Happy Friday everyone! So Subaru has finally announced the EPA rated range for the Solterra. The Premium trim with the 18” wheels gets 228 miles on a full charge, while the Limited/Touring on the 20” wheels gets 222 miles. We saw 235 miles on the on-board range computer on a full charge. Expect us to do a follow up video with some more extensive range testing once we get one back home for a full week to test.
IONIQ 5 AWD does 256 miles EV6 AWD does 274 miles ID4 Pro AWD does 251 miles Unless this is priced a good amount below those options, it’ll be a very mediocre EV.
Subaru homepages in Japan and European countries say max charge rate 150 kW. Which makes sense since BZ4X also has 150 kW max rate. It would be odd that the US market gets a different version. I would check your sources and make a correction if needed. Only 100 kW max rate would be a deal breaker for many.
25:18 I disagree. If you have sensitive control of your right foot, one-pedal regenerative braking can be super smooth. I've never had my passengers complain about car sickness and my wife is prone to it. It's the people who are used to two pedal braking that don't take their foot off of the pedal slow enough that causes the issue. It takes practice to be smooth.
1:20 I saw Alex in the grill reflection. Lol. I love you guys individually and together. My wife has a 2018 Outback that I hope we can replace with a Solterra. Thank you Sofyan and Alex!
Subaru: "we don't know how to make a good interior" Toyota: "you make a regular car with no character and we will add the gloss black plastic and just install a massive screen over top"
@@ivalterbaptista2305 Cheap and ugly is more like it. What the hell is plain and simple about all those extra judding out angles in wings and fins around the dashboard. It’s like a cheesy 90s spaceship Console
1. Less than 250 miles of range 2. Not that quick compared to other EV competitors 3. Not really electric efficient, only gets 2.3-2.4 miles per kilowatt. 4. The black cladding on side doesn’t look good. 5. That gauge cluster is a failure, why not a traditional gauge with heads up display? I am definitely going to look elsewhere.
Same! We have three Subies in the driveway right now. I haven’t driven anything else for the last 20 years but that will change next time and that makes me sad.
Great review. What is starting to scare me is the lack of infrastructure. Just went to Atlantic City,120 miles one way, and all the charge stations were ‘occupied ‘. Today the market is what 2-3% electric.
This is what I have been telling everyone! We are not ready to be even 25% electric and Atlantic City has a lot more charge stations then those in Midwest
Thanks for the review. The black cladding is fine with me and actually gives the Cosmic Pearl White color a contemporary and cool black and white two tone effect. I really like the look and styling inside and out and the larger screen on the Limited. I ordered a Limited in Cosmic White. Subaru excels with AWD, X-Mode, Eyesight, and although I considered other EVs--I live at the top of a mountain in NC and we have been getting more snow in recent years, so the X-Mode and AWD has been a lifesaver. Since they only made 6,500 and I made it into the queue, I did not want to wait another year. The range and charging speed suffice fine for us. We will probably drive our 2019 Forrester for longer trips for awhile. I also feel the Subaru brand is reliable, their corporate brand beats out some of the other EV makers, and I am feeling grateful I was able to be an early adopter.
I enjoy the two with their different take on the review! Alex has such insight on reviewing cars, pre answers all my questions on this car. Great duo review!
Very disappointing it having the charge rate of my 2017 Bolt. I suppose it might help them achieve Toyota's goal of a 10 year battery warranty but we use our ICE Forester for road trips so the Solterra is off the list until it has a modern charge curve that is competitive.
That’s what I said all along. You literally just admitted what I’ve been saying. Everyone on here has made fun of me for this 🤦♂️ I totally agree the Koreans have already mopped the bz4x soltera and even the RZ450e off the floor before the latter even gets unveiled
REALLY? Widespread examples of Car Fires and Recalls out of the Korean cars. Japan being more measured/timing - by focusing on Hybrids has kept them out of RECALL blasts 💥 that Kia and Hyundai keep getting
@@nextleveljourney6612 the fire recall applies to older gasoline Hyundai Kia’s. The Kona ev had the fire risk yes but this is an all new ev. I msure they fixed it by then and wised up
This news report says that Kia/Hyundai have a massive Court Settlement for millions of drivers of of their cars: ruclips.net/video/8erCvq2ER7M/видео.html
On "One-pedal driving", Alex was 100% right. The driver may enjoy it but the passenger hates it. I know what he's saying. That being said, I'm really impressed with this Subaru/Toyota vehicle. I have an ID.4, but this is a great effort from the Subaru/Toyota collaboration. Great review! Thanks!!
I'm glad Subaru is finally getting an EV, and I'm buying a Solterra in a few weeks. The interior is all Toyota and is shared with the Bz4x (from which it is based) as well as the new Prius, including the seats. I'm not thrilled about the dashboard, I wish they would have taken the cues from the Venza instead. It has a more traditional instrument cluster with a small holographic that displays your speed and other data on the windshield. I realize the battery pack is expensive, but for +$50k for the Touring I would have hoped the interior was a little nicer and not just ported from the Prius.
