I think the original ending for Simba’s Pride with Timon And Pumbaa moving into the Outlands to feast on it’s termite population and one of the flying insects parodying Tinker Bell could have made for a great Post-Credits scene.
3:18 Kovu wasn’t really scar’s adoptive son either. He was just his protégé or at least was GOING to be his protégé (kovu was the last cub born under scar’s reign, and if he’s around kiara’s age, that means he would’ve been a really really young, infant cub when scar died, meaning scar didn’t have much time to mentor him) there’s also a fan theory I’ve seen that imagines the possibility that Zira made it all up. The fan theory goes that after scar died, zira wanted power to rule over the pride lands herself, much like scar, so she claimed that her cub kovu was scar’s heir and subsequently groomed him for the part. It also explains why kovu’s older brother nuka wasn’t chosen as scar’s heir, because his mother zira thinks very little of him and is embarrassed by his weakness. It would’ve been easier for her to groom an infant into a strong and powerful role than her older son who was already shaping up to be a disappointment. This theory also explains why all the lionesses in the first movie were against scar. It would be more consistent if zira didn’t actually admire scar and was just hungry for power and was using him as a symbol after his death as a means of achieving that power
@@20000dino hunter x hunter manga. She’s a one time background character in chapter 378. She’s the servant of this gang leader or something idk she appears once and then never again. I just thought she was cute in that one panel
I want to know more about Zira’s backstory. She wasn’t in the books that came out decades ago, so I want to know more about her, are Nuka and Vitani Scar’s bio kids? Is Kovu even her bio kid or did both Scar and Zira adopt him?
I remember in collage someone from Disney came into our art class and showed us his portfolio, he did some background sketches from chicken little 2. He said one of the reasons it didn't end up getting made was because it didn't make as much money as Disney was hoping for. a movie doing well and being a hit doesn't always guarantee a sequel.
Chicken Little is so unnecessarily hateful. It features lots of actors I'm a fan of & it featured animals. So I wanted to love it, but it's just too cruel.
FINALLY someone mentioned Mike Mozart !! Mike Mozart also used to work for Pixar. Mike mentioned Al was a nod to himself....Mike is a serious toy collector. ❤️❤️
Mike Mozart is a living legend & hero. He is such a delight. Mr. Mozart had a guest appearance on an episode of Rebel Taxi's Pizza Party Podcast. It circulates around animation. I have been following Mr. Mozart since I joined RUclips in 2006.
The fact that he didn't even get the chance to record his lines before cancellation stings the most. But considering that Disney villains are seemingly making a comeback with Wish, maybe Willem can finally get the chance to play one someday.
The Tragedy that the "Forgotten Trio" of Disney movies experienced during the end of the 1990s is just heartbreaking. *The Emperor's New Groove,* the surviving fragments of *Kingdom of the Sun* that got less than half the recognition that it should have. *Treasure Planet,* which was released with poor timing and had to compete against both _Star Wars_ and _Harry Potter_ and *Atlantis: The Lost Empire,* which suffered the same, and despite multiple attempts to revive it as a franchise was shut down by execs. CGI basically ended the age of Traditional Animation for Western/European just as it was beginning to crescendo with these 3 movies, and the United States fell behind ever since. Japan's _Anime_ Genre has largely enveloped most of Today's Youth, and is consumed by Gen Z more than regular animation is even in Western countries. Just sad. we'll never be able to fully realize what could have been.
Time stamps: The Lion King II - 0:05 Kingdom Of The Sun - 6:19 Monsters Inc - 13:16 The Original Brother Bear - 17:14 Sweating Bullets - 20:51 Chicken Little 2 - 26:12 American Dog - 31:06 Toy Story Prequel - 32:53
Disney really shouldn't have released Treasure Planet in the same month as Harry Potter. I'm surprised you didn't mention that. Harry Potter ended up making 1 billion dollars. There's no way it was gonna compete with that. And Disney did it again with Princess and the Frog against Avatar. OH and Battle of Procyon is available on Steam now so you don't have to find a disc online.
Ever since I saw Treasure Planet in theaters, I have loved it dearly. I remember having a poster I picked up from the theater in my bedroom wall for the longest time. It's 1 of my favorites from Disney. I want more of it so badly!
I'm glad they cut out James Earl Jones's extra lines about Simba letting his family break apart and in turn, the circle of life. That doesn't make sense since that's not how the circle of life works, and it seemed like Mufasa was blaming Simba for his family turmoil, when it was more complicated than that.
The deleted scene of Zira letting go willingly has one more interesting tidbit. If you look at the final cut, you can see that the animators didn't remove her unsettling smile when she falls. The full scene shows her slowly starting to smile, say "No. Never." with this smile and then let go and fall, smiling all the way. The final cut left only the falling scene, but they didn't remove the smile. You can still see it, albeit it's easy to miss as the scene is very short.
