.
The person who developed Toyota and Lexus design language should be banned from the automotive industry for life
And you had one in your shorts.
BZ4X seems like an appropriate name for a Toyota electric vehicle.
would have been better if they called it 2BZ4SX
VW = ID.4
Kia = EV6
Tesla = M3
BMW = iX
I’m fortunate enough to have a Model 3 as well as a Subaru Crosstrek. Honestly, I drive the Subaru more than the model 3. It’s a great vehicle but the Subaru is just easier to live with. Can go anywhere I want at anytime without second thought. And aside from the acceleration of the tesla, the Subaru is just more fun to drive. Seems like it would be the same case with this toyota if it replaced the model 3. It seems like toyota making an EV for the sake of making one. I love the classic toyota that used to make legendary vehicles (mr2, celica gts, the REAL Supra, FJ cruiser, etc) but have totally lost themselves now. Sad to say it but this EV proves their point of being lost even more. Not trying to sound harsh but no way around saying jt
The Crosstrek is more fun to drive than the Model 3?
@@drakkarc558 yes. Two entirely different vehicles but the Crosstrek, at least the limited model, is the more total package
@@Deetroiter Cross has 176lbft limited version and the standard range plus model 3 has almost 2 times the power, 310 lb-ft. Driving dynamics, I don’t see how it is more fun to drive than Tesla. Cross can probably go further on a tank and has more interior space. That’s all I can think of. But certainly not more fun to drive. I too love the Celica GT as well!
Yes, I can see that; there's much more to driving enjoyment than just power.
Having one Subaru and likely subscribed to Starlink, one thing to note if you consider a Solterra because it may keep you in the same "subscription ecosystem" -- it won't. Ryan didn't delve into the center screen functionality much, but there were at least 2 subscriptions required to enable some of what he showed, and everything is paying Toyota (and Google) just to keep the basic functionality of that center screen, like the map (not that CarPlay can't replace it).
I wish subaru would share their AWD technology for Toyota hybrid system 😢
That's exactly what Toyota got out of this relationship, but they will still default to FWD for the fuel savings on most of their vehicles. The reverse is also true, the latest Crosstrek Hybrid uses Toyota hybrid technology and disengages the rear wheels by default.
RAV4 2023 Woodland Hybrid please!? Big fan
When would you test the new ascent and outback touring?
While I am watching this great review, I am curious which telephoto lens was used for recording?
Is it available in Canada ? Price ?
It’s too bad Toyota couldn’t employ the Prius’ latest design team on this one as this is clearly a Toyota case of ‘must make it look different’ vs. ‘let’s make it look attractive’ and that reduces its desirability in magnitudes. The China market clearly illustrates the sales detriment of this strategy. Although the Prius also uses the forward-positioned driver’s cluster, its more rational overall interior design mitigates this questionable feature more than the BZ’s does.
Prius has a more attractive interior. Hopefully, the attractive bZ3X looks more like the Prius inside than the bZ4X. The bZ3X is an attractive car IMO (bZ Concept Compact Sedan). btw, the bZ3 in China has a nice interior, maybe nicer than the Prius. And contrary to what a lot of people say, it is a Toyota car, not a rebadged BYD even though it uses BYD batteries and motors.
Looks like you tore the front quarter panel off. Yikes!!
I really don’t understand why anyone would buy this. Truly. Why not go ahead and get the Rav4 Prime. Much better performance and will be a solid reliable vehicle. This thing has been a disaster from the beginning. If anything, the Subaru makes more sense since it comes standard with AWD. This car is generations behind and I think Toyota is now realizing theyre very behind Tesla.
BZ4X is having a difficult time in Chinese market because of EV competitors. The initial MSRP was around $32k and dropped to ~$23k recently, but people are still not interested. It is such a big surprise to me as a Toyota fan. Chinese consumers used to love Toyota and a lot of people just buy Toyota cars blindly. But it is different now, people are honest with their wallets.
The market in China is loaded with very, very inexpensive plug-in vehicles. In fact, that's why 4X has a less expensive configuration there. But in comparison to those micro-EVs, the cost & efficiency is too much. Of course, that says nothing for the market here.
Better than ioniq 5 and KIA ev6 and Nissan ariya
The front looks like iron man's mask
no thanks I prefer a small ev for city driving and my outback for the longer trips and this is what I did until I realised I prefer driving my outback and dumped the ev ....I even tried the BMWix3 and it was ok for a we weeks ....back to my outback and I'm so happy
Where is your review of the Lexus Rz
We didn’t do that launch. Will get it from fleet soon.
did the wheels fall off?
You'd have to click CTRL ALT DEL for that... Get it? it's an EV... Okay, done with the DAD jokes.. lol
All they had to do was give it faster dc charging to keep it in the conversation.
1 electric vehicle uses 93 hybrid vehicles worth of battery and 5 plug-in hybrids. So you make one BEV and you lose 93 hybrids. The latter will have a far greater impact on carbon emissions reduction. Hybrid is still a 100% the way to go. $14 for 40 mins of charging cost almost as much as a combustion engine. Not to mention the convenience of gas stations and the ridiculously long range of a Hybrid. I get 550 miles range on my 2022 RAV4 XSE and it's an AWD and I love the way it drives.
