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DIY Spray Foam Kit I Previously Used: amzn.to/3Pk8KS6
After watching you and others DIY this stuff
I see no benefit in doing this stuff yourself
Thanks for sharing 👍
That spray man takes pride in his work. That’s hard to find nowadays
The technique of spraying a patch on the ceiling then to pull it down and use it as a barrier is brilliant.
@@davepost7675 …the foam patch being pulled off the substrate when fresh/hot is what we did a lot of to close in rafter ends that did not have backups in a pinch, otherwise we pre did the backups. When something is missed the patch/pull works
You are such a joy to listen to. The way the explanations are handled are special, Nathan, Start a class on being southern polite.
It’s so impressive to watch the insulation being installed.
I’m sure you will enjoy this for many years and will be more healthier for you.
Nice work!!
It's amazing how much that stuff expands.
what a process. Loved the trick he used to seal the eaves between the rafters
Thanks Nathan for showing the foam insulation video that really makes big difference on temperature of your shop .
That spray foam process is almost hypnotic! Couldn’t get enough!
Nathan, good decision to have them install the foam insulation above the shop. You also will notice difference for heating and cooling. Great shop for generations.
Prep is great 👍 the installation is top notch! That is fantastic!
Great job Nathan, very well installed and cleaned up after and a reasonable price too. Now when you get everything put back together and get busy in there then you'll be happy too. Stay safe and keep up the great videos. Fred.
There is something so satisfying about watching this process...
It warms my heart.
Nathan it sounds like you got a good deal. We just had our house done and it really makes a difference. Cool video. 👍❤️
Very satisfying to watch.
I had them spray my wood working shop 50x60 side walls and ceiling plus heated floors with central air and friend it makes it alot more enjoyable to work in there.
cleanest foam trailer Ive ever seen. Easy to see theses guys care about their work.
Checked out their address on Google earth .they’re not a fly by night outfit by any means…
That's one way to look at a company, see if the rig is messed up, but also they might have just bought it.
That will make a world of difference for your Mr. Cool. I put closed cell in my shop ceiling and in the walls before I started building it out. Even without the mini split, It was evident how much the improvement was.
Bill
Nice 👍
I’m just south of you, I too had a professional (out of Knoxville), to spray ‘closed cell’, on all exterior walls (I removed the sheetrock). Also the open-beam ceiling in the master bedroom. Wow, what a difference! Best investment I’ve made, to our house…..
It’s a real skill and it looks great
Had this done when I finished second story , been 4 years now the best thing I could have ever done
Amazing how quickly it dries yet is malleable enough to remove from overhead and placed on the backside of the fascia. The technology is INCREDIBLE.
Thanks for the great video!
Yes, exactly
That’s so cool I can watch your videos all day long nice job.
Thanks 👍
I've done roofing with polyurethane spray foam and elastomeric coatings. It's like putting down a seamless roof. Great stuff.
I do spray foam for a living and always advise customers that open cell on an exterior substrate is a very bad idea. In the event something happens to the structure that would allow water infiltration the open cell foam will absorb that water where closed cell will not absorb water
Exactly. A roof leak, the open cell will absorb water like sponge and potentially overload the roof structure to the point of failure. Additionally, moistened closed cell could become a medium for mold growth.
@@MASTER3RDEYE modern closed cell does not promote mold growth
Very educational thanks.
Also ran a foam company and confirm you are absolutely correct
question... say you have closed cell on roof or exterior and a nail gets poked through and then removed.. for whatever reason.... will the closed cell seal that leak if water got in?
Worked on the Space Shuttle External Fuel Tank Project. It was completely sprayed in close cell foam on the exterior. I think the stuff is a fantastic material to use for insulation in buildings. Very much enjoy this channel. My cousins had an ancient belt driven circular saw mill up in Maine. The whole thing collapsed one winter due to wet and heavy snow.
That’s sad.
