I'm Tech RUclipsr from Thailand. I'm glad you guys like Thailand. Hope you guys come back to visit us Thai people here again in the future. Thailand Welcome 😊💖🙏🏻
I think what's cool about the AF in the s5ii is it comes with a lot of ability to manipulate it. You can set a focus limiter, you can adjust the sensitivity as well as speed, you can resize zones, etc. Plus they came and gave you the manual focusing goodies users asked for - monochrome live view mode/punch in focus assist while filming. It's also got the gh6 focus transition tool to let you set up a focus pull and hit a button and it does it smoothly for you. What stands out to me here is these are all control points that can be exploited - and I always always prefer when engineers give the user more control over their product. It just allows you to work more creatively with your tool to figure out ways of doing things that maybe weren't even obvious at first. It's cool when an engineer says, "I have no idea why someone would want -4 speed and -4 sensitivity AF but hey let's just allow it and see what people come up with"
28mm 🙌🙌🙌 I’m considering the S5 ii or FX3 as a b-cam to the Komodo. I’m just irked they didn’t release the S5 iix… won’t come for another half year ?? How ridiculous, I don’t want to shoot in only Long GOP - should’ve just made one camera or released both at launch
It was great to listen to you guys discussing the S5II. Your dive into the Panasonic lens system was particularly helpful. Great to hear that you rate the FF f1.8 primes. I bought a G9 to dip my toe into the LUMIX world after hearing and reading lots of users expressing their deep love for their Lumix cameras. I am extremely excited about the ability to adapt FF and APSC EF lenses to the S5II with PDAF in video CAF. I hope the same will apply to future M43 PDAF cameras with speed boosters and adapters with drop in or built in ND filters! The only disappointing thing is that the LUMIX FF lenses can’t be adapted to M43. But such is the physics of mirrorless flange distance design. Great work guys!
Thank you for sharing that! The G9 is a fabulous camera. I’m really excited to try out a micro 4/3 PDAF system and hope LUMIX continues the G9 line for the next generation.
Awesome discussion guys. Always a treat when you two get together. S5ii is a really interesting camera, I’m pretty invested in Sony and Canon so I really don’t want another system however if I was starting from scratch this would be very interesting. I’m excited to see what they do with the bigger brothers to this camera, something to rival the FX3 would be great to see. As you mentioned a box version of this camera with ND would be incredible.
Not the focus of this podcast but I’ve been to Thailand 5 or 6 times each time in different places. And this is an amazing country. People are so kind as was said in the video.
So, in the Uk LUMIX are selling the S5ii with the 50mm 1.8 & the 20-60 kit lens. Currently with a £300 bonus trade in. The kit was £2090 all in. This camera has to be the best deal out there for someone wanting a hybrid camera that’s starting from fresh. Canon Sony and to large degree Nikon all make a great camera it really is hard to pick up a bad camera. I think the nuance is in the price / features trade off. The S5ii currently best bang for buck. The Sony A74 is a great option but with a kit lens you’ll need to drop around 3k you’re currently getting two lenses with the lumix and there are enough choices of budget lenses to make it work. Sony still king of lens choice if you don’t want to adapt.
Sean Robinson of Panasonic set us straight today in Lumix Live, on the shutter closed vs shutter open during a lens change. BOTH the shutter and the sensor are equally sturdy or susceptible to damage, but the shutter is more likely to be damaged if something pokes it. I guess.you can clean a fingerprint off the sensor, but not "unbend" the blades,
Interesting. Still would argue that both is a risk to damage every time you change your lens but one is far more obvious more often. I feel like I’d be willing to risk shutter damage in order to never have dust on my sensor
The long term loan thing at the very least probably gets around the massive tax burden that free equipment given in exchange for a video creates normally. That said, I'd be a bit concerned about liability with the loaner gear. If you've got a contract I hope there is a clause in there to protect you guys in the case of accidents and such. While the big camera companies don't contact me at my current viewership, I do get lighting equipment and other no-cost gear sent in that I keep, but have to limit it because of that MSRP as taxable income burden. 😥 I'm also messing around with ChatGPT. Impressive stuff! That's cool to know it does well with music related requests. Same for that visualization from a tongue sensor thing, wow!
