The All-Electric bZ4X Is An EV Done The Toyota Way
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- It would seem that hybrid king Toyota has pushed back against battery electric vehicles. But it does make a BEV- the bZ4X. With a range of up to 252 miles, it’s available in front and all-wheel drive. How does it drive? Tom Voelk drives a front-wheel drive Limited model and finds it to be a solid performer with an excellent driving dynamic. Charging speed and curve? That might be the deal breaker for those that travel long distances.
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About Tom: Tom Voelk is an award-winning automotive contributor to The New York Times. His podcast was the first to win an Emmy Award (and he's won for photography, editing, producing and reporting). But really, all you need to know is in the videos.
The comment at the end regarding how EV fits in the effort to "save the planet" is well-done.
It’s FUGLEY for sure. Not very impressive for a $50k car.
The Honda Clarity was a better car
What a ponderous first effort from Toyota. The definition of “meh” in a car.
Ona separate note, good commentary from Tom regarding realistic carbon footprint of EVs.
Even their compliance RAV4 EVs from both 2000 and 2012 were a better attempt than this...
100 kW max DCFC in 2023 is a sign Toyota put “C” team on this thing.
I like it when reviewers make their own measurements, like you did both on the charging and boot space as too many reviewers just repeat manufacturers often very optimistic claims (sometimes outright lies)
The issue is there is no industry standard on how to measure. Some manufacturers will measure the entire volume available behind a seat, others may only go up to the top of the back of the seat (as piling things above the top of the back seat means they'll come flying forward the minute you apply a brake.
@@jeffer1101 that’s true indeed, and in Europe « generally » one is supposed to mesure up to the cover, which lead to ridiculous comparaison between the Skodaq Enyaq and the Model Y, when one is mesured up to cover while the Tesla is up to the roof. RUclipsr Bjorn Nyland has his banana box test which help put things in perspective (just one more banana box in the Model Y and not quasi double the size as some would have you believe…
So I saw one of these in Limited AWD trim with all the options at my local dealer today. I sat in it and turned it on. The driver’s seat heater and steering wheel heater are slightly better than my loaded 2021 RAV4 Prime XSE. I had to lower the steering wheel a little to comfortably look at the gauges.(I’m six foot tall). There’s no power adjustments for the passenger seat and no camera for the rear view mirror. No glove compartment in front of passenger. Pleasant enough interior to sit in. 222 miles per tank is pretty disappointing.
I will never use a subscription service on a car I own. Absolutely ridiculous. But, I guess they will have this be the norm for future generations…sad. I remember my dad saying in the early 80’s, that he’d never pay for TV….lol. So there ya have it…
I don't subscribe to anything except a cheap Wal MART flip phone........Paid for before leaving the store.....Paul
My dad said the same. Also only bought one car, a 66 Coronet. It remains with me today. Completely analog driving experience. Only thing power is steering.
Tom, Does the Subaru version have horizontally opposed electric motors? 🤔😉
I'm going to steal that line.
@@DrivenCarReviews You cannot steal what has already been given to you. 😁
Great comments about saving the environment and ourselves. You hit the nail on the head. Nice review too
George Carlin quote!
I think some people might by the Solterra version simply because they can pronounce it. Anyway, Toyota doesn't do anything until they are sure it will be profitable. This should sell well enough to justify further investments in future EVs for the brand. How this company can be accused of not caring about the environment while producing the most hybrids on the planet makes no sense. I'll bet all those models have save billions and billions of gallons of gas not to mention tons upon tons of emissions, but whatever. This is a nice effort but it does little to excite. The RAV4 Prime will probably continue to outsell it. The new Prius actually looks more attractive and appealing, the Yaris GR even more. EV or not, I wish they would sell that one here! Still love your 'Red Light/Green' summary. So perfect.
such a disappointment from Toyota. Went from a Prius C to an ID4 because they were to slow to go EV.
It's a crying shame that they removed.the Prius C, a perfectly competent Fiesta sized car and a real entry point into hybrids. The Corolla hybrid sedan is worse.
Toyota deliberately reduces the options in western markets and laughs. There's much more choice to be had in their home markets.
@@toyotaprius79 I agree. My friend has a Prius C, at 6'3" I fit in easily. In comparison, today's Corolla is tiny inside and the new Prius is even worse. The 65 mpg Yaris Hybrid they make today ought to be available over here as well as the nearly as efficient Yaris Cross .
