The Thief and The Cobbler: The Recobbled Cur is truly one of the most ambitious lost media recreations I’ve ever seen. Attempting to finally fix Richard Williams 30 year long masterpiece.
19:35 Sonic Armageddon was not created by Ben Hurst, it was Ken Penders. Ben wanted to do a season 3 of Satam (since it ended on a Season 2 cliffhanger) but Ken Penders sabotaged his attempt (by claiming to Sega that Ben was planning to co-opt the Sonic franchise) so he could pitch his Sonic Armageddon movie
I feel like hurst’s version could have been a good way to end off the original Sonic SATAM, but Ken Penders version on the other hand I think would have been absolutely bonkers.
What a terrible shame so much work has gone into so much work, only never to be completed and lost in time. What a terrible waste of time and talent. Hopefully some of this wonderful work will still come to life and make it to the big screen. Thanks for your dedication and research on one of my favorites subjects, animation. 😢 Sad, sad, sad!
I find the story of Richard Williams so fascinating (he is one of my personal inspirations if I may be honest), I mean he spent 25 years making what he believed would have been “the greatest animated movie of all time” with the thief and the cobbler. Everything from the animation he did in some of the Pink Panther films, the 1971 Christmas Carol, Raggedy Ann and Andy a musical adventure and even Who Framed Roger Rabbit were all done so he could get the funding for what would’ve been his magnum opus. It’s a shame that we never did get to see his version of The Thief And The Cobbler due to studio meddling, but it is good that we have fan made versions, as those are pretty much the closest we’ll ever get to seeing the original version of the film. Also I am glad that Richard Williams at least was in peace during the later parts of his career, with him going on to make The Animator’s Survival Kit, a book that has become an essential for those who are aspiring animators. So I’m glad that in some ways he did have a good career.
It wasn't the studio meddling that killed the movie. Richard Williams kept asking for more time and money even though he had previously agreed to a budget and deadline, and his vision started off much smaller, but it kept expanding until it ballooned out of control. Not to mention that he have the animators redo a perfectly useable sequences because he changed his mind on a minor details.
@@SirBlackReeds The man was a perfectionist for sure, i do wish we got a better official product than we did. In a better world, he would have had all the time he needed
Sure wish Don Bluth didn't have his bad film era. He almost made a comeback with Anastasia and then Titan AE pretty much was the final nail in the coffin. Such a shame because he could have been a great asset for dreamworks.
He would have never gone to Dreamworks because he didn't want anything to do with George Lucas and/or Steven Spielberg after The Land Before Time. He blamed his bad film era on that film because Lucas and Spielberg were more hands-on, which meant less creative control for him.
@@SirBlackReeds They cut out the deleted scenes from The Land Before Time and he was miffed about even just that, so yeah. And unfortunately the film negatives of those deleted scenes aren't known to have been saved.
The first Asterix movie, which is based on the first album, isn't lost at all, it's just that the creators didn't like the animation quality and when the same animation studio made an adaptation of the second album they hated it so much they demanded all the negatives to be destroyed.
@@kyliethelittlespider-mangirl94 I got lucky, I had a library that had foreign books. I'd read Asterix and Tin Tin. No clue what anyone was saying because it was French but i had a lot of fun reading via the art. I was mentioning the bit about the movie tonight to my brother and he was off about us having watched the first movie on VHS before I even finished that part of the sentence.
I'm wondering how close Golden Sickle was in production. I caught the first movie somewhere online, and it ended with a teaser for Asterix and Cleopatra. Was that George Lucased in on future releases? I'm still confused by it.
Glad "A Day With Spongebob" is slowly getting phased out. It is one of the pieces of Lost Media I find to be overrated. Like its one of those things I just don't get the excitement for. Yet other finds like Clockman and Cracks are actually the fun ones. There is so many I can say are the best searches but it will take forever... Also, when will we find Freaky Flickers? I always wished that one got found!
This was another really great Video. However... 13:54 'John CARPENTER based on the book by Edgar Wright Burrough'!!? Um..Incorrect on both counts - Close, but no cigar! 49:29 'HANALULU Nights' was another banger!! Cheers! Regardless, there was an awful lot of interesting lost media here. Thanks so much!!
I was going to leave a similar comment, until I saw you beat me to the punch. Great video, despite a few glaring flaws. These sorts of mistakes used to really get under my skin... UnfortunatelyOr at l, a video over ten minutes in length, featuring fact-based historical information, WITHOUT numerous pronunciation, factual, and grammatical errors, on RUclips, is about as common as hen's teeth or rocking-horse poo, so I've been learning just to quietly accept it. Or at least trying. I guess I'm just used to grad school, where all sources must be clearly cited, papers diligently edited and peer-reviewed, and mistakes painstakingly eliminated, lest you want a paper that constitutes a sizable portion of your final grade to be marked down for typos and other minor imperfections. I suppose one of the reasons it irks me is, that with modern editing software, it's so easy to go back and fix something. Unsure of how to pronounce and unfamiliar term? Google the proper pronunciation. Unsure of the legitimacy of a source? Cross reference it. In the case of this video, the name was actually visually depicted. Had he watched it once prior to uploading the finished video, he likely would have caught and corrected the error. It just seems like that might be something one would want to do before releasing content that's about to be viewed by thousands of people. Again though, I suppose that's asking too much of RUclips content creators.