That is quite the infotainment upgrade for a Subaru, similar to the new NX tablet style head unit which make sense? I noticed Alex off the reflection off the new grill and I’m like wayment… that’s not Rob 😂
Please, as an auto journalist, learn the difference between kw and kwh...... 17:43, 17:58. The battery size is kwh, everything else like charging speed and power is kw
200 miles of range is terrible, manufactures need to focus on range of at least 300. Factor in use of AC or Heater range will dramatically be reduced by 40%. My Hyundai IONIQ 5 only fully charges at 80% and with the use of the heater the mileage is affected by 50%, ridiculous. Manufacturers and reviewers need to step up and give us the real world road tests.
@@MrChadder007 all I know is that when I use the heater in my Ionic, range is severely affected. I haven't had the need to use the AC yet, but I imagine it would be the same scenario.
High horsepower is a Tesla thing so that they could boast 0-62 in less than 4s. Most people drive like your mom(get it? YOUR MOM lol), it would also be safer since you dont have idiots that would always boast "it accelerates 0-60 in 3s"
@@ameserich its also a range thing too, high voltage motors are a bit more efficient and have much higher re-generative breaking but theyre also more expensive and its also worse for bettery health because of higher charging-discharging rates, I'm pretty sure they're gunning for the price and longevity factor with the handling, awd, ground clearance and battery heater for colder climate for European and extreme climate buyers
@@shivamarya5225 not really. electric motors are capable of 2x torque, 200 horsepower motor would have 350-400nm of torque... that is why i dont understand why they always make EV cars too powerful, my understanding is that high hp EV is only for marketing
Keep the outback XT. Wait for next generation. That's what I'll do. I have the 2018 Honda crv awd touring for my wife and the 2022 ascent for the family. If I want to trade the crv, I would get the Kia ev 6 gt line awd or the Volvo ev instead.
220 miles EPA range is more like 170 miles in the winter, maybe less, if you live somewhere it gets cold. That ~50 mile range reduction could significantly lower the car's utility for some use cases. In my case living in the PHL metro area, it would take day trips to say NYC or Baltimore without having to public charge off the table.
Glad you said it feels like a Toyota RAV4 prime. It looks like one in my opinion too. Nice looking car though. I also like the doorhandles and how they didn’t try to hard. Just give me something that works!
Thank you, gentlemen! My Solterra has been ordered and expected in April. Looking forward to getting an EV, hopefully with free charging, as gas prices are going to be upwards to $7.00 per gallon soon. 😁
The big question is “how much” and is this the big battery version or the small battery version with a larger capacity pack to follow? Probably the latter given the disappointing range figures. On paper this thing blows, but when you take a closer look that range figure is about what you get from a Mach-E SR AWD which makes sense if there’s gonna be a bigger battery option down the road. Compared to an Ioniq 5 or EV6 this thing does not stack up, so if this is the biggest pack you’ll be able to get I have no idea why you buy this car over the competition. Again price comes into play. If economy is your focus, ditch the AWD and get a Leaf, Bolt or a KoNiro twin. If you want premium, why this over anything else out there?
In terms of range, you have to factor in this is an AWD first attempt from both Subaru & Toyota. Don’t think the Mach-E or ID.4 at this price point would match this one’s off-road capability. And ‘does it have a frunk?’ is not the million dollar question. Sofyan is so focused on this minimal space that’s only in a few EV’s like Tesla or his Mach-E…it really shouldn’t matter since there’s so much more interior space. And the straight line 0-60 times are not what these types of EV are intended for…they’re comfort cruisers or people movers. Not every models needs a performance edition with 4 sec 0-60 times. If so, maybe he should only be reviewing sports cars, GTs & hot hatches. Just be more be balanced my man…
I get better economy with My AWD Forester.......Low purchase price...low depreciation.....And in Iowa, lower annual liscence fees.........Iowa already has very high licensing fees and are planning even higher fees for electrics......Maybe as much as $1000 dollars annualy,,,,Maybe more........1% annually of purchase price plus $400 more for electric........Paul
This an exciting car, because Subaru and EV is a perfect pairing. And, that interior with the cockpit like layout is amazing. I really hope this kicks off well
I think it looks pretty handsome. Maybe too much cladding but overall I think it works in gray, and the interior is basically all Toyota. I just wish it had more range though.
hmm.. a bit torn on this...The Range and time to charge gets me considering 2 pretty well known companies. but will change maybe,,So No Rear wiper? i saw dirty on the back window if you go offroad in the dirt gonna be hard to see again when you get on the road.
