Alvey Fishing Reels | A Non Bias Opinion On The Reels That Revolutionised Surf Casting.
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Alvey Fishing Reels | A Non Bias Opinion On The Reels That Revolutionised Surf Casting.
G'Day friends from far and wide! As the name suggests we get our hands on 2 reels from Alvey that truely are the Kingpins of the surf fishing world. If you are not familiar with Alvey's you should be!
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I was only 16 and worked in a hardware store as a messenger boy in Cairns Qld about 1952. Every afternoon on the way home from work I walked past a tackle shop and in the window was, what I thought was the world’s most beautiful fishing rod with a dark red Bakelite Alvey Reel, the rod was made of wood and varnished, and the fittings were all nickel plated and the rod cost about 8 pounds ($16). My wage was 2 pounds, 9 shillings & sixpence a week but I saved enough to buy the rod. I lived at Gordonvale and I couldn’t wait to use the rod, so I hopped on my bike and rode to the Mulgrave River, baited the line, cast the line into the water, stuck the rod in the sand, turned around to do something, looked back and there was my brand-new rod being pulled out of the sand and disappearing in the murky water. The river was wide and deep, so that was the end of my rod.
However, 6 months later I was fishing downstream from where I lost the rod, and I pulled my line in to check the bait and I pulled another line in with it. I pulled that line in and there was something on the end of the line that I thought was perhaps a small tree branch or something. But it was my rod and reel that I’d lost 6 months earlier. Most of the varnish had come off the rod, but the Alvey Reel was in very good condition despite being in the water for 6 months. No corrosion at all. I just cleaned it up and still used it for years.
This is an outstanding story
Wow...What a testimony, that's one for the ALVEY archives.
Good health to you...thanks for some history, also about a young fella growing up!!!
Best for the New Year.
I'm from the US and have had an Alvey reel for nearly 20 years. I joked with my buddies about it being able to winch me out if I got stuck in the sand. I only wish I had bought the corresponding rod with it. Subscribing to keep up with Aussie surf fishing.
I'm a "yank" and my first quality real was an Alvey...1970...I wish I still had it and my next reel will also be an Alvey...So, from the USA...that's 52 years of fishing for fun and putting food on the table...Alvey is simply the best all-around reel that most just don't understand or know about...!!!
Thats very cool Mate 😊 as a kid i underestimated just how special Alvey reels were. Like a lot of kids i thought the spin reels were much better. As i get older the more i appreciate simplicity, durability, and reliability. Hope you are well mate. Greetings from Queensland
I just discovered a 500/C in my dad's old tackle chest. It is almost mint, the stickers even look new. tiny corrosion spot on one of the knobs, but will polish out in no time... Can't wait to give it a try. He never taught me how to do beach fishing, we only ever fished bass and carp.
Very cool! You will love it
Used to fish cliff in eastern suburbs of Sydney with my 650c5 (still have) and winch kings and salmon up 30metres and more, no problems at all. My maintenance routine was to leave it in a bucket of warm water overnight and she’s done ✅
they are so easy to maintain arnt they. Got to love alveys
Have 4 of them. Everything up to Kingi's is no problem. All 6500 series spooled with IGFA 6kg Mono . Distance is superb using 4 oz and 1/2 a pilly here in NZ. Line twist is minimal if you strip off 20 odd meter's every now and then and let it unwind in waters edge. Works for me. I also end for end it every 6 months!! No bust offs!!
Too right mate. They are terrific
There is no bail to cross hatch the line as it is being retrieved so it must be manually done with your finger so you better have tough fingers to prevent burns. Now try trick that while tackling a fish in.
I’ve been using Alvey reels , and spinner/overhead , reels for 45 years.
Laying the line is down by one’s index finger, and is a simple non painful non cutting activity. Even while fishing maximum drag landing a fish the line lay is done with index finger and is of no issue. The line gets laid as one drops the rod to recover line, when very little pressure is on the line.
Alveys are not the do all to end all, they have their place in mainstream fishing. The improvement of spinner/overhead reel materials has increased the life use of such reels and reduced the relevance of Alveys.