A little off topic, but it’s still Disney related. Here’s a list of scrapped Gravity Falls episodes. Many episodes that never ended up happening have been revealed by Alex Hirsch, the crew and more. Below is a list of all the known In a writer's panel podcast that Alex Hirsch guest starred on with J. G. Quintel (creator of Regular Show), he revealed a story idea that would have gone somewhere in the middle of the first season. The episode would have been a Labyrinth parody starring Dipper as the brother who was stolen, and Mabel as the reluctant sister who would rather hang out with the David Bowie-like "Groblin" King. It would have begun with Mabel watching a Labyrinth-like movie for the nth time, and Dipper complaining about it so much, she wishes him away. The B-story follows Dipper who reveals the reason why he hates the movie is because he's terrified of puppets and how he overcomes this fear. The episode went unproduced because Disney Channel executives didn't think anyone would understand the reference. Despite that, there were several Labyrinth references thrown into Gravity Falls such as in "Mabel's Guide to Fashion" where Mabel, Grenda and Candy dress Soos up as the Goblin King for one of their "flash makeovers". Candy also had a Labyrinth type costume during Mabel's play in "Sock Opera". The idea of Dipper being afraid of puppets was somewhat hinted at in the Gravity Falls Guide Book in 2014, though it was no longer there by the time of "Sock Opera" (likely hinting that he conquered his fear). Given the episode was never made, it is unknown if David Bowie himself may have guest starred in it as he was still alive when this episode was being developed. "Sweater Off Dead" was an episode that would have been about Mabel finding a sweater at a swap meet that was haunted by the ghost of the old lady who died wearing it. She would then possess Mabel. This would lead to the gang getting trapped inside the Mystery Shack where they'd have to perform a sweater exorcism on her using knitting needles. While the episode never came to be, Alex Hirsch liked the idea of Mabel being possessed, which lead to the idea being used in "The Inconveniencing" when Mabel is possessed by the ghosts that haunted the Dusk 2 Dawn. Revealed in the commentaries for the episode "Double Dipper" in the box set, the episode was planned to be called "Party Monster", which involved Dipper summoning a monster (early ideas had it being Bill Cipher) to wreck Grunkle Stan's party, mainly for not liking crowds and partying. The episode was scrapped due to its plot making Dipper too unlikeable and due to the writers having a hard time making the plot work. The overall idea of Grunkle Stan throwing a party at the Mystery Shack though was kept and became Double Dipper, with the plot then being able to move forward by having Dipper being interested in going to a party instead of not, with his goal being to get to dance with Wendy. There was a planned episode about Dipper and Mabel selling Stan Bobbleheads door-to-door to Gravity Falls residents after Grunkle Stan ordered too many. One of the people interested in buying the bobbleheads is an old lady/mysterious doll collector who wants to make Dipper and Mabel part of her collection, having already done so with Gideon. The twins would then stop her and end up saving Gideon (after deciding not to drown him in a lake while he was asleep). While the episode was never made, it was planned to make an appearance in Journal 3 as an in book exclusive story. However it had to be cut due to the limited number of pages in the book and the decision to focus more so on using the journal to develop Ford and have him tell more of his stories. The episode idea and pages were revealed during a Gravity Falls panel at the 2016 NYCC During Houston Comic Con in 2015, Alex Hirsch revealed plots for several scrapped episodes after being asked by a fan. He shared 3 examples of episodes and plots that never came to be. The first one he revealed involved Dipper and Mabel making a commercial for a gum company and attending a Twin convention. There they realize that they're extremely boring compared to the other twins and try to gain power over them. The episode was scrapped given it made no sense and that a gum commercial being the basis of it seemed odd. The second episode Alex revealed was a camping episode. In it, Stan takes the twins on a camping trip given he thinks technology is evil and that they should get away from their phones. While camping, they get chased by a headless hunter who's cabin they stay in which is full of severed heads on the walls. The episode never ended up happening due to it being creepier than expected and them not being able to make it work. The most well known episode idea Alex revealed at the event was for a B-Plot for an episode involving Wendy. In it, Wendy gets in trouble with her father and takes her frustration out by stealing stuff in the Mystery Shack. Stan catches her but rather than firing her, decides to train her to become a pickpocket. Eventually Wendy decides they should steal a diamond from the Gravity Falls Museum. The plan fails and Wendy is arrested. However before the police call her father, Stan arrives and says he planned the robbery, resulting in his arrest and Wendy's release. Stan then tells her to use her skills for good rather than evil, citing how she is still young and shouldn't waste her life like this. The idea was never used due to timing, as the plot was only 9 minutes long and they couldn't come up with an A-plot to go with it. Michael Rianda revealed on Twitter in 2021 a lost episode planned for season two titled "Wendy's On the Road". It would have been heavily inspired by both On the Road and David Lynch. It involved Wendy having a difficult relationship with her dad, and going on a road trip with the twins, Soos and her friends to avoid thinking about it, only to end up trapped in a creepy diner. Like most Wendy episodes, it never happened for unknown reasons. In the box set commentaries, Alex revealed that originally, the 15th episode of season 2 was going to be an episode focused on her home life where she would somehow gain weather-controlling powers. This episode was actually very close to being produced before Hirsch scrapped it to write the episode that ultimately became "The Last Mabelcorn". While cleaning out his office, Alex revealed a sketch which was related to a season 2 episode about an old biker friend of Stan's coming to town, who has a Ghost Rider-esque curse. His name was Jimmy Snakes. While the episode never happened, in Scary-oke, an old biker helmet can be seen in Stan's room, which was meant to be a hint towards this episode. Alex Hirsch revealed in 2017 that he always wanted to make an episode where Grunkle Stan started his own religion called Stanentology (a play on the real life church of Scientology). His holy book would be a 300 page manual on bribery called the Brible and he would start it as a means to get a tax break. The legal department was not pleased with it so it never did become a real episode And finally, revealed in the box set commentary for the finale, Alex Hirsch revealed that there was a plan for an epilogue episode to follow up after the events of Weirdmageddon. The episode would follow Dipper and Mabel packing and reminiscing about their time in Gravity Falls the day before they are to leave. Blendin would then appear and warn them about time anomaly bubbles still floating around the town. Eventually, the twins somehow fall into one and are transported to the first day they arrived in Gravity Falls (before the events of "Tourist Trapped"). They see how much they were not excited about being there and see how far they had come in their development. The idea was eventually not used and Blendin's fate would end up being different as well as the twins' final days in the town. Sorry if this comment was too long to read, but I just wanted to share these interesting topics to everyone.
I would love if Toy Story 5 explores this prequel storyline, possibly in the form of a montage or flashback akin to When She Loved Me or Lotsos backstory. It would be really interesting for the 5th film to explain why Woody didn’t know about his own franchise or possibly suffer delusions similar to Buzz, maybe reveal what makes toys come to life to begin with if the film shows the factory where Woody came from? Who knows, we’ll just have to see what story avenue Pixar takes with the 5th film.
I'm positive that the bit of Zira letting go of the rock made it to early releases of Lion King 2, and was edited later to be her just slipping. I'm so incredibly sure that was in the version I watched as a kid, because I remember talking about how I was convinced Zira wasn't actually dead because she'd let go on purpose, and I know I'd have gotten it very early on in it's release, because I was FIXATED on TLK as a kid. I'll have to dig around to see if I can find my old copy.
In the VHS version I have, the scene is poorly edited. It goes from Kiara offering to save Zira to a hard cut of Zira looking worried and zooming in on her face. Then there's the sound of her slipping but we don't see it and when the shot shows Zira falling, she has a smile on her face which matches with the smile she has in the version of her letting go. As a kid I was always so sure Zira let go herself because of that smile. That's not the face of someone slipping. My theory is that they fully animated the scene of Zira letting go herself and just used the end part of her falling with her smiling and destroyed the other finished footage to not let it be seen as suicide. The only full scene surviving is the rough sketches.
