Nissan Ariya e-4ORCE is Impressive EV Tech With Weird Spelling
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2024
- The all-electric Nissan Ariya is a big leap forward from it’s first EV, the LEAF. Competing with Tesla Model Y, Mustang Mach-E, Kia EV6, Hyundai Ioniq 5 and Volkswagen ID.4, Ariya has something they lack- e-4ORCE. It’s not an algebra formula. The dual-motor, all-wheel drive e-4ORCE system uses torque vectoring, rear-wheel recuperation independent from the front, and a bunch of other dynamics to tame body movements. It offers a more comfortable ride quality and helps reduce motion sickness in passengers too. Tom Voelk travels to Sonoma County in California to drive an AWD Ariya Platinum+ and check out the new Pro Pilot Assist 2.0 handsfree driving system.
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00:00 Intro
00:54 Ariya Size
1:19 Powertrain
2:41 Charging
3:09 How e-4ORCE Works
4:24 Pricing
4:49 Pro Pilot Assist 2.0
5:46 Performance
6:34 Handling
7:03 e-4ORCE Demonstration
8:52 Real World Range
10:07 Interior
12:39 Back Seat
13:37 Cargo
14:33 Red Light Green Light
15:34 Summary
17:04 Epilogue
18:02 Before I Go… 
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Every single car journalist put so much focus on peak charging speed, saying it is slow. But what really matter is the AVERAGE charging speed when charging from 10 to 90 percent. If you know anything about engineering, AVERAGE charging speed is what actually reduce the charging time, NOT peak charging speed. And Nissan has one of the best and most flat charging curve out of all EV. It can hold above 100 kw charging speed even at 60 percent state of charge. The shape of the charging curve is so important, and it is the area under the curve across the whole charging session that counts.
Without access to the car for a couple days there's no way to test that. I'm going by the info Nissan provided. And in that regard, this is slower than E-GMP vehicles.
Tom Voelk is a class act of an automotive journalist and I’m always stoked to see his reviews.
100% agree. The first time I watched his video it was giving me Motor Week vibes and thought it must be a tv show somewhere. Then of course it’s only a RUclips channel. I could definitely see this airing on PBS or MotorTrend tv.
He is one of the best in the business
Just want to say I think you give the most enjoyable and insightful car reviews right now.
Dealerships are killing this car. In my area base model Aria’s cost almost $75k. That is fully loaded Model Y Performance. I love the look but this thing at these insane dealerships adm prices is just no way I could consider this sadly.
That’s a major issue with a lot of dealerships…..it’s why so many people call them “stealerships”. I know Ford dealers have been doing really shady things with the new F150 Lightening like telling people their order is canceled then selling that vehicle to some idiot that is willing to pay $20,000 or more over the selling price.
The level of greed will get these dealers/manufacturers in the end. Volvo/Polestar do not play these sort of games and as a result, they have moved to the top of my list. The dealerships could have simply asked for sticker and done well but they got too greedy.. GM, Ford, and RAM/Jeep are paying the price as customers are saying no thanks. They added close to 10K to the price of their trucks over the last 5 years,, add market adjustment son anything on their lots, and still play the back office financing games. A lot of customers who bowed to this manipulation will pay dearly when the find out what their trad-in value will be.
@@chrispnw2547 Definitely, the best deals these days are going with buying a car that's a couple years old from a private seller. Then test drive it right to the nearest stealership to have them make sure it has it's recalls fixed and electronic updates, cheap way to get a "certified used vehicle". After that just keep up with the recalls and oil changes and/or keep the batteries charged between 15% and 80% and just drive it until the wheels fall off. Rinse and repeat.
just test drove a base model 63kw/small battery with FWD price was $44k (have the pic of the window sticker on my phone). some testers complain about the single motors being slow, but technically they're only "slow" on the immediate take off. the FWD still has that desirable EV torque that lets you out accelerate most of the gas cars around you. in fact at low speeds you can hear the front tires struggling for grip which means the power is obviously there, but feed in any more and your just going to "understeer" and blow the tires off the thing, therein what's the point for the Soccer Mom taking the kids to practice. ride quality and build quality is the "killer app" for OEM's like Nissan with decades of experience screwing cars together, and it shows. the unique Japanese styling and the fact that it's NOT a Tesla is plenty enough to not make me care about receiving any tax credit. for sure those consumers struggling with OCD may "desire" one...? but you don't need a rebate to buy any trim level of Ariya, cause you're "getting something" for your money no matter what level you buy into.