@@glennsmethurst2235 Well said.
USED ALL MY LIFE, only line cut a few times. I like a reel where I do everything, ultimate control. No one wants to learn to do anything anymore, its a hunting skill, you have to learn.
@@lauchlanguddy1004 I am throwing mine away, too much hassle
My Dad taught me to fish on a small Alvey reel when I was a kid. Such a bullet proof bit of equipment for a kid to learn on. I used to get heaps of birds nests on the spool till I got good enough to lay the line down properly with my finger. Great memories. Good to see they have a kayak model available now. I've often thought they'd be great on a yak since the reels get dunked in the water so often. Your comments re small swivels are bang on too. My old man always used small swivels on his Alvey's.
Amazing bits of kit that never die
Unlike you whose clips I’ve just found I’ve been using Alvey reels for 50years. both your clips and Alveys are great! Support this great Aussie company.
Thankyou for the awesome kind words. Alveys are awesome
used them since 1996, have 3 including 2 lever drag and one old girl knuckle duster i paid $20.00 at a garage sale. Had my rods made here in the EBOP NZ. One piece folding guides, superb to fish with. Just use Rolling swivels and 6 kg line.
Great video I hated fishing because I break all my gear every time, now I only break one Alvey every 5 years, and even that I get spare parts to fix it myself, I would never fish without a Alvey
They certainly are terrific
I love my Alvey reel collection too… don’t forget they may be a slow one to one retreive but the diameter of the spool is large compared to a tiny eggbeater spool so the length retreived in one revolution is probably not much different than an eggbeater spinning on 4:1. I also love how smooth and sensatative Alveys feel.
Spot on there
ALVEY = Beauty and Australian fishing history.
Thanks Brenz...for your knowledge concerning smaller swivels relating to line class/20 meters or so of line, when you get home to unwind/rewind. Those little 1%'s make a difference.
Tight lines.
I'll be honest...I felt a little sad when I heard about ALVEY closing there doors.
Cheers mate!
Glad you enjoyed it
A friend had given me an Alvey years ago and for the life if me I can't seem to find it… saw quite a few of them on the “Bay of Evil” … They’re not getting cheaper.. 🤣..
Anyway, ... I would pick an Alvey over a spinning reel any day of the week… although, ... I’m an old-school conventional/ multiplier kind of guy here in the western United States… have always liked the way it works… unlike the spinner... Got my eye on a few of them... 👍😎👌
I bought a used Alvey surf caster 40 years ago. I was laughed at.
I bought a couple when I was in Australia.
I still have them and use them.
Bullet proof.
Not popular in the U.S.
Swivel technology has come a long way.
Use a high quality swivel.
High quality swivel is paramount I think. 40 years later they have had to replace reals often, you didn’t. Alveys are super strong
I have so much love for these reels. I’ll always use them
With such awesome reliability and performance it’s hard not to love them.
Van Staal reels will definitely give you a run for your money in the durability department.
As an owner of van staal I would agree, however as alvey has no moving parts there is nothing really to break.
I'm a Saffer and I had an Alvey as a kid. I loved the thing. It was the AK-47 of reels. I lost it in a burglary and then went on to Penn conventionals.
They are definitely bulletproof
@@On-PointAdventures. Before the burglary, I also owned a wooden Scarborough reel that belonged to my great-grandfather. Those old-timers were legendary, catching big kob and sharks on reels without gears or drag disks.
My green Alvey is the best surf casting reel I ever bought. I use it for stripers in NH.USA.
That's awesome
Hey great video
But I don’t think your being fair or accurate about the retrieving speed of the alvey, well the big ones at least. They have a huge circumference so while itsa 1:1 ratio each turn is like 300mm of line approximately returned.
They’re a great reel for lures and metal spinner etc & I’ve never had an issue with the return speed.
I’d back my 650 to retrieve faster or as fast as any big egg beater I own. An egg beater needs to spin so fast cause of its small spool circumference.
My only issue with alvey is the need for swivels & the two extra knots to tie them on. Plus they have plenty of places that will smash a pippi shell over & over.
me either and i generally used a very small alvey. only used the bigger ones for 15lb+ and for cliff winching. winch 50 to 100 ft on an eggbeater... good luck. one, you wont do it and two will strip gears.