I watched The Sword in the Stone a month ago on Disney +, and it had this small featurette on an alternate version of the story that was more of a dark sword and sorcery tale instead of the inspirational speech lesson in education that we wound up getting. Among other things, Mad Madam Mim was going to be a darker villain in the vein of Maleficent that would have been well involved in the plot instead of appearing 20 minutes towards the end of the film and being a wacky character. I don't know how much of that treatment exists, but that's all they showed in an official capacity. Also, there were two attempts at a Hercules movie that was about the Trojan War. One was the original film concept, the other was a cancelled DTV sequel film. While I don't know how much of either treatment was finalized, the Trojan War concept DID make it into the Hercules cartoon series. Only it was a rivalry between the Trojan and Athenian high schools, as Helen of Try was a student at Herc's Athenian school, and it was later blown out of proportion by reporter Homer (yes, the Odyssey guy AND hilariously played by Dan Castelleneta, but doing a 50's reporter voice).
10:54 - "Y'know. I'm something of a pirate myself". And upon the film's scrapping: "You can't do this to me... YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED?!". Also, Pete Docter and Lee Unkirch were joined by an uncredited David Silverman (director on 'The Simpsons') in the 'Monsters Inc' directing chair.
I would've loved to have seen that Toy Story stuff in a finished film, I always wondered how the main character of Woody's Roundup would've been such an impossible-to-find toy when you'd think he would've been one of the most common toys based on the show.
Woody’s rarity had more to do with the condition that he was in when Al found him. He’s a vintage toy from the 1950s that was widely produced, but being made of cloth and vinyl was easily prone to damage and degradation, on top of having loose parts like the hat that a child could easily lose. Finding a Woody doll, in the wild after so long, and having only minor damage to it that could easily be repaired by a skilled person, is what made him so rare.
@@prismavoid3764 It’s honestly a really well written depiction of real life toy collecting. Things from the 70s and 80s in near mint condition or complete in box (CIB) have way more value now because so few of them are out there.
I'm disappointed that we never got Sweating Bullets and Kingdom of the Sun. While I can see why Disney took the latter in a different direction, I think the former would've been a far better movie while the latter could've been a mini series.
honestly its hurt that the fact that treasure planet 2 was abandoned after the first filmed bombed and never went the distance after its bombed results honestly this could've Disney best 2000s success that as it would've made a new animated sci fi Genra.
I'm also annoyed Atlantis was supposed to be a television cartoon, but only had 3 episodes made and cobbled together into a DTV. They even planned a Gargoyles crossover episode that never got made. Though at least it got something while Treasure Planet didn't.
@@parkerthomson7130 I just said that. I think it was Desdemona was supposed to be in an episode. It's been some time since I first read the details. Speaking of lost Disney cartoons, I remember that there was going to be some sort of goofy seafaring cartoon just as CN greenlit Flapjack. I guess the Flapjack crew knew about this and got Disney to back down because the episode "Panfake" was made to throw shade at Disney for it. Can't remember what the name of it was, though. But weird the only thing that exists of it is another cartoon entirely.
The Tragedy that the "Forgotten Trio" of Disney movies experienced during the end of the 1990s is just heartbreaking. *The Emperor's New Groove,* the surviving fragments of *Kingdom of the Sun* that got less than half the recognition that it should have. *Treasure Planet,* which was released with poor timing and had to compete against both _Star Wars_ and _Harry Potter_ and *Atlantis: The Lost Empire,* which suffered the same, and despite multiple attempts to revive it as a franchise was shut down by execs. CGI basically ended the age of Traditional Animation for Western/European just as it was beginning to crescendo with these 3 movies, and the United States fell behind ever since. Japan's _Anime_ Genre has largely enveloped most of Today's Youth, and is consumed by Gen Z more than cartoon-style animation is even in Western countries. Just sad. we'll never be able to fully realize what could have been.
Treasure Planet is my all time favorite Disney movie. Always bummed me out how underrated it was back then. Glad it's gotten some of the recognition it deserves now, but the whole thing about the tossed sequel hurts 😢
this is pure speculation on my part but my thoughts on the original Lion King 2 is that we still kept the Romeo & Juilet theme but with Timon & his unamed love
You forgot to mention the mostly-lost song for Brother Bear titled "This Can't Be My Destiny", which still isn't available in its entirety. Anyway, Speeding Bullet would have been a much better theatrical movie than Home on the Range (which would work better as a TV series).
The Emperor's New Groove is literally the last Disney movie I saw in a theater. I did like it, but I don't remember much about it. Mike Mozart from TheToyChannel? Who quit RUclips to sell Disney fanart & miraculously never got sued over it?
So you’re telling me the Woody doll was not only handed down from Andy’s late father (which I knew already), but he was one-of-a-kind, and Andy STILL gave him to some random kid who didn’t even appreciate Woody anyway? Jesus Christ. I know a lot of people are angry at Toy Story 4 but frankly you should be angry at Toy Story 3 as well. I mean, FFS it’s DISNEY doing the “growing up means giving up everything childish!” like um excuse me who do you think is spending all their money on your parks and merch. Sorry about that rant but Woody didn’t deserve this shit and neither did Andy’s dad.
I don't have a problem with Andy giving Woody away at the end of what should've been the last Toy Story movie, since this backstory is not actually in the movies, and IIRC, Andy didn't know Woody was a super rare and valuable toy. But, yeah, WITH the backstory that Woody is the last thing Andy's father gave him on his deathbed, then it is horrible.
We were robbed of Treasure Planet content the most. That and the Gremlin movie. If you don't get it, in Epic Mickey, those small green bird-like things that can fly (like Gus) were originally from a scrapped Disney movie from I'm pretty sure the Golden Age, but only one image exists but I forgot what it's supposed to have been
I don't think Rotten Tomatoes is really a good indicator of how a straight-to-video sequel was received in 1998. Many print reviews from that era have yet to make online databases, for the simple reason that they were never published online. Also, The Jungle Book 2 was theatrical, not DTV.
I never actually saw the original Lion King, and cause I didn't understand how Roman numerals worked as a kid I always assumed "Simba's Pride" was just the subtitle. Meh, I liked it enough that I plan to call my future daughter Kiara; it's both a Swahili and Irish name so it works.
ngl i remeber watching a finding nemo 2 play , which wasn't finding dori , since the play was about finding nemos mum and discovering she isnt dead , idk why but i always remeber it playing at marina di venecia , a camping sight that me and my family are very fond of and travel a lot to. idk why i was always convinced that finding dori was the third film / story . maybe my little child brain thought it was finding nemo but oh well.
If I remember correctly, one of the people who documented the Kingdom of the Sun production was the wife of Sting, who was providing the soundtrack or at least a few songs to the movie.