I've always believed in Toyota quality........But this thing is UGLY......ugly trim....ugly complicated dash/screen/steering ETC........Also range has been reported by many to be only 180 miles............Also, for Me I want My personal SUV to stand up straight....Like a Forester or CX5........And for Me anything less than 8" of ground clearance is not really a true SUV.......MFG's Today are commonly labelling near everything as An SUV when They are NOT..........MARKETING.........The American way.........I can still buy gas and get what I want......Don't accept "MARKETING".......................Paul
Really love the end comments! Not a single lie told!
Toyota needs to get to Hyndaí´s efficiency 4+ miles per kWh.
More of a reminder that the Chevy Bolt is a really good deal.
Not if you want a long lasting, anything.
Not here in Quebec Canada the prizes are about the same 😮
I still don't know why Toyota would name anything "busy forks"...
thanks for the review, excellent format per usual Tom ! Toyota’s spin on promoting hybrids is absurd. They have been caught with their pants down on EV development. Styling is subjective however that car is ugly both inside and out in my opinion. The uber plastic and monochrome interior looks cheap. 4400 lbs ! charge speed is an embarrassment, No one-pedal driving option, substandard range … why would anyone purchase this vehicle over the competition? I think the Bz4X is Toyota’s compliance EV with a ridiculous name …
I don’t know why you’d buy one of these. The competition, from Ford, VW, Hyundai, Kia is all better and not much more if not at all more. 100kWh fast charging is garbage at this price point and it doesn’t help that the charge curve sucks.
Carbon footprint of EVs beats ICE in about 1.5 years based on US average electricity mix. In states with a lot of wind and solar, like CA and Texas, it is even faster.
I have a Bolt and this must be slower than 7 seconds to 60. A bolt has the same power and 50 more lb/ft of torque and weighs hundreds of pounds less. I can't help thinking this was a little half hearted as a first effort. I do like the styling though.
It is almost like Toyota is trying to discourage people from buying an EV. Their public statements seem to confirm that. But the low range, slow charging, slow 0-60 speeds, and only 10k a year in selected states, just to name a few, make it a last choice when shopping an EV. I recently traded my aging Tesla in for a KIA EV6. Talk about giant steps forward in the EV market.
I agree 100%.
Ugh, nickel and dime subscription costs… staying away from Toyota 10:14
More like around $300 per year if you sign up for the plethora of subscriptions required to enable all the "features" built into the car. Make sure you read that 300 page subscriber agreement as well -- simply laughable!
The Kirkland 30 roll pack (KTRP) is the new SI unit of volume replacing the liter!!! We have milliKTRP, microKTRP, kiloKTRP, etc. Scientists worldwide are re-calibrating instruments to this new standard.
Honestly though, I’d love to know how that works…does he buy those packs and return them for every review? Does he have an agreement with Costco and this is some kind of promotion for them? Does the person at the register think he’s nuts checking out with 360 rolls of TP?
Finally, someone understands my genius.
On the Toyota back-up beep, which is profoundly annoying and distracting. Had a 2005 Prius with the same "feature". Fortunately, there was a hack to stop it, and I suspect there's one for the bZ4x as well. Great review, as usual, Tom.
I just can’t get over those big black trim pieces, so ugly. It’s like Toyota intentionally made a mediocre vehicle to prove that EVs are not viable.
Always felt that way about hand washing. Washing a new car of mine for the first time fells like learning the curves of your significant other for the first time. ;)
Hi Tom,
Thank you for the full tour of the BZ4X!!
At the start you said Toyota said the battery resource ratio was 900,000 Prii : 600,000 RAV Primes : 10,000 BZ4X’s. Seems off.
Simplified ratio would be: 90 Prii : 60 RAV4 Primes : 1 BZ4X. Prius battery is >= 1kWh, RAV4 Prime = 18.1 kWh, BZ4X (FWD) = 71.4 kWh
Toyota’s #’s are approximate or worse, esp for the RAV4 Prime vs BZ4X. Only 3.9X battery in BZ4X, not. 60X more. Maybe they meant RAV4 hybrid?? Otherwise, it’s ‘Koolaid’ #’s they’re handing out….
