150 year young ELR project
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- Опубликовано: 30 мар 2024
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Rifle:
Barnard Lapua action (target) trigger and 60moa rail
K.S. Arms 30" 1: 10 twist straight 1.25" barrel
Custom Chassis
Nightforce 5-25x56 SFP scope
Tacom HQ Charlie Tarac set to 300moa (Elevation Adder) Delta Tarac
ERA-TAC adjustable elevation scope base
4AW Muzzle brake, Bipod system, Bagrider and Forward Optic Mount
Total weight approx 24 lbs (11kgs)
Ammo: handloaded 575grn Cutting Edge Laser .458cal bullets at 2390fps
TORIC UHD 27-55X80 Angled Spotting Scope
4AW spotting scope stand
4AW shooting mats
Conditions
55°F Temp
65% Humidity
28.8 inHg
1000' above sea level
average 10 mph wind from 6 o'clock
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Modernizing old stuff, and retro futurism are always fascinating.
Cheers Man
I put in a Permit to Acquire for a used Falling Block black powder in 38-55/.375 Big Bore.Its was registered simply as a .375.Waited....waited....waited,I finally rang why the hold up.After much to and fro I was asked if it was a Cheytec,the thought being I was trying to sneak a prohibited cartridge in .I dig what you do and its not the inner Fudd coming out but I can see the wheels turning in some quarters .Cheers
It’s funny when you mentioned black powder, I’d said to myself “ah, Mark andSam’s Mortar channel”, and then you mentioned artillery…😂😂😂🚀🚀🚀
Yep, Cheers Jay
Mate, your knowledge and marksmanship is incredible. When I talk guns to non gun people I sound like a genius, when I listen to you I realise I know bugger all about “guns”
Lol, Thanks Jordan, Cheers
Interesting to see the use of an old style cartridge integrated with new equipment. Thanks for these.
Cheers Man
Necessity is mother of invention!!!!!! You needed it and you designed and built it. Great information, great shooting team. Happy Easter 22's were awesome as well....
Thanks Paul, Cheers Man
Excellent ballistics information mate, thanks.
Thanks Mike
It's pretty incredible what you can do with the old sharps cartridge. Taking an old cartridge utilizing modern components and pushing the envelope. I like it! I think an ELR project utilizing one of these new factory muzzeloaders in .40 cal would be a cool project either the Knight Preregrine or CVA paramount. It would be cool to see how far you can push one.
Cheers
great stuff Mark & Sam. 400 MOA is crazy, just to get so close to the target at that range is phenomenal. Good work!
Thanks Johnny, Cheers Man
Seriously- I’ve complimented both of you on many occasions but I have to say the Skillsets you have are amazing. To be proficient in two or even three areas says a lot about a person, but you have to be proficient to the point of expertise in seven areas that I can tell. Amazing. Amazing individual skills and teamwork.
Thank you for your kind words man, Cheers and all the best
Fun fact for you Mark, heard you say “snafu” during this clip. Snafu has it’s origins in WW2, it is an acronym for Situation Normal All F Up. I have been following you and Sam for awhile now, have enjoyed your channel a lot and learned much. Thanks.
Thanks Howard, glad you liked, Cheers
Amazing little project, at a very high degree of difficulty. Well done Guy's.
Thanks Trev, Cheers man
Into the nitty gritty, just the way I like it! Thank you guys for putting this all together.
Thanks Man
Thanks for the videos. Happy Easter!
Happy Easter, Cheers Stephen
Thanks for video. Absolutely amazing!
Thanks Mike, Cheers
Fantastic work Mark and Sam. Keep going.
Cheers Bob, thanks
Insane shooting skills and very detail brake-down
Thanks Man, Cheers
Love seeing the old cartridges doing some work. Fantastic video!
cheers Mike
Hats off. Really impressive stuff!
Thanks Donald
Great stuff; thank you, both.
Thanks David
Thank you for your time and effort. This is awsome!
thanks Carl
Almost 500k subs 👏🏻🤩
Holy sheeet...at Easter!
👍👍, Cheers Man
I am always amazed by how long it takes the bullet to reach the target. Enjoyable presentation. I will be watching more of your content. Thanks.
Thanks Aury, Cheers
Thanks, Mark. I find this sort of thing very interesting. Love the way you explain what and how you do your thing. Little "mistakes" are going to happen. The issue is what to do to correct them. Life is full of mistakes and part of the fun is fixing them.