19:03 At first I was like, "Wait that sounds like Brave." And then I realized, after all these years, that Brother Bear and Brave have the same fucking plot
I remember watching lion king 2 over and over again. I even told my mom if I can name my sister Kiara, which is her official name. This movie is one of my favorites.
you never will. welcome to the 2020s; the decade where everything's inclusive and PC and you can't crack good jokes or have any fun without "offending" someone. also, everything's unaffordable so you won't be seeing any movies at all; enjoy working 90+ hours a week just to pay housing/utility costs, with no money left over for savings, food, or gas.
Excluding Kingdom of the Sun and Zira's death and maybe Treasure Planet 2 I don't really think we missed out on much. That said, this was still extremely interesting.
22:37 this reminds me of “Charles goodnight and the goodnight trail “ I might have that memory mixed but Ik there’s some kinda folk lore I grew up with 😅
I already commented this in a reply somewhere where but might as well repeat it, While the story mike mozart told us very moving I can't in all good conscience believe him over the writers who have denied his tale , as they where there during the actual production. Like it could be true but seeing how much toy story 1 changed from conception to final story, it's very very hard to believe the toy story 2 inspired backstory with Al and Woody's Roundup to be possible.
A lot of the lost media community considerds unreleased stuff lost media which I find irrtating. I don't see how it's lost media if it was never released.
@@mattwolf7698 I kind of get it. Unreleased storyboards are technically lost media. But I like lost media for the memory aspect. It’s a lot more interesting in my opinion
Disney actually made a previous animated short adaptation of Chicken Little in the 1940s. I won't say anymore about it so as to not spoil it, but you can find it online.
All these alternate versions and sequels sound entertaining to watch at today's time. I gotta say that the younger bear Coda is a mistake of being the replacement of Grizz, he was just annoying. 😆 Tug's design is awesome of course.
30:47 actualy they made tied in with an videogame that was released after both the movie and game adaptation. So is sort of made as sequel but used as an videogame form. none the less the gameplay took farly inspiration from later ratchet and clank tools of destructions.
I genuinely would have loved to have seen that Sweatin' Bullets story and the original Brother Bear story. I love what we got but I always felt a little like it was a story that should come after something else.
i would like for to make a video of the title i call it the lost village roadshow pictures and sailor moon movie trilogy distribution media because it would be interestingly cool to have and mentioned sailor moon and like the first anime in your channel with a sailor moon theory that came to me in my mind when i was looking on what other companies that the sailor moon movie trilogy was released overseas on imdb (regardless if you heard or ever seen or ever a fan of sailor moon or not) just wondering or someone else who knows sailor moon movie trilogy and village roadshow pictures can make a theory video of it instead
It’s unfortunate that we probably won’t ever see that Toy Story prequel ever as while I could see Pixar very much jumping around the Polio subject it just has such a Gut wrenching but powerful ending that cannot be ignored and is extremely hard to take in also I wish we had gotten treasure planet 2 as the story was so much more expensive introducing two incredible new characters one played by Willem Defoe that could have even rivaled the phantom menace it’s tough looking at the what if’s that never happened and never will happen
Bro I seen some of those scenes in the VHS or dvd I don’t own it anymore but I do remember some of the scene like Kiara helpin Zera? Like that was in the film at one point
I think the original ending for Simba’s Pride with Timon And Pumbaa moving into the Outlands to feast on it’s termite population and one of the flying insects parodying Tinker Bell could have made for a great Post-Credits scene.
Yep!
3:18 Kovu wasn’t really scar’s adoptive son either. He was just his protégé or at least was GOING to be his protégé (kovu was the last cub born under scar’s reign, and if he’s around kiara’s age, that means he would’ve been a really really young, infant cub when scar died, meaning scar didn’t have much time to mentor him) there’s also a fan theory I’ve seen that imagines the possibility that Zira made it all up. The fan theory goes that after scar died, zira wanted power to rule over the pride lands herself, much like scar, so she claimed that her cub kovu was scar’s heir and subsequently groomed him for the part. It also explains why kovu’s older brother nuka wasn’t chosen as scar’s heir, because his mother zira thinks very little of him and is embarrassed by his weakness. It would’ve been easier for her to groom an infant into a strong and powerful role than her older son who was already shaping up to be a disappointment. This theory also explains why all the lionesses in the first movie were against scar. It would be more consistent if zira didn’t actually admire scar and was just hungry for power and was using him as a symbol after his death as a means of achieving that power
Hey, where is your profile pic from ?
@@20000dino hunter x hunter manga. She’s a one time background character in chapter 378. She’s the servant of this gang leader or something idk she appears once and then never again. I just thought she was cute in that one panel
I want to know more about Zira’s backstory. She wasn’t in the books that came out decades ago, so I want to know more about her, are Nuka and Vitani Scar’s bio kids? Is Kovu even her bio kid or did both Scar and Zira adopt him?
I remember in collage someone from Disney came into our art class and showed us his portfolio, he did some background sketches from chicken little 2. He said one of the reasons it didn't end up getting made was because it didn't make as much money as Disney was hoping for. a movie doing well and being a hit doesn't always guarantee a sequel.
Chicken Little is so unnecessarily hateful. It features lots of actors I'm a fan of & it featured animals. So I wanted to love it, but it's just too cruel.
@@SpellboundWolf True, everyone is so horrible to him for no reason, especially his own father!
FINALLY someone mentioned Mike Mozart !! Mike Mozart also used to work for Pixar. Mike mentioned Al was a nod to himself....Mike is a serious toy collector. ❤️❤️
MIKE MOZART USED TO WORK FOR PIXAR!? Hoooly shit two pillars of my childhood are more connected than I thought
Holy shit.
@@TankTheArtist777- Wow
He never mentioned that even during his Toy Story videos
I remember him talking about this on the Pizza Party Podcast.
Mike Mozart is a living legend & hero. He is such a delight. Mr. Mozart had a guest appearance on an episode of Rebel Taxi's Pizza Party Podcast. It circulates around animation. I have been following Mr. Mozart since I joined RUclips in 2006.
Chicken Little being a financial hit while Treasure Planet was a flop is why you can never measure the quality of a film by how much money it makes.
Exactly.
True!
Agreed.
Tresure Planet is medicore at best. The movie is so bloated.
@@fshoaps Shut up
It’s a shame we never got Treasure Planet 2. William Dafoe as Ironbeard sounds perfect!
But at least we got him as the Green Goblin in the Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies.
The fact that he didn't even get the chance to record his lines before cancellation stings the most. But considering that Disney villains are seemingly making a comeback with Wish, maybe Willem can finally get the chance to play one someday.