It has already been said hundreds of times, but I want to say it again: Tom is THE BEST! He makes his videos look effortless, but we all know that there is a *lot* of work involved to look *this* good all of the time. Thank you Tom (and Martin Campbell too!)👍
Thanks man!
I never blink at Nissan, but this car looks really good! It’s a handsome looking vehicle
The GoPro mount giving up was classic.
One thing for anyone cross-shopping to keep in mind is the real world charging curve is VERY good. With 10-80 (and in some cased 5-80) is around 30-32 minutes not nissans advertised 40 minutes for the large battery models in the states. Bjorn nyland did a charging test with the big battery ariya vs ID4 and other competitors and the Ariya out charged the VW pretty handily because of how flat the curve stays.
Reviews are always excellent, intelligent, well-made, entertaining, I think Tom would be great covering anything, he's just consistently excellent. Look forward to these every week.
I never stop loving your videos Tom! Your coverage and reviews of new vehicles is always the best in the business! You mention that your a 1 sometimes 2 man operation but to be honest I enjoy your videos more than the major productions like Motor Trend.
Another great review Tom
Another great review Tom. Thanks….love the information and detail.
Totally agree. Concise and impartial review.
Quality once again Mr. Volk. It seems there are no exceptions to this rule. Such a joy to watch.
Great review Tom. have been shopping for this versus an ID4 and this is very helpful!
Its still Tuesday and it took me longer to go thru the comments than watch the video. Tom, you have come a long ways from having only a handful of comments, congratulations!
The beige color is awesome. Beautiful color in Beige.
Thanks for share 🙏🏼
We keep hearing about the demise of Nissan but they drive nicely and are comfortable.
As a Nissan Ariya Evolve+ with e-4ORCE AWD, I am starting to get used to the way it handles and it's performance. I think it is the perfect EV for me and Nissan Corp/ Dealership in Boulder, CO, have really poured on the customer service experience. I get a lot of emails but if you look at it as a learning experience for your new vehicle it's not that bad. Tom your reviews as always are a wealth of information for each vehicle you test. I am very pleased with my Ariya and as with all cars, the variety of vehicles available to consumerss can make the car buying process hard. The Ariya fits my niche, that's the best way to describe it to anyone.
An excellent and entertaining review. I subscribed.
That's one of the best, most deserved humble brags I've ever heard with the sworn secrecy stuff. Pity this isn't getting the tax incentive, I'd be pretty keen on this because damn I love the interior. Excited for the future of vehicles
Thanks Tom. I think I could manage with this car's current range.
I had the opportunity to sit in the Ariya last year at the NY Autoshow, and agree the interior front seating positions are very nice!
OUTDATED car, Inefficient and too HEAVY.
@@markplott4820Go hump your Tesla instead!
🙏👏👏👏 THANKS TEAM DRIVEN ........HAVE A BEAUTIFUL TUESDAY EVERYONE...
My kids always throws up on trips longer than 60km, but after 250km with the Ariya they were just fine.
Have you seen their lo-fi music playing ad video? It’s awesome!!
No "frunk" doesn't bother me as long as the space saved goes to the interior.
Generally, that's the way it goes. Volvo/Polestar are exceptions.
I liked the review, interesting car.
Gloss black plastic cladding and capacitive touch buttons - ugh; the auto pilot technology seemed impressive.