What phone is that in the charging compartment? I hope it’s a pro max, because if it’s a smaller phone it seems to be a tight fit and any larger one won’t be able to charge in there.
I always have to say one thing: You are just such an marvelous car reviewer of all time. Also I totally in love with this EV. I rather have to get this vehicle over it's competition. But excellent review sofyan.
I am glad they came out with an electric vehicle...however, I would love a hybrid model. We had lots of power outages in my area last summer...so, I have trust issues with all electric.
It's best to have enough range to get you a couple of hours down the road on road trips, but not too much more, since 90% of the time you'll just be hauling around a large percentage of dead weight batteries when driving locally and charging at home.
@@jml9550 Really doubt they would do that. All EVs are artificially priced high. For anything premium, Tesla blow the competition out of the water for 300 to 400 miles. It’s Toyota they will price it same as Kia and Hyundai and charge a more expensive interest rate because they are Toyota. Japanese still just riding on their nameplate only, but for how long?
Question... as hybrids/electric/plug-ins etc. Become more available, do you think there will be a continued rise in gasoline prices in order to push evs? Also do you think this is the way to go with the mile range being so low compared to gasoline fueled cars, or should we wait until the batteries and range get better?
@@Gadgettime potential profit is what determines oil extraction, refinement and gasoline production, not the current administration. It’s a global commodity in a (mostly) capitalist world.
@@tpolerex7282 you are absolutely right potential profit determines it. The current administration policies capped it. There is no incentive for oil gasoline companies to produce more.
I think it looks quite nice, not everyone needs an EV that has 400hp and does 0-60 in 3 seconds. Someone needs to attend to the affordable market, cos everyone seems to be doing only the premium thing. I also wish Subaru did a little more with the interior, I mean this interior is quite nice, but I wish it was more Subaru, the infotainment is an upgrade tho, because Toyota’s infotainment is way better than Subaru’s
The problem is at $40k there’s way better options in this price range. Yes, you may not need the power but if its the same price who cares plus they have better range. I for one don’t like that they’re trying to pass these off as crossovers. That’s a generous term for this and the EV6. The cut off back just cuts off valuable capacity back there.
There is no way i would pay over $50k for the limited trim and for a range of 225 miles or so. The HP is not the issue, the range is low and what will be the range loss in cold weather? The car seems ok otherwise but pricey with low range. No thanks
Loved the review! And soft offroader without spare tire is not good for me IMO. Also, I do not know what Toyota/Subaru are thinking with those front fenders.
I dunno what ure saying about the charging capabilities, I visited a dealership today, and the salesman said it would take about 30min to charge it. I dont remember if it was from 0 to 100, or from 0 to 75%, but it was one of those two.. So I dont understand when u say its gonna take entire 10 hours to charge.. with fast charging..
Guessing the prices is going to be in the low 40's before tax credits. Sad that Toyota and Subaru could NOT come up with a 300+ mile range for their first EV. Based on my experience with an EV with a 240 mile range on a full charge, anything below that number become problematic when you want to take a long trip because of the unreliability of the fast charging network in the US. Only last year Toyota was bad mouthing EV's and so making one that fails to meet or exceed the competition makes me wonder if they're trying to discourage EV buyers so that they can later say, see, we told you the EV proposition was a not a good idea. After all, this is the company that refuses to give up hydrogen EV's.
40K for a new car is cheap nowadays.....I mean, hasn't your pay at your job tripled here along with prices? Mine did, NOT! Yes, 40K is obsurd!! And good luck paying cash for that.
I have the same concern as how it would work without a rear wiper, especially when one drives in off-road and rear glass covered with dust. I was surprised reviewers made no comment about it.
Another great review. BUT, you think the EV badge looks tacky? I think the whole dash looks tacky. Just my opinion, for what it's worth. Thanks for showing us this EV in such a detailed manner. I always appreciate that.
Hey Sofyan, I am trying to pick between the Toyota BZ4X (fully-loaded, AWD) and the Kia EV6 (GT-Line, AWD). Which would you pick? Anything over the other? Thanks!
Well, we technically haven’t driven the bZ4x yet… and we also suspect it may end up being cheaper than the Kia. Personally, we think the EV6, Ioniq5, and Mach E are our favorites right now so it’s only going to come down to the pricing of this car and the Toyota.
@@theredline I hope they come out with a longer range version of the Toyota or another EV with 300+ miles of range, but I think I’m going to get the EV6 this summer. Thanks!
I’m confused on these electric cars, a full tank of gas will get you probably somewhere between 300-350 miles…but this electric car will only get you maybe 220?? Wtf is the point?? Where does the power come from?? How can you really “off road” with a plug in? What am I missing??
Put it like this, your suppose to charge ur vehicle at home, my sister spend like 10 to 12 dollars on 300 miles for her Tesla. This is zero maintenance aside from brakes and tires.