The Tragedy that the "Forgotten Trio" of Disney movies experienced during the end of the 1990s is just heartbreaking.
*The Emperor's New Groove,* the surviving fragments of *Kingdom of the Sun* that got less than half the recognition that it should have.
*Treasure Planet,* which was released with poor timing and had to compete against both _Star Wars_ and _Harry Potter_
and *Atlantis: The Lost Empire,* which suffered the same, and despite multiple attempts to revive it as a franchise was shut down by execs.
CGI basically ended the age of Traditional Animation for Western/European just as it was beginning to crescendo with these 3 movies, and the United States fell behind ever since. Japan's _Anime_ Genre has largely enveloped most of Today's Youth, and is consumed by Gen Z more than regular animation is even in Western countries.
Just sad. we'll never be able to fully realize what could have been.
Willem*
can you imagine alfred molina voicing a new iconic musical hand drawn Disney villain?
Time stamps:
The Lion King II - 0:05
Kingdom Of The Sun - 6:19
Monsters Inc - 13:16
The Original Brother Bear - 17:14
Sweating Bullets - 20:51
Chicken Little 2 - 26:12
American Dog - 31:06
Toy Story Prequel - 32:53
08:48 Treasure Planet
Disney really shouldn't have released Treasure Planet in the same month as Harry Potter. I'm surprised you didn't mention that. Harry Potter ended up making 1 billion dollars. There's no way it was gonna compete with that. And Disney did it again with Princess and the Frog against Avatar.
OH and Battle of Procyon is available on Steam now so you don't have to find a disc online.
Ever since I saw Treasure Planet in theaters, I have loved it dearly. I remember having a poster I picked up from the theater in my bedroom wall for the longest time. It's 1 of my favorites from Disney. I want more of it so badly!
That original draft of chicken little sounds like an asylum mockbuster.
And the final one doesn’t?
I'm glad they cut out James Earl Jones's extra lines about Simba letting his family break apart and in turn, the circle of life. That doesn't make sense since that's not how the circle of life works, and it seemed like Mufasa was blaming Simba for his family turmoil, when it was more complicated than that.
The deleted scene of Zira letting go willingly has one more interesting tidbit. If you look at the final cut, you can see that the animators didn't remove her unsettling smile when she falls. The full scene shows her slowly starting to smile, say "No. Never." with this smile and then let go and fall, smiling all the way. The final cut left only the falling scene, but they didn't remove the smile. You can still see it, albeit it's easy to miss as the scene is very short.
Loved hearing about The Lion King 2 and that last one about Toy Story was incredible, first I've heard of it!
A little off topic, but it’s still Disney related. Here’s a list of scrapped Gravity Falls episodes. Many episodes that never ended up happening have been revealed by Alex Hirsch, the crew and more. Below is a list of all the known
In a writer's panel podcast that Alex Hirsch guest starred on with J. G. Quintel (creator of Regular Show), he revealed a story idea that would have gone somewhere in the middle of the first season. The episode would have been a Labyrinth parody starring Dipper as the brother who was stolen, and Mabel as the reluctant sister who would rather hang out with the David Bowie-like "Groblin" King. It would have begun with Mabel watching a Labyrinth-like movie for the nth time, and Dipper complaining about it so much, she wishes him away. The B-story follows Dipper who reveals the reason why he hates the movie is because he's terrified of puppets and how he overcomes this fear. The episode went unproduced because Disney Channel executives didn't think anyone would understand the reference. Despite that, there were several Labyrinth references thrown into Gravity Falls such as in "Mabel's Guide to Fashion" where Mabel, Grenda and Candy dress Soos up as the Goblin King for one of their "flash makeovers". Candy also had a Labyrinth type costume during Mabel's play in "Sock Opera". The idea of Dipper being afraid of puppets was somewhat hinted at in the Gravity Falls Guide Book in 2014, though it was no longer there by the time of "Sock Opera" (likely hinting that he conquered his fear). Given the episode was never made, it is unknown if David Bowie himself may have guest starred in it as he was still alive when this episode was being developed.
"Sweater Off Dead" was an episode that would have been about Mabel finding a sweater at a swap meet that was haunted by the ghost of the old lady who died wearing it. She would then possess Mabel. This would lead to the gang getting trapped inside the Mystery Shack where they'd have to perform a sweater exorcism on her using knitting needles. While the episode never came to be, Alex Hirsch liked the idea of Mabel being possessed, which lead to the idea being used in "The Inconveniencing" when Mabel is possessed by the ghosts that haunted the Dusk 2 Dawn.
Revealed in the commentaries for the episode "Double Dipper" in the box set, the episode was planned to be called "Party Monster", which involved Dipper summoning a monster (early ideas had it being Bill Cipher) to wreck Grunkle Stan's party, mainly for not liking crowds and partying. The episode was scrapped due to its plot making Dipper too unlikeable and due to the writers having a hard time making the plot work. The overall idea of Grunkle Stan throwing a party at the Mystery Shack though was kept and became Double Dipper, with the plot then being able to move forward by having Dipper being interested in going to a party instead of not, with his goal being to get to dance with Wendy.
There was a planned episode about Dipper and Mabel selling Stan Bobbleheads door-to-door to Gravity Falls residents after Grunkle Stan ordered too many. One of the people interested in buying the bobbleheads is an old lady/mysterious doll collector who wants to make Dipper and Mabel part of her collection, having already done so with Gideon. The twins would then stop her and end up saving Gideon (after deciding not to drown him in a lake while he was asleep). While the episode was never made, it was planned to make an appearance in Journal 3 as an in book exclusive story. However it had to be cut due to the limited number of pages in the book and the decision to focus more so on using the journal to develop Ford and have him tell more of his stories. The episode idea and pages were revealed during a Gravity Falls panel at the 2016 NYCC
During Houston Comic Con in 2015, Alex Hirsch revealed plots for several scrapped episodes after being asked by a fan. He shared 3 examples of episodes and plots that never came to be.
The first one he revealed involved Dipper and Mabel making a commercial for a gum company and attending a Twin convention. There they realize that they're extremely boring compared to the other twins and try to gain power over them. The episode was scrapped given it made no sense and that a gum commercial being the basis of it seemed odd.
The second episode Alex revealed was a camping episode. In it, Stan takes the twins on a camping trip given he thinks technology is evil and that they should get away from their phones. While camping, they get chased by a headless hunter who's cabin they stay in which is full of severed heads on the walls. The episode never ended up happening due to it being creepier than expected and them not being able to make it work.