Hey good lookin' is one of my favorite films and I am so desperate to see the live action cut. I know Crazy's dad was originally live action and you can see a few stills of it online, but that was the most I had seen up until now.
Alma was possibly shelfed since 2012 because Pacific Rim was in development along with Toro trying and failing to get whats now his 2022 film Pinocchio pitched and developed. Makes me kinda sad cause it seems like a good concept but it is possible it was used as a stepping stone to become his Pinocchio or sprout the idea of trying to pitch it.
42:35 the thumbnail black haired woman with big blossoms is Rozzie Featherschneid in "Hey Good Lookin' ". But before the thumbnail change there was a familiar "busty cowgirl" character that I couldn't remember who in time but now it's whatever ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I've found that this specific image of her is from the movie during the beach scene when she is flirting with Vinnie at about 30 minutes and 24 seconds of the film.@@TDFAL
There are many creative people in the world, especially on the Internet. That’s why it infuriates me so much that big studios don’t release every material from these cancelled movies to the public domain, giving indie creators the chance to finish these projects the didn’t.
- Dialogue from the Chris Farley version of Shrek has been pretty prominent online. The early leak was of the Campfire Confession scene, when Shrek confesses as to why he wants to live by himself, and the most recent audio leak was of Shrek trying to scare Donkey away after rescuing him from Farquaad's henchmen. - The Sly Cooper movie never got off the ground due to the Ratchet & Clank movie failing critically and financially, so Sony had no incentive of letting Rainmaker/Mainframe Entertainment make another film of their IP.
34:04 Gatchaman was based on the anime of the same name. Though English speaking fans of a certain age may know it by the names of Battle of the Planets, G-Force, or Eagle Riders. Imagi were also working on an adaptation of another classic anime, Tetsujin 28 aka. Gigantor, as well as Dreamwork's Tusker. Perhaps having pre-existing relationships with Dreamworks & various Japanese companies is how they were able to get the film rights to these properties.
I remember when this thing was announced. Paul Dini was attached to write. I remember being impressed they were going to give it the original Japanese title and not the more recognized in the west "Battle of the Planets." That and being very disappointed the studio folded before it got made. There was also a sequel planned for the 2007 TMNT animated film, but negotiations broke down because they wanted to make it a more comedic tone than the first. Peter Laird didn't like what was being pitched (he still owned Mirage at the time). Considering how the sequel to the original TMNT movie came out, I'd see why he'd turn a goofball comedy down.
Surprised that Garfield Judgement Day wasn't listed. The 1980's attempt at giving Garfield a theatrical film in his prime that was considered "too dark" to release. All that exists is a book and a song that was to be in the movie performed by Lou Rawls and Desiree Goyette for a 10th anniversary special. Perhaps it would get a mention in the Disney Iceberg, if you decide to make one, as Disney almost was on board with distributing the film, but was the studio that thought it was too dark to release.
You missed out Doraemon - Robot Wars. It was an unlicensed Taiwanese film released on February 12th 1983 and was a box office flop. It was made without permission of Fujiko F. Fujio and produced by Wang Film/Cuckoo's Nest Productions. There are only a few screenshots and a 30 second clip of the film.
The issue is Gigantic just doesn't work in this day and age because of how prominent the gigantism fetish is online, there's no way you can market a movie like that without the fetish crowd picking up on it. It's also very likely the reason since the only reason given was "unspecified creative differences" and Disney have been trying to hide any knowledge of the movie for years and go out of their way to not acknowledge it.
The Thief and the Cobbler was never lost or cancelled. It was just completed not in the creator's vision. Also, the artwork you used for Dracula was a mockup from a fan, that is not from the movie. The movie never made it even to the character design stage. Foodfight was also never lost or canceled. It, like most animated movies, just went through various stages of production. Also, not to sound selfish, but credit would've been nice as the person that found 90% of things relating to Foodfight as well as uploading the Strawberry Fields tape, which the digitization was provided to me by someone who knows the art director in person, who I have spoken to.
The more replies I'm reading just looks like the guy who made this video jumped on Google, went to reddit and called it a night cuz I'm seeing so many comments saying 90% of everything he's said is just wrong
Concerning the version of "Pinocchio" mentioned at 13:05, there was a version released in Italy in 1972 that looks like they used the character designs used in this version.
Very good video!!! I was very happy to be mentioned at 50:56! (I already follow your channel and didn't expect to appear in it out of nowhere lol) In the interview i made, Álvaro's son gave some details about the production of the film and what his father's life was like. Afterwards, talking to him, he told me that he does plan to make the film available, but he wants to do it in an appropriate way to do justice to his father's legacy.
No mention of the Marvin the Martian animation/live action mixed film. I just don't get how a bunch of these are not reattempted decades later, some of them seem so interesting! Still personally dying for a Popeye adaptation!
55:12 That's atomickingboo's fan-art of Betty of the cancelled project, its a bit discouraging you've removed his signature and not bother crediting him since that's his artwork.