Great points about tax! I never considered that. I’m not sure what the liability is. I’m sure they’d be fine if it were to break but I’m not sure. Keep crushing it man! Ya Ai is nuts
You guys are always forgetting about the R5C. That is the best hybrid camera currently. You have much better dynamic range even with clog3 than any Canon photo camera with oversampling over the board in video mode, and 8k 50fps if you want it! You don't have ibis so no wobble - works very very well with canon ibis lenses, much more natural than any ibis camera. And you have a full R5 photo. The only problem is battery life, that is easy to overcome. I don't know why everyone is sleeping on it
@@GHPod yes our company uses R5C, R3 and R5 with a set of RF lenses, works great for us because we can pick and choose the best combination for every photo and video project, big or small. Obviously these products are very expensive, a bit overpriced in my opinion, but they make money for us. For myself I would probably but a Lumix S5 II or a Fuji X-H2S, amazing value cameras and systems.
Yes Canon is more of a photo centric camera, Lumix is more video centric… thats why the ibis is canon is superior in photo mode…. 6 seconds of shutter speed of handheld and still sharp
Well, I know one more VERY IMPORTANT FEATURE no one is talking about... Lumix S5II and S5IIX don't have new Phase Detect AF in 1080p full frame 50,60,100 and 120 FPS but only old Contrast AF which is the biggest disappointment... So for some reason people who prefer to shoot 1080p FF in slow-mo from 50 to 120 fps they should do that with old glitchy Contrast base AF. Same for all of those who were hoping to upscale 1080p 50-120 fps to 4k - no PDAF. And taking into account it's a video-oriented hybrid camera, it looks like without a firmware update in the next several months almost perfect camera becomes garbage. I preordered S5IIX and now looking forward to the firmware update. Hope they will fix it by the time S5IIX ships. If not - will just move to another brand. I believe this is a very important factor people should know about.
@@GHPod at the 1:05 time marker, you guy’s were referring to loan process of Panasonic. Just look up “ Friday Debo bike scene” on RUclips you’ll understand 😂
I have a 5DIII and that camera is more than I’ll ever need for stills. LUMIX on the other hand offers great options for video, especially if I can use EF lenses with video CAF. I have a G9 but am tempted by the S5II but as I have a G9 will probably wait to see if there is a G10 or GX10 and both use native MFT glass and adapted EF. I think Canon is great but I also think LUMIX might be better for my needs. Can fanboys love two systems?
Both camera brands are great but i thinj if u already have a canon R5 or R6/ii or R3 there is no need to switch really haha except u bore already with great quality camera
So you don’t have problem with AI taking over creativity to the extent that we won’t know what is created by people anymore, you actually think that’s progress? The blessing can become a curse if wisdom doesn’t know the difference.
Appreciate y’all! Dave we will meet this year, let’s make it happen. And Tyler is the godfather of color. Always loved his consistency in aesthetic.
I'm Tech RUclipsr from Thailand. I'm glad you guys like Thailand. Hope you guys come back to visit us Thai people here again in the future. Thailand Welcome 😊💖🙏🏻
Awesome dude! Seems like a beautiful country!
I think what's cool about the AF in the s5ii is it comes with a lot of ability to manipulate it. You can set a focus limiter, you can adjust the sensitivity as well as speed, you can resize zones, etc. Plus they came and gave you the manual focusing goodies users asked for - monochrome live view mode/punch in focus assist while filming. It's also got the gh6 focus transition tool to let you set up a focus pull and hit a button and it does it smoothly for you.
What stands out to me here is these are all control points that can be exploited - and I always always prefer when engineers give the user more control over their product. It just allows you to work more creatively with your tool to figure out ways of doing things that maybe weren't even obvious at first. It's cool when an engineer says, "I have no idea why someone would want -4 speed and -4 sensitivity AF but hey let's just allow it and see what people come up with"
Great points! I need to play with focus limiter!
Great video! One question: Does the awesome IBIS also work with FullHD at 120 fps? Thanks for your help!
Dave just found your podcast. Love it. Wow you snagged just about every Tuber I follow.
Thanks Ted! Glad you found us! :)
Another great podcast featuring Tyler. Really enjoying these.
Tyler Stalman is the best. Always love having him on!
28mm 🙌🙌🙌
I’m considering the S5 ii or FX3 as a b-cam to the Komodo. I’m just irked they didn’t release the S5 iix… won’t come for another half year ?? How ridiculous, I don’t want to shoot in only Long GOP - should’ve just made one camera or released both at launch
Honestly the S5II is fantastic as is! But if you must have the extra features just stay patient! What is it about the S5IIX you feel you need?