The most well known episode idea Alex revealed at the event was for a B-Plot for an episode involving Wendy. In it, Wendy gets in trouble with her father and takes her frustration out by stealing stuff in the Mystery Shack. Stan catches her but rather than firing her, decides to train her to become a pickpocket. Eventually Wendy decides they should steal a diamond from the Gravity Falls Museum. The plan fails and Wendy is arrested. However before the police call her father, Stan arrives and says he planned the robbery, resulting in his arrest and Wendy's release. Stan then tells her to use her skills for good rather than evil, citing how she is still young and shouldn't waste her life like this. The idea was never used due to timing, as the plot was only 9 minutes long and they couldn't come up with an A-plot to go with it.
Michael Rianda revealed on Twitter in 2021 a lost episode planned for season two titled "Wendy's On the Road". It would have been heavily inspired by both On the Road and David Lynch. It involved Wendy having a difficult relationship with her dad, and going on a road trip with the twins, Soos and her friends to avoid thinking about it, only to end up trapped in a creepy diner. Like most Wendy episodes, it never happened for unknown reasons.
In the box set commentaries, Alex revealed that originally, the 15th episode of season 2 was going to be an episode focused on her home life where she would somehow gain weather-controlling powers. This episode was actually very close to being produced before Hirsch scrapped it to write the episode that ultimately became "The Last Mabelcorn".
While cleaning out his office, Alex revealed a sketch which was related to a season 2 episode about an old biker friend of Stan's coming to town, who has a Ghost Rider-esque curse. His name was Jimmy Snakes. While the episode never happened, in Scary-oke, an old biker helmet can be seen in Stan's room, which was meant to be a hint towards this episode.
Alex Hirsch revealed in 2017 that he always wanted to make an episode where Grunkle Stan started his own religion called Stanentology (a play on the real life church of Scientology). His holy book would be a 300 page manual on bribery called the Brible and he would start it as a means to get a tax break. The legal department was not pleased with it so it never did become a real episode
And finally, revealed in the box set commentary for the finale, Alex Hirsch revealed that there was a plan for an epilogue episode to follow up after the events of Weirdmageddon. The episode would follow Dipper and Mabel packing and reminiscing about their time in Gravity Falls the day before they are to leave. Blendin would then appear and warn them about time anomaly bubbles still floating around the town. Eventually, the twins somehow fall into one and are transported to the first day they arrived in Gravity Falls (before the events of "Tourist Trapped"). They see how much they were not excited about being there and see how far they had come in their development. The idea was eventually not used and Blendin's fate would end up being different as well as the twins' final days in the town.
Sorry if this comment was too long to read, but I just wanted to share these interesting topics to everyone.
interesting stuff.
Dude that Stanentology episode sounded perfect.
I would love if Toy Story 5 explores this prequel storyline, possibly in the form of a montage or flashback akin to When She Loved Me or Lotsos backstory. It would be really interesting for the 5th film to explain why Woody didn’t know about his own franchise or possibly suffer delusions similar to Buzz, maybe reveal what makes toys come to life to begin with if the film shows the factory where Woody came from? Who knows, we’ll just have to see what story avenue Pixar takes with the 5th film.
You can see bits of this alternate cut of Home on the Range w/ Maggie already at the farm in the trailers.
That movie is one of my favorites.
I'm positive that the bit of Zira letting go of the rock made it to early releases of Lion King 2, and was edited later to be her just slipping. I'm so incredibly sure that was in the version I watched as a kid, because I remember talking about how I was convinced Zira wasn't actually dead because she'd let go on purpose, and I know I'd have gotten it very early on in it's release, because I was FIXATED on TLK as a kid. I'll have to dig around to see if I can find my old copy.
In the VHS version I have, the scene is poorly edited. It goes from Kiara offering to save Zira to a hard cut of Zira looking worried and zooming in on her face. Then there's the sound of her slipping but we don't see it and when the shot shows Zira falling, she has a smile on her face which matches with the smile she has in the version of her letting go.
As a kid I was always so sure Zira let go herself because of that smile. That's not the face of someone slipping. My theory is that they fully animated the scene of Zira letting go herself and just used the end part of her falling with her smiling and destroyed the other finished footage to not let it be seen as suicide. The only full scene surviving is the rough sketches.
I watched The Sword in the Stone a month ago on Disney +, and it had this small featurette on an alternate version of the story that was more of a dark sword and sorcery tale instead of the inspirational speech lesson in education that we wound up getting. Among other things, Mad Madam Mim was going to be a darker villain in the vein of Maleficent that would have been well involved in the plot instead of appearing 20 minutes towards the end of the film and being a wacky character. I don't know how much of that treatment exists, but that's all they showed in an official capacity. Also, there were two attempts at a Hercules movie that was about the Trojan War. One was the original film concept, the other was a cancelled DTV sequel film. While I don't know how much of either treatment was finalized, the Trojan War concept DID make it into the Hercules cartoon series. Only it was a rivalry between the Trojan and Athenian high schools, as Helen of Try was a student at Herc's Athenian school, and it was later blown out of proportion by reporter Homer (yes, the Odyssey guy AND hilariously played by Dan Castelleneta, but doing a 50's reporter voice).
I think there needs to be a part 2, focused more on stuff from Walt’s lifetime, like the 1939 Alice in Wonderland.
10:54 - "Y'know. I'm something of a pirate myself". And upon the film's scrapping: "You can't do this to me... YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED?!".
Also, Pete Docter and Lee Unkirch were joined by an uncredited David Silverman (director on 'The Simpsons') in the 'Monsters Inc' directing chair.
I would give anything to watch the Kingdom of the sun Workprint, or at least a finished version of the snuff out the light scene
I would've loved to have seen that Toy Story stuff in a finished film, I always wondered how the main character of Woody's Roundup would've been such an impossible-to-find toy when you'd think he would've been one of the most common toys based on the show.
Woody’s rarity had more to do with the condition that he was in when Al found him. He’s a vintage toy from the 1950s that was widely produced, but being made of cloth and vinyl was easily prone to damage and degradation, on top of having loose parts like the hat that a child could easily lose. Finding a Woody doll, in the wild after so long, and having only minor damage to it that could easily be repaired by a skilled person, is what made him so rare.
@@gabepollock1641 I see! I hadn't considered the "wear and tear" aspect - haven't seen the film in years at this point
@@prismavoid3764 It’s honestly a really well written depiction of real life toy collecting. Things from the 70s and 80s in near mint condition or complete in box (CIB) have way more value now because so few of them are out there.