HEV's make no sense at this point, may be they will in 20 years.
I'm just here to request the Chrysler Pacifica AWD. Yes... I'm a minivan dad.
What about the recall wheels falling off
Fixed.
@@drivingsports In October of 2022.
😂/❤
@@drivingsports Only until the next tire rotation. There was already a second recall because some of the people doing the recall couldn't follow the process exactly right. How can you expect shade tree mechanics and the bulk of shops that are basically kids with impact guns to get it right. There's a real, valid concern for this ridiculous need to shave cost by using hub bolts instead of reverting to lug nuts when this issue first surfaced.
No, don't recommend the AWD. Not in North America. It has slower charging CATL batteries thst max at 100 kW compared to the FWD Panasonic batteries, and I have never seen it charge near that speed personally or with RUclips car reviewers, regardless of temperature outside. Also, not only is this car bad for winter road trips, but all longer road trips beyond 400-500 miles, because Toyota restricts fast charging to 2 cycles from 10-80% per 24 hours. This is buried in a tiny footnote on their faq, and their salesmen don't know about it. Sure, it's roomier than a Bolt, but at least the Bolt can hit advertised peak charging speeds, and doesn't restrict fast charging per day.
The amount of folks taking road trips in EVs is very low, it's a non issue for now. But Toyota will have to catch up over the next 5 years. The bz4x and solterra are good entries for them into EV.
Can I charge this at home ?
Yes, but you should get a L2 charging terminal (typically costs $500-1000 to install)
@Driving Sports TV here in New York city charging stations aren't widespread yet...there are more Electric Vehicles in New York city than there are charging stations...it's nice the technology is there but adoption rate is slow here...I don't even wana talk about repair shop should something go wrong....
Looks a lot like the solterra for sure
I takes as much power to recharge batteries from the grid since most countries are still using coal/gaz to produce electricity. Don't get fooled by the "it takes more energy to create hydrogen" mantra. And it takes more energy to create batteries than to produce an hydrogen car completely. That's not even counting on the polution it takes to create batteries (that are not made to be recycled yet), and we are left after with toxic waste of the production and disposal of the batteries.
And this BX4X is a FWD Solterra if I understand this.
I’ve done a lot thinking about E.V.’s over the last year and I’m losing my excitement for a variety of reasons -for now it’s hybrid for me!
@@matthewjohnson1211 Me, I will go electric when the car's electricity comes from an alternator of some sort, not from batteries.
Honestly, who thought that putting batteries in an already heavy vehicles like a car and add +1000-2000 lbs more would be worth is beyond me. And also the need to have 600+ hp and 600ft/lbs of torque electric motors is non-sense.
Hybrid is a nice compromise for now and the best thing imo. But anything that requires to be plugged in to recharge is not the way of the future.
6'1 legs torso proportionate
It is so badly designed that it feels like a compliance vehicle.
We had a whole section on the purpose of compliance cars, but it kind of just meandered, so I cut it out. But you’re completely right.
Why not test Drive a new Leaf. Love my 2022!
Toyota's doing what Kia/Hyundai did back in the 2015s with their electric cars. It just not paying attention to the details. Very unlike Toyoda.
The future is the hydrogen cars!! I'm cheesed of saying it!!
those little quicks-steering wheel in the way of instrumemt panel, iphone charger not reliable.....are irritating, they need to fix these. Also need cool software enhancements. Also can the engineers STOP adding a clucky computer screens and start embeding it into the console. Let Tesla have this.......everyone else mold it into the dashboard.
i live in MN. oh well!
Isn't the charging issue more about the idiotic phone design given the number of flat changers in the world? That is a very Apple move really. As for the hydrogen crack. I'm holding out on that considering my province has just approved about 20 billion in investment from the European market. I'm thinking full electric is a stop gap due to the needed updates in the full electric infrastructure. Apparently the USA. Infrastructure would cost trillions and now that states have discussed limiting power it'll be interesting to see what wins out.
There are also a number of android phones with large camera modules. I just don’t happen to have one.
I sat in a Solterra and liked it. The main problem I have with EVs is that they still don’t make financial sense. The money you save from less maintenance is nowhere near the price difference. What’s even more bothersome is that they are taking money from working Americans to help subsidize EV purchases.
If they can find a way to make this vehicle for 40k or less more people will buy, but in the current state of things I don’t see EVs becoming mainstream in the near future.
Chevy Bolt
In Europe we're forced to drive these kind of cars because of the lunatic idea from politicians that we need to save the world from our pollution of CO2. In the mean time China,India and the America's are going on to expand and using more old fashion technics than what's used in Europe to create energy/electricity. It's not working this way and there is even a question from normal hard working people, is this really all necessary?
Part of the "sense" is that burning *anything* is killing the planet. All the EV status symbol vehicles will eventually fund EVs for the rest of us, though some of us may not be around by then.
50k for a fwd junk with 200m real world range is a joke compared to a Tesla
But the owners of Toyota don't give a worldwide platform to people like Andrew Anglin (look him up).