Apologies in advance for the soundboard 😂
You’re crazy.
I use Cinematch with Resolve. I match all different cameras together all the time. It’s definitely a must if you’re matching different log profiles.
I’ve never really fully used cinematch !
Enjoyed the episode featuring Tyler! But my biggest ask, will this ever be a Spotify Video Podcast?
I’ll look into it! Last time I checked it wasn’t available to normal creators. But I’ll check! Thanks for the reminder.
It was great to listen to you guys discussing the S5II. Your dive into the Panasonic lens system was particularly helpful. Great to hear that you rate the FF f1.8 primes.
I bought a G9 to dip my toe into the LUMIX world after hearing and reading lots of users expressing their deep love for their Lumix cameras.
I am extremely excited about the ability to adapt FF and APSC EF lenses to the S5II with PDAF in video CAF. I hope the same will apply to future M43 PDAF cameras with speed boosters and adapters with drop in or built in ND filters!
The only disappointing thing is that the LUMIX FF lenses can’t be adapted to M43. But such is the physics of mirrorless flange distance design.
Great work guys!
Thank you for sharing that! The G9 is a fabulous camera. I’m really excited to try out a micro 4/3 PDAF system and hope LUMIX continues the G9 line for the next generation.
How is G9? Honest opinion lol I can get this brand new $800 Australian. 540 US
Awesome discussion guys. Always a treat when you two get together.
S5ii is a really interesting camera, I’m pretty invested in Sony and Canon so I really don’t want another system however if I was starting from scratch this would be very interesting.
I’m excited to see what they do with the bigger brothers to this camera, something to rival the FX3 would be great to see.
As you mentioned a box version of this camera with ND would be incredible.
Totally! Yeah, there’s no reason to switch when you already have a solid setup!
I've read that the physical properties of L mount precludes having built in NDs. I don't know if that's true but I hope not.
Not the focus of this podcast but I’ve been to Thailand 5 or 6 times each time in different places. And this is an amazing country. People are so kind as was said in the video.
Awesome to hear! I need to go visit!
I am happy that Panasonic is releasing such an appealing camera. More options are always better for us.
Absolutely!
So, in the Uk LUMIX are selling the S5ii with the 50mm 1.8 & the 20-60 kit lens. Currently with a £300 bonus trade in. The kit was £2090 all in. This camera has to be the best deal out there for someone wanting a hybrid camera that’s starting from fresh. Canon Sony and to large degree Nikon all make a great camera it really is hard to pick up a bad camera. I think the nuance is in the price / features trade off. The S5ii currently best bang for buck. The Sony A74 is a great option but with a kit lens you’ll need to drop around 3k you’re currently getting two lenses with the lumix and there are enough choices of budget lenses to make it work. Sony still king of lens choice if you don’t want to adapt.
Sean Robinson of Panasonic set us straight today in Lumix Live, on the shutter closed vs shutter open during a lens change. BOTH the shutter and the sensor are equally sturdy or susceptible to damage, but the shutter is more likely to be damaged if something pokes it. I guess.you can clean a fingerprint off the sensor, but not "unbend" the blades,
Interesting. Still would argue that both is a risk to damage every time you change your lens but one is far more obvious more often. I feel like I’d be willing to risk shutter damage in order to never have dust on my sensor
Doesn't the C70 have face only AF where after it detects and focuses on a face it won't jump the the back or front?
Yes correct. That’s a feature both tyler and I are wanting to see put in the LUMIX hopefully!
Is it true that in FHD the camera disables the PDAF and reverts baco to Contrast and DFD like the original s5?
Nope! Full phase detect in all modes.
Can we just take a moment to acknowledge that Stalman has the best talking head on all of youtube 🥇
100%
I’ve thought about switching to Panasonic but I’m in the aps-c Sony. Or might just grab the fx30 haha.
Fx30 is solid!
Really enjoyed this video, I hope Lumix is listening. I hope Sony is listening too!
Panasonic has some of the best creator focused support so I hope they hear our suggestions and apply them to future releases!