Great video Tom, but when you state statistics in that quant American miles and Fahrenheit format, maybe you could place the Kilometer and Celsius equivalent on the bottom of the screen for your viewers on the rest of the planet to read. Thanks, keep up the good work.
Typically I've been doing that, just didn't have the time this week.
Thank you Tom for the nice presentation but I continue to be gobsmacked by these vehicle prices (starting at $48K) for a Nissan. A simple look at the competition says it all:
VW ID4 $39K, IONIQ 5 $42K, BMW iX1, MINI Cooper Countryman Electric, Tesla Model Y, etc. I'm sorry but it is difficult to put these vehicle at the top of the list. Nissan lost several years of competitive advantage in not having this vehicle available for sell.
It's always interesting to see how the market reacts. Let's see in 6-12 months. I'm in Phoenix right now and I've seen a couple in the wild.
Thank you for sharing this video. Much appreciated and well informed. Not sure, do you remember if the back seats recline a little like in the Model Y?
Can't say for sure, was in kind of a rush.
Yes, they do.
Finally someone has discovered that tall drivers need extra legroom, specifically a place to put their right knee. So the ability of getting that center console out of the way is brilliant. (I wish Ford would have though of this. The last Ford with decent legroom was the Excursion.) On the other hand, please don't tell me to be gentle with touchhy feely haptic buttons! Give me lots of real sturdy buttons which I can push as hard as I want. Even if it looks like a flight engineer's panel from an old B-747 lots of buttons is OK by me. I would seriously consider a plug in hybrid version of this car. Thanks Tom!
I really hope Nissan works on improving level 2 and level 3 charging speeds for 2025 because otherwise this is a nice EV option that is sadly getting overshadowed at a time when Nissan could use some positive buzz. As it is now, the hands free driving feature and interior design are among the best in the EV segment at any price.
Tom, you're in my neck of the woods!! Somehow you found Sonoma County on a dry day.
Dodged a bullet there. Other waves had rain.
Hey! Tom, you should've brought your brother along for the back seat review!😂
He's on the TSA No Fly list.
Tom, Great insight on the Ariya. At the end of the video you were standing next to a gray Ariya. Is this the boulder gray with the black roof? I have a reservation for a boulder gray but the pics from dealer website looks light/baby blue. The one you were standing next to looks medium gray. You brought your pacific northwest weather to the bay area. Cheers.
People see Teslas as something upscale, but with mainstream manufacturers coming up with more and more EV models and Tesla’s poor build quality, I wonder if Tesla will have to lower their price in order to remain competitive? I rather take this than a Model Y.
there are lots of white Teslas in Europe, just did a long road trip, some bad weather. The Teslas look like the paint is cheap, no shine, very dull, even the darker coloured ones. Red seems to hold out best, but then again, to me red only looks good on smaller cars, like sports cars.
This is what we will see as dedicated car manufacturers scale up. Nissan has been Tesla's only competition in EVs until recent years. I look forward to seeing what they can accomplish, especially by pushing lessons learned from their Formula E teams.
Prescient comment. That’s exactly what Tesla had to do.
You predicted the future.
It's too bad that Nissan didn't take the momentum they had with the Leaf and keep it going with other models. They could have been one of the world leaders in EVs at this point but now they - like most other Japanese automakers - are playing catchup. BMW has a similar story. The i3 launched in 2013 and was sold until just recently, but now BMW is trying to make a splash for themselves with recent offerings.
In a way they kept updating the Leaf, the late models Leafs are pretty much completely different cars from the originals, Nissan is pretty famous for cramming new tech into a decade's old chassis. Though for the price the "new" Bolt just blows it out the water. It's a shame this car didn't come out five years ago, and this is coming from a Nissan sports car fan.
@@anydaynow01 True, but the one thing they REALLY should have updated - the battery's thermal management - didn't get fixed even after they had so many issues with it. In any case, the Leaf gets rave reviews from its ownerbase so that says a lot.