Thanks Dave, Cheers Man
awesome, i learn so much ...greatly appreciate you both
Thanks Jack, Cheers
Impressive results for direct fire from a legacy artillery round!😜
Most emblematic of of the proper application of rifle smithing and ELR fundamentals.
Thanks for sharing and cheers.
Thanks you George, Cheers
You are most impressive Mark! Keep them coming.
Thanks Jason, Cheers
As a fan of the big old rimmed cartridges, and a fan of efficient, long bullets, I loved this! Great experiments, and amazing shooting!
Thanks Jason, Cheers
This is fascinating. Thank you.
Cheers
Wow!!!! Your amount of knowledge just blows me away!!! When I look at my rifles, I just hear this little voice saying, "...You know nothing John Snow..." I'm gonna have to go back to the beginning and start watching your videos again. 😀
Lol, thanks John, Cheers man
Fantastic work. With a 10 second travel time any consistency is a hope and prayer unless you can somehow get real time atmospheric info from shot to shot.
Cheers
First time seeing your content. Wow! I enjoyed it
Awesome, Cheers Scott
Nice one! Alway dreamed of building a 45/120, at least Paul hasn’t banned everything.
Cheers
Very impressive!! I really enjoy your variety of content.
Thanks Bobby
WOW, Brilliant. Cheers from 🇺🇸
Thanks Bob
Now that's what I call a far poke when you're going for a target at 3800 yards. Very impressive.
Thanks James, Cheers
Fantastic testing!!! 🐕
Thanks Man, Cheers
Legend...it's so satisfying to fiddle. I have made my old 8mm mauser do fantastic things....old but not cold
Awesome, thanks man, Cheers
Excellent methodical work! I used to shoot with Peter Barnard and Malcolm Morrison back in the day and have fitted up many Barnard actions. Their stuff always was excellent and clearly on to extraordinary things now. The old-timers used to shoot prodigious distances with the big 45’s but this is really something else.
Subscribed!👍🏻
Thanks Man, glad you liked, Cheers
I loved the series you did with the modernized 45-70. This should be interesting!
Thanks Matt
Very interesting. Thanks for the vid. Jim Bell (Australia)
Cheers
Thats a heck of a build there! Beautiful rifle, i thought i liked to shoot distance, but y'all take the cake! Great shootin as well as ballistic details, cheers from West Texas fellas!
Thanks Adam, Cheers Man
I'm in total agreement. People are always looking for the latest and greatest whiz bang product. But if we apply our new knowledge with older products we can achieve some really great things. And I like the idea of bringing those so called old or obseleate cartridges into modern times and applications. Great project, cool gun and cartridge combo👍👍👍👍😎😎😎
Thanks Rob, Cheers Man, all the best.
Interesting you should mention that. A few years ago I inherited a Thompson Center Contender pistol that I had no interest in shooting. Because it's so easy to change everything, I rebuilt it as a carbine with two easy to swap barrels: One in .22 Long Rifle, and one in 7-30 Waters because that's about the most pressure you can throw at a Contender frame. The 7-30 Waters is an interesting take on an ancient cartridge, being simply a 30-30 Winchester necked down to 7mm. It behaves almost exactly like a 7-08 Remington loaded a bit light. Both are very accurate, with Leupold glass.
@tarmaque is that the difference between the encore and the contender? The pressure the frame can withstand?
@@michaeldowling4160 Pretty much. The Encore can accept up to .300 Win Mag. There are some other details that are different as well, but that's the primary reason it was made. You can get a Contender in 45-70, but that's a low pressure cartridge as well.
Always good. Expert trigger man. Beautiful rifles. Camera girl =10.
Cheers Sandy
Great content thanks for sharing
Thanks John
Great lot of fun with an old cartridge!!
Yep, thanks Loren, cheers
These projects are a lot of fun. I would like to do something similar with a 22 Hornet for plinking. I’d like to see the biggest bullet I can push out of it.
Cheers
My favorite gun smith is a brilliant scientist. Go figure. Thanks M&S After work.
Lol, Cheers Man, thanks
Breaking down so many pre-conceived ideas and 'facts' quoted as gospel by keyboard marksmen. Brilliant.
Special mention to your shooting partner. Very supportive, attentive and accurate in calling the shots. Everyone needs someone like that behind them if they want to progress not just in shooting but in life too.