@@dragodavidCE geez, that’s good. Do you know how long it usually takes to charge? Wish I could get an EV right now but I wouldn’t have a dedicated charging place other than maybe at work, lack of infrastructure worries me, and the battery time taking a hit during to cold winters. Hopefully the tech and infra get much better during my lifetime
people looking to shop this car isn't looking for performance, lol... they're looking at EV version of Forester, and this is it. It can do more ground clearance and smaller wheels though... hopefully a wilderness edition is in the plans.
with only 230-250 mile range, I personally will still have range anxiety . I believe the RAV4 prime makes better since with an all electric range of 50 miles then it turns into a hybrid for another 500 miles. thoughts.
Happy Friday everyone! So Subaru has finally announced the EPA rated range for the Solterra. The Premium trim with the 18” wheels gets 228 miles on a full charge, while the Limited/Touring on the 20” wheels gets 222 miles. We saw 235 miles on the on-board range computer on a full charge. Expect us to do a follow up video with some more extensive range testing once we get one back home for a full week to test.
IONIQ 5 AWD does 256 miles
EV6 AWD does 274 miles
ID4 Pro AWD does 251 miles
Unless this is priced a good amount below those options, it’ll be a very mediocre EV.
Subaru homepages in Japan and European countries say max charge rate 150 kW. Which makes sense since BZ4X also has 150 kW max rate. It would be odd that the US market gets a different version.
I would check your sources and make a correction if needed. Only 100 kW max rate would be a deal breaker for many.
Not good enough
@@nothere572 bolt euv does around 260.
I think it's a good starting point for Subaru. The true customers will voice their opinion and tell them what else they want from the EV vehicles.
Sofyan, you and Alex are two of my favorite RUclipsrs and people in the world! So glad you got to collaborate on this EV!
Love the collaboration and hearing both of your perspectives. Very informative and enjoyable.
I'm just wondering if the presenter knows that men can wear pants that don't look like leggings?
Completely agree with you here!
What about TFL
@@LBYINCHINA I can’t really speak to them because I don’t watch much of their content
25:18 I disagree. If you have sensitive control of your right foot, one-pedal regenerative braking can be super smooth. I've never had my passengers complain about car sickness and my wife is prone to it. It's the people who are used to two pedal braking that don't take their foot off of the pedal slow enough that causes the issue. It takes practice to be smooth.
1:20 I saw Alex in the grill reflection. Lol. I love you guys individually and together. My wife has a 2018 Outback that I hope we can replace with a Solterra. Thank you Sofyan and Alex!
Subaru: "we don't know how to make a good interior"
Toyota: "you make a regular car with no character and we will add the gloss black plastic and just install a massive screen over top"
Plain and simple is the way i like it.
Gonna need to add a extended warranty for that burn.
BMW: let me talk to you for a second.
(*Supra exhaust sound in the background *)
@@ivalterbaptista2305 Cheap and ugly is more like it. What the hell is plain and simple about all those extra judding out angles in wings and fins around the dashboard. It’s like a cheesy 90s spaceship Console
@@trousersnake1486 but it doesn’t take oil. Lol.
Alex cameo 1:28! Really love both of your reviews and channels overall!
You two do a good job working together with your reviews. I’ll keep my reservation.
1. Less than 250 miles of range
2. Not that quick compared to other EV competitors
3. Not really electric efficient, only gets 2.3-2.4 miles per kilowatt.
4. The black cladding on side doesn’t look good.
5. That gauge cluster is a failure, why not a traditional gauge with heads up display?
I am definitely going to look elsewhere.
Ya this is a fail. Total fail.
I can only argue on the quicknes tho. They are trying to gi more traditional as there are many drivers who are not wanting or looking for a fast ev.
Def fail. 300 range is base these days.
It is a rebage toyota BZ4X 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
220 miles isn't going to do it for me and I am a loyal Subaru owner.
Same! We have three Subies in the driveway right now. I haven’t driven anything else for the last 20 years but that will change next time and that makes me sad.
Neither is the lack of a spare tire.
I am not going into the backcountry with no spare and that limited range.
Let’s see what the price is. If it is similar to the Ioniq 5 or EV6, it will fail with this low range.
@@jml9550 Subaru tends to cost more than comparable models because of its AWD system. I doubt this will be any different.
@@tenofdiamonds6440 if that’s the case I don’t think are competitive.
Great review. What is starting to scare me is the lack of infrastructure. Just went to Atlantic City,120 miles one way, and all the charge stations were ‘occupied ‘. Today the market is what 2-3% electric.
This is what I have been telling everyone! We are not ready to be even 25% electric and Atlantic City has a lot more charge stations then those in Midwest
Definitely not ready for prime time for intercity travel. We can forget about talking about road trips on electric. Electric will be a city car only.