She dos not charge slower than others in her range, dos not spike but charge times look the same or even shorter. Look it up :) cheers
I was badgered by a very insistent Nissan rep when I sat in this at the DC auto show a few weeks ago who insisted that this did qualify for the federal tax credit. If reliability issues didn’t put me off this brand, that surely would, but at least Nissan didn’t find a way to put a CVT in this!
Nice job Tom. It seems like a solid all around vehicle for a small family or empty nesters.
nope , its CRAP . just ask MUNRO live.
@Mark Plott I'm guessing a Tesla fan boy?
@@peterward1698 - Guessed wrong, just an Informed Consumer.
I follow MUNRO live .
@Mark Plott Munro Is a tesla fan boy too. Just this week he said tesla stock should be $five thousand by the end of the decade. He is not much of a big picture guy.
@@gregkramer5588 - MUNRO knows Tesla, good and BAD. he holds no JABS back, tells the TRUTH about Automotive. Sandy 2 years ago SOLD all his STOCK in TSLA. MUNRO is UNBIASED and cannot be BOUGHT, like so many FAKEtubers. who get PAID for favorable FAKE reviews on cars. MUNRO is not afraid of saying a car is SHIT💩.
Keep in mind, the real-world charging curve is VERY good for the Ariya. It charges much faster than Nissan advertised, especially the large battery models.
Yup, I've heard that since this video was produced. At the time (and with just 12 hours with the car) we all had to go with the numbers that Nissan offered and no mention of the curve.
I would have tested an Ariya when we were EV shopping but Nissan was very slow getting it to market in the USA. We thought about the EV6 but ended up buying a BMW i4 e40. Since I own the car, I have so far managed to keep the battery SOC in the 80-20% sweet spot even in winter, despite a once weekly 150 mile commute. The FWD Ariya should match that, but 60% of the AWD version’s EPA range is about 163 miles at best and would probably drop to 125 in winter.
Is 90% every two days on level 2 charge good or should I just do 80%
It should have trickled down by now that peak charging speeds say little about the actual charging times, at least not, if we talk 10-80 or 5-90, larger charges. The charging curve, charging losses and the ability to effectively precondition the battery in heat and cold are much more important, and Ariya is a perfect example of that. In fact, it's charging performance is comparable to a Tesla Model Y and even Ioniq 5 if we look at large charges and actual energy delivered, and it actually is faster even in winter. And while doing so, it wastes a LOT less energy. Flat charging curve, little losses, resiliant battery chemistry and battery cooling and heating, that is the sustainable way to go. And Nissan did just that.
Didn't go into detail this time. Obviously. You know there's myriad of issues when it comes to charging (temp, terminal speed, pack state of charge, curve, preconditioning). Many don't. It comes down to how often an owner charges on the road and whether there's easy access to 350kW terminals where Kia/Hyundai/Porsche has an advantage . Still, near as I can tell, apple-to-apples, the E-GMP platform cars juice up from 10-80% quicker at a 150kW station, probably by some 10 minutes (I've seen an easy 30 minutes with EV6 compared to a stated 40 for Ariya). Not the end of the world but slower. And you've probably experienced that chargers seldom deliver their full rated speed. Still, this is a perceived shortcoming for the Nissan. For those that almost always charge at home this is not an issue. Wish more understood that.
@@DrivenCarReviews Allow me to chime in. Thing is, that 10-80% doesn't mean anything, unless you put it into perspective to the pack size. The Ioniq 5 LR has about 72kWh usable, so 10-80% means roughly 50,82kWh delivered (plus losses, which tend to be pretty high both on EGMP and Tesla, due to exessive peak rates, we are talking about 10%ish on a regular basis here). 50,82kWh on the Ariya with the large pack means 10-73%, and it will do that in 29 minutes, while not needing more than a peak of 116kW and losing not more than 3% on average. So it's easier on the grid, easier on the battery, it wastes a considerably less amount of energy and money and it doesn't care, if the 150kW charger won't bring the 150kW. I'd call that a win.