@@TheSketchyartist3 don't attribute mallice to what could possibly be a mistake. He could've searched it up and found the art thinking its real and someone else took the signature off
@@alanpendragon1316 Its not being malice to point out the fact that fan-art was used, nor pointing out that the artist's signature was removed along with the fact that the user doesn't bother linking who made the art in the first place.
it must have been so fascinating as an animation fan, looking forward to so many of these films when they were announced or when trailers were made, only to have it just... lost. I find that so eerie and cool!
Dude I love your work but *please* look up how to pronounce things in other languages before you read them. Your mispronunciation of Satoshi Kon's name gave me an aneurysm
@@matthewsuchomski2593 I have a theory that two thirds of these long form iceberg/list videos are actually entirely AI generated by a sentient neural net in order to fund its own expansion by purchasing compute power and server space with the proceeds.
As a Gegege No Kitaro fan, I'm glad this Anime series (film) got mentioned! Nice video! Though in the video, you forgot another Gegege No Kitaro film called 'Joka', it was an Anime film that hasn't been shown to the public, thought there are some screen shots from a Japanese Twitter user that was deleted, but thankfully they are archived in IA. I really hope both the Gegege film are found one day! :D
Why didn't you mention Jeff Smith's Bone movie, being made by Warner Brothers back in 2008? It would have been directed by Kung Fu Panda's second director. The project ran for a long time, but in the end it was quietly canceled. As far as I know, no lnow footage or concept art has been shown. It was my most anticipated movie in my late childhood, but it just never came true. Then netflix tried to do a series and that was also cancelled. There's also the 90's Bone movie by Nickelodeon! How could you miss this?
Amazing list. I’ve been really interested in both the creative process of animation and and the films that have remained unfinished, unreleased and or lost in time (actually any type of lost media is fascinating). For anyone looking for a list of Disney films that are in this situation RUclips creator “Yesterworld” has do 2 videos of all of Disney’s unreleased, unfinished and or lost films from its beginnings of their theatrical releases to now.
Hey I found this documentary about the behind the scenes of the trap door where the creators of the show talk about their production of the series. At one point they talked about other projects one of them was a film idea called the pudding where it would be about two aliens creatures called houdlen and groil who have landed on planet earth on Christmas where a another alien called the balget is using a device to steal all the Christmas gifts in the world. So it’s up to the both of them to stop him and there was some animation created roundabout 1 minute was made you can find on RUclips but sadly that all there is I think it was cancelled i just don’t know there is just not that much info about it
as a kid i made a stop motion animation were a random action figure got covered in play-doh trying to recreate the symbiote scene from spiderman 3, it was pretty darn bad, i wish i kept it
Surprised that all three adaptations of Jeff Smith's Bone weren't mentioned here. Though I guess only two would really count since they were films and the other was a series.
There’s another cancelled animated movie about elephant that I never see anyone talking about called the Legend of Tembo. It’s about an African elephant named Tembo who, as a calf, is taken from his home and shipped off to India and in order to get home joins the army as a war elephant. The movie was supposed to be directed by Aaron Blaine and Chuck Williams and was gonna be produced by a studio called Digital Domain, but they unfortunately went bankrupt in 2012. Fortunately, some of the people who worked on the film uploaded a bunch of the story boards to RUclips and other websites, basically showing most of the plot, give or take a few changes, and I honestly think it could’ve been a great movie.
Just a heads up 55:12 is actually fan art from a rule 34 artist. Sucks to see it in the video especially when the rest of the video is full of authentic concept art.
Wow, there’s a lot on here that are new to me, which is nice to see in an iceberg video. But what’s really wild is hearing that cyber world movie is considered lost media??? I watched that in theaters! It was kinda weird-I remember some of the cuts being in strange places (particularly the Simpsons part ending with Homer falling into a pit and disintegrating). I also think some of the dialogue was censored to make it more kid-appropriate? I could be remembering wrong though. Still, it’s weird knowing that I have, apparently, experienced lost media.
Thank you for this video. Always found it fascinating and sad to see so much potential not realized. If I may say, i would consider adding subtext/subtitled to each one to each title. It was a little difficult to understand.
People always forget that Dreamworks was working on a film adaptation of Rudyard Kipling’s The White Seal. It was cancelled in its infancy in order to make Kung Fu Panda. The only remaining proof that this movie existed is that Eric Whittaker who was supposed to be the film’s composer released a piece from the film titled “The Seal Lullaby”
Betty Boop, Beauty and the Beast, Little Blue Whale, the Sunshine Princess, Dreaming Machine, Dracula, Betsy of the Jungle, and Can Do, Song of the Ice Whale. They sounded like good movies to see. Don Bluth's movies I would've liked to see the most, especially his version of Beauty and the Beast.
I don't know if it will even make the list but the one that hurts me is that we were going to get a klonoa movie but it got scrapped. The only thing I've seen about it was a picture of klonoa in a new outfit.
I always eatched Thief and the Cobbler as a kid. The VHS I had however had it titled "Cobbler and the Thief". Had I known it was lost media, I would've kept the VHS
That concept art is by ken penders both him and ben hurst both wanted to make sonic projects ben wanted to continue satam and ken didnt want this and told sega ben was trying to sabotage the franchise
1. Pilot didn't become a company until 1988 according to Wikipedia and several other sites. Also they seems to have been doing things as late as 2014. 2. Clever use of Arrival of a Train. 3. Conceptual like like the ider of Strawberry Fields. Although I'm a bit hard pressed to see Maxwell as more than just a murderer. But that could be because I hate that song. I've heard one or two of the songs that have been released though I didn't know they were from some project because I've never heard of this before.