Thanks for the review. The black cladding is fine with me and actually gives the Cosmic Pearl White color a contemporary and cool black and white two tone effect. I really like the look and styling inside and out and the larger screen on the Limited. I ordered a Limited in Cosmic White. Subaru excels with AWD, X-Mode, Eyesight, and although I considered other EVs--I live at the top of a mountain in NC and we have been getting more snow in recent years, so the X-Mode and AWD has been a lifesaver. Since they only made 6,500 and I made it into the queue, I did not want to wait another year. The range and charging speed suffice fine for us. We will probably drive our 2019 Forrester for longer trips for awhile. I also feel the Subaru brand is reliable, their corporate brand beats out some of the other EV makers, and I am feeling grateful I was able to be an early adopter.
Is anyone else underwhelmed by this offering?
It is underwhelming...
Cancelled my reservation. Just cannot drive a Toyota with no spare tire and limited range.
@@DavGreg what other choice do we have now? A $65k Tesla or a $55K Ioniq 5 or EV6?
I enjoy the two with their different take on the review! Alex has such insight on reviewing cars, pre answers all my questions on this car. Great duo review!
I thought that looked like Alex holding the camera in the reflection..
He was! We help each other out with filming sometimes :)
That steering column looks hilarious, sooo futuristic lol
Very disappointing it having the charge rate of my 2017 Bolt. I suppose it might help them achieve Toyota's goal of a 10 year battery warranty but we use our ICE Forester for road trips so the Solterra is off the list until it has a modern charge curve that is competitive.
Those slow charging speeds are UNACCEPTABLE!!! I’m loving my model y performance
I think we still need to see the charging curve before drawing conclusions. But yeah, the 100 kW charger took me aback.
agreed on all counts
Bolt is 50kw Subaru is 100kw
Koreans are definitely winning in the EV space. The Japanese have been losing it lately.
That’s what I said all along. You literally just admitted what I’ve been saying. Everyone on here has made fun of me for this 🤦♂️
I totally agree the Koreans have already mopped the bz4x soltera and even the RZ450e off the floor before the latter even gets unveiled
REALLY? Widespread examples of Car Fires and Recalls out of the Korean cars. Japan being more measured/timing - by focusing on Hybrids has kept them out of
RECALL blasts 💥 that Kia and Hyundai keep getting
@@nextleveljourney6612 the fire recall applies to older gasoline Hyundai Kia’s. The Kona ev had the fire risk yes but this is an all new ev. I msure they fixed it by then and wised up
ruclips.net/video/Tv1tLI7v_S4/видео.html
This news report says that Kia/Hyundai have a massive Court Settlement for millions of drivers of of their cars:
ruclips.net/video/8erCvq2ER7M/видео.html
Nice to see a bit of collaboration again with Alex-on-Autos!
Tbh honest the whole car looks like a Toyota with Subaru badges on it
On "One-pedal driving", Alex was 100% right. The driver may enjoy it but the passenger hates it. I know what he's saying. That being said, I'm really impressed with this Subaru/Toyota vehicle. I have an ID.4, but this is a great effort from the Subaru/Toyota collaboration. Great review! Thanks!!
It's cool that there's 4 levels of Regen, selectable with the paddle shifters.
How do these BEV’s perform in braking distance in ice and snowy conditions with the additional battery weight?
the casual collab was golden
How much does the concept of ‘avoid first gen products, wait for gen 2’ apply to the Solterra?
I'm glad Subaru is finally getting an EV, and I'm buying a Solterra in a few weeks. The interior is all Toyota and is shared with the Bz4x (from which it is based) as well as the new Prius, including the seats. I'm not thrilled about the dashboard, I wish they would have taken the cues from the Venza instead. It has a more traditional instrument cluster with a small holographic that displays your speed and other data on the windshield. I realize the battery pack is expensive, but for +$50k for the Touring I would have hoped the interior was a little nicer and not just ported from the Prius.
Is that Alex behind the camera? :) Love you guys.
That is quite the infotainment upgrade for a Subaru, similar to the new NX tablet style head unit which make sense? I noticed Alex off the reflection off the new grill and I’m like wayment… that’s not Rob 😂
Please, as an auto journalist, learn the difference between kw and kwh...... 17:43, 17:58. The battery size is kwh, everything else like charging speed and power is kw
200 miles of range is terrible, manufactures need to focus on range of at least 300. Factor in use of AC or Heater range will dramatically be reduced by 40%. My Hyundai IONIQ 5 only fully charges at 80% and with the use of the heater the mileage is affected by 50%, ridiculous. Manufacturers and reviewers need to step up and give us the real world road tests.
The Ionic doesn’t have a heat pump system does it?
@@MrChadder007 all I know is that when I use the heater in my Ionic, range is severely affected. I haven't had the need to use the AC yet, but I imagine it would be the same scenario.