Alvey all day or nothing
Proudly Australian
You bet! Thanks for the support mate
Interesting but I'll stick with my Van Staal. It can take salt and sand and I have a much higher retrieve rate.
1:1 just doesn't get it done for me.
I've had a alvey for 48 years ....zero maintenance. So sad they are closing down
It was sad, but it seems they have found another new lifeline
@@On-PointAdventures really ? Wow, first I've heard of that ... great news !!!
Do you have any more info ?
Great review ,love Alveys I own 6 in different sizes.Also mate love that shirt , what brand is it ,where do you get them? cheers
Thanks for the feedback mate. The shirt is one of our own and should be available shortly online.
I’m from America and want to support Australia.
I grew up in Brisbane from 3 until 9 years old
Moved to the States and still have the best memories from Coolungota in the early 70’s.
My dad owned an original wooden Alvey. Still remember it.
Moving to Oregon coast soon. Plan on getting an Alvey combo
Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Glad you enjoyed it, if you need a hand finding an alvey shoot us a message on Facebook and I can put you in touch directly with alvey.
@@On-PointAdventures
I really wanted a geared left hand 6 “ reel and matching rod.
I live in Oregon
AL V not EL V. Love Alvey reels the biggest problem with then is the last for ever which virtually bankrupted them also they are heavy and which they would take some inspiration from fly reel design.
Doesn’t matter how you say it when in the presence of one of the greatest surf reels ever built 😂
The new line of stealth reels and even the gvcr range are super light, very easy to fish all day with.
@@On-PointAdventures they certainly are the best beach reels
👌
I just bought my 2nd rod and reel and love them. I'm trying to turn more fisherman in the states into using them
Please do Mate 😊😊 strong, simple, reliable,and durable reels. Alvey have closed down a few times but reopened again. The trouble seems to be that they are made so well they never need replacing. Im 50 and the one my dad has when i was little is still going. They are bomb proof. I know a lot of American fishermen would love them and it would really help keep an amazing Aussie company going. They are a little more expensive than a basic spin reel but certainly no more expensive than a high end reel. Best wishes from Queensland Australia Mate
Bought mine in 1974 and still going strong.
They never die
yes about the same
Came here while reading Heritical Fishing 😅
nice reel mate..got mine in Fb marketplace but haven't try yet.🤣
You will love it
Hey there. And its casted how?
Thanks for watching our video. If you browse through a few of our others then you will see that there are a few how too vids on it
Yeah, your typical spinner reels are beautiful to use, smooth, easy to cast etc. but once you get the Alvey down pat your'e laughing and I know this is going to sound cheesy, it feels like real fishing.
Agree
I just ordered my Alvey rod and reel
Hope you enjoy it
Hi there mate from NZ. You have got me interested. If you are not a salesman for Alvey, you could be. I love the maintenance bit. I subscribed on the strength of this very good short video. Thanks.
Gday Martin. No not a salesman for Alvey, but a very strong believer in a product that doesn’t let you down. I am a big believer in credit where credit is due and alvey deserves just that. Thankyou very much for the sub mate really apreciate it
Brendan
Just wondering what your tips are regarding feeding line thru the guides when setting up an alvey on a long 12ft+ low mount rod, without the reel making contact with the sand, ground or rocks.
I usually rest the butt on the bullbar of the car
@@On-PointAdventures Yeah I'd probably do that too if I had one. Been using my backpack or Alvey bag to rest the butt on. I guess everyone has the same issue.
I use pvc pipe as rod holder on the beach. Rest the rod butt on the end of the pipe when feeding your line through.
"how you maintain your alvy once you get home" *dunks in bucket of water*
Then there's me with my curado dc meticulously wiping it down with a damp cloth after every saltwater trip.....
I’m the same when I take my old Trinidad dc out 😂😂
Hi ,do know were i can get a few spool wraps suit 6500,s. ??