I'm disappointed that we never got Sweating Bullets and Kingdom of the Sun. While I can see why Disney took the latter in a different direction, I think the former would've been a far better movie while the latter could've been a mini series.
Sweating bullets seemed like such a better concept than home at the range. All the concept art looked so cool too.
honestly its hurt that the fact that treasure planet 2 was abandoned after the first filmed bombed and never went the distance after its bombed results honestly this could've Disney best 2000s success that as it would've made a new animated sci fi Genra.
Dumbo 2 was also abandoned after having been promoted on some Disney home releases, it's too bad as that one looked interesting.
I'm also annoyed Atlantis was supposed to be a television cartoon, but only had 3 episodes made and cobbled together into a DTV. They even planned a Gargoyles crossover episode that never got made. Though at least it got something while Treasure Planet didn't.
@@mightyfilm there was supposed to be a Gargoyles crossover
@@parkerthomson7130 I just said that. I think it was Desdemona was supposed to be in an episode. It's been some time since I first read the details.
Speaking of lost Disney cartoons, I remember that there was going to be some sort of goofy seafaring cartoon just as CN greenlit Flapjack. I guess the Flapjack crew knew about this and got Disney to back down because the episode "Panfake" was made to throw shade at Disney for it. Can't remember what the name of it was, though. But weird the only thing that exists of it is another cartoon entirely.
The Tragedy that the "Forgotten Trio" of Disney movies experienced during the end of the 1990s is just heartbreaking.
*The Emperor's New Groove,* the surviving fragments of *Kingdom of the Sun* that got less than half the recognition that it should have.
*Treasure Planet,* which was released with poor timing and had to compete against both _Star Wars_ and _Harry Potter_
and *Atlantis: The Lost Empire,* which suffered the same, and despite multiple attempts to revive it as a franchise was shut down by execs.
CGI basically ended the age of Traditional Animation for Western/European just as it was beginning to crescendo with these 3 movies, and the United States fell behind ever since. Japan's _Anime_ Genre has largely enveloped most of Today's Youth, and is consumed by Gen Z more than cartoon-style animation is even in Western countries.
Just sad. we'll never be able to fully realize what could have been.
Realizing they reused monsters in Monster's Inc feels just like Andy's friends all being clones of Andy with different clothes
I forgot Andy's friends existed lol.
There was a video game sequel to Chicken Little! How did you not learn about it when doing research for this?
Treasure Planet is my all time favorite Disney movie. Always bummed me out how underrated it was back then. Glad it's gotten some of the recognition it deserves now, but the whole thing about the tossed sequel hurts 😢
this is pure speculation on my part but my thoughts on the original Lion King 2 is that we still kept the Romeo & Juilet theme but with Timon & his unamed love
The thumbnail without context is ... something else lol
The pronunciation of "Joaquin".
I never got why they took away Zira’s suicide. They did have an attempted suicide in the Incredibles later on, and a heck ton of murder
Home On The Range (2004) is one of my favorite movies.
Holy sh!t that Monsters Inc explosion, I grew up with the censored version.
The Emperor's New Groove is a masterpiece, but I would anything pay to see a fully finished Kingdom Of The Sun movie.
You forgot to mention the mostly-lost song for Brother Bear titled "This Can't Be My Destiny", which still isn't available in its entirety.
Anyway, Speeding Bullet would have been a much better theatrical movie than Home on the Range (which would work better as a TV series).
Kingdom of the Sun is one of the greatest losses to the Disney revival
The Emperor's New Groove is literally the last Disney movie I saw in a theater. I did like it, but I don't remember much about it.
Mike Mozart from TheToyChannel? Who quit RUclips to sell Disney fanart & miraculously never got sued over it?
Well, depends on how he did it
So you’re telling me the Woody doll was not only handed down from Andy’s late father (which I knew already), but he was one-of-a-kind, and Andy STILL gave him to some random kid who didn’t even appreciate Woody anyway? Jesus Christ. I know a lot of people are angry at Toy Story 4 but frankly you should be angry at Toy Story 3 as well. I mean, FFS it’s DISNEY doing the “growing up means giving up everything childish!” like um excuse me who do you think is spending all their money on your parks and merch. Sorry about that rant but Woody didn’t deserve this shit and neither did Andy’s dad.
I don't have a problem with Andy giving Woody away at the end of what should've been the last Toy Story movie, since this backstory is not actually in the movies, and IIRC, Andy didn't know Woody was a super rare and valuable toy.
But, yeah, WITH the backstory that Woody is the last thing Andy's father gave him on his deathbed, then it is horrible.
We were robbed of Treasure Planet content the most. That and the Gremlin movie.
If you don't get it, in Epic Mickey, those small green bird-like things that can fly (like Gus) were originally from a scrapped Disney movie from I'm pretty sure the Golden Age, but only one image exists but I forgot what it's supposed to have been
I don't think Rotten Tomatoes is really a good indicator of how a straight-to-video sequel was received in 1998. Many print reviews from that era have yet to make online databases, for the simple reason that they were never published online.
Also, The Jungle Book 2 was theatrical, not DTV.
What if The Jungle Book had a direct-to-video sequel? It'll be made for 1995 as The Second Jungle Book.
@@benrobson3442 It was never planned so who cares?
You know Home on the Range was the last 2D Disney animated feature until 2009’s The Princess and the Frog and 2011’s Winnie the Pooh
I never actually saw the original Lion King, and cause I didn't understand how Roman numerals worked as a kid I always assumed "Simba's Pride" was just the subtitle.
Meh, I liked it enough that I plan to call my future daughter Kiara; it's both a Swahili and Irish name so it works.
ngl i remeber watching a finding nemo 2 play , which wasn't finding dori , since the play was about finding nemos mum and discovering she isnt dead , idk why but i always remeber it playing at marina di venecia , a camping sight that me and my family are very fond of and travel a lot to. idk why i was always convinced that finding dori was the third film / story . maybe my little child brain thought it was finding nemo but oh well.
I would've loved to see Kingdom of the Sun in its entirety.
If I remember correctly, one of the people who documented the Kingdom of the Sun production was the wife of Sting, who was providing the soundtrack or at least a few songs to the movie.
I had no idea that the lion King had this much lore, it could be its own comic and TV show for crying out loud, and I mean a good TV show
3:22 I knew that he was going to talk about this fact
19:03
At first I was like, "Wait that sounds like Brave."