Looks great but the power and range is a no go
0-60 is 6.2 seconds.
Depends on the price, but yes, doesn't seem competitive presently.
High horsepower is a Tesla thing so that they could boast 0-62 in less than 4s. Most people drive like your mom(get it? YOUR MOM lol), it would also be safer since you dont have idiots that would always boast "it accelerates 0-60 in 3s"
@@ameserich its also a range thing too, high voltage motors are a bit more efficient and have much higher re-generative breaking but theyre also more expensive and its also worse for bettery health because of higher charging-discharging rates, I'm pretty sure they're gunning for the price and longevity factor with the handling, awd, ground clearance and battery heater for colder climate for European and extreme climate buyers
@@shivamarya5225 not really. electric motors are capable of 2x torque, 200 horsepower motor would have 350-400nm of torque... that is why i dont understand why they always make EV cars too powerful, my understanding is that high hp EV is only for marketing
I actually like the exterior, the interior is… interesting lol
As usual another amazing review by Sofyan, by the way video quality is fantastic specially inside the vehicle, great camera for sure.
13:47 Why did the rear seats sound so hollow?
Quite honestly probably our next vehicle after the lease is up on our Outback XT.
Welcome to Toyota
Keep the outback XT. Wait for next generation. That's what I'll do. I have the 2018 Honda crv awd touring for my wife and the 2022 ascent for the family. If I want to trade the crv, I would get the Kia ev 6 gt line awd or the Volvo ev instead.
As the owner of a 2021 Outback XT Onyx that would be a big step down.
Don't do it... EV is not the near future, flash came to warn me. Lol
220 miles EPA range is more like 170 miles in the winter, maybe less, if you live somewhere it gets cold. That ~50 mile range reduction could significantly lower the car's utility for some use cases. In my case living in the PHL metro area, it would take day trips to say NYC or Baltimore without having to public charge off the table.
And if you have a heavy foot or you like to drive fast, 140 miles.
It’s got a heat pump which minimizes cold temperature range reductions.
The range is fine for Soccer Moms (and Dads) but not for someone who wants to go anywhere in the boonies.
Glad you said it feels like a Toyota RAV4 prime. It looks like one in my opinion too. Nice looking car though. I also like the doorhandles and how they didn’t try to hard. Just give me something that works!
it's the bZ4X but rebadge basically
Thank you, gentlemen! My Solterra has been ordered and expected in April. Looking forward to getting an EV, hopefully with free charging, as gas prices are going to be upwards to $7.00 per gallon soon.
😁
Enjoy your Toyota. I cancelled my reservation.
I'm honestly glad this car doesn't have too much power - we don't need everyone driving around in cars that go from 0-60 in 3 seconds lmao
Yeah, it's already seconds quicker than a Forester.
Good looking car. Mach E front end, Rav 4 back end
The big question is “how much” and is this the big battery version or the small battery version with a larger capacity pack to follow? Probably the latter given the disappointing range figures. On paper this thing blows, but when you take a closer look that range figure is about what you get from a Mach-E SR AWD which makes sense if there’s gonna be a bigger battery option down the road. Compared to an Ioniq 5 or EV6 this thing does not stack up, so if this is the biggest pack you’ll be able to get I have no idea why you buy this car over the competition. Again price comes into play. If economy is your focus, ditch the AWD and get a Leaf, Bolt or a KoNiro twin. If you want premium, why this over anything else out there?
In terms of range, you have to factor in this is an AWD first attempt from both Subaru & Toyota. Don’t think the Mach-E or ID.4 at this price point would match this one’s off-road capability. And ‘does it have a frunk?’ is not the million dollar question. Sofyan is so focused on this minimal space that’s only in a few EV’s like Tesla or his Mach-E…it really shouldn’t matter since there’s so much more interior space. And the straight line 0-60 times are not what these types of EV are intended for…they’re comfort cruisers or people movers. Not every models needs a performance edition with 4 sec 0-60 times. If so, maybe he should only be reviewing sports cars, GTs & hot hatches. Just be more be balanced my man…
I get better economy with My AWD Forester.......Low purchase price...low depreciation.....And in Iowa, lower annual liscence fees.........Iowa already has very high licensing fees and are planning even higher fees for electrics......Maybe as much as $1000 dollars annualy,,,,Maybe more........1% annually of purchase price plus $400 more for electric........Paul
This an exciting car, because Subaru and EV is a perfect pairing. And, that interior with the cockpit like layout is amazing. I really hope this kicks off well
Hey Sofyan, what kind of camera do you use? Thank you in advance
Love the joined force review, like Marvel and DC in one movie. Great job.
the steering wheel looks like the bumper cars at the fair.
Very informative, great job as usual. Don't stop what you do.
How it is compared to Rav4 prime? Does it gets overheated in hot summer off road 🤔?