Correction: It was actually Ken Penders who came up with Sonic Armaggedon, not Ben Hurst. edit: There are two movies I will be mad until I die over the fact they never got made, thats the Plants vs Zombies Dreamworks movie (during their Kung Fu Panda and HTTYD years) and the 90s Cats movie. I will go to the grave pissed off we never got those movies, especially because the Cats movie we did get was so bad.
I'm creating a cartoon. It's called, Forgotten Tales! It's about these forgotten and obscure characters that no one remembers from media going on wacky and crazy adventures.
You guys are lucky I went through the entire video to see what countries produced the most lost films on this list! Here they are: USA - 57 (obviously) Japan - 13 UK - 6 Mexico - 4 Russia - 4 Argentina - 3 France - 3 Brazil - 2 Italy - 2 Hong Kong - 2 Chile - 1 Estonia - 1 Germany - 1 Films produced between more than a country: 4
The Thief and The Cobbler: The Recobbled Cur is truly one of the most ambitious lost media recreations I’ve ever seen. Attempting to finally fix Richard Williams 30 year long masterpiece.
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Is a true Masterpiece ❤
I think The Thief and the Cobbler is no longer lost due to restoration and rebbled cuts but some least cut are considered lost
I watched that film once a long time ago. It was alright.
Richard Williams must be very proud. RIP
19:35 Sonic Armageddon was not created by Ben Hurst, it was Ken Penders. Ben wanted to do a season 3 of Satam (since it ended on a Season 2 cliffhanger) but Ken Penders sabotaged his attempt (by claiming to Sega that Ben was planning to co-opt the Sonic franchise) so he could pitch his Sonic Armageddon movie
I feel like hurst’s version could have been a good way to end off the original Sonic SATAM, but Ken Penders version on the other hand I think would have been absolutely bonkers.
@@gojirafan0577first thing nice pfp, second of all true
@@MONSTERKING69420 thank you
@@gojirafan0577 The worst part is that Ken claimed he wanted to help Ben only to turn around and backstab him
Yet another reason to *HATE* Ken Penders even more.
What a terrible shame so much work has gone into so much work, only never to be completed and lost in time. What a terrible waste of time and talent. Hopefully some of this wonderful work will still come to life and make it to the big screen. Thanks for your dedication and research on one of my favorites subjects, animation. 😢 Sad, sad, sad!
I find the story of Richard Williams so fascinating (he is one of my personal inspirations if I may be honest), I mean he spent 25 years making what he believed would have been “the greatest animated movie of all time” with the thief and the cobbler. Everything from the animation he did in some of the Pink Panther films, the 1971 Christmas Carol, Raggedy Ann and Andy a musical adventure and even Who Framed Roger Rabbit were all done so he could get the funding for what would’ve been his magnum opus. It’s a shame that we never did get to see his version of The Thief And The Cobbler due to studio meddling, but it is good that we have fan made versions, as those are pretty much the closest we’ll ever get to seeing the original version of the film. Also I am glad that Richard Williams at least was in peace during the later parts of his career, with him going on to make The Animator’s Survival Kit, a book that has become an essential for those who are aspiring animators. So I’m glad that in some ways he did have a good career.
I love Richard Williams I even got his book
@@reshawndrezenbarriga7218 same here!
It wasn't the studio meddling that killed the movie. Richard Williams kept asking for more time and money even though he had previously agreed to a budget and deadline, and his vision started off much smaller, but it kept expanding until it ballooned out of control. Not to mention that he have the animators redo a perfectly useable sequences because he changed his mind on a minor details.
@@SirBlackReeds The man was a perfectionist for sure, i do wish we got a better official product than we did. In a better world, he would have had all the time he needed
@@hammerman4513oh absolutely! I would love it if some day we got a Directors Cut DVD of the film, the way Richard Williams had intended it to be.
Sure wish Don Bluth didn't have his bad film era. He almost made a comeback with Anastasia and then Titan AE pretty much was the final nail in the coffin. Such a shame because he could have been a great asset for dreamworks.
I hear ya, brotha!
He would have never gone to Dreamworks because he didn't want anything to do with George Lucas and/or Steven Spielberg after The Land Before Time. He blamed his bad film era on that film because Lucas and Spielberg were more hands-on, which meant less creative control for him.
@@SirBlackReeds They cut out the deleted scenes from The Land Before Time and he was miffed about even just that, so yeah. And unfortunately the film negatives of those deleted scenes aren't known to have been saved.
The first Asterix movie, which is based on the first album, isn't lost at all, it's just that the creators didn't like the animation quality and when the same animation studio made an adaptation of the second album they hated it so much they demanded all the negatives to be destroyed.
I was like..., I have the official DVD rerelease from like 2018 of that movie haha
OK so The Golden Sickle didn't happen. I was really sure that years ago I sawr an Asterix movie on VHS.