Thanks Man, Cheers
Very cool guys!😮❤❤❤
Thanks Chris
Just too cool👍🏻
Cheers Jim
Amazing stuff! These "needler" loads (long, straight-walled cases with long, high-BC bullets) are going to make a comeback with good experimentation like this, & not just for single shot ELR!!
Cheers Man
15:25 impact just behind the wind indicator, blink and you'll miss it. Good stuff, always interesting to see what you guys are up to.
Yep, lol, Cheers
Nice!
Cheers
Mark and Sam you guys always amaze me. The 45/70 at 1100 yards with a big wind is impressive. I'm always jealous of how little your rifle setups move when shot. I've watched you explain your setups ,there is a lot put into it. My chassis setup still bounces up .I haven't bought one of your brakes or sleds yet...I'm getting kinda long in the tooth to keep at it as much as I used to.
Thanks Dave, Cheers man
Nicely done. Some would say,with a 45/120 you'd be throwing rocks at the moon. But you have proven it can be done. Nice. Carry on!
Thanks Man, Cheers
just watched a clip with a 50-110wcf yesterday thinking it would be great too see you shoot the 45-120!
I'd be keen to see some (slower) black powder loads tested at distance.
Thanks for spoiling us with these fantastic videos!!
Thanks Man, Cheers
Спасибо!
Cheers
A good video😊👍🏻👍🏻
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Without the one hole shot none of us would be here the perfect shot
Cheers Gaz
Amazing Results With That Last long Thin Ogive Projectile Mark & Katherine 😀😇😊 Old School Cartridge Becomes New School Again 😀
Yep, Cheers Chris
Mark, the look of the rifle reminds me of the Tubbs rifle here in the states.
Happy Easter to you and your family.
Love the rifle.
Thanks Richard
The brass and barrel life is probably pretty good with that cartidge ;)
Cheers
Fabulous, that round is sexy. Long rage .505 Gibbs. You are spoiling us Mark and Sam.
Thanks Paul
Yes!
Cheers
The right barrel length and twist ratio can do wonders for these old calibers. It's easier to make a new gun, than it is to make a brand new bullet and gun to go with it.
Cheers
u r doing just fine
Cheers
Matthew Quigley would approve
Lol, Cheers
Thanks for pointing out that new cartridges are mostly about selling more stuff. Projectile development is the real story.
Thanks Paul, Cheers
Projectiles and the rifle itself.
This is interesting to me, a BPCR shooter, because many in the American BPCR community refer to this cartridge as the "45 why bother?". The sweet spot for BPCR shooters seems to be the .45/90 and .45/110. Personally I get the best results with the 535 grain postell bullets, which is what I think you were trying to remember. The Lyman part number for the mould is "457123". The boys at the range like to flex paper patched bullets, and I have gone down that rabbit hole with nice results, but honestly the Postells work great and a WAY lower effort. :)
Yes great for normal Sharps rifle and set up, we do the same with our sharps, all on video btw, but of course, not the same distance or accuracy, Cheers
Loved this video, interesting as heck and great information. Modern shooters for a large part, still think old designs, old guns and black powder mean far less accuracy. Are they ever wrong!
Agreed, Cheers Man
Great work guys 👍👍
Cheers Adrian
Goes to show, these old cartridges are a lot more capable than people believe. Though I think a lot of that's because they're used to shooting them out of platforms that aren't designed to reach out that far.
Thanks Man
Fascinating. I didn’t realize you personally did so much to this rifle let alone bullet development. All I normally see is you both making incredible shots at incredible distances. What I am curious about is the range that you shoot at. Is this state land? How do you prevent others from accidentally crossing into your path? Are there permissions you have?
Thanks Jargo. Private property. Special permission. They are friends of ours. It is a working farm and full knowledge of owner so noone is working when we are out there. Cheers
Good😊
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Very impressive like a lot of the things you do. I'm not sure if you can call it a 150 year old cartridge after you use primers, powders, bullet and barrel technology that wasn't in existence when the cartridge came into use but it's still a cool project and impressive as hell to get on plate at those distances. What about filling the chamber gouge with some epoxy? You could leave a lubed fireformed case in the chamber to keep the shape and then sand/polish if necessary? Look forward to the 2 mile hits that I know are going to come.