Now, with Ariya, it's important to understand, that Nissan took the virtual battery approach to the next level with this car. It's a 91kWh pack, 87kWh usable, but between 0 and 100%, we have about 80kWh accessible. The car has a massive reserve of about 5kWh, plus top and low end buffers. That's how they can pull off that flat curve. That also means, that you can drive Ariya down to 5% or even 1% easily, without having to fear not making it to another charger if the one you chose should be down. It also means, that you can easily charge up to 90% or 95% even, since the curve drops a lot shallower than on other cars. Also, this means that battery preconditioning (and yes, opposed to EGMP, Ariya has real battery heating) will be active till the bitter end, whereas EGMP has to shut down at 20% SOC, which pretty much defeats the purpose. I've seen Ioniq 5s with the latest update limping around at 50kW charging speed this winter, and it wasn't even below 32°F. What this means: Ariya will give you a much larger chunk of juice in one charge, and it will give it a lot more consistent, be it super cold or super hot. It also means, that Ariya will to a 1200mi trip with significantly less charging stops than an EGMP car, and therefore actually be faster (!) than an Ioniq 5. See, despite the peak rate being low, Ariya is a super good long distance cruiser. And it's the much more sustainable setup.
Ariya is really coming in at the wrong price and time. With no federal incentives there are much better values out there. Sounds like a great car.
sounds like a good car , until you Actually DRIVE it.
the Steering Wheel comes off.
@@markplott4820I’ve been driving the car for 3 months now. Steering wheel still sits tight where it should. One of the best cars I’ve ever driven.
Gotta say, the most impressive thing about this car is the swing out table for the front row.
Think about the bazillion times Americans eat in their cars, especially on trips, where a tiny table would've come in handy. I hope Nissan starts a trend there xD
Americans eating while driving is one reason they scare me on the road. Drinking, shaving, doing make up. Now a car company is making it official.
Love the looks and opening roof. Definitely on my shopping list. Just disappointed with the singular interior color choice on top trim. And for some reason the red isn’t available on their website configurator. Trim level name is different too.
The red is in VERY short supply and red orders will be delayed almost 6 months. The New Passion Red Paint uses a very hard to get paint pigment (at least thats what corporate says to us )
EDIT: Also the E4rce models will be available with black or Light gray interior on Evolve and Empower trim packages once the AWD system is moved into the non platinum trims
@@justinbyers7472 too bad about the red. It looks sharp. I’m the type of buyer that likes all the bells and whistles so I’d want the Platinum trim and I don’t like it only comes with the blue and black interior. And yeah I saw the lower trims have the solid color interior.
looks nice. thats about it.
Infiniti needs a version based on this platform ASAP!
Nice ev
Looks good. But would take a Model Y any day over this.
Yeah this would be fine in town or short range point A to Point B travel. But not when you go out into the back hills ghost town hunting. no level 2 chargers in chloride and would have knocked out the grid in Monticello on Winston. i think my next car will need to be hybrid.
You drove right by my house! And yet you didn't wave? Next time you come to Napa, I'll give you a list of great places to visit.
You’re in Bodega Bay?
@@DrivenCarReviews I'm in Napa. Been watching you for years. I know you've been here a few times (once in Yountville) to see new models. Bodega Bay is a favorite haunt. If you go there again, try to stop by Gourmet AuBay. Good food, great wine and a perfect view.
@@christopherprose3881 Thanks CP but I hardly have time to shoot the car. I was an hour late for dinner. Pretty typical. Love the area though.
This seems like a nice car that's too expensive. I like the specs in terms of range and horsepower and I think it looks fine in side and out. I think it would be a hit if it qualified for the tax credit, but it doesn't. The real question for a lot of the new EVs is "Will they make a lot of them and will they sell a lot of them?" Even the BZ4X will sell if they don't make a lot of them, which I don't think they will.
I would disagree that a driver side charge port would be better. Why? Road side charging. All the city chargers in my area are curb side. Also when or if Tesla opens up their network, it will be on the same side as any Tesla if on the passenger side.