And then I realized, after all these years, that Brother Bear and Brave have the same fucking plot
I remember watching lion king 2 over and over again. I even told my mom if I can name my sister Kiara, which is her official name. This movie is one of my favorites.
Now I really want to see a Treasure planet 2 😭
you never will.
welcome to the 2020s; the decade where everything's inclusive and PC and you can't crack good jokes or have any fun without "offending" someone.
also, everything's unaffordable so you won't be seeing any movies at all; enjoy working 90+ hours a week just to pay housing/utility costs, with no money left over for savings, food, or gas.
@@hobomike6935 BASED AND TRUTH.
Treasure planet is one of my awe movies I watch as childhood
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Chicken Little should have been a Saturday morning cartoon
Lion King 2 is similar to Madagascar Escape Africa released 10 years later in 2008
Excluding Kingdom of the Sun and Zira's death and maybe Treasure Planet 2 I don't really think we missed out on much. That said, this was still extremely interesting.
The Toy Story prequel sounded very promising.
What a somber, but sweet note to end on.
Also, The Jungle Book 2 was released theatrically, not straight to video.
22:37 this reminds me of “Charles goodnight and the goodnight trail “ I might have that memory mixed but Ik there’s some kinda folk lore I grew up with 😅
The Lion King 2: The Search for Kopa would just have a love interest for Zazu.
Damn. I never thought I would want a prequel to Toy Story until now.
I already commented this in a reply somewhere where but might as well repeat it, While the story mike mozart told us very moving I can't in all good conscience believe him over the writers who have denied his tale , as they where there during the actual production. Like it could be true but seeing how much toy story 1 changed from conception to final story, it's very very hard to believe the toy story 2 inspired backstory with Al and Woody's Roundup to be possible.
I wasn't prepared to board the Feels Train today. All aboooard. 🥺
I wonder if there's any info on the Meet the Robinsons sequel that was also cancelled when Lasseter entered the picture 🤔
19:29 Ah yes, Drakin Phoenix and Marken Clyde Dunkin...
Also pronounces "sweating" as "sweeting".
I don't know about you but I think they should bring the Toy Story prequel movie back into production
I love home on the range so much
That thumbnail scares me
3:34 and that's how Simba's house lost control of Spain but became the kings of The Lands of the Crown of Saint Stephen.
This video is heavy on the unreleased content. It's fine for a bit but this barely feels like a lost media videa
A lot of the lost media community considerds unreleased stuff lost media which I find irrtating. I don't see how it's lost media if it was never released.
@@mattwolf7698 I kind of get it. Unreleased storyboards are technically lost media. But I like lost media for the memory aspect. It’s a lot more interesting in my opinion
I think it’s okay in moderation but this is too much. Also I support looking for unaired pilots
The OG Chicken Little movie sounds like it would've been much better than the one we got.
Disney actually made a previous animated short adaptation of Chicken Little in the 1940s. I won't say anymore about it so as to not spoil it, but you can find it online.
Yeah, it feels like we're in the alternate universe with the weird alien version of Chicken Little.
@@KasumiKenshirou I'm aware of that. I meant the original story of the 2000s movie.
31:32 I love the design of this group from American Dog.
All these alternate versions and sequels sound entertaining to watch at today's time.
I gotta say that the younger bear Coda is a mistake of being the replacement of Grizz, he was just annoying. 😆 Tug's design is awesome of course.
Lion King 2 is my favorite movie of all time so this is awesome!
Why?
30:47 actualy they made tied in with an videogame that was released after both the movie and game adaptation. So is sort of made as sequel but used as an videogame form. none the less the gameplay took farly inspiration from later ratchet and clank tools of destructions.
They say adopted but we all call BS.
Man that backstory to Toy Story is super depressing
the thumbnail looks like mike is well ummm, doing "it" with the Lion (which I don't know the name of) with the twin tower in the back, oh god.
Bruh, the original plot for Chicken Little when he was a girl sounds better than the one we actually got
I genuinely would have loved to have seen that Sweatin' Bullets story and the original Brother Bear story. I love what we got but I always felt a little like it was a story that should come after something else.
It blows my mind that 'Sweating Bullets' somehow became 'Home on the Range'. They should have stuck with the original concept.
ok
kinda ironic joe gets a memorial in a movie about the thing that killed him
A treasure planet cartoon would have been awesome
I believe Mike Mozart. The people at Pixar truly had no idea. I believe him completely. He knew Joe personally met him for lunch all the
Actually Kovu would have been Kira's First Cousin once removed, they would have only been SECOND cousins if Kovu was Scar's son's or daughter's son
19:28 Drakeen Phoenix! There he is!
... they were going to give timone a love interest? i thought pumba was his partner???
Im sorry, how did you pronounce Joaquin Phoenix's name?
Wow, you're just like Blameitonjorge! 😁
I actually like Home on the Range, and I feel like I'm the only one
Kovu to Simba; Looks like I'm no longer an outsider, like Zira. And I'm especially no longer Scar's chosen heir, like Nuka.
i would like for to make a video of the title i call it
the lost village roadshow pictures and sailor moon movie trilogy distribution media because it would be interestingly cool to have and mentioned sailor moon and like the first anime in your channel with a sailor moon theory that came to me in my mind when i was looking on what other companies that the sailor moon movie trilogy was released overseas on imdb (regardless if you heard or ever seen or ever a fan of sailor moon or not) just wondering or someone else who knows sailor moon movie trilogy and village roadshow pictures can make a theory video of it instead
Of course
So if he stayed as a bear does that mean he ends up.. doing.. you know.. Like if he has a child..
When are u gonna talk about the found media for disney?
It’s obvious that Pumbaa has always been Timon’s love interest. Heck, they’ve been Simba’s dads for years. Try telling me otherwise.
Disney Cause Of Death:
Simba: Murdered By Prue (My 10 Year Old Cat)
Chicken Little: Salmonella Infection
It’s unfortunate that we probably won’t ever see that Toy Story prequel ever as while I could see Pixar very much jumping around the Polio subject it just has such a Gut wrenching but powerful ending that cannot be ignored and is extremely hard to take in also I wish we had gotten treasure planet 2 as the story was so much more expensive introducing two incredible new characters one played by Willem Defoe that could have even rivaled the phantom menace it’s tough looking at the what if’s that never happened and never will happen
Princess and thecl frog and Winnie the pooh 2011 was the last 2d animation film
Bro I seen some of those scenes in the VHS or dvd I don’t own it anymore but I do remember some of the scene like Kiara helpin Zera? Like that was in the film at one point
Damn toy story had a good story