Thanks Man, not something we've tried, Cheers
Impressive as always. Would that be the 458 cal 575 bullet? I just got in their 240 grain 30 cal lazers im going to try in my RUM and try and make a video
Yep, Cheers Tim
That's a lot of swing in the steel
Lol, Cheers
I guess I realized the 45-70 is an older rifle cartridge perhaps before they started to neck them down and shorten the brass casing, but it looks more like a pistol cartridge. Seeing the 45-120 cartridge with the long pointy bullet more like modern rifle cartridges in the thumbnail really threw me for a loop, wasn't sure I was looking at a bullet and not a missile lol.
Lol, Cheers Man
Great to see the evolution of your project and your learnings. I have just started reloading 357 mag cartridges for a rifle and was looking to experiment pushing this round to 300+ yards (our range’s maximum distance). Do you have any insights or have you experimented pushing a pistol calibre cartridge to extended ranges? Thanks for the video.
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@@markandsamafterwork Thanks. Appreciated.
Crazy that the straight wall cartridge is punching holes in that giant plate like that. Didnt think straight wall cartridges had enough energy out that far
Thanks Man
I was wondering what/how the stuff infront the scope worked. Thats wild!
Thanks Man
i had an enfeild in 308 that had a scratch in the chamber that stuck the bolt just like yours is doing..i took some worn out 3k grit sand paper and took the edges of the scratch and it worked! it never stuck again.
Thanks Man
3800 yards 😮 mother of god
Lol, Cheers
Won’t be long, and Sam will need something like the Hubble Space Telescope to spot for you, pal. Lolol
Lol, Cheers Man
i christened the modern loads of the 45/120 as the 45/120 nitro - built into enfield 1914 actions about 11 years ago - you can see it on ammo guide
Awesome Jeff, Cheers
17:13 almost sounded like you were done and wanted to go back to the shop. Good partners that encourage us to push through are blessings.
In a project I have, I have to lube the cases with some loads or they don't extract. The pressures are way off in "danger" territory, the standard lower pressure rounds don't have issues. Not saying yours were high pressure (you said rhey weren't) but I'm wondering if a little lanolin or other light oil film on the brass is a potential remedy for you like it is for me.
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Would be nice to see table review of actual cartridge and comparison with others, in this video
2380fps with a 575grn with a 0.85 G1 BC projectile, you can do your own, lol, Cheers
I was viewer .243
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It'd be cool to see this done with Nitro Express or other classic big game rifles
Cheers
What does felt recoil feel like?
A short sharp jab to the shoulder, a thump or more of a lunge?
About as it looks, heavy thump, not for everyone, Cheers
@@markandsamafterwork
Nice!
It appears to be a caliber of the long ass variety
Lol
You mentioned you needed to make "minor adjustments" to make the extractor work.. I am assuming you turned down the case rim slightly? Thickness or diameter? I doubt you modified the bolt.... cool stuff, really like watching all your experiments, I barely have time to shoot my "normal" stuff ;)
Yep, thanks Mike
Just out of curiosity. I'm sure you don't shoot out your barrels so what do you do when you change from in this case 300 norma to the 45-120? Do you sell the barrels off or just leave them in the safe?
We change barrels over for different shoots we do, Cheers
Been watching to much Quigley! (if there is such a thing)
Lol
Just curious on what the twist rate is on the barrel.? It is definitely stabilizing them long bullets well
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Thinking if you were to have an offset mount to the scope. Instead of having the scope on top of you moved it a few inches to the left with a new mount.
Adding the periscope and attachments could be adding additional variables.
I’m also thinking that maybe calculating your next shot could be possible instead of guessing.
Maybe 375H&H or a case with taper might help with jams? Interesting.
Not on the same page dude, but thanks for the comment, Cheers
I've been thinking the same. A mechanical solution to the same issue that the side shift telescope is an optical solution for. 1.5" or 40mm horizontal offset on the scope base would do the same thing as the Charlie Delta, and then you can run the adjustable bases or the March scopes without the barrel affecting the effectiveness of those options.
A fair way off topic but do you have "Bacon and Egg Bush" on your hilltops there? When I was over for a seeding season, the landowner pointed the plant out to me and explained that it was dangerous to his sheep so typically the only places that it still existed on his place was the fenced off areas on hilltops that he either couldn't do much with anyway or they were conservation offsets. Cheers
Not seen them their, but probably around the area.
Where do you get your 45-120 brass? I’ve been struggling to find it
We had it for a few years, from Northern Shooting Supplies
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Thanks Andrey
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Cheers Peter