Has the wheels falling off issue been resolved yet?
yay Alex is the other channel I would watch for a review like this so you might as well do a cross over episode.
How does the one pedal drive work in a traffic jam situation where we need to suddenly brake sometimes and there is no brake pedal?
How well are the batteries going to perform in temperatures around Zero to 2 degrees?
That rear centre console spot looks like in the future a screen might be present
Does it coast on d without regen,or do you have allways a bit? In other words does it freewheel?
How would this do on soft powdery sand? Run flat tires? Does it have the same wheel falling off issue as the Toyota?
I think it looks pretty handsome. Maybe too much cladding but overall I think it works in gray, and the interior is basically all Toyota. I just wish it had more range though.
I too describe cars as handsome ever since starting to watch this channel lol.
hmm.. a bit torn on this...The Range and time to charge gets me considering 2 pretty well known companies. but will change maybe,,So No Rear wiper? i saw dirty on the back window if you go offroad in the dirt gonna be hard to see again when you get on the road.
I love your show interesting Car So I have a question are you gonna do the Cadillac CT5V black wing
the black accent on the fender makes it look rugged.....im 50 and i prefer more elegant looking cars...i think i like body color for that part
I totally agree with Alex on the one pedal drive!
What phone is that in the charging compartment? I hope it’s a pro max, because if it’s a smaller phone it seems to be a tight fit and any larger one won’t be able to charge in there.
I always have to say one thing: You are just such an marvelous car reviewer of all time. Also I totally in love with this EV. I rather have to get this vehicle over it's competition. But excellent review sofyan.
Why does it look like the rav4 prime???
That charging time and range is not going to cut it...
Definitely best looking Subaru in there lineup
I am glad they came out with an electric vehicle...however, I would love a hybrid model. We had lots of power outages in my area last summer...so, I have trust issues with all electric.
235 range is underwhelming.
Depends on price. If they can sell it at lower than Ioniq 5 or EV6, then it is ok.
It's best to have enough range to get you a couple of hours down the road on road trips, but not too much more, since 90% of the time you'll just be hauling around a large percentage of dead weight batteries when driving locally and charging at home.
It’s adequate for vast majority.
Are you driving 150+ miles
inside of 3 days?
@@jml9550 Really doubt they would do that. All EVs are artificially priced high. For anything premium, Tesla blow the competition out of the water for 300 to 400 miles. It’s Toyota they will price it same as Kia and Hyundai and charge a more expensive interest rate because they are Toyota. Japanese still just riding on their nameplate only, but for how long?
@@StevenHoagland Yes but in winter time, your range will be cut in half.
Does it work -40’C whether?
Would love a best of the year collab with Alex!
What! No rear window wiper! How did that happen?
Great collaboration! I have a reservation but I'm still waiting to see about pricing
Question... as hybrids/electric/plug-ins etc. Become more available, do you think there will be a continued rise in gasoline prices in order to push evs? Also do you think this is the way to go with the mile range being so low compared to gasoline fueled cars, or should we wait until the batteries and range get better?
That is the current’s administration’s plan. Thats why they cut most incentives for oil companies to produce more.
Gas prices have nothing to do with evs being pushed but k
@@Gadgettime potential profit is what determines oil extraction, refinement and gasoline production, not the current administration. It’s a global commodity in a (mostly) capitalist world.
@@tpolerex7282 you are absolutely right potential profit determines it. The current administration policies capped it. There is no incentive for oil gasoline companies to produce more.
I think it looks quite nice, not everyone needs an EV that has 400hp and does 0-60 in 3 seconds. Someone needs to attend to the affordable market, cos everyone seems to be doing only the premium thing. I also wish Subaru did a little more with the interior, I mean this interior is quite nice, but I wish it was more Subaru, the infotainment is an upgrade tho, because Toyota’s infotainment is way better than Subaru’s
The problem is at $40k there’s way better options in this price range. Yes, you may not need the power but if its the same price who cares plus they have better range.
I for one don’t like that they’re trying to pass these off as crossovers. That’s a generous term for this and the EV6. The cut off back just cuts off valuable capacity back there.
There is no way i would pay over $50k for the limited trim and for a range of 225 miles or so. The HP is not the issue, the range is low and what will be the range loss in cold weather? The car seems ok otherwise but pricey with low range. No thanks
The best thing we can say about this Subaru is that it does NOT have a despicable CVT.
This is a cool SUV but the omission of a glove box and a panoramic roof that doesn't open is kind of strange
Loved the review! And soft offroader without spare tire is not good for me IMO. Also, I do not know what Toyota/Subaru are thinking with those front fenders.
Is there room for a full spare in that vehicle?
I dunno what ure saying about the charging capabilities,
I visited a dealership today, and the salesman said it would take about 30min to charge it.
I dont remember if it was from 0 to 100, or from 0 to 75%, but it was one of those two..