Unfortunately not no
I do have one alvey😊
Bullet proof for sure
I am so sorry I sold my first Alvey years ago in a moment of weakness. I just bought another just for the nostalgic value, after the shock of hearing that Alvey are no more. Luckily, I still have my big Butterwort reel. Anyone remember the Butterwoth reels?
Alvey are still in business.
Hi mate are them gary howard rods low or mid mount
Gday Andrew, all low mount
I am American and I just bought one. ;)
You will love it for sure
@@On-PointAdventures, a bit of a learning curve...lost a mackerel while I was struggling laying the line and reeling and missed a hookset on something big...I think I got it down now! I was working an artificial shrimp.
Brilliant Mate 👌😎
Thanks Jay. Appreciate the feedback.
I have become a convert to Alveys for surf bait fishing in recent years. I have found that swivels do not take a great deal of the line twist out when using a Paternoster rig which is the normal surf rig in southern states.
To combat line twist I have made my own "spin doctor" that rotates in the opposite direction to the commercially made one so as it unwinds the Alvey line twist. At the end of the day unclip your rig clip in the "spin doctor" a few casts and retrieves and the twist is removed. Once the Spin doctor can be held at the end of about 3 metres of line from the rod tip and it no longer rotates from the line twist you know the job is done. Here is a video of how the commercial "spin doctor" works on a spin reel so you can see how it works.
ruclips.net/video/xPSZMsAmdtM/видео.html
Great info mate
Hey - so why did you cut the bomb sinker (presumably) in the opposite direction for use with the alvey reel ? I'm about to build a homemade copy of the spindoctor and now wonder which way i should angle the cut .... I've also read on the alvey site that line twist occurs when too large a swivel is used for the rig - or when a heavy running ball/bean style sinker sits hard up against the swivel, hence blocking/locking the swivel up whilst retrieving. Clipping a star sinker onto the end of the lines on a paternoster rig is recommended. or you can use another swivel & short dropper attached to your sinker, and thread the swivel's loop onto the mainline above your inline swivel - hence creating a running sinker that won't press up against the inline swivel.
@@snappermuppet Yes a 3 ounce bomb sinker was the starting point, I use it with 8KG+ lines. I cut the sinker in the opposite direction to the commercial spindoctor because when casting with an Alvey the line comes off the spool in the opposite direction to a spin reel hence puts the twist in the line in the opposite direction. Once you have made the spindoctor I suggest you paint it a bright colour as it makes it much easier to see when casting against a cloudy sky and grey ocean. The paternoster rig has two dropper loops and usually has a 4-6oz Star or 3-5oz grapnel sinker at the bottom attached with a snap swivel. I have tried various combinations of swivels to attach the rig to the mainline and it hasn't made much difference to the line twist.
@@no_triggerwarning9953 Cool - thanks for the tip - i'll cut and paint mine up as youve recommended - cheers. yeah same rig as i run, but I'm trying out ball bearing snap swivels next so hopefully that helps ...
@no_trigger warning Cool - thanks for the tip - ill cut it and paint mine up as youve recommended - cheers. yeah same rig as i run, but I'm trying out ball bearing snap swivels next so hopefully that helps ...
ps - is your reel setup for a right or left hand ?
you can fish while you scuba dive with this reel
Pretty much haha
The equivalent of the AK47 in the fishing world!
Indeed
better
What's an Elvey??
An Alvey is a fairly iconic australian built side cast reel
I don't think you what your talking about use alveys before my abu 9000 can out cast any alvey reel on the market also if you use good line like toutre super control you don't need a swivel.
Thanks for the info but regardless of the line, twist will occur on an alvey.
Totally the bifenthrin of reels
They are old fashion shit
@@leecassidy9424 old fashioned for sure, shit? Questionable as they are completely indestructible. We can appreciate they are certainly not every one’s cup of tea, however. They will still catch as many fish and outlast many reels with out any question at all.
Personally I much prefer my long cast penn reels for surf fishing these days.
Alvey reels are junk
Fair enough. Cheers for the comment
My granddad has 1 and he has had it for as long as I can remember. Still going strong as the first day he got it.
Hopefully it lasts for another lifetime with yourself benn