Shoutout to all those people who know Asterix even if you’re from the US (like me)
@@kyliethelittlespider-mangirl94 I got lucky, I had a library that had foreign books. I'd read Asterix and Tin Tin. No clue what anyone was saying because it was French but i had a lot of fun reading via the art. I was mentioning the bit about the movie tonight to my brother and he was off about us having watched the first movie on VHS before I even finished that part of the sentence.
I'm wondering how close Golden Sickle was in production. I caught the first movie somewhere online, and it ended with a teaser for Asterix and Cleopatra. Was that George Lucased in on future releases? I'm still confused by it.
"Shatoshi Kong" "John Carpenter" bro.
not even , it sounded more like "sotochi kong"
Glad "A Day With Spongebob" is slowly getting phased out. It is one of the pieces of Lost Media I find to be overrated. Like its one of those things I just don't get the excitement for. Yet other finds like Clockman and Cracks are actually the fun ones. There is so many I can say are the best searches but it will take forever...
Also, when will we find Freaky Flickers? I always wished that one got found!
this vid could've done with a proof read or two. Some really bizarre mistakes in here
Yeah, John Carpenter instead of John Carter made me lol
Yeah, I said this in another reply but it really feels like this guy just read a bunch of Google first results or reddit top comments and said "yup"
@@ELEKTROSKANSEN yup, apparently based on the books by Edgar Rie Burrough...
Probably left them in so people would comment more
I find the cancelled films of Blue Sky Studios to be very interesting. Although i like Ice Age i feel like that franchise was holding them back.
This was another really great Video.
However...
13:54 'John CARPENTER based on the book by Edgar Wright Burrough'!!? Um..Incorrect on both counts - Close, but no cigar!
49:29 'HANALULU Nights' was another banger!! Cheers!
Regardless, there was an awful lot of interesting lost media here. Thanks so much!!
I was going to leave a similar comment, until I saw you beat me to the punch. Great video, despite a few glaring flaws. These sorts of mistakes used to really get under my skin... UnfortunatelyOr at l, a video over ten minutes in length, featuring fact-based historical information, WITHOUT numerous pronunciation, factual, and grammatical errors, on RUclips, is about as common as hen's teeth or rocking-horse poo, so I've been learning just to quietly accept it. Or at least trying.
I guess I'm just used to grad school, where all sources must be clearly cited, papers diligently edited and peer-reviewed, and mistakes painstakingly eliminated, lest you want a paper that constitutes a sizable portion of your final grade to be marked down for typos and other minor imperfections. I suppose one of the reasons it irks me is, that with modern editing software, it's so easy to go back and fix something. Unsure of how to pronounce and unfamiliar term? Google the proper pronunciation. Unsure of the legitimacy of a source? Cross reference it.
In the case of this video, the name was actually visually depicted. Had he watched it once prior to uploading the finished video, he likely would have caught and corrected the error. It just seems like that might be something one would want to do before releasing content that's about to be viewed by thousands of people. Again though, I suppose that's asking too much of RUclips content creators.
Hey good lookin' is one of my favorite films and I am so desperate to see the live action cut. I know Crazy's dad was originally live action and you can see a few stills of it online, but that was the most I had seen up until now.
Alma was possibly shelfed since 2012 because Pacific Rim was in development along with Toro trying and failing to get whats now his 2022 film Pinocchio pitched and developed. Makes me kinda sad cause it seems like a good concept but it is possible it was used as a stepping stone to become his Pinocchio or sprout the idea of trying to pitch it.
42:35 the thumbnail black haired woman with big blossoms is Rozzie Featherschneid in "Hey Good Lookin' ". But before the thumbnail change there was a familiar "busty cowgirl" character that I couldn't remember who in time but now it's whatever ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Was the version for the thumbnail specifically for the thumbnail or is there full art of it somewhere?
I've found that this specific image of her is from the movie during the beach scene when she is flirting with Vinnie at about 30 minutes and 24 seconds of the film.@@TDFAL
@@nobodyno1469 ah
There are many creative people in the world, especially on the Internet.
That’s why it infuriates me so much that big studios don’t release every material from these cancelled movies to the public domain, giving indie creators the chance to finish these projects the didn’t.
Corporations will always be your enemy. You don’t owe them your “civility”
Great video!
I was expecting to see Robert Zemeckis' Yellow Submarine or Yuri Norstein's The Overcoat on this iceberg.
The Adventure Time Movie was reconfirmed recently along with other announced spin-offs for the IP.
I would’ve loved to see a Mutts movie, that pencil test looked so cute! 😍
I forgot those comics existed. I would have watched it too
- Dialogue from the Chris Farley version of Shrek has been pretty prominent online. The early leak was of the Campfire Confession scene, when Shrek confesses as to why he wants to live by himself, and the most recent audio leak was of Shrek trying to scare Donkey away after rescuing him from Farquaad's henchmen.
- The Sly Cooper movie never got off the ground due to the Ratchet & Clank movie failing critically and financially, so Sony had no incentive of letting Rainmaker/Mainframe Entertainment make another film of their IP.
34:04 Gatchaman was based on the anime of the same name. Though English speaking fans of a certain age may know it by the names of Battle of the Planets, G-Force, or Eagle Riders. Imagi were also working on an adaptation of another classic anime, Tetsujin 28 aka. Gigantor, as well as Dreamwork's Tusker. Perhaps having pre-existing relationships with Dreamworks & various Japanese companies is how they were able to get the film rights to these properties.