I get that. My argument is that 80-90% of charging is done at home, and having it by the driver's door makes it easier (and thus more likely) for people to plug in when they get home.
@@DrivenCarReviews lets split the difference and put it in the back 😂 under the license plate like the old days.
First time I’ve noticed 2 shark fin antennas mounted on the roof.
The second one is for the navi system.
Excellent review.
FWIW, you are one of my favorite auto channels but I now only spend time watching EV reviews.
$63,000, slow charging and no heat pump = Ioniq 5 Limited @$59,000.
it has a heat pump and can battery conditioning due to its battery heater
Ariya has a heat pump. Agreed that charging is slower than E-GMP cars but owners charging at home won't have any issues. MSRP is just a starting point. Hard to know what the real price on any car is from dealership to dealership (or if Tesla is raising or lowering the price this week).
So many manufacturers making these 50-60K two row EVs. Just not enough market space for all of these. Something has to give.
Tom check out some of the European reviews regarding charging. Although only 135 kwh charging the charging curve is extremely flat and is comparable to the Koreans even though initially they go much faster they drop off and the Nissan keeps going.
I'm going by Nissan's numbers. Those indicate that this will be 10 minutes slower from 10 to 80% than the E-GMP vehicles using a 150kW terminal. Hope to get one for a range and charge test.
I'm guessing that you will find what others have and in real world tests it comes very close to the Koreans. Probably better for battery health too.
Nice color but quite expensive, not sure they have a market for this model in Australia.
Hey Tom,
If trying to buy a longer range Ariya ‘on the frugal side’, ALL of the low trim models (cloth seats) with large battery (the 304 mile Venture+ for example), do NOT have heated seats or steering wheel. You have to move up a trim level to get the basic winter necessities for an EV. A shame, b/c even the Venture+ that has lost a number of features is >$48K before destination or options, and heated seats/steering wheel are not available as an option.
Well, that's the way it's always been and always will be. Higher trims have more stuff. It's weird about the Venture though.
Is evil twin on vacation? 😉
So that movable center console is a VERY attractive feature for taller drivers. Don't take too much offense, Tom, but your legs aren't long enough to see how valuable that would be to us longer folk. I have a pickup truck with a bench seat and this essentially does the same thing for the 95% of the time you don't put 3 people in the back.
This was my #2 choice after the model Y, but who knows when they will actually be available.
22kw on board charger, standard in Sweden.
Just another reason to move there.
I didn't understand if it has off-road skills or is only intended for the road ???
Aren’t there trade offs in battery life with faster charging?
Some, but few people DC fast charge their cars enough to really make a huge difference. GM did a comparison with Bolt EV. One was exclusively fast charged, the other only DC fast charged. After 100K miles, the L2 car lost around 5% of its capacity, the DCFC car lost 8%. That said, the Bolt's max charge rate is around 50kW so that probably had something to do with keeping the pack stress down.
Q: Aren’t there trade offs in battery life with faster charging? A: yes, so like the Bolt what a slower charge rate means is the "Glass is Half Full" (which is important given supply chain shortages and scarcity of battery materials). thus like the wisemen have long told us over the centuries "Every Cloud Has a Silver Lining"... the key is one just has to have the intelligence to open their eyes and look for it (because it's there).
I actually believe that most are really wanting a station wagon but are afraid of the "soccer mom" look. Thus they settle for less practicality but salvage some measure of image.
can we get it as a Nissan Stagea? (or at least get Nissan to bring us a fast wagon) I guess no one at Nissan wears gloves (driving or winter). Give me tactile knobs and switches. if the touch stuff is so good, why aren't the window, lock/unlock buttons, and mirror adjust done this way too?
No on the Stagea.
Did Nissan comment at all on this event that they called all the reservation holders who ordered Platinum Red that they can't have them unless they wanted to wait even longer, possibly end of year or next yet decided to give us all the middle finger by sending a fleet of Red ones to this event?