I was surprised to see a BZ4X on our local Toyota dealer’s lot the other day. This is rural western Colorado and I figured it would be years before they stocked one. I’ve yet to see an EV at the local Ford, Chevy, or Nissan dealers.
Probably because those all vaporize off the lot. The waiting list for a Bolt is over 6 months in my neck of the woods.
that is cool!
youll probably see lots of them around with a price tag of $43-49k. stupidness....
Your reviews are always informative and enjoyable. I have a question about all wheel and 4 wheel drive systems, living in snow and ice country. Some newer cars claim rear wheel dominant, others are front drivers that add the rear wheels. Can you comment on the differences and advantages?
In my experience, after owning 2 EVs in Colorado & NY… my 2¢ is the regen braking might be more important. AWD Model Y for example, being rear wheel dominant, has decent traction to start but stopping becomes the issue. And in most teslas you cannot adjust regen brake level. Meaning you’ll slide all over barely releasing the pedal whereas a front wheel only Bolt you may have more control especially with good tires.
And specific to your question, with BEVs, computer adjustments for traction are so incredibly fast, noticing the difference of power distribution will be negligible in regards to manufacturers choice of weighted distribution. I think maybe only Rivian and F150 ⚡️has ability to “lock” 50/50 like a traditional 4x4 would do. Idk. It’s a good question.
It's a highly flawed and underdeveloped EV that Toyota's executives didn't want to build.
And it's still an overly expensive, profit gouging Crossover that still pales to the rest.
The quiet resignation of Toyoda recently only speaks volumes.
Love your endings. Especially the discussion about the pros and cons of EV’e such a breath of fresh air.
The model name reminds me of the random Amazon Chinese import products. Like when my cat walks all over my keyboard.
Stick with the car not the environment, oh of course your in Seattle lol
I want to (gently) shake the designer who decided, "glove boxes bad, shiny black plastic good!"
It's not a real Toyota. I't made by Chinese EV auto builder & is very innefficient, however nice try. Just wish Toyota was more serious about building EV. They talk a lot, but don't walk the walk!
You may be thinking of the bZ3X, which is made by BYD for the Chinese market. They may also make some bZ4X's there for that market and/or Europe, but the bZ4X is primarily produced in Japan at the Motomachi plant alongside a number of other vehicles.
Thanks Martin, we couldn't view these videos without you.
I've taken this car for a test drive and really enjoyed the ride. Unfortunately, it fails in China. The EV-car market here is extremly cruel especially to oversea brands.
Sorry Tom, 210mils in 35-40° is horrible! $50k/210mile = 238 per mile capacity cost is a joke. I’ll keep my 23’ $45k NX350h with 400mil on a tank = $112 per/mil
Ha! Ok this is a good vid covering Toyotas EV foray. Weirdly enough I like model and the solaraaaaaa, it’s still too early to call Toyota’s long term battery 🔋 life w this really slow charging rate. This was a very practical and non judgmental vid. A++ from the peanut gallery.
Range and charging speed are a little lower than competitors, but that can be explained by the extra ground clearance and Toyota’s reliability standards. Seems like the rest of the car is great; comfortable and enjoyable to drive.
No, they’re significantly worse. Range is ok compared to competitors but still about the lowest in the class. Charge speeds are straight up garbage, 100kWh on a $50k EV is laughable, not to mention the charging curve sucks, 0-80% taking an hour and charging speeds past 80% are bordering unusable. All of its competitors are also comfortable and enjoyable to drive, and aren’t trash at being an EV. Also, I wouldn’t bet on Toyotas reliability when this car came out of the gate with its wheels falling off.
Tom, thank you for your balanced approach. I'm an EV owner and I tell people all the time, that they're better for the environment than ICEs; not "good" for the environment. Mass transit, esp electrified rail travel, and certainly walking or biking, are much better for the environment. I live somewhere I have to have a car, but as soon as I retire, I'm moving where I won't need a car and can rely on public transit.
give this guy an oscar for the split screen scene talking to himself!🙂
Tom mentioned the “cold” conditions-mid 30’sF haha-affecting range. It was -7F this morning in WI, it would be interesting to know how an ev works in that condition. People have them here, so it must “work”, but I wonder for how far?