Junk? Anyone promoting a Tesla calling any Toyota "junk" has no perception of quality.
That black painted front fenders looks like crap .
Furthermore there are a lot of cheaper EVs that can travel further on a charge and takes less time to charge.
And they have no spare tire or a glove box.
I looked at the Subaru Soltera and was unexpressed.
They have no glove box because they have radiant heating. Radiant heating helps the HVAC system and warms feer and legs. However, there is no option for a glove box if you don't want it.
@@benjaminsmith2287 where are you going to put your registration, proof of insurance or any other pertinent information for the vehicle?
People usually put these things in the glove box
That thing sucks. It will stay on the sales lot as far as I’m concerned. Toyota failed with this one.
Not bad ..
why buy a brz when they are going ton concentrate on hydrogen vehicles.
With all respect hands free in a car it’s just for lazy people and make people useless
Yup, just reduce the driving skills of people even more, and in the time it takes to get your hands back on the steering wheel and turn it, that moose will be sitting in your lap.... Or maybe the automatic braking will stop you before hitting the moose only to have the semi behind you drive over top of you.
The PRICE!!! For a FWD!!! 😂😂😂 no wonder a crash is coming.
Why don't you flip your phone?
I’ll watch your content to support you, because I think you provide the most real reviews… but I’m not going to buy an electric car. Especially this ugly thing lol.
How dare you TOYOTA sending a car with materials worst than piano black 😅 anything but piano black please
Take that silly phone case and it will charge😊
The camera module is not part of the case. The lenses stick out.
Ill get this in limited over other clown looking evs like the kias and hyundai and specially vw less miles or not, most ev s give range anxiety ...oh wait, i did get one
love blaming the car for your phone's camera interfering with induction charging.
It works on a some other vehicle’s inductive chargers. (More powerful perhaps?) So the difference is the vehicle.
Why would anyone spend $50k on this?!! Especially when there are cheaper alternatives that are far better in almost every ev metric.. This is WAY overpriced for the huge compromise your gettting. Short range, slow charge, terrible winter efficiency, rats nest parts and wiring integration, no Frunk and poor tech. You were way too kind in this review. Grandma's deserve better imo. Fortunately, I'm not the only one that has concluded this, as sales are very, very low. (for good reason) one could almost say the wheels have fallen off Toyota's ev reputation.....Would you buy this? I doubt it. Ok, as a around town car only? $50k! No way.
Interesting, other reviewers rated this car as terrible, the worst Toyota car around,
Just wooow. Where did you get that... stufff?😂Ii mean its great
This is Toyota reluctantly and halfheartedly making an EV. This is way behind the competition but I’m guessing they won’t make many and they will sell on the Toyota reputation. The questions it how much market share Toyota will lose while it drags it’s feet. They need a bigger battery in this and bigger motor up front, perhaps the same one they put in the Rz 450 e. This is a very ugly vehicle but the Prius of years past proved Toyota has no problem selling ugly vehicles.
I disagree. I don't like the move toward bigger batteries. We need a better charging infrastructure so people can charge without worry increments. Yes, if you put a bigger battery in it it'll get better range, but the move toward bigger batteries means using more resources which is not a good thing.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Agreed. I think there also should be much more emphasis on wireless in-road charging so you don't actually have to stop at all to power your vehicle and top off your smaller, lighter battery (to make it to the next section of in-road charging).
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Wow that thing is ugly, cheaper than a Nissan Aryia but I'd lean towards that or a Mach E.
Toyota used to be known for bland styling and now has a most hideous design language that makes me wonder who could have ever approved the rolling gargoyles produced by Toyota these days.
No spare tire, massive glass roof (yuck), slow charging, Toyota styling, that stunningly ugly dashboard, piano black trim, no Frunk, and Toyota’s stingy subscriptions for features all equal a no sale. Bridgestone tires are also a no-no.
Maybe the Man Bun crowd will like this, but not me.🤢🤮
What really shocks me is that Toyota faced backlash for putting piano black in their last generation Prius and then took it out because of the scratches, etc. why on earth would they put it back in again on this when they know it was a terrible idea before?
Meh
This is ridiculous, 250 miles range for a $50,000 dollars car? That means that if they come up with a car that costs $25,000 dollars for poor people like me it means it's going to give us a POS battery that's going to be 100 miles range and it will be plain like a car from the 80s. They are doing this for a reason.
Horrible vehicle name
Toyotas worst car ever.
That's kind of what they wanted so they could show how superior the hybrids are.
@@default7950 that's pretty pathetic then
Great review Ryan. Just wondering how much gas you consumed with the gas pedal? All the best from Down Under 🦘🇦🇺
It is like Toyota deliberately put all its effort to make the worse electric car the they could humanly build !!! What a disappointment …. Almost any other electric car is better than that …ugly, slow , no frunk, small … why did they even bother !!!!
To get the U.S. government and the leftist environmentalists off their back. Toyota owns the hybrid market, and their hybrids have been best in class for many years. Toyota isn't stupid: watch what they do, and ignore the bedwetting auto journalist BS.