I remember when this thing was announced. Paul Dini was attached to write. I remember being impressed they were going to give it the original Japanese title and not the more recognized in the west "Battle of the Planets." That and being very disappointed the studio folded before it got made. There was also a sequel planned for the 2007 TMNT animated film, but negotiations broke down because they wanted to make it a more comedic tone than the first. Peter Laird didn't like what was being pitched (he still owned Mirage at the time). Considering how the sequel to the original TMNT movie came out, I'd see why he'd turn a goofball comedy down.
I knew Ralph Bakshi would in here somewhere.
i liked that final entry. it's like when a videogame includes "and you" as a credit in the special thanks during the staff roll.
I really wish The Thief and the Cobbler got completed the animation is incredible and was worth the decades spent on it
Exactly, man i wished for a sequel too but eh, better done nicely than overdone
Surprised that Garfield Judgement Day wasn't listed. The 1980's attempt at giving Garfield a theatrical film in his prime that was considered "too dark" to release. All that exists is a book and a song that was to be in the movie performed by Lou Rawls and Desiree Goyette for a 10th anniversary special. Perhaps it would get a mention in the Disney Iceberg, if you decide to make one, as Disney almost was on board with distributing the film, but was the studio that thought it was too dark to release.
You missed out Doraemon - Robot Wars. It was an unlicensed Taiwanese film released on February 12th 1983 and was a box office flop. It was made without permission of Fujiko F. Fujio and produced by Wang Film/Cuckoo's Nest Productions. There are only a few screenshots and a 30 second clip of the film.
I feel like gigantic,Medusa, and ,confession of an imaginary freind, bug man deserves to be films.
The issue is Gigantic just doesn't work in this day and age because of how prominent the gigantism fetish is online, there's no way you can market a movie like that without the fetish crowd picking up on it. It's also very likely the reason since the only reason given was "unspecified creative differences" and Disney have been trying to hide any knowledge of the movie for years and go out of their way to not acknowledge it.
@@captainweekend5276have you seen the Disney films over the years. They don’t care as long they put effort in the movies
13:53 I’m glad Carpenter’s finally getting the recognition he deserved
I need Foodfight: Reshelved.
12:27 I like how the way you say "Genndy had... DEPARTURED from the project"
Also the Michael Jackson version of cats dont dance was going to be about stray cats that are on film lots
If it was made god flooded the entire earth
@@Jace-qp8ej huh
Yes god flooded the earth if the film got made
@@Jace-qp8ej no
@@kj21 why?
The Thief and the Cobbler was never lost or cancelled. It was just completed not in the creator's vision. Also, the artwork you used for Dracula was a mockup from a fan, that is not from the movie. The movie never made it even to the character design stage. Foodfight was also never lost or canceled. It, like most animated movies, just went through various stages of production.
Also, not to sound selfish, but credit would've been nice as the person that found 90% of things relating to Foodfight as well as uploading the Strawberry Fields tape, which the digitization was provided to me by someone who knows the art director in person, who I have spoken to.
The more replies I'm reading just looks like the guy who made this video jumped on Google, went to reddit and called it a night cuz I'm seeing so many comments saying 90% of everything he's said is just wrong
@@digiphobia9416 Probably used chatGPT or some AI chatbot to quickly get answers to ones he didn't know.
Can’t wait to find out scribbles what animated movies you have on here 😊
I’m still pissed about the fate of Larrikins as an Aussie :(
Agreed my fellow Aussie 🇦🇺
Not Aussie, but I would have absolutely loved to see Larrykins. It looks like it would have been a lot of fun
Nicely done. It’s surprising how many stories never got the chance to be told in animation.
17:57 WHAT DUDE I WOULD HAVE LOVED THIS COME ONNN and I love all dogs go to heaven that broke my heart 😭
You jinxed yourself with that Adventure Time movie lol
00:36:38 Shatoki Kong.. lol his name is Satoshi Kon
I cried so hard when he passed. My fav director.
Concerning the version of "Pinocchio" mentioned at 13:05, there was a version released in Italy in 1972 that looks like they used the character designs used in this version.
I believe both designs were based on Attilio Mussino's illustrations.
Very good video!!!
I was very happy to be mentioned at 50:56! (I already follow your channel and didn't expect to appear in it out of nowhere lol) In the interview i made, Álvaro's son gave some details about the production of the film and what his father's life was like. Afterwards, talking to him, he told me that he does plan to make the film available, but he wants to do it in an appropriate way to do justice to his father's legacy.
The John Carter from Mars not Carpenter 😭😂🤣
I was looking for this comment as soon as he said that. Well, after I went back to confirm that was what he said, anyway.
and then he said Edgar Wright Burrough. so many lies in this kind of schlock.
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as a child, this preserved fragment of the cartoon seemed to me quite creepy and uncanny
2003 Little longnose better be on the list cause there is a lost English dub version cause there’s only the Russian version online
I like Hey good lookin and one day the 70's version will be found. 😀👍
No mention of the Marvin the Martian animation/live action mixed film.