It effects it by the tune of about 30% on range - I have an older Leaf, very small battery, but great for our local runner. Never go back, 48k miles and only a set of tires and wiper blades - BEST ever
I know that weather, I grew up in Duluth. bZ4X has a heat pump, that will help efficiency some. But this from the Toyota FAQ site- As temperatures decrease below 50 degrees Fahrenheit, charging time will increase significantly. For bZ4X AWD, DC Charging will slow down further than other models when the temperature is below 32 degrees Fahrenheit and may not be possible when the temperature drops to around -4 degrees Fahrenheit or below.
It's not as simple as that. It depends on what you compare with what. In warm weather you'll get the most range when driving in a city. City range is important regarding energy usage but doesn't really matter for what everybody seems to worry about - not being able to make it there. Because every EV has enough range for city driving. On the motorway, EVs have less range because it takes more energy to drive at higher speeds. In cold weather things change. There are three reasons why you loose range in cold weather:
1) higher driving resistance.
2) energy use for heating.
3) the battery has less energy accessible when cold.
Therefore you'll get the least range on short commutes / city driving. You'll get more range the further you drive, because the portion of energy used to heat the cabin and battery will decrease relative to the energy used for driving and more of the energy stored in the battery becomes accessible as it gets heated up. So if you just commute to work and get some groceries with a 280miles EPA rated car, you may get 300miles in summer vs 120 in very low temperature. On a long distance trip @70mph OTOH, you look at say 220miles vs 160.
It really depends on whether you turn the heat on. If not and if you warmed the car beforehand, probably not a huge drop.
Bz4x is nice EV if it were priced at $40K loaded out of the door.
I’d rather keep driving my 234k miles 2005 Toyota Sienna which is still running flawlessly and the Sienna offers room for 8 plus luggage and camping gears for extended long road trips into the Wilderness something that no EV can. More importantly, I don’t have to worry about car payments nor expensive registration & high premium insurance because insurance for Sienna is less than $60/m full coverage. Additionally, time is the most valuable thing to me in life and I don’t have half of an hour to waste waiting for an EV charging to 70%. I fill up from empty to full in less than 4 minutes. No to BZ4X😢
I agree with you on price. I will never pay $50k for a vehicle that is near useless outside of a 100 mile radius. I will never pay $50K for a car, period. This needs to be under 40 for the XLE.
Hope ‘the Toyota way’ changes to a dedicated EV design. e-TNGA is clearly a port of TNGA -the pack is slung under the structural frame instead of being integral to / inside the frame structure; no front trunk is just packaging ‘stuff’ the same way as in an IC setup. A dedicated EV platform CAN make storage & weight savings available, Unconstrained by IC base structure. For the maker of the most efficient cars and SUVs, the BZ4X fails the company Credo to efficiency too. Range is short for >70kWh available. Hope next GEN Toyota EVs are more purpose built/focussed so they can BE more Toyota.
I heard this car was a disaster.
Thanks Mr. Campbell for your help with making this great content happen! Very nice work as always, Tom!
Wheels come off when brand new, no rebate, and subpar range.
And people complain about Tesla? 🤣🤣
That AI voice in the Toyota sounds annoyed every time it's asked to do something. Now imagine paying to hear it with a subscription. Sheesh.
The Toyota bZ4X has several problems, it is simply ugly, limited range compared to other EVs, and has slow charging.
I think Toyota's president/CEO Akio Toyoda really wanted to go hydrogen.
Ok, so the big question ;) Did you enjoy the Solterra more or the BZ4X? I have only been able to check out a Solterra so far. I currently own a 2023 Crosstrek PHEV and absolutely love it. I am excited to see what happens in the future when they refresh the Solterra.
I've not driven the Subaru version
@@DrivenCarReviews Oh ok. I look forward to your video then if you manage to get a hold of one ;) I have not test driven one, but I was able to see one inside and out when I took my Crosstrek in for its last maintenance check-up.
I am also interested to see how the 1st gen Solterra holds up to the -25 to -30 degree temps that we see up here in winter. This weekend is forecasted to hit -40 with windchill, so that will likely take a huge 30-50% bite out of the range on most EV's.
"Pure Toyota ev"... with an electric motor "under the hood", that happens to look exactly like a Hyundai Kona's that's 4 years old on an ICE conversion... lol dude, it's like 10 year old electric tech wrapped in a fancy new looking wrapper. The people that buy these instead of a Tesla are clueless. Even just 10 minutes of research on your car purchase should of made it obvious.