The long term loan thing at the very least probably gets around the massive tax burden that free equipment given in exchange for a video creates normally. That said, I'd be a bit concerned about liability with the loaner gear. If you've got a contract I hope there is a clause in there to protect you guys in the case of accidents and such.
While the big camera companies don't contact me at my current viewership, I do get lighting equipment and other no-cost gear sent in that I keep, but have to limit it because of that MSRP as taxable income burden. 😥
I'm also messing around with ChatGPT. Impressive stuff! That's cool to know it does well with music related requests. Same for that visualization from a tongue sensor thing, wow!
Great points about tax! I never considered that. I’m not sure what the liability is. I’m sure they’d be fine if it were to break but I’m not sure. Keep crushing it man!
Ya Ai is nuts
You guys are always forgetting about the R5C. That is the best hybrid camera currently. You have much better dynamic range even with clog3 than any Canon photo camera with oversampling over the board in video mode, and 8k 50fps if you want it! You don't have ibis so no wobble - works very very well with canon ibis lenses, much more natural than any ibis camera. And you have a full R5 photo. The only problem is battery life, that is easy to overcome. I don't know why everyone is sleeping on it
I think we mentioned it towards the end. It’s a killer camera for sure! Do you own one?
@@GHPod yes our company uses R5C, R3 and R5 with a set of RF lenses, works great for us because we can pick and choose the best combination for every photo and video project, big or small. Obviously these products are very expensive, a bit overpriced in my opinion, but they make money for us. For myself I would probably but a Lumix S5 II or a Fuji X-H2S, amazing value cameras and systems.
enjoying from philippines, usa seems exotic to me.
I’m grateful to be from this country but we have much to learn. The Philippines is a beautiful country!
Yes Canon is more of a photo centric camera, Lumix is more video centric… thats why the ibis is canon is superior in photo mode…. 6 seconds of shutter speed of handheld and still sharp
Has Panasonic pulled it’s ass out of the fire?
I think so!
Well, I know one more VERY IMPORTANT FEATURE no one is talking about... Lumix S5II and S5IIX don't have new Phase Detect AF in 1080p full frame 50,60,100 and 120 FPS but only old Contrast AF which is the biggest disappointment... So for some reason people who prefer to shoot 1080p FF in slow-mo from 50 to 120 fps they should do that with old glitchy Contrast base AF. Same for all of those who were hoping to upscale 1080p 50-120 fps to 4k - no PDAF. And taking into account it's a video-oriented hybrid camera, it looks like without a firmware update in the next several months almost perfect camera becomes garbage. I preordered S5IIX and now looking forward to the firmware update. Hope they will fix it by the time S5IIX ships. If not - will just move to another brand. I believe this is a very important factor people should know about.
It’s like Red’s and Debo’s bike
What do you mean?
@@GHPod at the 1:05 time marker, you guy’s were referring to loan process of Panasonic. Just look up “ Friday Debo bike scene” on RUclips you’ll understand 😂
Got ya! Haha. Didn’t understand the reference lol
S5ii is a perfect camera for vloggers and hobbies, not for Pro photographers.
I’m a fan of the photos, but if it’s all you do there are better options
what do you guys feel is missing for pros? features that are currently only in the S1* bodies ?
Canon users will not switch.
Canon is Canon, maybe some Sony fanboys will do.
@@williebravousa Those who switch are not fanboys. Those who never switch, may be fanboys.
True
I have a 5DIII and that camera is more than I’ll ever need for stills. LUMIX on the other hand offers great options for video, especially if I can use EF lenses with video CAF. I have a G9 but am tempted by the S5II but as I have a G9 will probably wait to see if there is
a G10 or GX10 and both use native MFT glass and adapted EF. I think Canon is great but I also think LUMIX might be better for my needs.
Can fanboys love two systems?
Both camera brands are great but i thinj if u already have a canon R5 or R6/ii or R3 there is no need to switch really haha except u bore already with great quality camera
Sony is scientific.
Fuji is artful.
Nikon is constrasty.
Canon is lively.
Lumix is cinematic.
Put that on a T-shirt
So you don’t have problem with AI taking over creativity to the extent that we won’t know what is created by people anymore, you actually think that’s progress? The blessing can become a curse if wisdom doesn’t know the difference.
It’s a loan for income tax purposes.
Sony's autofocus does it for me.
Oh yea. It’s the best on the market.
No one switching from Sony to Panasonic.
Probably not. But maybe canon!