So I dont understand when u say its gonna take entire 10 hours to charge.. with fast charging..
Guessing the prices is going to be in the low 40's before tax credits. Sad that Toyota and Subaru could NOT come up with a 300+ mile range for their first EV.
Based on my experience with an EV with a 240 mile range on a full charge, anything below that number become problematic when you want to take a long trip because of the unreliability of the fast charging network in the US. Only last year Toyota was bad mouthing EV's and so making one that fails to meet or exceed the competition makes me wonder if they're trying to discourage EV buyers so that they can later say, see, we told you the EV proposition was a not a good idea. After all, this is the company that refuses to give up hydrogen EV's.
40K for a new car is cheap nowadays.....I mean, hasn't your pay at your job tripled here along with prices? Mine did, NOT!
Yes, 40K is obsurd!! And good luck paying cash for that.
This sounds like a fairly good option for what the majority of folks would want in an EV. I wonder what the launch pricing is going to be like.
they need to reduce the cladding by about 50% and it'll be fine, it's a bit too much. Not sure why they went with so much on this and the new wrx.
Does it have a rear wiper? I don't see it. Hopefully it doesn't need one.
I have the same concern as how it would work without a rear wiper, especially when one drives in off-road and rear glass covered with dust. I was surprised reviewers made no comment about it.
Another great review. BUT, you think the EV badge looks tacky? I think the whole dash looks tacky. Just my opinion, for what it's worth. Thanks for showing us this EV in such a detailed manner. I always appreciate that.
Not good enough. VW and Hyundai/Kia are on a different level.
That’s what I originally predicted
They just started making ev give it some time
But they don't have the AWD that Solterra does.
Their battery are also on another level blowing up
@@djkrazyfreestyler2801 tell me exactly which model blew up.
I love this car so much its amazing wow wonderful looks good
so nice to see the japanese dabble in GM grade badge engineering!
How much is the monthly subscription to activate the heated seats and the keyfob?
We believe Toyota charges $8 bucks a month of $60 for the year.
So is this a tester for Toyota bZ?
Any Eyesight? Cross Traffic Alert, etc.?
This is a real nice interior.
with the ugliest stearing wheel ever
looks pretty basic inside
Is that a BZ4X?
Where do I start?!? I guess when it comes to the interior were going back to the Japanese 80’s…which isn’t a good thing.
Can you do 2022 sorento x-line? Thank you!
Why? It's hard riding, overpriced junk.
Hey Sofyan, I am trying to pick between the Toyota BZ4X (fully-loaded, AWD) and the Kia EV6 (GT-Line, AWD). Which would you pick? Anything over the other? Thanks!
Well, we technically haven’t driven the bZ4x yet… and we also suspect it may end up being cheaper than the Kia. Personally, we think the EV6, Ioniq5, and Mach E are our favorites right now so it’s only going to come down to the pricing of this car and the Toyota.
@@theredline I hope they come out with a longer range version of the Toyota or another EV with 300+ miles of range, but I think I’m going to get the EV6 this summer. Thanks!
Hi, is the Solterra manufactured in Japan or USA or…?
Never mind, I believe these are built in Japan & China at Toyota plant(s)?
Nobody and I mean nobody does cladding like Subaru😄
LMAOOOO I was waiting for this comment 🤣🤣
@@user-xf5dj1up8g Wait no longer😁
Do a DCFC test to see its charging curve and how long it will stay at its rated-100kW max power rate.
I’m confused on these electric cars, a full tank of gas will get you probably somewhere between 300-350 miles…but this electric car will only get you maybe 220?? Wtf is the point?? Where does the power come from?? How can you really “off road” with a plug in? What am I missing??
Put it like this, your suppose to charge ur vehicle at home, my sister spend like 10 to 12 dollars on 300 miles for her Tesla. This is zero maintenance aside from brakes and tires.
@@dragodavidCE geez, that’s good. Do you know how long it usually takes to charge? Wish I could get an EV right now but I wouldn’t have a dedicated charging place other than maybe at work, lack of infrastructure worries me, and the battery time taking a hit during to cold winters. Hopefully the tech and infra get much better during my lifetime
Looks appealing except for the piano black console
Subaru first ev. I wait out until further improvement to range and torque
people looking to shop this car isn't looking for performance, lol... they're looking at EV version of Forester, and this is it. It can do more ground clearance and smaller wheels though... hopefully a wilderness edition is in the plans.
Not so, I would love an BEV version of the Outback but not the Forester.
OMG, I love both of you guys..... I feel like you guys have been together but I think that is for another platform. I'm just saying...
It's Subaru's new color: Dusty Blue
with only 230-250 mile range, I personally will still have range anxiety . I believe the RAV4 prime makes better since with an all electric range of 50 miles then it turns into a hybrid for another 500 miles. thoughts.