It’s a good solid vehicle, but why did Toyota have to make it so…plastic? Ugly on the outside (subjective, I know), and a sea of plastic inside. Not a stitch of luxury when you’re paying luxury prices. It’s almost like they don’t want to sell cars….
It's practically a Hyundai Kona Electric, guys. It's no more a Toyota than the new "supra" 🤣 (which is nothing but a bmw z4 with fake Toyota plastic as well)
`Like your comments....could convince me to walk past the VW dealer....(not that they have ANY EVs in OZ yet) 😅
That argument that Toyota keep wheeling out about ‘how many hybrids we could make with the same battery material’ is so flawed and biased.
How about - just 1 EV on the road saves as much CO2 over its lifetime as 50 hybrids or whatever the figure is
Maybe its just me but this ev seems totally uninspired and boring. It brings nothing to the table that makes it unique, it doesn't excel in anyone one area, it just brings the bare minimum of whats expected from an EV. Totally uncompelling.
Great review as always but this car should have been scrapped when the wheels started falling off. Extremely poor job by Toyota. A Chevy Bolt has the same horsepower for much less. The only people interested in this car are Toyota fans. Everyone else should look elsewhere.
Too little, too late. A lame entrant from a company that could have absolutely owned the EV space. Don’t defend Toyota, they don’t deserve your money. Look at the Koreans, Germans, or Americans for better electric cars.
DoA! EV needs at least a 300-mile range to effectively compete. The 250-mile range was OK 10yrs ago, but not today!
0:45 um no. I did the math and they can build 40,000 Primes @18kwh or 700,000k Prius@≈1.1kwh with 10k bZ materials.
What a shame their 1st full EV that took so long to bring to market is such a poor effort, its awkward looking, overweight, one of the lowest travel distances, minimal dynamic braking, poor performance, slow charging, compromised back seating area and rear storage area and so it goes on when compared with the opposition, why bother investing in one.
Hoping graphene makes strides in the industry.
Toyota needs to work on that charging curve for DCFC especially for the AWD model. Good lord, it's like over 1 hour to 10 to 90% for the AWD model!
I bought my EV to get the gas monkey off my back. For sure, we trade one environmental impact for another. So this green debate is just bullshit.
😅🤣😂🤣😅 it's a complete piece of 💩 That's why Toyota had to use lies to sell them and are having to buy them back.
Why does Toyota think buyers of their electrified car are too dumb to know when they are going backwards? The noise is as you say distracting which make it more dangerous.
I agree with you concerning the "Large carbon imprint" of EVs. We live in a disposable culture nowadays with people wanting the newest and shiniest thing whether it be a new computer, a car, or a state-of-an-art house. We forget that every time that we buy something new, we consume resources... and that includes EVs or ICE automobiles. There is one correction to be made, however. An EV can be gentler on the environment, even if a dirty coal or oil powered plant is providing the power, for millions of dinosaur-juiced vehicles pollute every time they are refueled, with oil and lubrication changes, and with CO2 and nitrogen oxide emissions. It is also much more efficient for a large power plant to make power than millions of petrol powered engines. But any new auto pollutes, maybe EVs slightly more with battery manufacture, just from the metallurgy and chemicals involved, and with the transport from faraway places. And what happens to the less-than-shiny car that is replaced?
just saw your comments about hand washing the car. If I really like my car, yes I hand wash it; the new, to me, BMW I3 will be hand washed.
Poor range, poor efficiency, poor power, poor charging speed, wheels fall off. Disappointingly weak effort by Toyota.
Not impressed and somewhat ugly, poor specs for an all electric vehicle. Not confident with all they had to do to keep the wheels on, haven’t they built cars before.
Hmmmm...back to a dorky styling EV. Seems a bit expensive for what you get with this one.
The Ioniq 5 has more range and a lot more horsepower. It also charges faster and looks fantastic inside and out. The Bz4x looks like a Rav4 that got into an accident and the auto shop didn’t have the right parts to put it back together. Reviewers seem to like it okay, but the main reason to buy it would be if you couldn’t get something else. It rides a bit higher than most of the competition, but I don’t think that’s too compelling. The Bz4x tells me that Toyota still doesn’t believe in Electric cars.