These are pre production units if that helps. The won't ever be for sale.
This doesn't have one pedal driving. You really shouldn't use that term unless the car comes to a complete stop without the use of the brake pedal.
Sorry to hear of its slow charging speed.
TBH, for most owners it won't be an issue since 80-90% of all charging is done at home.
Great review as always.
But this Nissan looks tall and bloated like a Murano. I'd rather have any Tesla.
I work nights, and at times, I've had quite a drive. Not to sound insensitive to my fellow drivers, but I would love a vehicle that would let me sleep on the highway. It would take me a while to get used to the hands-off systems available. I just don't trust them.
How you expected to compete with used model y cheaper twice the Range.
NISSAN Ariya best tezla shit
What is Nissan thinking when pricing? I owned one years ago and found it was built just OK. You can get a Audi Quattro for less than this premium + 4orce. 😂
Not with the same equipment and then you will also be punished by VAG.
@@kajko6868 🙂
Everyone is pushing EVs not interested in government control
"Flush controls work well but not under stress" … 🤦♂️ So they're pre-warning about the delicate touch interface at the press events. When will manufacturers get off this childish obsession with touch interfaces in cars? The list of inadequacies over mechanical switches is becoming ridiculous.
They work well. They were just trying to get ahead of writers pounding on them. And I understand why. The night before I shot some interior footage and thought they were intermittent. It was because I was torquing on them. Light to medium pressure was no issue.
@@DrivenCarReviews - Fair enough, but not knowing how much pressure is enough and how much is too much is a particular flaw of touch interfaces. Mechanical switches give direct and obvious feedback.
@@johnborges5938 Here's the thing- I know it's my job to ferret out information, what's good and bad. I have to determine whether or not an owner after using the car for a week or two will be perfectly happy with something. And one persons flaw is another's win. The smooth surfaces are super easy to clean. They look cool too. These do give feedback, just not if you push them too hard. Personally, I think people will figure it out without any problem
@@DrivenCarReviews - You are a thoughtful and reasonable man, which is part of what makes you such a great reviewer. I certainly wouldn't expect you to be on a tear about touch interfaces; if nothing else it would become tiresome (hey, just ask my friends …). Though there of many of us who would weigh an interior with more physical switchgear and only the bare minimum of touch interfaces as an improvement, I don't think any of us fault you for your balanced perspective. Perhaps those of us who aren't fans of touch will just end up having been out-of-touch curmudgeons. But maybe after the trendiness of it passes, some will realize that some key functions shouldn't have touch controls in a moving vehicle. Now please tell those kids to get off my lawn.
I personally have no issue with the switchless interfaces. Once people get used to them they usually don’t miss the old switches. The haptic feedback in the Nissans makes it that much easier to use.
Am I the only one who thinks that 75% of all new e-SUVs look pretty much the same?! Like the share the same platform or something?! Just me?
Infiniti shed a tear.
The price (with no incentives) and the charging speed make this DOA. Too bad because they seemed to get everything else right
MSRP is what it is, a starting place. The market will correct itself in the real world. That's why I didn't make a huge deal over the higher price.
Too many ads
This sounds like a good product from Nissan, but one cannot view any car in isolation, thus, how does it compare to a Model Y? It doen't, really. It's in the same class a Model Y, but it cannot compare on space, practicality, range and performance. It will have a tough time to sell and make a profit in any country where the model Y and ID3 is sold....
My family has the model y performance, id4 and waiting on the platinum(reserve). They all say the ariya interior is nicer than the model y. Look at the exterior of the model y. The front is bland. Practicality, one big screen is not really that practical. Performance, its very quick, not tesla quick but it was never designed to be a sports car anyways.
Seems like an expensive so so vehicle
MSRP is a starting point. Always has been, always will be.
Nice looking but the range? And sorry to come across as a bit of a Tesla fan boy here but it seems Tom completely ignored Tesla in the comparison. Pretty sure Full Self Driving is superior to all makes and the range is still considered excellent when comparing battery size?? And why oh why do these legacy companies have to have sounds for acceleration?? Just my two cents.