I just don't get how a bunch of these are not reattempted decades later, some of them seem so interesting!
Still personally dying for a Popeye adaptation!
55:12 That's atomickingboo's fan-art of Betty of the cancelled project, its a bit discouraging you've removed his signature and not bother crediting him since that's his artwork.
Thank you so much for crediting the original artist. As an artist myself, it means a lot to be properly credited
@@haileyrain9305 Its discouraging that they decided to remove his signature.
@@TheSketchyartist3 don't attribute mallice to what could possibly be a mistake. He could've searched it up and found the art thinking its real and someone else took the signature off
@@alanpendragon1316 Its not being malice to point out the fact that fan-art was used, nor pointing out that the artist's signature was removed along with the fact that the user doesn't bother linking who made the art in the first place.
it must have been so fascinating as an animation fan, looking forward to so many of these films when they were announced or when trailers were made, only to have it just... lost. I find that so eerie and cool!
Dude I love your work but *please* look up how to pronounce things in other languages before you read them. Your mispronunciation of Satoshi Kon's name gave me an aneurysm
Dudes will make hour long videos but googling a name for five seconds is too much research for them
he even mispronounces English names, somehow John Carter by Edgar Rice Burroughs became "John Carpenter by Edgar Rie Burrough".
@@matthewsuchomski2593 I have a theory that two thirds of these long form iceberg/list videos are actually entirely AI generated by a sentient neural net in order to fund its own expansion by purchasing compute power and server space with the proceeds.
@@Zarnubius the thought has crossed my mind.
im specifically only here to find who the pretty lady in the bottom left of the thumbnail is
Edit: Rozzie Featherschneid :)
As a Gegege No Kitaro fan, I'm glad this Anime series (film) got mentioned! Nice video! Though in the video, you forgot another Gegege No Kitaro film called 'Joka', it was an Anime film that hasn't been shown to the public, thought there are some screen shots from a Japanese Twitter user that was deleted, but thankfully they are archived in IA. I really hope both the Gegege film are found one day! :D
Please do a similar iceberg video, but for various Disney and Pixar animated movies!
It’s SATOSHI KON
FR how on earth did his name get butchered that badly????
Thank you! I was looking for this comment. I get mistakes now and then but that's just a massacre of his name.
Shatoki Kong 🫣
Why didn't you mention Jeff Smith's Bone movie, being made by Warner Brothers back in 2008? It would have been directed by Kung Fu Panda's second director. The project ran for a long time, but in the end it was quietly canceled. As far as I know, no lnow footage or concept art has been shown.
It was my most anticipated movie in my late childhood, but it just never came true. Then netflix tried to do a series and that was also cancelled.
There's also the 90's Bone movie by Nickelodeon! How could you miss this?
Amazing list. I’ve been really interested in both the creative process of animation and and the films that have remained unfinished, unreleased and or lost in time (actually any type of lost media is fascinating). For anyone looking for a list of Disney films that are in this situation RUclips creator “Yesterworld” has do 2 videos of all of Disney’s unreleased, unfinished and or lost films from its beginnings of their theatrical releases to now.
Hey I found this documentary about the behind the scenes of the trap door where the creators of the show talk about their production of the series. At one point they talked about other projects one of them was a film idea called the pudding where it would be about two aliens creatures called houdlen and groil who have landed on planet earth on Christmas where a another alien called the balget is using a device to steal all the Christmas gifts in the world. So it’s up to the both of them to stop him and there was some animation created roundabout 1 minute was made you can find on RUclips but sadly that all there is I think it was cancelled i just don’t know there is just not that much info about it
25:28 ough this looks SO great even with only the concept art, i’m sure it would’ve been amazing..
A sly cooper movie would be peak cinema
as a kid i made a stop motion animation were a random action figure got covered in play-doh trying to recreate the symbiote scene from spiderman 3, it was pretty darn bad, i wish i kept it
21:34 till this day I’m still so upset that this movie was never finished, it would have been one of the coolest animated films ever I just know it 😢
Surprised that all three adaptations of Jeff Smith's Bone weren't mentioned here. Though I guess only two would really count since they were films and the other was a series.
They should have released that Betty Boop movie! Great Video Scribbles
True, also didn't we already know that she had yiddish parents and were shown in one of the episodes? Her story with her father would've been cute tho
I wonder if anything Beebylon related would be on that list?
I used to make flip books out of post-it notes in middle school to make my friends laugh. The ultimate lost media right there
Still have all my childhood Lego stop motion animations on hand so they havent gotten lost yet
There’s another cancelled animated movie about elephant that I never see anyone talking about called the Legend of Tembo. It’s about an African elephant named Tembo who, as a calf, is taken from his home and shipped off to India and in order to get home joins the army as a war elephant. The movie was supposed to be directed by Aaron Blaine and Chuck Williams and was gonna be produced by a studio called Digital Domain, but they unfortunately went bankrupt in 2012. Fortunately, some of the people who worked on the film uploaded a bunch of the story boards to RUclips and other websites, basically showing most of the plot, give or take a few changes, and I honestly think it could’ve been a great movie.
There is no end of the fake facts and missing knowledge of this video.