I work at a Toyota dealer in FL. Let me know if you’re interested in a blacked out BZ4X Limited
What I want is for Toyota to put their Teammate technology on a RAV4 Prime, then I can forget about Tesla.
Hoping that Teammate is better than what I experienced. It was complicated and clunky when I experienced Gen 1.
I really hope the piano black trend dies before I do. I'm almost 60, so we'll see...
PERFECT SUV ❤👍🏻
Hello Tom, the noise in reverse is annoying as you say, but as a long time Prius owner and very recent BMW I3 owner, I'm glad its there, car is so quiet, its easy to be confused, well at least for some of us.
Cargo space is so underwhelming. You’d expect more space in the trunk.
And no cargo tie downs to secure whatever you are carrying (but somehow the Prius gets them). A whole bunch of the early bZ4X and Solterra reviewers had carry-on bags thrown in the back that were constantly banging into the plastic back there every time they made a turn. Most said something like, "Hold on we need to tie down our bags." Then they would cut back to the video and the bag would be in the back seat or it would just keep making noise back there and it wasn't mentioned again. So sad.
My 2010 Prius had that same warning inside as well. Just plain stupid.
Don't know if you use the same neighborhood to film the videos but is/are very cool
Thanks, Martin. Best videos out there... ...in my opinion.
this car is a joke. The industry as a whole is way behind, especially ToyoTa
I want an ev CH-R. I live in LA and having a small, but practical, ev would be ideal. It seems like the manufacturers are prioritizing larger and more expensive EV’s.
In Norway we have 150 Kwh charging also for the awd.
Ayo you have the best reviews I’ve ever seen/heard. My favorite and something I always look for but never got: the road noise differences, Seattle weather comparison, how the wheel feels driving, and my favorite yet, a Costco haul comparison for the trunk size visual. F A V O R I T E. You’re awesome and now I’m only watching your review vids
The constant drums are very distracting and hard to hear you speaking at times.
I saw a video (can't remember from which RUclipsr) where someone didn't realize he was in reverse and backed up into some water with an EV. Can't remember what water it was. Japanese manufacturers have been using this beep for decades. Don't know if not in the USA but surely it's used in other parts of the world. Like it or not it is a safety feature.
My brain instantly detects when I'm going backwards, I hardly think I'm unique. If they drove any distance into water, that's totally on him.
can u not go into system settings and put off the sound it makes wile reversing?
On the backup tone... You may know you're going backwards but senior citizens may not. You'll understand in 10 years.
On the inside of the car? Yes, there's a tone outside but it doesn't beep, which would be a lot easier to hear than the drone.
Those fenders.... just looking at them convince me not to consider it to buy it :P
Black. Buy the black one.
TOM the Toyota bZ4x is is Bullshit, its poorly Designed and requires too much Maintanance.
the bZ4x is too SLOW, too HEAVY and too INEFFICIENT.
TESLA model Y is MORE Efficient, LONGER RANGE and is 60% less Maintanance.
What a piece of garbage. Come on, Toyota! You can do better!
Another expensive EV with less range.
I'm so pleased it's so, so bad!
An EV that should only attract Toyota loyalists.
Toyota should fire their designers cause this thing is ugly. Cladding where there should be bodywork and an overall look that simply has no visual flow. Low range and poor charging speed whereas the current trend is more range and faster charging. Wow, that's a big, big miss!
Every shot of the interior caught me looking at your elbows cause it really looks cramped in there. I don't find the interior one bit attractive and the interface appears pretty slow. Where I change temperature by saying TEMPERATURE 72, this system seems to require longer back and forth communication.
I'm definitely not impressed!
Glass roof is not standard. At least not here in Canada. The L trim has no sun roof
its great until the wheels fall off which they have done frequently
Hey Tom, any chance for your EV reviews you can put in a blurb about how long it personally took you to go from 10% to 80%? People may not want to watch a full charging curve video or believe the brochure, instead just getting the info from a trusted source is the preferred way to go.
Could toyota be looking at buying canoo to make a jump into the market
LOL, what an overpriced load of crap that is so deficient in efficiency, range, interior space, storage, ergonomics…. Shudder
$55k for 2 and a half hours to full? 70 min for 60% that is as bad as the Chevy that is available for $17k brand new.