I HOPE THEY RECOVERED. THANKS FOR SHARING.🇺🇲👍🏻
@@DRAGNET-pn5vf It was old, mortise and tenon and pegs. It was actually powered by a Model T engine and belts. Never did hear what they might have done but they only ran it in summer. They were shipbuilders, like my dad.
That's interesting. I didn't know that foam was used on the space shuttle. I'm wondering if NASA developed it. I live in the southeast so snow load isn't a problem. Sorry about your cousin's sawmill roof. Certainly get some big snow times up in the northern parts of the country.
It's always enjoyable to watch craftsmen at work. Your shop will definitely be more comfortable to work in. And the foam helps to deaden sound as well. Good choice, Mr. Elliot.
Agreed 100%
Fascinating! I was wondering how they were going to do the ends of the joist bays. What a clever solution. I have to look into this for my house - it's from the 1940's and the attic is uninsulated. I think it's time.
Wow that stuff expands like crazy. Loved how he closed off the eves.
So satisfying to watch
I thoroughly enjoy your channel and yes that is a great value
Awesome! Thank you!
Will you cover the foam to hide the foam? That stuff is amazing. I love to do it yourself with a lot stuff. BUT sometimes the time saved, the knowledge of experts, the experience they have and the muscle energy saved just makes better sense. Again Thanks.
Very cool! Thanks for sharing all of this with us. I need to put up some insulation myself and this is very helpful. :)
That's a reasonable price in my opinion. I'm definitely going to use those guys when I'm ready, very professional. They're in my neck of the woods, so to speak lol. Thanks for the video!
That process was just crazy😛but watching it was amazing!!
Glad you liked it!!
Nathan it looks Great, I have heard people say that it is not good for you but not found any proof. Keep up the Great video's Please
I had the same thing done at my old place. 20x40 at 12' up. Prices were all over the place. Think I paid $1,600 at the time and was happy to do it. After a lot of looking, you can't do it yourself cheaper. You could heat that shop with a match just about. I miss that shop!
I would love to have my new place foamed.
You named two good reasons to hire the professional guys. The number three reason, for me would be time! I'm sure I would have been able to do it probably four or five hours more than they did! Time is money! God bless!
Number 4 reason is that you won’t have visits to the chiropractor for neck pain. I was impressed at how fast the foam spraying was. The value was in the time spent in prep work of covering things with plastic and cleaning afterward.
That's a nice job I like that I'll catch you on the next one
This Spray Tech did a Absolutely Beautiful Job 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼😍
I think so too!
I love to watch people who know what they are doing
Well done Nathan it’s done now and you can reap the benefits of their knowledge and skills. By the way it reminded me of a Tsunami working it’s way across the ceiling! 🌊🌊🌊
Congratulations. Thanks for sharing. Very interesting!
Thanks for watching!
The other reason to hire the pros for just about anything, is the speed at which they can finish the job. I suspect that job didn't take more than a half day to complete.
Great video! Knew of the process but never saw it applied Thanks
You bet!
Fantastic deal!
Excellent price. You can hear the difference. No reverb of sound
This spray foam is so satisfying😀
Recently had my 18x40 shop sprayed. You got a heck of a good deal.
open cell does not have vapor barrier properties, but closed cell should have a higher R value per inch and provide vapor barrier characteristics.
Was that a mr kool air cond/split I saw in your shop prior to the installation? Saw another you tuber put in one 2 weeks ago and they love it. Just being snoopy wondering if it was one and is it installed yet? I need one and the 36,000 unit is what I’m thinking about. Love your videos and now have my wife watching also.
The did a Excellent Job for you!!!
Great decision to use open cell on the roof and to have a pro installer do it. You had said, open cell at your application level was equivalent to R19, I believe. There is an additional R value to using spray foam that is hard to verify but I have seen over time as an HVAC contractor. My experience has been; "Real R value" is much higher; I believe it to be R 30 or better because of the UV rejection with the encapsulated roof or better yet the whole structure. I like to see that you built your shop with old school sawed lumber and covered it with new day foam "-)
I always found this a fascinating technology. Better living through chemistry!