39:58 ooooooh if this had been made i would have loved it, the art??? stunning
Just a heads up 55:12 is actually fan art from a rule 34 artist. Sucks to see it in the video especially when the rest of the video is full of authentic concept art.
Okay? Lmao
"15 Thousand" WHAT, fella?! That says "Dibujos", which means "Drawings". "15 Thousand Drawings". Good lord, sir.
the Works in terms of artstyle reminds me of Dire Straits Money For Nothing music video
Wow, there’s a lot on here that are new to me, which is nice to see in an iceberg video. But what’s really wild is hearing that cyber world movie is considered lost media??? I watched that in theaters! It was kinda weird-I remember some of the cuts being in strange places (particularly the Simpsons part ending with Homer falling into a pit and disintegrating). I also think some of the dialogue was censored to make it more kid-appropriate? I could be remembering wrong though. Still, it’s weird knowing that I have, apparently, experienced lost media.
I used to have the thief and the cobbler bc it came with 3 different movies including jungledyret hugo
Thank you for this video. Always found it fascinating and sad to see so much potential not realized.
If I may say, i would consider adding subtext/subtitled to each one to each title. It was a little difficult to understand.
There is also a lost 2003 film adaptation of the Namco game Xevious.
So many of these look so good, it's a shame they're lost ):
People always forget that Dreamworks was working on a film adaptation of Rudyard Kipling’s The White Seal. It was cancelled in its infancy in order to make Kung Fu Panda. The only remaining proof that this movie existed is that Eric Whittaker who was supposed to be the film’s composer released a piece from the film titled “The Seal Lullaby”
It's sad to see how many of Don Bluth's projects got canceled 😢
Also i would've loved to see that Sonic Underground Movie as i loved the show.
Betty Boop, Beauty and the Beast, Little Blue Whale, the Sunshine Princess, Dreaming Machine, Dracula, Betsy of the Jungle, and Can Do, Song of the Ice Whale. They sounded like good movies to see. Don Bluth's movies I would've liked to see the most, especially his version of Beauty and the Beast.
I’m actually glad that Alma was canceled because it’s too f@%#ing dark for kids
Dude i would've absolutely LOVED watching that Medusa movie over and over ahhhhh i wish she would go back to continue working on that movie
57:30 I remember reading about St. Francis back when I was new to lost media, it was kinda scary just knowing it was gone and out of hate too.
I don't know if it will even make the list but the one that hurts me is that we were going to get a klonoa movie but it got scrapped. The only thing I've seen about it was a picture of klonoa in a new outfit.
I remember reading about there being a Live-Action/Animated Nicktoon Crossover movie like the Avengers but nothing came from it.
Why not include the canceled Ray Harryhausen adaptation of War of the Worlds, and the canceled Robert Zemekis remake of Yellow Submarine?
I always eatched Thief and the Cobbler as a kid. The VHS I had however had it titled "Cobbler and the Thief". Had I known it was lost media, I would've kept the VHS
Perhaps bobby's girl being cancelled was for the best, knowing that john k was working on it
the 1930's tale of the priest one is my favorite one tbh, can't really tell why people who watched the remaining footages find it creepy
9:24 Hoho boy, did this age well... :)
15:20 what’s the name of the music playing here? Sounds really good
That concept art is by ken penders both him and ben hurst both wanted to make sonic projects ben wanted to continue satam and ken didnt want this and told sega ben was trying to sabotage the franchise
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The thief and the cobbler is also loosely based oof of that too. The thief character even originated from that series.
1. Pilot didn't become a company until 1988 according to Wikipedia and several other sites. Also they seems to have been doing things as late as 2014. 2. Clever use of Arrival of a Train. 3. Conceptual like like the ider of Strawberry Fields. Although I'm a bit hard pressed to see Maxwell as more than just a murderer. But that could be because I hate that song. I've heard one or two of the songs that have been released though I didn't know they were from some project because I've never heard of this before.
Correction: It was actually Ken Penders who came up with Sonic Armaggedon, not Ben Hurst.
edit: There are two movies I will be mad until I die over the fact they never got made, thats the Plants vs Zombies Dreamworks movie (during their Kung Fu Panda and HTTYD years) and the 90s Cats movie. I will go to the grave pissed off we never got those movies, especially because the Cats movie we did get was so bad.
Minor correction 16:03
J in spanish is pronounced similar to h when next to a vowel in english, so it's "dee•boo•hoh•s".
I'm creating a cartoon. It's called, Forgotten Tales! It's about these forgotten and obscure characters that no one remembers from media going on wacky and crazy adventures.
Edgar Rice Burroughs, not Edgar Wright Burrow.
Wait didnt tax right-offs begin after the cancelation of the batwoman movie or was there another reason?
You guys are lucky I went through the entire video to see what countries produced the most lost films on this list! Here they are:
USA - 57 (obviously)
Japan - 13
UK - 6
Mexico - 4
Russia - 4
Argentina - 3
France - 3
Brazil - 2
Italy - 2
Hong Kong - 2
Chile - 1
Estonia - 1
Germany - 1
Films produced between more than a country: 4
8:16 Fun Fact: This was brought back but in the form of a short film
Where did you find the info for each of these? I'm just curious as now I want to find out more about each of them.
I can't wait 😊 for this new video 📹 scribbles