FWIW, I'm trying to determine real world range. Many neighbors and friends that own Teslas tell me they don't come close to the EPA numbers. So there's that. And nearly any automaker that offers the "performance sounds" offers a way to turn them off, or down.
Tesla make noise too.
That acceleration sound must be for certain markets. It is not present in my car.
@@peterward1698 no, no it doesn’t. It’s a slight whine bit no artificial sound is available. I have a Model Y
@Roberts Family My son has a model 3 and it has an option for different acceleration sounds. Canadian market.
3:38 It took focus groups for Nissan to realize that buyers want smoothness?????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?????? The dense hollow heads at Nissan DIDN’T ALREADY KNOW THIS???????!!!!!! Hey Nissan, which F’focus groups said they wanted a piece of 💩 cvt that breaksdown often?????? Or a Nissan Leaf battery that degrade rapidly????? 🤦♂️
This is a really nice roomy good looking vehicle with premium interior components. However, 200 mile range for $50k is a dealbreaker and the platinum at almost $70,000 with the extended range is a little too much for a Nissan. There are other vehicles that will give you more range for less money with similar interior room and features.
So much better than the absolutely disgusting bz4x solterra rz450e
Don't care for capacitive touch controls.
That poor paint is soooooo swirled out.
205 mile range......wow, that's pretty nifty!
...right in line with the Lexus/Toyota/Subaru thing (RZ-BZ-'terra)
For the base AWD model. 272 for the +.
@@DrivenCarReviews I was being sarcastic!
IMO, even offering a model with mileage that low is a huge misstep. It sends the wrong message!
The design is decent but their battery tech has a long way to go and I really can't justify spending 60 grand on a Nissan so that I have proper range. I would have thought at this late date and seeing they've had an EV available since 2010, their battery tech would be close to class leading. Apparently not!
@@K03sport Toyota really needs outside help with their model naming convention. That BR**** moniker may be the worst name in this century.
TOM - FACTS are 10/10 ARYIA customers Surveyed , say they would rather Trade in ARYIA for a TESLA model Y.
Yeah, yeah yeah, get your "TESTLA model why?" bullshit out of here now.
Charging overnight FROM ZERO. Who does that? Maybe try real world scenarios?
No one. That's the figure I have available.
Interesting, but not buy worthy...
61k, this will be a big fail, especially with the slow charging.
Terrible. Touch buttons are useless here in northern Canada, they simply do NOT work! Idiot Nissan. I cannot keep my gloves off to operate them when it is-40C. Fail.
Heated steering wheel is standard if that helps. Did not bring gloves to test. A fail for this Minnesota-raised boy.
TOM - Nissan PRO pilot assist is a BASIC LEVEL 1 ADAS , and cant even do Unprotected LEFT turns Chuck Cook style.
ProPilot assist is a level 2 driver assistance system like autopilot, bluecruise, supercruise, and many others.
@@CrazyWeeMonkey - Nissan wishes its ProPilot was level 2 , Factually its only LEVEL 1 .
Tesla Autopilot (FREE) is in fact LEVEL 2 and Tesla FSD beta is FULL TIME Level 3.
@@markplott4820
Nissan ProPilot, Tesla Autopilot, and Tesla FSD beta are all Level-2 driver assistance systems.
@@CrazyWeeMonkey - NOPE , Tesla FSD beta v11.3 is a FULL TIME Level 3 system that still Requires hands on wheel (for now) and MAY SOON not require Hands at all.
Tesla FSD can Drive STREETS, make Unprotected LEFT turns, Drive Grocery Store parking lots, and operate SAFELY on Dirt & Gravel roads.
FACTUALLY , Nissan PRO Pilot is ADAS Level 1 only.
Pro Pilot Assist 2.0 (important difference) is L2, like AP and FSD.
Mor hideousness from Nissan...