Oh I see your a festool man, best tools ever built in my opinion
A galvanized steel spring curry horse comb works well to scrape off any high spots on your ceiling joists. If you plan on paneling in the future.
I was wondering about how to do that. I was thinking about a huge wire cheese slicer. LOL.
Looks good.
Good stuff. When I did my shop, a local company quoted me cheaper for 3-1/2" closed cell walls and 5" open cell ceiling than I could have actually bought the diy kits for. I was instantly sold. 2 years later still no regrets.
Good stuff!
I had a professional company spray the purple closed cell around the sill plate of my house using the full-sized drums you saw here. Initially, they were going to use kits but after seeing the size of the job called in their foam truck & applied closed cell purple foam. They said it was much cheaper, faster & did a better job than the kits. Watched many videos on the small kits & it looks tedious & nowhere as nice as professionally installed foam.
WOW!! impressive!!
That's is cool how that stuff works
I was thinking while you did the first batch that it might have been better to get the professional grade and have it sprayed by the professional crews. I’ve done some of my own like you did and it worked ok but it’s not the same by any stretch of the imagination. I’ve had contractors do lots of it on pipeline construction for ditch-bottom support on tie-ins at bores under roads etc. That stuff is amazing and is dry to touch within seconds. It provides support under the pipe so when it’s backfilled the weight of the dirt doesn’t put strain on the pipe.
If you make more or the same doing your work . don't stop your work to do theirs. As pros they will do it faster and usually better . I've tried the DIY in lots of projects. The projects were good but it took 4 times as long . Seen a dry wall taper and Mudder make magic one day the craftsmanship was a show of wonder . WOW
This is a good argument if, two things, you have unlimited work opportunities, AND you like doing your professional work enough to do it all the time, oh and one more thing I forgot, if you do your work and get paid you pay taxes on that and then have less money with which to pay them. If you DIY the tax man gets left out of the game. Lastly its not even 50% of the time that the guy I hire does better work than I do, at anything. They are there to get in and out as fast as possible.
Looks like they did a terrific job. Are you lining the ceilings and walls to encapsulate the insulation? Thanks as always for the video.
It would be a good idea. I think it either needs a fire resistant coating or some sort of paneling/drywall to be up to code in a house. Not sure if that applies in a workshop.
Very nice. Just wondered, if you were going to insulate the area behind the dust collector?
hi there that was interesting thanks for showing it , john
My gosh man that stuff is AMAZING and well worth the $$$$$$ money.....Thanks Nathan 🙏👍
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😊nice nice that's a lot of r value 😊👍👍👍👍
Very!
Was Wonderin’ how they’d fill Those daylight gaps in the soffit areas .. Great the way they can manufacture a sheet then stuffit in the Gap and use it as a base to go right over…so many ways to play with that stuff….
So if your happy then Job Well Done.😎🤠😄👍
That was interesting! Looked like some kind of alien growth 😂
Great video. A couple questions please? Is there a structural concern with a spray foam? Some people told me that it can hinder the expansion and retraction of the wooden structure possibly damaging it. Second, do you recommend to put in an air chamber before spraying it?
Thanks for saying how much I have wondered . 16:13
Thanks for the video! Going to do this on my cabin, on bedrooms... very similar ceiling/roof situation! But I would love to see how they trimmed it off the rafters and evened out high spots (low spots, I suppose) in case you want to install a ceiling.
Great suggestion!
@@OutoftheWoods0623it was more of a question, not a suggestion
Ur Tools an isolation are so different....but very interesting..
that' was a great price, I'm in northwest Indiana and i have a room 30 x 15 and was told it would cost $7000
Oh that worked great
Awesome!
Thanks!
One of the differences between closed and open foam is , close cell foam doesn't absorb water\moisture (thing camping sleeping pad ) where open does absorb moisture\water (thing couch cushions ) The other difference is density . Closed is denser\firmer . I'm guessing the properties between these spray in foams are similar though, I'm not a RUclips content provider LOL
Surprised you opted for open cell as it doesn't have the vapor permeability and structural stiffness benefits of closed cell. Closed cell is also R7-7.5 per inch while open cell is about R3-3.5 per inch. But perhaps there was a reason that the contractor recommended it for your specific job. Regardless, you're going to notice a huge difference in comfort as you already note in the video.
I heard open cell allows the wood to allow moisture thru so the wood doesn't rot underneath the foam. That's a big problem for these foam installations, so it has to be the right type or the wood rots in a few years
The ceiling in my little shop is the underside of the tin roof. In the summer the heat radiates straight down. Feels like an oven and in winter the heat from the heater goes straight out the roof. After watching this video I'm going to do this. Tried fiberglass insulation and wound up with a large family of rats in the ceiling. Not doing that again. lol.
Isn't it just the opposite? That open cell is the one with moisture permeability? Permeable means subject to.
Great video!
Thanks!
Noticed the canopy for you miter saw. Can you tell me where you got it from, thanks??
So cool
That price is a great value . Been wondering myself about cost .
looks like they sprayed marshmallow on the ceiling!! that stuff is pretty cool !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi Nathan! Are you going to line the ceilings?
I had an estimate for spray in 2022 for an upcoming project 1543sqft ceiling and walls was $2200. Finally had got to start in 2023 and asked for the ceiling only on the same project and it was $3500 from the same company..
great!
That looks great. Are you going to install more old barn metal on the ceiling in there?
I was gonna ask the same. That stuff will get real dirty and dusty.
Well I hope you put up fire board, foam is very flammable
Open cell foam allows moisture to escape while closed cell foam will cause condensation to accumulate on surfaces and mold will form if the room is too tightly sealed. My grandfather taught me about this in detail because quite frankly I don’t understand why the building codes are set up quite the way they are with vapor barriers(the initial conversation) because whether the vapor barrier is on the inside or the outside of the insulation doesn’t seem to make any functional difference to me, but I am not an expert. Closed cell foam acts as a vapor barrier as well as insulation, so you can’t use it on walls AND ceiling, but you could use it on the walls but use open cell on the ceiling to allow moisture to escape.
The easiest way to remember the difference between open cell foam and closed. Cell phone is to think of the big blocks of foam under a dock; those are made of closed cell foam so they will never get waterlogged. Closed cells are similar to a bunch of individual little balloons each trapping air. Open Cell foam is like a kitchen sponge.
Unfortunately open-cell spray foam is a poor choice for roof decks. Opened cell is vapor permeable meaning moisture carried by air will infiltrate the foam and "ping pong" up to the highest point in the roof deck (usually the ridge). This roof may experience ridge rot within 3-5 years. A way to avoid this is to spray at least 2 inches of closed cell foam then spray open over it.
It makes people think about insulation in the workshop or even the house
Cool.
I went through the "froth-pack" trials too! What a joke for me!
Ended up paying $700 for my 40x8 container ceiling and walls, closed cell! I'll never try it again.
Nathan - Are you going to put something on the ceiling and walls to give your workshop a nice surface appearance (ship lap boards or roofing/metal sheeting)? A talented, hardworking guy like you deserves a good-looking place to work to showcase your handiwork.
@N8 did I see a blade/edge sharpener on the floor?
I do agree that on this stuff it does not pay off to DIY, the price we pay for a DIY kit is just too high compared to the price they pay in bulk.
Maybe I'll do that in my shed.
5 inches of open cell foam has an R value of 19, whereas 3 inches of closed cell foam has an R value of 21. I had my steel barn sprayed with 3 inches of closed cell foam and installed a mini split HVAC unit and it stays 72° inside with the unit set at 73°.